Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Brandi Cyrus III

Episode Date: July 12, 2018

Kaitlyn and Brandi Cyrus recap the latest episode Bachelorette as they talk about Wills' Romphim, treatment of virgins on the show, and who they think the next Bachelor will be. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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The photo you posted of you cheerleading. Oh. That doesn't even look like you. Who is that? How is that you? I don't know. That's insane. And I thought I was in my prime.

Didn't we all, though? I really did. And I think I am now. And something tells me in 10 years. I'm going to be like, oh. Exactly. I always do that because I think about that photo. That's all my Instagram story.

Dude, that looks nothing like you. No, it looks like I was storing food for the winter. Or, like, got my wisdom. and teeth taken out. It's crazy. I know. You look totally different. But I was, I mean, that was like 13 years ago.

Yeah. That's a long time, I guess. It was 13. I was 20. 20. The best is, wait, the best is, does it say on here? I'm looking at it right now. It's had like a little bio about me, not even a bio.

Let me just see. Oh, there it does. No, it doesn't say it. I was the centerfold for the auto trader. Yes. And it said, my favorite car was a green poni. solstice. No. Green? A green Pontiac solstice? Paniac. What is wrong with me? What made you think of that? As I was driving a gold sunfire. Cute. Speaking of my favorite green Pontiac solstice, if you are looking to buy a car,

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dancing. Hip-hop. Hip-hop. Hip-hop. Hip-dance. Yeah. So that's cool. That's great.

Anyways. Auto-traitor. Anyways. You made it. Yeah, I really did. I felt like it was like a... You thought you'd made it. Yeah.

I was like, well, Sandra Photo the Auto Trader, cheerleading. This is it. I look my best. It can only... It can only go downhill from here. Oh, my God. Little bit, I'm out. Welcome to Grape Therapy.

Brandy, your session. It's now starting. Starting. Anything you want to get off your chest today? I don't know. Today's been pretty cool. Okay, that's good. Yeah.

Like at a busy day. I like being busy. Maybe I do too. Maybe you need to be my therapist today because I did have a random cry session in a spin class today. No. Yeah. That's not okay. You know, they really speak to you, though.

Sometimes a cry is all you need. Just a good cry. Just cry it all out. It was therapeutic. Yeah. Isn't my therapist voice? I know, I like it. I was like, this is it soothing?

It's pretty soothing, actually. But I guess we should recap the Bachelorette because. Yeah, let's recap. How many weeks do we have left? Not that many? What's the date today? Today is the 11th. So tomorrow is the 12th.

That's when this comes out. And then I think the finale's on the third. So we've got not about long. Like three weeks. Yeah, hometowns are next. I know. This season's been going by really fast. It cruised.

I was thinking that. I was like, how is it already hometowns? Yeah, that is kind of wild, actually. And I also. I just, I feel like I don't know these guys. I don't, I feel like I know Colton because I know him in real life. But other than that, I don't think I know Garrett at all. I don't know anything about him.

Jason, I feel like a little just because he had the recent one-on-one and he did open up a little bit. But I just really feel like these dudes, like, have not opened up for him. Okay, that's so bad. I don't remember his one-on-one. Jason's? Yeah. It was like, they had, his friends came and he like opened up a little bit during their, like, dinner, fake dinner. But I just, Garrett's like a mystery to me like, who are you?

It's so true. And then I always think back to other seasons and including mine. I'm like, is this how it was it on this week? Like, because I feel like it's really hometowns where you really get to know the guys. Yeah, that's true. But I still do. I'm having that same feeling as you. People always ask me for what advice I would give Bachelorette.

Oh. And I always like, stay true to who you are. Like that's just because my only like, that just seems like that is actually my advice. so cheesy. Yeah. But not anymore because I was watching this Monday's episode and I was like, okay, every time the Bachelor it walks into a room, the men are just in awe and they clap and they'll go, whoa. I know.

And they clap and they're just so happy to see you. So my new advice, I mean, that still happens if you're a bar full of like gross men, but. Or walking down the street. Yeah, but it's not like enjoyable. Like this is like, yeah, you know, you walk into room and you feel like a queen. So my new advice is to per, because I feel like you don't really take that in. Right. I'm like, you know what?

Enjoy that moment. Like take a pause, take a knee, do a twirl, do a couple twirls, like really soak in that moment where you walk into a room and people just look at you like you are a queen. Yeah, that's so, that's good. It's good advice. You think so? It sounds nice. It is. Yeah.

They just start clapping. That's crazy. Like they start clapping for you because you entered a room. And it's like a room full of hot eyes. Yeah, exactly. It's the best. It's a cream of the crop out there. And it sounds like as good as it gets, honestly.

Yeah. So enjoy it. I feel like you just let those moments slide. And, you know, I'm here to tell you. you enjoy it take it in take it all and soak it up soak it up anyways they're in the bahamas whereby wills is killing the game i just i love him he's killing the game like he is so calm cool collected yes he's wearing a freaking leopard romper in the bahamas i'm here for it who goes on that show and thinks you know what i'll pack a leopard romper number one i'll pack a leopard romper

And number two, I'm going to whip it out in the hot Bahamas. Like, what? Only wills. Only wills. And he pulls it off. That was next for me to say, and he pulls it off. I know. Like, I actually didn't even realize until my girlfriend text me and she goes,

Huh, Will's in the leopard romper. And I'm like, oh, my God. It just looks natural on it. He blended. Yeah. He was camouflaged. But truly, like, even though it's a ridiculous outfit, like, it's just like, you see it on him. And you're like, yeah, makes sense.

