Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Annaliese Puccini

Episode Date: September 27, 2018

This week Kaitlyn and her trusty partner in crime Clio De La Llave sit down with Annaliese Puccini to talk about her time on Paradise, what happened with Kamil after the show, and not only find out about her dream man but interrogate a candidate live over the phone. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Okay, let's talk about the original enemies to lovers story. Before all of our reality TV couples, before the rom-coms, we binge, there was Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy in pride and prejudice. And Audible has just dropped a brand new original that will have you completely hooked, I am. It's not just any audiobook. This is a full cast performance. So Marisa Abella, you might know her from industry, brings Elizabeth Bennett to life.

And Harris Dickinson from Baby Girl and Where the Crawdads sing is Mr. Darcy. And honestly, the chemistry, you guys, it's everything. Plus, you've got icons like Glenn Close, Bill Nye and Will Polter in the mix. Talk about a dream cast. Now, what I love is how Marissa pulls you right into Lizzie's world, her stubbornness, her wit, her messy family dynamics, and of course, her complicated feelings for Darcy. And with a vibrant new adaptation and original score by Grammy-nominated composer, it just feels so fresh and modern while still keeping that timeless Jane Austen charm.

So whether it's your first time experiencing Pride and Prejudice or you've read it a million times, you're going to fall absolutely in love all over again. So go listen to Pride and Prejudice now at audible.ca slash Jane Austen. We're on with OTV. Podcast One presents Off the Vine, Grace Therapy. Caitlin Bristow's going to answer your questions. Drink to your confessions and hear what you have to say about anything Bachelor. Let's shake it up some more. Here's Caitlin.

Okay, welcome to Grape Therapy. I am your host. Caitlin Bristow, your session is now starting. Joining me in the studio today, we have Annalise. Okay, from Bachelor in Paradise, Bachelor. Let me just apologize for when you first were on Ari's season, and I kept calling you like Annaliae, say, or like, I couldn't, like, pronounce it. Oh, yeah, Cleo's in the studio, too.

Say hi, say hi, hi. Hi. I couldn't pronounce. I don't know why I couldn't get your name. Well, you got it now. Yeah, I got it now. I think I tweeted you. I was like, I don't know what I was saying, but I was like, Anna Leia said, but why were they made, are you actually scared of everything like they made you seem like you were on the bat?

No. Okay, I was like, this is funny, like, TV, but like, because they were making you look like you were scared of everything. How did they do this? I had a huge dog just around us right two seconds ago. That was fine. Oh, wait. Did they say you're scared of dogs? Yeah. I don't even remember.

So it was dogs and it was bumper cars. Those were the two things. The dog thing, I had a, I had a dog bite when I was like. a year and a half. I had 19 stitches, almost lost my eye. So that was like a legit thing, but I love animals so much. I mean, like, my, what I wanted to be when I grew up was a singing veterinarian. Like, I loved animals that much. I like, a singing veterinarian? Yeah, because I thought like when I was young that I could heal animals with the song. Wow, that is the most pure thing I've ever heard in my life. So, yeah, so I mean, obviously I had an experience.

Yeah. Yes, but I still love animals so much. So they, so they just really played off of the like fear. So when, was there a dog around you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, we have a dog show. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's so funny. So then they were like, tell us about your fears of dogs. But you know, like the bachelor, they definitely, you're like, okay, what is, this could be the scariest thing. I, I sort of envisioned us working with police attack dogs and, like, being in a full-blown suit and, like, having, you know, huge German shepherds, like, hunt us down. Yeah. So that was kind of, that's like a little bit of a scary. Yeah, of course. Right? No, that makes so much sense. Yeah. So that's what they were like, what, what could this date be? And I'm like, oh, God, it could be that. Oh, I get it. So then they

ask, like, what your fear would be. And then they meant, ah, I see what they did. And then why are you afraid of bumper cars? Uh, I already forget. Like, this is how much, like, yeah, I mean, it was forever ago. Or it feels like it. Anyways, I mean, honestly, I don't really know. It was one of those things, like, again, I think under all the pressure and the anxiety of, like, being there, all of a sudden, I just had this, like, flashback of, like, oh, my God, why do I hate this so much? I still don't really know what it was. Like, I think I might have been at a birthday party. I think it was more of like a bullying thing. There was like a couple girls that used to pick on me. Yeah. And I feel like it was, they were picking on me for some reason. And that was

like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the bumper car was. And it was just like, that makes sense. It triggered you. It triggered me. Totally triggered me. But then also you didn't see like the safety guy coming out saying, hey, guess what? Like, you know, if your car catches fire, make sure you stay in your car until we can like stop all of the cars to get you at. And then your reaction's like, oh, I'm scared. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's so funny. I said, I was talking to a one of the producers, like, a couple days ago. And I said, do you think I could just come hang out for, like, a week of filming, like, behind the scenes and, like, actual behind the scenes, like, what you guys talk about in your meetings? And, like, I always remember being like, where are the producers going?

They're like, we have to have a quick team meeting. And they, like, go into these secret rooms and have these big meetings. And I'd be like, man, to be a fly on the wall of one of those meetings of what they talk about. I think the same thing. Like the scheming. I would just like to know. But anyways, so then, so you were on the back. bachelor on Ari's season. Are you friends with any of the girls still from that season?

Yeah. I mean, especially like being on Paradise, then like those friendships continued. But yeah, there's a couple. Like Kendall, I stayed pretty close with. I got close with Crystal on Paradise. They were just here. Crystal and Chris were podcasting. Yeah, they are so sweet. They are. She is. She is. Like she was just coming in hot and she was just dropping F bombs. And I was like, wait, where's the sweet voice? Because you know how everyone talks about her, like, the crystal voice? And I think it's her nervous voice, like, when she's, like, a little bit nervous or shy or something? I think it's nervous or when she's flirting.

Like, I feel like she doesn't more around, like, if you even watch this season back, there's times that she does it with Chris. And I feel like it's just, it's like her flirting mechanism, but also probably nerves. Do you have a funny voice? No, I don't think so. What, a flirty voice? Oh, do you want to know my flirty voice? Do it. Hey.

