Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Chris Randone and Krystal Nielson

Episode Date: September 20, 2018

This week Kaitlyn sits down with Bachelor in Paradise’s engaged couple Chris Randone and Krystal Nielson. Join in the fun as we find how the Goose nickname came about, what it’s like getting to know each other after the show, and questions from fans like you! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Okay, welcome to Grape Therapy. I am your host, Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now starting. I say that to sound like a therapist. Your session is now starting. Today in the studio, we have Chris and Crystal from Bachelor in Paradise and Bachelor and Bachelorette. Yes. I was just thinking you guys don't even have to come up with one of those combined couple names.

You're already Crystal. Right. That was the big debate. Is it Team Crystal or is it? Team glitter goose, which was big. Okay, which one are we going with? I like Cristal. I like crystal, too, because it sounds like a fancy drink.

I do, too. Put us on the bottle. But we threw it out to Instagram, and, I mean, the consensus was glitter goose. Oh, yeah, because when you want an opinion, you take it to the internet. Absolutely. And they will tell you. You do comments with the finger pointing down, at least three, and then you go into the stories, and then you do the poll. To really, like, kind of take away, like, a map of.

I'm too scared to go there because I'm like, I'm not sure I want to know what people think. There's a lot of opinions sometimes. Because sometimes I remember having a girlfriend in high school who would tell me the opposite of what I, like, if I'd be like, oh, I really want to cut my hair. She would think that would look bad on me. And she was like, yeah, you should do that. It would look so good. And then I would do it and she was like evil.

So then I'm like, there's probably so many people out there that would be like, oh, yeah, Caitlin, totally do that. And then I do it and listen to them. Right? Yesterday. She did that to me yesterday. We were at the train station. So what the fuck. No, no, no, no.

Hold on, hold on. I totally told you. So this lady was like. Oh, my God, I'm a huge fan. I want to take a picture with you guys. We took us first train ride from San Diego to L.A. Okay. Yeah.

So after the picture, she goes, oh, you have something in your teeth. No, I go, babe. You should probably pick that out of your teeth. Yeah, and meanwhile, I had a bunch of stuff in my teeth. And after the photos. Yeah, and we had already had a lot of conversations before that where she definitely saw my teeth. And so now this lady has this selfie with black shit all over my mouth. But that's kind of funny.

And green and like. Yeah. It makes you, so relatable, Chris. You're so relatable. Celebrities. They're just like us. That's so funny. I actually had stuff in my teeth yesterday when we were taking pictures before the Emmys.

We went to the Emmys. Saw. Love the dress, by the way. Oh, thank you. Love the dress. Thank you. Love the other dress you were dancing in to Beating the Beast as well. Oh, I loved that one too, but it was very itchy.

It was like a raincoat material, which was interesting. But yeah, I went, that's my favorite. favorite color right now, by the way. Mustard yellow. Yeah. How do you know how to pick the right dress? I don't. That's why I get my stylist low to pick one for me. He is incredible. But yeah, I had a bit of a wardrobe malfunction last night at the Emmys. And yeah, I sat down. So what happened was I'm obsessed with Haley Page and I'm obsessed with all of her dresses and I wear her dresses a lot. And so we had to get it altered a bit in the back because it was a little bit big. And so we took it last minute to this 24-hour altering place, and they took it in, but they're like, we're going to have to take out the zipper and replace it because of this, like, intricate beating, this beautiful work that Haley did.

And so they took a new zipper, put it on. And then I was like, cool, it works. And no, it did not work. And I sat down. The first second I sat down, we're like sitting there. I went to lean forward to, like, get a drink or something. And it went, and the zipper popped off. So obviously not Haley's.

problem i took it to just some like 24 hour place that replaced it and it just popped and so i'm sitting there and i'm like it's right down to like the middle of my back crack like thank god i didn't go with the nude spanks like up to my like boobs because that would have been like so unfortunate uh yeah i had rainbow undies on and i'm like sitting there and i'm like okay i'll just stay seated cleo can go um get me safety pins like we'll figure this out Well, then freaking Betty White comes out. And you don't sit down when Betty White comes out. You stand up.

And so everybody stands up and I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, God, I'm going to stand up. Like, it was, like, right down. And, like, it's a heavy dress. Like, I would have to use two hands to clamp it to stand up. And anyway, so I was, like, holding it. And then you're clapping. So my butt was exposed.

And then the lovely guy next to me gave me his jacket. Oh. So I put on, yeah, that guy that was with NBC. Yeah, gave me his jacket. And then he left. And so I was like, okay, well, now I'm screwed again. and Cleo's asking everybody for pins. We couldn't find pins anywhere, which is crazy.

