Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Bachelorette Recap ft. Wells Adams

Episode Date: October 22, 2020

Wells joins Kaitlyn this week for another Bachelorette recap and the two discuss their shared love for Chris Harrison, the unusual gift Wells brought on Jojo's season and their professional opinions on what the heck is going on this season! They discuss the lineup of clueless men, Clare's supposed intentions and the ways the show has evolved since it started. GEICO – Go to geico.com , and in fifteen minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance RITUAL – Visit Ritual.com/VINE to get 10% off during your first three months.  EXPRESS – Text VINE to 397-737 to receive $25 off your purchaseSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Here's Caitlin. Welcome to Great Therapy, everybody. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. I'm laughing because Jason is the biggest sweetheart ever. And I told him I was recording and he was in the, like, mid-pee. You were in mid-pee. Yeah. And he was like, and then it just went,

he aimed around the sides just so that I could record this. Oh, my God, that's so funny. Anyways, I do a Bachelorette recap with Wells for you guys. We talk all about the wedding he was supposed to have with Sarah and how they celebrated the prank they pulled at their wedding. We talked Bachelorette, who's Wells' favorite, and what he's doing right now. It's very interesting. Why is he where he is? I just have some weird predictions.

But anyways, we talk all about the juicy stuff that you want to hear. So I hope you guys enjoy this podcast. I always watch the screeners, as you probably get them too, obviously. And then rewatching it, you miss the just complete. Oh, shall I say, ridiculousness that you were on that the other day. Yeah. Okay, that was so cool. I'm just going to start with that because that was, in my opinion, that was a really good transition.

It was good It was good I liked it I'm like laying in bed Trying to have a nap Because I am tired And I'm sitting there And I'm like

I love that show Ridiculousness And then you were the guest And I was like Oh my gosh Did you know This might even be a confession But did you know

That about 12 years ago No I don't know Whenever that show started I tried to write in And ask for Chanel's job Yeah

That's embarrassing No you'd be great at it because she doesn't i mean i i like chenelle from like the you know the hour that i spent with her but she just kind of sits there as it sits there and laughs and giggles and giggles which i guess is good like you need you need to laugh track on that show but you'd be great on that because you'd be you wouldn't need guests you would just have like built-in funny person on the couch the whole time you know i always wanted to but but she used to actually have like a legit job at the office didn't she like where rob and big did their thing yeah

she was like the front desk operator oh i thought she was like some sort of i don't know what i thought she was i just wanted her job because i had a like weird crush on rob yeah he's great and like i just love how he talks it's always kind of like whispering but like it's so it's like his comic his comedic timing with the way he talks is so good you're right you know it's like man i just I love love and I like meeting him you know you meet a bunch of people yeah if you get lucky enough to be in like our shoes you meet a bunch of people that you've seen a bunch and some people don't live up right and some people exceed and Rob was someone who exceeded totally was like such a wonderful person to be around and by the way if you want to do that show I can totally

get you to go do that show like in no time oh my god I would die I would love to do that show oh yeah They would love to have you. When they announced that it was me on, I got so many tweets being like, another episode of Ridiculous List where no one knows who the fuck the guest is. And I was like, God, dang it. Not because you were a surprise

because nobody watching knows who you are. That's what they were saying. Yeah, because the guy was like, I've never heard of this person. And then, of course, like, my... And then, of course, like, I have to retort with, like, your girlfriend knows who I am. Not because, like, I'm, like, a really attractive guy

that she wanted to fuck. No, no, no, no, because she watches the show that I am on, you know? Oh my gosh, that's funny. She is so hot, too. Hey, you want to know what's really scary? Seeing just how much you could be saving on car insurance by switching to Geico. It's almost as scary as that homemade elf costume that your mom made you wear in junior high school. No, Geico can't erase the memory of tripping down the hallway and oversized pointy shoes, but they could save you 15% or more on car insurance. Stop waking up at night. in a cold sweat wondering what happened to that green onesie and just switch to

Geico to save. Fifteen minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. Okay, so we're going to recap the Bachelorette. I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Jason last week when we were doing this. On a scale of 1 to 10,

