Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Bachelor Recap with Carly Waddell & Evan Bass feat. Bibiana Julian

Episode Date: January 18, 2018

Kailtyn jumps into Bachelor talk with Bachelor power-couple Carly & Evan about their thoughts on Arie as The Bachelor, as well as Monday's GLOW-themed wrestling contest, the two-drink maximum, and the dog date. And in a special twist, they get a call from the fiery Bibiana to talk about her experience on the season and her upcoming romp on Winter Games! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I am your host, Caitlin Bristow. I don't know. I need to warm up a little bit. Okay, we need to warm up. Carly, how are you feeling? I'm feeling okay. Okay. We had a doctor's appointment today.

Did it go well? Yeah, it went well. Great. My baby is in the right position to come out. Lovely. That's a really good thing. And how does that make you feel? You know, it makes me feel a little nervous.

Yeah, of a little excited. And that's very natural. Am I comforting? Yeah, it actually was, right? Membrings are thinning out. Oh, yeah. Evan felt good about my membrane. Membris?

Oh, good. Oh, it's softening. It's not dilated. We're not dilated. No, we're not. That's important. Can I be there with a live podcast when you go into childbirth? We've already sold that to us fakely.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, because you're not making money off me, so. Might as well find someone, except for we're not, because that's disgusting. The world is going to be alive. We have worked for 1795. Everyone can join in. 1795. Per minute.

Yes. Per minute. Wow. That's a steal of a deal. Steal of a deal. Okay. So I'm so glad everyone is joining us on this lovely Thursday. I know it's Wednesday today, but it comes out tomorrow.

We hope your week's going well. You're almost at Friday. You're almost there. Do I sound like a therapist? Yes, you do. It's very soothing. Good, because that's how I'm going to start and end it, but in between, I'm just going to go back to crazy old Caitlin. Okay, so since we have Carly and Evan, I thought we'd recap The Bachelor from Monday night, even though it's Thursday, and I'm sure everyone's over it by now.

But we are not, because it was very dramatic. Very dramatic. We're still thinking about it. Maybe even the most dramatic, no, it's definitely not. We're not there yet. I'm still pretty shook. Are you shook? I shook it.

The ending was sad. So I'm sad. about it. Oh, usually we're happy to see people go, not this time. Not this time. Okay. Well, if you don't follow Evan on Twitter, his humor gives me a run for my money. And he, he's been there, done that. Carly couldn't be bothered to try and tweet because she's so zoned into the episodes and is cooler than us. Also, my brain is working really slowly. Yeah. Also, you have Mama Brain, which is not good for Twitter. But you were excused because that's just, that's justified. I appreciate you guys. I thought you had really funny tweets.

I had one. What was it? Which one? I forget. It was funny. Oh, thank you. Very memorable. He just loves me.

Well, I probably thought it was funny. You're funny, and it's funny because you don't try. I think it was something about some girls was wearing an outfit during the dog show, and I said that's my show car outfit from high school, which was actually very similar. You weren't even trying to be funny or just being accurate. No, I'm like, that's true. Right. It's amazing.

You're welcome for that handy. I'm going to start by asking how we feel about already being the Bachelor. I love it. You know, I really wanted Wells to be The Bachelor. Yes, of course he did. I just wanted to show up,

like, in the mansion. Yeah. They would pick me to come show up. Kevin just wanted more TV time. Yeah, you want to go. That's okay.

But, no, I thought Wells would be a fantastic Bachelor turns out. He's got a girlfriend. So, uh-oh. So, you know,

after him, then, like, Ari's kind of a cool throwback. I like, I'm like kind of going back in the day and like, You're so sweet. Not picking what everyone wanted. I do.

We're so badass that we can pick anyone you want. You're still going to watch. You're still going to watch. It is. It's slightly rebellious in The Bachelor. Even though the ratings are down. No, no, no. Well. The first two episodes, one up against college football.

Oh, you're right. You're right. This episode actually did really well. It was back up where normally is. You're right. And here's my thoughts. Right now, I said this to you guys before. I said, yeah, Ari's a great bachelor if you like elevator music.

But I know that's kind of mean, and I'm not a mean person. But it's just that there's so much going on with all the girls right now, and there's 25 personalities to one. So they can't really show his like, yeah. You know, he even made fun of himself on Twitter saying, oh, so glad they showed my great conversations. Oh, wait. Right.

