Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Getting Real with Charity & Dotun

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

Get ready for cuteness overload! The lovely Miss Charity Lawson is BACK on the pod to introduce Kaitlyn to her new fiancé, “Dotun Bug.” It’s hard not to believe in soulmates when you see these two together. After a few weeks of being in public, we find out what challenges they’ve faced post-show, what has been the most shocking part of the whole experience, and Dotun shares his perspective on dealing with the noise which #inspires KB. Then, the couple dives into their thoughts on Bachelor in Paradise and Charity shares who she thinks would be a good match from the announced cast (since she knows a lot of them pretty darn well). And before Charity puts her dancing shoes on, Kaitlyn shares some words of advice to get her through the Dancing with the Stars experience. They wrap up with more cuteness and before the mics are off Dotun calls Kaitlyn out for something he’s been holding in for awhile now -- it's a fair callout, too. Stay connected, Vinos! Watch on the Off The Vine YouTube channel  Follow on Instagram @offthevinepodcast  Join Our Off The Vine Facebook Group  Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self. Visit BetterHelp.com/VINE today to get 10% off your first month. Hinge: Download Hinge and share your Dating Intentions to find someone worth deleting the app for. Nutrafol: Nutrafol is offering my listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code VINE. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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it's going to look like for them during dancing with the stars it was a really sweet conversation uh you really get to know them both as people and they're definitely compatible it's in the stars people okay enjoy my combo with charity and done hi cuties not me over here making noises already i know like turned into like a weird bird i'm like oh my god hi wait you two look like you're like fresh off the show and like your gown and suit and like so beautiful and in a backdrop. Where are you? We're in a studio somewhere. We're in New York though. Oh, amazing. Okay, I'm so excited to you both because obviously I'm obsessed with you guys. Charity texts me, you were like, I can't wait for you to meet Dottenbug. So I'm like cute nickname. Dottenbug. Yeah, I don't say that with him.

I call him. I'm like Dottenbug. Don't bug. It's so cute. Do you guys have little nicknames for each other? No, I mean, besides her like our code names that we use on the show. I do call her Miss Charity. Miss Charity's like, when I'm really like speaking my heart out, I'll say Miss Charity, Miss Charity. Oh, no, Charity rolling her eyes over there. I know, because, I mean, it's so cute. I'm like, don't tell everybody with that. I know.

I was debating, like, secret, but it's okay. It's still between us. It is, it is. I will say you have to find those little things that can stay between the two of you, not that you just shared something like that I shouldn't. know, but I had a media trauma therapist on my podcast once, and she was talking about inside treats and how, you know, in this world of social media, you want to share so much and you're a new couple and you've been hiding for so long. And she was saying, like, even, you know,

people that aren't in the spotlight right now, or if you are, to find those little inside treats and have them between you two. So you got to find those little special moments. But, okay, so many questions. I know you've done your rounds, you know, about the season. everything and you've probably been like beating the dead horse about all the like questions that are very typical. So I'm going to try and get into some real life stuff because now it's been a few weeks since you've been out and about in public and being all cute and stiff. So how are things going? How have the real life challenges set in? How is being out in public together are, tell me everything. Yeah. I mean, I will say, am I about to share this? You know what I'm about to

share. But she said real life challenges. I feel like after. AFR, um, we like kind of dove right into that. He lost his phone at the Uber. So our very first Uber that we took, he lost his phone. So he had to go like 48 hours without it. And so I like, we had a flight to catch. It was just all those things. And it's like him seeing me frantic and trying to help him and be supportive. But also I'm like, no, we got to catch our flight. It's all these things. So he saw a lot of hides off, off the bat, right? But we are doing swell. I feel like we adjusting very normally. Is that a word? Yeah. As normal as you can. Truly as normal as we can. But like it feels, we always say like every day just feels like we just keep evolving and we keep growing like

more and more in love. Like there's nothing that feels like, oh, now that we're out, it's like public. Nothing has shifted in the sense that it feels like there's a disconnect. Like it, if anything, we're just as strong. Yeah. I would agree with that. It's been, I feel like it's smooth. I don't have anything to compare it to, right? So it's like, I don't know what it's like for anybody else, but when I look internally, like, I feel like this is as smooth as it can go, truly, like the way that we're kind

of tackling every chapter, right? Obviously, you know, there's filming, and then there's post-filming and hiding and shit, and then there's, you know, coming out. And, yeah, it was hectic. You jump right into a birthday as public as you could possibly believe. Literally in Vegas. Like, Iraq, in Vegas.