What? It was the weirdest thing. And then they come up to us and go, hurry, hurry. We got two seats down closer at the front you guys can have. And I'm like, oh, my God. And they're like, commercial breaks about to end. You got to go. And I was like, oh, my God, here we go.

And I just was like, screw it. And I got up and I just like scurried down, like holding my dress together. And everybody's like pointing, laughing at me. And I was like, I don't care. I'm getting closer to Justin Timberlake. It was awful Yes, but was it worth it? Oh, absolutely

Yes. We had the best time And I'm like all about like a good story I'm like I don't get embarrassed easily I don't really care what happens to me I'll like spin zone it I'll turn a negative into a positive I was just like this makes for great

Instagram stories like laugh relatable I just my teeth My undies were showing It was honestly so funny I went through your story actually I saw that photo of you and you looked so adorable It was like so, you're, like, defeated. And just sharing it, though, and I was like, it's so cute.

It was so cute. It was so cute. It was so appropriate. I was like, if anyone could have rocked that, baby, it was you. It was so, thank you for saying that. Because it was so funny because, like, so many of my girlfriends and, like, my mom were texting me, they're just like, this would happen to you. This is so funny.

Yeah, it was so cute. Yes. Rainbow undies. Rainbow undies. I mean, thank God I didn't go with the granny panties. Thank God. That would have been just so. You just would have had to, like, take him off.

I mean, sorry. You just would, bear ass. Yeah. enough about me enough about me let's get back to Christel yeah I like actually broke the zipper on purpose just for good content that's what I thought about peeing my pants once just to have a good confession on my podcast like I was like I was like you know what I've got nothing this week it's really hard to confess every week I'm gonna pee my pants in my car no I don't know are you are you are you mortified have you like he's okay I'm still thinking about the nude spanks he's okay but This has the thing with poo. It's like his, like, demise, like any kind of poo. Have you guys went there yet with your relationship?

No. Yeah, kind of, actually. With the dogs. Oh. For some reason, so I throw up every time I see 100 people. You actually grew up. Like, I gag, and literally I get so sick to my stomach. What?

Is it disgusting to me? It is disgusting. I mean, it is. I'll give you that. And when it's not mine, it's even more disgusting. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. She, like, for instance, the other day, she has this small toilet in her bungal

in San Diego, and it got, and it got clogged. Yeah. And I'm like, I live in almost a hundred-year-old bungalow. Oh, amazing. Like, right by the water, by this amazing historical church, it's with church bells, it's amazing. I love it. I love it.

300 square feet of amazingness. Oh, that's amazing. It really is. Okay, continue, baby. Very old toilet. Very old plumbing system. So it's tough, the plumbing system. Yeah.

So you got to be easy with what you're doing. Right. Yeah. And unfortunately, it got, it got stuck. Yeah. And she has a plunger. Yeah. Very tiny miniature one.

Never seen this size of my life. It was for midgets. It was like a kid. Like it goes with the home. It's like character. I had no idea where she got this plunger from. It wasn't a normal size. Right.

So I'm going. I'm going. It freaking sucks in and it flips over. Yeah. That's the worst. And then it flames. Yeah. So then I'm like trying to pop it back.

It flames all this shit comes on me. Yeah. And I'm thinking like, and I'm like freaking out. It won't flush still. It's rising to the top. Yeah. And so what happens? I'm starting to like throw up.

Do you not know. It's just normal. Now you're clogging the toilet more with throw-up. We haven't gone there in our relationship where we'd like poo or anything like that. So he's trying to like be discreet about it. Like, I'm like, what the fuck is taking so long? He's into the bathroom for like 20 minutes. No A-C.

No A-C. I'm sweating. Oh, so you're just brewing in the smell too. It's just the worst-based scenario. Marinating. Yeah, exactly. Oh, no, that's so unfortunate. But you figured it out?

I mean, yeah, after five or six flushes. Do you not know the trick that if you plug a toilet and the water starts coming up and everything's going out. You just go down to where the little knob is and you turn it all the way, turn the water off. I usually don't have. Well, you're welcome. You lift up the lid. You know, you learn a lot of things on this podcast. No, baby, you stick your hand in the toilet and try to grab it. That's what you probably want me to do. Well, you know, sometimes you just got to do what you got to do. So, and you were there for all this,

Crystal? Or this is just, oh. I had no idea what was going on. She's like, what is taking so long? Oh, can he's like, just, just like, reading my book, relax me. And of course, I don't want to share with her my struggle. I was struggle in the bathroom. No, you got to. You guys are engaged. I know, and I was like, you know what, babe, this is what happened. Yeah, you know what?