10 being like Hannabee season of greatness, I don't even, I'm not going to say who is the worst because I actually don't know who I would pick at this point. But like, you know I mean. One to ten. Where do you think this season is on episode two? Okay. So, oh, that's a good question. I think it's middle of the middle of the road right now. Okay. Room for improvement. Yes. And no. I think so. Here's the problem that they're having with the show. I don't know. I mean, it's alleged that there's a

swap, right? Is that proven? I don't even know. But that's what I keep saying. I don't even know if it's proven or not i don't know either but um i think that her time as the bachelorette was so short there's just not a lot of footage to use that's my theory on it is that like they're grasping for straws as to like what to use because it was pretty quick i didn't ever think about that um the lack of footage because i just thought there's something different about the season maybe it's because they're not at the mansion and there's no one really you're rooting for because you just

assume she ends up with Dale. Yeah, maybe that's it. I... Probably a combination. Yeah, so I've always said this and I firmly believe it. The show, even though that like she's the lead, she's not. Like the lead is all the people there for her. Like they're the characters and

she's just kind of supposed to be kind of like the focal point and all the commotion is supposed to happen around her. Nothing really happening around her. I think that like we've got some traction with this Yosef guy that seems like he's kind of crazy. Right. So I think that like there's Claire's walk in the fine line between like being like the fiery like stand up for like what you believe in strong woman Hannah B type and then also kind of being like the person on the season that's a little unhinged and you're not sure if you're rooting for them or not or not. You know, I think that so I don't know if they

the normal archetype of the show is set for them. I think that that's what I think. Yeah. No, that's I mean, all of these things put together and then on top of it, we haven't seen her in so long that it's not like she just got her heartbroken a couple months ago

in front of America and we're rooting for her to find love. It's like that season with Juan Pablo was so long ago that now you're like, oh, right, Claire, and she did this and she had this season on Paradise and blah, blah, blah. And you like, remember her being like a she's a memorable person from the franchise but it's not like we just watched her get her heartbroken to now turn around and be like we want her to find love we're like oh she she hasn't

found love okay yeah i think it's fair i mean like so what i remember i wish i think was one of the best bits they had ever done was like the talking to the raccoon thing in paradise like i think yes it's it's when the humor started to come into the show yes and i fully believe that that was like a 100% along gale and like that was some of his best work yes right had to be um and i think that's when i was like this girl's hilarious like she's leaning into this this is so funny um and then i guess that there was the uh winder games thing which i that didn't work out very well i suppose and then now we're here so yeah i think you're i think you're right i think that i think that this the audience is one i think everyone's like super excited to root for like an older woman because i think that's the thing

that everyone, it's the glaring problem with the show is that you keep on casting these people that really aren't ready to do the thing that you're supposed to do on the show, right? You're too young for this. And this is someone who's definitely ready, who's obviously like, on Winter Game, she got engaged, you know, in Paradise, she was like, definitely there for love. Like, that was like her, like, quote or whatever. Yeah. So I think everyone's excited about that.

But I think, unfortunately, because, like, how the media works, everyone's just, just like, yeah, whatever, you're going to choose that guy and then it's going to be over. So I can't really invest my, maybe that's what I'm doing. I can't get invested as something that I know is going to end soon. Yeah, that's exactly what I think, too. I'm the same way. I'm just, it's, it's so clear that it's Dale and they're editing it the way to make it seem. It's very clear that it's Dale.

So you're like, am I tuning in to see what's going to happen or am I tuning to see the love story with Dale? Like, I don't know at this point. It's only week, too. And I mean, she's such a, I always. called her like an edgy Disney princess because she just like, I love love and I want a man who does this for me and blah, blah, but then she's also like, get the fuck out of here. You're not here for me. Stop only talking about my looks. Like she's like this edgy Disney princess. And I knew it when they

were like, we're going to do a love language date. I'm like, that is, there's not even somebody in the date department coming up with these ideas. That was straight from Claire. I guarantee it. Yeah, but I think, but also not, that's a lot of women. A lot of women are love to talk about love languages and stuff. I would have done the same thing. I'm like, so on that note, what's your love language? It's funny because I think Jojo asked me that and I was like, I don't know what that means. English, it's a, English is my first language.

That's what I know. That's funny. It has become quite the thing, like Eniogram and love languages are such a thing. I thought it was actually kind of a cool idea for a date though because really they're on this they're only in one specific area you can only do so much

we all know women are watching this show so to talk about love languages and then play them out I'm like what gift would Wells have brought if you had that date? Well it's funny because I was annoyed that I didn't get to see what Bennett's was because first of all

let me just tell you who I'm rooting for right now Bennett I think is the greatest Jason What? Oh, I thought you're going to say Jason. The Jason that's on this season, no? Bennett, he's the New York Harvard guy that, like, definitely has a yacht and, like, a trust fund.

And, like, I love him, so he wears loafers everywhere. Like, I just love, I cannot wait for his happy ass to walk down the steps in paradise and order, like, the most ridiculous drink. And I say, hey, welcome to fucking the real world, buddy. Here's a beer. That's what you're getting. I love him so much.

He's going to be like, can I get a kettle one martini on the rocks with extra blue cheese olives? Yeah, exactly. Can you shave some truffles into this thing with some of Princess Diana's pubs? Some weird thing. I'd be like, I don't got that, bro. And when you're finished with that,

could you just burn the orange peel and wrap it around the edge so I get a little orange taste why I take my sip? Okay, yeah, you're so right, Bennett. And his name would be Bennett. Yeah, of course. And so that was when he brings his gift and it's like wrapped immaculately and you don't get to see what it was. And I was just making a joke on my Instagram being like, you know it was a 401k, a Roth IRA, some like blue chip stocks and a pre-nup.

