Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Animal Facts with Kendall Long & Bachelorette(s) Recap

Episode Date: July 28, 2022

We have plenty of content for your earholes today, Vinos, from a lukewarm Bachelorette(s) recap to Kaitlyn conquering her fear of pigeons (maybe…) with Kendall Long and Lo! First, KB is catching up with her producers about this week’s episode of The Bachelorette, revealing what part of the episode made her cry and what she thinks of the two leading ladies so far. Then, the always fascinating Kendall Long joins Kaitlyn and Lo to give us all the animal facts we never knew we needed (including which animals are evil and which get down and dirty) and to share all the behind-the-scenes of her new (and always interesting) relationship. Plus, the three discuss their favorite throwback movies, which animals are their true soul animals, and dive into the drama that was last year’s Bachelor in Paradise. The three wrap with a game of “how do you proceed?” and “fact or crap”. Bachelor Nation, this one’s for you. Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: CARAWAY - Visit Carawayhome.com/VINE to take advantage of this limited-time offer for 10% off your next purchase. PROGRESSIVE - Quote at Progressive.com to join the over 27 million drivers who trust Progressive. APARTMENTS.COM - The place to find a place. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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All right. Welcome to Grape Therapy. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, and your session is starting right now. And I'm a woman of the people and I know my people and I know what the people want. So I think it would be a disservice to the vinos if I didn't give you just a little quick 10 minute thought process on this week's episode of The Bachelorette. But since I recorded with Kendall when I was in LA, my producers and I thought we would do a little recap before we get into my interview with her. And this week's episode was weird. Am I right? you're right felt like a parody of the bachelor act yeah like I get it you're trying to switch things up and like you've been doing the same format for so many years and that format has worked and people are getting bored but this wasn't even in my opinion this wasn't even good TV it was just weird and like I didn't feel it was too much to be feeling any connections and the ones that did have connections I was like I feel like we didn't even get to see like that date I feel like it was just like Hey, I'm, I like feel like a bit of a mess. Okay. Sorry. I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm getting ahead of myself. Getting a little excited.

I get just, though, I'm just thinking of that date with Gabby and Eric because he was like about to open up and he was like, yeah, I'm like, I don't remember what he said, but she was like, okay, I need a minute. And then she went and had like a little moment where she was like, I'm not feeling worthy of this position. Well, no shit you're not because they make you feel that way. because they're putting you against another person who's the complete opposite of you and you're like, am I like worthy of this? Is she? Are we both? Why are we doing this? So then she came back

and she was trying to explain her feelings to him and he was like, yeah, I understand. And then she just like jumped on his lap and then that was the end of their date. And I was like, wait, what? We definitely missed something there though. Yeah. I feel like her portion of that episode was edited for her insecurities and like that date that's what they edited it for so i feel like we missed him saying something to her that like prompted that conversation like there's a tic-tok where you could see like from a different camera angle his mouth was moving like while she was talking and so it was like they made it look like he just said absolutely nothing but then you can see his lips moving from a different angle so it's like it's getting really sketchy that's so shitty like it literally is making

a story of her being insecure. And like, that's not what you should portray a woman as. Like, she's the Bachelorette. Like, this should be like a boss-ass woman empowerment time. And they're just like, let's just focus on her insecurities here. Yeah, because it's okay to have both like, the two things can exist. She can feel like a boss sometimes and she can feel insecure at times. We don't need to only focus on her being insecure. And then it was like they wanted to take turns. Like, okay, we'll make Gabby really insecure at the beginning. And then she'll have her moment. And then Rachel will feel really insecure at the end and we'll just go back and forth like that. And I even felt even on the first one-on-one date with Rachel and Zach, like it was all so cute. I actually cried during

it. I thought it was like so sweet and special. But same thing with he was like trying to open up about he was talking about his mom and then he wanted to open up about his dad. And as soon as he said one thing, it was like, I'm, we used to do that too. And then the date was over. And then I was like, wait, what? Like everything just felt very abrupt and cut off and like no context and like too short. And I feel like they were showing the wrong things, like, things that I didn't really care to see. So, like, when, like, the queer eye guy, I'm going to butcher his name. Caramo. Thank you. Paramo, yeah. When he was on and they were doing the little, like, outfit part, I'm like, I don't care to see all these outfits. Like, I want to see them talking. And I always say this every single

season. I'm like, and, you know, maybe I say this every season, but I've just not seen the connections yet and then you do by the end. But I'm still, I feel like they're being taken away because of we're spending too much time on the fact that there's two bacheloretts. And it's just hard to decipher who is there for who because then they're sending Gabby in when Rachel's on her date and like, ooh, who goes for her? Like, they're just trying to make it messier than it has to be almost. I don't know.

But then it's not messy enough. And the guys are like, ooh, I want to respect the situation. And then it's like feelings get hurt. And let me just also say that if I was hosting this season, I'd have much different opinions because I would be like, I would be like, well, you know what? This is how this season's going. And it's great. And we're just, it would be a whole other season because I would be hosting. But like I just, I'm, I can't stand up for it this season. I can't. When I was watching that big group date and like Gabby kind of like went missing obviously because she was hurt and like the guys were saying that they weren't interested in her and we're saying some super. rude and shit. Yeah. Yeah. I kept thinking to myself, like, this right here is why the show needs a woman. The Bachelorette specifically needs a woman to host because, like, Gabby's not going to go to Rachel and tell her about this during the date because she's going to

ruin her time. Like, she's going to, like, she wants Rachel to have a good time. So she's not going to run up to Rachel and be like, Hayden told me I'm rough around the edges because that's just going to ruin her night. So, like, she needed somebody to go to. And, like, Jesse was this non-existent. Like, he just, like, wasn't there. He's not involved. I feel like they're taking turns, like, narrating the episode themselves. And there's just not a host other than, like, Karamo. Right. Yeah. I felt the same way. But I, and then I'm sure there's going to be all these Reddit articles of, like, Caitlin needs to get over it. And, like, she's not the host and she thinks that, but I'm, I'm not even saying me necessarily. Like, I just think, I like the idea of a woman

hosting The Bachelorette and a man to host The Bachelor. But at the same time, I totally understand wanting a consistent host across the board. So it's like so hard because they gave us a taste of what women hosting would look like and then took it away. So then we were like opening up to that idea and seeing the value of it. And then it's gone. So now we're really seeing how much it lacks that kind of, I don't know, compassion from a woman to a woman. But I don't know. It's just the whole thing just didn't even feel like I like sometimes I can watch reality TV and be like I get it.

