Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Bachelorette Recap (breaking news edition) with Robyn Schall
Episode Date: July 8, 2021Longtime Bachelor fan, part-time news anchor, and full-time comedian Robyn Schall joins Kaitlyn on the mic to dive into this week’s episode of The Bachelorette. Robyn comes camera ready as ...always with lipstick and hoops, sans shower. Speaking of serving looks, they discuss Kaitlyn’s blue power jumpsuit at this week’s Rose Ceremony and get a little behind the scenes of what body part may have been exposed off camera while in that jumpsuit. Kaitlyn and Robyn take a trip down Bachelor memory lane, get into their favorite moments of this week’s episode including Cuddlefest 2021, and Robyn shares who would get her final rose this season (at least for one night). Plus, they play a game of hypotheticals where we find out what a season starring Robyn could look like… spoiler alert: it may not involve a lot of clothing. You can find Robyn Schall on IG at @robynschallcomic. HYUNDAI - Learn more at hyundai.com. CROCS - When you want to look amazing and stay seriously comfortable, head to crocs.com to get your pair today! AWAY - Start your 100-day trial and shop the entire Away lineup of travel essentials, including their best-selling suitcases, at AwayTravel.com/vine GEICO - Go to geico.com and in 15 minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance. OXICLEAN - Go to oxicleancoupons.com and claim your coupon todaySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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All right, welcome to Great Therapy. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now starting
and don't begin to think. I wasn't going to have my news anchor slash co-host, the hilarious
Robin Shaw on for a newsflash, Bachelorette, Breaking News Edition. I always 100% need her take on what's
going down and her predictions for what's to come because she is a forever bachelor fan. We do a little
walk down Bachelor Memory Lane to recap some of her favorite and not-so-favorant contestants
and seasons, and we overcome the major bromance between Greg and Connor that, I don't know,
maybe they win the season. Katie stirring the pot by allowing Blake in, and then putting him on
the first one-on-one, which we also break down because at the end of the day, we think it's kind
of smart, so you'll hear why. Anyways, it's all in the name of fun, so grab your favorite grape
juice and enjoy the ridiculously funny stuff that comes out of Robin's mouth as much as I do.
Bachelor at Breaking News starts now.
Hi, you try these little red lips in the whiteboard.
I didn't shower today, so I put on,
or I put on some red,
like, I'm still wearing what I slept in.
So I figured like, you know,
put on some lipstick and maybe Caitlin won't notice.
And then I put up the news flash,
even though I don't have news today.
But it's still a part of your brand.
Here's the thing.
I feel like half the thing,
is to show up and then figure it out as you go.
Gosh, you or me.
I put on some lipstick.
I got the sign.
That makes me so happy that I'm not alone because usually I do the same thing.
But I've just gotten to a point now where I don't even put on lipstick.
Like, I did a workout before this.
So I feel like that counts for something that I was like at least moving.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But I am going to try your trick next time.
I'm just going to show up with red lips and hoops and be like, I didn't shower.
Oh, yeah, the hoops are big, too.
The red lip, okay, for everyone listening, if you want to fool people and they're thinking
you're like really trying, put on hoops and a red lip, and it looks like you're like,
ooh, even if you're wearing sweats.
It's true because I feel like it's so in right now to do the whole like sweatsuit
with lipstick because app leisure and like casual, like leisure suits are so in that
you pop a red lip and a pair of hoops and it's like, actually, you could probably go out
and get photographed by the paparazzi like that
and they'd be like, she's so chic.
Yeah, I've been doing this for the last 30 years
and everyone caught up to me.
You're so ahead of your time.
Yeah, like five years ago,
I was wearing sweats and hoops
and people are like, Robin.
What's wrong?
Yeah, like, stop.
Worried about you?
Or like, I'd be drinking in the middle of the day
and they're like Robin, and now it's so on trend,
like moms are doing it, teachers.
You're like so European.
I feel like Europeans
have the, like, craziest style that no matter what they do, they just get away with it and they drink
casually in the day and you're just, again, ahead of your time. Yeah. I feel like when I, my video went
viral, some people are like, oh, you're just like us, like in sweats, like, because the pandemic.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no. This is definitely not pandemic sheet right now. This is Robin Sheik
doing it for years. Exactly. Exactly. Your time has come. How are you? I am, I'm, I'm,
So good. I'm a little bit just like all over the map. But I feel like that's hard for the course for my life. I'm always just like, like I say on every podcast. I function in chaos. And that's what I'm doing right now. And I'm so good. Like I enjoy it being crazy and I make things happen and I still get things done. And I don't know how I do it. I mean, I'm totally jumping ahead. Sorry, this is like me, but your outfit at the rose ceremony this week. Oh, my blue power suit. Oh my God. Did they let you keep that?
I wish. They did.
And I'll tell you something.
Actually, this is kind of embarrassing, but funny, and this is the place to tell embarrassing stories.
But I had that on, and it was, like, I had to hike it up pretty high because to cover the boobs, not like they're big or anything, but I had to cover them.
And I had the worst camel toe in that outfit that I had to, like, roll up toilet paper and shove it in down there just so it was like even because it was like, like my vagina lips were hungry eating that jumpsuit.
so I had to put something in there to...
