Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Brittainy Taylor Pt 2

Episode Date: November 7, 2019

Today, Kaitlyn and Brittainy finish their conversation from last episode. Brittainy gives both a more heartfelt confession along with another rather revealing one. They answer questions from ...fans of Very Cavallari. Brittainy talks about the legacy she wants to leave and they mention their book club that turned into just a club. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:31 thought about it that way oh yes tell me more I've been more involved now in emotional trauma I've heard about this so like I like dive deep into it because like now you know with the whole breakup and all it's like I I know that I'm fully responsible for it because I took the measure and I canceled it I was like not going to do it you know but saying that I was like why do I feel there are moments where I feel false guilt yeah I had a nightmare last night I woke up in the middle of the night
Starting point is 00:02:02 like crying my eyes out and it's it I was like where is this coming from so I started you know really really diving deep on like the four agreements and trying to really learn to like be impeccable with your word not taking anything personally but then it goes even further and I've been researching like just emotional trauma
Starting point is 00:02:17 and like okay why is this affecting me why am I taking such like why am I giving it such power you know why do I feel guilty And really it comes down to something that had happened in either like a past relationship or a childhood, whatever. And it can be something as simple of being like, oh, well, that makes sense. OK, cool. I'm over right now. Well, I've said this before on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I don't know if people remember. But I actually could not get over my ex before the last one. His name was Brett. I couldn't. I couldn't get over it for so long. And I just, I never got real closure from it. And I just, it really, like, weighed on me every, I would dream about him at least five times a week, knowing like I didn't want to be with him and I knew it was wrong, but like I just couldn't get over it. My therapist made us sit in a chair, like, like, say we are sitting across from each other like this.
Starting point is 00:03:07 She put an empty chair across from me. I had to have a fake conversation pretending he was listening. And I started laughing. And she was like, no, you have to take this seriously. And so I had a conversation with him. Then I had to switch and I had to sit in his chair and pretend I was him and respond the way I think he would respond. And I had a full-blown 30-minute conversation with myself switching chairs and something shifted in my brain and I stopped it. The dreams never came back.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I felt closure. I got over it. I like accepted what it was. It was so crazy how you can shift things in your brain like that just with like. But the key thing is that you were saying in the voice that you believed he would say. And right now, in my, in my situation where I think I'm not really over it yet is because I'm still thinking his responses are what I would say. Yeah. I haven't learned, you know, and that's where you guys have come in, like the girl gang.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Like it's really like when you guys are, I hope you're seeing it right now. Like his like, you know, I'm like, I heard he's not doing well or whatever. And they're like, and you guys are like, no, no, no, no. Yeah. You heard he's not doing well. He's just doing the same things he's always been doing when he was with you. And so, but what you said, like really triggers me because I, I literally, I think about, I, I think about. you know how he feels or whatever he's going through but but in the voice of me
Starting point is 00:04:23 not in his voice and so maybe you should try that even just by yourself in your it's it is powerful and it's it seems so silly in the time but then you get into it and then you're like did you speak in his like voice did you have like his accent i was like no i don't know what that was he's super comedian so it's like a no but it's just fascinating and you know it's so so interesting to me as well is I still have okay my first boyfriend Ryan he was like my high school sweetheart he was like we were just so close for four years and he did awful things to me but he was also a very lost person but he was a good guy but he just was so lost no I shouldn't I shouldn't make excuses for him he's a good guy now yeah but he was so lost back then I've had those oh my he would do
Starting point is 00:05:14 things where I just would shake being so upset and look at him and he would laugh at me and I would shake and look at him and be like and he'd have strippers signatures on his chest and he would like be off a three day bender and we were young and I would just be crying shaking looking at him and he'd laugh at me and I would pinch his arm like what's wrong with you why are you like why are you laughing at me I'm hurting so badly and I still have those nightmares 34 years old I still have nightmares that each boyfriend that I have it's still Ryan's face but it's that guy oh my God and they're laughing at me while I'm crying and I'm just angry so I'm having a dream expert on my podcast soon
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Starting point is 00:08:07 Let's start with serious. We can end on a lighter note. Okay. Um, I, I don't even know if this is going to sound bad. Okay. I have, uh, not talked about a certain human being in my life, um, very frequently. And I think, well, I'm actually really scared.
Starting point is 00:08:34 to say about it. What? There is a person in my life that I don't talk about ever, and I never bring up. And it's because I have this really bad relationship with him. And I think it's a lot of causes of my relationship issues now. And that would be my father. Okay. So I met my dad when I was 17 years old.
