Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Beginning Of The End of The Arie Season with Ashley I!

Episode Date: March 8, 2018

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have to say about anything Bachelor. Let's shake it up some more. Here's Caitlin. Okay, welcome to Grape Therapy. I'm your host, Caleb Bristow, your session is now starting. I try to make it seem like a therapy session. I love it. In the studio, the one. The only. Oh, I can't do it. Ashley, oh, goodnight.

Hey. Oh, my, what a dream team we are. Hey, please tell me you like the nickname Ashley Cry. Crycanetti? Crycanetti. That's cute. It's not as good as what you guys came up with in the Bachelor House, which was. Oh, no.

What was it? Ashley. Oh, Kardashian. Or Kardashian. Wait, I thought you'd like that. Dashley in. No, I love that one. That one's the best. That's the best. Ashley Crycanetti.

That's cute too. I will never forget you. You're like one of my only strong memories in the Bachelor Mansion. Really? Yeah, just you always had like the frozen meat on your cheeks in the morning for why? Just, you know. But why frozen meat? Is it just frozen anything?

Frozen anything. That just happened to be the coldest thing in the freezer. And that takes down swelling. Swelling, especially when you're drinking and you're eating like shit and you're crying all the time yeah you need some oh you why don't you start like a line i know i need like a cute little eye mask line right wait you know what you need should be part of my merch you need like a little um like a little sleepover kit or something so it's like a little eye pack um waterproof mascara a cry pack oh a cry Caitlin and Ashley cry with tissues I do have tissues on oh I know they're in my bathroom oh yeah that's right yeah by

especially i shop.com i have tissue boxes with some of my very most memorable cry faces it's hilarious and it also says why am i still crying yeah i think of you every day they're in our bathroom you can't use them though you know because it just like it looks too cute you don't want to be done it's very it was very genius of you to do that but you need to come out yeah a little ashley cry kit oh it's a really cute eye drops maybe to get rid of the redness yeah oh i'm i'm down with this i'll help you uh market them yeah like we have the same followers it's so good you have it like twice the amount but i will definitely help you with that because that's smart all right it is smart we should have something that's signature to all these girls

like signature to you like your own wine you don't have your own wine line oh i'm working on it that is interesting yeah why is it that you don't like i don't have time grape therapy just call grape therapy i know i want it off the vine one i want a grape therapy one i want a can you not bottle I want it all. You should have a can you not doll. Oh, we already put on it on it. Oh. It says can you not.

Yeah, that's a good idea too. Yeah. I did make sweaters. I'm going to bring those back. The sweaters are very cute. Actually, look. I have this one. Suck you.

Nobody can see it, but, um... I know. I love it when I do something visual on one of our podcasts. I know, me too. Look, we do have a camera in here. Oh, sweet. Are we actually recording? Is it going to go somewhere?

I don't know. Are we recording this? Yeah. I don't know where it's going. on but it's it's on all right hey what's up yeah you was supposed to be here i forgot i should have done my makeup but oh well i'm like i'm totally like you though where if we don't if we don't have to be on camera we don't do our makeup and then i'm all about your true was it true the real instagram oh yeah oh yeah you did a little i've done one before and you did an instagram story

that one time you know what drives me nuts what should we save this for can you not what can you not say that i'm wearing makeup in a selfie and in which I absolutely am not wearing makeup. Do people say that? People say that all the time for me. If I do a makeup-free selfie, then they're like, but you have mascara and eyeliner on. I'm like, no.

I use Latisse. Oh. Or and or. Those are your real lashes? Right now, I have like three more extensions on each piece, on each last because I haven't gotten them removed, but. They look good. But yeah.

So it's like, no, that's called Latisse. That's like, everybody's out. Oh, okay, that is a good, can you not? Uh, can you not? Because when I do my real Instagrams, people are like, you have lip fillers and Botox and your eyebrows are tattooed on. And I'm like, oh, well, way to miss the point. No, exactly.

Everybody's always says they're like, yeah, and a whole bunch of filler. I'm like, first off, I got my lip filler a year ago this month. Yeah, and it's like they're gone, people. They're gone. So please don't make fun of my duck lips. You've always had big lip. Yeah. Thank you. When I was on your season, I did not have anything in there. That's me. I did neither. And people always said that, too. And it was always a thing.

It's so annoying. No, Sean calls me pillow lips. Well, then everyone starts calling Ari Pillow lips and then it kind of dropped it. Yeah. But Botox, I can talk about Botox for a while. Oh, I love Botox. Yeah. We're all about the Botox. Oh, that doesn't. I think pro-Botox. Oh, see, we can't, we can't do a podcast together because we will be so off top in the entire time. She's like, let's do grape therapy. And I'm like, let's talk about Botox. Yeah, I like it. The fact that people think that Botox changes your face, and it's like, you guys, no, no, no, that's filler. Filler. They also think plastic surgery is Botox. I know.

Everything is Botox. No, you guys, Botax, all it does is prevents my eyes from, like, from my forehead from creating creases. That's the only thing that it does. And it kind of gives my brows a lift. A little lift. That's what, there's a picture on Google, or I don't know why I was probably Googling myself over something. And it came up like Caitlin Plastic Surgery. And it's like my, it's, I look totally different.

But it's because I got Botox that lifted my eyes and I microbladed my brows. Yeah. My mom just got her eye lifting Botox right now. This is where we just came from. I was like, Mama, once you're in L.A., you got to go get the Botox here. Yeah. So there's that. But yeah, you guys, anything in your cheeks or your mouth, that's not Botox.