And maybe he had a slight idea he was going home. So he, like, pulled out. best of the best going out with the bed yeah he's like i'm going out guns blazing him i romp him yeah romp him that's what they're called google romp him can't should i do that right now r o mp h i ms and you wills and you will see what you will see wills it's a picture of wills probably it is romp him one word and we have no service in here oh go on the wifi there's no password You guys already need some free Wi-Fi in Nashville I wonder how tall Will's is

And if I could borrow the leopard romp him I bet you could borrow it You think I think he's tall But I also think I could rock like the baggy look That's what I'm thinking Like your baggy jeans that we like And where does he get them I wonder

I don't know I did see so I gave him a follow This week on Twitter And I did see he tweeted something today Where somebody asked him like who his stylist is And he said me He's like you're looking at him or something I was like him. So he clearly does his own shopping.

Guys, settle down. He's just on The Bachelor right now, okay? He doesn't have a stylist yet. Not yet. I don't think he needs one. No, he clearly doesn't need one. I think he's great. I think a stylist would take him down or not.

I agree with you. Yeah. Anyways, did you get to the rompins or what? I'm on the wiffy. Oh, oh. Oh, this is. Did you know that this is what was going to put? Oh.

What? That's a penis. It's a penis on a rompim. On an article of clothing. Is that? So don't Google romp him because... No, I want people to see that now. What is that?

Is that like a holder for your hammer? Take a look. I don't know what it is. Or is it like a print. It looks like a print. I lost it. A safari. Top right.

Oh. Oh, and that's $80. That didn't even register it to me when I saw. It's actually on sale. It used to be $120. The heck is it? Statue of David Rompher. Oh, my God.

Wow. Yeah, Google that for sure. Definitely. Google Romp him. That is very interesting. I'm like zooming now. You're like I need to see details. Good God.

Yeah, that's interesting. That's funny. I like Wills as Rompter better. When's your birthday? May 26th. We got a way to go. Oh, yeah. I knew that.

We got a way to go. What are you thinking? I'm getting you a statue of David. Romper. Oh, my God. Yes. It'll be my birthday soon. Oh, here's an American flab rompim that I wish I knew existed.

Yeah, that would have been great for the ponies. Yeah. 80 bucks. These are expensive. I'm telling you. But because people will buy them. I guess so. They probably jacked out the prices after Will's was on the season because everybody was wanting the rompums.

You know, if Will's is smart, he'll come out with his own line of rompim's. Really? He should. That's a great idea. I know. He should be his manager. Oh, call me. Call me my numbers.

You said you know Colton? Yeah. How? So I DJed, a friend of mine got married in L.A. And instead of a wedding, they threw a huge fundraiser at the Wiltern. It was awesome. And I DJed it. Wait, that is a great idea.

Dude, it was so cool. Yeah, it was awesome. And it was like, they got married earlier. It was like a quick ceremony and then like a gala and a concert. And then I DJed the after party. It was all at the Wiltern Theater. They raised a ton of money for all these different charities. And like Ben was there because Generous was involved.

Dean was there. He's friends with the bride. and just to support. So, like, oh, a bunch of bachelor people were floating around, and that's where I met Colton. Oh. Colton was there.

This was recent. This was, he had just come off of the Bachelor. Okay, okay. So, yeah, it was super recent in May. And then, so he's got a foundation for CF that he's involved with. He makes this vest for, like, CF patients. So, yeah, he was there.

He sat at our table. He sat right by me, and I got to know him a little bit. So, like, I feel like I know him because I've hung out with him, and I do know him. Yeah. But that's why I, like, but when I watch on TV, I'm like, I don't know. of these other guys because you guys don't have any

personality. It's crazy. I'm like show more. And then I'm like, what is going on? Like, why don't, what are they showing instead? I don't understand where the time has gone. Well, and I feel like a lot of the time has been all the drama with freaking Jordan and the guy we can never remember who's name. Oh, David. And then also

Logan, not Logan. Why do we call him Logan? I don't know. Wait, is that his name? He talks like with the British Shag said. Oh, freaking Lincoln. Lincoln. I always want to call him Logan. My British accent sucks, by the way. It was terrible. It was really bad.

But I can't do any better. Lincoln. Lincoln. Yeah. Yeah. There's just been a lot of like really silly drama this season. But not like good drama. Like really silly.

Childish drama. And like even on the one-on-ones, like what is like Garrett's one-on-one, the first one. Like I don't really like, I don't even remember hearing him talk. Yeah. All I remember he has been married before. Yeah. And that's what we know about Garrett. And that's all we know.

Oh, that's what you know. I do, I get good vibes from Garrett. Yeah. But I don't know him. I just, he's, yeah, he's just very, very quiet. I feel like we've really gotten to know Blake. I love Blake. Yeah, he's too nice.

