Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Bachelorette recap with Carly Waddell and Evan Bass

Episode Date: July 19, 2018

Kaitlyn recaps the latest episode of The Bachelorette with friends and fellow Bachelor alums Carly Waddell and Evan Bass. Listen in as they talk about potential Bachelors, running late to weddings, and answer questions from fans like you. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Podcast One presents Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Caitlin Bristow's going to answer your questions. Drink to your confessions and hear what you have to say about anything Bachelor. Let's shake it up some more. Here's Caitlin. Welcome to Grape Therapy. Your session is now starting. I love how I call it Grape Therapy, but really we're just Bachelor.

recapping like it's nothing deep at all sometimes it's therapeutic to talk about these things yeah exactly yeah evan agrees we've got carly and evan uh evan's just like on our screen in front of us carly's beside me and it's kind of nice i just want you to know that evan um earlier right i called him and when i was convinced there was a ghost in my house but found out it was just a candle smell i walked through um and he said should i put clothes on for this and i said unless you want to to, Caitlin, to see you naked, I would prefer that you do. Well, I would only see the top half. It's not like I'm going to see his dog hanging.

Right. That's true. But I don't know, look, he doesn't have it propped up on anything. I think he's just holding it. Maybe you don't have pants on. He probably has underwear on, maybe. I actually did a podcast today. I did Jenna Kutcher's podcast. And I didn't have pants on the whole time, and it felt really good.

I was like, this is why I love podcasts. Yes. Or whatever app. Yeah. that's true it's amazing um so usually i have notes written down but i was like i got carly and evan and you guys are pretty good at ad libing and i mean we're all good at talking about the bachelorette so i figure we'll just go through all the dates say all of the feelings and maybe talk about jason's hair yeah it definitely needs talking about it's just i mean it says a lot about his confidence

here's what i'm wondering okay so it's like is oily or jelly and i'm wondering if you touched it would it be hard or would it be like like greasy which one do you think well i saw a little what would what be hard his hair that's not funny i am not i don't think about his dick okay dick jokes i don't think about it at all i told you i told you that he is not attractive to me at all i like his oh come on i did tell you but i mean like i do like his personality and confidence some people are saying bachelor um potential no yeah yeah yes do you think so Evan what yes and you're insane he's like he's like he's my favorite like hands down he's underrated he's like like flown under the radar he said that in his hometown it's so true he's like like like the guy

that's just like here and he's like a good guy and he's got a great family and he's like got this like hair thing and if he and if he fix his hair like the the bachelor thing would be amazing they'd be like Oh, my God. It'd be like, transformative. I just don't. I don't know. I also feel like, okay, I just feel like he hasn't. We haven't seen as much from him.

He kind of shined this episode, though. Oh, yeah. I mean, for Jason, he shone. Yes. He shoned. He shoned. Is that what we're calling it? Sean shines.

So he shone. He shone. He really shone this episode. You are shawning today. But we should just ask him. I mean, we could probably just tweet him. And he would probably tell us. of his hair is hard or greasy.

I think we should. I don't know why we wouldn't. Evan, get on it. Evan, your cat is right in my face. She just really wants it. She's so cute, but I'm allergic. Oh, you are? Yeah, but it doesn't.

Want me to put her downstairs? No, it doesn't do anything to me. It's the weirdest thing. I actually went and got allergy tested. Then you're not allergic. No, but it said I am allergic to cats, but I don't feel anything when they're around. Oh, I see. That's so weird.

I think maybe you got someone else's allergy test. Maybe I did. And also said I'm allergic to grass. Oh, weird. But that don't stop me from smoking it. Just kidding. That was a bad joke. Well played.

Okay. Wait, but let's go back to this. Who's the next Bachelor thing? Who do you think? Ben Higgins? You know what is so funny? As I was watching Ashley and Rachel and Brian today on Access Hollywood. They were doing a recap.

And Ashley just flew in with this. Well, if they went in the past, it would probably just be Ben. Higgins again. And you know she does a podcast with them. So my guess, why would she have said that so loudly if he hadn't been asked? And Chris Harrison said on my podcast, they would love to have him as The Bachelor again. But then she also said he wouldn't do it again. I don't think he would because it messes you up, man. I don't know how you do it twice. I'm like, wait, who was that other person that did it twice? Um, Brad Womack. Yes. And it didn't work out with him either time. Yeah. I feel like you'd know too much going in the

second time and like i feel like ben had a really hard time and like a really tough breakup so i can't see him being like yeah i'll sign up for that again when it's like you know what are they going to pay him to be the bachelor six figures yes like a hundred thousand dollars let's say if they really want him right he's going to turn that down because he can easily just do that with three big brand deals yeah he doesn't have to be the bachelor going to go through all of that hell for 12 weeks to find somebody that he might work out with when he can like find somebody in the real world and make that same money and also do we even know like he could be dating someone we don't know any of this information i feel like i've heard rumors but i'm like i don't know it's it's all rumors at this point

because i don't know it's not like i call ben up on a tuesday i do but i'm not bragging so jason for bachelor no it's what evan thinks but i don't know i i don't think girls would get down with the hair and i think even if they cut the hair i don't know. So, well, okay, let's, we don't know who she picks. I mean, maybe we do, maybe we don't, but we're not going to say it. Right. So I've talked about this before. You know that Wells Fargo is a company with a storied past, and a big part of that past was built around building trust. Back in the day when the country headed west for gold, Wells Fargo was the bank trusted to bring it back east. Now, somewhere along the way, Wells Fargo lost their way. So now they're working hard

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I was like, you guys are going to plant tomatoes and reminds me so much of crystals, just the good old boy from the farm, you know. And then he, I didn't realize that he was the good old boy from the farm. And then I was like, oh, no, I was right. It threw me off. Because I was like, wait, I thought you were a medical sales rep. What does that mean? Is that what he is?

