Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Bridin’ Dirty in DC with “Plié Pirouette Papi” Justin Glaze

Episode Date: November 25, 2021

We’re coming in hot from the nation’s capital with the one-and-only Justin Glaze! So hot that Justin needed an iced coffee (but KB still will do hot, thank you). Kaitlyn and the Vinos put Justin on the spot with the questions everyone needs answers to including is he dating anyone, would he date Katie again (this was on Saturday, FYI), what are his non-negotiables, his worst dating experience, what ice cream flavor he would ghost you over, and who he has left on read. KB tells her own nightmare of a date story that included a gay bar, potato skins, and a pilot (that sounds like the start of a bad joke) and the pair play a game of charades where Justin dominates the ballet moves. It all leads up to one of the best confessions we’ve heard in a long time and one that will make us all feel better about our own decisions we made when we were 13. And yes, we are looking for photo evidence, stay tuned on @offthevinepodcast IG…. CHINET: Chinet Brand makes premium disposable tableware for all of life’s gatherings. Visit mychinet.com to find out more. CREDIT KARMA: Head to Credit Karma.com/LoanOffers to see personalized offers with your Approval Odds right now. GEICO: Go to GEICO.com, get a quote, and see how much YOU could save. It’s GEICO-easy! USANA: Visit USANA.com to see each Active Nutrition product for yourself and make sure to use the promo code Podcast15 at checkout to save 15% on your Active Nutrition order. OXICLEAN: Work your magic with Oxiclean White Revive! Visit myoxiclean.com for cleaning tips and tricks. SUGARWISH: Go SugarWISH.com/VINE TO get $10 dollars off your order today. Send a Sugarwish for the holidays and let them pick exactly what they want. TRAVISMATHEW: Head over to TravisMathew.com/radio and take 20% off your TravisMathew order at checkout when you use the code “VINE20”. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What's up, Vino's. This is Justin. May not be exactly who you were expecting, but I am going to take full advantage of this opportunity to say, welcome to grape therapy on behalf of the one and only KB. That's right, Caitlin Bristow. Now, you may remember me as that guy with the uncontrollable facial expressions from Katie's season. And although that may be correct, What you might not know, but what you do know if you're at the D.C. live show is that my ballet routine is unmatched. That's correct from that on. Only referred to me as Cleet Pirouette Poppy. And while we're on the topic of dancing, I don't know where this rumor of Justin hates to dance. Justin does not like to dance at all. I couldn't tell you where that came from. All I can say is don't believe

everything you hear. But I got to say, the DC crowd, y'all brought it at that live show. Ladies and shout out to the few gentlemen that were in attendance. I see you. I appreciate you and I respect y'all. But y'all were a crazy bunch. I'm seriously considering growing my hair so I can wear dues with y'all. But speaking of hair, specifically eyebrow hair, I did end up Busting out a confession that I swore I was going to take with me to the grave, mortifying, embarrassing. All I can do is hope and pray that you all have just as embarrassing preteen horror stories. God, it haunts me even thinking about it. Unfortunate for me, fortunate for you all that you're going to get to hear this.

You'll hear that, some intense debates over ice coffee, dating life, and a whole lot more. So sit back and enjoy. You guys know who my guest is tonight? Let me Let me pump his tires for a second Because this is why I have notes Are you guys proud of me? I have notes Okay, so my guest for today

He's a lot of incredible things He's career driven He has an artistic side He's romantic He knows he's a catch But one thing he is not Is a man of mystery because his facial expressions say it all he was an absolute favorite on katie's season and so fun to have on the podcast and now here live with all of you please welcome and give a really big round of applause for mr justin glaze

Yes, honey, fill yourself up. J.G. In the House. Hi, Justin. K.B. Oh. My girl. My guy. I'm so excited you're here. It took a lot of work to get him here.

I will have you know. The bachelor contracts are a bitch. They tried to hold us back. They try to hold us back. They really do. Justin, how are you? What is going on? What's new in your life?