And he was like, are we doing this thing or not? Let's roll. And you feel, I feel like he's like been here before. Like he knows how to do this. Like he's like, I've been in these relationships. Like I just feel like there's something about him that has the confidence out of. like women like he's like are you here for me or am i here for you like there's something about him that sits back with his legs crossed and like pokes his glasses up higher and says like he wants a martini

yeah but he's also every man i mean he puts his cashmere sweater around his neck and ties it just like everyone else does no oh my gosh who's that one guy did you watch emily maynard season the guy with a helicopter no oh that's too bad uh uh No, but so what I would have brought, I don't know, I, I did bring something to The Bachelor. And, uh, yeah, I brought like, uh, well, I brought a book. The five love languages? Yes, and the eneagram and, uh, and, and, and like, the NASTEC for dummies, just in case I ran into Bennett. Um, no, I brought, I brought like, and looking back, it's like such a douchey move.

it was like seven piece volume of all john steinbeck's novels because i do like john steinbeck but like bringing seven of them is a little over the top and like lord knows i didn't read sentence one of any of those books while i was there uh but i brought that being like everyone's i think i'm smart which no one did that didn't fool anybody and then i brought like a picture of me and my dog and i had written like myself a note being like don't forget like who you are and like what you stand for and that kind of stuff and i did show jojo those things at some point and she was like she was like looking over my shoulder and she's like, oh, sorry, I was looking at Jordan's the abs from his tits to his taint. I wasn't paying attention to anything that you were doing.

I'm like, got it, cool. I'm going to get out of here. I'm going to go to the snack table. I need some cheese. I'll be back later. You're like, well, it's back to the cheese table for me, I guess. Exactly. We'll be right back with more off the vine, grape therapy. This is off the vine, grape therapy. I think, like, it was the first group date. So I feel like a bunch of guys were, like, oh, my gosh, like, we all get along so well.

So I won't step on your toes and I won't step on your toes. And, like, they don't know how it works. They don't know you just stand up and say, hey, could I take you for a second? So I think they were all being extremely polite. And Claire was just kind of like, wait, I've seen this show before I know how this works. You don't all sit back. So I was a little uncomfortable when she called everybody out. What about you?

Yeah, I agree. Like, they've never done this before. for so you got to cut them a little bit of slack they're also very nervous and then also lastly there isn't like the one douchebag that's like there's always like one guy named like Ryan L that's like always asked her first and you're like it's that it's always like the short guy that you can't stand you know like always like pulls her first and there just isn't that guy you know like there isn't the guy like starts the thing and so I felt I felt like very bad for them I was like oh they don't even know they don't even know what they're doing right now you know

no and I was really pissed off I gotta be honest with you Kaylin I was very pissed off because it interrupted Bennett's date and I wanted to find out what in boarding school he went to you know like I needed to know more about his life on the show gossip girl

do you follow Bennett on social media no but I'm going to because I was like ripping him tonight on like as I was watching it and then I was like but then I started saying that I loved him so now I need to follow him do you follow him no I haven't followed anyone yet. I find myself rooting for Blake the Canadian. He kind of threw me for a

cringeworthy moment when he did the whole interruption thing, but then he redeemed himself. And I'm like, I want to root for him because he's Canadian, but I'm also like, I don't know yet. Yeah, I don't know. He's breaking all the rules, but she's liking it, you know? Like, she's like cherry with like the soches and the outsiders, you know, like I don't really understand what's happening my i think that like my favorite moment though of the show so far was when she just kicked that guy out because like effectively he uh like what it like you know in you know in um in anchorman when he's like i'm a i'm kind of a big deal i have many leatherbound books and my apartment's of rich mahogany that's kind of i felt like that's where she she was like do you don't know who i am

You don't, what are you talking about? He's like, no, you're just beautiful. And she's like, wait, hold on, but you don't know anything about me. And he's like, how would I know anything about? I think it would be weirder for someone to be like, so on season 73 of Bachelor in Paradise, I noticed that you are left-handed. And that excited me. And then I noticed on winter games that your pizza French fry technique on the downhill ski was great.