Yeah, is that, Evan, is that what your job was? no no it's not but he just sells he just sells drugs to doctors that's that's what you know medical like that's typical like athlete after being an athlete job like you know medical sales reps uh so many people in nashville are medical sales reps it is such a common yeah it's huge that and personal trainers you know drug yeah drug companies pay these guys or girls to go and like you know talk to doctors about the new medications or the current medications that are out there so yeah it's like you know if they can get the doctors prescribe more, then they get paid a lot.

Well, then he's going to make a lot more money now. Yeah, he's, you know, then you get him a little. I do it again. But I have a question. So, no, I lost it. Would you buy testosterone from him? Yeah. Testosterone, no.

Could he sell you a ketchup flavored popsicle in white gloves? He's just like a happy, you know, he's a happy guy. Let's talk about that. But here's the question. So I remember, and this is not. really proving any point. I think it's a new point. But, um, so I remember when Desiree came over to our house when it was the hometowns. Yes. She said about my brother Zach, well, you know, I just feel like, and we talked about this the other day, he just doesn't have like any dark parts about him. And that

really worries me because he always just has this smiley, you know, fun, happy go lucky way about him. Right. And that I'm just waiting for like the bad part to like come out. And we were both talking kately and i the other day about how we just don't really we haven't you know been through anything really dark and we just don't have that about us yeah so i'm like judging him because i'm like also where you know you're so smiley where's the bad part i know but maybe it's not maybe he doesn't maybe he doesn't and maybe what he's saying is true that it was all of his ex that he's just this good old country boy who's trying to be happy and just wanted a family and so he tried to like do the right thing but she just sucked the life right out of him what is what it sounds like

But, and they were saying this on the, on Ashley's thing today, was he was like either with this girl for like three, three to six years. They couldn't remember the number. And then only married for two months. So that's weird. And how does she not come out and said anything yet? Because he is really dragging her. Yeah.

It's bad. And it's just, I feel like, it's like, what are we missing there? Yeah. So we're not, we're not hearing something. And the family is so, I mean, who knows? she might be very crazy. I'm familiar with crazy ex- we're like waiting for it.

Edit, not edit. No comment. Evan's not allowed to, but I am. But I am. But like, I mean, she could be the worst and they could be totally right. Because we were saying that Ashley said on Access Hollywood, so many shadows to Ashley right now. She has good information.

She does. but but it's true like what is behind those smiley eyes right and and eyes are supposed to be the windows into your soul but i'm seeing a lot of like rainbows yeah you know what though he did have a moment um when it said like what's coming up in the future episode and he got really teary eyed talking about how he was like you know this is just my girl and like i really just see us together or whatever and he was like almost like cryy and i was like oh i see something there okay yeah good so there's something because i think there's something to be said that Evan, do you love that we have involved you in this podcast when you're not getting a worded? I'm just happy to be here. I'm being very smiley over here. You're like all of Becca's four last guys. You're just happy to be here. Exactly. But I do feel like there's something to be said that the ex hasn't come out and like rebuttal at all. Like she hasn't said anything. And maybe it's because she's like, you know what? Fair enough. Touche. I was a piece of poop. Or she's just taking the high road because she's like, none of this is true, but I'm just not going to be

involved in this drama yeah you never know if there's you just if there's one thing i've learned is that when someone you know says negative things about you to people like it never pays off to like respond like you can't say if someone trashes you like just you know responding to it just glorifies it you just have to like let it go so i think she she may have learned that social media lesson or whatever which is crazy because i mean who is she i know who is she this mystery woman that everyone is talking about yeah i wonder and because the family seems pretty protective of him and said like basically the sister said yes he she sucked the life out of you like I think she said those words yeah and she was very emotional

about it yeah which I mean they probably all the guys have kind of had a rough go if you think about it but yeah I don't know I like Garrett and I hope what we see is what we get because he seems great and she you can tell she really like oh yeah and there's like a connection the way she looks at him is there's a huge thing there. Which is a great feeling. And she said he's my dad. Yeah. You can't, I mean, women look for their dad. They really do. Yeah. They really It's such a compliment. Yeah. Sean really is lacking in the

mustache department then. Be my dad. Well, we can't have everything. That might get a little weird, but, uh, you know, I was, I was on Twitter last night. Yeah. And like, all these people were like trashing his family. And, I thought that was really, Garrett's family. They were like, you know,

they're so boring and they're so vanilla and they're so like all these things. And I'm like, feel so bad for these families. Like they didn't sign up to be on the show. Like, they just are there.

And they're trying to do their best. They're trying to like do their best to like support their son here and, you know, daughters are the other one. And it's like. I really liked his family. I did too.

I thought they were great. I know. I was hilarious and enough like emotion. His mom was very sweet and like concerned. But you could tell she's like the glue of the family. family. Totally. He had good siblings. He made a good totally. There was like people people said stuff about him like, you know, I don't know. I don't pay attention to like the extraneous things on the show. I only watch the show because I want to like, you know, disconnect from like life and just like have something like watch. What's so wrong with your life? Yeah. No. Like why do you need to disconnect? Why do you need to disconnect? This is great. I am your life. It's great therapy. Talk to. Can we just like, can we just like admit though? This is like it's trash TV. Okay. Like yes, it all worked out for us. I wouldn't say that because we've had. We've had that comment come at us a lot in the past year. And I think you should say, no, it's not.