That's real life. That's real life. That's what happens to couples. I made Sean plunge my toilet the other day, so that you'll get there eventually. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I feel confident in asking. I mean. That's, I was going to say, you guys are, I mean, do you want kids eventually? Ooh, that's a good question. Oh, sorry. Was that like? No, it's just taking care of two dogs. It really has shown me that it's a lot of work.

yes it's incredible i know and to throw in a kid in the mix yeah would definitely probably it's a lot of responsibility put a lot of stress and overwhelm us yeah it well it would i mean i've heard that kids are kind of a big responsibility uh a few of my girlfriends have kids and they say like your relationship needs to be in like the best place ever to like be able to handle a kid coming in so but that's what i'm i was going to say like you're going to see a baby come out of her vagina at one point i'd probably faint okay And throw up. I probably wouldn't want him down there.

Yeah. Probably when I want to see it happening. I used to say that. I'd be like, I don't want him down there. But now I'm like, no, you better appreciate what my body's going through and like see the dumpster fire going on down there. Oh, God. Into a beautiful thing. Into a beautiful thing.

Because I will never look the same. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. You know, appreciate it. Anyways. Back to back to like more like beautiful things. like your relationship.

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Did you guys talk before you go on Paradise? Because I know that happens a lot with people. Did you guys? No. No. Okay, I like that. Because I know sometimes people talk before, but I like that you guys didn't. and you guys were both

I'm trying to remember this is how funny the Bachelor world works like you think that you're like when you're in it and people are so mean you're like people are gonna hate me forever and then you just do one thing

and people will move on and like then all of some people can just turn and love you but I'm trying to remember Chris were you a villain on your season of The Bachelorette I honestly can't remember and I blogged about it

I talked about it I podcast about it and I'm like trying to remember what it was that happened because I remember you had the one date that I was like, I loved, I loved his date. And then I remember something happening, but I don't remember you being a villain. I mean, some, which I hate that word, by the way. Some people classified as a villain. Others will just say I had a big great downspot spiral.

Yeah. So, I mean, either way, however you want to perceive it. But what do you think it was? I think I just wasn't self-aware. I think maybe I was misunderstood. I think I was maybe misunderstood. And that's a very self-aware thing to say. So good for you. Yeah. So looking back now, there's definitely a lot of things I could have differently of course to redirect my path or at least help people understand who i was as a man and as a person yeah i mean think about it though but you're you're in a situation that's just so foreign and you don't understand like what producers can like say and do and twist and like just what they can really truly like they're they're also on the other end being like yeah you should be upset about this and then you're like well now i have a reason and like you're right i should but they could just

You know, they can say whatever they want to you to, and you have no one else to listen to but them. So I think it's hard because I don't really think a lot of times producers not to like take them down. I've done that enough in my life. But like you think they're on your side and you think they're like doing all these things to help you. But at the end of day, they're just making good TV. I think the best way to put it is it's hard to quantify what is real and what is not real. Yes. And that is what's the toughest part, especially if you've never been exposed to TV or.

or producers or just anything where you don't have control, essentially, as far as not knowing the atmosphere and the circumstances. Exactly. So for me, I had no idea. And thank God I met this amazing woman because then she helped me understand what the hell I was involved in and helped me understand that, listen, you can say what you want to say and do what you want to do. You have control of your own life and your own path here.

So that's kind of what helped us kind of gravitate together. Yeah. And Crystal, because I always loved you. I always did. Like, I told you that. I was like, she's gold. Like, and I just think, same thing for you. Like, you guys both just came out, like, this strong couple.

And I think you've always been very self-aware. And I think the same thing with Jordan. Like, people hate on him or do they? I don't know. But, like, he's just, to me, he's so self-aware. And he, like, you know, has his little breakdowns or whatever. But he's so self-aware. And I always felt that about you is that you just, like, you would always

come back to like who you are and you were very strong over social media with people after your season like a lot of people can't do what you did you know what i mean like you were just tough thank you i think um i mean honestly it was really hard oh yeah dealing with well and a big thing was was just i mean to be shown in a way that is the antithesis of who i am like i'm all about empowerment of others that's my career my passion and like my life is dedicated so to be on a tv show and have people think that yeah I like to break down other women yeah it was really and to not be able to voice that right right not even be able to stand up for myself was incredibly hard and it was a tough journey and I think you get to one point where I mean of course you're kind

of at first a little obsessed with reading everything what everyone's saying and in your I'm reading every message yeah but you get to a point where you just have to shut it out yeah shut out the noise and then focus on really the things that empower you yeah and that was turning back to my my friends my family and focusing on myself it is such a shift you have to do because I remember doing the same thing. Like, I got so much hate after my season, obviously, and I was, like, reading things. And just at first, I was like, this is hilarious. Like, I thought it was funny.