Yeah. Models and shit. So, but it's just been a great time. And we've just continued growing and we're just so compatible. I think that's what that lends to. So it's been great and it's been fun and having fun with this little cookie over here, a little firepack over here. A little cookie. I'm obsessed. This whole podcast is us, just the three of us, going to be making weird noises.

I'm obsessed. That's so cute, though. I mean, that is a lot. I saw the Vegas stuff. And I was like, that's so fun. You know, you got to enjoy those little. moments and you get to, you know, celebrate together. And people just want to, they want you to be in their club and they want you to be posting and they want, but you get to take in that too. You know what I mean? Like you get to reap those benefits too and enjoy it. And I always think, you know, like for real compatible couples who come off this show, the real evolving, like you said, happens after. It's like, of course you went through this world when you got engaged and then the foundation kind of starts right after that and building that. So it's so important to acknowledge

that and recognize that. So I love that for you too. And I was thinking about like social media because gosh, I'm having actually kind of a hard time with social media right now because people love to blame a woman for everything. And I mean, the bullies are out and about. And I know I'm sure you guys are getting a lot of love and a lot of support. But have you discussed your expectations or boundaries with social media for your relationship? How do you plan on navigating that together. We kind of already hit that bump as the show was airing. I'm very like protective over myself, but also like this relationship in him. So it's like if I see something, and I think I talked about it the last time when I was with you is like, I'm not afraid to clap back, but it's like

knowing every battle's not mine to do. And so he has been so helpful in that and just like reminding me that it's okay. Like we don't have to respond to certain things or to everyone. one despite how much it might irritate you. So we do have a boundary kind of in place of like certain things that we're just avoiding. Not in terms of like how much usage we use on social media because like obviously it's a part of like our lives and we, to a certain degree, not have to, but you know, we kind of have to. But we know and he's very aware of when he notices like maybe shifts in like my moods and vice versa. Like we can be like, all right, maybe we just need to take a step back from it. And so, yeah, we definitely have kind of discussed that because

if anything, we both talked about, like, that's the hardest part of all of this. It's like the external outside noise. It's so much noise. Yeah. It's like loud. And I know, Don, you just, like, this whole world is so new to you. Everything must be very, like, jarring because Bachelor Nation is a passionate bunch. And, you know, they either root for you or root against you and they want to see you hit the top and they want to see you fall to the bottom and it's just this whirlwind and roller coaster. So what is the most shocking thing that you have experienced through this whole journey, if you will? Yeah. So like obviously coming off the show, like I didn't, like I said, obviously didn't know much about it. So Bachelnation didn't know besides the Barbie group

date and like seeing what they're like. Now, I got a little taste. Oh, okay. He's spicy. So I got a little taste But coming off And I'm someone who like I like to learn things And understand like the realm of how things go So But we've been lucky that there's been so much support

Right So even though I'm on social media And I'm like interested in it Like I feel like I've decent resolve To like kind of know what's bullshit and not So like the truth is as much as I love the support Like I think it all comes from the same place Right the love and the hate

So you have to just take it all It just be like whatever right This is what matters. But we have just been lucky that it's been so much support. And so, like, it's overwhelmingly positive. So for me, it's been really easy to focus on that. There hasn't been much negative, but I will say that one thing that has been surprising is that, like, you know, obviously we have, like, this black love.