And that's when I knew. That's when my penis got a little bit chubby. And that's when I knew that I had to come on season 25 of the bachelor. you know like that would be weirder than him being like no dude you're hot so i wanted to come on this tv show like date a hot chick you know yeah i know i totally agree with you but like his delivery was so shit like he just he's a freezer he does he freezes in in moments where he can't talk his way through anything and i like i found it amusing and hilarious but like only for a couple minutes where if he was staying the rest of the season i'd be like oh my god frickin spit it out bro like

say what you need to say he just he freezes he didn't know how to carry a conversation yeah it was i was like i was watching like a judd appetal movie when he was like yeah can we just not talk about it right now can we just not can we just not can we just not talking about it can we just maybe later and she's like no you can't that's not you don't get to edit this in mid-sentence like no he's like well i've heard people have gone on the show and there's editing involved can we just cut this part out and skip to the part where we make out wait can i Can I try that again, guys? What's my inspiration here?

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trying to like give all my dodgeball quotes and i'm like no one really no one yeah uh yeah i was thinking the exact same thing and i do find it funny that like i think that you and i have the exact same humor and no one else has the same humor and then what we think is hilarious everyone's like, uh, as a Vince Vaugh from aught 9, guys. Yeah, that's so fair. I feel like people just do that thing where they like grab the bridge of their nose and squint their eyes and shake their head. Yeah, you know who would do that?

Bennett would probably do that. Bennett would do that for, he'd move his glasses out of the way just to do that. Mm-hmm. He would. Bennett's favorite movie is definitely American Psycho, 100%. Yeah. Oh, no questions asked. And he's just, well, first of all, I think people told my Jason that he reminded them of him on his season, on Becca's season.

Oh, really? Yeah, I don't know. Are you saying something about that the other night where people were like, oh, oh, wait, Jason said something. What? No, no, no, no, no, no. Bennett on the season, not producer Bennett. But didn't people call you like American Psycho or something? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah. When they had with Bennett, the opening, you know, they had him in his face. mask and everything. Oh, yeah. They're painting American Psycho picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's funny. American Psycho. There's two of you. And now there's a new

Jason in town, which Jason 2.0 is in town on this season of the Bacheloret. And he is okay, wait, I actually really liked their date because he seems like a really sweet, genuine guy who's like, you know, got

some obvious demons, as he would say. But I thought it was really sweet how they opened up to each other. Yeah, but also, I don't know if you should ever admit to somebody that you're trying to date that things that people have called you in the past is manipulative. Even if you're, even if that's not true, you should never say that. That's fair. I was a little thrown off by that one.

I was like, oh, he went there. Okay. And he also led with it. It wasn't like, uh, you know, like my biggest flaw is like I care too much or like, uh, you know. Right. It wasn't like a nice sandwich. of like something I'm really good at and then something I could work on

and then something that people love about me. It was like he cut right to the meat. Yeah, that would be like if you went in for a job interview and they were like, give us like your biggest flaw. And you were like, well, I tend to embezzle from the company that I work for. They'd be like, all right, we're not going to hire you, you know?

But she seemed to love it. Claire was like, oh, I know, yep. Yeah. Like she was into it. She was like she was here for the demons. I know. Also, if you watch it back, you still have time to watch it back. Hasn't aired yet over there, I don't think. Yeah, it's going to air in an hour here. I'm really excited about it. Watch it back. He looks like he, this must have been a really late date. He looks like he's falling asleep the entire time when he's doing his interviews. He looks like he's like about to fall asleep and he's just. I legit have that written in my notes. I was going to ask you if you thought he got drunk through that date because towards the end, I'm like, is he. he slurring his words and like getting drunk or is he tired i'm not sure yeah i don't know or he like got himself drunk after he was like did i just tell the girl that i'm trying to date that people think i mean manipulative time for some tequila shots also he said like not only was he manipulative but he said he was like also he's like yeah i would just hook up with girls and i'm like okay stop stop yeah i like him though because i think he's like one of those people

that will come on and grow a lot from this show. Like, they're going to really dig deep and cut to the core of him and he's going to, like, discover himself. That's my hope for Jason. Yeah, well, let me tell, listen, if his problem is that he was sleeping around a lot and he was manipulative, number one, he's already looking in them DMs,

doing some weird shit. You know it is happening. And then number two, he's probably going to come to paradise and going to have, you know, I don't know, done some weird stuff, and it's going to be an amazing storyline, so I'm here for it. You're right. You know, whoever goes on, you're always thinking about them as like,

oh, what's going to happen with them on Paradise, especially you're like, what kind of information am I going to get while I serve these little drinks? If Bennett doesn't show up in his, like, own schooner yacht to, like, not coming down the stairs, but like he comes in in his own yacht, then I quit. If it doesn't happen, I quit. I'm out of there.

Well, of course, he'll show up in something. I just, I'm like, actually, you know what? Do we know what his last name is? I want to look him up right now. I don't know, but he's... Oh, is it this guy? Oh, no. Oh, no.

Is it this guy? No. It's not Bennett Sypes. Is it? Who's this guy? Bennett Bachelor Harvard. I just did a... That's like actually his Instagram name.