This is my. is my flirt boy. Is it doing anything for you guys? Oh yes. Yeah. Yeah. Jeff? Very tinglingly. Jeff. Is that doing anything for you in the studio? Oh yeah. Zero to six real quick. Yeah. Six? Midnight. I was like, wait a second. Six to midnight. I don't know what the saying is. We're talking about boners. I got uncomfortable. Sorry about that. No, that was my terrible flirt. But that was my like sex phone voice. Yeah. That's what I would sound like if I did. like a sex phone, whatever they are, operator, a sex phone operator. Okay, I just feel like we should write off the bat confess.

I just want to go there. Let's do it. I just, I'm trying to think, Claire, do I have any confessions that have happened in the last? You think, because I always have a hard time remember. I always said I'm so used to all of your antics. Yeah, you're like, that's just so classic. I don't think that's confessing. You tell me your Israelis.

Tell me your confession. Shoot, I didn't think of a confession. Oh, did I not tell you to think of a confession? That's what I did. You might have. I was too worried about the other one. Let's see. What kind of confessions do you guys confess in this show?

They go anywhere from like Garrett and Becca. We're just on the podcast. We aired that one today. He talked about how he like completely shit his pants in his truck. And every time he like... Okay, well, I'm not telling any of those tons of stories. Oh, that's usually where most people go. Like, he, like, put his...

He was switching, like, to clutch and, like, switched gears. and every time he, like, pressed on the clutch his, like, butt cheeks released a little bit and, like... What? Yeah, it's actually really funny. It was a really funny. I'm going to have to listen into that. And also, Vanessa Grimaldi confessed that she was on the toilet

and, like, she must have got up too quick, and a little tiny piece of poop dropped in her underwear, but then she wiped, and then the whole day she was smelling poop for the rest of the day. So there's that. Feel free to avoid the poop route. You don't have to go that way. I was going in a very different direction already in my head. Oh, you can.

You can go any direction. There's been sex stories. There's been poop stories. There's been your pants stories. There's been you got caught doing something when you were little, like anything that you think you need to. A really embarrassing story that you want to share. My confession was what I thought that we had one hole. Yeah, Cleo thought that we had as women.

You know how we have two holes? Yeah. Cleo did not know we had two holes. and she thought you peed out of the same hole that you have sex in. Oh. That was bad. Oh, did you see on a lease? She was like, oh.

I get it. Yeah. Okay, so I guess mine, I'll just tell like a drunk college story. Perfect. So my front, one of my front teeth is fake. Oh. Because I got very drunk and I slipped at the bar. And somehow, I don't know what happened, but either the bottle that I was holding or the bar, like somehow I collided with the bar.

chipped my tooth in half, woke up the next morning, and I, like, lived in a suite with other girls, and nobody was there. And I just remember it was, like, a movie moment. I looked in the mirror and just screamed. But then, like, all my nerves were exposed, and I was throwing up. It was the most painful of my entire life. Most painful? And then it just, like, became the most problematic tooth ever. Like, I would go to Mexican, and I'd have, like, a chip, and my tooth would fall out. Or, so I remember actually getting on a flight, because I lived in New York at the time, getting on a flight with no front tooth, like keeping my mouth totally closed the whole time because I didn't trust any of the dentist that I had been to back east. I was like, I got to go to my dentist because it kept falling out. And so I went back to my dentist and the two started turning black.

So I had to have it like internally bleached. I mean, it was just like years of a drunk mistake. Of one drunken night. We all have one drunk mistake. we've paid for it for a long time but that one sucks yeah oh my gosh that makes me sick like tooth pain makes me like it was the I mean it's still I still don't have a I need a good dentist and I need a good porcelain because I don't for you okay he was on my season and I still have the temporary he does my teeth oh really yeah I did like you know you never know what you don't

like about yourself until you see yourself on TV and people were like always commenting commenting on my teeth and I was like oh I thought they're kind of unique which they were they were very unique um but i was like oh i just want them to all be like like even on the bottom bless you cleo um like even along the bottom like one was like really pokey down and the front two were like really big and one was bigger than the other they were like if you google katelyl bristow's teeth do yourself a favor it's quite funny um we have beautiful tea well thank you cupcake because because cupcake was like let me because i was like i want veneers and he was like no you don't like that's going to change your whole face you have a very unique smile you don't

don't want to do that. And he talked me out of it, which I'm so glad he did. And he just like evened out a couple of my jibs for me. Nice. He nailed it. Yeah. He did a really good job. So he's in L.A. Yeah, it looks super natural. It looks like your, your teeth. They're beautiful. Well, I mean, they pretty much are. He just added a little cap or something. I don't know. They look great. But anyways, if you need a good dentist. Good to know. Cupcake. He should be a sponsor on my podcast. Give me paid. Um, okay, obviously we have to talk about what happened on paradise um first of all who's the best kisser camille oh damn so we need to say someone else i was i will say kenny was like close that he was a real good kiss really yeah he seems like such a

nice guy yeah very passionate kisser are you still friends with him um like i'm kind of i'm like friendly with yeah because it might be all weird yeah um okay so you're on paradise camille comes in you guys fell in love pretty quickly um is that Is something you do? Do you fall in love really quickly? Yeah, I do. I know that about myself. And that's like something that going in, I was like this. That's a beautiful thing as well, though. It really is. Yeah. I think the thing for me is like I see the best in people. And so, and I, it's easy for me to see how my life could be with somebody. Yeah. Because I think I'm a very like. You like adapt to. I'm a very adaptable person. Yeah. And I'm an only child. So I've always sort of been like I really, I crave like a big family and like I crave that. So I think, yeah. It was love at first sight. I mean, I think for both of us, though, like, yeah, of course.

It seemed mutual. And then how long was it that you guys were actually together? Like, take, like, I know we see a certain amount of time, but how long were you actually there with him? So I have not actually thought of the timeline, but I think it was like day six that he showed up. So it was actually very quick that he was there. Oh. So a lot happened in just those first six days. And then, and when, and I think that's the thing, too.

People are like, oh, you fell in love with Jordan, you fell on love. Kenny, I didn't, right? I was, like, hopeful for, like, a future with them. But I think they're great guys. But when Camille showed up, it was, like, a very different thing. And, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, am I making you uncomfortable?