It's good TV. This didn't even feel like good TV to me. It felt sad. It felt like they were doing exactly what they said they're not going to do and pit them against each other. And the fact that they like sat in the same room and had to like have the guys deny them and then have Jesse take away a rose and like just come and be like, I'm just going to take that right here. And I'm just going to take that right away from you. It was like, I don't know. I was sad. Yeah, that was super weird. I read somewhere. I don't know if this is like super factual. But like when I was just sifting around that Rachel started. out with more roses than Gabby. Like, what's weird is, like, so, like, did they plan for that to happen? Like, did they know how this is going to play out? And then it ended, and each... So, Rachel had eight and Gabby had nine. And then there's, like, the lingering meatball situation.

So, like, did they plan for it to be, like, nine and nine and, like, for that drama to occur? Like, how... I don't get it. I'm so confused. Wait, how many guys did you have when it was week three? Oh, God. I don't remember. I feel like they really got their short on the sick.

Like they don't have any guys left. Yeah, they're completely split it in half. It's true. They're completely split it. And like, I mean, it would be almost be better if the two women didn't like each other because then it would be like, oh, this is a good TV. But they're friends and they like, that just makes it sad to me because they're protecting each other, which is so lovely to see.

But they're like, well, what if she likes? him are like, okay, well, you know what? They already have a connection, so I'm not going to go for that. And it's just like, I don't know. I'm so sick of watching these two women compete for the same guys when they already did that. This is supposed to be their chance to be the Bachelorette and for them to have their power and feel desired. And I don't know. And I'm sure people said things to Rachel that we just didn't see. They just wanted Gabby to have her moment of insecurities. And the whole thing I was just last week was Rachel's. Rachel was secure last week so exactly it's like that's how it's going to be every week someone's insecure i i don't know i'll tell you who has all the confidence in the world and that's grandpa john i want i love that guy he's literally just like yeah what are we doing this is there any tricks here i'll give me a beer like yeah grandpa john for senior bachelor like i'm like literally wait is he married no no remember on the date yeah wait but i thought gabby said oh so did she pass or something? Because Gabby said they were married forever. Okay. Oh, then 100%. I wonder if that's what

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these guys have spent so much more time with each other than they have with The Bachelorette. And they actually form friendships. And I remember being scared each rose ceremony that Becca Tilley was going to get sent home. She kept being like, I think I'm going to go home. I think he's going to send me home. And I'd be like, I can't lose you.

Like we were so close in the house that I feel like that friendship was really like so strong. I think what happens when you're not. prepared you're all just sitting around you think you're just like having a chill guy's day like you do every other day and you if somebody you know is going to walk in it's probably jesse to tell you news or to prep you for something so then when gabby walks in they're all like oh snap and then they're like we're just having a bro day and we haven't like been set up for this so usually we've been there's been structure to the show like okay we know we wake up at this hour we get miced at this hour somebody comes in at this hour then we have a date at this hour then we go to the rose

ceremony and then there's a cocktail party and when somebody just shocks you like that they're like oh shit a producer hasn't told me what's going on or how to act do we steal her do we just like vibe with each other and they're all just like friends at this point so i don't know i i get why it gets weird at that point but also it's the shittiest feeling when you're like um i should walk into a room and feel desired by these men i'm apparently dating and you don't that's a terrible feeling. I wish we could have Gabby or Rachel. No, Gabby, because she was there, just call her up as like a call a friend and know what happened, but her contract won't allow that. Just call her right now and we'll deal with it later. Yeah. Yeah. We'll figure out the logistics. We'll just beep out like everything she says. We'll just hear one side of the conversation. Yeah. Well, we only see one side from editing. So it's only fair. We get another side. I have to say Alicia and I like tried to do some field reporting. Yeah. Because. Because I, do you know what Mavericks is in San Diego? Why do I know that?

Because it's like where Katie Thurston and John had like their couple's debut. Like it's like a place in Pacific Beach where like a bunch of people from the show party. And I live kind of close to it and they do Bachelor Watch parties every Monday. So we went and we were going to try to like. Yeah, she was visiting me. Oh my gosh. tell me everything so we went together and we were like planning on maybe trying to like interview people during the commercial breaks but we got high and then we did not talk to anyone like we didn't

even talk to each other you just sat there like high like what is it high as uh taradacro's tits oh you never heard that no don't think that's a common phrase. Wait, I'm Googling this. Higher than teradactal kits. I swear that's a thing. I think you made that up. You made that up.

Should we add it to the Off the Vine dictionary? Wait, I'm literally going to... Okay, I'm messaging my friend. Hey, Brew. Just want to... I'm doing a podcast right now, and I just said that somebody was higher than teradactal tits. is that a thing? I feel like you said that once. Can you confirm or deny? Okay, we'll see what he says. Okay, so you're both really high and didn't even talk to each other so you didn't get the job done. You're both fired. We're both fired. She's very unprofessional. I know. We thought it would be fun to like go up to tables and be like, so what did you think of like this that happened? But we're like, maybe we could still do that. You should. Because you could be like, hey, I'm Caitlin's producers for off the

fine. Yeah. Give us your hot take. And then you could like pull me up on a FaceTime or something. And I could be like, it, they're, they're not legit. They're not weird. Yeah. Yeah. They're not weird. I know they're weird. But no, no, you're like, they're like, they're weird. But they are. And that makes sense. So right. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about doing it. Like, so I have watch parties in Wisconsin. They're like not as fancy. Like they're like Hillbilly, like dive bar watch parties. That's. better. It's so great. And then Madison has like this like super nice one. So I'm like you could report live from San Diego. I report live from Wisconsin. And then we get like compare the people's opinions from across the country. This is good. I like that you guys are always brainstorming. We're always on. So creative. Even if you don't come through, you're thinking about it and you're trying. Yeah. Or A for effort, except for we just get high and sit there. But like if I'm going to go back to Mavericks. Like, I can't go alone. Like, maybe there's, um, some Vinoes who live in San Diego, who want to go to Mavericks and watch. Because I can't just go sit there by myself. It's too

awkward. That is such a good idea. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now follow through. Are you going to follow through? Okay. They can DM off the vine. D-M off the vine. If you're in San Diego, uh, and want to go to a watch party and interview people. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. Great. And I highly doubt anybody is in Madison, Wisconsin, but if you are. I hope so. I love people from there. I really do. I feel like they're like fellow, fellow like prairie people, like Alberta, where I'm from,

I feel like people in Wisconsin are similar to that. I don't know why. I'm just like Laura Ingalls Wilder, like little house on the prairie over here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was me. That was me. Wait, I have a voice note back from Alex about high as taradactyl tips.

