Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Bachelor Recap with Jason Tartick

Episode Date: February 25, 2021

It’s a classic recap with KB & J as they talk about this week’s Bachelor episode as well as recent drama happening within Bachelor Nation. They’re also sharing their dream celebs to grab a beer with, giving their thoughts on calling the paps on yourself, and revealing Kaitlyn’s former embarrassing go-to perfume. Plus, they give their next pick for Bachelorette! Do you agree? And, do you enjoy seeing Bachelor alumni on the show? Leave us a review and let us know! Kaitlyn and Jason give Matt an award for something he’s shockingly great at, and last but definitely not least, the two play a game of “How Do You Proceed?” which involves role-playing and awkward bathroom run-ins. Geico - Go to Geico.com, get a quote, and see how much YOU could save Springtime Supplements - Go to springtime.com/VINE to get free shipping on your first order and learn how you can save up to 50% BluBlox - Get free shipping worldwide and 20% off by going to Blublox.com/vine or enter code “vine” at checkout Best Fiends - Download Best Fiends free on the Apple App Store or Google Play MVMT - Join the MVMT and get 15% off today with free shippings and free returns by going to MVMT.com/vine SUS: Share Your Scare - Get new episodes every Wednesday on PodcastOne, Spotify, and Apple PodcastsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Good morning. Good morning. In case I don't see you. Good afternoon and good night. Great movie. That's a great. Trippy movie. Trippy?

Reminds me in The Bachelor. Why? Because it's like his whole life is being filmed and he doesn't know it. Yeah, but you know it on the batch. And it's, yeah, it's kind of like the band. And then they're like the brand placement. Oh my. God, we are living, like Truman Show.

Like the brand placement, like Peloton on The Bachelor. See? I saw a funny tweet from Brett. I never know how to say. Is it Vergara? I'm just terrible at pronouncing last names. But I saw him do a tweet like after the breakup, after Serena P left him in the breakup. Brett was like, I wonder how many Peloton rides he's going to do to feel better.

He's good. Yeah, Brett. I almost thought Brett Vergara's because I remember seeing an S in his name, but as in Instagram is Brett S. Vergara. Oh, there you go. Beauty. He is a beauty.

So obviously it's Thursday. So it's grape therapy, talking about hometown dates. We saw some skydiving gone wrong, witnessed a little Canadian heartbreak, and got to meet the remaining women's families. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but it was pretty relatively drama-free. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Interesting. Very interesting. Okay. Wait, before, we'll do a little quick catch-up before we dive into the Bachelor. Do you really think it was drama free? Or do you think there's just so much other drama or you're just like, I don't really care? Well, it was drama free and like there wasn't like the typical Bachelor drama. Like we're finally at the place where it's just heartbreak from here on out. You into the season? Yeah. I am. I'm, I really am actually. What? Why? You asked me and

it made me think, I don't know, am I? But I am. I'm into it. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to think of reasons I wouldn't be like it's I don't know I guess I feel like the same way every season I feel I'm just a broken record when I talk about the show I feel like this season there's been so much happening yeah so much drama and noise and controversy outside of the show I'm finding it very hard to get into this show speaking of controversy Matt finally made a statement about the Chris and Rachel interview on his Instagram did you see I did I just read it and it's so well written right so well said yeah that's what i think too he's a brilliant man honestly he is and he's just like that

like i's you know i've had lunch with them and i've seen him out before and he's just so articulate pick what up the name you just dropped dropping that james yeah i've had lunch with him i've had lunch with matt jane i'm joking is that a name drop no it was just me like i feel like that's I'm not just joking. Here it would be a name drop if I was like, I don't know. I was with Tom Hanks cousin, Tom Hanks. Wait, aren't you related to Tom Hanks? What was that about the other night?

Oh, no, I made a joke saying that. Oh, that I look like Rita Wilson. You look like Rita Wilson. Maybe you guys are related, if you're related. So I ask anyone out there, who is your dream like beer with? If you told me like, if I could have a beer or cocktail with one person, mine would be Tom Hanks. So I looked at the photo that I posted not too long ago. Caitlin and Rita, I'm like, oh my God, they look related in some capacity.