We found love. It's not trash TV. No, we, yes, we were like the outliers. It is, but no, it's like, it's just like, you know, easy to watch and it's mindless. It's not trash. It's like the recyclables. You know what is trash? The proposal.

The proposal is just terrible. It's like taking us all back so many years. Oh, wow. It's a joke. It's horrible. Is your cat, okay? Yeah, no. She just sleeps like that.

I need to take the show is beautiful though right like it's beautiful and it's a mess and it's like just that's just what it is and that's okay like yeah but it's not like it's nothing more than that like it's just like you know it works out for us but that's because we're in it but for people

watching for the vast majority of the millions of people that watch it it's just like something like to do on a Monday or Tuesday night like it's trash TV people get very invested in the love stories oh I'd say also has he said, I love you to her? Because everybody...

He said, I'm in love with you. He said I'm in love, but he didn't say... Oh, he did that? I can't remember. Wow. Evan? Great memories. Do you remember that?

Which one? Garrett. Yeah, I think he did. I think he said, I think he said, I'm in love with you. I can't remember. Yeah. Anyway, let's go through this. If she picks Garrett, great.

If she doesn't, is he bachelor material? He would be like chrysles, but yes. Yeah, I think you're right, Carly. He is like chrissled. Yeah. I don't know. no I just mean it on TV not like just on TV yes okay yeah well and let's not more of a personality I'm not trying to disc crystals at all I never am because right it got all of us to where we are today

and find there's a reason for everything yes but to me I think do you remember Garrett's opening package to me he's got such a personality that we're just not seen yeah that and gosh so much it's edited out I mean so much like you know you don't know what he's doing I mean we were just about how they did like an extra scene of Whitney and she had a garter on and had Chris like go up her skirt and like take her garter off and we're like whoa yeah that wasn't on the show that was just should be yeah there's so much we miss I know and that's why it's hard to just always like go from what we see because we also know there's so much more right but I really try hard to do that just just purely off a TV like who cares about all the other stuff like I just you know that's that's my personal like yeah so would you see Garrett as the bachelor no okay wait what What, how do you see Jason and not Garrett? Well, I haven't seen. Okay, okay.

So, so if we're moving on to, to Garrett, like, again, he's just, like, happy and he's always saying, like, interesting, you know, or not an uninteresting things. With Jason, Jason, like, made me, like, I was almost in tears, listening to this stuff he was saying. It was so heartfelt and deep. You're right. And Garrett's just, like, you know, in cruise controls, saying, like, I'm falling for this girl, and this is great.

This is awesome. I've never felt like this war. But Jason, he's like, I don't know, I feel like there's real. substance to the guy that connects with me at least she has really liked him the whole time yeah and she's said that a lot yeah and i think well she said he's the best kisser too she did say that that means a lot you have fun in that fantasy sweet girl no kidding but but yeah i don't know i think there's something about jason who i feel like he's confident in who he is i think he like he said keeps his heart guarded but i think he knows he has a lot to offer yeah

So I don't see him as Bachelor because I'm like he doesn't have a sob story. He doesn't have the story. You know, like what would be his thing? But if when he gets kicked off, maybe that's the thing. Maybe it's like, oh, wow, that was so sad. I guess that was me. I didn't really have a story. I just like let my guard down and the gut humiliated.

I don't think Jason, you know, and I don't want to be skipping ahead. But I don't think Jason makes it past, you know, I don't think he gets to hometowns if the whole Tia and Colton thing. didn't happen he does get wait but colton oh i'm saying if if i don't i think jason i think jason gets cut this episode if the tia colton thing didn't happen oh i see what you're saying yeah yeah yeah yeah because i i don't yeah because i don't think he was he was as far along um as t as uh as beck and colton i think he's just like a good like oh i like to make out with him i'm attracted to him he's fun but I'm so much further along with the other two that he's a nice little ride along

for the final three. I totally agree. What was their date? Oh, they went ice skating. Yes. I was like, oh my gosh, this guy is such a Canadian hockey player, but it's like Buffalo.

They're kind of like Canadians. Right, right, right. But he was, I love that he calls her Bexter because I for some reason keep calling her that. Really? In my head, yeah. When he said that, I was like, oh my gosh, but I'm not going to lie.

This is a little bit of a chirp. And I'm sorry, Jason. We've already dissed your hair. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Just like a little update. Ashley thinks it's amazing throwback, by the way. Again, Ashley, he's got Andrew Keegan vibes.

Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So I see the 90s heart throw up hair vibes. I get it. But Jason, I don't mean to throw you under the bus again, but did you really come out of the womb on skates like you said?

Because he didn't seem like the greatest skater. No. She was not a good skater. He seemed better than him. He didn't. And he didn't take a great shot, honestly. When he shot that, that goal, it was sort of, you know, that took, like, a few edits, too. It's not like he just, like, he didn't get that first try.