And I get it, like, the past couple weeks, he's been a little squirrely and he's let it all get to him. But that's what happens when you're in love and on the show. Exactly. Everyone's saying it as a negative thing. Like, oh, no, Blake's being whiny. But, like, I would want that kind of reaction out of a guy. I agree.

Because if they're watching you with other people, you want a reaction. It's like a classic, like, when you're in a relationship and like some other guys flirting with you, you want your boyfriend to react. Yeah, it would be weird if they didn't. Yeah. So, like, I think it's fine that he's acting that he's acting out and being rude. He's just nervous and starting to spiral, which is exactly what you do in that situation if you're in love. And he's never said anything in the group. It's always on the OTFs and everything.

And so, like, I don't know. I just feel like that's fine. Like, that doesn't bother me about him. And I just from his first one-on-one, like earlier in the scene, I've always been like, Becca and Blake so freaking She said out loud That what you're thinking She feels the strongest for him

Yes and when she said that I was like And she I listened for editing tricks and everything And she said I feel as strong as for Blake And I was like That's believable to me Like it's when I see her Her chemistry with him is

You know I think the strongest out of everybody else's And I can't believe they got to dance to Who Let the Dogs Out and the Bahamas How jealous are you the most jealous that's my song everybody the producers never had to be talking about you on set that day they had to they'd be like ha ha this is kately's dream date suck it kately another shot to kately oh my god you know this is true like like are the bahama men really making a comeback or are they just trying to throw another jab at kately brisd they go that far out it's definitely about you

definitely yeah they go that far their way to make it about me so i'm like get over yourself We could have had Kanye West, but, like, we really want to take a jab at Caitlin. Let's get her. That's funny. Blake, I will say this. His dance moves were too good that it, like, turned me off. I agree. I was like, those hips are not supposed to move like that.

No. I know. Those hips were too good. They were like, I mean, he was. He was getting it. He let the dogs out. He let them out. He's for sure the guy that let the dogs out.

Oh, my gosh. Bahama men tweeted me today. I saw that. I was like, put me in your next video. A little starstruck. Yeah. It'll be okay. I'm just going to like read it a few more times before.

I printed it out, posted it on the wall. But I will say, I like how Becca was a little honest with Blake. She said she felt the strongest about him, but she didn't tell him that. I know. And then she said to him like, yeah, there are other guys. And I was like, good for you. Because as much as that stings in the moment, that probably will help him in the long run. if he ends up with her or doesn't because she kind of put that in his head and now he has to I mean probably go a little bit more crazy but now he's thinking about that so that he won't be so thrown off right like I kind of liked that she did that because she was really honest with him and it was one of the most real moments I've seen on that show agreed so I was like hey I can't believe they showed that that that was really real and she I don't know and he obviously that threw him off nobody wants to hear that because you feel like you're the only one in that situation yeah but I think that way he

he won't be so blindsided if she picks him and he's watching it back and if she doesn't pick him he won't be so blind blindsided right so it's very it's very interesting yeah it is Becca she's such a different bachelorette than we've seen she is I come I think I'm here for it I'm here for she's I feel like she's as transparent as she can possibly be even her facial expressions like she doesn't put on any face that she thinks she like she's like She's just like, she really listens to them all and doesn't have, like, certain reactions like, oh, my God. She's like, okay, really, okay. Like, she's, she's very real.

Yeah, she is. I'll give her that. I will give her that. It's very interesting to watch. Let's just rewind for a second to Colton's date. Oh, yeah. Because the whole. If I have to hear the word conk, one more time.

I was like, oh, my gosh, of course they choose a date where they have to go conk diving and it sounds like cock diving and pretend, like, because he's a virgin. Yeah. And I just wanted to know why The Bachelor always dives into people's sexuality. Like I get at sex cells, but do virgins? Like, why do they have to make them feel so uncomfortable and weird about being a virgin? Like, who cares if they are? Why do they always focus on their sexuality? I think it's so weird.

I mean, I think it's because they're a minority, it's, like, easy to call them out, I guess. Here's my question, though, is why does everybody just offer up that information to, like... I would be like, hey, that's actually a private conversation. Yeah. also like do they is that a question they ask you beforehand like are you a virgin have you had sex they asked that question and also are you that shallow that like if he was I guess it's a conversation to have but when it's such a main like focus of like who he is like he's probably so much more than a virgin and so for me I'm like it's just so weird because would she if if if he was like okay

I'm a virgin would she be like I'm going to send you home no I would do that No one. No one would do that. And she's got a good heart. She's not a monster. Yeah. I mean, but like. I found it weird.

Yeah. I think it's weird. Every season there's a virgin. Every season. I know. It's like they, it's like they look for it to like cast that character. And then they're like, yeah. And then they're like, oh, here we go.

He's our virgin. Mm-hmm. You got to have a virgin. Mm-hmm. Got to have a drunk guy. Yeah. Well, not anymore, but they. Not after the scandal.