Oh, my God.
I said vagina lives.
Ew!
What are you supposed to say?
I don't know.
I was talking about this with my girlfriend because we read this article about how you should speak to your kids.
Like, you should definitely call it a penis and a vagina because it makes it like more normal to talk about.
And people are like, why are we making up these weird words?
And I'm like, there's just something I, like, I can't believe I just said it out loud because I just usually call.
it like a wee, which is so much worse.
You know what?
I don't think so.
I think whatever you say is fine.
You do?
Yeah, because I say sometimes like, you know, think of my jig or like the girls
yenge, dinga, linga, dinga, you know.
Oh, that's a lot.
That makes it sound like a lot's going on down there.
Oh, there's a lot going on down there.
I always call it a pintess.
No, my girlfriend, cat calls it a pintas, and then I picked up on that.
And I don't think it's so funny.
Wait, is that for a boy?
Like a penis?
Yeah, a penis.
Yeah, a penis.
And what do you say for?
A wee-wee.
A wee-wee's for a girl?
Yeah.
No, a wee-wee's a penis.
Oh.
Well, then what do you call for a girl's?
My sister calls it a lily.
I just call it, well, I do say vagina or I say, you know, my thingy.
I don't know.
But I also, my mom, dad didn't do the sex talk and say the proper word.
Yeah. That's, I'm trying to remember if my, I feel like my mom did. I feel like she was very proper about it and I still can't say it right. And I need to maybe grow up a little bit. But I just, at the end of the day, thank you for saying that about my jumpsuit. Because I was like, I did not get enough of a TV moment in that jumpsuit. But then I have to remember it's not about me. It's about Katie. And I'm just lucky to get any screen time. First off, the jumpsuit spoke for itself. You didn't need, it did have a moment just now. I took notice of the jumpsuit. I'm, so if I, I,
I did. Everyone did. Okay, yeah, I did get a nice amount of compliments on that. And it was
funny because Katie was in red, Tasha was in white, I was in blue, and it aired the day after
4th of July, which we did not plan. We all walked down and we were like, oh, we are the USA.
And we didn't mean to. And then the fact that it aired right after that, I was like, wait,
what are the chances? That was crazy. Well, actually, all three of you looked amazing. Like,
wait, it wasn't a jumpsuit. It was a, it was a suit, right? It wasn't a jumpsuit, right?
It was a romper.
I was a wamp.
It was a one piece.
Yeah, it was one piece.
And then Tasia had the power suit, which I loved.
And then that was one of my favorite dresses, Katie wore with the, like, chains on the leg with a red dress.
Like, the guys were freaking out over that dress.
Yeah.
All three of you, like, this is, I mean, usually like one person's outfit, but here was like, all three of you look stunning.
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Now back to Off the Vine Grape Therapy.
Wait, behind the scenes question.
Let the people know.
Did any of the guys flirt with you and Tasia?
No.
They really didn't.
And I think for two reasons.
It's like we're supposed to be like, obviously like this role of coming in and just helping Katie.
And I think they really only saw us that way because we didn't see them.
Like if they were going in the hallway somewhere, we couldn't just go out in the hallway and like shoot the shit with them or be like, hey, in passing.
And, like, we, they would be on walkie-talkies being like, Kate, I'm walking with Caitlin.
And they don't really see us.
So I think they thought of us as these like, like, mythical, is that what I'm trying to say?
Yeah.
That were, like, came in only for a hot minute and we were there to like hype up Katie.
And, you know, Katie is the center of attention.
And they were all so into her that they didn't even flinch.
Right.
Okay.
Because I'm always like, I mean, because both you and Tash are beautiful.
I mean, so is Katie.
But it's like, you never know what someone's Tate.
So it's like, you know, you put three beautiful girls in front of a bunch of men.
They may be like, oh, although it could be the opposite back when Chris was the host.
The girl can be like, oh, much more into the host than this.
I guess it could always happen.
I mean, you've been a fan of the show for how long?
Like since season one.
Right.
So haven't you heard the stories that like a camera guy fell in love with one of the contestants
and broke his leg because he jumped out of a window trying to not get caught
hooking up with her?
so like those feelings can happen and it has in the past so yeah and like i've heard some
other gossip but i have too but i cannot confirm or deny because i truly don't know because
that would be the hill that those people die on if they told the actual truth so as far as i'm
concerned the rumors are just rumors but who really knows because i mean it's just so interesting
because your one bachelor or bachelorette is just truly put on a pedestal.
Like they, you talk about them constantly through the day.
You're only focused on them, hyper-focused on them, and they are just like a unicorn to you.
So I feel like even if it's your type or not, at the end of the day, they end up with the right person who it really truly is their type.
Right.
But, you know, those beginning weeks, I feel like it's like they're just this unicorn.
Right.
Yeah.
No, that makes sense.
It's just such an interesting world.
I can't believe it's been on the air for so long.
It's the most interesting.
Who's your worst, like the worst contestant, not even lead anyone in the franchise.
Who are you like, wow, that person from that franchise is the worst?
Okay.
This is really hard because I'm going based off of their edit.
Because I've started, so many times I dislike people and then they end up being one of my fake.
Totally.
Olivia ends up, like, was the villain.
And she's one of my favorite people to come from the.
