Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Emily Reid

Episode Date: September 26, 2019

Today, Kaitlyn sits down with Emily Reid, the 27-year old multi-instrumentalist country singer who has made Nashville her home. Kaitlyn and Emily discover how similar they are! They're both f...rom Canada, love crop-tops, and find comfort in song-writing. They talk about female friendships and ask questions about motherhood. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:53 please contact Conix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to a advisor free of charge but mGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with i gaming ontario he's on with o tv podcast one presents off the vine grace therapy kately bristow's going to answer your questions drink to your confessions and hear what you have to say about anything bachelor let's shake it up some more here's katelyn welcome to off the vine i'm your host katelyn bristow today i am sitting down with someone who shares one of my absolute biggest passions in life. She just cheers me. That's right. I'm talking about wine. She also happens to be a Canadian from Victoria, BC, to be exact, and now lives right here in Nashville, where she
Starting point is 00:01:37 writes and releases country music that centers on everything from feeling confident as a woman to all things we love about wine. In fact, you may have seen her recent music video co-starring my very own Spade and Sparrow's Baby. She's come a long way during her time in Nashville from being an independent artist to singing with, oh, singing, signing, Caitlin Reed, with a major label and hitting one million streams on her single. Good time being a woman.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I can't wait to see what she does next and maybe have my wine and more music videos. I think it's the ultimate star. It should be like always like in the back somehow. Just a constant branding piece. Yeah, like Spade and Spade and Sparrows. Yeah, like it's like your little thing and people always look for it.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Please welcome to the podcast, Emily Reed. Yay. Cheers, by the way. years. Oh, this is so nice. I love that you've already tried my wine and you liked it. And it's so cool, but it was in your music video. Like, and I was so excited how often it was in your music video. I'm like, oh, she's there. She's like in every shot. It was essentially like she was, she was the leading lady. I mean, she was the leading lady. We went on a full date. We did tons of activities together. We went to the movie theater. We went on a picnic. Yep. You had a little date. You were talking to her. I know. Yeah. It was really cute. And it kind of resembles real life, really. Like, like, one. wine has never let me down never never never i was trying to think i'm like even like in times where like i shouldn't have that glass of wine it never disappoints never disappoints and every time you're like should i have another you're gonna have another yeah it has my back always has your back
Starting point is 00:03:10 yes yeah you're so right yes like that's why i call it a her because i feel like she's a friend she's a friend sometimes could be a he but sure sure but i do feel like she just she's just the she's just the one for me. And sometimes she doesn't have to identify what she or she or she or, yeah, she can be whatever she wants. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. Anyway, so I'm so excited to be able to sit down with you and for the first time. We've, I've been excited to sit down and talk to you because I'm like, I'm like a little firecracker who's cute, likes wine and is Canadian. My girl. Are we the same person? We might be. Yeah, we really might be. Somewhere in the lineage. It's like, I wonder if we have mutual friends. I bet we do. Um, how old are you? 28. Okay. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:03:50 28. Okay. How old are you? 34. Okay. Do you know Trevor Partlow? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's like the only person for Victoria. I know. What about like Shane Athau? No. Just kidding. Yes are like the only two I could think of. Really on and around there and a video. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Just kidding. That's like I always make fun of people who like they're from the States and they know one person in Canada. I know. And they go, oh, you're from Canada. You know Mike? I'm like, I'm really? Dude, there's 33 million people in Canada.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah. There's a lot of mics. Yeah. My dad's a mic. There's a lot of Mike. What? Your dad's a Mike too. My dad's a mic too.
Starting point is 00:04:25 What's your mom's name? Mary. Oh, Leslie. That would get weird. That would get weird. Mike and Mary. I love it. Hey, Vinos.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We'll get back to the podcast in a minute, but first I want to tell you about a new game I've been pretty obsessed with lately. You know, I always love to have my phone with me everywhere I go. But actually, though, never leaves my sight. Kind of a problem. I'm keeping track of my schedule, my emails, friends and family. But then there comes a time when I just need to get it. away from all the business of life and take a little break. I'm going to share with you a little secret because when I have downtime and I want a minute to myself, I grab my phone for a quick game of
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Starting point is 00:05:55 describe your music as bold energetic and indie fun cool yes so tell me more about what people can expect when they listen to your music and how you want people to feel when they listen what a great question so I feel like my music is very much uh we're going all the way up I feel like if I was a drug I'm an amphetamine like I just want to make the world a more joyful yeah pumped up positive place love it I do get sad sometimes and have some sad songs but in a show I just want people to go yeah just all the way up all the way up I want to wear little crop tops shake my booty a little and oh my god you are me
Starting point is 00:06:29 I'm like I love getting turnt wearing crop tops and shaking my booty that's just what I love to do yeah 100% and for so long I made music that was you know I liked it and I identified with it but I feel like as I've kind of gotten more comfortable in my own skin yeah I'm just loving more sharing a more positive uplifting message let me guess it happened at the age of 27. Yeah. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:06:53 All of a sudden you crash that threshold where you're like, I don't know if I give a, what anyone thinks about me anymore. You can swear on this podcast. Okay, great. I don't know if I give a shit what people think about me anymore. And it's such a relief. Yeah. And you still like, you give a shit about the right people.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah. And what they think about you. Of course. But you start letting go of the people who don't matter. 100%. And I feel like music or, I mean, in any career, you're so looking for other people's approval all at the time when really. when really the way you win the biggest is if you just be yourself.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And people say that all the time. And I don't know why it's such a hard concept. But people tell you that all the time, the people that have experienced it in the successful ones. And they're like the second that I, you know, like got rid of negative energy. And the second I believed in myself. And the second I got to know myself, that's when certain things started really falling into place for me.
Starting point is 00:07:40 100%. 100%. Because I think that confidence, people, everybody wants to feel that way. Yeah. So it took me a long time to figure that out. And I'm still just all the press of the. figuring it out yeah you'll i mean i think we all figure it out for the rest of our lives it just gets easier and better and sometimes you go through hard times but you figure it out and you deal with things
Starting point is 00:07:57 better the older you get i think so you have better coping skills and you couldn't pay me i'm so grateful for my early 20s but i don't need there's no cash bag of money yeah you could give me to go back and experience all that shit jason said the other night he was like ah to be 21 again i was like no oh no i would i would never want to go back to being 21 i was the most lost human being on the planet and didn't even know how lost I was oh no like I thought I was killing it but you probably were at the time no okay I was a face of shit yeah I was a complete degenerate like just so lost I was selfish yep I mean which is that can be a good thing but I was selfish in a bad way I just didn't know what the hell I was doing and I didn't care that I didn't know what I was doing yeah I mean that's fine
Starting point is 00:08:43 too because that if you don't learn through that right you don't become who you are but that's exactly right. But like 25 before 25, I'm like, let's just black that out. Let's delete it from the internet. Sayanara. Have a nice life. Yep. Yep. Yep. Good riddens. Good ridden. So what do you think was the biggest challenge in your 20s to get you to where you are today? You know, I think like I've always been a big dreamer and I've always wanted to make music happen so badly. And I think when I was clinging to it for the wrong reasons, because I was so desperate to make it all happen and it was really like well you're just going to keep failing if you keep doing it like this and i did but yet kept waking up every day being like my dreams are still i still got to make him happen right and then and then when i started doing it for me it all just felt a lot better
Starting point is 00:09:26 okay you know you when you did it for you yeah yeah because it's a dream it's not like anyone's no one is no one is forcing me out the door to go do these kinds of things it's like no you really got to love it and own it for yourself and have you always loved music since you were little dude i don't remember a day when i didn't see like a stage on my horizon like when i was three or four i used to sit at the piano and i would like write little lyrics on a piece of construction paper and i fold them and i put them in a bookshelf and my dad would find them and he'd read them and go him these are really good like you should keep this up and it's just always how i've expressed myself was writing songs oh i love that it was always just really pure and anything that would
Starting point is 00:10:04 happen in my life boys or family or divorce or whatever yeah it's how i processed life you wrote everything, wrote a minute into a song? Yeah. Do you write journals, too, and stuff, or do you just write it into music? I'm a big journal guy, but I'm also, big journal guy, but also like, think of an idea, hear a song, hear a melody, and just express myself. I wish I could do that. I'm sure you can. Well, I'm, I like writing things down and I like looking back on after like, like, I like keeping things that I've written down and looking back on them. I don't do it enough. Yeah. And I, I mean, I have friends in the songwriting circle here and I've written songs, and I love to hear these songs.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Oh, I'll show you. And I love, love, love doing it. Yeah. But it's just more of like, I don't know how to put it into a song. I can write down feelings and express myself through words, but I need other songwriters to help me put that into a song. But isn't that the beautiful part of co-writing, though, is you can come with your feelings and your ideas and then someone else can jump in and help you with the melody or
Starting point is 00:11:00 whatever. Exactly. And I love just sitting down with people. And it feels like such a safe place in a songwriting. session like it feels like I can talk to people about my feelings and what I've been through and they like songwriters see it as like a beautiful story no matter how it is so true and then I just I always feel so liberated after I come out of a session like I dread it because I'm like am I like do I know what I'm doing am I going to add value to this session or to you know and then I come out of it being
Starting point is 00:11:27 like I'm a bad bitch I but I feel I still feel mad anxiety especially if I don't know them or I'm nervous like how's this going to go yeah and then And the second people get vulnerable, I'd like, you become a bit of a vulnerability junkie where you're like, tell me how you feel. I know. Tell me how you feel. Tell me your feelings. I'm totally the same way.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I am a vulnerability junkie. Because it just feels so good to share your truth and then hearing other people share it. And that's why the songwriting community is so beautiful. Yeah. Because it's a bunch of people who are like, give me that heart, girl. Totally. Yeah. Everybody's about their feelings.