Yeah. So I just feel like they cast for. Yeah. Like the, they, they knew that was their guy. Yeah. and why is that a tough conversation to have like he kept being like we're going to have to have that tough conversation yeah it shouldn't be a tough conversation I guess because of his um profession that he grew up doing and who he is in this athlete blah blah blah but I also feel so I hate that there becomes um gay rumors as soon as he says he's a virgin why is that people don't that's a girls exactly if a guy is a virgin if a guy is a virgin if a guy is a a virgin, he's gay. If a guy sleeps around, he's the man. If a girl's a virgin, she's a target. If a woman sleeps around, she's a whore. Yep. What? I don't get it. And we keep saying like, but it's 2018, but it's like, it's still like a double standard. I agree. And I don't understand. I just will never understand. And I just felt, I felt kind of bad for him because you know they pressured him into that conversation. I know. Because if I were him and I was a virgin, I would not offer up that information until I was headed into a fantasy suite. Why? Like, same way as sitting down with somebody and being. like, hey, I've slept with five people just so you know, is that okay with you?

Like on like a third date, like saying that. No, it's too weird. I think so, too. I just feel like if a guy had that information, like I don't, I obviously would not judge a virgin. I don't judge people have sex before marriage. As long as you feel like you're at a point in your life when you're like, I always think your first love should be yourself.

And then if you want to be a virgin from there, if that's your personal choice, amazing. Yeah. If you want to have sex before marriage and you feel comfortable with that, amazing. Yep. just don't judge people get back. Yeah. I'm with, yeah. I just get so fired up over that conversation because I just, I felt bad for him.

I really did because I knew it was like, well, not only was the thing on the show. It's, I follow him on Twitter and like I've seen as much he's reposted and clearly he's being targeted. Of course. After the fact. Which is, it's insane. How, like, it's just so stupid. I don't know. How do you get targeted for being who you are?

For all the haters, though, I guarantee you there's so many girls across country that are like, like, love him for that. That are like, oh my God. I've looked for. a guy like that like there's just as meant but it's like the haters are the ones that the haters are the ones that are like really going after it on twitter the people who are normal and actually just like have love for people usually just like aren't on twitter trying to reach people they don't know like preach yeah we get it we get it anyways the conch time and how it's an aphrodisiac like that's not that can't be true i don't know but i just google it it was

google it i google it i'm gonna tell you while you google it it was just so aggressive because Colton kept talking about pulling out the aphrodisiac and he's like, yeah, you just kept pulling out and it kept coming and coming. I'm like, stop, Colton. Like, how do you not know what you're doing right now? But precious little Colton. Would you ever go on the show? I really don't think so. They'd have to. I would love to watch you on that. Everybody says that. They would have to have some like, like a good budget. NBA All-Star Edition. Like, come on. That's funny. That's funny. But yeah, I'm like, I hate that I even have to question it because I'm just like, I know aphrodisiac I got it A-P-H-R-O-D-I-S-I-A-C I felt it right

Oh nice I'm like going through my notes I'm like well I already went off on the topic anyways Well the aphrodisiac history of Kank Kank was important to multiple native cultures throughout the early history of the Americas Its meat considered aphrodisiac to most of its early enthusiast was enjoyed

for its sweet, clean flavor Learned something every day It didn't look sweet and clean. It looked gross. This website, Eat Something Sexy.com calls Kank an aphrodisiac of the Americans. Okay.

Let me close that. I don't understand aphrodisiacs. Like oysters and champagne does nothing to me. No. I'm like, yeah, feel pretty much the same thing. Just a little drunk. Yeah. In full.

Little bloated from the sodium. Yeah, which makes me not really wanted sex. I'm like, not really feeling it, actually. it does the opposite for me yeah um okay garret and becca yeah he's been married before and i think some people might have an opinion on that but i'm saying it doesn't matter how we feel about him being married before because he's not our guy he's beckas right um but what do you think your fears would be if a guy had been married when you met him so have you ever dated a man yes oh okay my last boyfriend um actually oh there you go no uh yeah my ex-boyfriend he i knew him in high school

actually. And he got married really young. And then got divorced a little bit after that. He probably stayed married like four years. And then they had a kid. But I'd just known him so long. And so he'd been divorced for several years. And then he asked me out. And I said, yeah. And at the time, like, I just didn't really feel one way or the other about it. And honestly, like, it didn't bother me at all. the downside is dealing with the ex-wife if the ex-wife sucks. Yeah, totally depends on the ex-i. I would completely agree with that.

Especially with a kid involved because the ex-wife is around because there's a kid. You know what I mean? If there's no kid and the ex-wife has no reason to be around, then you're free and clear. Or if she's just great. Or if she's great, which happens a lot. Yeah. But it doesn't bother me.

Honestly, like, I'm 31 and like that just doesn't turn me off at all. I wouldn't be against a guy who had been divorced because I feel like he would have learned a lot. That's what I think, too. And so many people get married so young, especially here in the South, where I grew up, that it's like, honestly, like, if you're going to not date anyone that's divorced, like, it's already slim pickings. Like, you're really narrowing it down to, like, there's not much out there. Yeah. So. That's true.

And it doesn't make the, you know, I think that's the same thing with Garrett. I think he said he was, like, fresh out of college. And I think he's a bit of a hopeless romantic. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like I don't know. I don't know. I'm just making that up.