Bachelor.
You totally agree with you.
Same with Michelle Money.
Like I didn't like her while she was on.
And now she's like one of my favorite people to follow.
Same thing with Courtney Robertson, who is on Ben's season.
She was like made out to be this villain, but she's like a badass and cool and normal and funny and wrote a book and I loved her.
Yeah.
So if so that's why this is so hard because we're going off of.
But I mean, did Juan Pablo really get a bad edit or is he just a dick?
But I love Juan Pablo.
I don't, I love his.
season. I really, really did. Well, I don't know if I like him, but like, I thought his season was so
juicy with the whole okay with, you know, what's her name? He's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That scene was so good. And, um, you know, right, it was a good season overall. And like, I always
want to give people the benefit of the doubt where he's truly from another country who shows his
affection and love differently and it's not its first language. So I'll give him that. Yeah. And
And also, like, I could say base people off of good TV, not whether they're a good or bad
person.
So it's like the most people I like are usually the people that most people, I guess, wouldn't,
but I'm like, oh, there's such good TV.
Because actually that season had a lot of good girls.
What was that girl?
The opera singer's name.
Charlene.
She's Canadian.
She lives in New York now.
Oh, I forgot Charlene.
And Claire was in that season.
Nicky.
Yeah, there was so many great.
Like, that was a good, I like that season because everyone's like, he's the worst bachelor ever.
I'm like, okay, but it was great TV.
Well, I love Kelly.
You remember she had her dog?
Yeah.
I feel like she was.
And then there was another mom on that show, the one who was like a personal trainer.
Oh, Renee?
Remember Renee?
She was fourth and she was, actually, she's amazing.
She's got like eight kids now.
No, she's got four, but three maybe.
But that was, you're right.
It was full of great women.
on that season.
Yeah.
So that's why it's like who,
usually the people I find the worst are just boring.
Because I'm like,
I'm watching for TV.
Chad is in real life.
Okay,
but he was great TV.
Oh, yeah.
Like, do you not remember how drunk he got on Bachelor in Paradise?
And like,
um,
like Chris Harrison to go fuck himself.
Come on.
That's great TV.
You're right.
God, you look at it from such a good angle because terrible people do make good TV.
Yeah.
what reality TV is like if you're okay for example Lauren Ari's wife yes okay she was such
boring TV because she's just a nice sweet woman you're right I love following them on
Instagram I love their family they're so sweet but like she was too sweet and kind for reality TV
we need the hot messes you're right she's so sweet and kind I feel like that was kind of
one of the producers once told me when I first was hanging out with Jason he was like
Like, yeah, like, he could have for sure been The Bachelor, but he's born TV.
And I was like, that's because he's so sweet.
Yeah.
And I don't think he is.
I think he's just too smart for.
And if you're going to have sweet, then they have to be funny or like charismatic.
Like, so you weren't crazy or bitchy, but you were over the top.
You were funny.
So you need to have one or the other for good TV.
And then you would need the, like, what was her name?
Well, actually, I thought Emily was great.
Oh, I wanted to be Emily when I grew up.
Like, I was Canadian, and I didn't know that girls like Emily, these southern blonde sweeties with a little accent.
I thought they were only in movies.
And I remember watching that and being like, is she real?
Like, I don't think she's real.
And she really is that sweet, too.
And she's just like the best mom.
And she's just got a head on her shoulders.
And she's sassy in the right moments.
Yeah, like when she told off that guy in her season, when he was like...
The helicopter guy.
He said something about like, like, it's baggage, like having a kid or something like that.
And then she like went off on him.
I'm like, yes.
But that's why I was actually, I was one of the few people who was excited for R&D be The Bachelor
because I liked him from her season because it was like, I wanted him to win.
Yeah, that's fair.
He was really, really, really loved on that season.
Also, I was remembering this while I was going through notes and everything.
I had a dream about Dean last night
And I was have the most vivid dreams
And it was that they were on a show
Dean and Kalin were on a show
And I was a producer
And I was like sitting in on them talking
And I was just sitting on the floor
Watching them have a conversation
And Dean was like
Hey Caitlin do you mind leaving for a second
And I was like oh okay
And then I ran down and I was listening to them
Through the headphones
And Kalen told me or told Dean
That I dated a guy that she dated
And that he cheated on
her with me and that I was like the worst person on the planet and I was like what who I didn't
you know when people tell you your dreams you're like this is actually really boring why are you
telling me this I feel like I just feel like because didn't um we didn't that actually happen
with Ari and the producer to Emily oh pilot Pete wasn't it no no on Emily sees him yeah like on
one of the episodes the producer pulls her aside and was like I need to tell you
you, I dated Ari.
What?
Yeah.
Did that really happen?
In the episode.
Wow.
I do not remember that.
Yes, that's what I thought triggered this.
It was from the Emily to the jury.
Maybe subconsciously it did.
Wait, what?
And what did she say?
Yeah, so, like, I think they were in whatever.
What producer was it?
I don't know.
It was whatever country they were in, not in America.
But they were somewhere over, you know, over, I don't know,
I don't know where they went.