Starting point is 00:11:58 That's what I feel so lucky just because my boyfriend is the same way, which I've never really had that in my life until him. Yeah. And it's like, I can't believe. how much anxiety is like gone in my life just from being able to talk to somebody else who's vulnerable and who understands and listens and talks about their insecurities and feelings and like it's the healthiest thing in the world and the more people that realize that talking about things like the world will be a better place when we can all share our feelings yeah 100
Starting point is 00:12:26 because it was you know that's come a long way since I mean when our parents were young and stuff like you did not everybody was healthy you bottle it up yeah yeah whip it under the rug yeah And you just, everybody's happy, go lucky, perfect. And then, you know, that's just never going to work for anybody. It's not. And I feel like, too, when I started going to therapy, that's when my whole life started to change. Same.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Because I was like, man, I got a lot of anxiety. I got a lot of weird feelings. And then as I've been able to share them, I just feel like a light, I feel so much lighter. Yeah, absolutely. And the relationships around, you start to change. Your family, like, at first is like a little bit suspicious about the therapy and threatened by the therapy.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And now they're like, we love Emily again. I know. That happened to me when I was just so lost in life. I started going to therapy. And everyone was, my family and friends were telling me, like, Caitlin, we don't even know who you are anymore. Like, I was a lost soul at one point in my life. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Wow. From a breakup, like. Dude, but that'll spiral you. If you have identity in that relationship and. But that's what the problem was I lost my identity in the relationship. Yeah. And I think it's like a feeling of when you go through breakup, you know, it's, it's loss. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And it's lost, but that person's still out there living. I know. And you would just wish they were not. I'm like, I just wish you like disappeared. Like I still want, well, like I don't want you to die, but I want you out of like the world. 100%. Just go live on Mars and never date anyone that I could see on Instagram. Okay, thanks.
Starting point is 00:13:50 100%. And I feel like that first, that the first big breakup, half of it is falling back in love with yourself. Oh, because you just lose everything you are. Do you, are you able to look at situations when bad things happen or heartbreaking things or are you able to see it as oh this is going to be a good song or is yeah yeah it's you kind it's a bit sadistic where you're like friends are going through stuff and they'll say something and you're like I hate this but that's going to be a beautiful song and when you're in like a terrible turmoil time of your life you're like but at least the music is going to be interesting it's so true
Starting point is 00:14:23 like Carly Pierce wrote that song every little thing yeah yeah and and then when she won that award for it she like thanked her ex so badass oh it was the best because it like got her this hit song I still get goosebumps every time and now she's written a song and called I hope you're happy now yeah I haven't heard it yet I I haven't yet either I just have been seen on her Instagram yeah yeah yeah and I know her voice is so powerful and so when I know that she's writing the song like she genuinely hopes this person is happy now I just thought that was such a that's beautiful that is so beautiful good girl there's so many things we can write about and I just I think it's so cool that you've just chased this dream for so long and and like how
Starting point is 00:15:01 long have you been in Nashville now I've been in Nashville eight years you have yes so I grew up in Victoria and I moved to Nashville and I was, I guess, 17. Yeah. Here for four years and then I moved to Toronto for a couple. Oh, did you? You moved here for college, didn't you? Yeah. Went to college here and then obviously got kicked out because of the V's. You know, they were like, buy sign or have a nice life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, where in Canada could I pursue music? So I moved to Toronto. Yes. And then I signed a publishing deal in 2013 and moved back down. Oh, amazing. So it's been a great. I love Nashville. Nashville. Nashville does really, really feel like home to me. I love Nashville too. It's a great city. There's so many cool people and talented people.
Starting point is 00:15:35 There's a lot of douchebags. A lot of really great people too. I think net positive. More non-dush-bakes than douchebanks. Totally. Yeah. I just like, I guess it's all about where you hang out. I haven't, like, gone out out and in the scene for a long time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And I did this weekend. And it just reminded me of like all the terrible people and why I don't go to these places. And also, I went out this weekend and I was like, if I let myself, I could become a full-blown, raging alcoholic. Oh, absolutely. Like the down. It's a lifestyle. Yeah. We had friends in town.
Starting point is 00:16:05 and went to the honky tongs and I was like it's 5 p.m. and I am wasted. That's the problem. We keep having friends and family and people coming to town and what does everybody want to do when they come to Nashville. You have to show them the hockey tongues. The honky tongs. And then you just get lit up at any time of the day
Starting point is 00:16:22 and it's acceptable. 100%. We did that all weekend. I feel like I'm finally learning the lesson of pacing though where you're like, don't stay at one. If the band's rocking, stay like for maybe four or five songs and then you need to keep. Switch locations. You need to get. step in you need to keep that heart rate up i agree i could be feeling like i'm like i'm about a
Starting point is 00:16:41 seven out of ten right now and then all you need is a little walk around the block go to another place a little change of pace yep and then you're good to go again and then you're good to go tequila shots i saw one too many of those this weekend yeah as did i where did you go we went to we went to okay started at i love fGL house oh me too the music is great great yeah yeah love fgill house and then we went to honky tongue central yeah of course then we went to old red Yeah. Then we went to Roberts. Yeah. Then we went to Tutsis.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Oh. And then we went to Clydes on church, which is like a ping pong bar. And we were playing ping pong just like so. Okay, I need to add that one to my list. Clydes is banging. Really? Yeah, it's amazing. I love cries.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I love anywhere that has games. Me too. Like Cuffo-Cuffo? Kung Fu, I like because they have ski ball. I love ski ball. Ski ball's great. Jason always makes fun of me because I only go for the hundreds. He's like, he's like, why don't you just like add up?