And so, like, you would think that African-Americans and black food would be for us. But what I found out is, like, a lot of the hate comes from within. It's actually so crazy. And that's, like, been the most saddest. part about all this. And you see all these, like, African-American women. And they're like, nah, she should have picked Joe. And I'm like, this is the craziest thing. I know. It's actually so, it's what I least ever expected. Like, I knew there's going to be like, obviously, there's always haters. So it's like, but to have it come from your own, it be your own. And so

it was just, that's been so shocking. And it's just like such a, um, eye opener into like the state and like how, not to get too serious. But, um, it is an interesting like, experiment into like how racism works and like you see all these women who like have this mindset and they're putting themselves in her shoes and they want to be it's just so crazy that's exactly what it is y'all should be disappointing y'all so go back to school hey i love the passion i love the passion and it's true i obviously don't know how to relate to that of course but my perspective is the editing you know what i mean like they will make you look they have to it's part of the show it's part of the show it's part of

the format it's part i say this all the time to bachelor couples it's like if you just know in your true self and your gut in your heart and your brain that you are compatible people and that you somehow had to meet on this weird ass show that makes you fall in love with other people that that's just how it works and that your foundation really does start after if you continue to have that mindset it will all be okay and from what we see on tv and from what i know of charity and you too have such good communication skills and you're able to like kind of remove yourself from the noise and be like, okay, what matters? How do we talk through this? Because it is pure chaos and you're in the thick of the whirlwind of the media storm right now and it's all heightened. And you know,

the next season will start and it'll all be, you know, next and it's a crazy world. But editing is it's a fascinating show. And I knew in my heart of hearts who I was picking and they have to make it look like it could be the other person. You want to be on the edge of your seat. You want to think they're going to pick the other person. And, you know, if you picked Joey, they would have been rooting for you and been like, oh, my God. You know, it's, it's all just, and not to diminish your feelings about how you felt about that because I hear you. And I can't even put myself in that position. So thank you for sharing that and do better people.

It's just weird. I'm not like, it's just weird. It's just like you would never expect that. That's how the world is. The world is crazy. The world is really a shocking, disturbing place. You know what, where it really brings us. out the weirdos is the airports. I mean, the airports are where the weirdest people are, I'm like,

you guys are all exposed for being gross and no common sense. And like, do you guys get like, obviously recognized now all the time and are people respectful? I will say we haven't, like, everyone we've, like, ran into has been so sweet and so nice. But for me, I feel like now I get way more recognized with him by my side, because obviously, like, not hide. Yeah, so they see him. They're like, wait a second. And then like, oh, that's them. But no, everyone so far has been so kind. We have not, thankfully, have run into anybody who has been insane. And you probably won't because those people hide. You know, everyone's nice when they meet you. It's the people that are hiding that are the loud,

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we're just being humans. I don't care. Like, I sometimes, I don't feel like I have like a resting bitch face, but sometimes I might. And it might just be when I'm with him walking down the street and does not mean that I'm like not happy. I don't know. It's exactly, yes, you bringing that up. I do not feel pressure at all to perform or put on like how I have been during the show, how I am outside of it as we are navigating life like you're going to get charity loss in 100% of the time whether that's the good charity or the bad charity so be it i think me that's real talk about how we have like a similar like life path in a way and i'm sure it applies to you too but for me like i've spent so much my life being comfortable with who i am into my own skin there's no

way i'm ever going to let like some stupid person like why would i listen to you know what i'm That's insane. I would never do that. So just living live in life and just people are going to talk. And of course, like, again, that just comes through the territory. So I think we're both well aware of that. We discuss it like openly and often and continue to communicate about it. And so it's been, yeah, I don't even, that's just funny to me. I'm just like, okay.

I am inspired. Hashtag inspired because I've gone through this for eight years. So eight years I've been dealing with love, support, trolls, hate, ups, downs, all the things. And, you know, going through a public breakup brings out the loud people who just are like, you know, people want to pick sides and they want to be on teams. And I'm just over here trying to respect the mutual breakup and just like live my life. And then people are just like, ew, you look way too happy right now. And I'm like, I'm not allowed to be happy. Like, so I'm inspired because you're like, I don't care what these people think.