It's not. Okay. I'm sorry. Glad we got that covered. I feel like you were very passionate about that. Well, because it does go along with like, your beauty shaming too because you do the whole

like embrace yourself which I love and people I have this reputation for always wearing makeup you know but it's like nah you're like no you just see that because I'm on camera in front of you guys but the other thing is like also do what you want

and don't shame people for getting a little Botox if they like it this was the whole pro glam thing oh yeah the glam shaming yeah the glam shaming is real totally real oh it's real and it's aggressive really but I mean you know what you're turning 30 tomorrow I am happy birthday cheers thanks

I usually pour the wine like during the podcast so people can hear it but we were we were just way ahead of the game yeah I had to do some confessionals with her before we started the podcast yeah exactly off the record those are the good ones you know those are good um so happy birthday thank you 30 you know that's that's a great age I mean my favorite age yeah you were great at 30 you're a great 30 year old inspiration yeah 30 inspo right here yes 30 inspo honestly it's it was the year where I'm like I feel good about myself yeah I'm in a good place I'm in such a good place I couldn't be in a better place to turn 30 it doesn't stress me out any more than another birthday would no it's like no I'm I'm sick of my

20s at 29 I'm like what third I just said I was 30 even when I was 29 I think I've been calling myself 30 pretty much for the past six months so it's no shocker tomorrow it's the best and you still like 30 you're still like you're self aware you can still laugh at yourself and you still kind of like you're in your prime. Yeah. Actually, I think 30 to 35 is like, well, actually, you told me this. I said, did I tell you this 31 was technically, scientifically, where women's looks peak? Well, I'm 32, so that fact can go, you're still, you're still on top.

You're still at the climb back to the mountain. I keep waiting for that day where I'm going to just go downhill. Like, I've peaked. Sometimes I do that. I'll look in the mirror. I'll be like, I've peaked. Oh, I look back on pictures a year ago. I was like, I think your peak was a year ago.

Oh, no. See, I look back on pictures from a year ago, and I'm like, ew. really she'd feel better by yourself now that's awesome yeah i feel like what was when i look back on crystal season actually it was my first season of paradise where i think i was my my prettiest think that was my peak i was so tan it was the environment that i'm like no you're the most beautiful now oh thank you you are but you i remember night one i was so luckily out of my mind on crystal season like i was hammered i'm sure you were i didn't know but i was really good you're like the one girl it was you and brit ironically that i looked at i was like those are the two

i need to watch out for really yeah see and i thought i came in like kind of like a tomboy like i was like well this is not a dress i would wear but i didn't i didn't have much makeup on no but i was like that one's a really pretty yes and i was like and you can tell she has the attitude to go along with it the attitude of personality and i was like she's a threat yes i always want to know what people's first impressions are of me and when you say I'm a threat I'm like yes that's like every girl wants to be looked at as that in a group of girls in the freaking bachelor mansion that's like you're like can I be that girl that's I didn't notice anybody is what I'm getting at until I when I watched it back I was like Ashley looked fucking hot that night I did feel good about myself that night I'll

get my after myself oh you look yeah thanks I mean you are always fire but thank you that night yeah dang I do you remember when we got our makeup done that night and I hated the makeup they gave us they gave us makeup yeah the first day they give you makeup and i walked out of there with like looking like tracy turnblad my hair oh from hair spray oh yeah yeah yeah oh that's another thing we need to talk about greatest showman oh we'll get there okay oh god i just got goosebumps i have a link to send you two of something we'll talk about all okay yeah anyways anyway what were we think well we were talking about hair and makeup and how i hated my hair and makeup and they got mad at me when i went in and I added more.

Oh, yeah, because I thought that's part of the reason I wasn't wearing a lot of makeup because they did it and I was like, oh, that's not a lot of makeup. No, they were like, we like a softer look here on The Bachelor. I was like, okay, well, I'm going to go add a pound in my room. They like a softer look and then they like send you in the driveway and do Jameson shots before you go in. I know it. But we like you rough around the edges. I like you to look really cute, but also smell like whiskey and be rough around the edges.

And I'm like, sign me up. Oh, that's so funny. Oh, my gosh. What is your, like, what are memories that stand out to you the most from Chris Sol season? Well, with you, I think when we watched that movie, oh my gosh, the stars, the fault, your stars, and you fell asleep in the hotel because Caitlin and I shared a hotel room together. And I couldn't cry. You couldn't cry. We were trying to cry.

She said she felt like it was 10 days in, 10 days into filming. And then we stayed at like the Sheridan and LAX. And this is the day before we went to Santa Fe, New Mexico. And Caitlin and I shared around. It was further than 10 days in then. you think so was like 12 or was it 14 you think almost yeah yeah okay because we had four weeks of filming in the house more than like any other recent season right which is like americana you know right and that's like um like film weeks are like what four days yeah yeah yeah yeah it was around 14

okay so we're watching okay so yeah and she's like i think i'm backed up on tears i think we should watch a fault in the stars and like order a whole bunch of wine to the room we were just had a good time that day and then you fell asleep for most of the night day though you don't cry like I don't understand and I couldn't I tell that to Sean all the time I'm like I used to not be a crier like nothing I would have to watch sad movies to make myself cry that's what you wanted to do

and I still couldn't and now I cry over you name it I'll cry over what do you think that is hormones yeah do you change those up a bit I had a phone call with a hormonal specialist yeah I Skyped with her she's in Vancouver and she's like oh yeah you are all sorts of out of whack like I I'm yeah I think it's hormones

That's right Then that could be it I forget that we have coffee here too I need to hit that Yeah definitely I cry over I mean I'll look at Tucker And just start crying

Well I would do that too If I had your dog But then again I do have my dog And I don't cry But like I do Are you annoying with him Like I go look at him Look at him

He's so cute He's so cute I say look at him He's so cute At least 15 times a day To my sister And she knows he's so cute Yeah I do the same thing

Because he is even more obsessed With her than Really? Yeah he doesn't He likes me, but he is in love with my sister. Oh, that's Tucker. He's in love with Sean. He loves me.

But he's like, Sean is his master. Yeah. Like that, he like eyes on Sean at all time. Yes, that is. Oh my gosh. If Lauren's walking around the room, like the family room, his head follows. Yeah. It's so cute.