And then after a while, I was like, no, this is actually breaking me down. And I didn't even realize it was like. I remember, I remember watching that. And it was the, actually, I think it was the first time ever I was aware of kind of cyberbullying. Yeah. It was, I remember watching you, break down, crying and reading Chris Harrison started reading, like, the death threats and what people were saying, seeing you break down. And I was like, wow, people actually do that. And it was, wow, it's so funny.

I totally recall that moment. I think it's gotten worse, too, for the people after my season. Like, I remember being like, this is so bad and reading what people would say. And I did actually find it humorous at first because I was like, these people are nuts. And then it really started to get to me without even, I didn't even realize it until, like, I would find myself crying over things. And I would be like questioning, like, did I make mistakes? Like, who was I? And like, what was I doing?

And then just like so many things you start questioning. Yeah. Yeah, and then I was like, oh my God, I'm basing this all on what people think they know of me. And they don't even know you. And they don't even know me. Like, they're just seeing an edited version of me on a TV show that's like a little hour of like a week. Right. You know, like it's 20 hours a day with how many cameras and yeah.

So much footage. And you need to just, people need to remember that. Like, we need to remember that. And it is, it's hard to separate the like thoughts of, okay, these people are just watching a TV show. They think we're characters. they don't think we're real people and then just staying true to who you are but it's so challenging but yeah it's i mean being self-aware and knowing like you i always say you could eat an apple and people will shit on you like it's just you know like i remember i posted a white wall and i was

like who's going to come at me and they're like you could have posted a black wall oh god and i was like case in point you know that's just that's just that's just and that'll never go away and the bigger social media gets like i think social media was just really blowing up when i went on the bachelor and i think now it's just gotten crazier and people have gotten meaner and not everyone's gonna love you no and you can't make everyone happy no and if you try you're just going to like absolutely drown yourself in misery yeah it's it's impossible yeah i'd say that you know because of that experience on the bachelor i was really nervous of going to paradise because i was like what if my words are used against me i loved when you said that on the after show when you were like i was

really scared and I'm so glad feared and like a lot like stop me from because now you guys met and you just seem honestly there's a couple times I was like I don't know if I'm a big Chris guy but I took it all with a grain of salt because knowing everything tell me where the goose name came from is that self-proclaimed

I will say this once again it is not self-proclaimed okay I don't know if that's like a question you always get asked but I'm like no I I do and it happened during casting weekend okay for the bachelorette for the bachelorette okay and so it kind of resonated with me

amongst the producers and people who were not part of the cast on The Bachelorette season that's what they would call me I'm gonna tell the story Yay! You like me, I always got on I'm like, you know what?

I'm gonna tell this one. You weren't even there. So Chris was there with a couple of producers and one of the main ones. And they're all like, you know, we like you but we feel like there's a little more. I feel like you got a little silly

a little silliness to you. Oh, the silly. goose and Chris was like all of a sudden he just like relax his reclines back and he's like yeah man I'm silly I'm a silly I'm a silly goose and it just stuck

and so it was the producers all you called him goose behind his back for the whole season of The Bachelorette and then coming to Paradise it just they started using it with and it just caught on okay silly goose is so cute I didn't realize that and now I like the nickname goose

right because I was I was like I thought you were like I pictured like the guy from Greece like I'm goose like that you know what I mean that's what I thought it is it goose top gun top gun oh top gun sorry John Travolta

why did I just think it was grease I was like yeah I'm goose like grease lightning man I have no idea what I'm talking about okay I'm into it silly goose silly goose is cute

I'm into that I like to have fun and I'm a praying Yeah. And I like to joke around a lot. Do you pull pranks on Crystal? I do. Yeah. Like, what's the craziest prank you pulled on her? I just like to mess with her in a lot of ways.

Yeah. He pretended that he bought coach flights for him. Oh, yeah. Horrible jokes. Wow. Jokes are supposed to be funny, Chris. Not cool, bro. No. So I like to...

Coach tickets? I like to mess around and just have one because that's just who I am. Yeah. And I like to see people laugh. And I also like to scare people. Yeah. I'm the same way. I'm a huge prankster.

Yeah. So. Ooh, we should pull a prank on someone. We should like prank call somebody right now. That'd be interesting. Except I don't know who and I didn't come prepared for this. I didn't come prepared for this. Hey guys, I know you get your grape therapy here from me.

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I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to try and manipulate you. I'm just going to tell you. I need ratings. You need ratings? I really need people to download this podcast. So could you please give me a headline? Give me a headline to work with here. I would say... Just kidding. I don't want to also make fun of the situation because it could be very hurtful to some people's heart. And I want to be aware of that. No, I personally am close to Jordan. I know him as a friend and someone outside of the show. I think there's still a little bit of misunderstanding as far as the validity of the context of the text. But that was a very well put sentence. I will say this. I think there is some truth behind it.