Yeah. You know, that's like what Google was like, this is what you want. What is his? name. No, Bennett Jordan. He's 37. He grew up in Atlanta. What? Clear eyes, full hearts, donuts and green juice. Oh my, no. Oh my gosh. Wait. Oh, I'm dying. Okay, this is clear eyes, full hearts, donuts and green juice. Okay. And not following yet. No, but we're getting there. Okay, yeah, I need to warm up to Ben to Andrew. Jordan. Okay. He's obviously my favorite.

Do you have a favorite guy? No, I would say after this conversation with you, I'm a big Bennett guy because now I just think it's funny and I'm like just wanting to see him on Paradise. But I just, I really want to like the Canadians. I always want to like the Canadians and I'm just not sure about Blake yet. So is Blake the guy that was DMing her beforehand? He's got a little bit of like the Abraham,

Lincoln Beard going on. Okay. Yes, and he also got a rose for intruding on her dodge ball day. Oh, yeah, and he tried to kiss her, and she turned away. Oh, my God, yeah, and then she gave him the rose. That's crazy. Yeah, I hated, like, the whole, like, balls jokes. I'm like, oh, ha, okay, dodge ball, balls jokes. I get it.

And then they, like, showed Claire in slow motion dodging balls everywhere. Did you notice that? No, but... Oh, it was like slow-mo of balls hitting her in the face. It was kind of hilarious. But then, you know, the whole thing was, oh, I'm trying to show you balls. And then he goes, she's like, that's what I want to see.

And then he goes in for a kiss and she's like, up too much, too soon. Yeah, I know. Have a little class there, Guy. All right. I'm not ready for that. You just ask us all, you just ask us all to wear a thong and show you our taints. What are you talking about?

where's the middle ground here lady right where's crossing the line that seems like a very gray area of what's right and wrong and who has balls and who doesn't yeah that's hilarious can wait i have a game to play with you i'm just trying to pull it up here okay it's bachelor hypotheticals are you ready yeah okay if you had to completely be quarantined i already know the answer to this if you had to completely be quarantined for two weeks with any one of clare's men who would you choose bennett uh yeah for sure bennett who would you choose and why would you choose and why I Bennett is what I'm asking. I don't know because I just don't think that like I know enough about Cabernet Sauvignon

and I need to like really educate my palate. I also need to get my portfolio in order and he would definitely help a brother out with that. For sure he would, you know? And like also like find some tax shelters that I didn't really know about but I could definitely help my bottom line. Yeah, maybe some investments talk to you about the Dow. Yeah, you know, the bull market. I don't, by the way, these are all terms. I have no idea what they mean, but, uh, I only know them because I'm dating Jason Tarduk.

Yeah, I only know them because I watch Jason Tarduk's video sometimes. Very educational. You like, I watch them and then I feel like I know that, like I think I can talk about it, but I really don't know what I'm talking about, but I feel smart. Dude, I have an idea for them, by the way, for him, by the way. He, does he have a podcast? We're working on it. Well, okay, here's my idea.

Okay. I think he and Derek should do a finance podcast together because Derek's really good. He's no longer doing the Betches one. He's like, but he does like loan stuff. Like he refinances like student loans and stuff. But he's really good. And those are the two guys that I watch and I'm like, I'm going to learn stuff about finance today, you know? Yeah.

That's a good, actually, that's a good point. Yeah. There you go. I like Derek, too. I feel like he's good. He's, like, the right amount of smart and funny and, like, entertaining. Yeah, he's good people. Yeah.

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I don't know anyone's, this is also the problem with when you know who they're going to pick in the beginning. You don't learn anybody's name. I don't know anyone's name. I just know Bennett, Jason, and Dale. Is Jason the Canadian? No, Jason's the one that is manipulative and a playboy. Yeah. I don't know.

I go with the Canadian with the Abraham Lincoln beard. With the Abraham, yeah. Okay. If you could cast any male and female celebrity to lead the next seasons of the Bachelor and Bachelor, who would you cast? For the guy, whoever the actor was that played Brink in the movie Brink, the rollerblading movie on Disney. Please tell me why. I feel like he probably still looks pretty handsome.

and there's probably enough young 30-year-old women who would definitely do anything to get with Brink So I'm going with Brink Who I'm looking him up? Did you never see him with Brink? Oh yeah, Brink!

Yeah. Oh my gosh, I wonder what he looks like now. Wait, I'm going to Google Brink now. He definitely looks hot still. And then who's for a female would be good? You need someone that's like a little bit cray but like

Yeah. I was thinking, like, what's that girl's name? She dated Scott Dissick for like a hot minute. And now she's on, like, fans only. Oh, yeah. Was that Nicole Ritchie's sister or something like that? Oh, yeah, no, or her too. But wait, I'm dying.