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's right there. I'm like, nope, 100. And I have this like technique where I like. I almost hit the hundred every time. Do you really? Yeah, I'm good. That's super impressive. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Thank you. I know. Thank you. I know. I crush ski mom. That's so funny. But yeah, I mean, being here for eight years as well, you're probably like over that scene. But it's fun once in a while.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Once in a while, once every few months when a friend comes to town. And my dad, he loves Tutsies. I'm talking he goes by himself when he comes. And he'll send me texts that say, and I'm officially part of the honky talk family. And I'm like, I don't think that's a thing. I think it's just because he tipped them 20 bucks to play devil one down in Georgia and he's like, I belong here now. This is my family. This is my home now.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yeah, I belong here. I'm like, Dad, you can go by yourself. That's so funny. I love that. My dad loves it here too. My dad's dad was a musician. Oh, no way. That's right ass.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And so my dad, my dad and I like bond over music. Like we always, anytime he's here, we go listen to live music. He always shows me. He's so cute. He always wants to pull up YouTube videos of like his new favorite song and we like watch it. And he just, he loves music. that's so sweet yeah yeah so we do a lot he actually came um which this is so fascinating but um i went through a really obviously public breakup from being on the show and um i had my dad fly down to be with me
Starting point is 00:18:48 because he's just a very comforting human being and i was just like not well and um i was like you know i just i want i don't want to sit in bed and cry i want to go do things and i want to get stuff done so that he came down and the day that then the people announcement came out that we broke up i was in a studio recording a song and my dad was there with me and he just stood in a corner like taking so many photos and he was so proud of me
Starting point is 00:19:14 and then we went and I interviewed Kane Brown for my podcast and my dad was like good for you you know you could have just stayed in bed and blah but you got out there and I honestly broke down at least five times like I'd be like I'm going to go to the bathroom for a second I'll be right back I go to the bathroom just like
Starting point is 00:19:29 and then I just pick myself back up and go back in and oh but having you your dad there to have your back that's so so beautiful yeah daddy daughter heartbreak boot camp just like oh my my dad has done that every time really he like i'll call him it's ended yep he's on a plane isn't that so sweet to have that relationship for your dad i'm like because you're their little girl do you have brothers or sisters i have all brothers oh you do oh that and then there's that too yeah you're just the little girl oh you're like the little princess yeah oh and that's another
Starting point is 00:20:00 reason you're probably so cool oh i feel like girls who have brothers who have brothers are always like chill but it's also because you got the ever living shit beat out of you as a kid yeah you got teased roughed up oh my they were so god love them now and they have apologized for their behavior but it was like i and i had really big teeth oh i still do me too but i hadn't grown into my head yet my face or whatever and i would eat food at the dinner table and every night it was the jaws theme song done it done it until i cried and left and this happened for years that's so sad i hate them but i love them so much now. Of course. My mom grew with three brothers. Did she really? And she used to have to
Starting point is 00:20:38 spit on her own food so that they didn't eat it off her plate. Why her brother's so nasty. They're so nasty. But they like really like build your character. Dude, you just have to become so tough because your own home is like a war zone. You're like, oh no survive. You have to survive. And they all ate a lot of food. So it was like, I always wanted to have my own. So we'd go for sushi and I wanted my own bento box because then they couldn't, we couldn't chair. Then they made fun of me for loving bento boxes. And I was like, They just found anything that you did to suck it up in your bento boxes
Starting point is 00:21:09 I'm like but I love it It was awful I had one sister And what you have a sister? Yeah Oh are you close? Oh yeah really close Yeah I just
Starting point is 00:21:17 And she We have very similar personalities And she's hilarious And I kind of feel like she had like Brother energy growing up I love that Yeah like we weren't We never played with Barbies
Starting point is 00:21:28 We played with dolls We had dolls but like we wanted to like Take care of them like they were children Like we didn't play with Barbie Yeah. Oh, that's so sweet. But we weren't really like, yeah. I mean, we dressed girly, girly, but we weren't.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Were you more of a tomboy from having brothers or were you girly? I was, I think kind of in the middle. I feel now not very girly, but I still, I like like like hanging with my girls. Yeah. But I always feel like the least good one at makeup or hair or any of that stuff. I'm like, can somebody help me? Oh, really? When you came in, I was like, oh, she's got cute hair makeup.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Oh, you're so sweet. Maybe it was the crop top. I was like, yes, honey. I'm always working at crop. Work. Yes. Hello. Okay, so finding time in our busy lives to work out is impossible and not all of us can afford
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Starting point is 00:24:01 So I started, when I started, when I moved back to Toronto, I started writing for Disney, like, for like spot placements and stuff. Oh, that's cool. And I got this like, um, season, series finale duet. And I was like, oh, shoot, you can make money at this. Like, this is amazing. Yeah. Because I was like bartending, dog walking, hostessing, doing anything I could to make ends
Starting point is 00:24:20 me. Right. And then slowly but surely, I was like, got really into the writing world. And then I made a little EP. and I released it and the Canadian Country Music Association at the time did like a discovery program
Starting point is 00:24:32 for new artists Oh cool And I got in and I met everyone And I was like you know what I think I can do this Yeah And I wanted to more be an artist Than a writer
Starting point is 00:24:41 How old were you at this point? I think I was like 19 1819 Yeah And then obviously it's taking me like 10 years To get to where I am now Well that's a lot of failing A lot of feeling
Starting point is 00:24:53 That's how you get That's how you get to success If you think about it, and I always talk about it this way, is all your failures aren't really failures. No, just stepping stones. Yeah. Yeah. But at the time, they feel like. Of course.
Starting point is 00:25:05 That's probably the hardest, you know, rejection is not easy for anyone. Being told no. Being told you're not good enough. Oh, yeah. I feel like music industry can be really cutthroat too with like even your looks or what your style is or like your lifestyle and like you have to fit this mold. And I think that's changing now. Yeah. But it was probably in your last.
Starting point is 00:25:25 100%. I'd say even, like, I hate to harp on this, but even as a woman, I feel like they're extra critical of your body and your age, your age, all the stuff that is completely irrelevant. Right. So the music you're making. Yeah. But people just love to find little things and just criticize you. Oh, I know, all the time. I mean, I guess that's every industry.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It's just like, I feel like when you're a performer or an entertainer and you're like a vision, you also have to look a certain way, which is so sad. Yeah. And then the trolls on the internet. Oh, they'll get you. Oh, they'll get you. I had one the other day, or I played this show, and someone was like, her music's not very good, but at least she's, at least she's kind of good looking. And I was like, go eat a bag of poo.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, go suck a bag of ass. Go suck a bag of eggs. That's so rude. They just sit, like, so empowered sitting behind their computers. Of course. And it's like you've got this talent and a passion that you're like going after in your life and people just want to crush your dreams. Why do they?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Because they're so mad that they. didn't follow their dreams they're so mad and you're thriving yeah they hurt people hurt people and and happy like I just love when there's like I mean women or men I just love when other people like champion others like you know you're doing what I would love to do good for you you like I wish I could have done that that would be a proper way to say it wouldn't that be nice if there's just a little more love yeah yeah I don't know if it's going to get better or worse in this in our lifetime but I I mean, there's hope. There's hope.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And all you can do is control your own body and self. I always laughed because just the other day, actually, somebody wrote some really nasty comments on my picture. Like, what do they say? Oh, let me see if I can't pull it up. No, it's funny. It's funny. It's fun. Well, here's the thing is I find it funny to read some of these.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Some of them hurt, but some of them I can really laugh at. Which kind of sting? Like, what gets you? Um, if anyone comments on my weight. Just because I've been teased for being so skinny my whole life. And when people tell me I look ill or sick, it really gets to me. Which is rude, though. It's just so rude.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I used to get teased so badly. And, like, people, all these guys would always tell me I'd be hot if I wasn't so scrawny and that they could use me for their dogs throwing stick. What? Yeah, I always got to. I know. Okay, so here's the comment. Ew, you are so trashy. I could never figure out how Sean could date someone who publicly had sex.