It's kind of funny to me. I'm like, yeah, what? Caitlin, come on. Bitch, figure it out. I mean, it's like, let me ask me this. are you doing the best you can in this life to be a good person and do good? Yes. Then that's it.

You know what I'm saying? Thank you. That's just the bottom line. Like truly. And if you're comfortable with that and you're confident in that, then that's all anyone can do. And you just hope that they do this. So like, period. I'm sorry.

I love that. I love that because a lot of people will say like, oh, don't let them get to you or they're just, you know, these sad people. But I like the bottom line where it's just like, am I doing my best? Am I being my best self? Yes. Okay, that is the bottom line. And as you two say, period. Period.

Period. I love this because I'm friends with so many guys from my season, and I had such a solid group of guys. And I know that you guys are still friends with, you know, Aaron B. And isn't it so funny, do we still probably call him Aaron B? Like, when do we drop the B? Literally, I'm like, why am I still calling this man Aaron B? I was supposed to drop it after the last Aaron went home on my season.

But who are you the closest to from your guys' season? It's tough. Like, everyone to ask this, and it's like, the thing is they all, like, there's like normal friends play a different role. So, like, I don't have a single thing. Like, for instance, Joey, you've made it the furthest. He's the most intentional. So, like, when it comes to, like, intentionality in that part of me, which is big,

he's the closest. You know, when it comes to, like, looking at life in a lighthearted way and being able to laugh at things and enjoy life and kind of do good, Tanner is like the closest, you know. So they all play a different role in the relationship, like Mikey, and the Airbnb, too. Like, I truly do love all those guys. And, like, whenever we hang out, you see it. Every single guy has a role.

Warwick, he's going to sleep. So I relate to him when it comes to sleepy time, you know? So, like, everything that I truly love and, like, want to see often. But it's hard to say one specific one. I'll hang out with any of them whenever it's possible. possible so you forgot our dancing i like that thought john b oh of course john b knows i see that man like every day now at this point so john b knows do you really yeah yeah john b is he seems like such a beauty like i just i want to go of a dance off with him literally i was going to say you're a dancer

like i would actually love to see that happen yes john v yeah john b don't stop moving he does he's Like, I call him the whole. Ha, ha, he'd be moving. That's awesome. Yeah, he was so fun to watch. We'll talk about dancing very soon. But we got to talk about Paradise first because, you know, some of your friends are going to be on it. Some of your exes.

Some of your friends dating your exes. Are you guys going to watch Paradise together? We absolutely are. You're kidding. That's going to be like how I cope with, like, dancing with the stars and everything. Totally. We'll be watching. We're so excited.

about it because obviously like you said we have like some of my closest like my actual closest girls are on there and like his best guy friends my exes like it's just a weird dynamic but it's going to be so funny to see it all play out i cannot wait truly is there anything better than seeing your friends in mess like i know like how are you going to handle this and it's so us people we both it's perfect we're going to be tuning in 100%. i can't wait i'm going to watch too i'm going to have to have you guys on for like a recap of one of the episodes because it's so fun. My commentary is going to be unhinged. I'm going to be on like threads like saying the loan. See, that's what we love to see. That's the realness that like, okay, we see the charity and

Dotten on TV. We get to see the like Bachelorette and all the fancy and then now we get the gritty, the real, the honest. I love it. I always say, I keep saying like the guys got so lucky that they don't know charity that I know now because she's just, oh, my. my God, like, funny as hell, like, two one of the funniest people and, like, we didn't get to see that side of her per se, because obviously we're just having deep conversations and trying to get a relationship. But, like, knowing her sins. Oh, my God. Like, that was not what I expected. I was like, this is going to be a wholesome relationship and we're going to be all proper. No, no. No. No. Yeah. We get down and I love that because that's, you know, I am too. That's why it works so well. I mean, that is part of what makes it you guys compatible is that, you know, the fun parts of it's, it's, it's, there's so much serious. and uncertainty in life and confusion. And I read a quote once that was like, so many things in life should be confusing and love should not be one of them.