Yeah, that is. I want to get another golden because I'm like, I want a dog to love me the way that Tucker loves Sean. Yeah. It's really a beautiful thing. It is. How old is Tucker? Oh, no.

I'm going to cry. Oh, my God. No. is he like nine or ten he's ten no he looks so young and he and he acts so young like he like he really does okay well my dog was like that too and she she lived till 15 and a half so that's pretty good but then again gold ones you know you should oh you should have seen um you watch this is us yeah uh yes i know that everyone cries over that but it could be something is that weird yes you guys isn't this is my should be my confessional that doesn't even make sense it doesn't

make sense i think i only cried the episode that randall's dad died wait i don't know that part where are you i'm in season one still oh my god no i did know that that happens but um i honestly would like okay who's the bigger guy who oh my gosh how could i be dribbledgy on his name now kate and what is his name when he when he falls oh that is sad at christmas sean looked at me and he's like are you okay because i was like this enough i just started sobbing like like oh like I couldn't catch my breath. I'd be like,

like, I was bawling. Just because he like fell and I thought it was sad. Oh my gosh. That is, that's cute. I like that. I like crying during TV shows. I like to feel connected to fictional characters.

It's just something that I've always done. But you, it's funny because you're a cry. But that's why it's weird. And I feel emotionless watching this as us. His name is Toby, by the way. Okay. Yeah.

But you know the show that made me cry harder than any in my life was Nashville. Oh, You never know. Well, I scream cried. Like, somebody would have thought that I got a call that one of my parents died while watching Connie Brennan die. Really? Yeah. Connie Bretton dies in Nashville?

Yeah. It's been a year, so I think I can say that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure everybody. Nobody really cares. It's fine. It's probably all over Twitter anyways. That's so, okay, yeah. But I love a good cry.

I love a good cry. But now I cry all the time. Interesting. I think I gave you my tears. Maybe you did. Yeah. Maybe you cast a little, like. spell on me one time and you're like my body can't handle all of these tears i have to share some

maybe i handed them to you at carly and evan's wedding because that was the last time i saw you and it's also like when i really stopped crying and that's when i kind of started no i started before that but oh that well i cried the second i saw evan crying i was like oh my gosh yes anyways as as a 30 year old woman yeah crazy 30 old woman as i initially is the proudest moment in your life so far um i don't know if it's like a general moment but it's any time that a girl comes up to me and tells me that like i've inspired them to stay truer to themselves yeah and to like stick to their moral guns and that my podcast or me being on the show has helped them feel more normal about themselves like yes i agree i think

i think that's how i feel too like not not a specific moment but just having that impact. Yes. And I'm like, oh my gosh, my podcast where I literally talk about farting and boys the entire time. But you say, talking about stuff like that, especially with like boys struggles, like girls are like, oh my gosh. Like there are girls like that.

No. I know. Do you remember? Who said that on the show? That they never had boys struggles? Yeah. That was that girl, Marique. I don't know.

She said that on R. She was like, I don't know. Guys usually seek me out. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, you don't say that. I know. Unless you're like joking, but maybe they cut her up being like, I'm just kidding. Yeah.

Oh, wait. I remember. Okay, no, right. It was a private moment in which I experienced a girl saying that. It's a private moment? It was a, it was a meeting with an actual, like, it was quite a celebrity. And it wasn't me. And she said I've never had a problem with boys.

Yeah. And she was serious. Yeah. Oh. She's like, see, I don't really relate to this. It was a show pitch. I don't relate to this because I've never struggled with boys. Isn't that crazy?

Oh, I was joking. No, I know you. Oh my gosh Yeah there are people out there I bet the boys that she's had relationships With her like I'm banged to Denver I'm sure But yeah back back on track

Nah What track It is it is nice when girls say that Yes Because I think You're like okay I'm doing something right Right right You're like okay I'm fine

I'm fine I'm normal I'm normal Everybody has these struggles That's the best That is something I really love about Podcasting a couple things One is that it's like You're in a moment

and you're not you're like having nice conversation with somebody for like a full hour oh yeah it's so nice because you're not on your phone it's great i love it i don't even think about what's going on i can see my phone lighting up and i'm like yes i don't have to answer to anybody right now and having some sort of impact on like a lot of women yeah i'm like oh my gosh it's so crazy because i think a lot of times in life like previous like i think about myself in high school nobody had honest conversation no like nobody talked about farting and boys and your period and like you just kind of kept it to yourself. You're so quiet and secretive in high school. Yeah. And high school's

probably the time where you're struggling the most inside. Yeah. Yeah. I hope I was going to say, I hope girls in high school listen to my podcast. No, I don't. No, I don't. Wait. That's funny because my podcast, the I don't get a podcast this week is about life in high school and all the insecurities that you're going through and all like the weird things that you're doing. And you feel weird, but now you're looking back out and you're laughing at it. It's just like you guys in 10 years, you will look back and laugh on it. And you think everything is a consequence. And I'll be all of

everything like I remember I would not even walk to the vending machine in high school because I thought people were looking at me no way uh-huh I like I would start like shaking because I wouldn't eat my lunch and I get so hungry because I just thought people were like I'm like what if I have something on my face and nobody tells me no way I was so insecure in like it was until like the 12th grade how are you with your parents in in high school see I used to hate I liked hanging out with my parents yeah I was that kid where I was like oh you know what I'm realistic enough to know that these friends probably aren't going to hang around but I like hanging out with my parents like I would like to go to dinner with them during the weekend but my sister would be like actually

I cannot believe you're encouraging this I am so embarrassed what if we go to the mall for like to the restaurant in the mall and then people see us sitting with mom and dad and I'm like could you imagine being now 30 and 27 and saying like no what if we go to the restaurant and people see us mom and dad like no you really learn to appreciate oh gosh you your parents are your best that's I I had a great relationship with my parents forever i always have my sister my mom got in a lot of fights but i always had like a pretty solid relationship and i loved hanging out with them but i yeah now that i think back i'm like no i wouldn't be like let's go to dinner with them but now i'm like i love those moments that's funny oh those are the best nights just go to dinner their parents now my mom's like

my friend yeah she can hang she can really hang what a life what a life we live from walking out of the limo like how did you even get involved in being on the bachelor oh yeah You would die if you saw my audition tape. You would absolutely kill. But can I see it somehow? Your peer pants. Should you press pause so I can at least pull up the Instagram that I posted like two years ago? What?