Oh, hey, Brew. Oh, you've got me thinking now. I don't think I'd ever said that, no, but I swear I've heard it. And I would have guessed that you said it. So no. I know I've heard something like higher than the giraffe balls or something. Like, I know there's an animal one that you can compare you to. But terragalactyl teeth, I don't think that's me.

So I don't really get it. Where did that come from? I swear, okay. That's really funny. Is it from a movie? I don't know, but it's on a Reddit thread. Oh. Hey.

Somebody tweeted it. I was higher than teradactal tits last night and said extra crust instead of extra cheese on my pizza. Higher than gas prices right now. Oh, that's good. Higher than a giraffe's pussy. I hate that word. Higher than a cat's back. Higher than the interest rate on your student loans.

Higher than a hippie and a hot air balloon. I think taradactal tits is funny. Because those are high up in the sky. You know what I mean? Kind of. I don't know. Okay, did anything else? Oh, my, the cocktail party.

was canceled. Shocker. It's always like that. Okay. There's always at least three cocktail parties that are canceled. We said this at the beginning. Like, where are they going to go from here? Because now they're going to be separate. And then do we think meatballs is going to get a second chance? Yes. He does. He's in the preview. Oh. Does he or doesn't he? And then they show the preview for next week and meatballs like running down a field. Yeah. Wow. They really left us on a cliffhanger there. Apparently me. I didn't even see that. Oh, I didn't watch the preview for next week. week. That's why. Pino. Pino has this toy here. Look at it. I always watch Pino because I don't want him chewing up and swallowing the rubber. So I'm like, if he's ever playing

with it, I always make sure. And he always just rips it up and then spits out the little pieces. But then Raman goes and eats those little pieces of rubber. And I all of a sudden was hearing him chewing like something that sounded like rubber. And he's like swallowing it. And now I'm freaked out because he's probably going to put. My dog ate Alicia's bra while she was here. Oh, shit. I feel I do need to send you a new bra. Remind me about that. Yeah, I fully. I was my only bra. It's the only bra I own. Now I just go brawless. Like, no bras. Welcome to my world. I never wear a bra. Ever. I hate bras. I do too. But I also don't want to be like saggy tit McGee when I'm in my 70s. She wasn't going to wear a bra when we were going

out to dinner and we quickly discovered that that was not a good idea. So, why, what was the open. She just across the room. And she walks in and it's like full ariola. Like I'm like, I cross the room. I can see your nipples. And I'm going to meet my family. I was meeting her family for the first time.

And I'm like, is this appropriate? And she's like, definitely not. Like I can literally see your ariolos from across the room. Ariolas. It's such a classy way to say nip. Well, I'm very curious to see what is going to happen next week because I don't like it. They're having to just compete again and I hate it. Yeah.

I think they're doing a great job with it. Let me actually end with that. Yeah. Given the circumstances and how much I hate it and I'm not happy about any of it, I will say they are handling it as best as they possibly could. I love them both for this position and I don't know if I could have done it that whole season. Do you think, and I'm asking this for a reason, do you think that Hayden looks like Grocery Store Joe? 100,000 percent.

Like Paul Rudd and Grocery Store Joe had a child. Yes, but like, but Grocery Store Joe's jeans were just a little stronger. A little stronger. Yeah. Because grocery store Joe's ex, Kendall, is now the episode. What transition? Ladies and gentlemen, Madison. Hey.

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I'm not really a big breakfast eater. What's with you, L.A. people, not eating breakfast. I think because I like to work out first before, because I don't, I don't feel like it's, like, heavy in my stomach. You don't want to be doing a freaking burpee while you have a waffle in your belly. I was just going to say, what about a little protein waffle before you go. That's what I do. some people are like that I just I feel like I have more energy when I don't eat really yeah it's like it gives me like a little bit of like foraging mentality of like I

must find food so I'm just like more perky and I'm more aware of situations and your body starts to eat itself eat fat and see it's great yeah it kills one stone you know no you guys I'm like eat all day every day a lot because it speeds up your metabolism that's my way I think there's like I like to shock my body into different ways of eating so I You used to do intermittent fasting. I used to not eat meat. And now I, like, occasionally have meat. And I'll try to have breakfast.

Yeah. And plus, Mitch is, like, a big breakfast eater. So, I like that bonding time. Like, having breakfast together is sweet. I'm like a coffee talk person. Like, in the morning, I like to have my coffee. And then, but Mitch doesn't drink coffee. So we're kind of just like, mhm, m'n.

Oh, missing each other on the morning routines there. If you know that your partner, like, if you don't have to work out, are you then down to have breakfast? Because if I'll throw it down for a breakfast, if I know I'm not going to, like, work out that morning. Yeah. I think it's just gotten to a point where I'm not really hungry in the mornings. I don't really eat until, like, two. It's probably not good. It's probably not good.

I just don't think about it. I know. Holy shit. I'm on, like, my fourth meal, by two. I feel like I should switch it up a little bit more. I just don't think about it because I'm, like, doing things. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I have to do that. Oh, my.

Two o'clock. I know. What do you do for workouts? I just joined a gym right by a couple blocks from where I live but normally I would do just hit workouts but now I'm really liking doing like the little elliptical

the stair stepper I love the stair stepper I didn't even know that was I mean I knew it was a workout but I didn't think it was a big workout I'm like that's such a lazy workout and then I started doing it and I was like this is really hard

it's so hard the stair climber gets me every time like that to me is like one of the if I have to go do the stair climber I'm like dreading it because I'm like that's gonna kill me I would rather like I'm into lifting weights and I would rather like go for an hour and lift heavy weights

than go 20 minutes on the stair climber and get it over with. Yeah, I try to do it early because then I get it over with and then my like the chill out is the weights. Yeah. You know, so I actually get the hard stuff out of the way. Well, not to make it about a physical appearance, but you look great. Thank you. Not just body talk.

Like you just look glowing and happy and sweet and you always do. But how are you feeling today in a movie title? Ooh, I love that question. Oh. How are you feeling today? Can I answer to? Please. Oh, I love this.

I'm trying to think of movie. I'm so bad with movie titles. Life is beautiful. Oh, I love that one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Sweet. Yeah.

That's what I feel right now in this moment. Life is beautiful. Oh, that's sweet. Great movie. Okay, then I won't say mine. Oh, no. Mine's like, the perfect storm. Storm's a Bruin.