Don't get uncomfortable. I'm just like, I know what's coming. Well, of course, I know. I'm like, and feel free to just tell me to shut the hell up. No, no, it's right. But, okay, so all this happens, and you go into this, the fantasy. sweets and then obviously you guys were on the same page where you're like hopeful you like want to get married at some point in your life he was saying it's too soon you completely agreed you guys

had a nice little moment and then you go out into the real world and you where do you live again san francisco i keep getting san diego and san francisco mix up and he lives in new york and so you were doing the long distance and back and forth and traveling and talking and facetiming and doing the whole thing yep and everything was good up and Yeah. So I went out to New York a couple weeks after we wrapped filming. And I met his family, I met his friends. Like everything went really well. And but we just had a lot going on that trip. Like I was in a wedding. He had to fly back out for Mentel All. There was just like a lot going on. And I think it was, I think it was that trip that kind of like something felt a little bit different.

And then we sort of went through a little bit of a rough patch after that. Yeah. And then. Yeah. And then. And then. things like got better there was a couple times that I was like listen like you need to step it up you're not doing enough I was trying to plan I was like okay like come out to San Francisco or let's meet in the middle or something and I felt like he always he sort of had like an excuse or something you know and and then I think it was like two weeks before filming the reunion I was like okay like I can't do this anymore yeah he was like I don't want to lose you I'm gonna I'm gonna step it up and he did and then like things got so much better oh and our conversation it's just

there was like a different all of a sudden different level like I was like you just don't act like you care yeah all of a sudden he he was caring you know I actually felt like I was in a relationship again I was like okay here we go this is what I was talking about yeah and then so like so then right before coming out for the reunion um we started to make plans for that week and so I think we were both just really I think we both just needed that week to sort of see if we could have legs. And, like, if the relationship could actually work. And I think that was sort of the downfall of the reunion is that we were in, like, a little bit of, we were good. Yeah.

We weren't bad. We weren't great. Yeah. We were just kind of in this, like, blah place. Yeah. So it just gets very. Well, I'm just so confused. So for, I mean, everybody that's listening, I'm sure they know.

But so then he goes on this show with Chris Harrison. you and you guys are sitting on the couch and he are you getting hot from talking about this thank gosh for the wine we're going to talk through this we're going to talk through this we're going to drink the wine and we're going to we're going to get closure here or at least the listeners are um but okay so then he ends it on tv like you had no idea it was coming no idea so they didn't air this but at the at the reunion i said to him um well i had said to him two days prior. It said, please just don't blindside me. Like, don't break up with me on TV. Are you kidding me? And he did that? And he said, I swear in my mother's life, I would never do that to you.

What in the hell happened? Like, why would he do that? How could somebody convince him to do that? And why wouldn't he just have this conversation with you? Like, I don't understand. What was he thinking? Like, he knew the backlash you would get, too. Like, he knew that people would not like that. He saw the whole 60-40 thing went. Yeah. I don't. I just don't have words. I have no idea. I don't know what.

You didn't have words then and you don't know because I'm like, who isn't mind-blown by that? I'm just still, I mean, I think, honestly, I think he's confused by it still too. Like, I don't think he still says to me, like, I didn't want to break up with you. But I'm like, but you did. Right. It didn't happen. Yeah.

And if you didn't want to, why did you? And especially in that setting. Yeah. In that situation. He still doesn't have an answer? No. Are you guys still talking? Not really.

Yeah. So after the reunion, we saw each other that night at like a sort of like group dinner. I really didn't want to go. Oh my gosh. Torture. I was literally in my hotel just bawling my eyes out. And I had a handler there with me. And I was like, I don't want to go.

I don't want to go. I was looking at flights to go back that night. And then some of the girls were like, you need to go out. You need to show him like he couldn't get you down. And so I'm like, okay, fine. So I didn't even wash my face. Good for you. girl.

I was like, Tia's words. I'm like, yes, bitch. Yeah, exactly. So then I went out with everyone, set out the opposite side of the table, didn't say anything to him,

and then towards the end of dinner, he pulled me to go and talk. I felt like I was totally like, oh, that's like, can I steal you for a second? That's funny. I was like, oh. So we only chatted and I was like, okay,

I don't, I just don't hate you, but I don't know, I still don't know what to say. And then the next day, I went to another event and he was there again. We had a little bit too much to drink that night, so it was not a very productive conversation at all. Oh, no.

And while all of this was going on, two of my best girlfriends from home changed their work schedule, booked flights, booked a hotel. God, friends are the best. I know. They flew down Thursday morning, and I had planned to go and talk with him. So he and I went and talked, and we talked for like an hour. It was probably like one of the best conversations we've ever had.

Oh, good. And then I was like, hey, Pete. P.S. Two of my best friends are here. They want to talk to you. Shut up. Please tell me you had a camera crew there. We did not. But it was, yeah, he went and he talked to my friends, like, willingly.

And they were like, we really, we wanted to hate him, but we, like, we sort of are not really sure how we feel about him. Right. So it was a very weird, like, and then after that, like, he and I were sort of talking. I think I was still in shock, though. Like, the moral of that story is, like, I don't think I had really actually really. realized what had happened. Yeah. And then I sort of, it sort of got comfortable and I'm like, I'm getting very confused because we're not in a relationship, but we're having like long conversations and you're

being like everything I ever wanted you to be, but you're, right. But you're not my guy. Yeah. So I told him I just needed a little bit of space. And then I don't know, he still, I'm like, I just can't do this anymore. But he's still like he texted me right before coming in. And so I don't know. I don't know.

I would love for us to be friends one day, but I just don't, right now it's too difficult for me. I mean, like, I think. And he knows that, that you know, that you know that way. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Guys, you know, they just can't accept that you're like, once you're in the power and you're like, no, this is what I want. And like, if you're going to be this, then like, I don't want that.

But if you can be this and, like, show up and be consistent. Right. And I think I was also just, I mean, rewatching everything last week was so heartbreaking. And, I mean, I just, I think for me, like, actually was, it was like going through the breakup for the first time. I think I was in such a cloud that. Yeah, you're in shock. I was in such shock. I think a lot of people were in shock and you seemed in shock.

And I think I just, I think because of how things went after that, I really just felt like, oh, we're going to get back together. And it's like, fine. Then once I saw actually happen again and how his actions were afterwards, I was like, this is a hard no for. me right now. Yeah, of course. I want to know if you have anything to say to all the girls out there who are like letting these guys just like walk all, not that you walked all over you, but like, you know, that treat you like not like a freaking queen. I mean, I think it's so hard when you're in love, you know, and I, so I feel for, I feel for you if you're going through that because it's like something we've all done it. I've done it multiple times. And I think once you're out

of it and you realize what you do deserve and when you have somebody that's giving you what you actually deserve. That's when you get the closure. That's when you, yeah. I know. And so it, sometimes it takes a long time to get closure from those types of relationships. And I don't feel like I have closure with him yet. And I don't know when I will have that.