Starting point is 00:08:53 You met him when you were 17? I found him through a real estate agency. What? Yeah. And when I met my dad, I didn't know him as a child. I knew him as a woman. Okay. And it caused a lot of issues, and it's really, really been, as a confession, it has really been the catalyst in how my relationships act.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Okay. So I think that one of the things that I'm working through and what most people I think, I'm hoping they deal with grace when they hear, when they see the season, is that I tend to date men on potential because my father was a potential, right? I didn't know him and I met him. And I was like, oh, God, you know, like, he's going to be this great dad and everything's going to be really awesome. And it turned about, it turned out to be just shit. Yeah. And so I always say, like, he painted rainbows with no colors. And so I, yeah, I, you know, I think people think that I have it all together.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Uh-huh. And I come from a really great family life. But I think one of the confessions that I want to throw out there is I come from an extremely broken home. And so I think that's where a lot of my emotions come from. Uh-huh. And I think most people. people don't get to talk about it a lot, you know, growing up with a single mother and living in, you know, when they see people on TV, they think like, man, they like, they, like, they live. Yeah, they, they have a ton of money. And they live in these really great lives and, like, whatever. And I was like, I live in the same house that my, my grandparents grew my, my mom and her three sisters in. And, you know, I got suspended from high school because I used to get into a ton of fights. And I really worked my way up. And so I, I, I. I just wanted to put it out there that, like, you know, there's something to be said about getting to where I am, but not necessarily having the relationship and looking for that and other men.
Starting point is 00:10:43 That's so interesting. And thank you for sharing that because I think people do, you know, it's a lot of confessions come in and it's funny and we can get to that too. But I actually really appreciate you taking that angle because I think it's important for people to, I mean, there's so many people out there that can listen to that and be like, oh my gosh, I felt like I was the only one. or people like people don't realize or maybe they do at some point in their lives how much their relationship with their parents or their parents' relationship or how they're raised or how they grew up impacts their relationships moving forward in life and what you look for in somebody and what you're like kind of lacking from them you look for in somebody else or or what they taught you know like you really pick up a lot from that when we talked about emotional trauma earlier
Starting point is 00:11:27 I think one of the things that really has made me feel like I wanted to talk about or I want to open up about it more often is because I think like, you know, when people see you angry or they see a certain side of you, they just assume like you're just an angry human being or whatever it is. And they just don't know that there are existential circumstances that have gotten you to that place. And I think I have. Nobody ever thinks about it, especially on TV. Like I all I ever mentioned, I imagined of it as a little girl, right?
Starting point is 00:11:55 It's like my dad taking my daddy daughter dance and being there like for my graduation and like, and he just never showed up. Yeah. You know, and so I think as I'm navigating as a woman in my 30s, to look for a man that doesn't just necessarily fill the shoes that my father didn't. Right. It has been one of the things that I've been struggling because I need to stop wanting to be a man to be proud of me and just have pride.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yes. I love that you're, that's very big of you to, one, talk about that and two, to realize that. A lot of people don't realize. You know, they can't dig that deep to see those problems. And so I think that's so important, especially for you right now, going through that kind of breakup after four years with somebody to really dig deep into who you are and what you need and why you need certain things because you can't, nobody will ever fill a void. You know, you have to fill that yourself and do what makes you happy and then have somebody that just like adds value to your life instead of filling something. that you've been missing someone was a as a call it's like compliment versus supplement it's like
Starting point is 00:13:06 i want i want to be whole and then i want someone to match my wholeness i don't want someone to be the constant like codependent need to be fulfilled right i think that's i mean again in in so many like where you were in your relationship with yourself four years ago when you met john was probably so different than your relationship with yourself right now so you have to look at also that relationship as a blessing and not a waste of time because it's taught you so much about who you are and your strengths and it has made you dig into into what you're looking for in somebody and why. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:44 So we can we can say f*** them, but we can also thank him. Yeah. Yeah. Bye. Thanks. Thanks. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But I think that's so great. I think that's so, I think that's going to do so, it's going to do big things for you to even acknowledge that. and to be aware of that going into another relationship, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's huge. I just think like now that people like see me on a different, you know, light and on the show, I think people don't get to see, you know, necessarily where people come from or what their,
Starting point is 00:14:12 what their upbringing was. And so for me, as a confession, I was just like, look, man, like, we all, we're all cut from very similar cloth. Like, not all of us come from a full household. And no, I would love that. Right. You know, I would love to have. And that, you know, kind of segues into the whole marriage thing that has been an issue
Starting point is 00:14:27 my whole life is like, at what point do I stop? running from something because I'm scared that it will leave me and you know what's crazy is I've talked about this on the podcast before that I had a really great um childhood and my parents had a good relationship but they were more friends and then they divorced when I was 18 and even though I had this upbringing of we had such healthy conversations we'd have family meetings my parents would talk about their feelings we'd read books on feelings we would do all these things to, you know, to just be there for each other in hard times and just really embrace healthy relationships, but they still divorced.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And I still have that fear every relationship that I'm in that someone's going to leave me because my parents fell out of love. Yeah. And they're still good friends to this day. And I still, you know, so it's like there's so many extremes in different situations, but we still all have these fears and insecurities inside of us. and that's just, everybody is raised and grew up differently. But like you said, we're all cut from the same cloth.