Yeah, stars of ruin. Perfect storm. I think of up. It's like up. Positive. Happy. You know, uplifted. Shit, I am dark and twisty today. Well, I, fine. No, I'm, I'm not the perfect storm. I am actually in a great mood being here today. You're feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I feel like what it, I'm interested in this in general because you, to me, are a very fascinating human being. Like, I always, you, yes. It's, you're just like, you're so like an old soul, but you're also like, I feel like you know a lot about a lot. a broad but shallow pool of knowledge I like that

yeah I like that though but you're just so fascinating and I want to know what kind of movies you like in general some of my favorite movies I really like movies from the 70s

I knew it only because they're like cheesy and like they take themselves so seriously but it's just not scary maybe it was scary then but like 70s version of time machine

where they had you know the weird suits on where they're trying to have these monsters or Godzilla like I used to do monster movie nights with my dad And we've watched all the Godzilla movies. See, I knew this was a good question.

I knew you're going to have a good answer for that. And then Harold and Mod. What's that? It's like this. It's an awesome movie where it has to do with like this older woman that's about to turn 80. And then this younger gentleman that's like 21 or something. And then they end up having a relationship. What?

And it's like in the 70s. It's very like hippie. And he's like really depressed and she loves life. And they inspire each other out. Oh, like not a romantic relationship. Oh, it is romantic. They get down in that movie. Not, uh.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's really good. It's a good movie. You'll laugh. Okay. What was that Barbara Walters movie from the 70s?

I love Barbara Walter. Barbara Walters. What the fuck? I was like, she was in a movie in the 70s. Oh, my God. Barstri-Sand. Yeah. The movie, she's in a park.

Barefoot in the park. Is that the name of it? I don't know. I haven't seen that. Oh, it's so sweet. Barefoot in the park. Babs. Oh, I just love it.

Barefoot. Does she dance barefoot in the park? Sure does. I think there has to be a scene like that. That sounds so freeing. Also, it was Jane Fonda. It was Jane Fonda. Okay.

Thank you so much. How could you confuse Barba Streisand with Jane Fonda? Babs did a movie, too. That was like very similar vibes. But I don't know. Barefoot in the park is great. I don't see it. I love all those movies in that time, too.

It's great. Okay. Well, I'm inspired. I am. I'm not just saying that. Do you know who Caitlin Riley is? I feel like, I'm a very, like, face person. Like, if I see them, I'll know.

I'm really bad at its names. I'm going to show you because, Lo, I also think this is going to be a new follow for you. She's... Oh, my God. I know exactly who she is. It's more TikTok. I watch all her videos. He's so funny.

I feel like you would... It's just a really good follow. You would love herself. But we were talking, and your name came up, actually, because we were talking about slugs. One of the guys in their bios, they said his fear, like, he hates slugs. And she goes, and then we're like, well, who doesn't like slugs? And I bet, I said, I bet Kendall Long likes slugs. I was just telling my friend the other day that my favorite insect currently are slugs and snails.

Stop. Wow. Because I was researching them and they're just, they're just cute. They shoot little love dart arrows that's like mucus at each other. And they have sex like trapeze sex off of slime. Wow. They're so cool. It's kind of like trapeze sex where they'll take this little mucous line and they'll like suspend a

of air and like have sex and then we I love that and I love that you're doing this on your Instagram what made you get have you obviously you've always been into like facts about well you collected taxidermy yeah so I mean I collect taxidermy because I study zoology botany entomology in the side so yeah primarily I like living animals but primarily you love a carcass I do I also do love a good carcass she does she does but But, yeah, so I just, I've always been curious about animals, research them all the time. I feel like my friends were just tired of me saying animal facts.

So I decided to tell TikTok. Take it to the gram. Oh, on TikTok. Yeah. Oh, TikTok must love you. It's actually so cool. There's an amazing community in, like, the science animal world that I've met through TikTok. Really?

Yeah. They're just, everyone's just so supportive. They're like, hey, you're doing great stuff. I'm like, you're doing great stuff. And so we follow each other and we, like, collaborate. It's really cool. It's nice. Yeah.

I like that. I always find it fascinating. And I'm not going to lie, when I see people post videos that are longer than, like, a certain amount of time, I usually scroll. But on yours, I'm like, I would like to learn something today. I would do a 58 minute, candle long. If you're two hours, 58 minutes, sign me up on slugs. That's on slugs alone. There's a lot to say about slugs, so that could be possible. And I like that you'll sometimes have, like, visuals. Like, you'll do, like, I like visuals, too. I would like to know if you knew this, I learned this through Kendall. dolphins are evil they are so evil did you know that i don't trust a dolphin i don't i didn't i didn't either but i didn't know it was a fact they are mean well they're just they're aggressive they're aggressive and they like sex so i mean i feel like they're they do really crazy intense things to get that yeah yeah dolphins aren't they the only other mammal on the

planet that have sex for pleasure bonobo chimps do um and there's another animal that they know of that enjoys sex. I'm trying, I'll remember it in a bit. But yeah, there are a couple. It's hard to measure. Yeah. How do you measure that? Because certain animals they could only have sex during certain times of the year, whereas animals that can have sex

year-round are usually the ones that can kind of have pleasure with it. Interesting. Do you just love listening to it? I do. Yeah. And I don't trust dolphins either. You shouldn't. No, they have been known to hump humans and kayaks. I wonder why. Well, do they eat meat? Like, will they eat a human?

I know. Not that I know of. But they'll rush you up. Octopus. They like, like, when they eat octopus, they tear them limb from limb and just like throw them in the air. Gosh. I am. And then they go and hump humans. Yeah. They also like masturbate with coral. What?

Interesting. Masterbate with coral. They are sexual animals. It just sounds really like coral's really rough. There's a little perverts of the ocean. Yeah, that sounds like it hurts. Yeah. That sounds like it hurts, but maybe they had to separately. Dolphins had a little pervies of the ocean. Yeah, and they like the pain. What is your kindred soul animal? Ooh. I have thought about this. Well, I have two answers. So the first one is I've always just like felt my soul was aligned with a fruit bat. They're like flying puppies and they eat

grapes. If you look at like baby fruit bat eating grapes, they are so adorable. Baby fruit bat eating grapes. Their eyes are so huge and I just feel like they're like hanging out upside down. they have nipples on their armpits. What? Oh my God. Not that I had nipples on my armpits. Literally a video of Kendall at home eating a grape right now. Oh, that is cute.

Yeah. I eat grapes. I eat grapes just like that. That is sweet. Wait, that is really cute. At first I was like, ew, no, it's just a bat. But no, it really, once I saw it eating a grape. See, that's the thing that I like, oh, ew, that's weird.

Yeah. Which I can relate to with like the whole taxidermy thing. But I'm like, if you look deeper into it, it's actually really cool. There's a beauty in it. There is a beauty in it. And it's fascinating, just like you. You little fruit bat. What is your soul animal?