Starting point is 00:27:54 but said they loved him just like the next guy after Sean you're deeply in love with and just like in love but like no one else before on bachelorette like she's not even making sense um it's a full run on sentence like what do you even do besides being drunk yeah and then people were backing her up are you so usually usually my followers which all they did they i mean there's like screw you i'm like trying to get through all the comments of people being like you were so pathetic but then this girl goes yeah she's 35 and still trying to be 18 and cool
Starting point is 00:28:27 she's trying way too hard um are you and then they go I know it's weird like she has this cult following over scrunchies like people are amazed with her but she's odd what yeah and then she's just like going off
Starting point is 00:28:43 calling me like trashy and pathetic um did you hop in there and call her out no so then And everyone else, Jason was like, why don't you delete that, block that person? I'm like, yeah, right. She's like, she's getting my, um, me of the interactions up like, you know, I'm like, she follows me.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I don't want to block her. That's an extra follower. I can't followers. Like, you know, it's great. Let her bitch at me on Instagram because in 10 years, I won't have haters. No. I'll be out of the biz, you know, like, you know, like, you know, I'm at a point and are out of the biz.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Let me have my moment where I'm like, I, you know, I'm at a point where I've haters. Let's celebrate the haters So, and they're all like You know Their names like CK 81, 2, 3, 4 Like with like 100 followers They're nobody Yeah, they're nobody
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah So if they can't appreciate a good scrunchy I have no time for them No time No time I'm like a cult following No, it's a bunch of women passionate about scrunchies
Starting point is 00:29:39 Back off Back off It's just Do you get a lot of haters? Well I'm not, I'm like still on the come up And just no Can I give you advice? Please.
Starting point is 00:29:49 when you get haters just feel like you've made it okay just know that like I'm gonna wear a shirt that says that I have haters therefore I've made it yes yes but I do feel I've never like that one comment about her music sex but at least she's kind of good looking I was like you know what
Starting point is 00:30:04 you're like you're right I am cute or I get a lot of or there was another show I played and it was like Emily read who who is this girl who who who why this is a terrible idea and you're like one day you'll regret that people do that to everybody I always look at like people and us weekly and all their Instagrams no matter who is up there the first nastiest comments are who and you're like well obviously some people know them if they're on people
Starting point is 00:30:30 you dumbass joy joy it's so weird like people it's like their favorite thing to do is who no one cares it's like well then why are you following this account that always puts up people from anywhere from reality world to the music world to like huge stars just because they're not brad pit you You don't have to go who. Google them, you idiot. You obviously care. Yeah. If you care enough to go who, you care.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, you care a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah. And we'll take it. Yeah, it happens all the time. Bachelor people, it's always like, who? Like, okay, they're from the Bachelor world.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Like, a lot of people do know, but it doesn't matter. Like, who are you? Exactly. And, like, the Bachelor world is, it's a pretty dope world. Oh, I stand. I am here for it. Yeah. We're all here for it.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Like, every year I try and say, like, I don't know if I can do it anymore. And then I'm like, Peter is going to be the Bachelor? Oh, my gosh. Bachelor in Paradise? It's everybody's favorite. It's my guilty pledge. I, like, look forward to it. And thankfully, it's on twice a week.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah. And I'm sitting there, I'll drink my spade and sparrows, and I'm like, I am a part of the Bachelor of Family. Yeah, you're damn right, you are. This means a lot to me. You're on Off the Vine podcast, drinking Spade and Sparrows, watching Bachelor in Paradise. You're in. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You are hashtag Bachelor family. I matter now. But you're Bachelor Nation. I'm Bachelor Nation. Oh, my God. I've loved it for. And guess what? Part of being Bachelor Nation, then you can have those followers and fans with your music. And there, I mean, there's a lot of assholes, but there are a lot of loyal, very great people who are in the Bachelor Nation world. Yeah, they just love it. Because you, how can you not? Yeah. You're watching these people fumble and also thrive. And which is so relatable. It's so relatable. You're watching them do all of what you would do in real life on TV. Oh, and I just think for you, like, the fact that you got to date all those.
Starting point is 00:32:18 dudes at once yeah it sounds great it wasn't it was fun for like the first two weeks and then i was like oh my god guys have more drama than girls it was it was just overwhelming a because there were so many of them oh you said hey oh yeah it was like i'm at home we are uh but yeah it was like fun for a while and then you're just constantly hurting people's feelings and that's tough to let a bunch of people down always i always say though i'm like if my boyfriend and i ever broke up which i just pray to the sweet sweet lord i just love him so much it has to work out it has to work out but if I was ever single again you'd go on the bachelor well or I'd want to live my life that way I would just want to be like let's just date everybody yeah see what happens I'm not gonna lie I'm glad I did it for that reason where I'm like like now I just like even was it last night when my girlfriends was talking about no no no it was this guy one of Jason's friends kissed one of my friends and it was like a thing and I was like oh my gosh how was it and he was like well it was really light out so it was weird and I didn't know if she was like into it and then now we're like trying to decide if we're going to tuck in that.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I was like, I'm so glad I'm not in that anymore. Like, it's always sound so fun until you're in it. And then you're like, wait, that's really awkward.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I know. And then I feel like once you find the right person, you're like, oh, yeah. We'll be right back with more Austin Vine, Grape Therapy.
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Starting point is 00:34:02 This is Austin Vine, Grape Therapy. Tell me about your boyfriend. He is, oh, the goziest, sweetest dude ever. We've been together almost three years. He's a music producer. The only thing bad about him is he lives in California. Oh, damn it. We've been doing long distance for almost three years.
Starting point is 00:34:18 years. Holy shit. But he is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me. He's like, I feel very like, I'm like a woo, tornado her. Are you a Gemini? I'm a Virgo, but it makes no sense. Okay. I'm like this.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah. And he is like, well, people can't see you. Oh. He is like cool as a cucumber. That's us. He's kind. He's mellow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 He's genuine. He's so in touch with his feelings. I love that. And he's just, yeah, that's Jason. So, and I'm the same way as you, peaks and valleys. Pikes and valleys. peaks and valleys like roller coaster you wake up and you're not 100% sure what you're gonna get it's usually positive i'm like very much a sunny side gal i'm always ready to rip good time gal yeah but when i dip
Starting point is 00:34:58 i zip i zip hard that is so me jason said the other day um he was like you're kind of like a glass half empty kind of person and i was like oh no i'm not i'm not and i said sometimes i can be about certain things and yes i might wake up on my period one day and definitely glass half empty oh yeah well then but like three weeks out of the month I'm like happy go lucky 100% yeah and I wasn't oh this is kind of rude to say but I'm gonna say I wasn't like that in my last relationship you weren't hey no yeah I was pretty um I was on eggshells all the time even for myself like I just wasn't confident in the relationship I was scared I was insecure yeah I was like didn't know what mood I was gonna be in now I'm like
Starting point is 00:35:38 what are you talking about I'm like really happy three weeks out of the month and then in that like one PMS period week like yeah I'm the devil Yeah, but who isn't? No, we all are. You know, it's just like that period once becomes, and I am. I'm out. Oh, you should. Okay, I praise Jason, and I feel like your boyfriend would be the same way because he literally
Starting point is 00:35:57 looked at me the other day and I was like, sorry, I'm like, it's that time. I'm so weird right now. And he goes, just tell me what I can do in the week that you have your period. Just tell me what I can do to make it better. Oh, my gosh. And I was like, you sweet, sweet angel. Just marry him, you know, you have to. I will.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah, 100%. Kyle, you still. to, in the beginning of a relationship when I'd get period, my period, he would send me, like, an Amazon Prime care package, candles, you know, peanut butter, all my favorite shit. And I was just like...