And then he threw out, like, a happy Gilmore thing where he was like, if I get this shot, I get to kiss you. And then I'm like, why don't you just play endless love in the dark and quote, happy, was it happy Gilmore? Yeah, happy Gilmore. Yes. Yeah. I mean, if she'd ever played hockey before, she would, she would have blocked that shot, to be honest. wait what is the right at her i'm trying to think of friends don't listen to endless love in the dark anyways nobody gets what i'm saying um i'm like i'm like 70% with you maybe 50 okay i'll take it

i'll take it usually people aren't that much with me so um but yeah i just was like jason for coming he's like i i was born with skates on and my dad coached me through the whole i was like you looked a little shaky out there but at least he wasn't falling like crystals in our day oh that was bad that's when i knew he wasn't the one you sure faked it for another episode two more episodes I'm just kidding but I did find it a turn off because I was like everyone in Canada could skate and it's hot but anyways Jason so Jason his family his family

I even though we're out of order but that's okay that's okay I really loved his family I did too Jason his uh I know his brothers his brother yes was married yes to a man they're so sweet they're so cute and they're so smart and well spoken so smart i when they were talking i was like oh this is for intellectuals yes and also the way he was talking about love i was like they are so in love you know yeah they seemed so sweet and everybody that's got to hometowns has really like solid families yes no did you notice that there's no

hometown drama no crazy family would i wish mom i know like come on something i mean the drama was tia obviously but they needed something and maybe that's why they threw her on there anyway. It is crazy. There really was no families that you're like, oh wow, that's a tough family. Right. Everyone kind of just was like, we're a really solid family and we all have like great support and you better not hurt his feelings. That would be tough. It was so

funny. Here I am jumping again. When Colton said, my mom and I have the best relationship. My dad and I have like coach player. I know. I was like, oh no. I know. It was so weird. And then when it is down, it's like, I don't want you to pick him if you don't really want him. I was like, oh man, that's

so weird. Anyway, back to Jason's family great I'm trying to think of if we're missing anything from Jason the wings eating kind of made me want wings yeah I don't know Evan pipe down over there I know Evan say things listen you too are you got it like okay Blake then if I'm Blake what Blake has like Blake has the her favorite singer you can't beat that yeah and you know he didn't do it the producers did and he gets all the cred and people People love like, yes. And they're really given him a solid love story.

Like, it's going to be shocking if she doesn't pick him. Yeah. And also, I hated his red bow tie. I'm not a big bow tie guy. I love, well, you're a girl, but I like bow ties a lot. Oh, you do? That one was bad. I don't like it was shiny.

I feel like you're over. It's like a compensating with bow ties. I feel like, Evan, what do you think about bow ties? But Evan's kind of funny, so I feel like you could pull it off. I think it would be so cute. I really like bow ties. with a tux. Like, I mean, it's fun to, like, dress up in a tux and then wear a bowtie. Like, but that's really it.

Yeah. Yeah. Our pediatrician wears a bow tie and I like him. Yeah, we do like him. Oh, see, that's cute. Yeah. That's cute. That's why we chose him, actually, because he came in a bow tie.

Yeah, I was like, I like that guy. It's true. It's actually true. But not for Block A. I like that you call him that. Like, but I do feel like he's getting a Bachelor edit. Yes. Just in case, Ben says no.

So, okay. So I was 100% wondering. I was, okay, when he took her. to his high school. I was like, so you're trapped in high school. Okay. Yes. Right?

But then the story. And I was like, this is heavy. Heavy and heartbreaking. And then I got it. But at first, I was really anti what was happening. And then I was like, whoa. I was on the same page as you because I was like, okay, he's like, I really want Becca to see the man I am.

So I'm taking her to my high school. And I was like, oh, no. I've been here in years. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I've been here in years. but then what happened to the man like and and he's throwing the football I'm like oh no he's that guy I know living in high school but now I understand because that is such a tragic tragic awful

story that his school was a victim to a school shooting oh my gosh I know and then my heart just sunk and then I was like actually that probably would be a very pivotal time in his life and a very important time and and also when his parents were going through things and I was like okay if you're going to take somebody to your hometown like if I took somebody to my Leduc Alberta hometown like kind of high school is all I'd have to show too and especially if there was some like really heavy things that went down that shaped me into who I was it would make a lot of sense but I was on the same page as you I was like oh no

he's living in his past can't get through high school then I was like okay it actually shaped you I get it so also with that I read something today that said so you know how his mom had an affair so she had an affair with a teacher at that school because she was a teacher right and I was like oh that also wait do we know that yes with like the English teacher or something oh yeah that's right but they didn't repeat it on this one I do worry about why didn't they repeat that yeah I'm surprised they didn't maybe they did but they just took it out I just feel bad because mom seems like just a lovely lady lovely and so I wonder how she will handle

with that kind of like you know he had to share that to be vulnerable and honest and to again he's very open with what like what has gotten him to where he is today yes and so I wonder if his mom will be like because you got to be somewhat proud of him for being so vulnerable because he clearly went through a tough heartbreak right it just feels like Garrett and Blake went through a real rough heartbreak but I feel like it's just so crazy um that she keeps saying like that the the relationship with him is the strongest she said he told me you love me I the feelings are mutual I haven't said it yet yeah yeah it's right I was like whoa yeah that was big big because she could have said that about other people,

but they're only showing it about him, right? Which is crazy. But yeah, I'm like, because they do. And then I'm just like wondering, I'm like, okay, how are the next few weeks going to play out? Because, I mean, we either do or we don't know what happens. But I'm just so curious because she has a very solid relationship with each guy right now. Yes.

Like, very solid. Like, they're all good. And I feel like Jason really stepped it up this week. Yeah. He's Sean, whatever we're saying. Sean. And he was there. And he was there.

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and Apple Podcasts, and also remember to rate and review. You're listening to Off the Vine Race Therapy. Okay, so we saw Colton's hometown date. I love his mom. Remind me of... She is just so much like him. She's just... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she looks exactly the same.