Because really they didn't. And to me, I'm like, can't wait for. already to show up and like to do something funny or like right now he's just kind of like going with the flow he's not ruffling any feathers he's he's not too nice he's not mean he's just kind of like dude to do going with everything okay so yeah he is yeah let me ask you this when was there a super entertaining bachelor great question i mean you know it's really sad my brother would have been the greatest bachelor of all time yes he would have been funny he would have been romantic he would have been sensitive he would have been cutthroat yes yeah lively

all of these things i'm so glad he wasn't right because he met elizabeth right after and it's so happy by the way for those who forget carlie's brother zach was on desire's season of the bachelor's and he was gold kicked off after they met our family right so there's that um but Zach would have been the greatest bachelor in all time. Yeah. He really would have been. Well, maybe... I still think about it. Oh, wait. No. Maybe Finn will grow up his

baby and he... There's a good thought. But I like not having like a bachelor that's super personality group because it gives the women a chance to really kind of... I hear you, but my only thing is that I don't find, and Jade had a good point that he's not very

empathetic. Yeah. So I think he was in these ladies positions however five years ago when he was on the season but he made it so far and she always really liked him so now he's the bachelor and he doesn't really have empathy for these girls who all came out for him and are getting sent home he's kind of like oh you're showing me a moment of weakness I'm out yes and then all these like lovely ladies who are like oh I'm a little vulnerable and I'm in a very uncomfortable situation he's like oh I can't handle that by yeah anything that someone expresses that's negative he wants you gone yeah this is one thing i actually kind of paid about the bachelor is even like these dates that you don't want to do

the thing that you have to do like the mud run on crystal season you and i wanted to just end it yeah but you have to do it and you have to do it with a smile because if not you're not fun yeah you're not a team player yeah you know what in the world we don't want to do I know. We should be able to not do it and not have a guy judge us for not wanting to do it and not have a guy want to kick us off because we didn't want to do half of a marathon. You're like, maybe I want to kick you off because you're making me uncomfortable. Yeah, because you're making me do something I don't want to do that makes me feel sick.

Yeah. Oh, sorry. I can step out. But you know what I mean? Heaven was like slowly backing up. I'm not going to inject myself. but yeah i just feel like the bachelor expects

all of the girls to do everything with a smile on their face and act like they're having so much fun and don't you find they always say i really want to see her out of her comfort zone why yeah but they don't go out of their comfort zone they just didn't watch and that's another thing the bachelors don't really get involved where i as the bachelorette was they were like katelyn you should really make the guys feel comfortable and get in there i do it i had to to sumo wrestle a very large man in a very uncomfortable outfit.

And I cried before I had to do it. I was like, oh, I want to do it. And they're like, that would really make the guys feel comfortable. So I did it. Meanwhile, Ari just has to put on his little mask and watch all of the girls wrestle each other. I'm sorry, but listen, one of the most successful bachelor contestants a whole time, Corinne. Yeah. She took naps. So she didn't, she's not. And Becca, too, Becca M is. definitely bucking the trend of like I'm just going to do everything you know she's just kind of like saying whatever she wants so I don't know no no in the wrestling thing she was like she loved she was like super into was that the cat did we know that that's actually accurate or was she putting on because she felt like she had to well my guess is that she wanted to do it okay we'll never know maybe we will well Well, that leads me to my next point of the wrestling date, where she was in her cat suit.

But you know what? It started out with Chris Harrison looking super casual in his cool blue plaid shirt. Oh, yes. I think I actually own that shirt. Yeah, I think I do too. Yeah, we can match. What? Can I read one of Becca's tweets?

Please do. Okay. For the record, I had the time of my life on that date. When I was like seven years old, my big brother and I used to do WWU. style matches in the room swinging around couch pushing screaming the chair the chair okay you win you win the argument and Becca kind of wins Twitter with that I respect that she really I felt like I was right there I really did okay so yeah the girls all guessed they were going wrestling which is crazy because usually overthink those date cards and

right anyways they were right it was like we're wrestling so art comes out in an outfit that is Far from intimidating. And hey, did you guys know that he is called the kissing bandit? Oh, Lord. Yes. Yeah, we all get it. We get it and we got it. And we're good.

And we're good now. Yeah, we're over it. We got it five years ago. We still get it now. We still get it. And we'll hear it. Ew, that's so gross. Okay.

Guys, I have to tell you. Sean calls me pillow lips and now it's dead. It's dead now. Oh, no. No, he can't ever say it anymore. That was, and I used to think it was so romantic. He'd be like, give me those pillow lips. And now I'm like, hmm.

Because then you think of Ari's lips and you're like. Yeah, it's really unfortunate. Oh, man. So anyways, Ari and a mask. We get it. Here's a kid's even bandit. And who are these women yelling at them? The glow wrestlers?