Starting point is 00:15:34 We all have insecurities. We all have fears. And it's just about talking about it. It's, again, communication. It's all about that. And it's so nice to be able to talk to somebody, like, if you start dating this, you know, like talking to that person and saying, I didn't realize this before, but now I've realized that this is what happened growing up. This is what I don't want to look for in a person. Like, this is, like, just being so straightforward with somebody is going to be the
Starting point is 00:16:03 healthiest thing you can do for your happiness and for the relationship. Or just like strangers on the street that watch the show, you know? I think there's, it took me a while for a second night. I think I've said it on a different podcast. It was like, I don't really think I'm anything special. But it was like, it's more just like, not that, not that that's the wrong word. It's more of just like, man, I'm, I'm in the shit just like you, you know? And I think that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 We're all something special. Yeah. We're all something special. Like, like, thank you so much for, like, thank you so much. like you mean, but like, my dad didn't love me either. Right. And there are so, you know what, there are so many people out there who either mom or dad or some sort of toxic relationship in their life has led them into what they believe they quote unquote deserve from another relationship, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Like, that's just, again, like I couldn't have asked for a better childhood and I still have those fears. It's just, there's probably more extreme, you know, and I have other insecurities that stem from way, you know, other deeper things. But that's, it's just so, I'm just so thankful that you shared that. Thanks, man. Yeah. And I do think people need to even Bachelor, Bachelor at Bachelor in Paradise, any kind of reality show, you need to watch these shows with compassion and realize that, like, you don't know where these people came from. And you don't know what their life was to get to this point. And I understand that TV wouldn't succeed without judgy f***es out there that are still going to, you know, it's going to create ratings and people tuning in. But just have some compassion on the internet. Like, good God. Okay. Now, Tell us a different, your funny one. Well, I guess it's not really even funny. It's not funny. It's just like, I, um, I like to be naked all the time.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Oh, great. I think I'm a nudist. I realize this today when I was thinking about a confession and I was like, what about, you know, blah, blah, blah. I'm like doing my hair. Yeah. And then like literally my windows are wide open. And I remember my ex used to yell at me and be like, buddy, the windows are open.
Starting point is 00:17:50 People are going to see you. And I was like, whatever. Like, like tits are tits or tits. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. not tits and if I had your body I would want to be naked all the time but I have a problem with clothing like it literally drags me that's what takes me so long is like I don't want to put clothes on I don't have that problem but I used to suit when I was little my mom told me all the time I was like a nudist when I was little but good for you for but I but you're kind of um how do you
Starting point is 00:18:15 describe yourself yeah no no not judgy yeah how would you describe because I don't have that like I don't how did I describe myself yeah uh like who is is brittany god you're a free spirit you are i think like i'm just like a rainbow kid yeah i just like i just like i just like i just like i'm definitely like like super earthy like if i could live in like on a beach with like a jungle in the background and like just be naked yeah i'd be happy for the rest of my life yeah drinking coconut sipping some wine yeah smoking some weed yeah that's a different confession for a different time but no i'm so man she said it pro pot but here we go I've talked about getting high
Starting point is 00:18:55 on this podcast before I've gotten so high and jumped on a plane once and I was not okay but yeah, no. Oh, I had an edible in Seattle Oh, edibles are different. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:04 That's a whole other different like Oh, it is? It's a body high versus the mind. Oh. Yeah. Wait, I felt pretty high in the mind. It's different? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:21:02 things to do is because i don't like cutting off a conversation and i feel like when we go like it's just it's important to keep going i don't like cutting it off and so for me i'm like well we can make this a two part podcast where it's part on tuesday and then the other half is on grape therapy on thursday wow yeah because it's it's nice it's a good that's when you know it's a good conversation um okay do you ever wait i have a question for you though okay do you ever have like bad conversations don't you don't have to tell me who but like do you ever have like once i like fall flat or you're like i'm so excited for this and then they like turn out to be like a boob only two oh only two out of like a lot of like you would have been long gone by now
Starting point is 00:21:41 you're like well that was great have a great day yeah we're like 25 minutes in like the date you know what this is actually not working out imagine you said it to me on the podcast you're like I'm really uncomfortable. What if somebody did that? I haven't even thought about that way. What if somebody rejected your podcast? I like, I came in because of a...