But then, like, you know,
see like kind of like an outtake and her producer like was like I need to tell you I dated
Ari and that's how he got on the show or something like that and then she was so upset because
you don't remember this no I'm going to go back and watch that because I really loved that
season and I kind of love the idea of going back and watching that whole thing she's my
favorite Bachelorette um second favorite I just saying that because you're on my
Claire.
I'm kidding.
Okay.
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion.
What?
I loved Claire's two weeks of Bachelorette.
Oh, I did too.
Holy should I never seen anything like it.
I did too.
It was so different and you were just like, what is happening?
And we kind of all knew just from like rumors swirling that maybe she had found somebody,
but just seeing it play out was like, what is that happening?
Like she just did not give her shit.
about the other guys, which is great for Dale because now they're back together and I feel like
they're just going strong and he's probably like, that's amazing.
Like, I didn't have to go through that whole thing where she dated all these guys.
She like wanted me so bad that here we are.
Yeah, I actually, I thought it was such great TV.
This is off the vine grape therapy.
Okay, but to answer your question five minutes ago, who's my least rate?
Yeah.
Okay.
So I like good TV.
Yeah.
Matt season was so distracting with all of like the bullying that I actually could not enjoy the girls.
Right.
So like there was so much hate.
And I love the drama.
So like I look, I like Juan Pablo, but it wasn't like overbearing a Matt season.
Some of the girls.
It felt nasty.
It felt so nasty that I couldn't, I couldn't lose myself in the drama.
Yeah.
So some of the girls on that season was hard to watch.
I agree.
Instead of getting lost in the drama, I'd be like, oh, my God, it's such a good TV.
Right.
That's a good point.
It was just, it just felt icky watching.
And you're just like, why is everybody so mean?
And how they treated Heather when she came in and she forced to Heather, like, in her little minivan, all innocent.
Yeah.
And when Victoria took the, like, tiara off the, the girl's head, I forgot what the girl's name was.
I just, I was like, oh, that's.
That's not funny or that's not good entertainment.
That just felt like I couldn't get lost.
Yeah, there was a line you crossed it.
I will, this is an embarrassing confession.
Victoria actually reached out to me recently and said that I hurt her feelings.
How?
I was like, oh, shit.
And I said to her, I am so sorry.
And she goes, yeah, you like made fun of my dress or my outfit, which I really try to not do.
I mean, The Bachelor is so easy, obviously, to make fun.
of people and to poke fun and she made it very easy and she knows that right and she kind of ran
with it and she said it hurt my feelings and I said I'm truly sorry and when I look back I said I would
check your social media to see if it was bothering you and you were like playing into it leaning into
it because everyone was making fun of like her straps and everything right yeah and I was like so
I thought you truly weren't phased so I thought I was able to poke fun if I hurt your feelings in
anyway like I felt so bad and that's we were talking about this earlier with um hunter people were
making fun of him so bad but you never really know what's going on with somebody and hunter later
went on in katie as well to say that he had Tourette's and so people were like I don't I think
they're making fun of it because he snored it or something and it just broke my heart because it's like
you don't know anything about these people and Victoria might have been truly suffering inside but then
it's so easy to to poke fun at the show and it's like entertainment but at the same time the real
people and it's a really gray area of where how far to go right yeah i mean yeah i mean it's like
definitely hard i think there's different between um like hate that people put out on the internet
and then like joking and because like when someone's on tv you're putting yourself out there
when i'm on stage i know i'm putting myself out there on instagram i'm not putting myself out there
for people to be like robin's a fat whore that's and go die yeah go die that's not that's viewing hate
but if someone's like rubbing you have a hole in your pants what are you doing like which has happened like that's funny and then joking and I actually love that like I love going through my DMs and people are like form of flattery in my opinion it's roasting it's silly um there's a difference between hate but it's a fine line I also think when people who aren't funny try to roast sometimes it comes off as hate yeah that's so true how do I cut to the core of this person and right out their insides you're like whoa whoa whoa whoa
bro. Yeah, exactly. I just, it's funny to think about like, you know, usually this many women
dating one guy or this many guys dating one girl. It's so funny to see bromances happening because
you're like, wait, how are you guys cuddling on the couch while she's rolling in the hay with
Blake? Like, and he just got there. And it's just such a weird world that you can go into it being
like, well, I'm going to make friends out of it. And we're all going to date the same girl. Like,
you mentally go in thinking that's what it is.
But to continue it through the season and not be like, wait, this is weird.
I thought it was so cute.
Greg and Connor just cuddle fest 2021.
It was like last season, Dr. Joe and who was the guy who came in third?
Who's Dr. Joe?
Oh, Dr. Joe.
Yeah.
He was lovely.
And then who else?
The guy, I think he came.
The one who had his sister come to the hometown date with Tasia.
I remember they did like the, um.
He did the carnival.
Yes.
Do you remember like there was a scene of like them like rubbing let each other's legs?
And so then like the internet had fun.
And the two of them have then like played on it like since the show has ended in their insta stories.
You know?
Like you should have fun.
Like it's like joking and silly.
But again, there is a line of just like cruelty.
But the best is when you can take that and run with it and make it part of your brand.
Like except Blake Horstman.