Starting point is 00:36:29 It goes such a long way. Like, it goes so far for that. Because sometimes all you need is a little candle and a bubble bath. That's all I need. And I still might feel emotional, but at least him in a feel more centered. I totally feel that. Yeah. It's so great when you have someone that can understand. And I'm like, does your, does your boyfriend
Starting point is 00:36:45 have sisters? He doesn't, but he's He's just, he's just in, he, I think he's got a really good mom. Yeah. And they're really tight and she raised him so well. Yes. And he's right there in his heart. Like so in touch with his feelings, more than any guy I've ever dated or even ever met, really. Same zies.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He's so comfortable crying, so comfortable with his vulnerability. Like, Jason cried last night at dinner because. Stop. Wait, wait, this is the funniest reason. So I went to get my hair done a little while ago. And I, um, this is really interesting. But so growing up, my mom put a lot of emphasis on her hair. Was she a hairstylist?
Starting point is 00:37:22 No, no, no. She was just like, I think she just loved having girls and she grew up with three boys. And I think she just, like, loved that kind of thing. Yeah. And so she was like the best mom ever, but she put a lot of emphasis on our hair. And I don't even think she realized she was doing it. Of course. And so we always had like very long, done hair, bows, the whole works and matching hairstyles.
Starting point is 00:37:44 and growing up I wanted to like well I want to cut my hair I want to do this I want to bleach it and she was just like devastated at any time yeah so for some reason that has stuck with me in my adult life where I am triggered by hair and so I go to get my hair done and you could do the best job ever and I'll come home and cry oh and so I came home and Jason was like oh my god your hair looks amazing and I was hyperventilating crying saying I feel ugly I feel ugly and I lay down on on the bed and I was crying and he but I was holding onto this little bag and he was like what's in the bag and I was like well my hair status like told me that the shampoo was a good shampoo and and and he was just trying to like sell me on the shampoo so I wanted to help him and and then he just so he was telling me that last night at dinner he got like choked up and as I started water and he was like it was just so pure and sweet that like you were crying so hard and you were so devastated about your hair but you still had this little brown paper bag in your hand with this shampoo conditioner
Starting point is 00:38:48 that he told you to buy and you like still wanted to help him and like like you did and he was crying about that he got so emotional and I and then I was like oh my god I didn't even think about that he's like he's like he goes you're just so sweet that you wanted to make him happy like make him feel like he didn't do anything wrong so you like tips him and bought the shampoo he suggested even though you like couldn't wait to get out of there to like hyperventilate and cry oh my god but it's just It's so sad because I'm like, it's freaking hair. What am I doing? Whatever happens along the way, we all get a little bit messed up.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah, you're right. You know, I think, like, weight from your mom or your dad can always just become a bit of an issue. However, they look at themselves, you start to look at yourself like that. Totally. And it's just breaking down those cycles. Especially I grew up in a ballet studio. Oh, yeah. So it was just, I mean, I am really lucky for, I have pretty, pretty good body positivity, self-esteem.
Starting point is 00:39:40 That's so good. But it also took a lot of years of me working on that. 100% And making that active choice Because most of the time It's like You look in the mirror And you're like
Starting point is 00:39:48 But I assume that's the same thing In the music industry You know? Like everybody probably compares themselves 100% And it's like like Like we said earlier You're being told
Starting point is 00:39:58 Like you should look a certain way And the horrible The T word Like I remember there was a couple Time trainer When they were like Oh you need to get a trainer They say that to you
Starting point is 00:40:08 That's happened twice But the second time I started working out With this girl Erin Aprea and she changed once I fell in love with working out like that and we do all these like hit routines I walk a lot I feel so much healthier do you know my relationship with her no oh we used to travel all the states together doing yeah oh with Sean yeah yes yes she actually reached out recently to me and told me that she was just she's like you just look so happy and you seem so happy oh she's amazing yeah so she actually used to train me and did you like it yes because she is very empowering so empowered and she's about just like you know muscles are pretty and being strong is is what's you know yeah important and who cares about the other things like she is yeah she's really good for that she's so good for that and so good for your mental health because it was you know
Starting point is 00:41:00 you like 80 20 eat well and you're gonna slip up have a donut yeah hell yeah she loves donuts she loves them yeah who does that's so funny yeah we used to tour and do the city strong um workouts with her so yeah yeah yeah i know her very well change change my life Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. It feels good to feel good. Yeah. But then someone will start going like, well, Emily has or you have apps now or you have this
Starting point is 00:41:21 now and you're like, oh, I got to keep that up. I can't not. You know what I mean? Oh, do people call you Emma? Emily. Yeah. Oh, okay. Or they'll look at me and go, oh, she's going to have snow.
Starting point is 00:41:28 And I'm like, oh, then I feel pressure. I keep them up. But then, you know, you want to eat a full pizza. Oh, it's. I agree with you. Yeah. I have been gaining weight in the last two. Well, let's say eight months because since I met Jason, I feel like happiness just does so many.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And don't you want to go out to eat together all the time? I love it. Pasta. Bread. I was just saying on my last podcast. We went out for a pasta dinner last night, and I came home and we ordered Chinese food. You are my literal human hero. What kind of Chinese food did you get?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh, we got like low main, fried rice, spring rolls, and then like snow peas to feel a little bit better about our soul. Just one snow pee. Just a couple snow peas. Yeah. Just a little snowpie on top. Just to add some green. to the disgusting mess that we are yeah i love it yeah it was delicious that's my dream night yeah dinner number one dinner number two yeah or that drive-thru taco bell on the way home i do you i postmates
Starting point is 00:42:24 taco bell in my house all the time she's ready to crunch like just down the house do you know what i love is just a good well i don't eat meat okay so i love a good black bean crunchy taco they're amazing with all of the toppings she and when they bring it in i add more i've got like like i'll I'll have a cutting board ready when the Taco Bell gets there. I've chopped up, like, jalapinos, all the works. And you do that at home. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah. Because Taco Bell kind of like cheaps out on the, like, they're like, oh, let me put eight, like, little strings of lettuce on. And then like a couple things of cheese. 100%. Like maybe one tomato. Oh. So I just have it ready to load up. Have you ever had the spicy potato soft taco?
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yes. It's unbelievable. Just had it the other day, actually. Oh, heck yeah, girl. Yeah. Of course. I just, two days ago. actually was it lunch dinner breakfast breakfast i woke up in the morning after like um a night
Starting point is 00:43:18 out with jason and his friend from new york and it was 1102 and i message them there upstairs and i said anybody want to put an order in for taco bell and you postmated it to the house yeah oh my god yeah we need to hang out that doesn't like a dream hey honestly it's i it's living my best life when i when i wake up i don't have anything to do but order taco bell that's just you're living your freaking dream i really am And Diet Pepsi is everything. Are you a type Pepsi gal? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I know. I'm a minority. It's everybody likes Coke. Coke. Coke Zero. Yeah. Oh, Coke Zero is your thing. I like it.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I don't drink it all the time, but I do like it. I'm, is ramen in here? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I just realized for two seconds, I'm like, holy shit, is the dog in here and not making noise? The dog has been patiently napping this entire time. Oh, he's just being a little angel.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But yeah. He's such a good dog. I feel like a lot of, a lot of people are Coke. Is this the topic we're still? Yeah, Coke and type of. But I have been like Diet Pepsi since I was little. My mom, my sister, my dad and I would all get in their king-sized bed on Fridays and watch TGIF and have licorice popcorn and diet Pepsi. And it was like, so I think it's probably nostalgic for me.