Starting point is 00:21:58 I just wouldn't air it. I'd be like, never happened. No, I will never forget. Oh, funny. I forgot to record the whole thing. Kane Brown, country singer. He's, I mean, he's so shy. And he doesn't talk a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And I was just trying to get stuff out of him. And he was like, yep. No. Yeah. And it was on the day that my... That's how my... That was the day that my... That was the day
Starting point is 00:22:21 that the breakup announcement came out on like people and so I was in a really bad place and my dad was there and I wanted to make my dad proud and he was like sitting there watching me interview him and after I was like oh my god dad that was so hard he goes you did so great I'm like no that was it was supposed to be 45 minutes but it was only 20 and so it was tough but he's so sweet and he didn't mean to you know it's not like he was being a jerk he's just he's just a quiet to himself guy and so it was funny because then jason went saw him somewhere jason's like oh my girlfriend um interviewed you and he was like like oh could you just tell her like I'm sorry I was having an off day and I'm like totally get it you know like that's nice though we get it um okay so a couple of questions oh my gosh where did these come from Instagram we what wait what um jade pits wants to know how did y'all meet and is she still stone so well no we've established that no we've established that but how we oh you know what's funny is um I saw you and Kristen
Starting point is 00:23:21 in the airport one time yeah i saw you too yeah yeah i walked around i was like i think that's keel bristow yeah but we were you were you were in line at a bagel shop yes with christin and i was right behind you guys and you guys turned around and you like went to leave the line because it was taking too long and you're like oh hey that's christie calais yeah i sure or maybe you got your food in one no i was being boogey about the water i think i have a smart water i'm a water snob no it wasn't smart water like i know that bagel shop it's smart water okay maybe not it's smart water Okay. I'm a huge water snob. Like, if there's a Desani, I'm not doing it. Desani's gross. I would rather drink piss. No. I swear to God. I'd rather you pee and I'll drink it. I can't do Desani. Like I, okay, if you did a water, like a water. You can't be picky about what you drink and then say you'll drink piss. You just can't. Okay, maybe I won't, but I'm just putting into the extreme because of being dramatic.
Starting point is 00:24:11 You're just like letting us know how much you hate DeSani water. Well, I just don't like any purified water. Oh, so what's your favorite bottle of water? It has to be spring water. Yeah. It has to be natural. How do you feel about Voss? I like Voss. Me too. I like Voss. Okay. Interesting. But that's how... I think I drank a lot of it when I say it at your house. Yeah. I have so much. Also, I forgot about taking the recycling out. Sorry about that. Oh, that's okay. Because I remember the trash thing. Yeah, but it's fine because it's not like... I didn't pull the recycling. Like, I was never in your garage. Yeah. And that's... It's not like it added up. It was fine. We just took it out the next time. It was totally fine.
Starting point is 00:24:44 But anyways, then how we really met is I started following after that because I followed Kristen and And she said, if you don't know this girl, you will soon. And I was like, and I went, hey, that's, we're going to Seattle. Yeah. And I went, hey, that's the girl that I saw in the airport. And so I followed you. And then I was like, oh, I should have her on the podcast. And so I really?
Starting point is 00:25:02 You thought I was that interesting? Yeah. Because you rescued two dogs when I first followed you. Oh, yeah. And I was like, ooh, this girl, I like her. M. Duff 777 says, how real is very cavalry. Is most of the drama staged? No.
Starting point is 00:25:17 God, I wish it was. I know. be so amazing if it was if I could just like act and get my like sag after a no it is not say it's I think a thing of people don't understand about reality TV is that obviously like we're not like right right you're not filmed 24 seven so life happens outside of being filmed right right and sometimes you have to catch up on that life that's true so we have to make things you have to make the storyline make sense with what actually is going on in your life right so it's organic in the sense that the drama is real and the conversations are real but some
Starting point is 00:25:48 Sometimes, you know, you do like, you're like, okay, well, I'm not, I'm not filming today. Right. So. I have a funny one. You're going to like it. Oh, God. Um, K-Ling. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Kling L-T-K says, my husband and I watch Ferry Cavaleri and we want to know what made Brittany want to stay with her ex super grump for so long. Oh, God. You don't have that. You know what? I'll answer it. I'll answer it.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Here. I don't. I fall in love with souls. You know, I actually, like, this is going to sound weird. I don't even have a type. Like, if you looked at all my boyfriends, like, none of them, and even girlfriend, like, none of them had, like, similarities that I just love people. And I think that I fall in love with people's passion.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And John had a huge passion for music. When I first met him, I had never met anybody in their life that could wake up in the middle of the night and be like, babe, babe, you got to hear this look. And he'd be like, I can't even do it because I can't carry a tune. He was just passionate. But he would, but just the fact, the pure fact that like in his brain, he could hear something that I just couldn't even imagine creating, you know? It's like someone creating, it's like me sitting next to Picasso while I'm creating
Starting point is 00:27:06 stick figures. You're like, how the fuck are you doing that? And so I think, you know, John in his own right, regardless of our relationship, John is really a phenomenal human in his passion and in what he does. And truly, when he is not being a single child and only thinking about himself, he actually really does, he does have a big heart. Yeah. And I've watched him care about other people and been so, so charitable.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And more so I think I stayed because I know that in his heart of hearts, John tried to love me as much as he could. And I know he's got his fault and I'm probably giving him a little grace here. But in his own. Right. You know him better than a lot of people, so you're allowed. My mother actually told John this, that Britney takes diesel fuel and you only have unleaded. Whoa. Yeah. That just made so much sense to me.
Starting point is 00:28:03 So no matter how much gas you're going to pump into my engine, I was never going to run. Yeah. Because it just, I took a different kind of love than he could give me. And even if he wanted to change and be what I wanted, it was just never going to work. Hey, that makes so much sense to me. That you just spoke to me. that just made so much sense to me about a past relationship that we all know what I'm talking about. That is so, and it doesn't mean that that's, you know, that will work for somebody else.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Yeah, somebody else is going to, somebody else is going to love that. Jason gives me the diesel. Yeah. He gives me the D. That's what I need. I need the D. Yeah. We need the D.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Big Dee. Big diesel energy. Yes. Oh, my God. Oh, you know what I love is when I love is when I'm going to. go into the DMs and I look at like what people are asking and then I see what they sent me before and I'm like, ooh, this girl sent me a really cute picture of a sweater that I want to get. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Chelsea patron says, what's it really like working for Kristen Cavalry? Oh, why do people ask me that? Like, it's like I'm given a staged answer. It's great. I mean, the thing is, it's like people don't really understand that like you're friends with her. It's not like, you know. And at the end of the day, I say, I'm like, oh, she's my mentor and people are like, oh, okay you're just like eating her ass or whatever i'm like no no no no like you don't understand
Starting point is 00:29:21 she's not she is a no bullshit person and we have gone through the ringer of like the you know the business and and and i mean you can attest to it too being on a certain level of fame you don't trust people and she's been through it she's been through it with friends she's been through it with family she's been whatever in her own life and her own right she's has whatever she's been she's been famous since she was 17 years old so when you feel trust in love from someone who is very very hard to get it from you're like oh god i'll do any i'll run through a fucking wall like she's like she really like when she cares she cares and it feels so great yeah but like i i mean like okay does it does sometimes it suck yeah like yeah like when the when shipping was like screwing up and we
Starting point is 00:30:03 couldn't figure it out and like you know i wasn't i couldn't work more than 70 hours and we couldn't get things in and you know she's doing 12 million things and the business is going and having its own issues yes there are moments that it sucks of course in a sense of like because it would be weird if it all went smooth. Yeah. Just let's just know how things work. But I never once turn around and like, man, I regret working for her. Totally.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That I am, I truly am in all of that woman and I love her to death. And I've heard, I mean, so many people that I know know her. And I have heard nothing but really amazing things about her. Is she straight to the point? Sure. So you don't want to fuck with her. Yeah. You know, like, if you get on the wrong side, it's not good.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah. But saying that, it's like when someone like that, but you've done something. You've done something. They invest in you so hard. Yeah. And she really has invested in me. Yeah. And I love that. I've gotten four raises and three times.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I think it's like three or four title changes. Like, you know? Because you proved yourself. But at the end of the day, too, if I wanted to call her, I called her about Don the whole time. I thought her about my, you know, I was like, I got to moving in. And she, yeah. She offered me her house.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I'm homeless. She's like, if you need to stay at my place, you can. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And she means it. I get that. I like, you know, and I totally, I'm on a whole other level than her like 10 million steps below where she's been in this since like you said 17 years old i can't imagine and i do totally understand that when you when somebody proves themselves to you and you trust them you you do let them in and you like almost have a different level of appreciation for relationships when you get to that point like you're like oh my god i trust you and i'm going to let you in and i don't let many people in you know i mean saying that though she is an a personality and she's can be hard
Starting point is 00:31:43 but that's just how it is. And that's why her business is successful. Right. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick pause. Let me tell you about an app that you can use to sell stuff. Sounds pretty cool, right?
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Starting point is 00:33:04 She'll be doing interviews with fun guests and opening up about relationships, drama, rumors, even some exclusives on her life that you won't get anywhere else. Nothing is off limits when it comes to Trish's world, so don't miss the dish with Trish every week on Apple Podcasts and Podcasts 1. You're listening to Off the Vine Race Therapy. This one I really like, and I always struggle with the names. God. Oh, this person has sent such nice messages to me. Let's see what their real name is.
Starting point is 00:33:37 God, I hate Butchering People's names. Bage, maybe. Yeah, you tell me. me yeah yeah all right i'm going to read i'm going to spell it it's b e j e beja beja beja beja like is that yeah like asia like beja and i think it says dash turkish so is she Turkish maybe or is that her love i don't know either way we like who you are she said brittney is super inspiring how does she have the confidence to be so honest and open and adventurous and share it all I love that because I have been getting so many DMs lately from people that have said those exact words.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And it makes me really feel. I actually get a little emotional. You should because it's, I mean. Because I don't know what's inspiring. I think that, I think that. Vulnerability is inspiring. I think it makes me feel, it makes me want, again, run through a wall when people say things like that in the best way possible because I think that I struggled. in the very first season
Starting point is 00:34:42 I was not mentally equipped to be on a reality show and I knew that and I wanted to badly to prove again back to daddy issues I wanted so badly again to prove that like
Starting point is 00:34:52 I was worth it that I was smart enough that was good enough and that was like I could be interesting and like you know I even dyed my hair blonde for the beginning
Starting point is 00:34:58 and then I realized that the reason why I was cast it was because or the reason why I'm here or the reason why she hired me the reason why I'm in Nashville is because I made that decision on my own
Starting point is 00:35:10 Oh, I love that. Brittany, yes. So I think that, I thankfully it's inspiring, but I don't know, like, I don't know how else to be. Like, I think that, um, that's just who, you're just being yourself. I grew up in a family that was very, uh, non-dungemental. Like my grandfather would be like, you know, whatever bed you make you sleep in. And like, you want to, you want to be like the star of the world, do this. And if you want to be a doctor, do this.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And if you want to date this guy, do that. And there was never like any restrictions on who I could be or how. I could be it. And I think that's made me grow an appreciation for I want everybody to be that way. And I remember meeting this woman at a gas station the other day. And she was like, oh, you know, we just have, I have random conversations of strangers all the time. I don't know why. I love that. But she was saying something. And she was like, oh, I'm on my way to do this. And I was just hanging out with this person. And she was like, oh, she's like, you seem like you have a really great life. And I was like, you know what? I do. I do. Because I, like, I really feel like I'm in a good place. And she's like, how do I get there? Because I feel stuck. I tell me your secrets. I go, you're never stuck. Yeah. You're never, you're never stuck. I don't care if you say that you have $50,000 in debt.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Everybody's got debt. Everybody's got bills. Everybody's got problems. Everybody's got, it's a mindset. And if you wanted, I've moved four cities from Philly, New York, St. Thomas, Miami, Nashville. Five. I was going to say that's five, but I'm not going to count.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Well, New York doesn't really count as a couple months. But I never turned around and was like, man, like if I leave this place, you know, like, then like, you know, this will happen and whatever. I think there was always a part of me that was like, if I want to do it, I've got to do it. And good, bad, ugly, indifferent. I never thought in my brain that, like, I was ever stuck. I think stuck is a mindset. It is. You're right.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And that's the same thing that goes in that relationship was like, I felt stuck for a second. I go, why do I feel stuck? Oh, because I'm stucking myself. I'm sticking myself. I'm unhappy. I'm unhappy. I know I'm unhappy. Get the fuck out. It's your choice. Yeah. Yeah. You know? So to answer the question in a really weird term, thank you for calling me inspiring. But I think I just live my truth. And there's no other way else to live, but just be like authentically you.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And you're going to make mistakes and you're going to have regret and you're going to whatever. But at the end of the day, like no one else gets to tell your story about you. I actually really like that you said that nobody's stuck. That stuck is a mindset because you're, You're right. Yeah. I mean, you can feel stuck, but you're not. You know what I mean? It's a feeling.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah. I mean, like, there's a, you know, my career changed last time. I'm like, if I don't get this job and I go for this show and I leave now, I'm not going to be able to afford a rent. Yeah. And some people are risk takers and that works for some people and some people aren't, but you're, you're never stuck. Never stuck. I like that. That was really.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Now I'm inspired. Okay. Last question. Says the person has like three businesses. says I can still get inspired page Marie 017 says
Starting point is 00:38:16 I love Brittany I would love to know where she sees herself in 13 years which is very specific also kind of daunting 13 is that like an unlucky number right maybe she's just
Starting point is 00:38:26 you know 13 years glass half full kind to get all over here she wants to know 13 years would make me 43 okay well I would hope
Starting point is 00:38:35 that I would hope that I am on, I'm at a point in my life where I can take care of myself and the people around me. And I want to be able to, I want to be able to do something really legendary by the time I'm 43. Okay. Now, I'm going to follow up the question because Jason always wants to know, what do you want your legacy to be? like what do you want people to know you for oh i want people to know me for being a fighter yeah you know i want people to know that um when the chips are down like there's going to be i'm not i'm not going to go down without a fight i'm not going to figure
Starting point is 00:39:24 out a way to make it work um there's a friend of ours that owns the giving keys oh i'd love them i have one oh you do yeah i do what's your word oh i don't know wait love it said oh No, no. It had a B on it. It was from like five years ago when Britt was the other Bachelorette that was against me. And she worked for the giving keys and she gave me one. Oh. Yeah. That's cute. Yeah. Mine, I thought long and hard. She had this event, the woman that owns it, and she's an amazing woman. And she, we were in L.A. when they had this pop-up event that we were doing with on Common James and a bunch of other people at the Grove. And I literally took four hours thinking
Starting point is 00:40:02 about the word that I wanted and the word that it came out with was puzzle and I think that's how I always have thought about my life is like there is there's no such thing as a problem there's only opportunities right and I've always lived by the motto see it solve it own it do it so like I've got to um I want my legacy to be something that has to do with whatever I don't know I just want to help people. I think I have an affinity towards women just because, you know, I'm a young woman in it. I think I have an affinity towards not necessarily false hopes or being blissfully unaware, but always believing in the good. I believe people at their very core are born good and they're born loving and they want all of that. And that the world just corrupts them from that,
Starting point is 00:40:54 you know? So I want, when people think about me, I want them to know that I've done my best to fight for the good the good of the world I want people to be happy I want people to be I want them to believe in love I want them to believe in no borders
Starting point is 00:41:11 I don't want them to believe in I don't I think it's you know I think it's silly sometimes like when you get caught up with you know religion or science or whatever it is and you start to box people and things and places and and theories you forget that there are
Starting point is 00:41:27 millions of people in the world that think differently than you and the only thing that we can think of now like the only thing that we have is you know this idea that of what we know and that doesn't mean necessarily that it's right or wrong or indifferent it just means it's what we know and then there's an entire world out there that knows differently and so you can't go down in life without fighting for truth that is powerful thank you yeah And my favorite is when people really think about their answer and they are okay with a little bit of silence to think about it. Yeah. Did I get silent? No, I like that though. I like that you really thought about it and then said what you were really feeling instead of being like, you know, like this and a world peace. Like I like when people have a little bit of silence and think about what they're going to say. Yeah. And what you said was really meaningful. So thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I mean, one of the reasons why it happened was that someone had I had written something at some point and someone was like,
Starting point is 00:42:29 you never thought about it this way and I think you know like when you when you don't take the time to listen to someone else's truth and not necessarily change everything you think about but allow yourself to mold then you stop growing well that's a big problem in this world right now is that nobody listens to other people's opinions
Starting point is 00:42:45 without throwing shade at it you know instead of just being like I hear where you're coming from and I respect your opinion and here is mine and we can it's okay to think differently people hide behind words like professional or expert I actually there's a there's a podcast someone that someone had said like when you say you're an expert I immediately turn off yeah because
Starting point is 00:43:03 you're not nobody's an expert in everything you don't know everything there is to know about ever that's why with my wine label everyone's like oh what do you know about wine I'm like not much I just like it I think it tastes great yeah that's it I like I like enjoy this I'm gonna do what I love I'm just chasing a dream here and I want to share it with y'all don't you guys like me so why I'm going to try this people are like she probably doesn't you know how to hold a wine glass I'm like is there a certain way to hold it I just like drink in the wine oh yeah don't you have to do it like this so that you don't have you don't mess the temperature or something because the temperature affects the tannins.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I don't know. Great wine. Yeah, great wine. You know what? Read the back of that bottle right now. Great legs, full body, and the wine's not bad either. That's all I have to say. Oh, look, here we go. Our girl group is writing. I know. Everybody's going on. It's funny because our phones were both blowing up at the same time, like lighting up the same and I'm like, oh, we're on the same group chat. Also, do you realize that our group shot is the dirty bookers and we've only met about the book club once. Yeah. Can we fix that?
Starting point is 00:44:00 No. I think it's so funny. So just to end the podcast, we are in a girl gang. We call ourselves the dirty bookers because we had one night where we were like, let's start a book club. And we read one book and we talked about it for two minutes. Yeah, because we are readers. Because we're studious.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And we literally talked about the book for like two minutes and we're like, so anyways, did you see on Instagram today? I'm pretty sure the bachelor was playing or the visit. It was. Yeah. Bachelorette. Hey, let's get real for a second. Ladies, pads can be sticky and bunchy. Tampons can be super uncomfortable. P-string is real. Why haven't things changed for us? There is a better way. Meet Thinks. Thinks is a period-proof underwear that absorbs your flow
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Starting point is 00:45:26 actually has made my period a lot easier because I don't have to constantly be worrying. I use things underwear as a backup for tampons personally. So no more stressing about how everything's going down there. I know I'm good to go. To learn more about things underwear that absorbs your period, visit period better.com and use our special code vine to get $10 off your first pair. So funny. We have to do this again. This would be fun. Yeah. Because I mean, we live in the same city. We're friends. Also, I think we need to have a girl's strip. Can I just like, I'm throwing this on the podcast because I need to like hold everybody accountable for this. How? I want to go to Thailand. I wanted to go for my 30th.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Okay. I got thwarted. Okay. 31. Okay. We got to do it. I'm down. I'm always down for a good girl strip. Yeah. And our girl group is so solid. And then you can learn how to say pot tie. Well, I learned today and I'll never say fat tie in my life again. Unless I'm around Canadians. Oh my gosh. Okay. Can't wait for season three. A very cavalier. Here we go. You're on it. I was going to say you might see yours, Druley on there. You may.
Starting point is 00:46:31 The only thing I can remember doing on this show so far is eating pasta. And sitting on a mattress. And sitting on a mattress. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. It's very entertaining. I remember talking about a donut and a, what's the emoji? Eggplant emoji.
Starting point is 00:46:51 That's a good tease right there. Tune in to season three. where can people find you um instagram the uncommon james instagram the show in your subconscious what in your subconscious wait what in your subconscious oh yeah sorry i i don't know why i couldn't i was trying to be funny it didn't work you know you have to explain it three times it's not funny i'm like why am i still laughing about it it's not funny first of all i didn't hear what you said so that was the problem you're not hearing me oh thanks cailin no i'm listening i just you're Mike got muffled up. Tell everybody where they can find you. You can find me.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I don't know where you can find me. Your Instagram. I live in a corner. I'm in IT. I live in a dark corner all day long. I don't know where you can find me. Online. Oh. At Pranny Taylor. Okay. But really, but, but I got to spell it. B-R-I. C-R-I-T-I-T-I. Oh, you did it wrong. No, he didn't. AI. AI, like the technology. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:48:00 IT, AI. What? Wait. I happen to my phone right. I know that. Britain with two T's and a Y. Because my mom and originally wanted to name Britain, but my mom, my dad was like, or my parent friends were like it's a boy name.
Starting point is 00:48:16 B. R. T, T, A.I.N. Oh, yeah. I am. Right. I've only been spelling it that way for 30 years. I'm like, oh, wait. Oh, wait. You asked.
Starting point is 00:48:22 What? I'm trying to abbreviate. I don't even know I'm talking about now. Okay, at Brittany Taylor. And Uncommon James is, what's their Instagram? It's just at Uncommon James. Okay. And the show is on E.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Barry Cavalry. And when does it premiere, season three? Oh, I have no idea. No, wait, really? No, I never know any of this. I don't ask questions. I just know that we're going to be around December, January. Okay, amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:48 They usually, like around next month, they'll be able to tell you the date, but not today. Okay, well. Not today, Junya. Not today, Junya. Not today. So thank you so much for coming on. I honestly could... This has been so cool.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I feel like it's crazy because we're like Nashville in a studio, but like we're not singing. I know. It's so like 2009. This is so bad. But this is why this is the Super Bowl of podcast. Like you have to understand. Like this is not where people do that. They have like a little like recorder and her thing.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Really? Yeah. You're like literally like you, this is like a radio station for me. Well, it makes me feel very legit. Like this is prestige. Like you are like the Porsche of podcast. can you keep going I'm the Porsche podcast
Starting point is 00:49:28 and the Super Bowl of the podcast gone just kidding thank you for saying that no I'm serious I'm going to force you to come back on because I know my listeners shout out to the Vino's and they're going to love this podcast
Starting point is 00:49:39 so I will have you back on especially during the airing of everything that's about to go on can we not do watch parties but we just have to do like I get it maybe we do watch I don't know I don't understand is it like that's my problem is it like vain is it like weird
Starting point is 00:49:53 I, okay, I'll tell you what, when the Bachelor, Bachelorette was airing, I did not want to do watch parties. I wanted to watch by myself or with one close friend and I wanted to absorb everything and take it all in and understand and I wanted to respond to people on social media and I wanted to like just really be in the moment with watching it. And any time I did a watch party, you know, everyone's like, oh my God, and then you can't pay attention and you miss so many things. And then you're like, it's very overwhelming. So I think it's a little like weird, you know, you're sitting in a place by yourself. watching people watch you on TV. It's weird. That's weird, right?
Starting point is 00:50:27 It's super weird. And it'll never not be weird. So just bring the wine and we'll just watch it on the iPhone. I'll just bring wine. We'll watch. And then we're in a corner. We should do grape therapy, Cavalry.
Starting point is 00:50:38 We should we do live podcasts? That's a great idea. We should do live YouTube viewings and then like edit it so that it's we're like, you know what? You know what I'm saying? No. Okay, I'll tell you. Whitney from the Hills does it now.
Starting point is 00:50:53 with watching this newest season with her husband and it's funny. Oh, really? Yeah, I'll show you. Oh, okay. Anyway. Considering you guys are all going to be, oh, my girl gang. Yeah. We're here for you.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Thanks, man. It's going to be a wild ride. Buckle up, kids. Buckle up, kids. You're in for a wild ride. All right, let's blow this popsicle stand. Time to get drunk. It's a Saturday.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It is Saturday. And I'm already drunk, so let's do it. Your session is now ending. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine. Grave Therapy. Tune in to hear new mini-sodes every Thursday, and check out new full-length episodes every Tuesday, exclusively on podcast.com, the Podcast One app, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Who's that with OTV? Sponsors for this week's grape therapy are, feels, become a member today by going to feels.com slash fine, and you'll get 50% off your first order with free shipping.
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