That you have your... I have a blooper reel of it on my Instagram. My, um, audition video was... Did you have a video? I for some reason thought that you didn't have a video. So my girlfriend did everything. She like signed her, my sister. They like fell out the paperwork.

And then Brie was like, you have to make a video you have to they're they're not going to pick you unless yeah you need the video you guys heary herey here to all of you out there wanting to be on the bachelor you need to make the video yeah and so i did and i was like in such a weird place and i remember because i was supposed to be on it was for wampoblo's oh yeah that's right i also you and i bonded over that because we both sent in tapes around the time of being casted for wampoboblo season and i was like i don't remember his daughter's name now uh camila oh my god good job i'm really impressed with myself You probably still would have gotten that far, though, on his season.

I don't think so. You don't think so? He's a big boob guy. He is. You don't have a big buddy, though, though. I've got a decent-sized dumper. Oh, yeah, you do. Never mind.

You do have your, like, dance booty. Yeah, my dance booty. I got a dance booty. Yeah. It's not large, but it's there. It's round. That's all it matters. It's, I don't look like I partied my ass off.

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I know. I'm on the edge of my seat just really. I can't believe how long ago it was I posted this. Okay, well, that's what I... I should probably repost it now. You have to. It's so funny because... Wait, who are we... Oh, wow.

This is what happens when I'm on my third podcast of the day. Oh, no, I know. I feel bad for you. Your vocal cords must be just fried. I was singing all last night, too. My girlfriend, Penny, she's like... such a boss and she works with Carly Clause. Okay.

And so she's one of my best friends and she was sitting there working and we were podcasts or I was planning my podcast and I was like, do you want to hear me sing? And she was like, yes. And she calls me Beans. She goes, yes, beans. Hey, when's your album coming out? Well, I've got four songs recorded now. Okay. So I'm going to release one. Hopefully end of this month actually.

No way. That's what I'm going for. Either March or April. So awesome. Because I'm going to make a video and everything. I'm so excited. You do have an awesome place. Oh, I've gotten so much better. Really? Since I saw you? Well, because I sang for you in, where were we?

New Mexico. Yeah. On Bachelor. No, no, but I'm talking about when you sang for us in Mexico, too. What? You sang some of Mexico for Carly and Evans' wedding? No, I didn't. In the car?

Oh, I played my song. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, wait, what? Okay, I don't know why I can't find this. I'm so mad at myself. That's okay. Well, oh, this.

what I was going to say. Claire, speaking of Claire. Okay, yeah, speaking of Claire. Her, she's now engaged to a Canadian man. She is. Benoit. Benoit. Yes. Oh, I found it. You want to watch? Yeah, please. This is just the blooper reel. Oh, my God, shut up.

My sister was wearing a paper plate with a question mark on it. I'm a pretty good writer, but I'm having a hard time I'm breaking the story of my own romance. ABC, I'm hoping you'll help me write the first chapter. Oh, my God, you're so cute. So embarrassing. Ah, look at you.

How are they not, like, bring her on? Well, they eventually did say that. Yeah, that's true. I need my one laugh. That's me pretending like I'm getting out of the limo. Is that the dress you actually wore? You are miced up. I wasn't the real dress.

Yes, I was miced up. Because what I did was I was graduating Syracuse that month, and I said I have all my, all of my production equipment, fancy camera, mics. So I said, let's do this whole shebang. It was a two-day process where I went through all the major scenes in The Bachelor, from getting out of the limo to my first one-on-one to a hometown date, then fantasy suite date, and then the final, the final rose. pretty genius actually thanks well you were what were you doing before bachelor you were like i was in grad school at syracuse doing broadcast journalism right um but then i had my year in between graduating and the bachelor i had a six-month internship with the jets the new york jets and then and then i had like three months of looking for a job until they were basically like yeah you're

going to be on our next season i was like i should probably stop the job search now i found my calling yeah i think so and and uh why i find a job and then be like just like you know like get me a great interview and be like just letting you know probably gonna leave in september to film the bachelor that's so funny yeah that's remember um actually somebody message me i don't know how they know this and ask me to ask you what you thought when i told you i said i didn't i wouldn't care if you got your period in a shark tank wait when did you say that remember you don't remember this no you came out it was in new mexico you came out of an interview.

I think it was New Mexico. Wait, where did we talk about this publicly? Did we? I honestly don't know. I think I've said it on the podcast before, but it was because somebody brought it up. And I'm like, did they air? They didn't air that because somebody knew. Somebody knew.

That's really weird. It wasn't a, on the blooper at the end of the, during the credits, because I can see them doing that and then like me just giving a funny face. I said, no, I actually remember telling you, though. Like, you came out of an interview and you're like, they're. I think it was after camping, actually. So it wasn't even... Oh, it was after camping.

And you were like... I can see them airing that. Maybe they did then. Maybe. We have to go watch those episodes again. I really want to. I do too. It's taken me a long time to be in a good headspace where I could and I think I'm ready.