Do you know what it is? I thought you know what it is. You 100% your picture is literally my sole animal because it's the animal I love the movie. It is my picture is? Yeah, I'll show you. You don't know your password. I don't. Oh, my God.

There she is. Oh, yeah, duh, an orca whale. Oh, orcas are. I love orca whales. I'm obsessed. Yeah, you are. I forgot. I love, love orcas. And so, yeah, I just, they're the number one predator in the ocean, right? Yeah. Are you talking about killer whales? Yes. Okay. Yeah, because they are, I actually just listened to. I'm like, I just researched killer whales, but we don't have to go into a whole killer whale rant, but those I love killer whales. Yeah, I'm a big fan. Yeah, I love them. I think they're beautiful and intelligent. And they're in little pods. Each group of killer whales actually has their own distinct, like, clicks and sounds they make, different communication. Really? And so then when you put.

orcas together that aren't from the similar family groups, they can't communicate. Oh, that makes me want to cry. I know. That is precious as hell. It is. They're really great. They're beautiful. Now I want to change my soul animal.

Oh, go ahead. I mean, what was your original one? I'm not a golden retriever. Golden retrievers are lovely. They're the best. I'm obsessed with them. Okay, well, wait, what would you guys say I am? Hmm.

I would say either a peacock. a proud peacock beautiful feathers so like so insecure at times oh i know but that's okay peacocks can be insecure but i still like puff my feathers like i'm not flaunt it yeah you know show off your stuff yeah i flaunt my insecurities i really do look at my feathers yeah i would say that or i'm trying to think what other animal ooh you know what i would say um like a a black is it a jaguar a jaguar yeah is that i'm thinking of a car or panther A black panther. Oh, a black panther.

Some sort of a feline. Ooh, panthers are so, like, such solid, like, they're, like, on their own. They're loners. I feel like you're very social. No, no. No, that's why I think of her as, like, a black panther. Oh, I see. Okay.

I can be social easily. And they could be cuddly, but they could also kill you. Yeah, that's me. Yeah. It's so funny. Like, whenever we were talking about animals, I'm like, I can say a fact about that. You really do have a fact about everything. Well, it's a bad fact.

Like, when they kill, prey they usually go for the head first and they crush crush like skulls wait who's this now black canthers oh they like crush the skulls scratch your soul you aim for the skull but want the soul yeah yeah oh that's i could i could do facts about animals all day with you that's cool really could but let's stop talking about it no no i don't want you i literally like what's your fun fact what's your fun fact today what were you like recently researching that you want Well, yesterday was National Pigeon Day. I'm sure you know.

Pigeons, man. Okay. I can go on a huge tangent about pigeons, but they're actually one of my favorite birds. No! Yes. Rats with wings. Okay, everyone says that, but they used to send messages between Allied forces and, like, World War I and World War II. And there was a pigeon named Cher me that saved, like, 159 soldier lives.

Okay, shit. I like that pigeon. Yeah. Share really did a number and helped people. Also, yeah, right? Also, could have caused a war. It's true. Pigeons are evil.

Pigeons, I'm trying to think. They're intelligent? They're so intelligent. They're one of the only animals that can pass a self-recognition test. What? No way. And they can see better than humans and they're used to save shipwreck survivors because they can spot because their eyes are better and they can see ultraviolet light. They can spot like people's life vests quicker than humans can, like two times faster.

Wow. This is so interesting. That, yeah, actually. Okay. maybe I'll change my tune on pigeons, but I still don't want to be around them. Yeah. I mean, they're a product of our environment, you know, and that they've adapted really well. I think any animal that adapts to humans, we tend to not like.

Yeah. You know, like rats and mice, we're like, ew, crows, pigeons, you know, except for squirrels. They have a good rep. Yeah, but squirrels are literally rats with bushy tails. I don't trust the squirrels. I hate squirrels. It's just because they've learned to live with us, as opposed to be pushed away from us. So we're kind of like, you're in my space.

when in reality, we took their space, you know, and we're like... Oh, my God, that was profound. Oh, my God. That's like the mother willetry from Gokohannis. Not our land. I love it. Right? Damn, we're assholes.

We are. No, but I understand because we see other things that could potentially harbor disease as threats. And so it's like a natural inclination to, like, want to distance yourself from them. But there actually a lot. I actually, there's this one guy named Drew Lobenstein. Yeah. And he was a pigeon breeder. And I actually went to his, like, backyard pigeon, like,

breeding facility. Come on. He like, he had like over like 200 different breeds. I loved it. That is my personal health. Okay, there's like 700 different breeds of pigeon.

What? Yeah. I had no idea. Oh, okay, there's like Tumblr pigeons. There's like a pigeon fancier is someone that raises pigeons. Yeah, Tumblr pigeons were like the lady from home alone too. They're like tumble and they used to like have competitions to see how far they can like tumble. And they have pigeons that have feathers like Queen Victoria.

Oh, you're a hundred. percent a pigeon. Shit. Yeah. See, what you once hated, now you embody it. Identify with. Everything she's saying. I'm like, that's Caitlin Bristow.

If I've ever heard one, they're intelligent. Maybe this switches my fear of birds. Maybe this is the podcast that changes my fear. Oh, my God. What if we were to blindfold you, hog tie you, and put you in a cage with a bunch of pigeons? I would never speak to you again. That sounds like cruelty. They would probably just hang out and be like curious about you.

Yeah. But pigeons are really sweet. They tried to do that to me on my date, on the Bachelorette. They put me in an escape room, and I had to walk through my room of pigeons first, and I refused. I started shaking in a corner and started crying, and they had to take the pigeons out. What started your fear of pigeons? Yeah. Where did it start?

Or birds in general. My mom, she was afraid of birds. And she, my uncle would know that she was afraid of birds. So he would let out a bird. I think my grandma had a bird or something. And he would let it out when we were over and my mom would scream and pull me and my sister into a bathroom. and like oh so you associated it with danger yeah makes sense my sister's terrified of birds too that's like the tardics uh jason he the needles his mom yeah their whole family no needles

they freak out with any needles but i'm like why but he's like my whole family it's like it's almost like that's our family crest like we we wear that fear's honor yeah i'm like what's my family fear i don't know yeah yeah i'm like do you have a fear of any animal i think the you understand things, the less you fear them. Fear is just the unknown. You don't know what's going to happen. You don't know how to predict a brain that's unlike your own in like so many different ways. Yeah. So I wouldn't be afraid of animals, but like I would respect them enough to not tempt them to fight me. I know what to do in certain animal attacks. I don't want to switch gears, but I'm going to because only because I'm so excited to know about your new love

interest. You guys are so cute. Thank you. I was so happy for you. I was so happy for you. you when I saw you say you had found someone, not because you needed someone, not because you had been through everything you've been through it. Because I was like, I just, I feel like you just, you're already so confident in who you are as a person. And I feel like you're, you're the kind of person I look at where I go, that's a woman who knows what she wants and is confident in who she is. And she's ready for like love to celebrate in her life. And I felt that for you. Thank you. Yeah. I felt like I was in a place where I knew myself really well. And that's when you attract somebody.