Or the grandmother. Although I did like that show on that place. Yeah, I'm like, um, Why didn't you bring in the, what are they? The WW Divas? Oh, yeah. Bring in Kelly Kelly. Yeah.

Kelly for the win. Yeah, no, not this time, Caitlin. No? Well, they're paying homage to Glow, like, the Netflix show or whatever. Oh. Which is a great show. Is that what they're doing? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, okay, that all makes sense. Yes. Right. You scratch my back. I'll scratch yours. Yeah, but they're not 100 years old. They're like our age. But this was set in like the 70s.

No, I know. Of course. Why didn't they bring the girls from the TV show? That could have been a little more exciting. They wouldn't know it's so neat. Wait, what's that girl? What's the super famous? She's on, like,

I know. There's one girl on Globe that, like, everyone would know who she is, and she's, like, that was. Camel Anderson. Close. Close, but no. I'm just like, I don't know, she's Canadian. But the show.

She's kidding. So, at this point, it's hard to remember names. All I remember from the state was, okay, so Tia and Biviana. Yeah, they were crying, which is sad. Why would he say? But, um, first of all,

old woman were yelling at then. Oh, yeah. And they were, and she was like, oh, your mom didn't know how to spell. The girl was taking jabs at baby, she's doing your mom jokes. Yeah.

There's, that is just all unnecessary. What? What? Like, it's just silly and stupid. I think that's crazy. You won't say that when Viviana's on the show later.

I love to be on it. I know, I know, Biggie's fan. You are. What were you going to say? I just think those are two of the strongest women

on like personality wise Tia and Viviana yeah and that those women were mean to them and they got upset says a lot yeah because we're like we get it wrestling has acting like that's part of it but that was too far

yeah they were you know they were tasked with that you go and you just roll these feathers oh yeah they were like and if they're weak you go harder yeah but not like let's bring their mom into this. Someone brings my mom in, I need to get pissed or start crying. Well, there you go.

Yeah. That's what they're trying to do. They're trying to light some fires under the bucks. So they went straight to the moms. Say that stuff about me, but don't see stuff about my mom. But maybe they're hoping that that would fire them up and they'd be like, oh, yeah. Yeah.

You know, it's high risk, high reward. Yeah. One of my favorite sayings I say it all the time about so many things. Like a hungover breakfast. Oh, yeah. Greasy eggs. You know, Puevos, Van Chiro's, high-risk, high reward. That's really funny.

You either feel like a million bucks, you want to keep her going, or you puke. Okay, so Becca M., that's the little Betty Boo. Yes. We love her. They're really cute, and people freak out that she's 22, but really, do we all want to show our age by freaking out over the Bachelor? Everyone's like, oh my gosh, she's 22, and I'm like, you're tweeting about the Bachelor. Who cares? Right.

Yeah. You know? Like, we're all in it to. together. Crystal thinks she has it in the bag. Right. In the what? In the bag. Is that a Canadian term or am I? No, you said it. Oh, because I said like bag. Like bag. How do you say bag? I still think you say bag. Oh, I just did say I heard it myself that time. Bag. Okay. Yeah. And the mom got the group date rose. What's her name again? Her name is Chelsea. Yeah. Carly has a little cheat sheet in front of Chelsea. That is her name.

and whoever was the lunch lady should have gotten the rose i still don't know i don't know either that was such great makeup yeah they just very convincing me i feel so bad for her maybe she just was a lunch lady thrown in there because she got she got the chap like whoever was like let's make you the lens lady was like i don't know i'm looking through these women i think it's was her the one that looks like Jacqueline Schwartz Oh maybe I think it was I think it was

And she's gorge And she just gets thrown into line Good for her Good for her You know She's like I'm hot a lot The one lady We didn't hear her complain about it

No she didn't I like that The mall I have to Mola Mola Mola Yeah I have to address something touchy subject but I want to stand up for her even though she could rub me the wrong way

Crystal's voice I hate when people attack her for her voice I hate it it makes me furious for her because I'm like this girl that is her voice right and she's getting attacked by like America saying like I can't stand her can't stand her voice I understand if someone rubs you the wrong way you're going to find an easy trigger for yourself right don't attack her voice this is the only thing I'll say about that is that the tweets and I have seen that people are annoyed with is that her voice changes when

she's around Ari. So it'll go to... But that could be nerves. Or it could be a tactic. Yes, it could. I don't think it's intentional. We need, this is what makes a good podcast. Devils. Yeah. Advocates. Because I feel like, you know, some girls will just talk like this and then look at around and I'm like,