Like love should not be confusing. And that really hit me right in the tits. Sorry, I meant her. I was like, wham! Like, holy shit, that's so true. Okay, if you guys could make a match from the announced cast for Bachelor in Paradise, who do you see is like, yeah, they'll work?

Okay, let's go. initially Kylie and Avin because I was like hands down like I've been oh yeah one of that to happen they just look so good together um I'm trying to think I said Greer and Braden but I don't know how that dynamic actually would work out oh yeah Greer and Braden oh is Braden going to get his redemption on Paradise you know they always have one I doubt it I mean stay tuned not a bad way like obviously we love Braden but it's like His person, like, I don't see that man switching up or doing anything different. Like, he, he's going to be braided until the day he is out of here. So, yeah. I respect that. I respect that he is who he is. And, you know, I mean, he's also very young.

Yes. Yes. That is a thing. I was saying Sean and Jess. Interesting. See, I don't know much about the girls. I see a shot. I don't know, like, a ton about the girls that we met, like, cats like about the young

that really met with any significant amount. But I could kind of see that from a little I know about Jess. Um, there's just like going to country clubs and golfing and shit. She's a Florida girl, so that's why I kind of did that up here. It's a good pair of that. Yeah. I don't agree with that. We'll have to see.

I'm so excited. I find that show the most fun to watch. It's just like such a fun little shit show. I think we all wish we could see the two of you on our screens like all the time because I feel like you're your guys's love. If you tune out all the other relationships, which you obviously have to do because yours was the one that mattered the most. I feel like it's so pure and, like, it was so easy to watch. And even the proposal, like, it just felt so natural. And I'm just wondering, like, when you guys

felt that connection where you're like, oh, shit, this is definitely it. I will have to say, I don't know, I, like, knew in my heart of hearts that, like, Doughton was going to be it. But I will say, like, I was, like, my world was, like, rattled in Oceanside. Like, when we had that conversation, obviously you guys only saw like a brief moment of that but like that conversation was actually very like long I was crying the whole time and I was like what is going on like the way that this man brought me to tears and just was like it was like the first moment I actually genuinely felt my whole life that like someone was recognizing me for me not like for a role not for like oh charity's just like a pretty girl like he saw like you the core exactly

the core of me. I was like, oh, okay. And so I was like, wait a second, what's going on? I was like, okay. That's actually really beautiful because you're right, we don't see that full picture of what it was. But like, I mean, all you ever want to feel from your partner is seen and, you know, past all of the external things that you obviously have so many qualities, but to actually feel seen for who you truly are to your core is, when you have, you have, have that, it just feels different. You know what I mean? Like, you can, you can tell the difference between flirting and feeling something and butterflies and then feeling seen. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I would say for me, um, and like it comes in different stages, right? Like, it builds in different

stages. So there's different things you see. Like Oceanside was when like, I saw something in her, but she didn't really discuss what she saw in me. So for me, I was like, okay, let's still, I got to still have to shore her sides of me. But then it was that chat and, um, it was that chat at the fireplace in skamania and then we talked about like our life path and i was like just blown away because i was like i've never met someone who traveled a life uh had a similar life path you know of like uh decent upbringing and then you kind of kind of forge your own path right and there's this life trying to phone you but you forge your own path and the lessons you got out of it and we had this very long discussion about it and everything was resonating i was like holy crap like

this is really somebody that like i could see myself with and and talking about how We can't be put in the box. I don't know if you remember that piece, but, like, that was so important. I just felt so understood. And so for me, that's when I was like, okay, I think I need to bag this girl up. Logging up. Okay, who's with me? Are we tired of dealing with thinning hair?