Yeah. He also looks exactly like his dad. Yeah, so he looks like both. But she was just so supportive and sweet... About the what? Nothing. About the male... What?

What are we concerned about? Drunky over there? What are you talking about? And then's drunk with no pants on guys talking shit over there. How dare you. But with Colts and I was like, it was just so weird because I'm like, I feel like they were really pushing him to talk about the virgin thing. The fact that he stopped Chris Harrison before going in was like,

I'm concerned about fantasy suites. No, you're not. Producers told you to say that because if you have been a virgin for this long, you're fine with going into a fantasy suite and actually just having a like good conversation and making out with somebody. It's not a scary thing. It's not like there's all this pressure for the fantasy suites. Many people have gone in and not did the damn thing.

I said it. Ew. So maybe he didn't know that though. Maybe he hasn't been like an avid watcher. And he was, you know, and like they were like, he was like, well, maybe I should ask Chris Harrison. And frankly, Chris Harrison's reaction was like my favorite thing of all time. He was like completely like, you should, you should know what to do here, buddy. Like his facial expressions were everything.

Yeah. I don't know. It's just so weird. But yeah, I thought his hometown was like, wait, what did he do? Oh, he went to the Children's Hospital. Oh, that was so sweet. Very sweet. So sweet. And then I'm like, they've already, it's out there that he's going on Paradise.

Yes. And, you know, this episode or this podcast shouldn't be called grape therapy. It should always be called like spoiler alerts for people. Oh, yeah. Sorry. But he has, I mean, he is the next Sean Lowe if they wanted him to be next bachelor yeah that's so true and so for he is a virgin and Sean was a born again oh is Sean a born again I think so Sean had a um Sean Lowe had a billboard in Nashville that said it was

massive by the YMCA downtown that said the virgin bachelor hold on I'm did I make that up I really think he was a born again someone's going to shirt me if I'm wrong well no you're just saying you think so but maybe he wasn't he might not be I don't I don't know but I just feel like Colton has like like everything like i'm like that's crazy to me that he's going on paradise because i'm like he looks like he would be the next bachelor yeah and i'm curious how he's going to be portrayed on paradise yeah me too well oh i can't wait we shall see i can't wait i'm so excited paradise is such good tv you know i'm gonna do i'm just going to hand over my grape therapy episodes to evan to do bachelor in paradise recaps oh my god oh my god i'll pay you i'm here for it i'm here

for it i'll pay you in wine it's the best show on tv come there's nothing better it's you know what i was so against it till i actually watched it and then i was like wait this is gold yeah who are you the most excited to see on paradise heaven well i'm excited to see jordan uh male model jordan i mean we we need to explore the depths of his narcissism and i think that's going to be fantastic and uh grocery store joe because he got two seconds and everyone's like you know who wouldn't do that to her grocery store joe people live for grocery store joe it's so funny he was i can believe the response to him. It's so weird. At the same time, I could. My sister was just like, yes.

Loved it. Good for him. The most celebrated night one cast off in the back of her history. Ever. He had the cutest hometown package. Why did she send him home? I don't know. She's dumb. So, that's what I got to ask her. Well, we were talking to one of the producers and it was like, you know, a lot of people have like really great packages where they show these things. And then they show up and then just kind of sit on the couch and freeze. And I guess that's what happened with groceries to jail like no interaction and like wasn't very like you know and that's kind of a typical

that would be a normal reaction you go into a mansion where there's like cameras and all these like guys and like you know you're just just like shut down like which is so funny because remember that's what like Becca and Sam did night one like I don't think what they didn't like talk to Chris they were so nervous they sat on the couch oh man wasn't it Becca or was it I don't I don't remember that happening there's a tea there's some girl that names a oh yeah um uh not trina maybe your name doesn't start with the tea tracy no but maybe oh no i'm bad right now i can't remember terra no no tarra no tar no tar no tar was great tea's a lot of tea names i you know what i did i took him to break dance and then never got to talk to again they're like you'll get a chance

to talk to him again and then it came roll ceremony and i was like oh my god i didn't even talk to him how to freaking break dance and told them i wanted to plow's field oh my god i made a little fortune thing like one of those um what did these things oh yeah origami origami fortune things and i had questions in it oh and then i don't even think they showed that and then like not the next bachelor uh but maybe the next bachelor somebody did that same thing and i got so pissed you're like because i was like some producer told them to do that and that was my ething idea how much do you think producers hate all the platforms we have now to spill their secrets like how much do you think like podcasts instagram stories twitter everything we're

like just spilling the deeds it's like uh everyone's like why you eat on dates uh because they feed us before how do you remember their names it's an editing trick what about the roses they're magnets and they're like can you leave some like secret to the show until it hurts the ratings who cares they i don't think they will it ever hurt the ratings do you guys think the show's going anywhere no no no i don't think the show will ever yeah into a graveyard and never to be seeing again, like hopefully fingers crossed.

It's like the saddest pageant there ever has been. It's actually just... It's sad. It's sad. It's like I couldn't. I turned it off because I was like, this is sad. And I love it. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's... I mean, I watch it. You're like, wow. I'm like, this is sad. Like, obviously the heart surgeon's

going to choose the model. Yeah, but I hate that. I know. It's gross. Um, it is painful. Chris Harrison said that he was going to throw on the towel in about four years. You think that show's still going to last without him? Ooh.

Is that why they are having that one guy do the proposal? Is he taking over? Oh, because he's there. Oh, Chris Harrison. Oh, is he? Oh, he's like,

this is the proposal. He's not, no one will ever be Chris Harrison. No. I say if they get Ryan Seacrest, maybe. Oh, yeah, maybe. But there's no way.