I'm like, stop making the jokes about the.
music festivals like he's like still running with the fact that he like banged a bunch of chicks at
stage coach and I'm like you can't make these jokes anymore it was like funny that you took it
and ran with it on your own but like find a new schick now yeah yeah but this goes back to like all
these people are normal people they're not comedians so they don't know like my mom's still
making like the same joke for the last 10 years and none no one's laughing but she's a teacher
doesn't know yeah yeah that's true they're not comedians I need to
remember that.
Yeah, that these are all like, I don't expect Blake to, like, come up with new material.
That's so fair.
I need to give him a break since he is my friend as well.
What about other Blake?
Blake, who's on the show now, Canadian Blake, what are your thoughts with him?
Because he came in mid-season, which, I mean, I kind of understand because he wanted to come
at the beginning, but then he had to quarantine, and then he had to wait and see if Katie really
wanted to bring him on and he was there for a longer than it, like, may have appeared.
But he comes on and then gets the one-on-one date.
That's, like, rubbing salt in the wound.
How long did you wait to give Nick a date?
Actually, I turned it right around and he got the first one.
Wait a second.
He came on, and then we all traveled to Ireland, and he got the first one-on-one date in
Ireland.
And I had to go into the room where all the guys were sitting and tell him he's getting the one-on-one.
At least Katie got to send a little card from her.
This is why it's smart that you and Katie gave it right away.
Because you're bringing someone on.
If it's not going to work, get him out.
Do you know what I mean?
Because it's not fair to the other guys.
But you're giving them the date right away because you really want to see, like,
is it worth bringing them into this and messing everything out?
So true.
You know, so I actually think it's smart to give the one-on-one right away.
That's how I was convinced because obviously the producers want it.
It's, you know, it's good TV on one.
one side. And the other side, that's how you can justify it because that's true. You really do,
if you're going to bring this person on and then you wait to give them a one-on-one and then you
end up being like, oh, why did I do that? That's a waste of everybody's time where it's hard
for the guys to see it like that. But that's a really valid point that it's good to get that out
of the way and be like, okay, yes, I was right to bring him on. And also both Blake and in your
case, Nick, both of them seem like they really liked you or he really likes Katie.
Yeah. Heather, I didn't get the sense of like, or a few of them, I didn't get the sense of like, oh, I really like you. It's kind of like, I want to see if there's something here. These two guys both seemed like they were here for you. So I think, or for Katie. So I'm like, yeah, let's get to the date. Let's see if there's something and then move them along.
Which was really hard to convince because Blake came from falling for Claire, then following for Tasia, now falling for Katie. But for some reason, I still feel like he genuinely was there for Katie. Because.
I think he had a rough time going through all the TV stuff and he was kind of like, wow, I wouldn't do that again.
But with Katie, he like couldn't stop thinking about her and he really wanted to put himself through this again for her.
So I'm like, I know that seems bad to so many people that like, here it comes again.
But to me, I'm like, I don't know.
I believe them.
Yeah.
Also, Claire, Tasia and Katie are all gorgeous.
It's not like that hard to fall for all these girls.
They're like three hideous women.
How do you fall for them?
It's like.
Focus.
It's like the three hottest women.
That's so fair.
They all like big boobs.
Yeah.
And like how they're like all put on a pedestal.
So like I get it.
That's true.
Okay, fair.
I'm like looking, I'm thinking of them.
Like all three have like 10 bodies, beautiful faces, like big personalities.
Like I.
Oh, how dare you fall for these beautiful.
intelligent, funny, amazing women.
Yeah, like, I'm straight, and I'll date all three of them.
It doesn't even matter.
So it's like not, he's just brave to, like, say it and go and put himself out there.
But it's not like that crazy.
Oh, that's true.
I do feel like he's pretty well liked.
Even, like, the guys didn't take it as, I think Blake handled it so well.
And, like, some of them obviously were upset.
But I feel like this season does have a lot of romance going on, like, men supporting men,
which is so interesting to see.
and, like, even how much they cared when poor Michael A, we have to protect him at all cost, got hurt.
Oh, my God.
I love him.
He's incredible.
And all the guys were just like, you know, and when he told his story again about losing his wife, like, Greg just started bawling.
And it was such an emotional moment.
And people were like, God, that guy walks around with a smile on his face every day.
And he's really putting himself out there.
If Michael does not win.
Yeah.
We should be the next bachelor.
Yes.
Because they haven't had a parent.
Don't say one way or the other.
I won't.
I'll get sued if I do.
I promise I won't.
Blink twice.
I like cover my eyes.
My eyes are burning just from not blinking.
Okay.
Because if I'm just looking at this whole cast,
if I'm going to give my top three choice for Bachelor for next season out of these
remaining men from this season, it would be Michael.
Wait, who's the guy who had the one-on-one?
one last night.
Andrew S?
Yes.
Andrew is really sweet.
But he may be too sweet.
He's very sweet.
Yeah.
You know, I think it's so hot, but I don't know if he's Bachelor material.
I don't really, we don't know him yet.
Who I would, like, really get naked with is, um, is Justin.
Oh, yeah.
Holy Shmoli.
Okay.
He, he, he, every, his facial expressions, right?
That's who we're talking about.
He makes all the, like, like, wide eye face.
Like, he's like, I'm, uh, I don't know.
He does he?
I don't know.