I'm sending you this picture of Brink now. Yeah, Brinks the best. Oh, my God. Okay. Well, let's say Brink and, no, what is her name? God, I'm blanking on it. Yeah, he still looks good. Oh, he's got kids.

That doesn't matter. You can have kids and still beat The Bachelor. It doesn't matter. Yeah, of course. Yeah, he could have been cheated on by his two-time and no-good ex-wife. Yeah, but you think he's still cute enough? I mean, at this point, I don't even know, you know. What is it?

Wait, wait, wait, wait. The picture I'm looking at, in the background, it's say Adventures in Babysitting. Yeah, which, by the way, great movie. It's the best movie. Yeah. There you go. Elizabeth Shue. That should be the Bachelorette.

Oh, my gosh. Or her Michelle Pfeiffer. Oh, Michelle Pfeiffer would be good. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Wait. Adventures a baby scene. That movie's amazing.

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Oh, my God. Fun. Okay. Yeah. So, like, watching on TV, I'm like, that's so funny. I used to go, I made out with a girl named Nicole right over by that fountain. So we used to do a thing where we'd climb All the mountains look like giant Like rhinoceros turds all around the place or whatever And they're huge mountains and you can climb them But there's rattlesnakes There's rattlesnakes up in there

So we would climb them with a golf club Thinking that if a rattlesnake came after us We would definitely be able to fend off the rattlesnake With a golf club at like 12 years old I would love For them to go up into these mountains Matlin's armed with nothing but a seven iron and be like, get to the top and watch out for rattlesnakes and just watch like, uh... The panic, the sheer panics.

Yeah. I feel that. Yeah, I feel that. I am like, are you afraid of snakes, by the way? No, I had a snake growing up. His name was Slim. Stop it. Slim.

Yeah. He was cool. Okay, I'm not really afraid of snakes either. My friend had a pet snake and I, like, loved it. But if they're killer, okay, sure, I'm going to. going to be scared but i feel like that would be a good uh a good date to see like people's reaction because on my season um remember ben z yeah okay so he um we had to do one of those escape rooms and there's like maggots and all these like gross things and then we had to go into the bathroom

and like pick up a piece of paper and there was like six snakes in there and he was like freaking out and i'm like okay i'll do it and he's like no no i'll do it i'll do it and he was was acting like he was like such a like you know I'm a man I can do it but he was freaking out so badly and I was like no please let me I got this and it was so funny and I feel like that's like a good date to put a bunch of guys on like throw a bunch of snakes at them and see how they react okay so I heard that entire story but I was really focusing on how you said the word maggots oh maggots you know when you say a word too many times then it sounds wrong no matter how you say it?

Yes. That's what that says. Meggits. Wait, how do you say it? Well, I thought you said maggots, and I was like, oh, my God, I did. Is this, like, Canadians say, like, bagel and, like, maggots? Is this, like, a thing that I don't know about? I was just going to say, I've said this on my podcast before.

People call me out for how I say bagel. Yeah, I know. And the Canadians do that. It's weird. Wait, hold on. So here's what, now I'm revising my thing. Do you remember Joe wrote? Hogan show Fear Factor.

Of course. I would really love a fear factor date. And if you didn't let the cockroaches go up your butthole, then obviously fear is a factor and you don't get a rose and you have to go home. Okay, wait. If Sarah was the Bachelorette and she asked you to put a maggot up your butthole, would you do it? Just one megat? They're small, aren't they?

Okay, five. Five maggots. How far, how deep in am I to this? Am I, am I pot committed? Am I on week like seven here? Yes. Yeah, I think I'd do five, I'd do five megats if we're like, if I'm like top seven at this point. Okay, but what about if you were in the top ten?

No? I don't know. I have a little bit of dignity, all right? I would say, it's so nice. Only top seven would you consider? Let me ask you this. In that dodge ball date, they all stripped down and then got naked or some of them. of got naked, would, like, okay, obviously you wouldn't get naked, but like, would you,

or would Jason get naked? I think he would, because he's a good sport, but I think he'd be really uncomfortable with it, even though he's got a rock and bod. Yeah, but he might have a rock and bob, but he might be not packing that much heat, especially next to a bunch of football play. Like, there's like seven NFL guys there, you know, and then all of a sudden you're getting compared. Yeah, but are they really shown the hammers, or are they, like, covering it up with their hands?