But he just seems sweet. I think Becca really likes him. Oh, for sure. So something's going on, even if we're not seeing it. I think she really, I think she, to me it's Garrett and Blake and then Jason. Mm-hmm. Wait, who's the other? Colton.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, but we already know. Yeah, I think Blake and Garrett are her top two. I think so, too. Becca said they've been through the same thing with being engaged and giving more than they were getting. Yeah. Which I thought that was really sweet that they can, like, relate to that. I do too.

Because I think they'd really put each other first. because Becca obviously doesn't want to do what Ari did to her, even though she now has like a little bit of empathy for him because she can realize that you can fall for more than one person. But I don't know, Garrett seems super stable to me and like that he learned from his mistakes and that he's okay with being vulnerable. And I think they would both really put each other first, which is so important. It also seems like they have a lot in common.

Yeah. Like a lot out of everybody there. And I think there's something to be said for that. I do too. I do too. I think they, like, I think the Blake thing seems more of, to me, from a viewer and from being in that situation, to me, Blake seems more like a fairy tale, romantic, like, oh, he's saying everything I want, tall, handsome, sweet, Prince Charming. Yeah. And Garrett's more like longevity, like I could see that working out for them.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Agreed. Anyhow. But who am I? Who am I? I don't understand that world. Okay, guys, this one's for my fellow Canadians when I'm back.

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And while you're at it, rate and review mine, too. Cool. Five stars. Five stars. And amazing job, Caitlin, cool. You're listening to Off the Vine Race Therapy. With Blake's date, we kind of already talked about his hips and the Bahamas, but at the nighttime portion, I kind of felt bad. for his story he was saying you know about his parents that how his mom was cheating with because I'm like ah your family doesn't sign up for that I know you sign up for it your but your family doesn't and I think that's like obviously it says a lot about who Blake is because he's being

just honest and open and vulnerable and that's everything that you have to do to get there with somebody to be engaged you draw the line you have no other option and so it's such a hard time for the family because I'm like I mean even though that's a really thing your family doesn't want that out there. And I felt really bad because he's just doing what he needs to do to open up to her and to be what she needs him to be. Especially because he is panicking thinking there's other dudes. Right. Like I got to pull out of the stops. I got to go. You know what I mean. And I would want to know, you know, because it's it just, it's all about your childhood really does, like, shape you. Oh, thousand percent. And so he needs to give her that information. And I, there's so many good

things that could come from that because like he said, he doesn't want to go through that. He doesn't want to put his children through that but it's like also that's probably going to be a really huge insecurity of his and so and for her like she had a great her yeah example of love and so it's just it's so I felt really bad I watch it and I'm like it was hard to watch it is because it's just like people forget that these are real people I know and we're just like I don't know I just it got really real for me in that moment I was like wow yeah I understand why he did it but I also feel bad. Yeah. It was kind of like kind of reminded me a little bit of the Dean situation. Yeah, exactly.

With his family. Because then you're like, okay, so what are they going to do with hometowns? Because you know they always set it up. I know. So I don't know. Yeah. And that's just always, I always feel bad for the families because like I said, they don't sign up for it. You do. And then they're just thrown into it. Wait, maybe we did. Actually, I think we did see a preview of hometowns. Do we? We did. Because now that you say that,

every single set of parents that they show a clip of each one of them and they're all like, I don't like this. Like I'm not for the or whatever. Like, everyone's Very negative towards Becca. Do you remember seeing that? Yes, but I also remember that every single season they make the families seem like they're going to be f***y. They do. They never are. Yeah.

You're right. And if Blake's going to be The Bachelor, if she doesn't – Do you think? Well, if she doesn't pick him, he's not going to go on Paradise. No. I don't know. I don't know. I think girls –

Do you think she's going to pick Blake? I don't know. I don't know either. I want her to pick Blake. That's who I want her to pick. but usually they never pick the one I want them to pick so it's probably sorry Blake I shouldn't like you so much but it is confusing because I've

I was really shocked that they showed her say that she cares the most about him I would yeah I was too yeah uh huh but there's just a way I still it's like it's like ingrained on my mind in the last rose ceremony I saw where she was like Garrett it was just the way she said it that really stood out to me and I was like so I don't know she doesn't

you can tell she's very I think he feels very safe to her and I think I think she's very attracted I think it's all the right things are there I think it's just more fairy tale with Blake I do too yeah anyways then there's a three on one but it's like okay the three on one is so uh wait do they always do a three on one yes they do yes but it always turns into a two on one the three on one's so weird for me yeah first of all I just need to about I had this in my nose that Blake said falling in love is fun but staying in love would be more fun dead he has the best lines I died I know I died inside because I was like that you're you're right he's going to be the bachelor you know how I've talked yeah you know how I've talked to you

about this before when we were in L.A. I was like the honeymoon phase when it ends it's so sad and you're like but maybe that's okay yeah and I'm like I did say that too you did but I mean staying in love I'm such a realist you are you are but staying in love doesn't mean you're just out of the like you can still go out of the honeymoon thing. phase and stay in love. Totally. I'm just saying like, when he said that, I was like, I know, I know. Just telling.

To clarify. My point with that was to say that it's okay if it doesn't feel the same as it did in the honeymoon phase because it's probably a deeper love. Exactly. Like, it's still love and it can be just as great. It just might not. We're brainwashed to think love looks like. The movies.