Every episode he, I feel like he actually, like, they showed their first kiss this last night, didn't they?
I think so, yeah.
Yeah, Justin, 26, an investment sales consultant.
Ooh.
I think it is Justin because one, he's handsome.
Hmm.
Two, I could picture you get naked with him.
Yeah.
Three, he's so nice.
Oh, wait, tell me more about you picturing me.
getting naked with just i'm painting a very pretty picture in my head right now and it's you fabio
and jason okay if justin does not get picked by katie and he does not become the bachelor can you message
him and be like i have someone who wants to meet you yeah yeah 100 percent he's like he is 10 years
younger than i that's okay i mean do you want to take him for a role in the hay like katie and blake
or do you want to, like, settle down?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no settling down.
Yeah, just a roll in the hay.
Yeah, yes, yes, yes.
Okay, yeah, then you're okay, that doesn't matter how old is.
Oh, I hope he doesn't win.
I will, I will keep you posted, and I will definitely put that up if it is an option.
We have to get back to precious, precious Michael A, who got injured, and it was like, I think,
Oh, yes.
Yes, it is way worse.
And it was so sad because he's like, everyone here is shredded.
And I'm just out here with my dad bod.
And then he gets so inappropriately slammed from behind who anyone knows sports.
You don't hit anyone from behind.
And who hit him like that?
Who was it?
Yeah, who was it?
It was, we to have it written down.
They made it seem like it was Hunter, but I wasn't sure if it was that.
It wasn't.
Oh, it was your guy.
It was Justin.
Okay.
It was okay.
It wasn't that hard.
It was a love tap
And Michael A was dramatic
Michael, like he went
When he was talking about
How his wife passed
And someone wants to give him a hug
And he was like, I can't get up
Yeah, that was so sad
He's like, I can't move
You know what's funny
As I went into the guy's house
The next day to like tell them something
And all of them were like dying
The guys were on the day
They're like turning their heads
Like they couldn't turn their heads
They're turning their body
And I was like
Michael, how are you doing?
And he's like, yeah, I can't move
Like he was even worse
the next day.
The preview made it seem like he has a hard time coming up with like leaving his son
and everything and I'm just like, oh, my God.
I'm a sweet, sweet son.
But we haven't had a bachelor, bachelorette with a kid.
I feel like since Emily.
I was thinking the same thing I was trying to.
Oh, Juan Pablo.
Oh, yeah.
So it was Juan Pablo, Emily, and what's his name who married?
Jason, Mason.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah, we're due for one.
We're due for one.
I would, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, was there someone else on this season with a kid?
One other guy?
Yeah, Hunter.
Hunter has kids.
Oh, Hunter, yeah.
Hunter has two kids.
He's not Bachelor material already because you could tell because of like what happened
with last night when he was like, you know, trying to.
He was being cocky.
He took a little cocky turn, but it's always so interesting to hear their perspective
when Hunter was like, my relationship with Katie is as strong as it could
possibly be right now and I'm like is it though like what makes you feel that way I don't know where
these guys come up with these feelings or maybe they've had something that we all didn't see at home
I don't know right and also I've dated so many guys where I was like oh my god we are in love and then
the next day they're like you know I think we should slow down I'm like what so I mean you never
know two people could just be on such different pages you know and I have so true oh god but I do I do like
your love for Andrew S because his
one on date, I don't know if
you felt this, but at the beginning, I was like, I don't
know if this is going well. And then all of a sudden, I was
like, oh, no, it's going very well. Okay, they're cute.
They're very cute together.
Yeah. I also, you could
tell, like, oh, this was
so good. When he, like, brought up the
conversation about being a black man and
having kids together, my
one problem with The Bachelor
all these years is, I was like,
how were they never, like, having talks about
politics or, like, what's your stand?
abortion. Like these are things like normal conversations. Yeah. So like something like that is a real
conversation that a couple would have before getting engaged. And so I'm so glad it's happening
and that they're showing it. So I just thought that was a great moment. I loved to see that as well
because you're right. In all 20 years, I don't think they've ever shown a conversation about
like interracial children. Yeah. About people of color dating other colors. Like I don't think that's
ever happened. And when we all talk so much about, you know, wanting The Bachelor to take all
these steps in the right direction, like, that is a step. That is them showing, like, that is an
important conversation to have. I do, I wonder if it'll ever get to the politics standpoint of
conversation, because as we all know, I think that's why Becca Kouffer and Garrett split up,
because their political views were just so different that they could not get on the same page. Yeah.
And it, it's, that's stuff you need to figure out. And so I loved that conversation. And I loved that conversation.
loved watching it last night. And I think everyone else watching was like, yes. Did you and any of
your guys like, especially with Sean or Nick, like in the fan suits, you were like, hey, where do you stand
politically? Where do you like, what's your religion? Like what? I did. Like definitely because Ben
Higgins is quite religious. So we definitely had conversations about religion. To be honest, I didn't have
religion talk. I actually think I had with everybody. Politics I didn't. And I would now going
back, but then I was kind of like living in my Lala Canada world and didn't really think about
that living in the States and what their beliefs are.
I really truly didn't think about it.
But we talked like about how we grew up with money, like if we did or didn't and how we
handled that.
Right.