When you find the love of your life. Yeah, exactly. And so it's a hard thing to go through. It's also, it's very difficult because I did love him. And I mean, I still care about him as a person and I do have love for him. And so seeing people attack him on social media. and my friends hate him it's very difficult to to stand by somebody and to support somebody or stick up for them when you are seeing what they did too and you like know how bad it was

and and his actions afterwards and so it's it's did you find that really hard with everybody just like I'm sure people were just going like ripping him a new one yeah and I think that's the thing like of course in those moments when you do care for somebody and you love them you want to support them and you want to either for them but then at the same time I'm like no like I know that's hard it's a very difficult thing yeah that's tricky because even even certain things like when I was on the show even like the guys that I had dated when people were attacking them even though in that moment like I was like yeah like fine to break up with them or whatever like there are certain guys that I did care about like even if it was just not not you know I'm not

even saying more than a friend like if I just cared about them I felt so bad when people were mean to them or how they would say to me like how could you like that like that guy, ew, like, you must see that now. I'm like, when you're kind of offending me. Right. I know. You know, like, you obviously didn't see what I... I'm a good judge of character. Yeah, like, you obviously didn't see or be there for a lot of it and didn't see what I saw. Like, I just I always, like, took it personally. I'd be like, when you're kind of like dissing me in this moment by saying like, ew, how could you? Totally. Because you saw an edited version on TV. Yeah. And I do think it is important to stand up for yourself and to be a strong woman and

like realize your worth and I you know it's just it's a weird it's a weird really weird situation to be in I don't even know how to wrap my mind it's weird it's a great word to use but I also wanted to know like how you feel about like how production handled that like producers like how they would you know obviously the producers know that he's going to do this and nobody was going to give you a heads up because that's they want good TV they want they wanted your like raw reaction. And so how did you feel that the producers handled that and for like good TV? Because I always feel like we kind of had this conversation another time, like how they always want to make the girls look like they're the desperate ones and the heartbroken ones. Like, don't you find that? I think that was

my biggest issue with watching the whole season back is that I'm not a desperate woman. I have never really had to try very difficult, very hard to date somebody. I've been single for like three years now and I am totally okay with being on my own and I'm like a very independent person and I'm fine with that and actually like I've sort of always felt like I don't care if I have to wait till I'm 70 years old until I find the love of my life like I will be fine on my own if it takes that long right but um but at the same time in this I mean it's a show to find love and to stay every week so that maybe you could find the possibility of somebody coming on so like when people are like you're so desperate I think that really irked me because I think being a 30 33 almost

almost 34-year-old, too, is that I just hate perpetuating the stereotype of, like, women in their 30s being desperate. Yeah, because they're not with somebody. Yeah, we don't have to be desperate, you know? And I just, I hate that. Like, people are getting married a lot later in life, and people should celebrate the fact that women are single in their 30s, and who cares? If you're trying hard for love, like, I'm sorry, but shouldn't we all be putting ourselves

out there and, like, trying for love? Yeah, absolutely. And that's what people would be mad if you went on there and didn't do that because then they'd be like, you're just here for TV. Like I just, obviously you can't win with a lot of people like who watch the show and have something like those opinions. But I mean, there's a lot of people who love you too because I tweeted like to ask questions. And so many people were like, just let her know we love her. And we're like cheering her on. And like people. So you have so many people rooting for you too. But like, I mean, there's just. The worst thing people can say about me is that I'm desperate. Then I'm like, okay, fine. Exactly. Desperate and you're like, especially knowing you're not. Like, you know, it would be one thing if you're like, damn it, I am desperate. Like, you're like, no, I'm actually-

I'm just more mad about it because it's like that group of women are always portrayed as desperate. And I hate being, I hate, I don't want to, I want to be like a voice for women. I want to be somebody that people can look up to and not somebody who's like, another 30-something who's desperate, you know? Yeah, exactly. I know I hated that for you that they did that. And then Chelsea, what happened at the end with the... That was not real.

What was real that night? I don't... It was. You know, yeah. I don't know. I mean, we've spoken since. We've hung out. I was going to say, yeah.

When we are both out for the reunion, we saw each other. The thing is, I really... It's just, it's hard for me because I love Chelsea as a person aside from that one night. And it's hard because I'm like, I just don't, I don't know. again like we're we're I guess we would say we're friendly you know we're friends yeah I would hang out with her but I don't know you're yeah no I know you mean you're not she's not going to be in your close circle for the rest of your life like she's not like your go-to like you know I mean if it wasn't for that one night like I feel like she would be yeah and that it makes me really

sad because I think I think she is a great person yeah yeah no that's tough I feel like well I'm the same kind of way like if somebody breaks my trust once I'm kind of like now I'm scared to let you in close. Yeah. Especially with a guy, too, because then it's like anytime you date anyone, you're always sort of thinking, what is your, do you have a hidden agenda? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, absolutely.

It's so funny because I was like doing, trying to do some research. But it's so funny, the headlines, like just certain things. I see it's like, it's like, Annalise sizzles in tiny bikini after public breakup. Like, I'm like, yes, girl. Like, I love it. I haven't read any. I like just stay off of the. Well, that's a great thing, but I don't see anything.

Everything's just like you look good and he wants you back and all these things. So maybe you should Google. I'm just kidding. Huh? You stay off completely? Like my mom and my grandma will send me articles about myself, but I haven't Googled myself in a very long time because I'm just, like, I don't need to see any of that. I try, like, I mean, the one thing I do is I try to respond to as many, like, comments and emails and DMs, I do, which it's been, I realize. I realized that's draining it's like a full-time job somebody actually said on one of my comments

I think recently like do you have a job because you respond to so many of these and I was like but the thing is it's almost therapeutic in a way like seeing yes there is the the the one community to talk to yeah there's like a couple really negative ones but there's so many positive ones and just people that understand you and have you have your back and that's what's really amazing yeah do you respond to the negative ones I either just delete them or block them or sometimes they do respond it depends what it's about like somebody like comments on my fashion and I'm like actually I really stand by

my fashion yeah yeah you're like wait a sec and you're like and it's my fashion yeah that's bottom line so whatever I don't care if you don't like it that means you wouldn't like their fashion either but you wouldn't go to their Instagram page and tell them that or would you because I do that sometimes I remember one girl said to me something

like something super nasty and her profile like bio was literally like be kind you never know who's having a bad day or something like that. Wait, what? So I just like copy and pasted her bio and sent it back and then she said, touche. Oh,

that's good. I was like, well, how stupid are you? See, now I'm a bully calling her stoop. Where are you from from? So I was born in Newport Beach. Yeah. So southern California. But then I was like Bay Area girl my whole life. I think you were like Polish or something. Because he's