I usually watch Paradise 2 over again. Like I've watched scenes in Paradise 2 over again. Not Paradise 3. Not at all. But sometimes our season and then a lot of Paradise 2. oh i forget how many things you've done too many just so embarrassing so embarrassing but you came out of a room and you're like kaitland they're really trying the producers are really trying to get me mad at you or like hate that you keep getting roses and you're like but

i can't say anything mean because you're just so honest and yeah i never had beef with you got it yeah and i looked at you and i said oh i'm pretty sure i just told them i wouldn't be mad if you got your period in a shark tank and you died laughing that's so funny I can't believe you don't remember that That is still funny Yeah Well I think it's because on that camping day I feel like we were like the only two

Getting attention on the camping day Yes And if it were then then that makes sense Yeah I think it was That's funny the camping day Oh man I was like on fire that night Well that's one of my favorite lines from that season The Bachelor is I'm at the camera

I'm looking at the camera I'm like I got the rose and I'm drunk You loved camping and I was my first time Caitlin was like, there's no way she's going to survive this date. She's getting eliminated tonight. Oh my gosh. I just talked about this date on I think my last grape therapy session with Trista.

I was like, I was like, I glam shamed Ashley in the morning of a camping date because I like, I was looking rough and I opened the zipper of your tent and you're sitting there with your little compact mirror like dabbing your face doing makeup. Yeah, I didn't wash my face the night before. So all I did was like reapply on top.

That's amazing. I would never do that now That's what the funny thing Between being 26 and 30 Is like at 26 You're gonna reapply And then you being a little older Was like I don't care

Eight million people can see this I don't like care I would do that now Has Kevin seen you without makeup He's seen me without makeup Like since day one That's what's funny is like I'm very like crazy

About my skin care So I will always wash my face before bed And it's like a routine And then in the morning of course Like when I'm on TV I use my face and everything so like he would he saw me without makeup throughout the entire process because yeah I guess so what's different is you're living together living together like in a house unlike paradise where you have kind of more separate quarters and you can hide a lot better

because it's like a campus it's like half a mile long yeah um but in the actual like little lodge you couldn't escape and then he sees me without makeup at least half the days that he's visiting because if I don't have to be on camera I don't do it I'm like sorry baby I probably in this In this stage of the relationship, I should be looking nice every day. You look nice without makeup. And guys like natural looks. Yeah, they do. A good guy likes a natural girl.

I agree. He always says that too. He's like, I just like you in your sweatpants and your hair up and no makeup. Just like the Drake song. And I'm like, oh, how cute. You're like, oh, you're so Toronto Canadian. I know. Shouting out Drake.

He always shouts out Drake. They say they have a national Drake holiday. But you would know that, right? But that's just Toronto thing. What? I did not know that. That's funny. In Toronto, they do. Oh, my gosh. There's a national Drake Day and not a National Beaver Day. Oh, that's a messed out. They should have a national Caitlin Day. Yes, they should. I feel like Vancouver does, though. Well, it's today. Well, it's close. Okay. Well, you can make it the fifth of every March. That's what I was getting. Claire and Banwa totally get married?

I hope so. Yeah. You know, I hope so. It's been really quick. I could never like three months you know three months but you were pretty certain after the two months that you knew Sean like you knew that was your person right yeah 100% so I hope that that's how Claire feels about Benoit I hope so too I haven't talked to her um and then what was my other thing I was going to say to you oh yeah that's what did you ever think that you'd be dating a Canadian boy no definitely not it was funny because of the beginning of the thing they're like would you ever date like a foreign guy and I was like I mean I can't imagine like the cultural differences is because I'm such like, I'm so entrenched in, like, American pop culture.

And I'm like, I don't know if they're going to get my humor. I don't know if they're going to get all the things that I like to talk about. Does he get your humor? But no, yes. But he's, I forget that Canada is like what he says, like the little, the top hat or something of the U.S. Why does he have so many different things? This is the top hat of the U.S. So it's just like a big state on the top.

No, Kevin. We're Canada. We are not a part of the states. We are Canada. He says you guys have everything that we do, except for he's fascinated by the candy selection that we have here. He says that there's like three times different types of snickers and Reese's and twicks here than you guys have in Canada.

You know what, Kevin? I'm not so sure about you. Okay, but the thing about Kevin is that there's no way he's looking in the candy aisle on the regular. The only time he's probably looked in the candy aisle is here in America with me. This is what I have in my notes here, okay, about this? My notes here say... I love the research.

No, there's no research. It's just from my heart. here it is okay in my notes i say as if jared isn't kicking himself now because he's probably realizing what a great catch you are and being like damn i had her as a best friend now i realize i want her romantically and as much as i love kevin i still got hope for you and jared i really do i'll never forget the time you called me i will never forget when i called you either i mean this i think like jared probably got off that season two of paradise being like you know maybe one day I'll date Ashley and then and then watched it and then he watched it I will always remember

the tear Caitlin you don't even know you weren't there okay so if you guys don't remember during my season I bring paradise season two I called Caitlin because I just sent Jared home yes she was yeah a month earlier just about four weeks earlier she had sent Jared home so he wasn't ready to do that paradise at all because he was like so into you I'm like no yeah no no no he wasn't I had them under my smell still. So she was in Chicago and I call her and it was like what the NHL tournament or something and you were so drunk in the back of a limo. I was with Whitney and Becca.