Starting point is 00:44:24 That's so nostalgic. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably what it is. Oh my gosh. Your family looks so amazing when you guys play all those card games together. They're so fun. But that feels very Canadian to me.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I don't know if you feel this way. Yeah. Like I don't know. I don't know this, but I feel like most Canadian families, you get together and you play card games. Yeah. No, no, it must be a thing. Or board games or whatever, and you drink and play. My last relationship was not about the games.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Jason's Buffalo, so he's kind of like an honorary Canadian. His family is all about the card games and games and board games and everything. Yeah, it's, I'm like that, like, that to me, all I need in life is wine, family, and like board games, monopoly. 100%. Yeah. That's literally. Okay. And friends.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Okay, and a dog. And a dog. But still, that's a great top five. Yeah. Do you know what your enneagram number is? Three. You're a three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:16 What are you? I'm a seven. Which is the seven? The enthusiast. That's Jason. Is he? Yeah. Three sevens have a great relationship dynamic.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yes. Yes. And my boyfriend's four. He's like more of an individualist, but he wings three. So we're like, everyone's in the same. We're ripping it. Oh, yeah. The seven is good vibes.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So is a three. I actually love sevens. Three, I'm like, you can go into a very nasty place of the three. Well, I guess you can with all numbers. Everyone can go nasty. But, yes, I'm definitely, I'm definitely a three. Are you really? Yeah, I'm like an overachiever.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Like, that's, but that's great, though, I think. I think, like, healthy threes. Healthy. Healthy threes are like, they change the worlds because they're so ambitious. Yes. And sevens are just right along. They're like, woo-hoo! Yes, go!
Starting point is 00:45:59 You go, girls! You guys do have good energy. Oh, can't help it. Like, my second older brother is also a seven. Uh-huh. And he literally has so much energy. He runs ultra-marathon. Like, we both wake up in the morning
Starting point is 00:46:10 And it's just like, Zoom Have you ever seen that commercial with the With the camel And he's walking through the office And he's going, Mike, Mike, Mike, you ever know what day it is? It's hump day. And he's like, I'll pump that it's Wednesday. My mom and Jason have a handshake
Starting point is 00:46:26 That like goes like this. And then they go hump day. Because that is like this camel is Jason So the camel is also you. Oh, I love the camel. I'm going to pull it up for you. Please. I feel like I resonate with that so much.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I'm going to pull it up for you because you are the hump day camel. I feel like I'm a big water cooler guy. Like I love at my publishing company, there's like a water cooler, and I would be happy to not write a song, and I would just want to sit there and do finger guns and just chum it up with everyone at the company. I just love a chat.
Starting point is 00:46:55 That's amazing. You are Jason. Okay, listen. Uh-oh, guess what day it is? Guess what day it is. Huh? Anybody? Julie, hey, guess what day it is?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Oh, come on, I know you can hear me. Oh, my good. Mike, Mike. What day is it, Mike? Listen, guess what today is? It's hump day. Ronnie, how happier folks you save hundreds of dollars. I'd say happier than a camel on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Hump day. That is you guys. I'm putting that into my vocabulary. Okay, good. Just do it on Wednesdays to be like, Hope day. I feel like we should talk about your debut single here before we get, like, lost. in hump days um so good time being a woman yes such a fun song thank you thank you what inspired
Starting point is 00:47:43 you to write it so this was a song that case so i write like pretty often five days a week and this oh wow good for you this was one of those days where i was like you know i had been feeling pretty insecure lately in that season of my life and i was a little bit the conversation about women on radio i feel like it's getting tired like totally they don't play them we get it yeah and i was sitting in the room that day and i was like i just want to feel good yeah for me i want to feel like it's a good time a woman whether or not other people feel this way I need this for me and I was like I wanted to feel like a tears for fears like absolute bibbidi-bop I want to roll the windows down and rip it yeah and then we wrote it in like three hours and afterwards my boyfriend came in
Starting point is 00:48:20 and he was like I think this I think this is a lot better than you think it is and then we sat on it for a couple days and I was like this is exactly it was a bold for a single because being a woman talking about being a woman right there was a guy that's what you got to do you got to make waves you got to make waves when we did this radio tour I probably shouldn't say this but he um we played it for him and he literally had his feet on like oh i'm already over it yep feet on the desk and he goes you know i think it's just gonna alienate half my audience no he didn't yeah he's i think it's just gonna i think it's gonna i think it's gonna alienate my mill listeners and i was like what a stupid thing to say i know pissed me right off did you say anything
Starting point is 00:49:01 did you say anything i held it together one time i got up on a radio interview and i just walked the hell out what did they what do they say to you um the lot of apologies but but the only problem is that radio people have a lot of also passionate listeners who get mad at and i get it i get it i get it and it was his his right to say that but this was a bold first single but i just wanted to feel like it was a good time mean woman and the greatest joy is now playing it back and like young girls old women everybody just yeah just fist up into it right right behind you on queens yeah yeah so it's been great oh i love that See, and you know what is a good song without a little controversy?
Starting point is 00:49:38 A hundred percent. Yeah. If it never did anything, great. I just, I needed to share it for me. Good for you. And then follow that up with wine, the most important song to ever exist. I can't believe my wine got to, like, make her first, like, debut. Yeah, and she did such a good job.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And I love that you love it. I love it so much. And then we have another single coming out. That's also about wine. And I got some flack where they were like, you can't have two songs about wine. And I was like, do you know how many of these country boys have so many songs about beer in whiskey. Totally.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I'm going to have as many songs about wine as I so juice. You're like, you know what? Now I'm going to make all of my songs about wine. Just an album dedicated to my favorite juice. Test me. Tets me. I will do it.
Starting point is 00:50:16 That's so funny. What would you say some of your favorite things about being a woman are? What a great question. Favorite things about being a woman. Girlfriends. Yes. Number one. Totally understand you.
Starting point is 00:50:28 They all get behind you. They all get behind you. And there's something about powerful women when you get together. I leave and I'm like, we can. could change the world here. Like, we can make, when we elevate each other, we literally elevate everything. And I don't know if men have that kind of close relationships with their friends. I feel like they do.
Starting point is 00:50:45 They do. It's just different. But I feel like girlfriends are the greatest gift in the world. If you find the right ones. Yeah. There are some sketches. Yeah. I've met a family of all.