Exactly. And it might fill away for a second. So that was my point to Caitlin, just to clarify. Everybody jumps on me. Sorry, I guess in my mind, I knew what you meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. blame but yeah no I'm glad you brought it up because I still I do feel that way but I liked that that advice too because I'm like but that's that's I'm like oh man if Sean said that to me

I would just crumbed I would crumble I'm such a sucker for romantic lines is words of affirmation your love language of course it is I mean if he just said if he said something to me like I just being in love or falling in love with you is fun but being in love with you is the best oh die I would die that's all you need to say to me I feel like I feel like That's like a Ben Higgins line. Maybe Blake is going to be The Bachelor. He totally is. Now that I'm thinking about it.

You go, Blake. Go, Glenn Coco. All of a sudden, you're like, maybe I will sign up. Will's made up. Oh. What did you do something? No. If Will's, what?

Hey. Will's will be on Paradise. Yeah. They tweeted that. Yeah. But does he find love is the question. I'm trying to find out. Yeah, we're going to find out.

We're going to find out. Because if he hasn't, he will. Okay. He is so precious. I saw it. He will. Oh, you just didn't laugh. Okay, cool.

I laughed inside. No, I wanted to laugh, but I was picturing in my brain. Him getting out of the car and crying. It was really heartbreaking because, okay, so the three-on-ones, I'm like, they're always more awkward to me and painful than the actual two-on-ones because two-on-ones are entertaining. There are two-on-ones. that just focus on each other. Three on ones is always like three good guys that kind of get along that like I'll just really

like her. Yeah. Where I'm like, oh, and then she has to send one home. Yeah. And then it becomes a two on one. The Leo goodbye was very awkward. It was so awkward because I had to rewind and rewatch it because I missed her telling him that he's leaving.

It was like that weird. Yeah, it was kind of subtle. It was odd. It was weird. And he like grabbed her face and he was just this like Amazon man and I was like, You guys aren't there, don't know that. Yeah. I just want him to be a model for my new scrunchies.

I think he will be up for that. Yeah. I tell you the truth. I think he's going to be like, yes. I think he will too. But yeah, he's got, now does he go to Paradise? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

He does. Mm-hmm. We'll find out how that goes. Yep. I feel like he's, I mean, it sounds like he's, like, made for paradise, actually. Oh, really? He looks like he's made for paradise. He does.

He looks like, um, I think I've said this before, but maybe I was. drunk. He looks like Maui from Moana. Did I say that before? Yeah, you did. And somebody else the other day was saying he looks like the dude from Game of Thrones a little bit. I don't watch Game of Thrones. I know. I know. Now I'm just opening up the doors for everybody to go. What? Literally last night. I had a tough day yesterday. Yeah. Oh, I did. But I was in bed eating Koso. No. But I was like, because I'm over it. Yeah. But I was in bed eating Koso. Yeah. And I was just looking for something to watch. And I was like, you know what? I've been a little down lately, and I really think it's because I miss Game of Thrones.

Oh. Truly. Yeah, you miss the characters. You're invested. I freaking miss it, and it's not coming back to the next year. Oh. I blame Game of Thrones for my slight depression. That is me.

I hear you. That is me with Big Little Lies. I can't handle. Great show. The best, and I can't handle that it's just like we have to wait until. I know. I don't know when, but a long time. Anyway.

What are your, okay, wait. We already talked about your down day. I had a down day, too. I've been having a few of those Down days are the worst Is there something in the air? I do think something's in the air Yeah

I've been just like low I met a friend today for a minute And she was having a down month And I was like man I'm having a down few weeks Yeah I really Yeah me too I put up and down

I can pull it together Yeah And I can still like get through my days And like Oh yeah Have a good time Yeah Like nobody panic

And like send somebody after Caitlin and I Yeah I'm okay We're good But I will go home And cry myself to sleep With Kesa With Kesa in bed for the second night in row.

You can't cry in bed with queso. No, no, I wasn't cry. I was happy about the queso. I was like, cheap day. That's exactly. That was, I've ate Mexican twice now today. Yeah. Anyways, what are your thoughts on Will's and Jason?

We know your thoughts on those. You know I love Will's. Yeah. Jason, though. As much, I feel like, I feel like my love for Will's clouds my judgment a little bit of him of him and Becca. And I mean that to say, like, I love Will's and I'm always, like, rooting for him. because I like him but I to be honest

like I don't see much between him and Becca I think she I think she enjoys talking to him I think she likes hanging out with him he seems fun they have things in common she always says like

they're nerdy and have that in common or whatever I compare him to Jared for me because Jared was my fourth yeah and he was just someone that I felt friends with

he always hates when I said that because I was like sure I'm sure but he was someone that I just related to I felt comfortable around him he kind of was like my little like fall back on like I could always know I'd have a good time with him makes you feel good

he's cute like whatever totally I think that's what that's what I think too so I was a little shocked to see wills be so emotional about going home just because like I just didn't realize they were there you know what it is though what is it it's the producers cutting to the core of you on that drive home like really making you question why someone would send you home and like what's wrong with you like they're probably like what you know like did she you not want to meet your family? Well, like, oh, I shouldn't say that's what you. Oh, my God.