Yeah. So, but yeah, Mitchell sagely. It's a great name too. It's a great name, right? It feels calming. Yeah. Yeah, like sage. Yeah, like sage.

Yeah. It cleanses all the evils. Yeah. He seems just lovely. How long have you two been together? We have been officially together since Valentine's Day. Cute. But our first date was a day after Christmas.

Okay. Boxing Day. That's in Canada. Boxing Day. Why is it called Boxing Day? Do they unbox things? Okay. I thought it was...

Fighters. I think it's for fighters. Mike Tyson, Oscar de La Jolla. No! Very aggressive culture in Canada. I heard it. I'm like, why is it boxing day? So I thought...

I had no idea. I thought it was because you put all your decorations away. You box it all up and put all your Christmas stuff away the next day. Oh, who does it the day after? That's like overly ambitious. But it sounds like a week fully until I cleaned it up. You know how Canada has like adopted many things from the Brits? Yes.

So Boxing Day in Great Britain and some Commonwealth countries, particularly Australia, Canada and New Zealand, is December 26 on which servants trades people and the poor traditionally were presented with gifts. Oh. That's the day for poor people. They don't have actual Christmas. So we have our day and then we're like, we should probably do something for them. I don't know if I like that. See, I heard it, and I was like, that's so nice of us. That's a Canadian thing to do to just get, go-givist. So, like, you have your own separate holiday.

Open your clearance box. It's Boxing Day, poor Peter. You're like, yes, I didn't want. You couldn't have, that's awful. I'm not celebrating that anymore. How would you celebrate? I don't know. There's, like, Boxing Day sales.

Oh, oh, that's even worse. Now you guys can afford it like that, you know? Oh, shit. But, I mean, it's kind of like, I don't know. know. We have days like that, I'm sure, here. Columbus Day. Columbus is worth celebrating that asshole. Columbus Day. That's true. You know what I mean? Yeah. He was the worst. We're all like, ooh, it's a Columbus sale. We'll take the sale, though, you know. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Well, I always Every country has them. Yeah, but back to Mitch. Do you call him Mitch or Mitchell? Back to Sage.

Mitch. Mitch. I was trying to sound fancy saying his full. What initially attracted you to him? Like, how did you do you mean? How did you do you mean? first of all. I feel like I know this, but I might not. So we met through a mutual friend. Yeah. One of his volleyball friends. And it was at, you know, some party and like a shindig before we went out to bars. And we, he's just extremely intelligent. Yeah. So I was initially attracted to him because he's like, I'm an aerospace engineer. And I was like, that is so sexy. Yeah. You're like hot. And then we proceeded to talk about aliens and space. Yeah. And I was he, what I really liked about him from the get go was that I would have these random. facts, as I often do, but he would have facts to come back and he would expand the conversation as opposed to being like, that's cool. That's awesome, which is fine. Right. But he actually in a lifelong partner, when you're looking for the future. Yeah. And someone brings that to the

table. He's taught me new things. Wow. And you probably taught him new things. Exactly. Yeah. He teaches me about space. I teach him about animals. It's great. I would love to hear your conversations. They're very interesting. Yeah. We have. Whenever we go on road trips, he will, last road trip he went on, he found a podcast and was like, we're going to listen to this podcast. It was like a two hour long podcast. The road trip was like six hours. And he's like, I want to have a conversation like based off this podcast. And then we'd pause it and we didn't even finish it by the time we got to our destination, which was like three times as long as the podcast was. He can, that guy can talk. Wow. And you are, I feel like you're a sponge with knowledge. Like if he's giving you facts, your brain is like, absorb absorb absorb oh he's definitely shifted my perspective on so many different things i find it very refreshing oh cool nice like on like on what kind of stuff like stuff to do with space um just i guess like things that i believe in or things that i thought were just like true just because you just assume things are true yeah he's like well why is that

true like why do you believe that i'm like i have i just i don't know like i just thought i should I don't know, you know what I mean? Like, we see so much, so many things come up in media. And, like, even today, I sent him this article about how, oh, there's this one Google, he doesn't work for Google anymore. But there's this one Google worker that says AI technology has feelings. And I sent it to him like, this is cool. Ha ha. This will impress him. And he's like, actually, that guy was fired from Google because he made that statement. And also, like, they say that, like, that wasn't based in fact. He, like, goes deeper. And I was like, oh, dang it. I thought, all these little fun little tidbits that I, you know, you see on, like, surface level. He, like, he actually dies deep, yeah. I should have him on the podcast, but he's private on Instagram. Does he like being private? Is he more of a private guy?

Yeah, he's more private. I mean, he thinks it's entertaining and funny, you know, with people following and stuff. But I don't know. He just doesn't really care about it. Did he watch The Bachelor? No. I can't, yeah, okay. I'm like, maybe he wants to.

Really? He jokes all the time. He's like, we should watch it together. And I was like, we should not. We should not watch. I kind of love that he hasn't. And he's not into social media. Yeah, that's nice.

Were you like, I'm going to swear off Bachelor guys after everything? I had an aversion towards dating someone from The Bachelor. Not that I would like never say never. Yeah. But I guess I wasn't seeking that out. Right. Yeah. And then there was I.

Then, you know, to sweep sand right in there. Whoops. And there was I. But that's, yeah, I saw obviously so many people probably tried to creep him after you announced. to like this relationship. It's kind of like, it's nice that I can like celebrate him like privately and our relationship privately because it can be very intimating with a lot of different opinions and people wanting to kind of, I don't know, DM or comment things.

And it's. Judge, offer their opinion. Oh, exactly. Yeah. And it's been so much easier than I thought it would be. I think I pumped it up and I thought it was going to be so scary. But it ended up being fine. Yeah.

So that's sweet. I went on a few dates. someone who wasn't on social media. I know. And I was like, you're a serial killer. Yeah. I'm like, is that a red flag? It was to me.

Yeah. What are you trying to hide? It's like a life resume social media. Yeah, it is a life resume. Yeah. And so he ended up saying, he's like, I, he was into it for a bit. And then he just stopped. He's like, it wasn't good for my mental health.