How do you have the time to come visit? it us all today? He's like, it's a, what day is it? Actually, I don't even know. I don't know. All the days blend together. Saturday? He's like, it's a Saturday. I don't, yeah. I mean, it's tough when you come off the show and you go into it, and I know Jason had the same issue. He was like, he did a whole spreadsheet on like the probability of how long he was going to be there. That's what you finance guys do. Big Excel sheet guy. And so he was like, well, the probability. Like, he thought he was going home like week two. He did a probability. oh yeah and he did a whole presentation for his office to get to be able to go on

even though he was like I didn't really want to go on I'm like you made an Excel spreadsheet you literally had a fucking PowerPoint presentation set up to go on the show he thought he was going home week too yeah I feel like most of America thought I was too I can relate well you know it Justin I will say I knew you weren't I knew you weren't I knew you weren't because I was behind the scenes and it's so funny because you were every like I'm not just saying like viewers or like producers loved you like I was so shocked with the little amount of screen time you got because everyone loved you including Katie here we go with the facial expressions it's gonna be all night it's gonna be all night I can't

I can't help it it's gonna be don't ever help it that's your shit that's all people know about me no we know more about you now because you know you're hangary oh it's bad yeah Justin and I have been known to have a few disagreements in our life really just once but it was on my podcast the last time you're on. Can you raise your hand if you liked ice coffee year-round? Year-round, you psychos! Thank you all. No matter what, negative 30, I don't care.

Catch me with an ice coffee. Catch me with an ice coffee. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, raise your hand if you think it's weird to drink hot coffee in the middle of the summer. Not that many. Thank you, huh? Not that many. It was over 50%.

I would say it was 40. I would say it was 40%. I clearly am a big hot coffee guy, and Justin here is a big cold coffee guy. But I have science to back me up where hot coffee, hot beverages, you're like, did we really come here to talk about coffee? And science. Okay. Sorry, Ryan. But hot coffee in the summer.

cools down your body temperature. Mother f***er. I spent like an hour after that podcast trying to debunk that and I couldn't find a source that said otherwise. I learned it from my dad and he's a smart man. Mike, my dad, Mike. He knows his coffee.

Still weird. You know, it's not. I like cold coffee when I'm hung over and I like coffee otherwise. And you know what? To each their own. I have some questions for you. you, Justin.

I'm nervous. Really deep, hard-hitting questions that all the vinos want to know. Are you dating? Huh? Was the connection bad? Did you hear me? Are you dating? I haven't paid my bill yet.

The cell service is a little spotty. You said what? Are you dating? Like, am I dating someone? Everyone ask them, one, two, three. Are you dating? Did you hear us now? That's a little better.

Okay. I'm not dating. anyone but I am like dating okay like I'm open to yeah you're open to dating you've been on dates single I want to know in your dating life well first of all Katie's single would you oh my god everyone's saying no I'm going through a dead zone again would you we'll say we'll say it on three we'll say Katie's single would you say would you One, two, three. Any single would you?

Now did you hear it? If y'all were me, would you? No. I think that was 100%. I think that was 100%. What? I literally thought everyone would say yes. Yes. She said...

Thank you. Thank you. Nobody's. Yeah. She said you are nobody's third choice. No, I heard that. I'll try to ignore it. Yeah. Would you mean third? That's nice.

He's not. Why third? Yeah. Wait. He was second. You're like the rest of them. You remind me of the rest of them. Triggered.

He was second. Yeah. But a lot happened in that time. A lot happened. Two, three, four, five, whatever you want to call it. Like, there was like. Like, I don't know, I feel like since Andrew left and then things started getting weird and then Michael A left and then Greg was... Could you tell how stressed I was when you came in?

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My song hasn't come out for 12 days of Messi. Oh, yeah. Okay, wait. I did want to talk about that. How do we feel about the 12 days of Messi? Kate, I actually, I was very shocked. I asked that last night in New York. I was like, how do people feel about it?

And everyone was like, no. And I thought people would have loved it. Did you? It's messy. Don't we? Isn't that why we all watch The Bachelor and The Bachelorette? Because we like to watch messy. Okay, we've moved on.

Okay. But people will do. It's funny, Bachelor World. You know, they're, like, so many good people come out of that franchise. I've made so many good friends. And then there are some real dicks out there. I want to know, and I got a fiancé out of it. I want to know what your non-negotiables are in a relationship.

What is something that you're like, she smokes, uh-uh, or like, what is a non-negotiable? Short girls. We love our short girls. Yes. We don't discriminate with the height. We love all shaped sizes and colors here. Don't you ever forget it. What's your non-negotiable?

The cigarettes was a good one. I wouldn't say that's top of, I mean, non-negotiable, like, are we being serious? Are we getting serious, like? Getting serious here. All right, fine. It's not all dick jokes and fart jokes here. We get deep sometimes. I really.

What? Did I'm... Pardon? Oh. Oh, I said, we go deep. Oh, I said we go deep. We go deep sometimes. We get deep sometimes.

Sex jokes. Thank you. You are a true vino over there. Spoken like a true vino. Okay. Like mint chocolate chip ice cream. She likes it. What do you do?

She's out. She's out. She's out. I'm joking. I'm joking. No, he's joking. But mint chocolate chip ice cream is disgusting. We've got enough room in the freezer for several ice cream flavors.