Hi, how are you? Yes. And you know what I mean? And then you're like, oh my god that's not even how you talk yes has she been like a bad person at all I don't think a bad person no like defined bad person as she like threatened death upon people's family no she like the girl's healthy is stolen like people's time over and over again right but she did try to do that she did that one but I think they're just you know I think she's gorgeous and I think she's very confident and she might rub me the wrong way maybe she does maybe she doesn't try and be very positive in you know but I'm like don't attack her voice

right you know don't have don't attack things people can't control yeah because honestly unless she gets out and like we see her in like a year and she's like oh oh oh I get it I get it no I guarantee you like she was sitting here we'd be like oh I didn't even notice that right right exactly but like her her voice is just slightly different than anyone else is but automatically like it's different for all the Sophia Bush, is that the girl that has, like, she kind of, like, has her, like, I don't know, but I follow her on Instagram. I just don't know her voice. She has, like, super raspy voice, and, but it's, like, a hot, sexy voice. I love raspy. Why? It's because that Crystal is rubbing girls the wrong way,

so they're attacking her voice. I don't like it. You can say, you can say, you know, I don't really care for that person and blah, blah, blah, blah. You can have your opinion. Don't attack somebody's voice. I'm over it. Or somebody's eye rubs that just don't grow. because they're tired condition. Yes, Carly. You, no, you did go through something. Well, I filled them in now, so I'm okay. You're like, got that shit tattoo, I'm good.

I did. Yeah, I did too. I got made for my facial hair, and I refused to move that anywhere, other than. You know? Other than your face. See, but that's the thing. Oh, God.

Where would you move it to? It's going to live it to my elbow, but. I was thinking about my lower back, but no. Guy with the lower back facial hair. you win that's not the movie oh yeah people attack people

for things they can't control yeah it's not nice exactly so you guys stop doing that if you do that if you're listening and you attack Crystal's voice please don't okay so to play devil advocate though oh we got another one

being on the bachelor though is us projecting all of our pain and insecurities securities on to other people yeah like i think we were like making fun of girls lipstick so really it's like a terrible form of therapy that doesn't actually work you're right you're right it's just you just be like oh i hate that person so much because i actually hate myself that's true i'm actually jealous of crystal's voice i'm gonna say it i'm like that would make for a great song it's like my like jelly cat like yeah but i was trying to think of her other

song my stanket shoes yes you know she had a rassie voice anyways very cool and her voice is way more interesting I already talked about that on like two podcasts ago because I love the rastry voice but I'm choosing not to attack crissile are we still in her voice you had me at Merlo

and lost me when you got really vulnerable oh no for um oh look at you near cheat sheet for um which Lauren is it M, A, B, C, D, L-E-F-G. S. I-J-K-L-M-O-P-Q-R-S. Lauren S.

Oh, my God. Lauren S. And she looked so cute in her little red dress in her shoes. And her sleeves. What I saw her, I was like, this girl's going to be a front of our top four for for sure. Yeah. Remember, we were so pumped when she was getting on the little plane. We're like, oh, we like her energy.

She's so pretty. She has great hair. She, I really loved her attitude. And then we're like, dun-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d----. Yeah. Another Lauren bites with this. must have gotten so psyched up in her hands. Yeah.

You know. It's so sad because she probably like, you know, she's nervous. And then she has lots of the red wine. They're at a vineyard. Or maybe they didn't have enough. Oh, great point. Very fair. Yeah, because they're on the two-three-per-hour minimum thing for back-low.

Right. Max, not minimum. Is that what it is now? Oh, no, we already had that one. Two-drink min? Max. Per hour. Oh, I would have never made it.

That is terrible. that will hurt them in the ratings. Yes. Don't you think? Yeah, I just feel like... I was wondering why there wasn't a drunk girl this season. I know. Can we go on that tangent for a second?

Yeah, of course. So should reality show of producers be responsible for the amount of alcohol someone's... Yes and no. No, that's not... Okay, fine. No. Right. Right, sir. Because people should be responsible.

yourself, you should be responsible for how much you drink on a reality show that you're on. If a producer sees someone has had too much, no, they should not egg it on. Right. And they should watch out for their behavior. Or just watch out for their behavior. Put them to bed. Yeah. If they're in a unsafe situation.

Which is really hard to actually do and that's where I'm like. Yeah. But like, come on, that's your own fault for drinking too much. Right. Right. Agreed. And you can't say, you. You had me at Merloa and then only give you two glasses.

That's just like, no, you didn't. Right. But in this case, she just kept talking and he just kept eating, which is a very big deal. Because no one ever ate with or blew up. Let's set the record straight here. Okay. So, Bachelor dates. There's food in front of you, but the reality is you have been fed right before you go.