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on this part for like the body but then like I'm like the health and wellness for like the mind so like I don't want to do what we plan to do but yeah yeah but you talk about it yeah we definitely do talk about all those things and it's just like obviously so fascinating because it just works like it works together and like it's not like we're fighting each other or like so one wants to be like a but you know it's like we're doing this together I love that do you believe in soulmates do you guys believe in soulmates I do I feel like we have like several I'm like that kind of person that I feel like you can have like a soulmate that's a friend. But like this man definitely obviously is my soulmate, like clearly.

I had an aura reader on my podcast and she told me that you two had soulmate energy. Oh, sick. You know, I've been seeing a lot of, um, like horoscopes, too saying that. Yeah. Oh, about our signs. Yeah. Really? Wait, what are your signs?

So I'm a Capricorn. He's a Virgo. Okay. I know, I know a little bit about Capricorns. They're amazing. Um, and Virgo, I don't know too much about. but what do they say that um like we're the most compatible like yeah they're like this make a uc commerce no wonder they're together she's a capricorn he's a rigour i'm like i don't know

but yes yes i'll take it um so yeah that and uh but outside of that like i also believe that um so maids like there's probably multiple people that you could really connect with on the strong level out there and it's just about finding that one you know which takes work and it's difficult um and it's the last place i expected to find but also kind of makes sense you know it's like of course you would meet your solely on a tv show you weren't supposed to be on you know isn't it crazy yeah you were like a late a last minute edition and then you two are like it's all meant to be i truly believe and i watch it and i see you two together and i see it it does make sense so i'm so excited and i mean i'll i always say this and i've said it probably five times this podcast

but it's the lust on the show and the real love is now and the fact that you two are still choosing each other every day and can get through this together is incredible. Now, something else you're going to have to get through together dancing with the stars. Please take my advice on this. I'm listening because you've done this. Put aside time every week for the two of you to clear the air and do this thing called Thanos. Okay. I'll send it to you in a text. But have you heard of Thanos? I have not. Can you explain? So it's called Thanos, but you do knee to knee. So you you sit knee to knee facing each other and phanos is a Greek word for shed a light on so you're going to talk about feelings you're going to share with your partner feelings that you have you can literally

google a list of feelings and share what you're feeling with each other and then a affirmations so affirm your partner something she or he has done that you love and appreciate then needs state something you need today it doesn't even necessarily have to be like from the partner but something you need today, then ownership, take responsibility, apologize for something you said or done, and then talk about struggles. So if you have an opportunity to tell your partner, like, what you're struggling with, you don't even have to have answers for each other or have rebuttals or be like, well, I did this. It's just listening and communicating that. I see you nodding your head and smiling and looking at each other. Have you already talked about this?

We kind of already do that. Some of it. Some of it. But there's other parts that I would love to add in. And I think it would actually be helpful with like a very like you know more once we get in a routine of life and then obviously with um dancing with the stars being like busy but like I that's why we're smelling because it's like something that we try to do every night um whether we're together okay overachievers I was like once a week no no but but this is actually great I actually love yeah I do we don't do the take um what you call it like the ownership ownership I love that I love that yeah yeah it's all like positive but like you got to get those other parts.

Absolutely. I actually love that. Thank you for that. So added elements to do. So yeah. I'll send it to you in a text too because dancing with the stars can really, sometimes you won't want to talk about your feelings after. It can be like seven hour days.

You can be like so tired. Your body's hurting and you still have to like make time for each other because it's, it's a really hard thing to go through and you're just spent like you don't get a day off. You don't get a day off. But the thing is you always got to see the light at the end of the tunnel. You're doing something really fun and don't forget that. because people get really caught up in like the, I did, I got really caught up in the competition of it and making it further. And sometimes I was just like a grump. And I wish I looked back. It was like,