Starting point is 00:50:54 A few of those. But a good girlfriend is like, it's life changing. It really is. It is life changing. I also feel this might be heavy. I feel like motherhood's going to be really exciting. Oh, my gosh. You get to, I'm going to be so sad to not drink for nine months.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Like, that's going to be. That's my biggest fear. And it's a, in life. It's a giant fear. Yeah. But, like, making a human and carrying it is like, what the hell? It's a miracle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:18 It's, I think about this all the time. If I see a pregnant woman, I'm like, you are the most beautiful human being I've ever seen in my life. And such a badass. Yeah. You are growing a human in your body. In your body. And the sacrifice you are making.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah. I'm just like, we get to do that. We get to do that. We get to do that. And that is so powerful. I agree. I agree. There's some people that just hate being pregnant
Starting point is 00:51:35 And then there's some people who are just so connected to their pregnancy I'm not sure which way I'm going to go Because I can't tell until I get there But my mom and my sister both loved being pregnant Yes They both loved that boat's well for you Yeah They also didn't get morning sickness
Starting point is 00:51:49 So I'm like please Lord God bless me with that Because my biggest fear in life is throwing up And not drinking for nine months So don't give it to me twice at long That's too much of a sacrifice It's like I'm in a barf and I can't drink Yeah no I can't do it Especially also too making a human with a person you love
Starting point is 00:52:04 oh and then seeing them as a dad oh oh i'm in a bar for my mouth i'm like that with even just seeing jason how he is with a dog i'm like oh god he's the best with kids he's the best he's like everybody's favorite uncle yeah oh he's gonna be so fun but you know it's like i i just feel like that's such a cool part about being a woman yeah no i agree yeah i agree with you that's it's it's just like if you get to the right spot in life and if you are surrounded by the right people the I always use the term empowering and I don't want to overuse it because there's so many
Starting point is 00:52:36 I know totally but to actually feel that feeling around other women and notice it and realize it like I remember I was at this place it was like she no not she factor that's also a really great one
Starting point is 00:52:50 unapologetically her and it was this like room of women talking and I was just like there was like energy that you could feel vibrations yes yeah yeah and it was just so crazy And she said on stage, there's just something that happens when a group of women get together who can actually, like, empower one another. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Securely. It's just like, it is the greatest feeling in the world. Yeah. I also think, too, like, it's such a tribe. Like, when you have each other's back and you're like, I got her back. Totally. It's so amazing. I have that right now.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I finally found a group of girls in Nashville where I'm just like, oh, my God. They are incredible women. You are more than more going to be part of the tribe. Please welcome in. They are. Where did you find? these mystical creatures my my Botox lady shut up yeah do you do skin farm no okay I go to Elizabeth Smith she is a godsend she's a godsend oh yeah and she is all about like she's just
Starting point is 00:53:44 an uplifting human being and she has these a few solid friends and then I had a couple friends and then we all joined together and we are on a group chat and we love each other and we support each other and a couple of them are going through hard times right now and we just like rally oh we rally for each other and it's the best like I look forward you know on group chats can be like a hitter message. You're like, oh, God, if I get one more message. This one, I'm like, I get excited. It gets me out of bed.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I love a good group chat. Yeah. Throw some memes in there. We're in a book club, too. You should join. I want to join. How often do you guys read these books? Once a month.
Starting point is 00:54:17 What are you reading right now? Dark is the new, I mean, black is the new light, which is a... Never heard of it. Is it amazed? People ask me all the time to... What is that book you talk about? What is that book you talk about? We're doing it in our book club.
Starting point is 00:54:28 We're called the dirty bookers. and um and it's like all about signs from the universe and paying attention and going on your own unique path and like how you should follow your heart it's a really great book yeah i'm obsessed um i have a question for you okay please if you had the chance to collaborate with any artists who would be kacey mows graves oh she's my idol i literally worship the ground she walks on i do too i feel like she is not only so beautiful and her music is amazing i just feel like she's a bad bitch like she knows what she wants She gets after it
Starting point is 00:55:01 I just want to be around her Yeah I totally agree She's so honest about who she is too Yeah I remember I saw her once Like seven years ago on stage And I can't remember what sign she is I think she's a Libra
Starting point is 00:55:11 Or a cancer or something And she goes I'm a Libra So you know I'm a bit of a bitch And I was like Yes They're like own it Own it
Starting point is 00:55:18 We own it and we love it She's just flawless Yeah she is cool I really really like her I love her voice It's simple I love her lyrics I love everything she does
Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah Superstar That's awesome Um, okay, so we talked about the fact that you have more than one song about wine. Yep. Um, so let's talk about our mutual love. Yes. Um, tell me why you decided to use spade and sparrows in your new music video.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Oh, what a great question. So I have been, I'm a Caitlin Bristow fan. I have, I have loved you the second you came on the show, because I was like, you're me. I'm you. I love that. And the way you brought, I don't know, life. You brought life into that show. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And you just, you're just a joybringer. And so I went to high school. with a girl who worked with Clio. Oh, no way. Yeah. And I was like, if there is a chance in hell, I was driving in my car and I was like, we need Span Sparrow's.
Starting point is 00:56:06 We need this in our video because I love what you stand for. And I was like, we just need a bridge gap. Yeah. And then the packaging is so cute. Yeah. And it just worked out so perfectly. Oh, I love that. Yeah, huge fan.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And I just, and the wine's maze. Thank you. I'm proud of you. Like, for starting a wine line, that's a big undertaking. Yeah. It took a long time. And the scrunch. It's all that stuff is just like, go for it, girl.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Thank you. It's badass. Oh, I love that. I stand. It's so cool because you like, you know, we all go after, you are going after music killing it. I go after scrunchies and wine. You just got to do what you're passionate about. You're going to do what you're passionate about.
Starting point is 00:56:39 It's so amazing. I love that. Yeah. Well, thank you for saying that and I appreciate it. And I'm honored that it's in your music theater yet. We're working on it. Okay. And we're very close.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Is it in BC? Not yet. Okay. It will be. Yeah. It's so exciting. I am very close. Because I'm getting a lot of requests in the old Canada.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And I'm like, I don't think it's available yet. I know. I feel so bad because all my Canadians are like, excuse me. And I'm like, it's not, it's not you. It's me. Yeah. Just the distribution stuff. It's all just legal stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:09 But we're really working on it. And I think because they've seen the wine doing so well that they're like, okay, we need to have it in Canada. So it's very close. Wow. That's so exciting. So we have to get into confessions. Okay. I need to hear yours.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Okay. Mine already did. It was the Chinese food. after the double pasta, but I already said that of my last podcast so it's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Okay, so my confession, I've thought about this. By the way, I love how you shorten so many words. I can't help it. No, it's the best.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I'm going to steal it. The people say it's a Canadian thing, but I'm like, I don't know if it is. I shouldn't a lot of words. Yeah, it's easier. Just breathe it out. You know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:57:43 It's a confess. Yeah. So we were at the CCMA's Canadian Country Music Awards. Yeah. And I was, they asked me to be a host for sounds like Nashville.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah. Oh. and it was so freaking fun I like love that shit so I'm wearing this pants suit and my titties are taped like Kim Kardashian style Yeah right up there taped as high as possible
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah I'm sweating yeah Doing all these interviews No I look at Taylor who's here She's marketing rep And she goes And I go I think I just got my period
Starting point is 00:58:13 Oh shit On the red carp Just titty sweating I'm just like I am such a hot mess Were you what color was your pantsuit? It was pink It was amazing I love a power suit.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Like we live for a power suit, mom. Me too. And so then we still have to finish out at these interviews. We got like an hour left. And you know when you feel it. And you're like, we're done here. Yep. Devastating.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yep. It always feels a lot more than it is, though. It does. But you're like, I'm panicking. I'm hot. It throws off your whole game. We get to the bathroom. I'm like, I got no supplies.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I'm literally surveying women to get a quarter. Oh, no. To get a pad. Oh, no. And then we had to live out the rest of the night. And I was just like, this is a lot of things stacking up to not to not boat so well. And then the second I got home, I was just like, tape off, PJs on. No more shame, pat off, tap on N.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Here we go. It was great at all. So at least it didn't come through. It didn't come through. Thank the heavenly Lord. Well, yes, but also that would have made for a greater confession. Could you imagine? Just like a full stain in my suit.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah, I've been there. But the suit was too cute. Yeah, that's great. Well, I mean, good for you for not letting it leak through. Thank you. Yeah. That's all the full. blame the flow. That is funny though. I've had a couple period moments where one time I put on
Starting point is 00:59:28 white sweats and I went to leave work and I did a starfish jump to say, Kailon is leaving the building. And my buddy Carson was like, you have a huge period stain going down your pants. And I was like, and we laughed so hard. It was the funny. He was like one of my gay best friends and it was just like a hilarious moment that we still talk about to this day because I was just so confident about star fishing and saying I was leaving the building. Oh my God. Did you feel any shame about the stain or you just rocked it out? Rocked it. Went home and changed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, well, you know, if certain people saw that I wouldn't be so happy about it, but because it was my best friend and we laughed. Like I, I couldn't breathe. I was laughing. Did you know it was coming
Starting point is 01:00:05 out? Absolutely not. Hell yeah. I love that. Didn't I don't know how I didn't feel that or maybe it had happened earlier. I don't know. But it was a moment that we will never forget. Oh my God. I love that. Yeah. Periods are like, it's just, it's a challenge. It's a challenge. It's a a challenge. Every, I mean, I'm 34. I've been getting my period since I was probably 15 and I still can't figure it out. I know. I'm like, I'm not prepared when it happens. I still have to go to the store to buy tampons. I'm always in a rush. I'm still. The amount of pairs of, this is TMI, but the amount of pairs of underwear I have ruined. No, I have period panties where I'm like, oh, they're already ruined. Might as well throw them on. Those are also my spray tannies. Like it's all, it's just, I call them spray tanties. I'm going to start saying that. They're just like filled. It's just ruined. It's disgusting. Yeah. I'm like, these are. got my sexy panties because I still like the spray tan lines I love the spray tan yeah so I use my spray tanties with that are also my period panties oh my god also can we talk about this spray tan is like well I love I actually like this one what I don't mind it sounds like dead skin I don't mind it I guess the amount of confidence the spray I'm like I go from a six to an eight real quick real quick
Starting point is 01:01:09 yeah I'm like did I just glow up and me it's yeah so much so now that I'm like I kind of want to have one every two weeks for self-care I do do you yeah every two weeks Every two weeks I will always have it. You will never see me. Who do you get? But I go to freaking Sundance City. Hell yeah, girl. Or Anastasia. I don't know how you pronounce.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Or is it Anastasia. I don't know. I don't know. But I love them. And I love her. I should know how to say that. Yeah. But she is amazing.