And they're like, she's like, is this producer set up? And I was like, no, this is not producer. Because Jared had broken up with me and I took it like super well in front of him. And then I get to the confessional room and you're like, what the hell did you do to him? And I was like, wait, what is going on? right now because sweet Jared like didn't want to blame me so he was just like you know I really don't think I'm in the place right now you know I don't know if it's here because like he wasn't letting himself his walls down you know he wasn't letting himself feel anything for

anyone else he would let his walls are down now Jared no walls is what I'm going to call him from now on all right back to the story uh-huh yeah um yeah so I called Caitlin and I was like hysterical and then I immediately regretted the fact that one day Jerry would probably have to see that phone call I had with her. Right. And I didn't tell him because we left we left Paradise. We spoke a couple times via text, but like nothing

like extensive. Yeah. And then fast forward two and a half weeks after coming home from Paradise. And I'm sitting in the audience of your men tell all. Oh yeah. And you are there. You were there. And so I'm sitting there like, you know, in like the Paradise section. And

they show a preview of like, but next on paradise starting next week and it's me on the phone they show a clip of me on the phone with kaitland sobbing what did you do to him and then jay i could like jared he just couldn't look at me that was probably the first time he's seen that clip right so he had no idea and even even backstage i ran to the backstage i was like i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm going to explain later i'm going to explain later at the after party and then he didn't even realize what it possibly could have been he thought I was like on the phone of my mom or my sister or something. And then I told him later at the party and you can just tell he's like, I'm going to kill this bitch.

Yeah, because he like mess in Sean. No, oh, I know. He felt so awkward for Sean. But yeah, so then fast forward to Cole Monsinger and I were just fine. But that definitely wasn't the way to to start things fresh. Yeah. I mean, that wasn't the smoothest move. I was really run on emotion back in this.

day is near 20s. Back in the 20s. Back in the 20s. Uh, and then what was, was winter games quick filming? Oh my gosh. Yeah. So it was three days in the hotel beforehand, 10 days of actually shooting. And then we had another two nights in the hotel after that. That's it. Yeah. So I have known Kevin as of three months today as the fifth. Happy three months. But don't forget, we weren't together until like the 10th. So many people were tweeting being like, when is he going to move to be closer to you guys and I'm like everybody calm down just because they're on the bachelor doesn't mean you just move right in together and have what yeah happily ever after yeah right when did you guys like you guys had a whole Canadian American romance when did you decide that

you were going to move where um well it was after we did the long distance during the show then he came to Vancouver for two months he loved it but we lived in like a teeny tiny apartment and then he's like we could get like a home in Nashville yeah and then it was like I don't even know mm I don't do timelines yeah I know you guys you guys really put it up in the air for a while yeah yeah yeah you didn't have a permanent residence for a bit right and then I got a work visa finally and then yeah I don't remember I don't remember even how long I don't even know how long I've been in the states it feels like I've just been here forever since the bachelor yeah I mean you pretty much have um you're predominantly American now I'm not

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This is Off the Vine, grape therapy. I can't believe we've been talked about this yet, the season of The Bachelor. Okay. So when this comes out, all the shit has hit the fan. Absolutely. People are not going to recover from this quickly. People are not going to recover.

And people are not going to like this at all. No, it's going to be really, really bad. And I feel bad because I know the backlash. I know. Oh, you know how backlash can be. I know the passion of Bachelor fans. Yes. And how it can come out.

And I think he could get some death threats. I know, right? I'm a little concerned. So, okay, here's what I know. It's airing tonight and tomorrow. But, of course, this doesn't come out until Thursday. so then everybody will know. Here's what I know.

He picks Becca. Did you hear that Hulu totally messed this up this week? Hulu put a preview up and it was the proposal to Becca. Which is insane to me because I'm like, remember that time I spoiled it on Snapchat.

Not a big deal now. Oh, I know, right? Could they sue Hulu? I don't know, but maybe they wanted to do that because they've kind of been wanting to spoil the season internally because I know they don't care of the season spoiled. No, because.

Because it's really, that's not what it's about. And they know people will tune the F in. Yeah. So he picks Becca, goes on one of their little, like, because you know how you have a secret hideaway house every few weeks to hang out with the person. This is what happens, right? He tells Becca that they're just doing an interview like a catch-up, breaks up with her. No, I didn't know this.

I don't know details. I've tried to remain as spoiler-free as possible. Same. I just found all this out, but I thought you knew. No, no, no, no, that's fine. I need you to tell me. We're about to go watch it right now anyway. So all I knew was that it was a happy couple of weekend where he broke up with her. I didn't know that he came up with an excuse.

Oh, I'm making, I'm just assuming. Okay. No, no. Oh, yeah. I don't know how he said like, oh, but there'll be cameras here. But I'm just assuming because if there's going to be cameras, he probably said like, but why would he do that? Why would he allow cameras? Because the producers were probably like, this is going to make sense for Lauren.

And if you want to be happy with Lauren, you're going to need to do this. And the world needs to see Becca because she'll probably be the bachelor. Okay, yeah, I'm sure she is. And I think they announce The Bachelor on Wednesday. So you guys will probably already know who The Bachelor is when you're hearing this. We sound like idiots right now. I really like Beck. I think she can hang with us.

She could sit with us. Yeah, she could totally sit with us. I really liked her when, is it Russ or Ross? I can. Ross. Ross. When he came back, she was like, oh, my God, this is so you. You think it's like the notebook.

I was like, you're funny. I like you're funny. I know. I know. Yeah. But yeah, that's when I... So, I don't know. I'm really curious.

Did you watch Jason Besnick season? Yes. Was you a fan back then? Okay, so I, that was the first season before I started watching. So I didn't watch him yet. That was the last one I didn't see. Jillian Harris was on it and she was Canadian. I didn't know her yet, but I was like, oh, Canadian girl, she's from Alberta, which is where I'm from.

So I watched. And she was third, she was third place. And then she was a bachelor. And then she was a bachelor. And how is it they didn't give Melissa? She got dancing with the stars. Like, what? think it was too late i think they already had picked the bachelorette or something they didn't think

it was an option no but like america will demand the girl who was engaged and then dumped yes because this whole time i've been thinking it would be tia who i adore her i think she's so funny and like edgy and cool yeah and i'm like she's she's got the story you know you're rooting for her to find love but then i heard what happened and i'm like no you need to be Becca will for sure be the bachelor yeah and that's what tia told me too she goes i think Becca will be the bachelor And that's when I started being like, okay, so he doesn't pick back. Okay, so that's when he started to get spoiled. Yes.