Whether or not all of it is true, I guess that's to be determined. But I think someone doesn't necessarily get hurt the way that he is based on false accusations. That's what I was thinking. And I also think that there had to be some things leading up to that that led him to believe those texts when those came out. Yeah. Like when he said, like, I can tell those are from Jenna. Like, that's how she, that broke my heart. I just.

He said that? Yeah. He said something. Like, I just read, like, I don't know what magazine or who he talked to, but I just read that he was like, I think he's, oh, this is even more heartbreaking. I think he said, like, I know that's my Jenna. like the way she was texting and it just broke my heart because I'm like he was so in love obviously

and it's just like I don't know and I don't want to start rumors or contribute to the rumors I just was like wondering if you guys had any insight and again it's always good content but no I I love Jordan I don't know them at all but I was just wondering if there was any like

I don't I'm not going to sit there and like Google too much on it I was just wondering if there was more information that came out or if how he's doing I mean I know right now he's definitely hurt I know that he's trying to really put everything together

because I mean Like are they talking Are they together or are they done? I think at this point in time they're not together officially But I know based on The conversations I've had with him And letting him know that he has my

utmost support And crystal support as well Of course That he's someone who wouldn't have got down On one knee Just for fun just because of his family. Yeah.

And so I know that he wouldn't want his mom and dad to not be proud of him. And especially for him, getting down on one knee is something that he would only want to do once. And let's just be honest, he really did love Jenna. He was obsessed with her. Of course. You could see it. You could see it. It was so interesting because, I mean, we were there in paradise.

We watched it back. And then here we are. And it was that even in paradise, we could see just how Smith and Jordan was with Jenna. Yeah. But I didn't see Jenna really reciprocating the feelings for him. Right there. Yeah. And, and it was, I mean, you really see it.

And I was so surprised because of the show can certainly edit things in a certain way. But I could even see it watching back. I was like, Jenna's just not into Jordan. Yeah. And so when they actually, when we, after we got engaged, we walked out and they were there. I was very surprised that they were engaged because I knew Jenna. I've gotten to know her. And I know she's just very scared of commitment in relation.

relationships and marriage is quite a large commitment right yeah and so she I knew she wasn't ready for that so yeah I was very surprised and she told me she's like I didn't I was like are you okay because she was like well you can tell yeah right she's like freaking out yeah freaking out yeah I was like I just I wasn't expecting it Jordan said he wasn't going to and I was like oh my gosh yeah because that I mean I they that's again like it's and then I watch a fantasy suite though and she's like I would totally get in game oh yeah exactly so confused like when I saw that back I was like I know it is confusing when did they start the whole recording of the oh no that's what I was going to ask when they do happy couples did you guys

ever do happy couple weekends did they film you yeah yeah yeah the first weekend so they just started that with um Ari and Becca that sounded so wrong to say together I was like all right and Becca yeah I know I know yeah oh my gosh that was a thing um but yeah they started that with them and I wonder like what is that just to like in case something happens And so, like, the viewers have, like, closure on it, I guess or something. I think it's to give the audience an understanding of the progression and where we're at in our relationship. That's a good point. Like, it's kind of that they do that.

Yeah. I think it's to see kind of because there's a gap. There's a couple months time that goes by where we're not really together every single day because we have to be behind closed doors. And we're obviously under contract too. So the couple's weekends helps give the audience that exposure to see kind of how we are. I mean, on hardwood floors. Even though, let's be honest, if you guys were doing rough, the cameras wouldn't come and I feel like the couples would put it on.

Like, they're not going to be like, hey, let's air our dirty laundry right now. I mean, I don't know. Ari broke up with Becca. That's true. That's true. And engagement. But you can see the energy and interaction between two people. And so Jenna's and Jordan's couple's weekend that they showed was kind of awkward.

Yeah. Oh, I agree. They cut out pictures and put it on a poster. and then there was awkward moments talking about the whole Tucker thing again and not there wasn't you couldn't feel and sense the love no and the passion and Jordan's a very passionate man and it's hard when it's just one-sided he needs that reciprocation from his significant other yeah she wasn't doing her little tongue thing and her giggles and like making out with him and like I was like oh no yeah you're right you can sense that energy so that's true so I think right there that's also a testimonial to kind of of where the relationship has led to now. That's true because in like Bachelor world, you're like always being romantic and you're like secluded and you're like in these magical moments where like they're getting that.

Where in the real life you've now like been together, spent time together, really know each other and you can't fake that energy. No, you really can't. Yeah, that's a good point. And especially with couples weekends, it's a moment of time to get to know each other even more and you have privacy. There's no cameras.