Because nobody wants to watch TV of a person eating. Yes. and talking with their mouthful. You want to see the conversation between two people. And it drives me nuts when people are like, why aren't they eating? Why do you ever eat on dates? I'm like, would you really want to watch us just eating?

Like, chewing our food, making gross sounds instead of having conversation that we should be having. Right. Right. So the food is there for art department, you know? It's just beautiful to look at. It's a great problem. And then you eat it after when it's cold and you're all going home and you're like, I'm kind of drunk, I'm going to eat this.

Yeah. Not in their case because they're like, only had two days. This was lame. Right. But, you know what I mean? Like people, but anyway, so I thought that was super funny that he's eating. Because I'm like, yeah, he really, he was so bored. He was. Yeah. That's so sad.

And she was really, like, telling him things that were, like, really intense about her life. Yeah, and he was just, he didn't care. Well, she was trying to tell her, tell him everything about her life. Because you're in 30s. Yes. Because you're like, am I going to ever have another one on one? Right. You're like, is this my moment?

Do I tell him everything? Will he accept me for who I am? La-la-la-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And then you've got to know what a producer said before that. Tell him this and this, and that's just tell him whatever you feel. And she's like, I feel everything. So that's what I tell him. And that she came back in and was like, I'm embarrassed.

Like, yes. And then he was like, yeah, you should be. She knew she messed up and he had no, like, remorse. Empathy. It's not there. The empathy is not there with Ari. And hopefully that doesn't steer him away from doing my. podcast because I'd love to talk to him.

That's the most part. Is it being had empathy, maybe we'd have some of these other girls around. Maybe he has a totally different take than what we're saying. And like, everybody has, you know, I'm sure he has his weaknesses too. If he, what if he told her?

And she's like, oh, I'm out. He'd be like, wow, that is not somebody I want to marry. But he also said that weird thing, like, well, I know you love your family, so you should go home. That's an excuse. Like, let's do something better than that. I did use that excuse on someone. Well, if you have kids or something.

I get it, but yeah, yeah, you love your family. Oh, yeah, because you should go home. Who said it? Was it, Jade? She was like, I'm pretty sure we all love our family. Yeah, we all love our family. It's not a reason to go home. Yeah, that's my one. He's trying really hard, guys. Come on. No, I'm really. We're just saying the opposite end of the spectrum. I think what's going to happen, and this is usually, like you asked, you said, has there ever been a very, entertaining bachelor. I think at the beginning, there's so much personality on the

girl's end that the guy just kind of sits back and he's like, cool, 25 girls want me and I get to make out with all them and I don't really have to get to know I'm cool, let's get through them. Then when you really fall in love with the girls and the guys is when they have real relationships. So we'll wait. Take a knee. We'll wait. Take a knee. And you watch this and you're like, oh wow, we're on like, what, the fourth week and it is really dwindling. Yes. Yeah. And then that's when we'll all fall in love with everybody, yeah. Evan, you want to talk about bras? Always. Okay. Great, great news. Because when it comes to bra shopping, it's all about finding the right fit for you, not you, Carly. And there's only one

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In something Yes I this is in spinal tab waiting for guffman why do you win for your consideration yeah that's not anyone's what is that direction okay anyway we love anyways we love friends played Phil dumpy's father I'm Martin yeah shout out we're like that's so funny that's so funny but I did love them and best in show yes well you got to watch waiting for guffman okay text that to me yes I will okay thank you um so all i remember is fred we got to do the co-host with harrison which makes sense because he if you've seen best in show that really makes sense right harrison is really

funny yeah he always is yeah he had funny jokes dad jokes i love harrison i love harrison i mean i just love him i call him c h all the time i just love him like i feel like he hasn't gotten any screen time the past few seasons and like this this has been his season until like oh he's right yeah yeah yeah he's here yeah he's here Even during her wedding, he had funny jokes and, like, he was, like, making fun of us. And I was like, that is so funny. Yeah. Yes.

And then they don't show it. No, they do. Oh, yeah. It's so great. She was like, I never got real close with him. I'm like, you don't have time. Like, I got to actually, like, have some beers and, like, and he is a funny man. He's a funny man.

He's a funny guy. I'll tell you a story after this podcast because I can't. I can't say it. I can't say it. Anyways, what we're talking? Oh, and Emily's. Because she have her own second montage. Montage.

Annalisei. She called me out for not knowing how to spell her name, and now we shall call her Analiese. I like it. And she didn't respond to Viviana's going to be on the podcast today, but Anna Liasse. Oh, I know. What's their kind of name again?