It literally is like you put a tube of toothpaste in the freezer and like, hmm, with a couple chocolate chips in there. Correct. Correct. If you enjoy cold toothpaste for dessert, I do your thing. Yeah, what's your favorite ice cream flavor? Are we talking like basic flavors or like exotic?

In general. I got a sweet too. We can go for hours on this, but. Number one ice cream flavor in the world. Like standard? Dude, it's not that deep. Favorite ice cream flavor.

Cookies and cream? Yeah. Cookies and cream, you can't go wrong. It's reliable. But I love anything with caramel. Okay. Anything with caramel. Is anyone from Canada by any chance here?

for real okay you know caramelk bars we don't have those in the States caramel bars you would like that it's a caramel milk bar caramilk oh I say milk weird okay

caram milk how do you C-A-R-A-M-I-L-K and it's a bar and it's little squares with caramel filled in the middle oh I would like that it's nice

I would like that no but we have an ice cream shop in Baltimore that does crazy flavors and I talk about it on your pocket the Samoa flavor Yeah. Like, be more licks. Be more licks.

They go crazy. They go crazy with a flame. Okay. Let me ask you this. What is your worst date experience you've ever had? Oh, my God. All right. Oh, you've gone.

Okay. Yes. So I met, I met this girl off of Hinge, I believe. Ooh. God, do a great start. Times get tough sometimes. No, I respect all. forms of dating you meet anywhere these days

yeah so so we went out on this date was this pre or post bachelor show pre pre pre oh okay I'm not on hindrance oh okay damn it was I bought my radius why not yeah I'm tired

I don't know the front row is spicy tonight so I'm big on like you know I don't like small talk you know like if the vibe is there through text whatever like you can you can tell sometimes you know and it was there you know um we had planned on going out on like a thursday i believe and she was like playing a kickball game or something we hadn't talked for a couple hours

and then she like cold called me out of nowhere i'm like cold cold like i don't know like had never talked on the phone before and just called me out of nowhere you could save 30% or more with geico we've been trying to contact you about your car insurance so i'll make a long short anyway so she called me out of nowhere so i'm like okay she must because i didn't want to like double text like hey we're still hanging out tonight you know so she don't do that don't look vulnerable like you didn't just come off national television it was before the show before the show oh right right okay okay fair fair fair so she called me and she was like hey like i'm almost ready like you want to go i'm like okay cool just go to a bar around the corner oh i'm not proud

of where we went i'm not proud of where it was nothing like extravagant it was like we're literally getting drinks on the Thursday it was her i was ready to go to dinner or something I was ready to go to dinner she just said she was tired from her kickball games Go on. I just want to hear the bad part. So we go to get, we go to get drinks, and she's sitting, like the bar's here, the front door's here. She's sitting where you're sitting. I'm sitting here.

Yeah, she's looking here. And that's exactly what she did the whole time. I'm trying to have a conversation. She's just looking out the door. I'm like, and I like to think I can, like, hold a conversation. I can talk to a good variety of people. And she's like, so tell me, like, do you have any brothers or do you? And I'm like, okay, like, I'm talking about my brother.

I'm like, she's asking a lot of questions with my brother. I'm like, okay. What do you do for work? I'm like, okay, standard stuff. And I'm telling her, and she's just like, uh-huh. Oh, okay. Do you like it? And I'm like, yeah, it's cool.

I like, I like it. Trying to make guy contact. What do you do? Like, yeah. And then she's like, she would ask me another question. Yeah. To like, and then she's on her phone. I'm like, I'm like, um, so my favorite food is like, yeah.

And she. You're like texting her. When I knew, when I knew it was done, she hit me with a yawn. And I was like, Justin y'all like not even like a discreet like hold it in she was like like patting

I was like and I think she because you y'all know me like I couldn't hide it anymore so I was just like and she was like I'm so sorry like long day work kick blah blah blah you're good and then she goes she goes wait actually can we switch seats because I'm a little I'm a little ADD and I keep getting distracted

by the people walking by okay so when you went on The Bachelorette. Did you hear from her? No, but I did hear from a lot of others. Oh, it's the best. Take me to the curb. Yep. The best is the people that come out of the word works after you go on the show.

You're like, really? They got left on red. Every single. Yeah. Transparent is fucking. Yeah. Left on red. You don't got time for that. Mm-hmm. Hey, Stranger, how you been? Oh, my God. That's exactly what they say. Hey, stranger?

Yep. Yep. Oh, I hate it. I switched my number. Did you? Yeah, I had one too many, Hey, Strangers, and I was like, you know what? I don't want to switch my number. What's your worst day story? I feel like I might have told this on my podcast years ago, but this is a true story.