There is a way. Sechrest has the emotional capacity to be Chris Harrison. I do love Ryan Seacrest, though. Ryan and Kelly is so good. Kelly and Ryan. I love that show. Wait, can we get Kelly to be the next Chris Harrison? She hates the show so much.

Exactly. Yeah. They would never, no, they're going to, I honestly think that show cannot survive without Chris Harrison. Yeah. It's just such a ratings monster. I don't understand how his following is in like 80s. million that guy deserves it he does i love him so much i love him he's the best i'm

babe remember that one time we were at our wedding and then chriserson was there and then like after the wedding we saw his kids sneaking away realizing that they've watched the whole wedding wedding from like behind the bush yeah it's amazing i'm so bad that was so funny i love his i was like we would have just had them in the in the audience like come on in the audience the audience of your wedding performance whatever it's called for a wedding i still think about your guys wedding probably more often than I should remember that time we ran in late to a very important wedding that was that was one of the most embarrassing moments of my entire life my career well I blame our haunted house so that no it was my fault because remember I thought it was

at the place but you had pregnancy brain so you're forgiving no I was looking at the email and the email said an address but the address was not the address it's true It wasn't super confusing. Here's the backstory. Tell them what happened. Here's the backstory. Whitney got married to Ricky,

Whitney, who we were all on Crissol's season with. She got married, not to Chris Sol's. Pause. And so she got married to Ricky. And she's like, she was like,

you know, this wedding was very important to her. And every little detail, you know, it was like you, and Ricky even had said, like, you do not show up late.

And we were going to get there early. And we were going to get there early and everything was right. But we decided like we were staying in this cottage together, me, Evan, Carly and Sean B. And we were all like, we were all doing so well for timing. And then Carly checked the email. We got the wrong address. And then I messaged Ricky as he's like probably standing there. Oh, waiting for her to come down the aisle.

And I said, Ricky, is this the address? He goes, oh my gosh. No. He goes, you better hurry. And then we're like, oh. And we all ran in as Whitney was walking down the aisle and sat on the wrong side. I know. We were on Ricky's side, which we love Ricky too and he didn't care.

But we were all, I was like in the front row or second row with Evan. And we were like sitting next to his family. And then Caitlin and Sean were like five rows back. And I, and Whitney just looks over like. I mean, you guys, we. As she should. It was like on this lake ocean bay. Something.

And it was so beautiful. and it was just all these chairs set up in the middle of this like I don't not garden but like courtyard area so there's nothing around it there's grass and then chair set up on this body of water and and so there was no way there was stairs walking down where she walked down and the bar bridal party and groups went down and then there was just this other side and so when you ran in everyone saw it was horrible and the reason the wrong address was like like the address for like if you wanted to go get your hair done or something yeah beforehand it was totally my bad I was super pregnant I'm so embarrassed that's okay the worst thing ever it's okay because

you know it would have been worse if we missed the wedding and we made it for her walking down I mean it was only like 30 seconds before but we did make it and you know what out of that whole weekend what wedding Whitney got married and we made an absolutely brilliant breathtaking short fill called the Cape Cottage. I don't think it was underrated. I think people really appreciated that. I think they still can. I think if you guys go to YouTube and YouTube the Cape Cottage,

you will be in for a treat. Also, watch it like maybe when it's a little bit dark outside. Maybe when you're alone. October 29th, we're doing a re-release with behind the scenes footage. Yes, we are. It's actually so great. That's a great idea. That was one of the most fun weekend.

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Evan, would you rather wear nothing but Bella's diaper for 48 hours? or wear a necklace made from her baby teeth to her graduation and wedding. What? I wouldn't mind doing both of those things. Bailey Van Vortz. We love our daughter so much. We would do both.

Oh. Wow, I did not see that coming. Is there poop in there? Yeah. There's poop in the diaper. Yeah. I would rather wear a baby teeth. I'm going to save them anyway.

Maybe. I would save a time. That's really strange. I don't know. You know what? I was watching a show the other day in this person, oh, queer I.

This person had saved their daughter's baby teeth and put them in a basket on the side of their bed what even was that that was so weird i'm not doing that it's going to be like in a baby book well yeah baby book fine this is like right by their bed yikes that was weird um all right so we'll go with teeth oh oh this is a good question kembri nine two why didn't i think of this question for the bachelor at recap pod why didn't becca explain to colton the conversation she had with tia and that that was the reason she was maybe letting him go why did she have that conversation with him uh because she wanted to be her decision not based on tia to him because she's freaking pissed who is becca Becca yeah maybe she's just hiding it

and she's really mad she's trying to play cool feeling watching this back now oh my gosh did you like an idiot no so tia today um posted on her social media this person had written her something so nasty and she said basically I have turned off all of my DMs I am not posting for I don't know something because people are being so mean right now

that it's almost laughable but like what but like I'm a human being and you're being sick yes people and you got so much stuff like that like you'll probably look at that and be like that's nothing but it was like major scary bad stuff it's actually I feel like when we started going on the show is when social media was really like blowing up right and i couldn't believe

what people said like still but you know what i tweeted about big brother and i've never received the kind of hate in my life no way you see something about controversial no i said there's a guy name's swaggy c and he's he called himself swaggy c his name is actually christopher and he was like yo swaggy c's in the house and he was like swaggy c is going to win this and swaggy c is running and i was like swaggy c can you not refer to yourself in the third person of a self-proclaimed nickname like um but then i said but i like that you're a babysitter because he's a babysitter i thought it was sweet people call me a racist c-u-n-t what yes and we're going nuts on me and then You're kidding.