Yeah. It's really figuring out the direction and path. And who knows the conversations that they had during those times? And kind of did they evolve or did they kind of regress? Because in Paradise, it's a totally different ballgame. Oh, yeah. You have so much time together. You're not distracted by anything in the world.

You don't have any distractions. None. And it's so much easier than being on The Bachelor or Bachelor. That's what I've heard. Obviously, I don't know. But I've heard that it is so much easier to be on Paradise. And it's just so much more freedom and, like, actually getting to know somebody, no distractions. It's very relaxed.

I mean, the cameras aren't in your face and the first time, as you know, like on Bachelor, and I can't even imagine. I totally want to pick your brain about being the Bachelorette because I can't even imagine what that was like.

Do it. Yeah, you know, just tell us now. Pick my brain. What was it like? I thought you meant her to do it, be Bachelorette. Oh, no, no. Sorry, I've had a little bit of white wine,

so my hearing's off. The white wine's getting to him. What was it like? What was it like? We were talking about Colton. Colton's our friend. We were like, holy shit. Like, I think at one point we were always

like, would I be, would I ever want to be in that kind of position, you know, before even casting for The Bachelor, like, would I ever want that? And then I'm like, having gone through now two seasons, I'm just like, I can't imagine being a lead because being a participant on a show or casting. How do it? How? Honestly, I always try and like explain it in a way where I don't want to seem like I'm ungrateful because I'm like, thank God, like I would do it again because of what I got out of it and like everything that's happened and all the opportunities and like what I have now but on that same note like it was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life it was the most stressful thing I've ever done in my life I was sick

like I lost hair I gained weight I was depressed I was just having like the hardest time through it all during the filming let alone when it was airing right like it was already hard enough because I'm like a person who I'm very empathetic and I'm very, like, I can't handle hurting people's feelings. And I think a lot of people can say that, like, who really likes hurting people's feelings? But, like, I will lose sleep over hurting people's feelings. And if somebody thinks that I'm, like, malicious or something or doing something, like, I was just trying to follow my heart the whole time. As cheesy as sounds, I really was.

And if you do do that, you obviously make mistakes and you learn from them. And, like, people are like, do you have regrets? And it's like, of course, I hate him. No regrets. Like, of course, everyone has regrets somewhere. the way. But it was just the most challenging thing. And to have that as like a lead where you kind of have to play their little game too, you know, like you have to say the right things and say that like, I have my husband's in this room and do the whole thing and keep the people

you don't want to keep, but do this. And you have to like know, like on the bathroom. I was so naive. And I was like, this is great. This is so much fun. The producers of my family. And then on the other end, you're like, see too much. And you're like, this is dark. And you, like, want to, like, warn everybody, but you can't. And then, again, like, you have to play their game and you're just so secluded and isolated. Wait, I got a question. Yeah. So being the lead.

Yeah. Because for me, personally, if I was the lead, I feel like I would definitely know the top two or three women the first night. Yeah. Is that, was that the same place for you? Yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah.

Really? I definitely knew, like, top three. I was surprised by Jared. One, because he voted for Brit. dude because he came out saying he was right oh my god he was like I'm the love man and he had like a superman and I was like ew but he surprised me but that's right you and what was that like oh that was dude were you just like did you know when they announced it or were you just like they it took a like I said no to being the going on as the bachelor at because they're like it's going to be you

against Brett and I was like not doing it I'm not doing it and it like took a week of them like convincing me I was like I can't I can't but they're like what if you find the love of your life what if it's you and I was like and then my whole family all my friends were like you have to, like, at least try. Right. What was that like on the first night? Because the two of you were... Could they come up to you one by one?

Yes. It was weird. It was like, wait. That's so weird. They go to like, one or the other first. Yeah. And it was like, you're just standing there waiting. I remember your face.

It was so awkward because I'm like... So awkward. We're two very different people. Like, if she was similar to me, I would have had a harder time with that. But because we're so different, I'm like, if you want her, you're not for me anyways. So at the end of the day, that made it easier. that we were so different, but still super awkward.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, like every time a guy came out and they were like, hey, Caitlin, Britt, you're the most beautiful. I was like, well, fuck you. Okay, so how good did it feel? It felt terrible. Can you feel bad for Brit?