how like i'm pretty sure they were covering up yeah i don't know though at some point but i the guy at home who was that joseph is that his name yeah joseph's gonna tear some shit up next episode and i'm excited for it oh i'm so here for the next episode um but that's he was like oh i wouldn't i wouldn't uh stripped down and like she humiliated the guys and i'm like if you think claire's picking those dates you don't know how the show works yeah i don't think any of them don't really know how this show works that you know what i should have got that hint when nobody asked to steal her it's funny a lot of them were like i mean i saw the episode where you were one pablo sent you home like nobody's really watched the show well yeah i can i can

attest to it because i was there and i yeah i met a bunch of the dudes and none of them knew who i was and not like it didn't it didn't hurt my ego at all if nothing else i was like oh you guys have no idea like what this you know like you this is great right you guys are just coming into this thing like just not knowing anything this is wonderful which does get me a little excited for the rest of the season because I think the more naive you are to the show the better TV but I'm I need to like circle back what are you like training to be Chris Harrison how come you're such a big part of the show now tell me the truth no I'm not they're just they're flying in every they I'm sure they asked you to do that well no what you're doing dancing with the stars but

No, but they did ask me to come out for something, but okay, but you're like they're there. Like, I feel like there's something going on that we don't know. And I'm, obviously, you can't say anything and you're, you might be like, Caitlin, there's actually nothing, but I think there is. Yeah, there's nothing. Okay, well, let me ask you this. Is there going to be a paradise? I think that's still up in the air. I mean, it's still up in the air.

We're also, we're not near that, you know, paradise is in June. So I think everyone's trying to figure out, I think they just want to, I think they want to wrap Bachelor and then decide what the next step is. Okay. Well, before we wrap this up, I want to know a couple things. The rumors. Okay, obviously, you probably know more than most people or maybe you don't. But if the rumors are true, Claire and Dale, now people were saying that Tasia comes in and then all these other people are there and that they're going to do like, all-in-one paradise and bachelor at season filming. Can you confirm or deny? I cannot say.

Okay. I will take that as a true. Just kidding. I will take that for what I think it is. But yeah. Okay. Well, I'm excited to see what happens. It's always tough in the first two episodes of any season to really get into it.

So thank you for humoring me in this little bachelor at recap. Yes. Thanks for having me. It's always fun to think that we're funny together. I think people laugh at us, not with us, and I am okay with it. If nothing else, it, like, really boosts both of our egos and self-esteems because we both will laugh at each other's stupid jokes, and that's all they're listening. Yeah, like, I walk away from this, and I'm going to go to Jason and be like, I'm pretty funny.

And then I can go to sleep with a smile on my face. Yeah, exactly. Me too. That's amazing. well oh one more thing before we go you guys had to your wedding was planned i'm sure you've talked about this till you're like blue in the face but your wedding was planned and you guys couldn't do it because of obviously 2020 but you celebrated it anyways which i thought was freaking adorable was that just like so cute anyways because you probably got to have like a little intimate day uh yeah it was i mean it was nice yeah we had we had that all kind of blocked off and yeah then it was like

what are you going to do you might as well like go celebrate that day like and also like are the people that we celebrated with are like in the wedding so they also had a blocked off so I knew everyone we knew everyone was free so it was like well let's just go celebrate no matter what and yeah it was great and it was really funny we we pranked everybody because everyone's like are you guys really getting married and like yours not telling us and um we were wasted like super drunk and I got up and I did like this toast and I was like you know thank you guys so much for for coming I really do a appreciate it.

It means a lot to us. And also, if you could, in 30 minutes, a pastor is coming. And we need everyone to go get dressed in their nicest clothes. And everyone lost their mind. And they were like, we knew it. We knew what's going to happen. And then you're like, JK, JK. My brother started crying.

I was like, dude, calm down. Yeah, he was like, I knew it. I knew it was going to happen. And it was a joke. I was like, I'm totally kidding. We're making pizzas. like relax oh my god that's amazing i love that i feel like if anyone's going to pull a prank at their wedding it would be you guys i always remember when you did a speech at carly and evans wedding

and you were like making fun of me for being a drunk and i was like touche wells touche yeah i know and also like hey pot meat kettle buddy that's actually when we became friends so i uh i loved that moment for both of us well it was also it was like it was a good litmus test for like what people could and couldn't take because I made fun of everybody and I remember I made fun of you. I obviously made fun of Evan and Carly and I made fun of Nick. Yeah, yeah. Nick and I are friends, but

like I learned that day that like he didn't love the light ribbing that I was giving him whereas you thought it was funny. So I was like, all right, I know my boundaries now, which is important in friendships. Oh, God, that's funny. Yeah, I remember looking over at him and he was not impressed, but I don't think he was

impressed the whole night. But then I was like, yeah, we're funny. We're on the same page. That's amazing. Well, can you tell everybody there that I say hello or, I mean, wherever you are, and let me know what you need to edit it out. But tell everybody I say hello and thank you so much. And let's do when your Wi-Fi isn't poop, let's do another recap.