And then I figured if you guys were related in some weird way, I'm like somehow connected to Tom Hanks. And that chance, you're telling me there's a chance that I can have a beer or cocktail. I got it. I got it. Yours would be Britney Spears? Yeah, duh. Yeah, that's true.

I mean, I would love to grab a drink with B. Spears. Which one question you would ask her? Are you okay? You would ask a yes or no question? I would say, I'd want an open response. Yeah, that would call for one. Are you okay? Yeah, but then I would say elaborate.

No, I'm not. No, I'm not okay. Okay, tell me what's going on. How can I help you, Brittany? Britt, Brett. Can I rewind two seconds before he called me off for name-dropping Matt, which is funny. I had lunch with Matt before he was on the show. So anyway, I wanted to say any capacity that I've come across Matt, whether it's just

sitting at lunch with him and Tyler or it's on TV, he is the same. name. He is literally the same. So well-spoken, well-mannered, kind, energetic. He's got, you could just tell he's got such warm energy. That's what I put it. Like his energy is warm. You could see it through the screen. Yeah. And you can see it in person and it's consistent. I agree. And you know what really? Because you know how we see a preview for next week and Chris Harrison's like, are you okay? And he's like, no, I'm not. Wow, that reminded me with the Britney Spears conversation that is playing out of my head of what that would be like. But he's like, Chris Harrison's like, are you okay man he's like no i'm not i heard that matt's dad comes to the show and well this is a

rumor i saw it online so i don't know if it's true but i'm assuming it is his dad comes on the show who he doesn't really have a relationship with and i am so curious to see how that plays out because that might be a really beautiful moment interesting because that is right now i don't know anything in the background but i always remember him in always referring to his mom yeah he doesn't He doesn't have a relationship with his dad. He doesn't have a relationship at all. I don't think so. Interesting.

Yeah. So I am very curious about how that. I hope it's like a really sweet moment that changes his life for the better. Now, what's the next episode? Is the next episode Women tell all? Women tell all. Yeah. And so what are they doing with women tell all?

I don't know. I don't know why, but chicks in the office did a tweet that said like they're not excited for a women tell all at like at all. And I'm like, is that sarcasm or seriously? I don't know. Ew, it's going to be. Oh, I know why it's not exciting because all we're going to see is freaking Victoria. And I'm over it. God.

Okay, other Bachelor Nation news, Claire and Dale have been seen frolicing around Florida and clearly back together. They're kissing, taking photos. What do you think went down behind the scenes? Because they seem done done. Like, over, done. Claire seemed heartbroken. Dale seemed like a douche. I mean, this is all behind the scenes seemed to that way.

What the heck is going on? I mean, I don't have a damn clue. What I'll say is I think I have two thoughts. One, everyone just leave these people, leave them alone. Just let, like, I don't think they want to be left alone. They're frolicking on the beaches. So that was my second. Like, part of me has a feeling for them.

I'm like, if they're trying to like work it out, that was like one opinion in my brain. Work it with my left shoulder. Work it out. Like, just leave them alone. The second right part of my shoulder is like at this stage, at this level, with this relevancy just coming off the show, you know exactly what you're doing when you're going out to pools, to the beach, and to restaurants. Which is fine if they were.

But my thing is, is like, if you're putting that out there, if that's really what's happening, like you're getting back, you better be back together. And you better share it with us and stop doing these little sneaky photoshoots. You know what you're doing. And the other thing is, is one thing I never knew anything about until I got in this world. And I've never, ever done it. and we refuse to do it. Called a paparazzi?