It kills me. Because I just know, because I've been on the other side of it, not on the show, but on other shows where when you're in an interview situation, they ask you to repeat the question back to you. So whenever I hear somebody say, yeah, I think, yeah, I think I do deserve to find love. Yeah. I know that they have sat there and asked that person, do you think that you deserve to find love? What a messed up question to ask someone.

Well, and who's going to say, no? No, I don't deserve love. love. I'm on the bachelor at. No, I don't deserve to find love. But will you put me as the next bachelor? Cool. Oh, my gosh. No one's going to say it. But like, what a, what a messed up question to ask somebody? It is a mess up. Everyone deserves love. There's a lot of messed up questions they ask. But that's a, I wonder what, did they even show, I just about called him Fabio. Oh, gosh. Leo. Leo. Fabio, bra. Did they even have a exit for him? Or did he just, like, kick sand while they, like, went off on a boat? I think that's what happened.

Oh. Yeah. I'm sorry, Leo. Sorry, buddy. Actually, he probably, like, it's better off. Yeah, I'm curious to see what he's going to be like in Paris. The ex-interview sounds brutal. The what? Exit interview.

Oh, exit interview. Oh, yeah. The ex-interview. He probably still got one. They probably just ended up. Didn't air it, yeah. Like, we don't know how much. Wills's was just, oh.

It was heart-wrenching. So precious. You just want to hug them. Yeah. And then be like, give me your rompers. Give me your rompims. Give me your rompims. It's freaking turns into a two-on-one with Jason and Will.

Like, I just, it was just, anyways, I was, I was surprised Will's went home. I was too. I know, like I knew, I feel like they were both at the same place with Becca, but I thought Becca was more into Will's than she was Jason. I'm going to make a bold statement. Here we go. I think she was more into Will's than Jason. Yeah. But I think the idea of Jason is more appealing.

And that can sound really bad, but I just, it doesn't mean it's not right. Right. I see what you're saying. I don't know. Jason, he has a really great job. And he seems like just very like together. But he lives in Buffalo. I wouldn't want to live in Buffalo.

All the people listening to Buffalo, right? But I also say that because let's look at who Becca has left. Yeah. Colton, Garrett. Yeah. Who else? Blake. Blake.

Okay. Not, these guys are great. Yeah. Super hot. Great dudes. Love them all. But they're very venous. guys. They all are like pretty like safe on paper. I don't feel that way about Garrett. I don't feel like he's vanilla.

Really? I think he's the most vanilla. Really? Yeah. I think I'm really hanging on to his opening package from the beginning of the season when he impersonated Chris Farley. Oh, I forgot about that. I think that's what I hang on to because I'm like, man, that guy is funny. There's a goofy side of him, but we don't get to see very much of it. But I think she probably did more. They're just, you know, they're just showing the more serious parts. Maybe he's not as vanilla as I think. I think he's good. But that's why I say I think the idea of Jason is more appealing is because Will's is not vanilla at all. No. He's very creative. He's goofy. You know, like, I don't know.

Like, and I like, those are qualities I like him somebody. Do you like Will's? But I think Becca likes the safe choice. I think she's like from the Midwest. It's like makes complete sense. And so I don't know. That's kind of why I thought she picked Jason. Well, she's actually said out loud a few times that people make her feel.

safe and that's clearly something that she's attracted to is feeling safe which I guess you want in a relationship but I mean you know what I mean like she she likes safe right she's made that obvious so and you know what whatever I think I wish I like safe maybe I like I like safe but I like edgy you yeah you don't like safe I don't like I do no what do you mean Sean B is not safe are you serious no what do you mean I don't know I don't know what do you mean explain to me what you mean like Sean's not like Sean's not like a like 9 to 5

I'm going to do the same thing every day and yeah I guess no he's just he's more a little more like carefree than that yeah I and did you date a hockey player or two yeah but that's what I learned is that I didn't like that so you thought Sean was safe I don't think he's safe in a way where I guess I'm thinking of safety as loyalty. Yeah.

That's what I'm thinking. But see, I don't because I think if anyone was loyal as wills. Yeah, that's true. The way he talks to Becca, like, seems super loyal. Maybe we just have different opinions on safety. Yeah. My definition of safe with Becca is like on paper meets what she thinks she wants in a guy. Like, should have a guy.

Okay. Then no, I don't like what's safe. Yeah. I don't think you do. But I think a lot of girls do. I just like loyalty. Mm-hmm. I like romance. Loyal, hey, loyalty.

That's a great talk. I like committed, loyal, romantic. Don't we all, though? Yeah. I guess that doesn't mean safe, but I just want to feel safe. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like safe. I like to feel safe.

Exactly. It's a difference. You know what? This is a great therapy. It is great therapy. I'm even like therapy. Therapeutic. Therapizing? Therapuising. Pusing myself while talking. You're therapeutic.

Therapeuticing. What's the verb? Google it. Ms. Google it. I don't know. Google it. I'm going to Google it. Anyways, next week's hometowns. Crazy. Insane. I'm going to do a E takeover on their Instagram. I'm not sure what. I think on the 30th maybe. Therapize is a verb.