Polish. Oh, he's Polish. So my background is Italian and Mutt, like European Mutt. And then, but I lived in New York for like six plus years and I lived in L.A. for like six years. And that's like, that is the other thing too. The New York thing, a lot of people are like, oh, you would just move to New York for a guy. We were talking about this earlier and I'm like, I like, I like, I like, no, I actually, I have so many friends. I like, I would just move back. God, people are so quick to judge you. Like, like, oh no, you like see the best in everybody and you fall in love quickly

and like you would move to the like a sweet-ass city. Like, come on. People are so ridiculous. We'll be right back with more off the vine. Safe Therapy. Alexa isn't the only one with breaking news. Make sure to hang around at the end of this podcast for the latest breaking headlines on the AP News Minute. Hey guys, if you like my show, then you're going to love the Natalie Eva Marie show on Podcast 1.

The former WWE and Total Diva Star, along with husband Jonathan Coyle, team up to deliver one-of-a-kind opinions not heard on any other podcast. With a rotating guest list, including celebrities, influencers, and activists, get ready to be informed, intrigued, and entertained. Check out the Natalie Eva-Marie show every Wednesday on podcast one or wherever your favorite podcasts are. You're listening

to Off the Vine, rape therapy. So we're going to play a little game. Are you ready? Yeah. It's called Make It or Break It. All right. And basically, you're going to imagine your dream guy. I think we should have a... We're doing a Blaret. We're doing a little Bachelorette series for this girl in Nashville.

You should do it for Annalise, too. Let's do it. I want to be a matchmaker. Let's do it. Yeah, do you like scrunchies? Yeah, why not? Perfect. You can have one. You get a scrunchy.

The new fall collection. Yeah, it's the new fall collection. Okay, so he's perfect in every way except, and I'm going to name some traits. Okay. And you're going to tell me if it. I don't have to think on my own. No, I'll give it to you. And so you either make it, like if you'd still date him for this reason, or you'd break it for this reason, okay.

He's vegan. Make it. You'd make it work? Okay. He's introverted. Make it. Okay. He hates the outdoors.

I feel like everyone is going to be makeup for me. Really? Make it. Cute. It's romantic. Yeah. I'll see the best in him. His mattress is on the floor.

I've dated guys like that. I'd be like, I have to say makeup. Does it throw you off a little bit, though? I'm like, if bed frame is coming, then... Yeah, if it's on the way. Yeah. It's like in the mail or something. Yeah, like if you just moved in.

But if this is like six months or something, and I'm like, you have... Okay. I say that, but my mattress is... on the floor for a solid year. I also slept on an air mattress for like two years when I, the first two years I lived in in L.A. And then in New York I lived, I slept on a sofa bed the entire time. But those are like

in, that's like the New York way. I know, I'm just like I'm not, I need a good mattress now that I'm in my 30s, but in my 20s, I was like, I'll sleep anywhere. I was the same way. Like, I lived four people in a one bedroom apartment when I first moved to Vancouver. Four people in a one bedroom apartment with one bathroom.

That's crazy. It was insane. But I was like, girls and guys or just girls? Girls and guys. Wow. One bathroom. You ended up dating the one guy. You'd have to. Because we were sharing a room.

I guess you're my boyfriend. And you're like, and I pee in front of you anyway. I'm like, you've smelled my poop at this point. Like, you're sleeping in my bed. I guess we're dating. A little bit of a detour there into my life. Okay. So his mattress is allowed to be on the floor is what we're getting at.

Wow. So, yes, his mattress can be on the floor. Okay. At parties, he plays the guitar, but kind of really badly. Wait, it's make it or break it? Yeah. I make it. Yeah.

See, I mean, I would be all make it for these. I love you. I would be all make it for these. Because I think about, like, the positive things. I'm like, he could still be taking classes. You are so sweet. You're like, well, maybe his headboard's on the way. Yeah.

One day. That's so sweet. He's a really bad texter. okay that is the one that maybe is a break it yeah especially if you're doing long distance yeah um his facebook profile picture is from 2011 make it that's fine oh some people don't like change that much no i would i actually would probably like that i'd probably prefer it because i'd be like he doesn't care about yeah that too i like i've dated a couple guys who have like no social media and i feel like that's so cool yeah that's true oh yeah okay your mom hates him oh okay oh

um that's hard i know my mom's hated guys before and it's like definitely put a huge strain on our relationship so it could possibly break it could it could be a possible break it right there's potential of it breaking but i'm like i'm i mean i say this to her all the time i'm like oh i hate saying this but i'm like mom we got to be real like there is going to come a day that you won't be here and i need to have somebody who can take care of me and who loves me so like you got you know is she hard to please? No, but I just think I'm her only child. Of course. And so I think, you know, she just wants the best for me. Yeah, of course. That don't make her bad people. No. He has terrible style. That can be fixed. You have a fixer, aren't you? Are you a fixer? He's a horrible

kisser. Oh, that I don't know if it can be totally fixed. I think that's a break it. For me. This is the thing. It would never even get to a further point. Because I feel like if somebody's that bad of a kisser, that I'd be, like, not wanting it to go further. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I feel like a kiss a lot of times people are like, how can you kiss so many people on the show? But I feel like you have to. Yeah, because that chemistry, sometimes you kiss somebody and you're like, oh, it's so there or it's not there.

And sometimes you don't think it's there and then you kiss them and it's there. I mean, that's what happened with Kenny, honestly. Like, he and I were such good friends. And then we kissed her, we're like, oh, okay. Yeah. This is interesting. Oh, okay. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Oh, that's cute. He is, this question's kind of funny because I forgot you were, had the dog thing. He says he's allergic to dogs. That probably wouldn't bother you of. Well, I don't know. Like, you love animals, but like he, if he's allergic to dogs. I mean, there's hyperalogenic dogs, so.

That was a stupid question. I immediately regret asking you that one. Also, like everyone in my family has dogs. It would still be a little bit of an issue, but they're all hyperalogenic as well. That was a dumb question. Caitlin, you're better than that. You're my fourth podcast of the day, okay? I'm slacking over here.

Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm all about the games on this podcast. I like it. And so we're going to play. We need to come up with a name for this game. Basically, I'm going to tell you three things. One of them is true.

Two of them are a lie. Wait, I did the opposite. True lies. It's called two truths and a lie. It's called two truths and a lie. Oh, very straightforward. and to the point. Yeah.

I was saying like, true lies. I was like, one lie and a couple truths. That's the name for it, I'm pretty sure. Like, that's, I played this game before. Two truths and a lie. Yeah. Oh, shit, I did two lies and a truth. That's where I was confused.

I was like, I did it wrong. Okay, I can still work with this, right? Yeah. If you can think of another one quickly. So now it is your own original game. It's two lies and a truth. But I know, do I have to come up with two lies? I'll just do it wrong.

Okay, mine's going to be called two lies and a truth. truth and yours is going to be called two truths in a lot okay so here's do you have wine in your cup no i was going to say do you like red i'm more of a white person but that's fine we have but that's fine we can do you know what drink the rest of my white and i'm going to have red because i'm more of a red girl yeah all right perfect switch okay okay um so keep in mind i'm telling you three things I like that you have to read off your phone for them Two, okay I did send mine to my girlfriends

to see if they thought they were good ones so I could always read them off my phone too So two are a lie, one is the truth Okay, ready? I went skydiving and one of my parachutes broke I have my nipple pierced I had to call a medic one year at Burning Man because I got too much sand in the wrong places

So I have to choose which one is the truth? Yes. The nipple pierce. Oh, damn it, yes. Did you know that about me? No! But I've gone to Burning Man I don't think you've, I feel like you haven't

I told you Cleo I told Cleo I went three years with my mom And my mom went by herself this year How badass is she? Oh, yeah I know I didn't go because I had the reunion But she went by herself this year Your mom went by herself to Burning Man

How cool is she? Wow, what an eye on And it's her birthday tomorrow We're gonna have to actually At some point we have to do like a video Oh of course Oh my gosh that's amazing I am so picking up Cleo's mannerisms

And like sayings it's so funny You're doing me You're doing mine too It's so funny. We're spending so much time together. I haven't even realized. Because you always go, oh, of course. And I just keep saying that.

It's so funny. Yeah, but I just thought my, I said that to Cleo out. When I was making these up, I go, well, she, if she follows me on social media, she's going to know I have not been to burning that. I just feel like, if you've been, then I would have probably known that. Yeah. I feel like, I keep tabs on those things. So it wasn't believable that one of my parachutes broke while Skyde?

I feel like you probably wouldn't be here right now. There's two parachutes. You always have a backup. Oh. I have never. skydiving, which is something I want to do, but... Oh, me too. Okay, we'll go together. Again, my mom has gone twice, and I'm like,

okay, if she's gone skydiving, then I need to go to skydiving. Your mom sounds like a legend. She's really cool. I know. And I'll show you a picture of her, and you won't believe how old she is. She's beautiful. Can she be on my podcast? Yeah, totally. Cool. I tried to bring her down this time, but she... Is she in San Francisco? Okay.

Last round of... Wait, you have more? Yeah, one more. Last round of Two Lies of... a truth. It's catchy, isn't it? I got kicked off a golf course for peen in a bush. I have a tattoo on my groin that says, caution,

slippery one wet. What if that's true? And I sang Spice Girls at a karaoke bar with Carrie Underwood. Okay, these are much harder. I want to say the first one because everyone's probably done something like that.

Yes, I threw you off. No. The last one? Yes. Okay. It was like, yeah. It was one of the two. It was like after the CMA Awards, Carrie Underwood, can I say her name?

Carrie Underwood had her after party at one of the bars that we were going to. And it was like her, she was hosting it. And we were all singing Spice Girls. And I looked next to me and I'm like, I'm saying karaoke with Carrie Underwood right now. I guess that's pretty cool. That's really cool. It's cool, I guess. if you like big celebrities and singing, which I do.

Okay. Oh, no, that's it for me. Okay, now you give me yours. Now the real game, two truths and a lie. Two truths and a lie. Yeah, two truths and a lie. I'm ready. Okay.

I've swam with sharks. I won a pie eating contest. Okay. I've been recruited by the FBI. Whoa. The lie is... Wait, what was the second one? I won a pie eating contest.

Yeah, that's when you're lying about. Yep. Really? You got recruited by the FBI? Yep. Twice. Go on. Are you allowed to tell us that?

Yeah, so I had really bad learning disabilities. I guess I technically still have very bad learning disabilities. And one of the, I guess, special things about my learning disabilities is that I have like crazy hearing. So I can hear, like, I can sort of tap into conversation sometimes. So that's like my party trick. A lot of times if I'm at a bar, I'll be like, okay, I can hear what they're saying. and I can, like, listen to a conversation.

So we have a family friend that works for the FBI, and she does, like, blue-collar crime. And she, twice, it was, like, in my 20s, she was, like, sending me paperwork, telling me, like, you need to come in, we need to interview you. Wait, that's cool. Yeah. That's cool.

Holy crap. That is crazy, though. Yeah. Whoa, wait. And the first one, and you swam sharks. Yeah. Oh, me too. And where were you?

Tahiti. I mean, I've done it a couple times, but we did, like, scuba diving. Were you in a tank, or not, not. tank a cage me either yeah so we went like we went deep and um my it was when my mom my stepdad got married and they were on the on the boat for some reason I can't remember why but um they could see like there was one shark just circling us the whole time and it was like I guess pretty scary for them

but pretty pretty cool for us and we're like yeah we did that yeah it was cool that's when you said we we went deep I thought of that song we go deep and we don't get I don't sleep until on night until the early night No You don't know that's on Totally

Yeah I was just wondering why Nobody join me on Oh because I'm not I'm not singing right now Are you kidding me? I was like harmonizing with myself We go deep

And we're gonna sleep Wait who is it though Is it this late night tough guy I feel like you gotta be careful Like Googling that Actually that's so true That's just we we go deep and we don't get no sleep and we know get and we know get and we know get

English is Cleo's third language no I thought it was like it's Janet Jackson how do I not know that of course anyways you swamish sharks you went deep um okay next one okay that was that was the only one I can probably come up with another one okay I'll try and come up with one right now too um two Two truths and a lie. Okay. Wait, two truths and a lie or should I do two lies in a two? Yeah. Okay, wait, I'm going to do two truths and a lie. Can you think of one off the top of your head? Well, they're just like lame. Totally go. Okay, I feel like they're like not, we're not going to learn anything interesting about meat at all. That's okay. We just like games around here. Okay. Okay, I was nine pounds when I was born. Okay. My favorite. food is Mexican. Okay. And I had my belly button pierced. And that's two truths in a lie?

Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, you said you used like chips. Your favorite food's Mexican. So you're... Mm-hmm. And... What was the first?

Oh, you're nine pounds when you're born. Whoa, those are two... Like, between the two of them, it's weird that that's one of the lies. We know there's a third one. No, there's a third one. What? Yeah, no, I know. Between the last two that I was thinking.

I'm like, you don't have to decide between those two. And you had your belly button pierced. Nine pounds, man. Belly bit pierced. Yeah. Why? No, truth. Truth.

You were nine pounds. Final answer. Oh, because two of them are lies. No, two of them are truth. Two of those were truth. One's a lie. You like it. You like Mexican.

Yes. Is the truth. And you had your belly button pierced. That's the truth. Nope. Oh. Nine pounds. You were nine pounds when you were born?

I was two. I was like two. weeks late oh i was like nope not coming out whoa stubborn little thing oh that's crazy how i was like i think i was seven pounds and like six ounces that's actually i thought you'd be four four pounds i was it no i was a little chunk when i was born really yeah quite unfortunate looking actually um dang i really like that game i know i know it's fun that's a really good one that is a good one i might have to um wait next time i'm gonna come with just like a whole notebook Yeah, that's perfect.

Okay, I'm going to ask you questions from listeners because we have 10 minutes left. Oh, 5. Okay, perfect. Okay, let me get to the questions here. So I'm getting a bored. I know. What is going on for me? He gives me, like, signs if I have 10 minutes left.

Or if I'm like, if somebody's being boring or. I've never had a boring guest. I really haven't. No, they've... Because I involve wine. Yeah, that's true. But also, I feel like you're very prepared. You have questions.

You have games. That's true. That's just like a well-rounded... I do love my games. If I could just play an hour of games, I would. I mean, I'm sure you could start to just incorporate that slowly, but surely. You should have one game show a month. Or just have, like...

Or just like rapid fire games. That's what I should do on my grape therapies. Yeah. Good call. You can call it bristow there, girl. Oh. No. Bristow, no, you didn't. Bristow, snap.

Oh, wow. Have I just unlocked your punts? You really did. You really did. Now I'm just like, Bristow, Canada. I'm like thinking of anything, oh, starting. Okay. Sarah Strum wants to know what makes her hopeful.

That's deep. It's sweet and deep, but I know you got a good answer for it. I mean I'm a total believer in love So I feel like if we're gonna stay Bachelor themed I feel like I'm always I will never give up on love I'm always hopeful that that person is out there I have a guy for you Do you? What? Yes, I just thought about it

Who? Who? Let's call him Who is it? Call him, who is it? Give me the phone Oh my gosh Oh my gosh yeah okay that was my first like serious boyfriend's name Graham I knew it this is meant to be Do you like fun? Who doesn't like fun? Imagine she was like, nope.

Nope. Fun? Pass. That's a break. That's a speaker. This is awkward. I really like you. This is my boyfriend's twin.

Yeah. Oh. It's Claire's boyfriend's twin. Is he the good twin or the bad twin? It's a fun twin. Okay. Oh, Grant. It's Caitlin.

Or is this Adam? No, it's Grant. Oh, hi, Grant. Oh, hey, it's Caitlin. Don't sound so happy. sorry you must have the wrong number I just wanted to just give you a little heads up you are on my podcast right now okay

oh thank you this is really nice glad to have you here so we're just sitting here with my girlfriend Annalise so thank you for inviting me oh you're so welcome thank you for being here today yeah thank you for being here Grant we missed you on the red carpet yesterday

oh yeah we missed you at the Emmys I know I know I got busy with a couple other award shows. Oh, yeah, it happens. Okay, so we're here with my girlfriend, Annalise, and she was just on Bachelor in Paradise, and we were just like, we're like asking what kind of guy. She likes him.

We came down to realizing that I think we should set you guys up on a date. Yeah. She's a really cute blonde, and she believes in love, and she doesn't even care if you sleep on a mattress on the floor. But he doesn't. But you don't. Do you? Okay.

Well, first question to her is, what do you think about pets? About pets? Do you say pets? Bunk beds? Oh, bunk beds. Oh, he loves bunk beds. I mean, if we're camping, but only one person can sleep on each bunk, so it's like, or you just have to squeeze in real twilight. Are you not a big cuddler? Like, you would like a bunk bed in a relationship?

Yeah, like what? I know. Like, you got to give us. It's kind of like the emergency. It's like, oh, that day, well, guess who's not sleeping on the bottom. Someone's got to go to the top. Oh, like it's like you wouldn't send them to the couch. You'd send them to the top bunk. Oh, that's interesting. What I would always want the bottom. When's her first date? Oh, your first date? When, Annalise, do you ever have any plans of going to Denver?

With me? Sure. Yeah, okay. What would he do for the first date? What would you do for Annalise for your first date? Well, I would probably do something like slow dancing, but obviously after we take her to a nice dinner like TGI Friday. Oh, yes. Break it.

Wow. Break it. You broke it. But you started nicely. The slow dancing was very romantic. Very good. And then you ruined it with T.J. Fridays. Yeah.

Yeah. No, we probably do something fun like karaoke. Oh, karaoke. Oh, could you get down with karaoke, Annaleigh? After a couple drinks, maybe. Okay, we also need to know. Are you a horrible kisser? No.

First of all, is that a common thing? He met me with that. No, so we were asking her, like, what's a make it or break it? We were doing, like, this whole segment on make it or break it. And one was, he's a horrible kisser. I said, make it or break it. And she said, yeah, you can't fix that. So I'm just covering our bases here, Grant.

Okay. I would say I'm really good. Like, one to ten, what would you rate yourself? When I'm on airplanes a lot, I try to just, like, try to see if anyone wants to kiss. It's not going very well, but. You're open. Okay. Would you consider yourself the kind of guy at a party that would play the guitar but kind of badly?