No. That's insane. To the point where I was like, I feel sick to my son that people could talk to me like this and being like, oh, you're like. And then what do you do? Do you delete it? Do you just leave it? Do you like respond to it?

Do you not respond to it? There's no good way. Swaggy C called me out and that's why people started going nuts on me. And I said, Swaggy. I said, may I drop the sea and call you Swaggy? Oh my God. But I said, I actually. I actually

I actually was sad as you go I just didn't like that you made t-shirts for yourself and had a self-proclic like it doesn't mean I didn't like

you as a person and he was like oh it's good and I was like it's all good he was like forgiving but people are just

still coming after me that is so insane yeah let them come they can't take you you would say that you little

listen I got it so much I know what it felt like like it's terrible it's not fun but on the other side like it's fine it's oh my gosh okay it's not as big of a deal as it feels at the time yes all these questions are about colton which is crazy interesting um well that was the big drama oh bet daniels wants to know if evan hadn't faked being sick does carly think she would have still

brought them together oh is that a why don't you ask me that question okay answer that carly and then i'll then i'll answer it oh juicy um yes you know what But so when we got back from the show, Evan and I were out at the patio on Barago on the second story. And we were like drinking wine and we were looking out just like talking. And I remember I looked at him and I said, oh my God, you would have gotten me. I said regardless of if it was in paradise or here like you had me. So like 100%. Oh God, what is his reaction right now?

That's not the one I hoped for. it's sweet it's but no that was i was like it was it was bound to happen regardless i think you guys are so meant to be together it's stupid well some days are better than others oh so you're a normal couple oh my god yeah so you're a normal couple we didn't fight this morning nope not us we are every bit as happy on instagram we see everything you see on instagram is real life but uh and how would you answer that No, I knew I had you. Like, I knew that, like, you know, I was going to, I was going to, like, suck you right in.

Like, I, like, it was. You know what's so funny. He just kept saying, like, I knew I would suck to you in. He was like, when we got home, he was like, oh, man, you know, I was going to take you to Bieber. And I knew I'd have you at Bieber. It's true. You agreed to go to me, go with me to Bieber. And so I was like, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, Bieber always wins everyone over.

Of course. Like, that was. Are you guys team Jelina or team Jaley? Oh gosh. I don't think we have to choose. There's never, I will never not be team Jolina. I love Selena. And me too.

I just, I'm sad. It feels wrong. It feels wrong. It feels wrong. It's weird. Why does it feel so right for him? Because it feels very wrong for all of us. I know.

It does. It really does. And that's what matters. Molly Joe Vig says, Carly, if you were on the Bachelor at this season as Becca, who would you pick up? why oh god this is weird i don't think i would pick

i was gonna say i don't think any of those guys would be your guys no uh i wouldn't pick any no but if you had to if you had to you can break up with them after oh um oh oh that's how the show works uh whose family did i like the best that's what i was thinking oh wow interesting i think well you know life lessons huh i don't know well um i don't know that's like really hard yeah i don't have to answer i just don't i just don't no you have to answer why do i have to answer because you're going to judge me for my answer 100% do you want me to say jason would that make you happy actually maybe jason oh i see only because you liked him the most so she's trying to just like

oh i'm just kidding shh hey i got to go guys talk you later all the time that's jason how dare you oh casey cassie homan question for yours carlies and evans pod i've always wanted to know is it in your contract to still post picks on insta after an episode even if you weren't the one to be picked in the end if that makes any sense because you know how now like we weren't supposed to post at all when the show was airing but now all these guys even if they didn't pick her they're like posting pictures after each episode yeah yeah yeah that's just for likes that's just for likes I think we weren't allowed to do that even though people did that but we weren't allowed to and now I don't think they care because it gets more promotion for the show I feel bad for T

I'm seeing all these people I didn't know that about her hate message you just have to realize Like that person that sent Tia a hate message is so damaged and pathetic. I know. And like desperate for attention. Yeah. That it's like that, whoever that was, they should be turning out their comments and Instagram because. No kidding. And they probably did.

Yeah. So embarrassing. Christy Barnes wants to know, do the show producers make you jump and wrap your legs around the guys on every date? I didn't know until last season, but now it's all I can focus on. No. Funny because I made a point. She did that with everyone. She did it to everybody.

I made a point to not do it because I always saw Bachelors doing it. And I'm like, I'm not going to be that girl. And then it got Sean in his own head because when it was the final two, Sean walked out to me and he thought, well, she better run and jump in my arms. But I stood there and waited for him. I'm like, why isn't he running? Oh my God. And Caitlin, of course you did. Yeah, I was like, no, you run to me, 60-40.

And I, and then he was like, why didn't she? run to me. And I was like, why the hell did he just take a sweet time getting to me? And then we had the most awkward last date of our lives. I pet his leg for like 30 seconds. Because he was mad. Yeah. Oh, no. We were both like in our own heads about it. I was like, why didn't he run to me? He must not be like, he's not going to propose to me tomorrow. That's really funny. And then he was like, she run to me and wrap her legs around me like all the bachelor's. We're so crazy. We're all so crazy. Yeah. Then now imagine it. What do you mean? We're all crazy. I mean, we just have like stupid things that we're like, oh my gosh, this didn't happen.