Oh, Therapies. Therapies. Oh, good for you. I would have been like, stop making up words. Well, if you want to hear somebody correct me about all my wrongs, Wells just did that for the past hour. Oh, okay. So your guys' podcast was on. Why did you guys take a month break?

Because he was filming. He was in paradise. Okay. Yep. And so now you're back. We back. And apparently I said a lot of things incorrect on episode one. Oh.

We just recorded episode two of season two. And he was like, let me just start by saying you were wrong about like five things last week. And I'm going to correct you right now. And he was right about every single one of them. Oh, dang. I stand corrected. I hate when he's right. But I am right about therapies.

Yeah, I honestly would have thought you made that up. Yeah. So what do you guys talk about on your, well, I know it's called what's your favorite? Your favorite thing. We just shoot the shit, really. Talk about some favorite things. Sometimes talk about some not so favorite things. There you go.

Oh, one thing we talked about. What? And it was my favorite thing, ding, ding, ding, that Wells has ever said on any podcast you've ever had because I could not agree more. What was it? Biggest pet peeve ever. Okay. When someone says, I could care less.

Because that's not correct. It's I couldn't care less. Because if you say I could care less, then you could care less than you care, which means you care. Oh, wow. And the point you're trying to make is that you could not care less. I'm going to take that home with me. Dude.

I couldn't care less. I couldn't care less. I could not care any less than the least I feel or now. But if you could care less, then you could feel, then you could. I'm like really hoping that in my life I've never said that in general, but also in front of you. Now that we've said it, you're going to notice when people say I could care less and you're going to be like. I think there's smoke coming out of your ears. I'm worried about you.

Wells and I go on and on about it for probably two minutes, solid. Yeah, you guys would have good banter. He's good at bantering. Yeah, he's good. He's talked for a living for a lot. Yeah, that's his thing. 15 years or something. It's this thing.

You know how your podcast is called your favorite thing? Yeah. You know, that's one of my favorite things? What's that? Amazon. Who doesn't love Amazon? I do. Do you know what else I love?

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Did you notice how short his swim trunks are? No. Oh, my gosh. Every time. And like, they're so low that like you can kind of see pupils. care and I'm like I'm like no dangerous I think I'm just so used to Sean be in his short shorts that I'm like yeah that they probably seem long and baggy to me we were LOLing about Sean's outfit on the fourth because oh the USA shirt because the theme of the party was like hillbilly right like white trash fourth of July yeah and Sean shows up looking like an Olympic athlete that's because I didn't tell him the memo I just said be be patriotic he goes oh this USA soccer shirt and I was like perfect And then I had like my fanny pack. Yeah, you did it right.

You did it right. I had like the two balloons. Oh, yeah, he posted that video. It cracked me up. Hong Kong. On, gong. Everybody's just freaking harping on me for being drunk. I'm like, it was the 4th of July.

Well, my friend Allie came way too late. She came as it was getting dark. And she was like, nobody was drinking when we got there. And I was like, that's because we were all blackout by 5 p.m. We had to slow down by the time you got there. If we were drinking, you would have had to call 9-1-1. Literally. Yeah.

It was just like we all went really hard, really fast. See everybody? I wasn't the only one. Oh, no. Do you see that video of me doing my overdive on the diving board? No. Where's that? I think this is what the kids call a full send. I think that's what this is called.

Look at it. I think that's what the kids call. I think this is what you call a full send. I got to see. Oh, God. Who posted this? Oh, me. You did?

On my off the vine page. Oh. Oh, wow. The whiffy in here is tough. It's tough. Let me refresh this and see what happens. The diving board. I vaguely remember my friend Jackie throwing me over his shoulder and jumping off the diving board with me over his shoulder.

And I remember thinking in that moment, like, I'm going to, this is where I die. This is how we go. This is the end of my life. But here I happen to tell about it. But here we are. Okay, yeah, this isn't. Maybe I'll just turn off the wiffy and see what happens. Oh.

Oh, my gosh. I just, like, am in a bikini, like, dancing. And then I just think about something for a second. And I'm like, I'm just going to dive in. And I just chuck my hat. I don't even know whose hat that was. I just chuck it and I over-dive. It was insane.

Full-send, apparently. If that's the same. Is that how you say it? F-S. Full-send. Anyways. That's our Bachelor at Recap. That's a little extra for you.

Yeah. Man, people probably really appreciate it when you're here because sometimes I try to do these alone and it doesn't landy. I mean, it's, I mean, it is what it is. Well, I'm trying. I'm happy to talk about it. Yeah, I'm probably going to drag you into this for most great therapies now. That's fine. Thanks for coming on.

Thanks for bringing me guac. Thanks for therapyizing with me. Yes. I will use that word again. Side notes, saw my therapist today. God love her. God love her. I got to go see her.

Oh, she is. Yeah, she is. Yeah, she's a gram queen. Her name's Angela. Can I say that? Yeah. Her name's Angela. And she, Caitlin, now.

She's a nice accent. You love a southern accent. I live for a southern accent. And when she speaks to me, I'm just like, you just feel so happy. Yeah. I do. She's like, well now, Caitlin. Well now.

Bless your heart. Oh, it's so sweet. Okay. Let's wrap this up. I keep rambling. Okay, bye. Okay, bye. Your session is now.

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