When I was doing all the Bachelor Winter game stuff, it was almost so unavoidable, just like hanging out with production. They were like going through the mess of it all that. Oh, yeah. I just kind of almost told me. So they were going through all that. Oh, I didn't even think about that. Yeah.

They're just like, like, we have issues. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. I'm really curious to see how this plays out and how Lauren is taking it. Yeah. So weird. they can't be solid either oh no no one in this situation can feel solid nobody in bachelor history feels solid as a couple when you come out of that show no matter what happens you don't feel solid

that's so true that is even if you want to be solid and you're like I love this person so much I'm like if you want to be solid if anyone was going to be solid immediately after I would honestly think it would be you because I feel like you guys were just you guys aren't just like a perfect future husband and wife you are actually soulmates I agree you can see that from day one and and we knew that like no matter what we would make it through anything we just knew it was going to suck like and you know how interview people are like they just don't even think of you remotely as a human being with a heart they're just like you did this on the show let's talk about it all and then you're like we're really in love and this hurts our hearts yeah

but we just knew we would work through anything yeah I think that's how we still are like even if we get in like big fights we're like well we know we're going to work through this I like There's no way we're leaving each other. Yes. I've had relationship with people like that before. Oh. Yeah. Go on.

You just know, you know. You just work through it with the right person. Right. And you get there. Yeah. In your wise 30s. Well, wait. Sean is 31 now?

Yeah, he's 31. Oh, my gosh. What an old man. What an adult couple you guys are? Man has he ever grown up? All right. Wait, has he really? Oh, my gosh.

What's the difference? he was like party boy when I met really oh he was in Nashville just like guns blazing like pew like partying and and then he got on the show and he parted through the show he drank all the time so much oh my gosh he was so crazy and then we got off the show we were like at bars all the time we'd go to honky tongs he'd get up on stage he was just that's really fun for you guys oh yeah but now I feel like you're like me where you just postmates and that's it yeah postmates fun right Oh, but I'm still obviously Enjoy a glass of wine

You do, you're a little bit more Part of her living. I enjoy a glass of wine on the couch. I do too But now Sean's like I mean he's always been healthy But he'll have like a light Mickelopaltra beer

Oh really? He'll eat his like plant-based foods And he's like It's 930 Would you want to hit the slant? So how do you balance the diet? Like because you don't want him to eat healthy all the time?

I don't. No, you definitely don't. I eat healthy, like, um, 75%. That's really good. I'm pretty healthy, but I love, I'm jealous. I love McDonald's. Yeah. I love fries.

I love alcohol. That's where I, like, if I liked alcohol as much as, like, you do, I just, I would be obese. That's where I get saved. I don't know how I don't get that from it. Because you eat 75% healthy. I eat 75% junk, but no alcohol. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah, see, I'd rather eat really healthy and enjoy my wine. Okay, nice. Okay, so it's all about finding what you prefer. Yeah. Where you prefer your calories to come from. That I, 100% and I'll take a little pooch. Like, I'll take a little...

You're fine with stomach fat? See, I'll take a little thigh and butt, but as soon as it starts hitting my stomach or my face, then I'm like, nah. You've got a nice stomach. I've got a nice upper half of the tummy. Oh, I cover... Okay, this is my trick. Always highlights a jeans because it's this belly button and up part,

which is great but underneath the belly button is always hidden 100 p that's that is me i always always wear the highway said people like look at those abs and i'm like yeah there's two and i rock them i know exactly but they do not keep going no they don't especially once you've been eating for the day i'll wake up with a totally like i'll wake up really flat but then put a glass of water i mean oh the balloon starts blowing up yeah you oh you get bloated i get so bloated with everything I used to. Yeah, I do. I'm like, wait, I used to.

And I'm like, wait, I'm bloated right now. I'm holding in like eight toots right now. No, absolutely. You should have seen I was like, their boyfriend issues. When you have a boyfriend, you do have to keep in your farts a bit more. It sucks. So it's like, I'll come home after like leaving him somewhere. Yeah.

And then the fart, the length of it. Yes. And my sister cracks up. I'll walk in the door. I'll slam the door closed and I'll be like, it's like impressive. That is hilarious. See, the thing is, I will totally talk about Friday.

I'll be like, Sean, I'm going to the bathroom. I'm going to the bathroom. I got a toot. I'll stand up and go to the edge of the bed and I just won't like do it in the sheets. Right, right. Right. Right. And he'll be like, are you tooting right now? And he calls me Toots Daddy. Toots is cute. Yeah, we say Toots all the time. It's cute. I wanted to ask you some questions. Okay. People have questions.

oh we do yeah you guys wait you guys as if like it's more than just me and kately in the room um i do want to say one thing just speaking of age and growing up i'm wondering now at the age of 30 i still feel like a kid and i feel like you at 32 yeah still feel like a kid so when do you start to actually feel like an adult is it when you have i used to say oh it's when you're like 30 or when you get engaged or when you're married i think now it may be when you have a kid but now I've been with Jane and Tainer a couple times. You don't, with Emmy. My mom still feels like, my mom's like, I don't feel like I'm in my

60s. Like, I still feel like I'm like 30. Yeah. I don't think, I think it's in you. It's like you're, it's like in your soul to be a kid. I guess some people are just forever young. Yeah. That's why there's a song about it. Forever young. That's, that's a song and it's

well written. Okay, I'm going to ask you some, some Twitter questions. And it's so, it's so, funny because now we'll watch tonight the bachelor and it's a two day thing so it'll be on tomorrow too and then I'm gonna be like oh damn I have so much more to say on this subject

oh I'm sure okay Kevin asked oh Kevin my boyfriend's sweet again yeah he said shake shack or in and out oh well that's a question for you because I saw that I am shake shack and I'm shake shack strong

I don't even understand are you in and out I've never had shake shack oh my you haven't I think we know we're post-mitting tonight Yeah, we're doing it. Are we going to do it? I need to try it. Okay. Yes.