Yeah, for sure. Let me know. I will for sure. And wait, when did you start your new podcast? Well, so I had been doing it for a while. It was originally the Pratt cast when the Hills was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was doing it with Stephanie Pratt to, like, recap the hills,

and then that show ended, and she moved to London, and so then they were like, what do you, what should we do? And so then I just turned that show into, like, me talking to celebrities about, like, their origin. I'm always interested, like, how people became famous. Like, I don't give a shit that you're famous now. I want to know how you got famous. Like, that's interesting to me. So that's what that show is, is just me talking to famous people and being like, yeah,

I don't care now they have the boot check mark. I wanted to know, like, how many people you had to, like... Yeah, what was your grind? Yeah, exactly. Like, how many backs did you have to stab? How many Bennett's did you have to go through to get to this point? Because there is always a story to that. Oh, that's cool.

I love that idea. And then you still have your podcast with Brandy, right? Yeah, and so YFT is a show I do with Brandy Cyrus, who's Miley and Noah's sister. And we talk about our favorite things, which generally is books, music, TV, movies. and then we do like a little batch, not like a whole lot of bachelor stuff, but we definitely do a bachelor recap because she's now like obsessed. At first she would not like it.

And now she's totally a part of bachelor nation. That's amazing. Oh, I love it. Well, I mean, whatever you have going on, you always do so good at everything you do. You're just good at what you do, podcasting, hosting, whatever it is you're doing. You're good at it. So I'm a little bit drunk. So I'm just going to shut up.

I'm too. Hey, by the way, we've been watching. We're very, Sarah and I are very proud of you. I must say, we're talking about dancing with stars. I must say that, like, I know that you have been wanting to do this for a long time. Yeah. Like, it's no secret. Like, you, like, you wanted to do dancing with the stars. And then you got a really tough, like, draw. Like, there's a lot of really good dancers. And I do think that you're the best, but, like, I think it's good bad like you're gonna you're like i do think that you are going to win this i do think you're the best answer um but i also think it's going to be like the most satisfying because i think this is like the toughest field this such a nerdy why i know this much about the stars is ridiculous but i do

and like this is like one of the toughest fields i love it a long time okay i agree it's everybody has something to offer on this season like i even find myself rooting for everybody who's here and like when vernon left i'm like yeah he wasn't the best dancer but like i love him as a human being and we all get along so well and we're like i can't even imagine who's in the bottom two next week because everybody is so good totally and then also like then you have like black horses you're like or wild cards you're like i didn't know the guy from catfish is good like where did the guy from catfish come from you know he's literally i think going to be in the top too like he's in my eyes he uh johnny weir and neve are like the top competitors yeah so i

sarah and i've talked about it i think it's you and nev in the end and i think really i do i think it's me viacom versus disney who's gonna come out on top k but it's so funny because it's also um i talked to hannah b about this where it's like it's in some way of popularity contest because some people could think I have an advantage for being a dancer but I'm like well you have freaking six million followers and it's a voting competition like who really is going to win I don't know well yeah but uh Neve was a dancer he grew up as a dancer yeah but nobody seems to remember that part yeah I'm telling you people are going to realize it in there anyways all that to be said you're you're doing really really good like it's thank you it's really impressive to see and

And I do think you're going to win, and I hope you do win. And when you do win, I think it's going to be all that much more, like, rewarding because you know that, like, you really went against, like, some really, like, tough dudes. Like, the year that, like, um, grocery store Joe, he was, like, in the end, he was terrible, you know? Like, there was, like, what? But let me tell you something. I have made some serious, um, like, bets in, in winning. So, if I, first of all, I said, if Justin Bieber tweets or, like, says anything to me because I dance to a song, I would get his face tattooed on me. Then I said if I win the mirror ball, I'll get a mirror ball tattooed on me.

Then I also said I would poke holes in Jason's condom if I won because I want to have babies now. Like, I made a lot of serious bets if I win this mirror ball. So I'm like, at this point, I feel like they're like, let's see if she'll do it. You're like a bad crackhead addict. You're like, I'll do anything for this thing. I really am. I'm kind of a psychopath. I should probably tone it down.

But that's just how bad I want it. And that's how I'm like, I'll do anything. Well, I think that's probably how you should be for anything that you want, you know. There you go. Just full-blown desperate. So thank you for saying all the kind things and being on the pod. And let's do it again sometime. All right.

See ya, Caitlin. I also tell Jason and I say, goodbye. I will for sure. Okay, have a good night, Wells. All right, dude. Goodbye. All right, everybody. I hope you saw my Instagram that I was podcasting with Hannah Brown last week. So let me tell you it was a freaking good one. We could not stop talking to the point where it was like two hours in and we're like, okay, wine's flowing. Let's split this into a two-parter for you. So you've got double Hannah B coming to you next week. Part one of that is coming next week on Tuesday. And her confessional loan is

going to want to make you listen. So tune in for that. Thank you, everybody. Your session is now ending. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Tune in to hear new minisodes every Thursday and check out new full-length episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcast.com, the Podcast One app, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts.