Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Carly Waddell

Episode Date: April 26, 2018

Kaitlyn hangs out with fellow Bachelor alum Carly Waddell to confess their love of squatty potty. Carly shares the story of her daughter Bella's birth, and the ladies answer questions from th...e fans. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 Okay, everybody, welcome to grape therapy. Your session is now starting. Is that comforting? It was comforting. I thought so, too. I kind of felt that. Maybe it's the mood lighting in here. It's definitely the mood lighting.
Starting point is 00:01:44 You're welcome. We are podcasting from Carly and Evans' bedroom. I should have lit some candles, Caitlin. Where the magic happens. Oh, all of the magic. The magic definitely happened. This is a new place, so the magic didn't happen here. Oh, where did the magic happen?
Starting point is 00:01:58 It happened. It happened in a condo in the Gulch. Oh. Wait, I thought you made your baby on vacation. I'm wrong. I thought I made my baby in California. But then when I talked to Evan the other day, he said, nope, we made the baby in the gulch. I remember the night. And then it sparked this thing in my brain. And I actually now, I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember having that thought. No, I actually remember having the thought, I think we just made a baby. N-uh, and did you say it? No, because he would have freaked out because the next day he was like, maybe we should think about what we did last night and next time really use, like, protection. And I was like, so we didn't make a baby. It's going to be way harder than that. Yeah, but we did. You did.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And now he wouldn't take it back for the world. No way. He loves her so much. Oh, man, I just saw him on FaceTime and he, she has got him wrapped around the little thing skis. Oh, my gosh. And she does have little fingers like her mother. The tiniest, oh, is that a thing that you have small fingers? Caitlin, how do you not know this?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah, it's like they never grew. Oh, they're adorable. They're like in glove sizes, like youth medium. Can you hold it up again? Not even large. Oh, but I've never noticed that about you, but I remember you've said something about it. That's so weird.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah, I don't really. Because you're like such a tiny person and your hands are bigger than mine. That shouldn't be. I have like piano fingers, though. Oh, I could. I almost failed piano in college, one, because I didn't practice, but I can't reach an octave. You didn't fail, though? So I got an F on my final, and then I got an A in the class, which averaged to a C.
Starting point is 00:03:37 That seems like not fair, because you just weren't blessed with piano fingers. I agree. I tell that to the lady at O.U that's the head of the piano department that made me cry. But then did you just sing to her, and then she's like, oh. No, she did not care about me. I got so nervous. You had to, like, learn two pieces of music and then come in the room and, play them like in like five minutes and i got so nervous on the piano yes and then she was just
Starting point is 00:04:04 staring at me and then my fingers started shaking and started getting tears of my so not only can i not see the keys but i was shaking and she goes she was like just stop go to the next song and then i was even worse at that go to the rehearse piece i was worse at that and then you get in your own head and oh yeah and she goes she goes you just got an eff are you aware that if you fail the final you fail the class. I'll never forget. I was like, oh, my God. She sounds super chill. I hope this gets back to her. Yeah. I kind of hope so too. You ruined my life. You really did some damage, Mrs. Piano Teacher. Anyway, on topic, which we don't have. No, no topics here. This is perfect. What do you want to jump to next? I want to talk about peeing because, so I like, I get weird about
Starting point is 00:04:50 people. That's not for a peeing, though, Caitlin. I know, but I get weird about people hearing me pee. Oh, my gosh, me too. Yes. I hate it. Okay, so do you turn on the tap when you pee? Well, no. I've gotten more used to it, but I used to tell Evan to go in the other room. Okay, I just turned on the tap all the time. So when I went into your bathroom, your bathroom set up and then you have the toilet in a different room. And so I shut the door and I was like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:05:13 She's got a hair repair. I would like, I would like toot in front of you, no problem, but peeing? What? I don't know. It's a weird thing. And I was like panicking in there. But what really brought me joy was what I saw underneath the toilet. the squatty potty okay the squatty potty is this a confession or are we proud of this I mean I think it's both yeah I think it's both too because I want one okay so it's amazing
Starting point is 00:05:43 yeah tell us about the squatty potty the squatty potty um so I did all this research on like after you have a baby like you go through a lot of things oh people are super scared about their first poop So I was like, I'm going to make this poop the best it can possibly be. And because it's really, don't you get like constipated and it like is hard and I have a hard time coming out. I think everyone has your own. My problem was I had hemorrhoids like that were like the size of grapes. So I was like really scared. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So I did all this research and lots of moms said. No, yeah. And this was not. This is not supposed to be an enjoyable experience. It's supposed to be terrifying. So I went on Amazon and I bought. the Squatty Potty. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Why didn't you do an ad for Squatty Potty? You know, I can't, hello, Squatty Potty. This is, I'm reaching out to you right now. So I put it, my dad's going to hate me for saying this, but I put it in my guest bathroom because Evan and I go poop in the guest bathroom so we don't smell bar bathroom. Yeah. And my dad was staying in there with my mom when after Bell was born, he's like, this is amazing. What is this?
Starting point is 00:06:48 I was like, Dad, it's the Squatty Potty. Yeah. I was like, everybody's doing it. This is great. It's never. Yeah. He's like, okay. I was like, Dad, just take it with you because I want one that's a little taller.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Wait, have we described what a squatty potty is? The Squatty potty is like a stool that kind of like wraps around your feet. So you put your feet on top of this stool and it raises your legs up because... Which puts you in a proper squatting position to get a nice... Yes, to make it come out easier and without like pushing. Right. But there are different, like, there's also like a squatty potty that's like wood that's like fat. that's like fashionable Squatty Potty.
Starting point is 00:07:25 There's also levels like you can get one that's 10 inches. You can get one that's 14 inches. Wait, is it like the higher up? I think so because this is a confession. So on the cruise ship, my last cruise ship, you have your own like little teeny tiny bathroom. And I was like sometimes it's hard to poop. So I was like, I'm just going to put my feet on the toilet.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You subconsciously invented the squatty potty. I think maybe I did. And then maybe some, there's a camera in there. Someone saw me and was like, this is a great idea. So, yeah, I used to put my feet on the toilet while I was pooping every single time. And then I realized the Squatty Puddy Puddy exists. And you're like, oh, that's way cooler. And they send you a button with a Squatty Puddy Puddy that says I pooped today.
Starting point is 00:08:09 No-uh. Yes. What? I got to do more research on the Squatty Pottie. It's really good. I know, because I saw it in there and I'm like, wait, I've seen or heard of this before. and I sometimes like I'll give myself like an imaginary squatty potty. Just put your feet on the toilet.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah, just to see if it like does anything. But then I just don't have the patience. But I used to use, I used a box before I actually got the squatty potty. And I put my feet on a box. Oh, so you, oh. So this is like really functional for you. This is like I finally got the thing that I needed the whole time. I just had to take steps to get there.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Like how were you living your life without the squatty party? I mean, I've had, I've had poop problems. whole life. And now I don't. Wow. Now it's a lot easier. Evan's like, I can't believe you're talking about this. Oh my God. I mean, he's not here, but when he listens, he'll be. I'm like, is he going to listen? Hi, Evan. Can you like, I think. Clapby, clap, clap, clap, clap. How does it go? Oh, gosh. So it's to Cook's pest control tune. So it's clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. Oh, I was, that was good, Carly. Oh, thank you. We've worked hard on that the past too much.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You should sing Nationwide is on your side. That is, those commercials are so good. Yeah, they are, but they get, like, you just need to have a good voice. So I'm not that famous, Gailant. You don't have to be. Except they only have Brad Paisley, and they have, oh, the guy from Hamilton, and they have. Tori Kelly. Yeah, so, yeah, I'm not that famous.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But what if they needed you just for, like, a radio ad and you could just sing, Nationwide is on your side? I like that better than any other one. I actually do. That's so good. Oh, thanks, Caitlin. I'm going to get you to sing all of my ads. Why don't we harmonize?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Can we harmonize together? Do you know my game? The harmony game? Wait, is this the one that we played on Bachelor? No. No. What was that one? Where you just sing one note and then someone has to harmonize to the note and the next person has to harmonize.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So then you go like one time you go. It's kind of like that. You're like, duh. Yeah, it is kind of like that. Okay, what do you do? I make up my girlfriend Evan and Peter Hollins. They're YouTube singers, and they're on Broadway with me. And so they made up this thing, and I stole it just now.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And they'll make up, she'll be like, she'll do do ba-p-da-da-da. And then you have to do the harmony of that, and then we'll sing it all together. But we can start easy. Oh, gosh, I'm so bad at harmony. Oh, my gosh. No, that's like, then you sing this. That's why I can never be a backup singer. That's all you have to do.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Ready? One, two, three. Ba-bap-bap-da-pap. Was that harmony? That was good. Whatever that was, it was good. That's the game. Oh, I like this game.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I don't know how to harmonize to Nationwide's on your side, though. Oh, geez. You know what is really easy harmony? What? Rascal flat songs. What's a Rascal flat song? I mean, I know them, obviously, and I love them, but give me an, I'm blanking on what songs they say. Um, mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mob.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I miss May, there you're sitting on a porch drinking nice cold cherry Coke. Everything is like light. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Usually. I'm like, I don't know that one, but I... Oh, dang it. Or Godless, broken, bro. Love me straight to you.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Oh, I love that one. Yes. That was one of, that was actually my first concert with Sean. We went to Rascal Flats in Connecticut. Yeah. Kate, I'm not going to lie when I invited myself over tonight. I was like, maybe I'll, maybe I'll have too much wine and Carly can sing me to sleep like she does to Bella. Would you like me to, like, put you in a swaddle and rock you?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yes. Also, if that wasn't weird, I'd really want you to do that. I would. So last night, I had posted somewhere over the rainbow. Somewhere of the rainbow. I know, I put it on for me to go to sleep. I did, and I showed John. And this lady said, no, I don't.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Said, no. Why do you take these intimate moments with your daughter and share them? And I'm like, for Caitlin to fall asleep. Only for Caitlin. But also, I'm like, to me, yes, those are intimate moments, but I've saying my whole whole life. To me, that's just a common occurrence. We sing all day, every day, me and Bella. This is the thing. You've got to think about this, okay? First of all, your voice is a gift, and you're sharing your gift with the world. Second, people think, why are you doing this all
Starting point is 00:12:36 on Instagram? My girlfriend, Gillian Harris, who is the bachelorette. I love her. She's amazing. She also, she's amazing. Right before I went to the hospital, send me a message and it said, I'm praying for your vagina Here is a recipe for Popsicle pads Or whatever they call them And it was like Lavender, witch hazel
Starting point is 00:12:57 alavera And then you freeze them And they feel amazing Thank you Jillian You're a genius Oh she is I mean I don't have a word to describe Jillian
Starting point is 00:13:08 She is She's not human Like she's just so good at everything And funny and normal and humble and honest and raw and smart and driven like everything she's when you were over in her house oh I was so jealous her home is I wouldn't leave she was like you can just stay I'm like yeah I am I did you woke up like four months later hey Julian how's ago if you guys haven't noticed this is my thing I invite myself over to my friend's house and I don't leave but that's great because I never get out
Starting point is 00:13:40 so I'm always here I'm great company it's true I'll just make you do my podcast and then I'll That's okay. Then you get to come on mine. Ha-ha, Suggah. I would love to come on, you artist. Babes and babies. Genius idea. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah. It's really fun. It's all about moms and all about babies. And all about women. But women, like, it's just, you know, what a time to be a woman. Man, there's a lot to talk about, too. I feel like a woman. Da-da.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Da-da. Da-da. Ooh. Ooh. Good job. That was a great collaboration. We should do more duet. if that's what they're going to be like um okay get a load of this did you guys know that you spend a third
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Starting point is 00:15:42 happens to my brain. I see, and my brain works like a mom brain and I don't have a a kid so I have no excuse man it's wine brain for me what was I going to say um you know Julian what are we talking about oh crap oh no you're talking about um I'm getting it we were podcasting and she said something about um I got you off on a tangent I'm sorry oh my gosh okay maybe it will come back to me it will also on the way in tonight Caitlin dropped an entire bottle of wine in my driveway yeah that just goes to show and we're really really sad about it. What kind of day we're having? But I also lost my phone four times in the past four days for over an hour every day. But like I said, you have an excuse. Yeah, but I think that's
Starting point is 00:16:28 the house vibe now. So you come to the house and you have to make some big mistake because that's what this house does. I like pulled up and dropped a bottle of wine. I was like, I'm here. And the ground is like, thank you. You, I needed that. Okay, wait. It's stuff's coming back to me. We're talking about harmonizing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Singing. Yes. We were talking about, oh, a woman. You got it. You have it. Oh my gosh. I got it back. I got it back.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I'm so happy because that would have drove. That would have drove me nuts on the whole podcast. But also like, why don't brains do that? I asked Evan that the other day in the car. Keep that thought. By the way, don't know. I'm like, oh gosh, don't throw me off. I was talking and I said.
Starting point is 00:17:15 got it. Oh my God, Evan. I can't remember what we were just talking about. And I said, does that ever happen to you? And he said, no. No. I say, you don't ever walk in the other room. And you're like, why did I just walk in here? And he said, no. He's lying. That's a straight up lie. Nobody doesn't do that. That's what he said. I don't believe him. That's what he said. Okay. Gillian, here. Oh, here's my thought. When people, people call out other people on social media. I bet that woman spends more time watching people's stories than you do on your own story so yes so jillian someone called her out and said if you you need to spend more time with your son and so she was like wait do i and so she added up yes she has so many stories on instagram she added up out of her whole day and it was like
Starting point is 00:18:05 i mean there are only 10 second stories right so she if she had i don't do math but if she had 10 stories, that would be 10 times 10 is 100. Good job. That would be 100 seconds of her whole day was on Instagram. So she's like, actually, I'm sharing moments because, you know, like people, that's why people are following us. Yes. Because they want to see some of these moments. And you want to share that.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Like, this is a beautiful part of my life. Can I please share it with you? Because you have intimate moments with your child all day, every day. All day. So if you want to share 10 seconds with us, I think that's okay. And people love it and they feel like... I live for it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I live for it. One day someone also said to me, these are only two really bad comments that have really affected me. Only two? I don't really read them. Okay, good, good. Yeah. Especially with Bella now, it's just better to not, I think. I'm so glad you don't.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Then I'd get like really frustrated. Totally. But this lady said that I was a bad mom because I don't hold my child enough. and then they had the audacity to say my best friend jade jade is a great mother because she holds her child you don't hold your child and i was like number one don't talk about my best friend number two don't talk about my daughter what are you in my home and also i'm like my arm my left arm is so strong now because that's all i do all day like what in the world i know because Because I didn't post enough pictures of me holding her.
Starting point is 00:19:42 She said, you dress her up like a doll. You and Evan. She is a doll. She looks like a doll, you guys. And also, when you have a girl, come on, dress her up. It's fun. And you know what? You won't be able to do it in 10 years, so do it now.
Starting point is 00:19:56 No, you've got to get it out now. I have three words for her. Can you not? Can you not? Uh, can you not? That is a big can you not. Yeah, it was very weird. Evan got really mad, too.
Starting point is 00:20:11 He was like, how do you dare you bring me into this? I am terrified for having children. Like, every part of me is like, I won't be able to read anything because I will go ape shit on people. It's better not. Yeah. That's good that you don't. Yeah. I'm like trying to look at notes, but then I'm like, why am I even reading notes? Can I just throw something else?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah. We have the same phone case. We have the exact same form case. Hey, that's wild. Oh, my God. I was just looking at that. And I was like, that's totally my phone. Amazon?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yes, but I can't do the pop socket because my hands are too small. Like legit. That's so funny that your hands are too small for a pop socket. No, it does not work for me. So would you need a bigger pop socket? Yeah, I think I'd need like a giant pop socket for the people with small hands. I'm going to get one made for you. Okay, wait, what did I want to talk about next?
Starting point is 00:21:04 I don't know. Oh, yeah, no, I still want to talk about you singing on Instagram. um it's one of my favorite things and i remember when you first started doing it i was like thank the good lord you did you were so encouraging but i was like please do more of this because i was doing carols with carly yes and i honestly i just get so much joy from your voice because it's amazing well it's amazing i just i i kind of stopped singing became a job yeah and it just it started becoming one of those things that it wasn't fun for me anymore but then when I got pregnant and I was like, oh my gosh, I can sing to my baby.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah, it's like a connection thing. Yeah, maybe she'll come out and know my voice. And now like, it's, oh, you found the passion. I did, but it's like through her. Like when I sing to her, it's, it really, I told my mom, I said, I think I was put on this earth really to like sing to this child. Like, it calms her down sometimes. I bet it will.
Starting point is 00:22:06 But like, when I turn all the lights down, if I sing, never fails kiss the girl from little mermaid stop it's the it is like magic that song you do nail sebastian oh thank you i'm such creep to you i can't really i can't really do it without the accent anymore but like you see her sitting at across the way i mean it's like you have to do the accent but she i think as i start that was like the first song that i ever really said she loves it she will instantly calm down it's a life hack right there i mean it doesn't work for everybody but it works for her that's like on friends when they have to sing um baby got back yes when rachel has to sing it and then they sing it or ross they're singing it that rachel does and they realize
Starting point is 00:22:50 that it actually makes her laugh which i think it's going to be really funny and like when she's a teenager to be like oh there you see mom go away does evan sing um he evan makes up songs that don't exist like clappy clappy that but then he did he does yes but then he does like weird things like he'll be like I'm here tonight oh she just makes it up on the spot and I'm like oh god improv but she loves it see she loves music just okay so I was going to ask yes do you think she'll get the the music gene from you I think that her brothers are going to try to make her play soccer of course they well. So we'll see how, we'll just see. I'm just going to let her do her thing. Yeah, of course. But I would love for her to be, you know, be in dance and the plays and the singing.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Oh. But if she's in the soccer, it's also okay. Yep. You're just going to let her be. I'm going to let her be her be her thing. Bella does what Bella wants. She already does. But Bella the ballerina, that would be cute too. How did you come up with a name Bella? So I am obsessed with Bella from Beauty and the Beast. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, it's always been like my dream role. Yeah, like one day. I'm going to play Bell. Like, I know it, even though I'm getting old now. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:24:05 We can put it together. Let's put it out there. Yes. We can do it. We can do it. We can put a cast together. Okay. So we're putting this out there right now.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Whoever would like to direct our. We can also just both play Bell and we'll just do it like. No, no, you do Saturday. Nope. I'm not even taking that away from you. You are every night. Thank you, Caitlin. You are every night two shows on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Oh, I appreciate that. Thank you. Um, so, uh, I've always like, I have a beauty and the beast collection, which I'm going to give to us. Yeah. So, um, one day we were with Evan's friend and he was like, he said something like throwing out all these names. He's like, what about Isabella? And I was like, oh, it's like, bell. And I was like, oh my God, I love it. And what's really weird, though, is she doesn't at all seem like an Isabella to me, but she kind of does because that sounds like royalty. It does sound like royalty. And I'm like later in life, she's going to be an Isabella.
Starting point is 00:25:01 But when I look at her, I'm like, you're Bella. Yeah. So then part of me is like, should I just have named her Bella? But Isabella, I wanted something that was like, you could walk into a job interview and be like, I'm Isabella Bass. Ooh, that's a good name. It's a really good name. Or like college, they're like, graduating class, Isabella Bass. Like, it's a really good name.
Starting point is 00:25:22 That's a great name. And then Bella means beautiful. Italy is my favorite place. Evans Italian. Yes. And like, you know, you know, I had a sweatshirt that said, Chau Bella a long time ago. And just never knew. There's no other name for him.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah. I was wondering if she would get the music gene, then I'm like, what's Evans' hidden talent? He's really funny. Yeah, he is funny. He's very clever. He has grandiose ideas that always pan out to working out somehow.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah. Because he believes in them. Yes, he does. That's amazing. What is his hidden talent? I don't know. Well, it's okay. He doesn't have to have any.
Starting point is 00:25:56 He probably does. Maybe I haven't seen it yet. He's saving it for a five-year anniversary. He's like, I can also juggle all these things. Imagine. Imagine that's, you find up five years. He's an actual, like, amazing juggler. Oh, God, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm trying to think of Sean's hidden talent now. I'm like, he's really good at, um, working out. Air guitar. Air guitar. Really good at working out. Not a hidden talent. That's not hidden. The world knows.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Uh, air guitar. Wow. Air drums. Wait, have we seen this? Do you like film this? Because the world needs to see. I think I have like maybe once or twice, but he also he does really good, like he's got rhythm. He does, like, he'll tap his fingers on his Jeep when there's a song on if he really likes it.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And he's got good, like, drum skills. Oh, that's, he played, um, he was in band in school. And he's like really good at, like, the tuba. Sean was in band. Yeah. I can't even imagine that at all. I need to see, like, photos of him, like, in. was he in a high school that's major yeah that is a major like marching band
Starting point is 00:27:06 wow that's amazing yeah no he's really actually musically gifted and he tries to like pretend he's not with his voice but i'm like actually i'm like really good evan can play the guitar oh yeah really yes okay there's his talent right he was in he was in my carols with carly a few times until i got really frustrated because i don't have patience with a lot of people Carols with Carly? Not Evan. Actually, no, I was like, Evan join me. And then I was like, you're fired.
Starting point is 00:27:35 He wrote, okay? We tried. But he was doing such a good job and I just like, I just hear things in my head differently. I hear in like this far-fetched universe it doesn't exist. Yes. I get it. You totally, do you like hear things when you're writing and you're like, well, that doesn't exist in music, like, musically? Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I don't even know how to describe. my feelings sometimes to be like sometimes i just feel like what goes on in my head needs to stay there oh no i think it like needs to come out but it just never comes out appropriately right i'm like wait no that's not the beat and they're like this beat doesn't exist and i'm like oh does amaya damn it does and it works like this rhythm that is two different rhythms in the same one second does work yeah that's i can remember this guy i would die if this got back to him um it's not a bad thing but his name is Josh Beamish and he was... I would die if this,
Starting point is 00:28:27 go back to him, Josh Beamish. I would absolutely die if I got back to him, Josh Beamish, his at on Instagram is... Oh, God. I just mean because I'm like, probably going to sing his praises right now and I'm like embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But he is like the most incredible dancer and I used to look up to him as a dancer like be so intimidated by him and I'd go to his classes and I'd just be like, I'd leave feeling like I'm not worthy. Because his count. You know, in dance, he'd be like, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Josh Beamish is one, he and a two, a three, and a four, and a five, six, and he does all these little moves. Oh, my gosh. But when he does it, it's like the most beautiful thing in the world. But when I try to do it, I just look like something's wrong. And so, anyways, Josh Beamish shorts up. That's my story. I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:29:19 All I keep thinking about is audition, dance auditions, and I'm like, stressed out thinking about that. Oh, I get so stressed out. I was telling Sean in Jamaica the other night, I was like, oh, you know, like going through auditions for dancing and I was telling him about the process. It's horrible. It's horrible. Yes. Like, I can remember because I was cheerleading for CFL, Canadian Football League.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Oh. And the audition, there was like hundreds of girls there and they're picking like 20. Oh, gosh. And if you couldn't do a chenet, jete, double piquet and defuete turns like you were out and they were just tap you on the shoulder and you're gone. Can I please audition next to you? They can watch how bad I am. That'd be like me auditioning for Bell next to you, okay? It just wouldn't work out.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Whoa, I just really pump my own time. I was there. I was like, that would be like, I can do 12 footies. 12 footes. I know what all the, I know what those dance moves are. I just can do them. I can't do them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:16 You had to be a good dancer, but auditioning is so intimidating because it's like, it's like terrible. It's basically like putting yourself all out there knowing that there's a very high possibility that they're going to tell you you are not good enough oh gosh it's like it's the worst i know like okay so i would go into musical theater auditions and it would be like okay do your you know singing or monologue whatever and i'd be like nailed it yeah and they'd be like dance audition i was like oh oh like i can't move my body i can't move my body yeah we're the opposites it's like the most stressful thing i had to sing oh canada for an auditionals and apparently
Starting point is 00:30:53 That's not an easy song to sing. Do you remember on The Bachelor, we kept making you sing that? Yeah. And then we just always started making up our own verses. We're like, oh, Canada, my native land. That's better than most people. I always find it so funny that Americans can't get past Oh, Canada. I'm like, yeah, it's in the title.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Native land. That's what I know. The native land. What's our native land? But yeah, that's on The Bachelor you guys used to, it was the Canadian Thanksgiving. And then you guys lit candles on people. pumpkin pie and sang oh Canada to me and it was really magical we sing well I'm sure yeah well you did when I I knew four words it was actually does oh count no oh okay I know three words
Starting point is 00:31:37 wait my native land okay four yeah it's not my native land it's our home and native land but okay but I was really close I had native land down and no nobody else does everybody just stops at oh Canada and I'm like I know every word do you're going to his anthem and then Sean's always like yeah because we're the greatest country in the world and I'm like oh okay I keep trying to go back to like jumping all over the map but I keep trying to go back to when we came to see you in the hospital oh my gosh I am so glad you guys came I was like I didn't know like I don't know some people want like their privacy no but I was like oh and you're like yeah come by I'm like yes like I was so happy I will never forget I
Starting point is 00:32:23 skipped in there how like i've told so many people this by the way you have this way with babies that is i know it's like in your genetic makeup or something i feel like i was meant to be a night nurse like you're meant to be meant to be your own baby you're like a baby whisperer the way you even hold babies like i was so i i i was like terrified when they gave her to me i was like i'm laying in bed, but I'm going to drop her. Yeah. You know, like, and you get in there and you just, like, held her and, like, patted her butt and just was, like, doing this quad-y, like, I don't know, whatever you were doing.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It was almost like a slight lunge, but, like, and she was totally calm and you have so much confidence with children. It's, like, unbelievable. Oh, I just, I can't explain. I feel like, I'm, I don't know if a lot of people would think that when they first meet me about being maternal, because I'm like. No, no. I'm like, why, let's get drunk?
Starting point is 00:33:22 But I'm, like, so maternal. You, a hundred percent are. I feel so comfortable with babies. I love babies. I feel like I just know what to do when I have them. You do. And I am opposite. Well.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And you love, like, all babies. Like, I love my baby. That's kind of like it. No. Is that bad? No, no, no, no. That's, um, I'm trying to think of, like, dogs or like, oh, yeah, yeah. You know, like, I'm, you know, like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I love.
Starting point is 00:33:49 My dog is being really chill right now. I'm dying. I didn't even know. He was right there. He's blending him. He's blending him with a for a blanket. And he has his arms. Like, he has belly up with his arms.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm taking a picture of this just to post tomorrow when this comes out. It's like so funny. Look at that. That's amazing. He's so funny. Okay, I'm saving that photo. But seeing Sean hold that little baby. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I mean, he seems. have got to have. But I was like, let's go home now. And you should have. Because by this time, it would have been two and a half months into a pregnancy. Probably really sick. Definitely not drinking wine. No. This podcast would suck right now. I'd be like, you would just be in my bathroom. I'd be either like snoring or puking. Or using my squatty potty. Or using or on Amazon buying eight squatty potties. I bought so many things that were unnecessary, but that was unnecessary. But probably, yeah. That's the best purchase you at. ever got. I really did. I did so much research about so many stupid things, but that was a good one.
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Starting point is 00:36:37 I really wanted to know because I feel like for myself thinking about, you know, I wouldn't be mad if I got pregnant tomorrow or thinking about having babies. in the next couple years, and for other women who are pregnant right now, I want to hear your birth story. Oh, my gosh. It's so, it's like, I mean, I just think it's really so Bella-like. Yeah, now that I know her entrance into the world. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:01 She's just, she's so in control, this little girl. Yeah. So I was actually supposed to be induced because they were a little bit worried about her birth weight because they were like, okay, well, she needs to gain weight, and I'd rather her gain wait in the real world because we don't know if she's getting it in you. I'm like, okay. So on, we're supposed to be induced on the 15th. And I slept in, you're in our room, but I slept in the guest room because I was like,
Starting point is 00:37:29 okay, well, at least I need to get sleep because I know tomorrow will be huge and then so many people are going to come by and it's just going to be a really big day. It's basically your last chance of sleep. Yeah. It's like your last for a lot. And honestly, I didn't sleep anyway. Like, I can't, I couldn't sleep in my third trimester. It was like, I was just very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Well, and how do you sleep knowing you're about to give birth? Like, it's like, you don't. It's like your first day before like school and you're like, oh my God, what's, am I going to have friends? Yeah. Yeah. A little different feeling, but yeah. Well, yes, but like, you know, the same anxiety. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:38:01 So, um, I woke up at like, we were supposed to leave it, wake up at 445, leave by five. Mm-hmm. And everything packed by the, in the car or by the door ready to go. I'm not going to lie. I set my alarm because I knew what time you were going to labor and I was like, I'm going to think about her at this time. I mean, it was like, it was a big day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So I'm laying a bed at like 3.30. I was like, whew, like that kind of feels funny. Like I was having like cramps and that wasn't normal. So I was like, that's super weird. And then I was like, are they contractions? And Jay told me about this app that she was like, you can time your contractions. And they weren't, it wasn't a timable thing. It was just like, I was having a cramp and then like maybe 20 minutes later I'd have a cramp.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I was like, okay, this isn't contractions. And then so at like 4.30, I'm like, okay, I have 15 minutes. I'm already super awake. I'm just going to go like get myself ready. So I like, I get up and I realize like, oh my gosh, something is leaking out of me. And it's so funny because you probably know like, you know that a water breaks. You know what there's, but when it happens, you're like something's leaking. But it's also so different than.
Starting point is 00:39:12 and I was going to be induced. So not in my wireless dreams would I have been like my water broke. I was waiting for that every other night. But like I had pads under my bed just in case because I was like I don't, I had really terrible sheets on my bed. So I was like, if I ruin these sheets of my water breaks, I'm going to have a pad under the bed so I can have, don't ruin the mattress, don't ruin the sheets. And of course, then I go to the other room and whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:34 But so I got up and I was like, I think my water broke. And I went in the bathroom and I was like, okay, that's definitely something going out of me. And so I walk in a room and I'm like, hey Evan, and he's like, yeah. And I go, I think my water just broke. And he's like, what was his reaction? He goes, what? He goes, what time is it? And I'm like, 440.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And his alarm was set up 445. And he's like, he's like, what? No way. And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, are you sure? And I said, I think I'm sure I don't know what else would be leave out of me. Never experienced this before. I don't know what it's supposed to feel like. I know. I was like, I don't know. So then like, It came out in like little bits, like, which sometimes it's like a gush for people. And sometimes it's just like squirts out little by little. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:18 So then I'm like, okay, well, like let's hurry then, even though we're already leaving, let's hurry. So I get to the hospital. And the one good thing about the hospital is that they can't turn you away. Like if they were super packed, they can't turn you away if your water breaks. But they can't if you're inducing. They can be like, oh, okay, we need you tomorrow. Yeah. So Evan's like, yes, they can't.
Starting point is 00:40:40 You can't turn us away. Yeah. So we get in there and they're like, are you sure your water broke? And I'm like, so it's like gushing right now into this pad I have on stay. Yeah, that's what I'm assuming. Yeah. So we go into like labor and delivery room just kind of hanging out. And the lady's like, okay, well, let me check like how far dilated you are.
Starting point is 00:41:01 So she like checks. And then it's like, whoosh, like everywhere. And she's like, okay, so your water definitely broke. I'm like, I told you. and she's like but you're only like two centimeters so we're just going to put you on some potosin and then we're just going to wait just going to coast yeah and she and I wanted an epidural so I was like okay and um so she starts a potosin I'm like oh this sucks like this definitely hurts contractions hurt Caitlin they're I've heard like they are not fun I've seen my sister go through
Starting point is 00:41:33 it right in front of her face I was like this sucks I'm uncomfortable like it really is and you try to like I was trying to like breathe through it but it's it's really hard yeah and you know when your man is standing there like he can't help you yeah all he can do is like hold your hand yeah and I was sweating so bad so Evan kept like going over and like getting a cold washcloths and like putting them on my my head and like behind my neck and so finally he's like carly don't be a hero he's like get the epidural he's like don't be a hero you can just get it You would feel great. For carrying a child for nine months.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That's true. And like, I needed him to say that in that moment because I really was trying to be like, I'm going to get through as much of this pain as possible. Yeah. But I didn't need to. So then they were like, they came back in. They checked me one more time and I was four centimeters. And that was like, I don't know, maybe an hour later.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Yes. Yeah. Or nine and a half, 10. So then they're like, we're going to. up your potosin and I was like okay so before you do that I need the epidural um so they gave me the epidural which was I think actually one of the reasons I didn't um I didn't do the epidural sooner because I was like terrified because I was like is it it's supposed to be a huge needle in your back I'm so scared it's a scary yeah it's really scary so um the lady was like okay well the only
Starting point is 00:43:01 thing that's going to hurt is this numbing spray and I'm like what I'm like okay because it's like cold burns yes okay and she was like it's only in hurt for like 10 seconds i'm like okay so she sprays on and it did sting yeah but for like two seconds yeah and then she put the needle in i couldn't feel it oh amazing yeah so then my leg started getting on and i was like well this is kind of like this is happening like i can't really feel anything this is weird let's do it yeah and so then my friend lydia came in and she was like hey i'm gonna hold down the fort in the um in the waiting room like I'm gonna save chairs in our section I'm like Lydia you're amazing and so we're just chatting and she's like okay well you know do you want to take a nap beforehand I'm like yeah maybe
Starting point is 00:43:46 maybe I'll just take a nap and she's like okay and so right when she's like about to um leave the nurse walks in and she was like what do you feel any different and I had told Lydia like I was feeling pressure but I was like I don't know what that means and so she Lydia's like oh well she carly's found some pressure but you know I don't know if she She wanted to tell you, she doesn't know what that means, blah, blah, blah. And the nurse is like, well, do you want me to check you? And by this time, let's see, I've gone in at five, probably around nine. I got the first dose of potosin.
Starting point is 00:44:18 This is probably noon. Yeah. And she's like, do you want me to check you? Your doctor's supposed to come like 30 minutes. Yeah. I'm like, uh, I mean, I don't care. Like, you can go ahead and check me. Like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I don't care who checks me. Better safe and slowering. So she goes in there, checks in her face. She's like, I see head. I mean, seriously, it was like her face looked at me like she had touched a head or saw it. And she goes, oh my gosh, you're nine centimeters. I got to go. I got to call the doctor.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And you could tell it was like, panic. It was like a little bit of panic. Yeah. And so I'm like, okay. So I'm looking at Evan and I'm like, what does that mean? And she goes, well, that means you're going to have to push soon. So we have to get everything ready. And I'm like, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And she was like, I never thought it would be this soon. So not only was Bella like. hey I'm in control of this day yeah you're not getting induced yeah I'm doing it myself but she was like I'm coming to the world as fast as possible yeah I'm here get me out I mean it was insane so then the doctor got there in like 30 minutes and he was he's so cool I love this doctor yeah Dr Craig Martin yeah give a shout out of bread I'm sure he listens he should he's a big off the vine guy he's great though he hung out with us for a while and crack jokes and I was cracking jokes And we were having a grin all time.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And then he was like, okay, it's time to start pushing. And I was pushing and still cracking jokes. And the lady said I was the number two pusher that she's ever met. Okay, Huck. But she said the only, she was like, how do you know how to push so well? And I was like, I don't. I heard someone say push from your abs instead of from your butt and then made all the difference. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I don't know. Take that advice. Take that advice because I think it works. Push from your like front. Not from your butt. Don't like push like you're pooping. Push like you're like, oh, I'm crushing my abs right now. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I just like did it. I'm like, yeah, it's a different feeling, but I think that's what you're supposed to do. Okay. And moral of this story. Yes. You're welcome. So then I was like pushing for like 45 minutes and at the very end, Bella had the cord wrapped around her neck.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Oh no. And so the doctor was like, keep pushing, just keep going, keep going. And she came out and it was actually pretty. scary she was like her hands and feet were like pretty blue and she wasn't crying and so the doctor picked her up and said i'm gonna cry thinking about this he said you're strong you're so strong and they and like those are the first words ever uttered to this girl you are strong you're so strong and can you imagine like coming in the world and hearing that that's like the best thing even as a mom for like to hear that for your daughter so they like sucked her nose in her throat
Starting point is 00:47:03 and then she cried and they handed her to me and um she looked at me like i was like Bella it's okay it's okay and she looked in me and instantly stopped crying she heard your voice heard my voice and then laid on me and never cried again until like later that night yeah yeah but like laid there and oh what a magical moment and like just looked at me in the eyes like motherhood it wasn't it was insane it was one of those things i was like i'm so glad that i've have been talking to you, that I've been singing to you. Yeah. Because you came out and you knew me.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And what's crazy is my mom always tells the story of my birth and how I came out and she said, hi, Carly. And I looked her in the eye. And I was like, Mom, that's exactly what happened to me. Oh, what a full circle like moment. I know, I know. So that's my birth. So that's my birth.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And it moves aside. It does. It sure does. But yeah. No, it was, it was insane. But I just, I'm going to so love telling her that because. I feel like I don't know her personality yet
Starting point is 00:48:06 but I knew how much she was my daughter because she was like so in control of that day she was like I got this so bye you know like that about the childbirth I even remember Evan saying to me like oh she was such a Harley was such a boss but that's because the epidural makes you
Starting point is 00:48:23 like you don't feel the pain so you're just like what are you going to do you have to just do it yeah you can just get through it yeah I remember you saying that to me when I was holding her you're like I had no other option like she was coming out I had no other option yeah and like in that moment I wanted it to be like such a positive experience for both of us I mean I didn't want her to feel any trauma or anything so I think just thinking of it like even though I was you know I was making jokes like
Starting point is 00:48:53 10 minutes before she came out like I wanted her to come into the world like in that environment calm. Yeah, that's such a good point because I just hear stories about that kind of thing when women stay calm and then that that's just how they come out. Yeah. Like if you're like even just calm during pregnancy even. I was not very good. Oh, I know. But I was coming pregnant. Well, whatever. I want to. It's all scary. I'm taking a humble brag right now. I put that baby to sleep tonight. Oh my gosh. Kaelin, you crushed it. I was like, give her to me she got in your arms and she was out in three minutes yeah it's about three two and a half maybe maybe maybe two and I just love her like and I just you would
Starting point is 00:49:42 talk to me and I'd be like just staring at her face no she's cute we did a good job you guys did a great job in fact I feel like carrying a child for us do I want to carry it for you I think no but you can babysit any time no can you please put Sean and I like in charge of baby night one night if you guys want to go somewhere. I know we can do like double dates and stuff like that's actually really good practice. Would love to. Yes. And can we make an Instagram story about it without people getting mad?
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yes. Oh yeah. You can't get mad at that. And also she's really cute and does funny things, so I expect you to do funny things with her. Oh, I'm going to be so funny with her. I don't doubt it, Gail. That girl is going to grow up with a sense of humor. I'm going to tell you that from everyone around her.
Starting point is 00:50:31 She has to. She has to. Okay, guys, so Mother's Day is May 13th. Ooh, that's coming up quick. May 13th. Do I have plans? Where am I going to be? Hopefully I'm with my mom.
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Starting point is 00:51:46 and enter code Vine. That's a crazy deal, guys. Canvasspeople.com, codevine. Okay. I'm going to ask you some questions. Okay. Just because some people had some really funny ones. Like Kayla wanted to know how Huck is adjusting with Bella. So what's crazy is that So my parents were here when We brought Bella home And they have a dog that's also a King Charles Spaniel
Starting point is 00:52:07 That dog Are they brothers? No They're from different breeders But just kidding They're both equally as adorable My parents' dog freaked And my parents kept being like
Starting point is 00:52:18 I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I don't know But a Huck was totally chill Because Huck probably like Just new Yeah I mean he has been chill
Starting point is 00:52:29 since she came but he's pretty chill right now he's sure he now he's just passed out he looks like Bella right now like when she like closed her eyes and the eyes go back but he um he definitely misses the attention and being on my lap but I allow him to be on my lap while she's on my lap and like if I'm feeding her he his head is like on my leg and I'm scratching his belly while I'm feeding her you are such a multitasker I you listen I'm really good at it mom goals and like when I put her in her bass net at night I pick up him and put him on me so every time I'm like not with Bella I'm still with Huck yeah so I make sure to be like that's how I'm going to be it's just you know I mean I love my dog so much yeah I love Bella so much but I also
Starting point is 00:53:16 want my dog to also feel loved I was gonna love hearing you say that because he's so sick of people saying oh you don't know love till you have a child and you're not going to love your dog as much and child goes you know you're damn right I will I'll just have a different love for a child It's so, like, it's a totally different love, but it's, you still. It's not like you stop loving your dog. No, and someone said that to me, they were like, just wait or something. And I was like, no, that's really, that's a very odd thing to say. And I get that it's like, it's like an attention thing.
Starting point is 00:53:47 You don't have as much attention for it. But, I mean, I make time to give him attention. And he loves kids and he loves Bella. Yeah, he does. He loves her. photos my mom okay this is so crazy my mom actually called you going into labor stop it yeah she was like i can tell by huck yes yes that he won't leave he wouldn't leave her because you didn't hug didn't know you're going to get induced but dogs know when you're going to go into labor
Starting point is 00:54:14 didn't leave those two days wouldn't i mean everywhere i went it's crazy your mom is so right oh i like this question cassia waltz said if bella could talk what would she say she loves the most about you um i think that she loves that i talk to her like all day like we just talk to each other all day and i sing to her all day and it's like constant like eye contact and connection it's connection yeah i think that's what she loves sweet i think she'd be like i love that my mom sings to me and talks to me all day i love that she doesn't like that i change her outfits five times a day she really hates that by the way well you probably don't like changing your outfit five times a day too but like sometimes like it just has to happen for her
Starting point is 00:55:01 because she has so many outfits she has to wear them um Courtney dilly great name um if you could hook up baby bells one day far from now with any bachelor baby which couple would you choose oh my gosh who um catherine's i was just about say Samuel Samuel is he is a hunk he's a hunk yeah can we say that about babies he's a hunk yeah I think yes He's a little stud muffin. Yeah. And I think we should definitely work. That's in the works.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I mean, always keep that on the back burner. That kid is so cute. So cute. And he's got great parents. Yes. I loved this question. Jamie Fallon wants to know what was your first. Jamie Fallon like Jimmy, but Jamie.
Starting point is 00:55:48 That's also a great name. Great name. Didn't you even think of that. That is. So Jimmy, what, no, she wants to know what was your first thought about each other? when you met on Chris's soul season. Oh, I hated. I feel like everyone did.
Starting point is 00:56:03 No, I don't hate people. No, but I mean, I do hate some people. But I didn't hate... But this is why. It's just because Caitlin is so, like, confident and Chris loved her. And, like, let's say your boyfriend loves another girl. You hate that girl. But then when I started getting to know her and I knew she was awesome,
Starting point is 00:56:26 like, dang it. I like her so much. I actually really liked you from day one. Dang it. I'm sorry. I really did. Which is funny because I was not myself for like the first like, I don't know, a week and a half. And then I started being like, I'm going to talk shit about people. Yeah. I think I saw. I think when you, I first met you, I was like, I don't buy it, but I like that she's trying.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Totally. I didn't buy myself. And then you told me, oh, that's why. It was like the next morning or when we first moved into the mansion i remember you telling me about your brother zach who was on des a season you loved zach oh wait i did like you because you loved zach i loved that yes i remember and i was like i can't believe that's your brother he's like one of my favorite people that i've ever been on the show yes and so we're sitting in that little kitchen breakfast nook yep i do remember that and i was like i think i have to love her yeah yeah and then we bonded oh yeah it just took a hot minute but i mean i wouldn't have liked me night one either because number one i was on fire i was drinking Tequila shots telling people they didn't deserve the first impression rose.
Starting point is 00:57:30 I was like, who thinks they deserve this? And, like, you got one of the first dates, and then you just kept getting roses. Like, it was like they were glued to you. And I never got, like, I was never that girl. I mean, there was times where I was like, is this a joke? Is this a joke? I don't think I'm supposed to get another. And then it got to a point where I was actually so happy when someone else got one.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Good for you. I remember when Whitney got it. And I was like, oh, yes. I'm like, who's pissed? Who's pissed? This is awesome. What's so funny is, remember that our three on one? When you got the rose.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Oh, yeah. I mean, that was the beginning of my very big controversy. But I remember being like, good job, Gail. Yeah, we were pumped. Totally. That was funny. That was the skating at a hockey arena. Also, we were really good at skating, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:23 We were really good. Yeah. We were really good at commentating, too, but they were. that part out. I know, but that was a fun date. That was a really fun date. That was a fun date. Until the end. Until the end. No, it was still fun for me at the end. I was chugging whiskey at the end laughing. Actually, me too, because I looked really great. Until I looked. Until I looked like I was jealous, which I was not. They could have made any of us look that way. They just chose you. That's all that happened. But you know, a part of me is like happy that they chose all my terrible commentary because that means I was doing a good
Starting point is 00:58:56 job of commentary. You were great TV. Thank you, Caitlin. And then it led you to where you are now. Basically, Bella came out of good commentary. Yes. If you didn't have good commentary. Sometimes bitchy commentary. If you take anything from this podcast, bitchy commentary will get you an angel child with the love of your life and a sweet dog. I hope she doesn't come out to be that type of person. Yeah. She will. She will. Maybe she's the future bachelorette. Oh my gosh. If that show lasts that long. If she's that cute later, she will always be that cute. She's so cute. And she will have the best personality.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Okay, we have time for one more question. Okay. Let me pick a good one. I can't believe we have the same phone case. It's so funny. That's hilarious. It's so funny. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Okay, we'll go with this one. I'm not saying it's a bad one. I'm just like, it's pretty deep. Brittany C says for Carly, what is the hardest part and best part of motherhood? And Caitlin, when are you going to make boosto babies of your own? I think you should answer that first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I'm curious. I've been talking about this all night and asking her. Let me just say, first of all, I'm not on birth control. Oh, yes. That makes me happy. So there's that. Then I'm like, and I do have my eggs frozen, as did you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And I'm like, yeah, I just, you know what? It's just going to happen when it happens and I can't wait. That's how I am about a second baby. Yeah. Like if it happens, that's amazing. That was going to be my last. question for you. Oh, okay. Sorry. We'll go back. Okay. Okay. What's the hardest and best part of motherhood? Okay. So the hardest part
Starting point is 01:00:31 um, I think sometimes it's just you get really overwhelmed and like exhausted because you're trying to make this baby as happy as possible. And sometimes it's just impossible. Mom guilt. Yeah. It's like, mom guilt's probably the hardest part of motherhood. It's really hard. Like if I were to guess. Like yesterday she didn't want to nap and no matter how many times. I would go in and like, you know, I would sing to her and I, we'd be in the dark and all of these things. I was doing it all right. She just didn't want a nap. So she was very unhappy.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Like feeling. Yeah, it's a helpless feeling. I think that's the hardest part is you're trying to really help this child live its best life. And sometimes you can't figure out how and you try all of the seven things and could be, could it be diaper change. Could it be they have gas? Could it be they're hungry? Could it be they're sleepy? Right.
Starting point is 01:01:21 You try this list and then you try it again and again and again. And sometimes you can't figure it out. Yeah, there's like, yeah, there's like seven things you can be, you know? And then you're like, if, if it's not that, what is it? And then you probably get paranoid. Oh, oh my gosh. And then you don't ever Google. You probably get delusional from not sleeping.
Starting point is 01:01:37 No, don't Google. It's the worst. The most gratifying thing, was that it? Something like that. The best thing about being a mom is when you look at your baby and she just looks at you, Evan asked the other day, what's your favorite thing Bella does? And I said, honestly, it's like when she looks. me and she just smiles because like even if she's like she gets upset when I walk out of the room
Starting point is 01:01:59 like today I like I had her in her lounger by the way she's doing great sleeping right now she's doing so good sleep champ gone um and I like went to grab the laundry out of the room and fold it so I like walk out walk back in and she like starts fussing and then right when I walk back in I'm like hi Bella she just looks at me with the biggest smile just like seeing me She had seen me literally five seconds before that. God, that makes me happy. And it's like these smiles that they give that just melt your heart in this way because they just love you so much.
Starting point is 01:02:36 What was I doing in life before this? Like, what was my purpose before this? What's so weird is I was in the gulch the other day walking around with Bella, which we used to live and going to dinner with my friends. And I'm like, you guys, I used to party here. I used to party here. Yeah, yeah. I had a baby.
Starting point is 01:02:50 This is so wild. like I can't imagine life without Bella. I can't. She's the best thing in the whole world. Her face she's so cute. I can't stand it. I can't really stand it either and she's not mine. Like she's it's the best thing. And then I feel like you guys are really set in the bar high with bachelor babies. Like all bachelor babies are so cute. Cute. But also bachelor people I think in general are like cute people. I was the ugliest baby you've ever seen. I don't believe that. Okay. Proven it right now. I am, they can edit out any, like, weird silence here because I will find, you will. I look exactly like Bella when I was a baby.
Starting point is 01:03:33 We're the same. I hope. My brother Denton the other day, I was talking about on the phone and he goes, by the way, it seriously freaks me out how much you and Bella look like. Like, I remember you as a baby, and you look like Bella and it actually weirds me out. Oh, that's sweet. I know. I hope our babies look like Sean when he was a baby because he was so cute.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Also, something that's going to really annoy you, Caitlin, when you have a baby, is that people say, she looks exactly like Sean. Oh, and you're like, no, I want her to look like me. You're like, can she look like me a little bit? The other day, I posted a photo of... I see Bella and you. I see both. I see both. Oh, 100% both.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So the other day, I posted a photo of me and Bella next to each other. And the pictures looked very similar from my baby picture to her baby picture. And someone said, is it weird that you both look like Evan? And I was like, okay, let's take a step, Pat. Why don't people get it? Like, are you really trying to just make me sad? Sad, angry, mad, upset, everything. Like, you're telling me that my baby picture also looks like, Kevin, that is me.
Starting point is 01:04:42 But that's me. You're like, it can't because it's me. I know. It's so weird. This is going to drive me nuts. I have to find this photo for you because you will be like. Are you like scrunchy face? like are you fat are you like weird hair let me paint a picture because nobody on here is going
Starting point is 01:04:59 because that was really weird looking i got cute oh my gosh kailen is showing me this picture and these giant sunglasses and pigtails with bows and her her bows and her sunglasses and her bathing suit all match yeah that's like my dream for bella oh well there you go i got i did get cute but okay it has to be coming up there is one photo when I was like a baby baby and you'll be like okay not so cute yeah I actually haven't seen a picture of Evan as a baby but he was a cute kid and there's there are so many times that I look at like if I'm holding her in the mirror I'm like oh my gosh we look so similar but then he'll be holding her and I'm like whoa you guys look so similar she has my nose she has his eyes
Starting point is 01:05:45 for sure but you know what's so funny I think I see your smile oh that's nice yeah I think he's so funny. He goes, oh, sometimes she gives me these looks and I'm like, don't give me your mom's look. It's so funny. That's funny. Oh, my gosh, like, because Sean was such a blonde, blonde baby. Oh, I can imagine
Starting point is 01:06:05 that. Oh, here we go. This is the one. You're going to be like, oh. Oh. Yeah. No, but you're not like, you have like chubby cheeks. I've got a weird thing going on. You have some interesting hair.
Starting point is 01:06:21 But so does Bella. Bellet's hair doesn't grow on the top. It only grows in the back like a mullet. See, mine's definitely a mullet. Mine's curly on top, straight on the bottom. But, Caitlin, you're still so cute. You think that's cute? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Really. Yeah. Look at your little face. I want to put that on Instagram with a pole saying is this cute. No, and then tell people it's neat. It's almost like you have a toupee on the top of your head. That's exactly what it looks like. But your face is so cute.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So, like, if you just did that, that face is not cute. That's the biggest cheeks I've ever seen in my whole life. It's so cute. It's really cute. You guys, don't listen to her. Oh, my gosh, you're so cute. What? Yes. Even my mom will be like, you weren't the cute as baby.
Starting point is 01:07:04 No, you were really cute. Really? Your mom's going crazy. Uh-uh. Well, she still thought I was, but she was like she knew. No, you were cute. Did she come in like a papoose? Like, is she a native?
Starting point is 01:07:16 Like, sometimes I wish I had a papoose because that would be really easy. He's really functional. yes that's amazing i feel like i got all the best questions okay well then let me end this um thank you so much for being on the pod and for letting me come over and drink wine and i mean i tried to bring you wine but it broke but it broke i'm just so glad bella slept through this whole thing she's a sleeping champ tonight she is the real MVP she really is and hook too i will post this photo tomorrow um all right well usually i end with a joke I think you still should
Starting point is 01:07:53 I mean dad jokes are such a thing want to hear my joke yes thank you oh my god did you see how excited I just got usually I have to come up with a joke I would love to hear a joke the joke is
Starting point is 01:08:02 um right now only one of my boobs works so I have like about an e-cup and then maybe a solid big bee it's a really funny joke but the thing is jokes it's not a joke it's not a joke that's just real life
Starting point is 01:08:18 but it wasn't a joke all the moms out there can probably relate. A fact, all women's boobs one's bigger. No, but this is major. Like, this is two or three solid cups sizes. I mean, one's still keeping a child alive.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I haven't pumped in a while, so it's even bigger. Can you really, can you tell right now? Let me see. Oh, yeah. You can tell. That one's bigger? Oh, yeah. But not.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You know, when you lean over and you're like, you wear proper clothes to hide in. Yeah, well, that's not like you're wearing like, you're welcome. It's around the house. I'm very. Yeah, I'm very scared about the bikinis. No, don't be.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I'm just going to wear padding in one side. There you go. And you can. Yeah. Grape joke, Carly. Yes. I like it. Nice.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Nice. Your session is now in. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Tune in to hear new mini-sodes every Thursday. And check out new full-length episodes every Tuesday, exclusively on podcast.1.com, the podcast one app, and Subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Who's not with OTV?

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