Yeah. I didn't realize how many people do call paparazzi on themselves. I know. But this happens at the A-List level, too. Oh, I know. This happens at, like, the highest level. A little inside scoop here, a little trading secret, is that people will wear certain brands,

like an A-list celebrity, will wear certain brands through their stylist. They will know where they're going to be. It's all planned. It's all set up. Paparazzi gets them. And then that photo gets sent to all the big magazines. and just for that photo, they'll get paid tons of money. Now, I have no idea that that has anything applicable.

Got talked to low, if that is anything applicable to do with Clare and Dale. But part of me is like, everyone just let them freaking go. Let them try and figure it out. The other part of me is like, why are you guys doing all this in public? Like, why don't you just go, like, close the door and like talk it out, see if it works. And if it works, get back together. Maybe they have. But you can't keep flip-flop.

But maybe they have had that. And now they're out in public. and they're like, well, we are back together. We've already had the closed door conversations and what do you think? Do you think they should be like, what are your thoughts? I honestly am like rooting for them. I always have been and I, I always love, maybe this comes from having divorced parents where you like love the love story of people breaking up and then the idea of them

getting back together because you're like, they couldn't stay away. I love that for them. Maybe I'm rooting for them. I feel like I want them to work out. Yeah. I just want them to be happy. I genuinely do. Yeah, that's nice.

I think so, too. Something on my brain. What were we just? I will say if it gets, wasn't he, I hate rumors? Because I don't think there's like any proof or anything, but there was alleged rumors. Yeah. Let me just define and underline rumors that he was cheating. Yeah, I don't think so.

No, it looks like, yeah. Every time a guy comes off that show and like he could, didn't you have someone or like, I just remember if you could have lunch with your cousin. And people will say. Yeah. So I hope that. I honestly hope that they work out. But the other thing is, like, if you're going back in public now,

you better be serious about it is my whole thing, right? Yeah, sure. You don't think so? Otherwise, it looks like you're just doing it for attention. Do you think Zara are like Clare's? You don't know what Clares is, do you? Yeah, the jewelry. Oh, yeah.

Do you think they would like pay me to be seen at Kroger? Like if I'm wearing Claire's jewelry and Zara. What's a Zara? I could be wrong, but like I feel like Zara and Claire's are totally different levels. like isn't clairs like i remember getting my 14 year old girlfriend like clares like bracelets for valentine's like i still shot i just laughing because these big

huge i'm obsessed with zara that's what i wear that's what i'm talking but that's what i'm you're clairs i did when i had my nose pierced remember you had that perfume i'm like this literally smells like like a clare's perfume from i was in seventh grade it was it was it was like cotton candy bubble gum or something yeah it was delicious

What are you wearing? Yeah. And there was in the little plastic bottle that you spray on yourself. Yeah, it was delicious. I actually still have four bottles because you can only get it in Canada. And my dad shipped me some. And they're still sitting there. I think it smells great.

Whatever. Anyways. Anyways. Did you even watch this episode? No. I'll give you a little breakdown. You know that I cried over Michelle's dad. I think it's good that I didn't watch it, actually, because I could get perspective.

I heard you talk about Michelle's dad. I before this whole thing, I am obsessed with Michelle. Yeah, me too. She is awesome. Yeah. I loved it with the, I always liked her and I loved her in that. But then like after the rose ceremony before hometowns, I watched that episode, when she was like chirping, she starts doing the push-ups. I'm like, this girl is awesome.

Yeah. Make her The Bachelorette. Yeah. I agree, actually. Now, there's rumors that Katie was going to be the Bachelorette and is now no longer. Shut up. Yes. According to Mr. Steve.

Not-uh. Yeah, that's what I saw. that she was picked to be it and now she's not is what he had reported. That's so sad. You like prepare mentally and like you think you're going to be the bachelor your life's going to change. You're going to meet the love of your life on TV and then they're like actually.

So who now are they saying? I have no idea. No way. There's so many question marks who will be the next host. Who will be the next bachelorette? Will there be a next bachelorette? Will Caitlin Bristol be in the game? No.

You don't think so. What do you mean in the game? I don't know. I feel like you're tight with ABC. Well, I mean, I could be in the... I'd like to see more Caitlin Brist on TV. That's sweet of you. Yeah, you do.