There was a guy that I met when I was serving at a restaurant. He was a pilot, and he was really cute, and he asked me to go on a date. It was not Pilate. I was thinking of it. I'm going to just bite my tongue on that one. No, I actually think he's a nice guy. just have opinions um okay so he asked me to go on a date and i was like oh my gosh the hot pilot from the restaurant asked me to go on a date and he made it in the afternoon

fine fine he's a pilot i was like maybe he's got weird hours what day the week was this unlike you i don't remember it was a thursday i don't know everything it's so bad i don't know it was not a weekend it was a weird time to do a day date and he and i'm all for a gay bar but he took me to a gay bar lounge that was like barely open and he ordered potato skins. What? I too love a potato skin.

I too love a potato skin, but how weird is that combo? I'm going to take you in the day to a gay bar for lunch and order you potato skins. I also fucking hate when a guy orders me food. He spoke for you? Yes.

I hate it It's one of my biggest pet peeves When I was a hostess Like when I was like 19 And women would come in with their husbands And I'd be like Oh sure what's the name What name do you want to put down

To be on the wait list And they'd be like Um Mike And I'd be like You can tell me your name And I'd always say it I'd be like

I want to know your name Like I don't like that I mean it's sad So anyways Fuck you potato skins Anyways, it's time to confess The best part of a podcast It's literally so embarrassing

Well, I embarrass myself on the regular So do you have one for us today I mean you can't come to a live off the vine show And not have a confession It's so bad It's so bad We love so bad It's so bad

But everybody put up your right hand And you say Justin we are here to support you through your embarrassing shit and we promise

to maybe Instagram it but probably not and we love you and we love you thanks guys you're in the safe place let's go

I've got several that I could probably pull for a... Oh. Confessions? You know what you have... You guys are used to hearing my podcast where I'm like, it's just like a normal thing now to talk about shit in your pants. But like for people like Justin's like, I got a few in the tank here.

Yeah. So I tried to pick one that would be fitting here. Okay. So obviously, you know, the whole facial expression. eyebrows the whole thing i get it all right the eyebrows always the eyebrows i thought i'd tell you as an embarrassing eyebrow story perfect yeah this better be bad because like how bad can an eyebrow story be i think it's bad i don't know happy ending eyebrows this is no i was probably about 11 at the time so no this is like this is like this is like

Circa, 2007, 2008. I'm in middle school. And, and, like, people used to, like, make fun of how thick my eyebrows were, right? Literally, literally. So, like, in middle school, they're like, like, thick-ass eyebrows. And so... Cut deep. You know, eventually it got to me.

And I was like, you know what? Enough of this shit. Yeah. So as a seventh grader does... Oh, no. You overtweezed. I go up to the bathroom. Uh-oh.

I find my dad's clippers. Guys, literally, bathwater running. And I'm like, enough of this shit. And I tried to go light. I thought I was going to go light. I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to thin these things out. Oh, no. Oh, no.

When I tell you guys, I took half my eyebrows off. On each side, they were pencil thin. Do you have a photo? I could probably find, I could probably find, I could probably find out. We got to post it on our... I got to go in the archives. So I cut them down and I looked at the mirror. I was like, holy shit.

I said, who is this? Who is? They were pencil thin, right? The arch was on point, though. The archer's on point. Stap in there. Beck at me. When will my reflection show who I am inside?

That's what you say Correct Of course I Yes Yes So I looked at myself And I was like This shower can only last

But so long I gotta face my parents Like this is So I go downstairs And my mom was like What? She does she

Excuse me And I was like I tried to play it off I was like what? I was like what My eyebrows are this thin I'm like what mom she said what did you do

so what did you mean what did I do what did you do I said I just try to clean them up a little bit I don't know and the worst I went I had to go to school right I was like how long does it take for

I grow up I brought back in forever I learned the hard way yeah when I tell you I here's here's the funny part I went back to school and people like I was so embarrassed they were looking at me they were like

hmm you look different And they couldn't put their finger. I was like, what you mean? And they were like, you look different. And I was like, no, I don't. And nobody could figure out. One person was like, did you shave your eyebrows?

I was saying, no, I would never. What do you mean? Stupid? For weeks, people were like, you look different. We can't figure out what it was. Those eyebrows took four. And no one could figure it out. No, they, middle schoolers.

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This is Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Okay, so we all know that Justin's really good at acting things out, facial expressions. Like, I think I'll be able to tell what he's trying to tell me. I haven't seen these yet, okay? Cleo came up with them, so I have a no idea. And I'm very excited. No, this isn't it, this isn't it? Oh, just kidding.