Ben Higgins. Oh, the other one. What? Ashley I. Not Drew. the Dean's podcast. She was also on Ashina and Ben's. And not mine.

But we got bimbs later. Oh, really? I don't know what you say. Yeah. I see. Now let's see if we ever spell your name. I actually really enjoyed her. She's a montage. I enjoyed her, too.

I would have loved to talk to her, but she big-leaked me. But that's cool. We got bibs later. She's coming on. But, yeah, montage. I hope that's a new thing for the future seasons. That is one of, who ever came up with that, that was... It really takes you into the moment, yeah.

Was it the same girl actor from the bumper car trauma? I don't know. Yeah, it's anna liaising. A young Anna liaise. It really was her mom in this footage. It was like, you remember me going to a dayline episode. But, okay, so she, her fears were, oh, do you, here's my question. do you think or did you guys have to say your fears like you know how much paperwork you do

for going on the show and you have to answer like i mean 700 questions for like you know for the psych test and you want to be a librarian yeah my brother told me don't write down what you're really afraid of because they'll make you do it exactly i'm saying i'm like wait it's her name anna lee say did annalise say i'm afraid of bumper car and dogs and they're like boy do we have dates for you know what I think she probably said I'm afraid of everything I'm afraid of being yeah I'm afraid of being casted on the show and mostly Caitlin Bristol I feel like she she might be one of those people that has like some story about like everything like everything relates to a story you could be like hey

Here's a flower, and she's like, this one time of flower. Yeah. Did that, you know, like, I think maybe she's that. And that's super sweet. She's so, oh, yeah. She's saying maybe she has a lot of fears. Right. What she does.

Right. It's very apparent. But that's why I wanted to have her own because I genuinely. What? Trauma is no joke. It is no joke. Why are you trying to laugh? I'm not.

It's not bumper car trauma is. No joke. No joke. thing now. Well, if it isn't, if it wasn't, it is now. Yeah. And I'm sure she's open conversation and those who have the trauma can

You know, there reminds me one time when I. Oh my God. I just keep thinking that like, you know how there's like a phobia? Like there's all these like phobias. Yeah. Now they're going to come up with bumper carophobia. Pobia. Yeah. We're going to have this word now that's in the dictionary about bumper cars. Thank you.

You know, Lee. Say. Yeah. You did a good job. You created a new word. Good for you. please come on my podcast I love what we're dancing a lot of not being me but like please come yeah well because that's what I said I tweeted I said I want to give you a virtual hug

because everyone who listens to my podcast I'm not I'm not mean-spirited I just have sarcasm and there is a difference so then there's the cocktail party and we all know how cut throat those are did you ever have those moments like either one of you

where you're at the cocktail party and you're like can I I talk to them and they're like oh um I think there's somebody else in line so when you're like you know like that I just feel like it's a little bit dictated of yeah I agree and so you can't you can't really go over there until they kind of give you a window right most of the time so that's so okay let's get this out of the way he didn't want to kiss and a liaison okay I got to stop that she's probably like shut up Caitlin yeah I actually think it's beautiful um he walked her And our girl, Biviana,

Bibiana for Bachelorette and hashtag, set up a romantic little corner for Ari. And obviously, Ari doesn't know that. So he keeps taking girls there to eat their faces. I know he asked, he asked one of the girls, did you set this out? She's like, no, he was like, oh, okay. That is so, I mean, I used to be like, I remember I called myself the prop queen

because I brought props with me, like, to the show because I was like, if I had nothing to talk to him about, at least I have the this. And so I'd like make things or do you guys. Oh, yeah. I was like, as long as I have something in my hands to like piddle with, I got a conversation. Yeah. You know, so that's what's so sad is that she had set up this really big like conversation piece.

And then everyone's story. Carly started, partly starting a nonprofit to help girls for going on the bachelor. Oh, I mean, props over it. Well, it didn't work for me, but no, it did. help. It did work for you. Bigger picture, Harley.

Can we also go back to the kissing thing though? Because... Did you hear me? I said he was eating their faces. But here's what we discussed the other day while watching the show.

There's so much pressure to kiss. Yes. That you feel like if you don't, you're going to go home. So you're trying to make it happen. Mm-hmm. And like, I remember

I was like, you guys, going in for it, not I'm going home. Yeah. So I was like, here we go. Yeah. Like, I'm just going to do it. Yeah.