So the world is ending. Oh, you know what's crazy? I just thought about this now. I remembered it when I woke up. I had the worst dream that, um, Sean fell in love with, uh, Tia. Oh, God. Yeah. And that I was like, like trying, people were holding me back because I was just trying to punch her in

the face so badly. And I woke up sweating. Oh, that's horrible. And he was, and Sean was skipping away from me, clicking his heels. Oh, what a. he was so happy and I woke clicking his heels yeah like why can we only see part of Evan's face do you take up his clothes Evan are you fully naked oh no we're back but I woke up so grumpy today and sweaty super sweaty yeah I hate that yeah I hate dreams I'm clicking his heels he was clicking

his heels he was so happy but whoever controls my dreams it's not cool bro I think you control them yourself so I think he's going to fall in love with Tia well no I mean maybe I don't think So because they have the same last name. Evan breaks up with me in all of my dreams. Oh, it's horrible. And then he never talks to me about it. And everyone else talks to me about it.

I'm like, Evan, why won't you talk to me? And he'll just like avoid me and then like walk away. And it's like really sad. He never confronts me. Hey, babe, I'd like to take this opportunity to confront me about it.

This is great therapy. Content. Okay. So let's wrap it up. Overall, Evan, give us your cliff notes of this episode. what did you think so i think jason was heartfelt and amazing and he deserves to either win

or be the next bachelor okay um i'm happy that colton left and you know that him and tia have a chance in paradise okay and chris harrison wins the episode with his um so you're afraid so you're afraid about being intimate with beka i wanted to text and be like how hard is that to not laugh you you know what he was thinking like you know he was like he was like he just just wanted to say it all and just like restrained himself of course okay go on Blake and Garrett oh I don't really have any thoughts about them I just you know they're whatever yeah who do you like there's a better connection with right now no I it's hard to say I mean Blake I think obviously I think like Blake is like really cool he says he's just is really

kind of up her alley Garrett's really you know like happy go lucky probably says all the right things and oh it's a toss up between Blake and Garrett and And then Jason has an outside chance. Yeah. That's a great little wrap up. If you asked me, I feel like you nailed it all. Yeah. I do it again.

I do it again. I have the same thoughts just mine as Jason being bachelor. I could see him being the bachelor. Oh, gosh, you've changed her way. Oh, did I change a little bit? Did I say no? I wore you down. Yeah.

Wearing you down. I feel like, well, Blake seems to be getting the edit, but I feel like it just depends on who she picks and how the heartbreak goes at this point. yeah you know it's up but if they're looking for another ben higgins Blake has been higgins yeah that's true you know what I honestly feel like is that none of these people um are good for Rebecca to be honest I think she's way different than actually like they're putting on strong game right now that's a really difficult thing to navigate while you are the best sure like the most genuine and who you're like okay you're showing me this

is this really you or you know it's testosterone are you trying to win right are you trying to be the bachelor are you trying to win or are you genuinely like in love with me and that's really hard to navigate because i think guys when they're in that position like look at um jason like he says he always keeps his heart so guarded but this show makes you break down all your walls and then it's like okay are they just broken down for good or then you just go into the real world and they're no they're broken down for six months you know what though the only person i would say in her top four that would be like i could be bachelor i think would be colton yeah that's i don't think any of the other guys have that thought and i mean they put nick as the bachelor after paradise

so they still could do colton they could do a paradise bachelor yeah they're not ruling out anybody at this point because look at what they've they picked ari for god's sake like right hadn't been on tv in five years yeah so i hope that becca chooses no one and goes on like a whole new season of like the hipster bachelorette yeah exactly That's funny She likes Betty Who I mean Oh somebody loves you

I just wanted to keep calling your Betty Boob or Betty Lou Who Baby you know You know I love her Like I've never heard of her Like I play those songs And you hate them

No Well I wouldn't say it that loud And that's where we wrap things up Evan's now naked saying we hate Betty Lou just kidding um carly do you have anything else no i mean i feel the same way i just feel like she has a very strong connection with everybody and i'm very very interested to see what happens yeah me too because now it's like i feel like it's been a very easy season

like everything's just kind of going smoothly which is crazy and i feel like stuff's about to happen you know what's crazy too is like you got so much hate on your season so much and I don't even see why anyone would ever hate her. They can call her like, meh, like she's just lovely. She's just like normal. Yeah, she's very normal. Yes, she's like

girl next door. She's so girl next door, a very normal, sweet, like, hasn't done anything wrong. Right. Yeah. And then. And then there's me. And then. And then. And then and then. No, and then. Thank you guys for being part of grape therapy. And we, I had podcast all set up from yesterday anyways because when is it Monday that it comes out? Oh yes Monday on

the babes and babies podcast which is uh me and jade and Liz we will be having yours truly Caitlin Bristow it's you guys you guys are really good because it's not just like even if I wasn't a mom I would still want to listen to the babes and babies podcast because you guys talk about like empowering things as women yeah and you guys are both like you'll go there you'll talk about sex you'll talk about things in relationships so i think it's like for anybody that just hears the name babes and babies you're like well we actually talk about all of the things yeah and especially even like with your with you coming on it was like this is more of a babes episode you know we're gonna ask you how many babes you're having but right um but yeah and we talk about everything and that's the whole

point of it is to be like a podcast about women and about all this crap that we go through open conversation and we do we talk about talk about sex Evan we talked about it the other day heard you got to I love sex I'm just kidding me too Evan oh you guys you guys look I'm looking at I'm looking at he's all smiling looking and he's got his fist up on your phone there Evan like what you think about yeah what are you doing he's showing us oh oh hey no nothing oh man anyway uh anyways well this is a great there session. Everybody listen to Bids and Babies on Monday.

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