I miss dancing with the stars. I do too. It was awesome. I used to get like all fucked up on Monday nights, but it was the best because Monday's used to like, Monday suck. Like you just like work all day. And then I would just get like three o'clock, boom, let's go. Me and Lo would just go.

Oh, I do miss that. So we'd pregame it. It's like, all the best. Yeah. It was so fun. And then you'd come home and we'd celebrate. We'd get like sushi. But I, I was so exhausted.

I, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm, But in the game, it's because they always bring back bachelors and bachelore to have conversations and be like a little mentor for somebody. I was really thinking it was Katie. Wow, I did not know that news. Do you think, I know I've taken this way off topic, but do you think like enough of bringing back all the alumni? No.

I only say that because I'm one of them. Yeah, no, but I know, same. I am, but like just like hit refresh. Like get a, I don't know. I think people like to see familiar faces. I do. I like to see familiar faces. I love when Wells is on the TV. I like when they bring back other. I get pissed when Wells is on TV because I love him so much. He never gets in like he spends so, he probably sat in the bubble for a month. He's there. He's probably saying

the funniest shit ever. And they ended it all out. It is. So you, that's another thing. I'd love to put out there and get people's thoughts. Maybe it's in the comments on whatever you post or Twitter. Like, do we want to keep seeing alumni on these shows like the same people over and over? but you're put you I'm asking though but the way you're presenting it is like well does the viewer no because most people would probably be like hell yeah put Caitlin Bristol

no no no not just me no but I'm just I'm curious what the actual opinion is of majority of like bachelor nation well I feel like I I was never a person at the beginning of this podcast maybe I said it twice but I've never like please leave a rating and a review and I didn't realize how much that actually helps

your podcast so maybe you guys should leave a review in the Apple podcast Yeah, as a numbers guy, anyone that's listening here, if you could give Caitlin five stars in a nice review. I just don't like pushing people to do that. I know, but that's really, really, it's helpful. It helps, it helps push your show to get more people watching. It helps the algorithm. And it also gives good feedback.

Okay. So please don't give anything less than five stars. How about this? If you're going to give direct feedback, put it in there, but give five stars. Yeah. Have Caitlin's team rip it up. There you go. and implement the feedback. It's all just for me to be better for you, listeners.

We are going all over the map with this little show we got going here. That's okay. It's, I'm just, like, just really, Michelle's great. Her dad was incredible. You were jealous of Serena. They did a, well, wait, they did a, they did a really cute Zoom call because Michelle's a teacher and they had her students, which I wonder if they were her students or if they were hired actors, like little kid actors to ask like, are you going to marry her? Have you guys kissed? Like, what's going on? But it was so awkward because they're like, are you going to give her? a rose and he goes well we'll have to see you what happens i'm like oh my god yeah but what's he supposed to

say yes to the kids okay i don't know that like as a lead you can't do that right aren't there unwritten rules you can't say you're committing a rose to someone i guess so he did say he's open to moving to minnesota so anyways rachel her next date they meet the family i'm trying to remember if there's anything really memorable from oh rachel's date she jumped out of a plane and landed sword. She, like, messed up her face. Whoa, seriously? Yeah, she landed really, really hard and was like... Was she, like, bleeding? No, she just... I mean, you should see the tumble. It was pretty bad. Okay. So, can you do this for me? And if you can't have to have to have to have, I'm sorry to do this. But this is one thing when I was on hometowns that pissed me off.

Because you just said skydiving. And then, like, I hated that, like, some dates were these, like, extravagant things. So, like, I remember when I always, like, I tell Blake about this. Like, Blake's date. He got. got Becca's fate, I'm blanking on the name of her, but her favorite musician was there, this huge life concert. And I just remember, like, their dates were extravagant. And then I got to eat chicken wings. I was like, what that? We had a chicken wing eating contest. That's like your happy place. No, I know, but I'm just like, did you, so it's a question.

Did you, so skydiving seems like badass crazy, crazy date. Did you find that all those dates had an extreme type cool thing? Was there a concert? No. there wasn't a concert wait who is the final serena no Michelle no Rachel no who's the other oh Bree no no concerts so was the only like obviously it's they'd have to fly horrible Michelle doing the thing with her with her class I think that's awesome but was there anything like like wild or extravagant just just the skydiving I hate that well

everyone should get like a cool experience freaking poor Serena P had to be like it was the most stereotypical, like, stupid what people think of Canada, like, oh, let's eat beaver tails and sing the national anthem and ask how many points are on the Canadian flag. Like, I was like, do better. But also, I was jealous because I never got a Canadian hometown date and I always wanted, they got to play hockey. I guess I got to play hockey in Iowa, but it wasn't my hometown date. Anyways, yeah, that was pretty much the most exciting one was the skydiving.

I want to go skydiving. And then Serena P. left. She walked Matt out of his own show. She said, he goes, no, he gave her the option. Do you want to walk me out? They kind of like laughed. Well, Serena. Oh, she said that to him. Yeah. Well, Serena was the one on the yoga date who like wasn't into anything from a physical chemistry perspective with Matt. Yeah. Wasn't that kind of obvious? Yeah. I thought she was going to go home that night because I felt like even through the screen, you could see there wasn't consistent energy. She didn't seem smitten. Yeah. So I'm not surprised by that. Are you like when you watch this episode about?

Were you surprised by that? No, no. This show before, I wasn't surprised. No, I wasn't surprised by that. And then he said he tried to give Serena P. Like the confirmation because he probably thought, oh, she just needs, you know, a little reassurance. But she was like, no, you're just, she goes, you're not my person.

I was like, oh, ye. That hurts. That's the burrow. It always makes me sad when the lead gets their heartbroken because I'm like, oh, you probably don't see that coming. You probably think you're, you know, like you're the one breaking hearts. Yeah. I think Matt could win the award for the best breakup guys.

of all time. Yeah, I agree. His way of breaking up is like the smoothest thing I've ever seen the human do. Yeah. It's incredible. Like there hasn't been one, oh, actually, Victoria kind of went at him, when she didn't get the rose memory. Yeah. Other than that, best breakup guy of all Bachelor history is what I'm calling. Do you want to play my favorite game? Sure. It's called How Do You Proceed? Does it work? You know how it works. Okay.

Well, then I wouldn't ask how it worked. I'm going to ask you to put yourself in Matt's shoes. I've never played this game. Oh, you haven't? I thought I played this with you. No. Oh, I'm going to ask you to put yourself in Matt's shoes and let me know how you would proceed with the following situations if you were the lead.

Okay. If I was the lead. Okay. It's hometown. This is weird. Why? Because, like, I'm the lead with 30 other girls. My girlfriend's asking me how to proceed.

Yeah. You would do this. He's very Caitlin Briscoe. I think it's funny. Friscoe. I just said Briscoe. Oh my gosh. That's what your dad says.

You're warm in this room? It's really warm. Yeah. It's really warm. It's like a sauna. It's you, but I'm very cold, I'm cold-natured. Yeah. And I like being cozy.

Oh, yeah, but. Oh, yeah. For sure. Okay, I'm going to ask you to put yourself in match shoes and let me know how you'd proceed with the following situations if you're the lead. Okay. It's hometown week. You're excited to meet your remaining women's families.

On your first date, your potential wife's dad pulls you aside to have a one-on-one chat. He asks you a few questions that you were expecting. But then he asks you, if you plan to have to have, have sexual relationships with his daughter during Fantasy Sweet Week. How do you proceed? Wow. Seriously? Seriously.

I would spin it. You would spin it. I would say, I would, well, I mean, here's how I'd spin it. There's a reason you brought that up. So what, you know, what is it, like, what is it that made you think about that? Is it, like, I would want to know, like, where is that coming from a place of protection? Is that coming from a place of faith? Is that coming from a place of, like, if you do it?

have sexual relations with my daughter before you get married you're you're not welcome in this family that's a good that is a good way to proceed where it's coming from okay and what if he said um it's a protection thing if he said it's a protection over my daughter yeah and so you would say i'd i'll wear a condom the protection thing for you then i'll protect myself yeah we'll do we will make sure no i don't know it's a tough position i don't think it would ever happen well of course it wouldn't it's hypotheticals oh what would you do i would say yeah right just go the next question i hate this game i'm sweating it's your next hometown date and even though you thought the worst was over with you might be wrong you show up to meet a remaining contestant's mom dad and close friend you walk

in the door and realize right away that you had a drunken hookup with the friend years ago how do you proceed how do you proceed yeah you personally how would you proceed man good to see you i think i think the whole idea with that is like remove awkwardness but would you say to the lead would you be like i hooked up with your friend would you say i thought i was the lead yeah oh sorry would you say to her what do you think constructive would come from that well because you don't want to not be honest and then her find out later and then be like why wouldn't you tell me that i think it's i think that's such a customized thing like some people would what like like for example in my situation yeah so like if it was you i wouldn't want to know

assuming that there's no feelings or anything like i don't want to know who you're like that's not in my business as long as in this relationship currently there is no vibe or anything oh my god i would want to feel stupid they had to know yeah but we've talked about that before we both agreed that you wouldn't it's just not i guess okay so you would just say good to see you and then you wouldn't bring it up yeah if it was brought if it was made a situation i went I would lie about it, but I don't think there's a reason. Okay. As if hometown dates couldn't be any more awkward on what you think is the perfect

hometown date, you get up to go to the bathroom and walk in on your potential wife's mom completely naked while taking a number two. You make eye contact with her and quickly shut the door trying to figure out what to do next. How do you proceed? I think you just, oh, like, you all like, hey, I'm sorry about it. I think a situation like that, you're just like, it's, this was awkward. I apologize. Oh, my God.

question. What? If you open the door, okay, whose fault is it? Is it her fault for not locking the door or is it the lead's fault for not knocking? You're in the bathroom. Why do you always have to find loopholes? Because I think about this all the time. I've had this argument with buddies before. What about this exact thing? No, not the woman naked thing, but like if you are in the bathroom and someone walks in, is it the person in the bathroom's fault for not locking the door or is it the person that walked in for not knocking? Go back and forth with this a lot. It's the person's fault for not knocking.

Really? Yeah. Because I think the lock. No, because. Because think about how many times the tours are called. Like you're at a home. But sometimes there's not a lock. Sometimes the lock doesn't work.

It scares me all the time. Yeah. Yeah. I guess. Anyways, next one. You made it pass the awkwardness that is hometowns. You're on a fantasy suite. When the cameras are finally off and you're alone with one of your frontrunner,

she asked if you could roll play together. She will be herself and you will be Chris Harrison how do you proceed? I mean role play like I don't get like sexual role play Yeah like you have to pretend to be I don't think there's anything wrong with sexual role play Yeah, I think it's great what? Yeah no I think it's like I think any like yeah like so I have one friend and he him and his girlfriend are like in the role play I think it's I'm like gonna cry no no no no no no I think it's like I've never in my life done. role play ever ever ever but i think it's like kind of intriguing like good for them like that's i think that's cool that they're like they're like so comfortable with each other that they're trying out different things sexually or they're so bored with each other that they want them to

be someone else because that's what would turn them on or no i think it's just like they obviously have such a deep connection that if they're if they can do like role play and continue to open themselves up sexually with one another that's going to connect them more like fuck yeah you are Such a Scarpeo. You're such a Scarpeo. So if you, if one of your friends told you that her and her husband have role play, you would like look down on them? I wouldn't look down on them. I would be like, what's wrong in your relationship that you don't want to just have sex with each other?

Well, that's, yeah, but it's like they're trying fun things. Like good for them. Spice it up. No? You don't think it's good for people. Like, they're married. He was a delto. Spice it up with a delto.

Well, maybe some people like toys. Some people like role play. Ew. You really like role play. I've never. I swear to God. And my grandfather's grave, I've never done real play. But you want to.

But I think it's cool. Like I think, no, no, no, no. I think, I'm learning way too much right now. No, I think that, like, when my buddy told me that, like, him and his girlfriend, loyal, they're committed. And they find ways to like, if that's what does it for him, fuck yeah. I think it's great that they're on the same page like that. Okay. I am not suggesting a little play.

I'm saying I'm so uncomfortable. I want to come, what a couple tells me. So you would, they're dating and they're married or whatever. and that like it's a way that they like i don't i think it's good for that so what you're saying is you would role play be chris harrison with your girl in the fantasy suite i'm talking about role play in general not this specific scenario wow i learned something new about you today would you learn that you think role play is cool no you're not getting my point but you would want to roll play with me i think the idea of who did you want me to be who did you want me to be i'm not

this conversation. I'm not. I'm not articulating this well, I don't think. And maybe if I, maybe out there, what would you want me to role play? The question I will, I will end this with. If one of your friends who is married or in a serious relationship told you that like

sexually they have great chemistry and like one thing they do is role play, would you think that's bad? It's weird. It's good. I think it's weird. I think it's great for them. And here's why I think it's great. Okay, fine. It's great for them. Not because I like role plays the coolest thing ever or whatever. I think it's great for them because they're so connected that they're finding like different fun things that are

keeping them like super connected sexually and if it's role play it's role play if it's toys as toys who care like whatever good for them oh my god you're so new york right now you're like italia bibbidi babbidi but but i have a problem with this i like i just can't believe you think it's why holding the mic like here i think it's i just think it's i just think that The question I'll ask everybody is if they had a girlfriend or boyfriend, they're in a relationship. And they said, like, yeah, we role play. Like, do you think it's bad? Like, if you have two options, is that bad?

I'm not judging. Do you look down and you look up like, cool. I'm not judging someone for it. I'm not like, you sicko, weirdos. I'm just like, what is happening that you want to be somebody else in the bedroom? Like, why don't you want to have sex with your partner? Why do you want them to be someone else? I mean, we would have to get like a psychologist to do a deep dive on like the role play thing.

Yeah, I would love to. Yeah, like, I don't know. Is it like fantasy? Is it like, I have no idea. That makes me sad. I don't, Caitlin, you're not everyone, it's everyone else listening to me. I am not sitting here saying I want role play. I'm saying, if I have a friend that told me they had roleplay or not, I would look up.

I would look good to. I would think it's like, that's great that you guys express yourself sexually and you're so open that you can do things that make each other happy and whatever. Great for your good. Okay. I don't think it's like looked down upon it. Now, all the ladies listening, if all the ladies listening, if your boyfriend, significant other, was sitting there saying roleplay is cool and you didn't know that out of your two years of dating, would you be like, what? I'm not saying it's cool.

I'm saying for my friend, I think it's great that they have that. Okay. They've identified. So you don't want a role play tonight? No. Okay. Great. Yeah.

Okay. You do though. I absolutely do not. I've never done in my life. Why would I want to do something I've never done? Because you think it's cool. I'm just kidding. Okay, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Okay. Why do I do these podcasts? Every time I'm just like I walk away. Like how did I get trapped into this shit? Okay, fine. You're not the lead anymore and I have one more for you. Can we please done with this game? Nope. Okay. Okay, fine. My palms are sweating. Fine. Just do the last one. But I could pass. I get the option. Nope. No pass. What do you mean? We're just about to end it. Okay. This is it's the end of. I actually do have a meeting in 15 minutes. I know. One thing and then we'll do a wrap up.

It's the end of a long week. You're finally getting to go to your favorite Nashville restaurant with your incredible girlfriend, who is me now. We're not role blind anymore. It's me. We get to one of our favorite places and we're checking in when we see one of my exes sitting at the bar. He doesn't know we've seen him yet. We still have time to make a run for it.

How do you proceed? I don't see. I don't care about that stuff. Great. Like, actually, it's in the past. Yeah. So if you're at a bar next there, why would we're, like we're there together? who cares i don't care if there's 15 x is there it's you're dated them it's done we're there

we're sitting down there together with one another we had to start to our relationship we're in our relationship it doesn't matter okay so everyone has a next everyone's got a past like who cares not me that's for sure yeah so i love your ex-girlfriend be Becca she's great okay anyways let's wrap it up you um have some stuff coming up tell us this I do this forever guest. Tell us where we can find you. Just kidding. Tell me what's going on in your world.

All right. So a lot of fun stuff going on. The coolest thing is that I just executed a deal in which I'll have equity stake in a new financial tech app that's coming out. So obviously there has been some serious trouble with companies like Robin Hood. And so what this company is doing is there has been we have raised millions of dollars. Yeah. And we're looking to launch in the next month or two.

And so we will be fully certified through FINRA in eight states. So it looks like the first role is going to be Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Washington, Oregon, Virginia, and Nevada. Okay. And so this app is going to have everything from banking to investing. It's going to have a university for finance where you can actually learn what some of this stuff is. There's going to be budgeting tools, everything to help the average consumer out with anything finance related. And so very shortly here, I'll be announcing my equity stake that I'm a member of the company

and we are going to be doing an exclusive access. So I think we're only going to allow 250 people in it first. So if anyone out there hears something like this and it rings with them or they're interested, I would say shoot an email over to restart at Jason Tartick. we'll get you on the waiting list. But I am really, really excited about this app. I think it's going to create huge, huge waves in the market. We already have a ton of investors lined up for Series A and Series B.

That's how you raise capital to continue to grow. And it could be a life-changing venture. So I'm super excited about it. Yeah. That's life-changing opportunities are always exciting. Yeah. That's cool. I love that you get to do things that, like, align so much with what you know and love

and you don't have to sit at a desk for. Exactly. And the thing, like I just hate to, I've already bashed enough, but I had an opportunity to work with Robin Hood and I passed on it given what had happened. And I think that it's really important that no matter what you're doing, buying a car, buying a home, anything that there's more representation for like the average consumer, that you, the average consumer understands the ins and outs of what they need to know to make the best decision for them, not for the big company that's selling to them. I'm really proud of this app because it walks you through step by step exactly what you're doing and how you're doing. There's no manipulation. And it's just, it's a really, really great, great app with unbelievable founders. And so I'm excited about to talk more about it once it comes out. Well, excited to learn more about it. Thank you for always doing these with me.

Thank you. My hands are sweating. I'm sweating. Is it because it's hot in here or because we talked about role play? All that stuff. I hate these games. You got to be shitting me. I can't believe you have all these guests and you put them in these scenario.

Yeah, I love it. And I can't wait to talk about this over wine with you tonight. Actually, Matt told me when I did see him, another name drop apparently. Jason. When I saw him, he told me that of all the interviews he's done, every interview, every podcast. And obviously, you're talking hundreds at this point in the last couple months. He had the most fun being interviewed by you. That's so nice.

You're very good at what you do. That's really nice. And thank you for sharing that with me. He probably says that to everyone because he's such a nice guy. I don't know. He seemed really, it seemed very authentic. Anyways, I had fun with you this last. Ooh, can we have Matt is the host?

I'm scared. Matt would be such a good host. Of The Bachelor? Yeah. I agree with that. Oh my God. Yeah. Matt for host.

Okay. I'm into that. I think that should be a female, but sure. Okay. So who do you think? what you should be. I don't know. I have a lot of thoughts on that actually. Okay. Love you. Thank you for doing this. Yes. Love you too. Thank you for having me. And thank you to everyone listening. Such a blast. As I see sweat pouring down here. I gotta go.

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