And so he showed me the reasoning. And he's like, I have a Facebook. He's like, I barely used it. I've had it since I was in high school. And so once I got to know him, I was like, oh, okay. And he was actually very present. He was great. Oh, I bet.

Yeah. I met that. Oh, no, yeah. Yeah. He was. Like, I bet he was. Because he wouldn't busy himself with, you know, just scrolling through random happenings. I get trapped in that sometimes.

Oh, we all do. Yeah. And I do think if you aren't doing that on a daily basis, you're probably finding ways to stay present or doing things that make you in the moment instead of scrolling. So then when you're having a conversation, he's probably very present. Yeah, he was. Observing the outside, like actually observing things on a walk. Yeah. Yes. I try to do that. Be more deliberate about that when I go on walks and like, look at the things around you, not the screen in front of you.

I've actually started leaving my phone at home when I take my dogs on walks. I love that. That's actually a really good practice. Oh, just be careful. There's a lot of killers out there. Oh, gosh. You're right, though. That's true. Maybe just have like, I don't know, like I'll get you the, what's like a life alert or something? That's actually a good idea. For an emergency. I just. Flayers, you know, life out. Yeah. That's fair. A little queen going out. Okay. Well, now that actually. That's a good point.

I'm going to bring my... Well, you know what? Back to scrolling on my walk. Are they really long walks? Well, I try to walk three miles. Oh, that's awesome. That's great. But my neighborhood's quite safe.

So it took me a while to watch The Bachelorette after I came off of it. They kind of did you dirty on Paradise. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think you'll watch this season of Paradise? Or are you like, I kind of got to be done? I just don't really have... There's just other things that I'm interested in.

Yeah. viewing. But yeah, I think the last season I was on left me with like a bitter taste in my mouth. No, and I didn't watch it. Oh, you didn't? No, but I heard about it. Yeah. I heard a lot about it. I'm sure you heard about it. And I prefer not to watch it because then I have something to be mad about like, this wasn't blah, blah, blah, you know how that goes. So I just preferred not to put energy into it. Yeah. And it's worked really well for me. That's great. I was pissed off for you just because I could see the manipulation or the like you got a do this and people you know view that show not having that lens to look through yeah and so i just wanted to like stand up for you and i appreciate that you know like it's just so i don't know what happened but i'm like well basically they just because you know how her and joe used to be together

yeah and they put you guys both went on to the beach knowing that you're going to be there right yeah i i heard that he was like waiting for me to show up yeah like i know this is going to happen eventually yeah right and then he had met somebody else and you were very sure about it. I would have been a basket case. But then the producers would like make her walk down like they were doing a proposal and

the producers like made her walk down and like talk to him. And so then all the viewers are like, why would she do that? And you're like, I actually didn't have a choice. Right. Why just didn't know? Yeah. Yeah, they told you to go do it not knowing of course you didn't know. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a couple. It was like

not very soon before I walked down there. Like by the way, there's platform down there. And I was like, oh, geez. Yeah. I'm already dressed and ready. Yeah. And yeah, it was unfortunate. But the way I see it is as long as it doesn't affect their relationship in any way. Yeah. And, you know, then I don't think it's that big of a deal. But I thought what was nice is seeing the respect between all of you. Like, no matter what that situation may have looked like, you could still tell those were three mature people dealing with an awkward situation. And that Joe had so much respect for you and you had so much respect for him and the situation like i took away a lot of

positives from watching and i wanted him to fall in love with somebody like when you end a relationship with someone you don't want to wish ill will on them you want them to be happy and to move on we didn't end in any sort of awful way right our our lifestyles just didn't fit together and that's okay it happens totally um and so i wanted him to be happy with somebody yeah knowing that we didn't make sense again very mature i'd be like i hope you are miserable. But we had also been broken up for like over a year. Yeah. So in my mind, I was just like kind of made my piece with it. I dated multiple people after that. That's like seeing an old friend at that point. Yeah. And we were friends. If you didn't watch, do you ever read the Reddit articles or

go into those deep dives? I avoid Reddit. Good. Like the plague. Yeah. Same. Unless somebody screenshot and sent it to me and I'm like, why would you send me that? That is awful. Like, Yeah. Oh, specifically about the Bachelor, Bachelorette, you. Yeah. Oh. Like, they are nasty. It gets really mean.

I think in the beginning, like, before I even knew what Reddit was, I saw some things on it and I was like, nope. Like, you turn. Yes. Yes. Okay. I've got a little game for you. Ooh, I love games. Okay.

Well, I've got two. I'm trying to decide which one I want to do. I'm going to do a couple from both. Okay. That sounds good. Okay. How do you proceed? Here we go.

Early into the date that you're on, your date asks you, are you on your period? Because I have a strange talent where I can smell when a girl's on her period. How do you proceed? Oh, my God. Oh, I would say guess. Oh. And if they were right, I'd be very impressed. Yeah.

That's true. I'd be like, sensing a mom's a little pigeon. I'd be curious to it was an actual. talent. I mean, it makes sense because you release hormones when you have your period that, you know. That attracts men. That attracts men. So if I was like feeling extra you know, if he said, I would hope that he would say I was.

Yeah. Just because then I'd be like, well, I seem very attractive today. It'd be a compliment, you know? Yeah. You're just a little extra froggy. Where did I just hear that? People say, oh, you feeling froggy today? I've heard that too. I just heard it like the other day. Oh, my girl, cat. My girlfriend cat. And I was like, what does that mean? And she's like, I don't really know. There's a whole meme sensation with like a sad.

frog. But frog also, it sounds like, you know, kind of like mischievous. I think I thought it was like frisky. I feel a little froggy. Okay. They bring their mom with them to dinner. How do you proceed? Is this the first date?

Yeah. I would just go with it. Yeah. And have dinner with that person and their mom. But if they didn't tell me ahead of time. Yeah. You just walk in. The mom's there with them.

I would have fun with it. But I, you know, date two, depending on how I connected with the mom. Because I really connect with moms. There you go. My best. I bet. They're great. I could see that.

You're at a restaurant and he keeps vaping into your face and asks if you were impressed by the large clouds. How do you proceed? I would say no. And I'd say date over. Probably leave. I, you know, I'm not really a big fan of obvious vaping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, in your face, like, spatial awareness.

Yeah. I don't really understand that. I couldn't believe it. Last night at dinner, I was like, oh, you just pull that out at the table. It doesn't smell bad. It makes me think that I'm smelling their breath. Oh. You know, I'm like, I'm smelling a mixture of chemicals that smell like grape and your breath.

Yeah. I don't want to know where your breath goes. Oh, I didn't think about it. Now that's even worse. Okay. Fact or crap? Here we go. Okay.

Low. Read a couple of off for us. Okay. Factor crap. Peanuts are not nuts. Aren't they legumes? Yes. She's right.

Oh, wow. Okay. Next one. An octopus has five hearts. They have three hearts. Seaharts. That's fucking out. Yeah.

Wow. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Next one is the severed head of a sea slug can grow a whole new body. A sea slug. Um, I don't know if sea slugs can. A lot of ocean animals can. So I'm going to say yes.

You're right. Okay. That is right back. Goose bumps are an allergic reaction to fear. My glasses are not. Oh, I'll read the next one. Yeah. I don't know if you can have an allergic reaction to, I'm going to say no.

You're right. I thought goosebumps were to keep your body warm with, like, the little hair that we have. That's what I thought. Like, insulation. Here it says they're meant to ward off predators. Are we talking to animals or humans? Like, an animal's going to be like, oh, no, goosebumps. Like, run.

They look bigger. I don't know. Camels have three sets of eyelashes. They have two sets of eyelashes. Do they have three? Oh, no. maybe they do have had two or three dang it two there's three it's three dang it you know you know deep down you know oh my gosh that that is actually so impressive because i'm not going to

lie sometimes i was like maybe she's just doing a bit on instagram like you like look up but you really know facts about all of these like i don't know how it feels odd because i i don't remember like whenever there's something mentioned about an animal yeah all of a sudden it's just like someone in my brain has like a filing cabinet and it's like oh there's a fact about that and i'm like oh yes It's not like I always have a constant knowledge of it. That's wild. I wish I had my brain goes like, do to do, let's do a fart joke. Be pop boop, beep boop, beep boop, peepoop.

But there's certain things I'm sure you have some sort of, you know. Wine. Yeah, wine. Knowledge of wine is very important. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like pink wine.

Pink wine is delicious. But you can, like, throw out so many facts about wine, I'm sure. What's a fun fact about? Rose. Hit it, K.B. It was the first wine created. Did you know that? Rose A was interesting. You didn't know it? I would have thought red wines. No. Same. Seven thousand B.C.

What? Is that what Jesus drinking rosé? That's actually really, that's a good question. Water into wine, it was, but it was a rosé. Wow. I always pictured red wine. Of course. Same. That's what I would have thought. But I knew this fact, so. Interesting. Who knew of that? There you go. Learning something new. Rose, you probably knew.

Elon Gail was on obviously around when you. Did he ever tell you horse facts? Did you guys ever talk horse facts? The first time I met Alon, we were talking about he ate pigeon brains somewhere. Yes, he did. Japan. Yeah. He traveled to Japan to eat pigeon brain. Well, Squab is the eating term for pigeon.

Squab tastes really good. It's like a delicacy over there. Oh, you had it. No, I haven't. I've heard from it. People say, oh, Swab, it's like a really good. meat. I do want to eat Squab, though. I would eat it. I've eaten a lot of weird things. Yeah. What's the weirdest thing you did? Yeah, what's the weirdest thing? When I was in Japan, I had

chicken heart, like little tiny chicken heart skewers at Yakutori. Oh, wow. And then I had wasp alcohol, which is like this alcohol that was very, very strong. There was like dead wasps in it. What? We didn't drink the wasp. It was just alcohol, but it was said, well, each district in Japan has like their own alcohol that does certain things. So this is some sort of sexual like really makes you great in the sack. Uh-uh. I did it. I'm always great in the sack.

Yeah. Yes. That answer. I'm done. That was the best response. I just like you a lot. It's like when they asked Lauren Conrad, what's your favorite position? What'd you say?

And some misogynistic podcaster said that and she said my favorite position. is CEO. Oh, I love that. Yes. Yes. That's good. That was one of those answers. That was one of those answers. My favorite. I was at first, I was like, CEO. I was like trying to make it like a like, is that like a cartwheel position? Yeah. I was over your head. I was like, okay, what would the C stand for? Caitlin, you idiot. Oh my gosh. Okay. So what's next? What do you and Mitch talk about engagement? Do you guys, I feel like you do. Yeah. Didn't you say somewhere that you. You said, didn't you say somewhere that you. felt like this is the guy that you're going to marry. It's so great. Yes. I mean, yeah, we're pretty much, like, for me, I told myself that the next person that I would seriously date would be someone that I'm going that direction with. And yeah, we talk about babies moving in, all that stuff. Yeah. It's exciting. I bet you didn't think it was going to happen so fast. I really didn't. Yeah. No, I was in a place where, you know, it was after the show had been filming, airing, I think.

And it was just kind of like emotionally a jumble. And so when I met him, it just felt, I just felt like I was excited to move forward. Yeah. He's just a very solid human. And so I felt safe with him. I felt like very sure. Yeah. And that's never happened to me before.

That's so good. Nice feeling. My mom's like, when you meet the right person, you just go together and you just move forward and you just want to do all the things. And I would always think in my head, well, I don't think I'm that kind of person. And, like, I overthink. I freak out in relationships. I'm always kind of looking for a little bit of an exit.

And Mitch is the first person where I was like, oh, hell yes. You know? Oh, that's so nice. And obviously he feels the same way about you. I feel like he's probably like, well, I've never met anyone like her because I feel like you two compliment from what you've told me and how I know you two compliment the shit out of each other. Yeah. And such a, I never thought I'd have someone as much of a kindred spirit. Yeah.

You know, like the same form of curiosity. and he just challenges me all the time. And he respectfully tells me I'm wrong all the time. And he's right sometimes. Not all the time. But it's cool. It's very refreshing and I'm excited about it. Yeah, I'm excited for you.

Tell people where they can find you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All the social media things. All my social media things are, it's Kendall Long. And definitely follow your TikTok, right? That's where you do all of the... TikTok's where I put all my videos.

I occasionally put them on Instagram. I'm trying to be better. about putting more on there. Yeah. If they have that minute limit. I know. Oh, they just changed it. They did.

It's now 90 seconds. Oh. That actually makes me, I'm actually excited about that. Because then I have to like cut my babies, you know. Yeah. Like the things you, like this little fact. I'm like, but that fact is so cool. Yeah.

So. Yeah. Okay. Well, everyone go follow. Because it is really. I freaking love it. I really do. Thank you.

I really do. It's just so I, like I, like I usually am like, now, no. That I'm like, what am I going to learn today? Yeah. There's lots of random knowledge. Yes, it's great. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now in dance.

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