Religion and all stuff that back then would have been boring TV, but now I think people
crave seeing those real conversations.
Yeah.
It's definitely interesting.
Yeah.
And I just think it's so smart to have before getting engaged.
aging, heading a whole other element.
But who knows, you're supposed to also get lost in The Bachelor.
So maybe people actually don't want that, you know, so I think it's a fine line.
Maybe we could leave the political standpoint out and leave it for fantasy suites.
But all the other conversations I think are important, especially I was surprised they cut my
religion talk out with Ben because that was before we went in the fantasy suite too.
And in the fantasy suite, we talked more about it.
Right.
Yeah.
He was a good bachelor's.
I like this season, too.
He's so handsome.
He is, and he's just a sweetheart, too.
He's just the best.
What else was I going to say?
Oh, okay, I wanted to talk about the preview because we heard Katie say, I love you.
Did you notice it was over, it was the I love you was over her cuddling with the guy who's a virgin.
But clearly she did not, but clearly she's not saying it to him.
I actually didn't even notice.
I just heard her say I love you and I was like, ah.
and then they showed me
like sitting outside of her bathroom door
like trying to get in
that was I'm curious how much she'll show that
because that was a really rough point for her
that was probably her lowest point
and that was sad, sad, sad, sad, sad.
But it just, I felt like that preview
really took me on a roller coaster
and I was there.
I was like, holy shit,
this is going to be crazy.
Yeah, I know that I'm like really excited for this.
I'm always more excited for the second half of the season.
The second half of the season to me
always better. Yeah. Especially if you battle through and watch the first half, because
we all love night one seeing everyone's gimmicks, but then you're like, who is that person
or what's that person's name? And you get so lost, but you really have to go through the
first half to, to appreciate who these people are when you get to the second half. Like,
you're like, okay, I'm rooting for them or I'm not rooting for them. Or they, like, I can't stop
thinking about this person. And I'll remember him at the beginning. He was like this, but now
he's opening up so much. Like, he's put his walls down. Exactly. Like, I'm
only 80% short it's just in who I like.
So it's like, yeah, we got to get to the second.
Oh, let's talk about Greg.
What do you think about Greg?
Oh, yeah, Greg.
It was really sweet how emotional he got for Michael A.
I thought that was so sweet.
And him and Katie just have such an undeniable connection.
And I, that's all I can really say.
Okay.
Blank twice.
I think he's really.
sweet. I loved when she was like pretty much
told him he had a resting bitch face. Oh yeah, that was
hilarious. Oh, yeah. She said resting sad face like a puppy
dog and he's like, oh shit. Like no guy wants to like be pitied for
like a puppy dog. He was like, okay, I'm going to work on that. But she's right. He
always does look like something's bothering him. But I guess that's just his
his face. Resting sad face. R.S.F. I feel like
he's clearly a frontrunner. If he
does not win.
I think he'd be in the running for The Bachelor,
but I don't think he would be the Bachelor.
How come?
Because I think it'd just be another pilot
P. Ari type thing where
it's just a little too dry
and boring. And I think
they know that. Although here's the thing.
I loved how Peter sees him.
I love a shit show.
You're right. You're right.
But up until the season ended,
it was like, you know,
the more, even like, Ben was more,
Even though Ben fits into that category, but he had more charisma.
And I feel like- He did.
He had depth to him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he also had great girls on his season.
Yeah.
Sean Lowe, I really liked.
Like he had-
loved him.
You know, so it's really, so I think Greg is more of like a pilot P.
Where it's like they don't pop off the screen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel you on that.
I feel you on that.
But, I mean, who knows at this point?
Yeah.
I have a quick game for you.
If you like to play a game with me.
Oh, of course.
I feel like I'm going to love your.
answers. So it's Bachelor hypotheticals, like if you went on The Bachelor, okay? Okay.
What color slash style dress would you wear out of the limo? Naked.
Naked. With Justin. With Justin. I'm like, no, thank you. I got someone already.
What's so funny is if it's not Justin, who I'm talking.
It is. I know it.
I think it is.
I think it is.
Okay, naked.
Great.
What would your limo entrance be?
That's it.
Make it.
I have to do something.
I have to do something.
No, thank you.
Imagine if I have to be naked and say something funny?
You should just run out with like your hands over your boobs and one over your wee and just run in and be like,
has anyone done that?
Has anyone done that?
Has anyone come on naked?
A streaker?
Yeah.
No.
You should do it.
That'll be the first.
Okay. First for everything, and I feel like it's you. What are four things you could not go on the show without packing?
Ooh, interesting. Actually, I don't think I need, because they're going to take my phone away. Because the only thing I would want is my phone. Oh, red lipstick.
I was going to say that. Red lipstick and herbs.
What about your Fabio cut out? I mean, I could live without him. Like, because I travel for my career is traveling.
And there's really nothing I need except for my phone.
So if they're taking that away, who can't, you know, then it's like.
You're such a minimalist.
I am, which is so weird because I do have like cut out Fabio's, like, blow up dolls.
But you also can like make anything out of duct tape and you're like, you're so resourceful.
That's what you are.
Yeah.
You know how like you could put like kids in a room and they can entertain themselves.
I just have that ability.
I don't need much.
That's, that's a skill.
Okay.