And I came back and I was like, I did it. Great. I don't think you're going home now, but there is so much pressure to do it. And whether it's natural or unnatural, you feel like there's like a checklist. Like, oh, he's kissed you. He's kissed you. If he hasn't kissed me, I'm like in the back. We're a weird concept.

Yes. And that's how you know people are moving forward. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, kissing bandit. That's why I said he lost his title there for a second. You know, it's bad when the kissing bandit doesn't want to kiss you. It's not the best.

It's not ideal. It's not ideal. But here's the thing. She's going to find a great guy. And Ari wasn't the one? No, he was not the one. She'll be on paradise, I guarantee it. Oh, hell yeah.

Like crab drama. Oh, wow. Yeah, that would be the new thing. I can handle the beach. And Claire is going to be like, I must. I've been taken over Oh man

Okay well Let's welcome Biviana to the podcast Here to tell her side of the story Yay Hi Bids Bids! It's us again Are we annoying you yet?

We're just waiting Evan's just filling up his champagne glass I just need to I just need to be tracking I mean whiskey. I mean, I'm like it. It's rosé, too.

Oh, it's rosé, cute. Okay, Bips, can you hear us? Yeah, I can hear you know. Okay. So, Bibbs, you're on grape therapy, and we are here to help you. First of all, I wanted to ask, is it okay, if I call you Bibbs because I know it's Bibiana. Actually, how do you actually pronounce it? It's Biaiana.

And then. So I feel like saying Bibi is the cutest. Do people call you that? Yeah. So it just depends because, like, my parents were from, I'm from Dominican Republic. So I primarily speak Spanish with them and they always say d-be, but then you are so cute and sexy. Yes, cute and sexy. What a combo are you, you fool.

You fool. Okay, so I wanted to ask you, how did the firecracker in you that we all know and love not come out with that wrestler lady? I don't know. I think at that point, I just didn't want to, like, feel any crazier than what I already felt, because I had... Yeah, I'll get that. So you were just kind of safe is what you're saying. Yeah. I had, like, this moment of craziness, and I just, like, I don't know, you see it.

They actually aired it where I just take a moment, I kind of look to the side, like, oh, shit. we were hoping well i was sitting there just being like oh she's going to just knock her out and this is going to be the best tv we've ever seen but but you kept it cool and i was proud of you i don't know how i did it and how hard was it to watch or did you watch are you taking all these girls to your sweet little romantic stargazing spot that you set up what did you know that was happening or were you like do to do i'll just wait for my turn were just waiting for the chance to talk to him and take him to the setup.

You were so gracious. You were so gracious. When you walked in and you were like, oh, I'm sorry. Like, that was so sweet. Like, you didn't have to be that sweet. And you were. And we love you for it.

We love that you're like fiery and like, but then you're also of this like super sweet sensitive side. Yeah. I'm like, I, already, you, well, I'll date you. Oh my gosh. Yeah, somebody's more. So Evan thinks you're The Bachelor that America needs and deserves, but we hear that you're going to be on our screens again for the Winter Games.

Can you tell us anything about that? I am really excited to watch it. I had a lot of fun. And as crazy as my experience was on The Bachelor, I think that Ari just wasn't really my guy. But then when you jump on to Winter Games, it's just more nice speed. Awesome.

I think so, too. Yeah, I'm excited. We're all really excited to watch you on winter games because here's the thing. I think you're too fiery for Ari, and I think he probably knew that. And I can't wait to see who you, even if it's winter games or just outside of the bachelor world, I just can't wait to see what man deserves you. Oh, yeah. Can you answer it if you're dating Dean right now?

Stop it, Evan. What is that thing? Oh, are you dating Deney-Dee-Dee-Dee-Dee's. Did you find love on Winter Games? You guys, she can't tell us this thing. Yeah, but that's the thing. It contractually you can't tell us, but I like to tease and pretend because then I can be like, oh, we ask bibs if she found love.

And then I'll be like, swipe up to listen. And then they'll be like, damn it, she didn't even say. And that's called marketing. I think God, Parley's there to talk some sense into these. So did you find love? I will say that. They did provide a really good lineup. Oh, I like that.

That's a good answer. Overall, did you have a fun experience on the Batsar? Are you happy you did it? And are you happy about our new friendship that I'm forcing upon us? Oh, my gosh, I'm so happy. This is unreal. It's weird because, like, you know, I had this really interesting experience where I went from The Bachelor and unfortunately, like, things didn't work out there or fortunately, right?