Starting point is 01:01:31 She's amazing. Her spray tans are amazing. They're all organic, like, whatever. But the only thing is, well, she comes to my house sometimes. But it's just like a sudan city is right around the corner. I know. And you can just get in there and rip it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:42 There's this girl, Chelsea, beautifully, bronze. she comes to my she comes to my house oh give me her contact i'll give you in and out in 15 minutes she's like the nicest girl and i feel like my tan is just pop in but i think i'm gonna up it up it i want to up it if you're doing it every two weeks i'm doing it oh i do it every two weeks without okay how long does yours last i am really good at keeping it about 10 days do you shower alive no me neither i do not i will say i will have one good shower i will exploit the shit out of my whole body yes and then i will go for the spray tan and then i won't shower and then the next day I lather and lotion.
Starting point is 01:02:17 So much lotion. And then I'll try and do like another day and then I'll shower and then again so much lotion. Yeah. Yeah. So much lotion. I'm so passionate about a good spray to end. I cannot believe it. And when I finally admit it to myself, I was like, this is actually bringing me self-confidence.
Starting point is 01:02:32 It's like having your eyebrows done. Totally. So now I need it. I hate when people chirp me for Botox. I'm like, you better not have your hair colored. You better not wear makeup. Oh. You better be like all your hair on your body is growing because that's just part.
Starting point is 01:02:44 of my self-care routine it does not have to work for you it works for me 100% yeah I'm I'm like I'm like two weeks away from getting the Botox I need it I want it I can't I can't live without it go to my girl Elizabeth okay I'm gonna get her contact and she is just opening up a new spot soon too and she's just the best person you'll you'll love her oh absolutely love her yeah Botox is is king it all is whatever makes you happy totally can do it oh okay well down that no let's play your favorite thing okay what's this game um you just tell me your favorite thing of the things I ask and um and then And we'll wrap it up because I got a massage at 130. Hell yeah, girl.
Starting point is 01:03:16 You go, get her dance. What a life. Okay. Your favorite album of all time. Mine's jagged little pill, Alanis Monsorson. That's a great album. I got to say golden hour, Casey Musgrave. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 01:03:26 It's so good. Top to bottom. I love the, what's her one song? Born in a hurry, always late. Haven't been early since ADA. So good. Favorite concert you've ever played? Favorite concert I've ever played.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Ooh. I got to play an Edmonton, Eskimo. Samfell halftime show. Yes. And there was so many people there. And I was like, I love a stadium. Yeah. It was tough.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I feel that. I feel that. Okay. Favorite song to perform live? Favorite song to perform live? Good time being a woman. Okay. Pumps me right up.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Favorite city you've ever visited? Ireland. Me too. Yeah. I love Ireland. Is Ireland a country? What city? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:04:04 The whole thing I stand. I live. Sure. Me too. I love Ireland. Yeah, I love Ireland. Favorite person to write music with? A favorite person to write music with,
Starting point is 01:04:11 probably this guy named Jim McCormick. He's like, I think he's like 50 he has the best attitude in the entire world and he's just a genius and we just we love each other I cried in front of him the other day I'm perfect that's when you know you're getting you're with a good person yeah I love him favorite Nashville spot favorite Nashville spot to eat yeah oh inglewood lounge have you been yet my god no it's in inguwood right by my house okay east Nashville it is like a California dive bar it is I'm writing this down you need to go it's so hip and cool it's still unfound like people don't know about yet oh they have amazing food inglewood what inglewood lounge it's like this pink oh this is exciting it's
Starting point is 01:04:47 really cute you got to go okay i literally go i it's like my stumble home place it's like i'll go everywhere else and then one one nightcap nice wine yeah god you or me uh favorite drink other than wine teal soda me too shut up yeah casumica soda with life it's amazing it's such an upper it is and i don't get hung over i don't get hung over either my god wine screws me though yeah if i drink too much wine yeah headache is there but tequila soda's all night yeah uh favorite way to spend a day off oh probably hanging with kyle oh just doing whatever how often do you guys get to see each other pretty often like once every couple weeks oh that's nice yeah god and you know what you kind of got to embrace the long distance while you've got it because you get to miss each other it's so romantic and then you do like
Starting point is 01:05:27 the best things when you're together and eventually eat whatever you want yeah exactly okay long walks i just live for you I live for you I'm so glad we met I'm so glad we're now friends like it or not i'm coming to your book club you're part of the dirty bookers i love it are you here often or are you gone a lot um i'm here pretty often okay yeah okay great well why don't we just have like a wine night and maybe like we just start writing and then all of a sudden we have a song together
Starting point is 01:05:55 oh my god wouldn't that be amazed yeah we'll release a collab i love it and it'll every every lyric will just be a shortened word not even english at this point it's just nobody even knows it's it but we do But we do, because it's just, it braves. I'm obsessed. Oh, my God. I love this. Thank you so much for being on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:14 So fun. This is the best. Now we get to go, like, just, what are you doing the rest of the day? I don't know. I'm probably going to work out. Oh, the day's yours. But maybe I'm, like, already feeling a little tip. So I might just, like, carry my buzz on.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah. I woke up this morning and I was like, I'm going on a cleanse. Now I'm like, hi, I called September, sober, September in two days in. I was black out. Oh, yeah. Exactly. I'm like, should I do sober October? It's a, it's a nice thing in theory.
Starting point is 01:06:35 never gonna happen no never never but I like where you had that 100% thank you where can everybody find you in your music emily read.com yeah Instagram.com slash Emily read music just pop it in the Google and you gotta watch the video you have to watch the video YouTube wine Emily Reid you have to watch it I try to get everybody to go on spade and sparrows to watch it but when we do this when I promote this podcast I'm gonna do another swipe up to watch the video please yeah it would be amazing yes okay well good luck to you with everything I can tell your energy and everything that you just like stand for
Starting point is 01:07:05 You're going to do big things. Thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely. And you're Canadian. All the way, girl. I love it. And good job. Roman for that.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Look, you little angel. He has never, there has never been a more perfect dog. Well, you wouldn't say that last podcast. Look at him. He's just happy. He's a little angel. He is an angel. We'll do a picture with him now.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Yeah, please. Okay. Bye. Thank you so much. I'm Caitlin Bresell. See you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine. Grape Therapy.
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