It felt terrible. When they were like, Chris Harrison was like, Caitlin, like the guys picked you. I was like, oh my God, Brit. Like this, like my, because I liked her. I liked her. So I had like this pit in my stomach. I'm like, she's just like, in a,

limo right now like going home feeling like you know because Chris Harrison put it in the worst words ever he was like who will be the better wife I was like you he said that dick he did say that on like on the live after show at The Bachelor and so I was like she's probably just feeling like so awful right now I know how I would feel in that situation like even if you had all the confidence in the world and you had self love and you just knew who you were still that stings and you're on national television and she had a really good outlook on it and whatever but it I just felt terrible. I was like

I don't know like how to be happy or celebrate in this moment when I know she's hurting or like feeling so silly like silly like silly goose good one Caitlin well can we cheers to how everything works out how it all works out because

because get a load of this Brit's married and I'm not so wait did she marry a bachelor alum that's right she got married last year She got married, so there's that. I'm going to ask you a few questions from some listeners because it's so great. It's true, though.

It's so true. Britt wins. At the end of the day, what I've learned from everything is Brit wins. Go, Brett. Okay. Sammy Coyle wants to know, Crystal, do you think your edit on, I love that people know about edits now. Isn't that like a glorious thing? I'm glad they do.

Yeah. She said, do you think your edit on Bachelor in Paradise was more accurate and more accurate reflection of you than your Bachelor edit? I love Bachelor in Paradise Crystal. Oh, that's so sweet. Thank you. Yeah, I would say that it's just such two different beats. I mean, when I went on to The Bachelor, I had no idea what to expect. And honestly, going into it, there was just so much going on with my family.

And it was like, my grandmother died, my dog died. My little brother, I found out was homeless and was using meth on the streets. Yeah. And it was like two weeks before I went. was his only contact. And so we were trying to put him in rehab and he went total AWOL. So I had to literally go into The Bachelor with so much unresolved business. Can anyone even imagine putting themselves in your shoes and doing what you did? Like if anyone actually had an empathic like bone in their body and thought about what you did, they have so much respect for you.

Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. So it was just, I mean, it was a tough time. And, you know, the big thing on The Bachelor was like, I was very aware of our. and I was very vocal about I felt that he was very much a womanizer and wasn't there for the right reasons and I talked about a lot I was very encouraged in my interviews was a huge thing I was like I'm setting up for women

like I'm standing up for women and all the women here and to have it played back with B-roll of the women as I'm talking about I'm above this and I'm so and I'm 30 years old and I'm like there's like 23 year olds 22 year olds who were like hanging on him grabbing his hands and I'm just like

I'm 30 years old like what the am I doing here? Like, I have a career. I have a family. Like, I have an amazing life. You start questioning what you're doing. What is this? Like, I am about this. You know, like, I really I get it. You know, what's crazy is I said that a few times on my season two, but did they air that? No. Right. You know, like, I said the same things. I was like, what am I doing? This is embarrassing. Like, it truly was. I felt stupid when there was, like, such younger girls than me, like, just being so, I don't want to diss them, but desperate. Like, they seem desperate. And I was like, I said the same things. Like, I was like, and a lot of people would. And,

like you just feel above it and and but they can twist it to make you look yeah thank you yeah there was a moment when um well and i was talking about rie and they showed it as if i was talking about the other women and so i was just like oh wow now it looks like i'm i hate women and i'm above them and so and just the total opposite of really who i am so that was really hard to see back yeah um but yeah i would say that going to paradise i really i took a whole month to just meditate and journal and sage and clear the space I'm not kidding I'm getting really

into this meditating thing and I'm essential oils Oh I'm obsessed It's a movement Don't get me started on the essential oils I have rose on me right now Stress away I'm too

Yeah I'm the same way Like I totally believe in essential oils I do not fall asleep without them Like I really don't But please don't come at me It was selling me essential oils right now Anybody please don't come at me I got some

but there's just so many meditating essential oils what else have I been doing journaling I've been I'm in Nashville so it's like I've friends that are singer-songwriters I've been writing music like I just find anything that's like really therapeutic that can take me away from my phone like anything like toxic that like a phone is toxic like social media is toxic it can be a beautiful thing and you can have a voice and you can like share beautiful moments but it's also a beast and it's just like I think now more than ever meditating or just being like a long time rounding yes it's so important and I think it's going to save people yeah like just if everybody gets more into it and does more research on it and like actually tries it I think it is going to be

the way of the world it's what we were doing for thousands of years until recently right the last hundred right you know it was the way of the world I truly believe the next generation is going to like change things because I think us as like if we all have kids and like the next generation I think we're going to make them so aware of, like, the, like, nasty things that can come from social media or, like, the comparisons or all the, like, negative things that can come. We can be, like, more aware of it and have more conversations about it where I just feel like people are more honest these days with, like, reality. There's more transparency. Yeah. Like, you know, think about, like, parents growing up.

Like, everything was great. And, like, nobody talked about their problems. And that was just, like, how, yeah. And now it's like we're all talking about mental health and, like, just more conversation. about, like, important things that can change the world, really. Yeah. I like that. Oh, thanks.