Because then as soon as that kind of ended, I got the chance to do winter games and none of that had, I hadn't seen anything from the Bachelor and like all of a sudden I, the year ends and now I'm seeing like my season with Ari and then now I'm waiting for winter games. Like, I, it's interesting because, like, I just lived a life, like, oh, the timeline is so weird. And my favorite thing, I, we spoke a couple days ago. And my favorite thing that you said was, is this going to work or not? Like, I got a job to go back to. Like, you can't exactly just take, like, two months off to figure this out. Like, are we doing this or what? Yeah.

I don't, I don't know. For me, it was something that was really real. Like, you know, you're not. If you're not connecting with someone, I kind of just thought, well, like, I really don't want to, like, take somebody else's thought that could be connecting with him, that maybe, you know, you're just kind of, like, taking the space and time. And, yeah, I just kept thinking about my, I'm not kept thinking, but I, because once you're there, you're just, like, completely, like, immersed in it. Oh, yeah. But it's reality, you know, like, I have a job. My thoughts was, like, was really nice to be, like, okay, nine weeks.

I know. That's not going to fly. Well, that's what we really liked about you was you seem very real. You're very passionate. And you were like, hey, this is real to me. And you didn't want to take up other people's time. And I think that's cool because it's like, guess what, Ari, it's a two-way street. You have to like him too, and he has to like you.

And I think you were very realistic about the whole situation. And at the end of the day, we're just pumped to see you on the winter games. Yes, we are. Oh, guys. um yeah i'm pretty excited to see all of that yeah and and will you ever be in nashville so we can have you actually in the studio i most definitely will um especially i want to visit well when you come let us know we'll take you for a couple cocktails get you all for a second day i thought you were going to say a podcast in the studio because uh we're big fans over here yay i thought you were going to say coffee

and I'm like, why would you say coffee? Cocktail is one like that. We would never do that. No, that ain't me. By the way. Thank you so much for calling in beds, and I will call you bids for the rest of my life. That sounds great.

You have a beautiful. Bye. Bye, bye, bye. She's so cute. Okay, I love her. Like, she's just got great energy. She does, and I look that she's genuinely, like, you tell she's just a sweetheart.

And then she's just got fireside, which I love because like don't mess I would love to her as well she has no choice but she's my friend now yeah but I think she'd be such a good friend because she's like I care and if you rub me the wrong way yes

three snaps um okay so this week we say goodbye to Annalise say Annalise we love you Viviana Bibi Bibbs and Lauren A, Bc or D-U-S what is it S? Predictions

man I still think that realtor Caroline gorgeous girl I think she's she's got to be I think also Becca with the K

Betty Boop I think she's going to go far because he's very intrigued I don't know that she's going to be last one standing but I do think she's the little cute picky She's like the reality check

Yeah I don't need you Oh I love it He's going to love that. He's like, oh, yeah. Well, I got to keep you around. He basically even said I like that. He's like, you're good.

Yeah, but I don't need you was the best line that's ever been dropped in Bachelor. Which is a little scary. So anyone that can say it in that moment is a little scary. I mean, that's- And she meant it. Who is, I mean, there's probably been like one or two people that have ever said something like that. I mean, I've thought it, but I don't say that. Yeah, I think we need more of his story.

Yeah, I need more. know more she's mysterious to him she's mysterious to us yeah and we need a little bit of yeah we need more time it's too early to call predictions but what we're saying is Caroline I met her in person I was like oh so you're like funny and really pretty cool great she came to watch my Broadway show really rooting for Caroline um we like Becca gosh we actually like both Becca's we do like both like yeah so Becca that had the um One-on-one, Rachel Zoe. Oh, right, right, right, yes.

He said, I miss you. I miss you. Right. Because he likes her. And then the mom. The mom. Yeah. And Crystal has to stay around, right?

Because there's a lot happening around her right now. So let's say those are the four, as of right now. Chelsea's mom, Crystal. We've had two bad guys. Oh. And then. What are we supposed to say? I don't know.

I can't remember. We said good things, though. I'll go. Carol. Maybe he's Caroline. You get our top five. Okay, top five. That's our top five.

Thank you for tuning to grape therapy. Thank you for being a part of great therapy. Carly and Evan. Carly, I felt the baby of your head today in your uterus. You did. We have a beautiful moment. We got very close today, Gail. You know what?

I didn't think we could get any closer from dating the same guy, but we did. We did. We did. We got. boundaries we never knew we would draw. Thank you for it. I can't wait for you to catch the baby when it comes.

I will be right there. Arms open. No, they need to be close. Very close together. I'm going to be singing with all a lot of calm. Really? No.

Just kidding. What a stupid way to end this podcast. Oh, God. Okay, you guys. Your session is now ending. Goodbye. Goodbye. Thanks for listening to Austin.

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