Sorry, guys. You're like me. Cleo was like, I wouldn't number the pages for you tonight. I was like, there's four. Can I really not the track of fucking four? Oh, there, there. See, she was really making sure I didn't see them. Okay, here we go.

Sharrades, let's do it. You guys, feel free to help me on this. Okay. Some of these are wild, so use your imagination. Okay, use your imagination. Here we go. These are wild. Okay.

I can only imagine. My friends backstage are going to judge me for these, but. Herb and Tommy. Anybody remember them from the Bachelorette? Herb and Tommy, my hometown guys. Yeah, they're the hometown dates. My guys. Okay.

Okay. All right, so here's the first one. Okay. The H is hard. Hurt. Where's herb? Where's herb? I don't know.

Sage. Parsley, come on here. Okay. All right. Yeah, I'm ready. Here's the first one. Okay. This is wild.

I can't believe I'm going to act this out. Okay. All right. Well, it's for me. Okay. All right. I'm in a tropical rainforest. Okay.

Yeah, I can't do that. You're right. I'm in Baltimore. Okay. Picking apples. Picking bananas. Banana. Biting, peeling a banana.

Eating a banana. Biting a banana with your teeth Peeling a banana with your teeth Ding ding ding One for one Okay Okay Okay

Number two Okay Stretching Ballet dancing Yeah I couldn't even get into my routine Well because I was about to go crazy with the toes

I mean do it I did ballet I did ballet my whole life I knew your foot was up on the bar And you were stretching Oh, a bit of an iris jig, if you will. Oh, oh, great. Did you see the fucking height?

Wow, the height that you got on that jette was impeccable. Ten out of ten, and I'm a tough judge like Carrie Ann Ann Annab. Let them know. Let them know. You're crystal ball winner. Winner. Not third, not second. You're winner.

Oh, my God. Come on. Dude, I love you guys so much. Oh, I love you guys so much. Again, again. Really quick, really quick. All right, we'll do a couple more. This guy's not having it right here.

Blue shirt. I saw. You're having fun. You're smiling. You know what I'm going to guess your name? It's probably fucking Chad. I'm just kidding. Mark.

Okay, AJ. I wouldn't have guessed that. AJ, okay, are you having a good time? Oh, don't lie. He went like this. Yeah, yeah. I love you. Are you AJ's girlfriend, wife, fiance?

She said, look at the ring. Six years. Congratulations. Two babies? You know what? I take it back, AJ. I like you. I like you, AJ.

You have two babies at home, and you're still making a date night with all of us here. Yes. I want to sex you up. That got weird. She wants to sex you up. Hey, hey. She wants to sex you up. Hey, hey, hey.

Give it to him. Yes. Oh. Oh, uh-huh, uh-huh, yes. What's your name? Aw, that's nice. What's your name? Chelsea?

Yeah, Chelsea and AJ. They are going to have such good sex tonight. They're going to make baby number three. She's like, no, no, no. Well, if you do, you have to name it, Caitlin. Okay, give me another charade. This is getting out of hand. All right.

We'll start easy, then we'll get into some more weird ones. Okay. All right. This one, easy. Okay. Oh, um, milking a cow. That was very sensual. Okay.

Okay. I don't want to do this one. I don't want to do this one. Do it! Do it! Yeah? Blow job. Close. Oh.

A hand job. Eating a banana hot dog. Oh, oh, Jesus. A blow job. That's a blow job. Licking the tip. Just the tip.

What the fuck? Oh, licking an ice cream cone. Licking a lollipop. Thank God. Jesus. Murphy. You just made all the single girls in here very uncomfortable Licking your lips

Licking salt off your lips What? Milk mustache Thank you Oh that was what I would have never guessed that I was like why are you making everything so sexual I just do what I'm told Just a fucking milk mustache bro

All right um Pooping Sitting on the toilet squatty potty basketball but giving birth to a basketball a workout ball a workout ball a boating ball a squats on a ball what that was it bouncing on a workout ball oh that was really good okay that was as close as i was going to get squats on a workout ball okay riding a horse was I right straddling a horse save a horse ride a cowboy

I've never been to D.C. before okay I drove through once I drove through once and I was like I don't know what the crowd's going to be like I don't know you guys were my favorite fucking crowd thank you so much Justin for being my guest tonight

We love you. You're amazing. We've got a lot of single girls who are going to be sliding into your DMs tonight. Thanks for listening, Vino's. I'm Justin Glaze, and your session is now ending. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Tune in to hear new minisodes every Thursday, and check out new full-length episodes every Tuesday, exclusively on Podcast 1.com,

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