Who would you want to be on the same?
season as you, so you could be friends.
Yeah.
I always tee myself up for these compliments, don't I?
I have luck.
Hey, and besides you, I'm trying to think, like, who, well, who I think would be fun.
Because, like, I, ultimately, I would pick someone just, like, normal so they wouldn't
start a fight or, you know what I mean?
Like, the people who are good TV, I wouldn't want on my season.
Right.
And I wasn't one boring.
But, yeah, I think just you.
everyone else I want to
everyone else I just want to like watch
you know
there's like a bunch of people who are so nice
like again like I said like Olivia seems like so
nice and you know
but yeah I'm sticking with you
okay I'll take it I mean that's because we are
friends yeah if anyone doesn't know
Robin and I went and had a couple
glasses of wine in New York and we really took a friendship
to the next level it was amazing and we got
paparazzi we did we got
popas we should use that photo for the photo
to promote this because it's
It's really unfortunate because you fake trip to, like, five times because you wanted the
Pumratzzi to, like, catch you tripping so it was a funny photo.
But they only used our best angle.
Yes, so annoying.
I was shocked.
I actually was, like, pretty happy with that picture.
It is adorable.
You know, we're both like happy and smile.
You were happy and smile.
Do you know I left my purse at that restaurant?
When we left, I was like, we got, Titch and I got all the way to dinner, and I was like,
I don't have my purse.
I'd go all the way back.
get it. It was awful.
It was like a long drive.
I have to tell you,
so throughout drinks,
we got like fries and everything
and like Caitlin's such a lady
and she put her like napkin on her left
and through the whole time she's like
wiping her face anytime she got like
little food on it, you know,
and then she stood up and remembered
that it wasn't a napkin. She had put
her like, she was wearing like a
suit. It was her suit
jacket and she forgot that the
suit jacket wasn't a napkin.
She was out the entire time.
She'd just been wiping her face on her jacket.
So we stood up and there was all these like crumbs.
I was like salt and like crumbs and grease all over my jacket because I thought it was
the napkin.
It was the same materials like a fancy black napkin.
I just kept wiping myself with it.
And so then we stepped outside.
The paparots here and there.
And then we get back.
So she, okay.
So now we'll find out she doesn't have her purse, which I didn't even know at the time.
she has crumbs all over her jacket we get to the hotel and there's tasha looking like a 10
like just glowing like there's i think there's a light from the head and shining down like
that's what i was thought when when when you introduced me to her because she looked like glowing
like yeah yeah it was like oh my god this is so perfect it was so on brand she had like the most
spectacular outfit on and her hair was all quaffed and
perfect and her makeup was fresh and I'd like fries on my face and jacket and like left my purse
and I was just like and then the like paparazzi was like only snapping her and we were like over
here uh no I think I think a fan came up and it was Tasha for yeah and like Caitlin and Tashor sitting
right next to each other and they're like oh my God we're such fans and both Caitlin Tisha said
thank you. And then they go, Tasha, can we have a picture?
It was just so perfect. You couldn't write it. I mean, it was just like such like
perfect comedy, just like the yin and the yay. I mean, no, it was, it was truly a humbling
moment for me, especially with the fry grease and everything all over me. And I'd be like,
Tisha, we have a photo with you and I was like, oh, oh. You just looked at me. You're like,
Oh, my gosh.
I love to be taken down a notch.
It was such good comedy, though.
So who cares?
It really was because now I'm like peeing my pants laughing about it.
Okay.
Last question of the game.
Where would you want to travel?
Where's the number one destination you would want to travel on the show?
Oh, probably like Greece.
Really?
Have you been?
No.
And I just keep seeing all these beautiful pictures of people's vacations and Greece.
And I'm like, I need to go there.
And I think it'd be really romantic.
I think Greece is totally romantic, but I think Italy is better.
I have never been to Italy either.
And Greece and Italy are like my two places I need to go.
It's heaven on earth.
It's the best, most magical place I've ever been in my life.
You have to go.
Have you been to Greece or?
No.
No.
So I can't prepare.
Right.
But Italy is.
And I've traveled a lot, but I feel like I see pictures of Greece.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
But there's places in Italy that look like you're in Greece.
And I, well, I can't speak to it because obviously I'm,
been there. But my, but Cleo, she's been to both Greece and Italy and she was like, there's no
comparison. Like, Italy is it. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll just have to both and I'll let you know.
You know what, let's just, let's go to Greece and Italy for my bachelor party. Perfect.
Wait, when's the bachelor's party? I don't know yet. Sometime next year, I think.
Wait, do we know when the wedding is? Sometime next year, I think.
Okay. I actually, we're going between two months right now. So we, it just depends on, it just depends on,
when this venue that we really want
is going to be available. So we'll probably
find that, honestly, in the next few days.
What state are you having your wedding?
Tennessee. Okay.
Yeah.
Is this breaking news, or do your
followers already know? You know, that's a great
question. I don't even know if they know or
what, but
Newsflash with
Robin Shaw, Caitlin's wedding is going to
be in Tennessee.
That's a good way to end the pod, just with a little breaking news, just a little teaser.
I tell that I did my work.
Your work here is done.
Thank you.
That's amazing.
I'm Caitlin Bristow.
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