So, to answer that question, yes. Yes. On to a lighter note. Oh, oh, yeah, this one I like because it's different. Sabrina, counsel bomb. I hope I said that right. If you guys won the lottery, what would you splurge on together? Only one thing.

Damn. I think a trip. Trip, for sure. Trip. We would take an amazing trip. Yeah. you guys both like to travel see through water nice sand borah borah i feel like great no go to ellie mcconos oh yeah just a big beautiful trip yeah yeah yeah in greece for sure 100% would you get

married on that trip probably imagine i asked you when the wedding date was imagine i did that that's like my least favorite question that anyone's ever added like when's wedding oh like you're gonna actually announce it on my podcast like we're getting married so we'll just throw that out there yeah of course you are. Yeah. Spoiler alert. You're getting married. Spoiler alert.

Heard here first. Yeah. There's my headline. There's my headline. They're engaged and they will get married. Let's just do it right now. Let's get the ratings. Yeah, you know what?

You want to be the... I should do that. I'll call up Chris Harrison to get in here and I'm like, there's your ratings, Caitlin. There they are. Alexandra, oh, I'm the worst. Skival. That was my way of You should probably not do the last names

Skivolatero I don't know Alexandra What were you most excited to do together after the show It must be exciting to go out An adventure in your hometowns Go out to dinner

Yeah I know isn't that funny Nice bottle of wine Nice chakuri board Yeah Ooh yes Yeah That was my favorite thing too

I was like We get to hold hands in public And go to like Get coffee and go for dinner This is incredible Right Just a date Like a real day off camera

And you know what was so cute was our first date. I actually went to this, I live in this place called Little Italy, San Diego. Oh, yeah, I've been. Oh, yeah, I love Little Italy. I live so good. Yeah. And we went to this place called Mimos, and inside they have this private room in a wine cellar. Yeah.

Table for two. And I was like, it's so romantic and perfect. We get there. We're like, where the fuck of the camera. It's like, it was exactly like, oh, why not what? Totally. I had us in a staged room with candles everywhere. It was literally.

It was a set on the bachelor. And the chairs were angled out towards. We were like, we're in the camera. Oh, that probably made you feel like so comfortable, though. After that, I was like, this is going great. You guys probably had like the most, yeah, you're like, you like, all of a sudden, like Crystal's gone to the bathroom and you're like, I think everything's going really well. Yeah. I was like so, I was like, so are we going to actually eat on the stage?

Yeah. Yeah, do we get to eat? That's amazing. Okay, couple more questions. Oh. Jackie Digby wants to know if you two could switch bodies for a day. What would you do? I feel like this is going to go.

go weird. What would you do, babe? For sure we'd have sex. Well, yeah. 100% have sex. Switch bodies and have sex? I would do, I would go to the gym. I would see how many pull-ups I could do.

Oh. How much I could, like, squat. I would test the body's strength, for sure. I would definitely use a vibrator. Yeah. See what the hype is about. Just want to see. What's all the hype about, guys?

Oh, you'll get it. You'll get it. Definitely oral sex. I would want you to go down on me. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, I mean, as soon as I read that, I was like, this is going to be sexual. I was like, this is going to be sexual.

I know it. I know it. Okay. One last thing. Do you have any jokes for me? Are you a good joke teller? Do we have any jokes? Yeah.

Don't tell me a joke. Ooh. I'm not really the joke guy with a joke. Mr. Prankster, Mr. I like to have a good time. Yeah. It's more. What joke? It's more so real life.

So as far as a joke, though, on the spot i mean i know i'm i'm the worst okay i have one for you what's your joke how did the hipster burn his mouth how did the hipster burn his mouth how he ate the pizza before it was cool wow oh is that bad that's bad my producer's laughing so i got one joke one joke landed i don't know how i feel about that oh is that rude no no it's just no it's just it's just not funny i like hot pizza love hot pizza. I have a worst joke. I actually want one right now.

It's the only, okay. What did the two condoms say while walking past the gay bar? What? Let's get faced. I don't get it. Yeah. I was like in the West Hollywood. I'm so sorry.

I don't get it. Yeah. It's very appropriate. Thank you. Okay. We'll end on that note. Thank you guys so much for bringing me flowers and wine. like so romantic of you guys like i just can i like can we have a two on one or something

absolutely cool cool cool i'm into it wait who's giving up the rose no roses okay no no we're good here um thank you guys so much for coming in and i honestly wish you guys the best of luck and if you need help wedding planning don't ask me i don't know anything about that i'm kately bristow your session is now in off the vine, Grape Therapy. Tune in to hear new minisodes every Thursday and check out new full-length episodes every

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