Yeah, that would actually be exactly me. He's probably less playing, more dancing. Oh, slow dancing. But I would have a guitar by hand. He's also a really good dancer. Yeah, but I have a guitar my hand. Oh, I have seen Grant dance. He is a good dancer, so.

So many things. Okay, and then do you have any questions for Annalise? Yeah, do you have any animals? Because that's a deal breaker. Oh. Well, I don't because my, because I did, but they passed away. But I'm looking to adopt a new one. She wants to adopt and her, her pet passed away, you, you insensitive dick.

I know, so a deal breaker that's, like, very hard to put that out there. Wait, this is, yeah, okay, what's the deal breaker? Or you don't want a pet? I don't know. Yeah, what's the deal breaker? Weirdly worded question. I just don't want all that hair around my place. Oh, you don't like that hypoallergenic dogs out there, okay?

You can get a dog that doesn't. I swear he's a nice guy. Grant, this is not going, well. Well, but I feel like at the same time, Caitlin, honesty is very crucial right off the bat. That's true. We'll just sit there. We'll both just kind of rethink things that we don't actually mean. And you totally redeem yourself.

Yes, okay. Honestly, perfect. And then last but not least, what year is your Facebook profile picture from? What year? Yeah, like 2011, or? I think it was last year when I was in Japan. Okay. Traveler.

But maybe, I mean, I think, you know, I don't know. Japan, eh, well-traveled, you would say. Yeah, I would say very well-traveled. Bit of an outdoorsy kind of guy, a little bit of an adventure. Just reading all of the make-and-or break-outdoory, but, like, minus Birkenstocks. Oh. Outdoorsy, like minus the granola. Right, right.

Like, that's... Sounds good. Yeah, that doesn't mean, wait, that I'm so confused. To be outdoorsy, you have to be granola? No, but some people are like... Oh, some people are like... Yeah, like I don't eat granola every day. Oh.

Oh. It's like some outdoorsies that just like eat granola bars and like... Does he think being granola means eating granola bars? No, no, no, no. Where I just said, I was saying, mine is the granola, meaning like, literally eating the granola. Oh. Well, this is getting weird, which I enjoy, but Annalise might not. She looks a little scared over there, but I'm still going to set this up.

She's going to, yeah, we're just going to get Annalise to slide into your DMs and see what happens. I feel like Annalise did none of the talking here either. That's okay. I don't know if I'm really ready, but I appreciate all of this. Don't worry, I'll track her down. Okay, we'll track her down, Grant. Okay, thanks for being on the podcast. a great avenue.

Bye, Grant. See in Vegas. Bye. So funny. Okay, why do I feel like I'm in the fifth grade right now? And we're just like calling. You're like, oh my God, we got to call that boy. Remember that game, Dream Phone? Yes, of course.

Wait, I'm pulling this up. This is my last hurrah of this podcast. Dream Phone YouTube. Let's wrap this up. I know. Sorry. We're cutting a lot out, though. Yeah, exactly. That's true. That's true.

Oh, my gosh, this is going to... Who's got in crush on you? Hello, hunk. It's street phone, the electronic game with the talking phone. It's to be one of your games. Figure out which guy really likes you. He's not wearing a hat. Bye, guys. What do he say?

My secret. He's not at the beach. Oh, my God, I loved this game. Guys. It's Dan. Damn, damn. He's my man. You're right. I really like you. Yes.

Oh my gosh, this just makes fucking phone game. That was my everything. Oh, you could totally still get it, Amazon or something. We'll find one. And you wonder, you wonder why they like to play the desperate card. I was just thinking that. I'm like, all these girls are sitting around screaming. We were all wired to be like, oh, my God.

That's so. That was the old and modern day. The olden day Tinder. Yeah. Wait, that's, well, except it was fake. But that is actually so funny. Fake phone calls. getting up fake standards for women, young, impressionable girls of the 90s.

It's me, John. I love you. Immediately ready to commit. I'm like, oh, my God. John's like their fantasy man and he never exists, but 10 years later, he still does in our mind. That's actually funny. No, that's actually a really great point. We were wired to believe we were supposed to be boy crazy. Dan, Dan, he's my man.

You're right, I am. Oh, my God. You know what? I'm going to mean to make a game. Yeah, we need to. I'm going to come up with a game show. That's, that's it. And it's going to be just a shit show of different games the whole time.

I won't even know what's any of you. You know, we'll keep everybody's mind guessing, you know? Just never boring around here. Wine and games, we've got to show, people. We've got a show. Alice, is there anything else he wanted to talk about or share or anything else? Jeff is like, no. Do we cover it?

Oh, my gosh. Alex is like actually, no, Annalise is like, actually, if I could just get out of here, that would be great. Kind of with like another gossip wine and then to cry my eyes out with y'all. Oh, perfect. This is great therapy. This is like our number two. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to walk. We're going to talk to you. Yeah, we're going to walk and talk.

We're going to walk and talk. No, but, I mean, anything? No, no. It was so fun. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. You're welcome to come on the pod anytime. If you have any plans to be in Nashville anytime soon. I want to come. I've never been. So I definitely want to visit. Okay, perfect.

Well, you can come anytime. I've got a spare bedroom. Ooh, thank you. And I also have a podcast studio in the home. Nice. So we could do another one. Perfect. Okay, well, thank you for being here.

Oh, and where can people find you? On my Insta, it's Annalase P. You can find her in her sizzly bikinis. Sizzly bikinis. But nobody knows how to ever spell my name. Oh, yeah, what is it? A-N-N-A-L-E-S-E. Don't.

Wow. Wait, I'm actually really impressed with myself. Yeah, that was good. And then just add a P for the Instagram. Oh, that's it. Okay. Perfect. Well, thank you so much for being here.

And we really wish you all of the best. And you're going to find your Prince Charming, but if you don't, who cares? Maybe Grant. Yeah. And by Prince Charming. Yeah. You're going to go on a date with Grant. Guys, I really am not ready to date yet.

But yes, I appreciate it. Maybe in a month or two months. Oh, I thought we were going to say like a year. Yeah, month. Absolutely. We still got to plan that. Absolutely. In a month.

In a month, Annalise, settle down. Stop jumping the gun here. Guys, I'm desperate here. Yeah. What are you desperate or something? Just kidding. Girls, if you believe in love, you're not desperate. Your session is now.

Thanks for listening to Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Tune in to hear new minisodes every Thursday. And check out new full-length episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcast one.com, the Podcast One app, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Who's not with OTV?