Yeah. I'm going to have my second round of fries within six hours with you. Okay. I was thinking Burger King, but that's okay. Okay. Do you love Burger King? I love Burger King. I love Burger King.

People think I'm sponsored by Burger King because I talk about it so much. I am sponsored by Burger King. But I do love them. I mean, there's nothing like that flame broiled beef, the Junior Wobber. The spicy. spicy chicken sandwich oh you like oh the spicy chicken sandwich is great too so underrated burger king um okay um okay this is so funny because i'm like oh we basically covered all of this oh did okay this is a good one chris clark wants to know if you've seen kevin's season of the bachelorette

canada okay so i actually was the guest host for the after show for yeah the bachelorette and you i know you did that after show um you also were doing like et that season so i need to like pick your brain afterward about his season. But no, because I did the after show, I had to watch the first five episodes. And then I never saw the second half of the season. And of course, I don't remember him at all from that season. I have to admit, I don't remember him much. I mean, I remembered his face. I remembered his voice. Oh, okay, his voice. His hair was longer. Yeah. So, like, it doesn't seem like the same person to me. And, but no. Have you had Putin? No. What? I know. I wonder if we can find that anywhere on postage. There is a

around here I saw it yeah it's in Hollywood perfect I'm looking through all these questions I'm like great this is a great podcast we covered everything we're thorough we are very thorough we basically covered everything um I want to come on your guys oh Ben that's what I want to have to come on our podcast he's not going to be the bachelor again first yeah I mean this is this is my plan for this world it's probably also Mike Fleiss's plan I think they want him for sure um they wanted him and I we talked about on our podcast So I think that there's no problem for me to say it again. They wanted him this past season.

Yeah, that's what I figured. But he, of course, had only been four months out of a relationship with Lauren and was definitely not ready. As you saw on Winter Games, not ready. So I would say I wouldn't count, I wouldn't count Benin for this, like, the casting of September's Bachelor. But the following year, when he's 30, I can see it again if he wants that. Yeah, I think so too. I don't know if he would do it again. Can you believe that Brad Wormack got two seasons?

And I don't know how you do two seasons because then you go in like you do not. Oh. You know too much at that point. Okay. Let's see. Is there anything else? Is there anything else? Is there something you want to tell me?

Is there, um, are you promoting anything? I mean, you know, there's always that. Yeah. Give us no. Give me a fast round. This is what I do on my podcast when I have like an extra couple minutes. Okay. Where I ask people like their random favorite things.

Okay. So ask me some favorite things. and then I'll go ahead and be like, listen to the almost-s-thagast, the I don't get a podcast. What's your favorite TV show you're watching right now? This is us. Okay. Milo Ventimilia for life.

Okay. For life. Yeah. For my ultimate, Mike, you know how when you get older, you have less and less celebrity crushes? I've had my fair share in my lifetime. Milo is like my only one now. Oh, okay.

Okay. Oh, my God. Gritty Showman. I couldn't even get it out. Oh, my God. Greatest Showman. I can't wait to show you something after this. I'm going to show you a link that.

that Sean sent me um okay yeah that's both of our favorite movies right now yes what is your favorite thing to postmates um indian food interesting yes i love chicken tega masala so so much it's something you can't recreate in home either but i feel like that's high risk high reward with our um ordering in indian food oh well that's because i know my place that i get it from yeah okay it's consistent mr indian in hollywood oh secrets not everybody's gonna go um what else what else are your favorite things right now. I don't tell God. I'm brain dead right now. I'm saying, yeah.

I'm like, just, I need to really, like, lay off the source. Do you not? You don't curse on this podcast? I know, I do. I do. You do? We're not allowed to on the almost famous podcast. Oh, I mean, people don't love it, but we beep most of it out, but I think it's also really funny. You know what my mom says? She's like, can you stop saying the F word? And I'm like, mom, what's the F word? And she's like, fart. Can you Stop talking about farting on your podcast. No. I'm like, Mom, it's part of my life.

Farting's not going anywhere. The fart talk is here to stay, Mom. Okay, where can we find you? Okay, well, you can obviously find me at Ashley underscore I Kennedy on Instagram. Yeah, I would love to repost the bloopers and you're, okay. I'll do the actual audition tape because when I posted the other one, I was like just still and too insecure about posting the whole thing. It's so embarrassing.

Yeah. And then my two podcasts, the I don't get a podcast if you want more girl talk. the almost famous podcast if you want some more bachelor talk and then the story of us is on YouTube I did it with the people that do 90 day fiancee and married at first sight um okay well it's all I got for you all right thanks Kate let's go watch some bachelor yeah I'm really excited actually this is the first time I've been like genuinely excited to dive into some I'm pretty excited to but I wish it was one I wish it wasn't two nights I wish it was all happening tonight yeah two days of work for me I'm working on my third

30th birthday. I got to wake up at 6 a.m. for access. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Access Harlem on. And then I got to work on getting Becca on my podcast. Yes.

Yes, you do. Wait, you guys had aria on yours, didn't you? Yeah. We felt super special. Yeah. Trying. Yeah. Well, no, I'm not.

I know. I know your issues. Okay. Okay, you guys, this is great therapy. Your session has ended. Thank you so much for having me. No, honestly. Big Ashley Eye guy.

I'm a big Ashley Act. Oh, you guys, stop stealing the whole big something, something or other from you guys. Can you not? Can you not? If you're out there and you're saying I'm a big this guy, oh, you can if you're like a listener of the off the body. Oh, yeah, listeners for sure. But like, come on, fellow bachelor alums. No, that's their thing.

Stop stealing our material. Yeah. Well, next thing you know, people are going to be Rick and Donna everywhere. Oh, yeah, that's right. Screw it. No. If I had a niggle. Okay.

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