Caitlin, it's a family friendly show. It's about dancing. It's about making other people feel good at home. And I think just remembering to have fun and make sure you're checking in with each other. And it's a lot. But it's one of the like coolest things I've ever done. So enjoy it too. I will. And I love that you said like the fun aspect. And I was talking to him about this, but obviously it's like the moment that I start to lose sight of that, I think it will like start to affect like everything else in my life. So I don't want that to be the case. This is supposed to be an enjoyable experience. And it's something new that I'm doing. So like, I mean, yeah. It'll, it's you'll, you'll enjoy it. And you, um, you know,

give yourself grace when you are having the hard times because it is hard. It is really hard. it's harder than anybody thinks i always like to warn people too like i'm going to set that bar so high for you because i want you to be like oh god she was not joking it is so hard but you're going to crush it and um are you allowed to talk about who your partner is or no not yet um we'll find out next week or whenever this comes i have three thoughts of who they might put you with based on height okay because they do this sometimes based on height so how tall are you i'm like five three and a half five four Okay. Oh, that's me. You're the same high as me. Okay. So, okay, so I think possibly Artem because the height, I think possibly Alan because I could see them putting you with him only because he's like one of the more well-loved, I feel like out of a lot of them. And I feel like I could see you and your like fun personality with him. But he also is crazy in the ballroom. He's kind of a dick, but I could see it. Well, they're all dicks.

They're all dicks, I'm telling you. Buckle up. Or, no, he's too short. Not Gleb. Gleb's too tall. Oh, Brandon. Oh, I would love a theater with Brandon. Okay, so those three.

Brandon is so fun. He's probably the nicest, and he's just so goofy and sweet and means well and, like, so fun. Artem is so hardcore. He's Russian, and that's, like, how he was trained growing up. And he, he, like, wants, he'll believe in you and he'll push you to your limits, which we love. And then Alan would be an absolute nightmare, but so he would, it would be really like, he would take you far. Okay. Okay. Well, two of those have thin with bachelors in one. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay.

So there you go. And get yourself an ice foot bath. There's Hannah sent me one. Maybe I'll just send it to you. send you a nice foot bath. You just got to ice your feet, battle through the pain, smile, enjoy, and always come back to the two of you at the end of the day because it's going to go by like that. You know, it's going to go by so fast. That's what I was saying, it's going to go by so quick. I know it and it'll be over. You guys can get through anything. It's, that's already clear. So, yeah, it's going to be stressful, but I know you guys will navigate it together. Where do they, They'll have you living in a certain place. Are you going to stay together?

Yeah. Okay. Amazing. So, okay, now I know, Don, I heard you're a picky eater and only eat meat and cereal, but also you're the better cook. So what does that say about Charity's cooking? And are you going to cook meals for her when she comes home? Um, so much know how to cook.

She knows how to cook. Hello. You know how to cook. Good. I love it. I just better to do you how to cook. You guys can just cook together. Um, yeah.

I used to be a. a picky eater. I'm recovering. I'm better. I don't just eat cereal meat anymore. That was 10 years ago. I've come a long way. So now I have a little more diversity, but yeah, the plan is definitely, you know, have her meals ready. And yeah, it's like a point. Everyone can work on their diet, right? And so I'm fortunate enough that's the fold I work in. And so I'm going to get her ride and be having some home-cooked meals. I love that. You're going to be so, like, nutritious and, like, fuel for your body to dance. I love that. Oh, yeah.

What a whole plan. I could use some help after six days in Italy. I ate and drank my way through Milan and Monsa, and it was, I mean, I'm still full from like two days ago. As I say, you're in recovery mode. You're going to be shen that off for a few weeks. I'm telling you what, I went to F-45 this morning for a cardio class, and I've never had more energy in my life. I was like, all these carbs, like, I was on fire. Okay, before I let you guys go, um,

I've said it. You guys have a beautiful, beautiful love story when we, you know, we're going to hone in on that one story. So I have some rapid fire questions to get to know what you guys think about your love. So, if your love had to be told through one song, what song would it be? God, I'm like, I don't want to give it all. I don't either because it's so special to us. Should we say? No, no, no, no.

No, no, no. Okay. Pick a different one. What's that song by Miguel? Sure thing? Sure thing. Okay, yeah. Oh, good one.

Good one. If your love had to be described in one word, what would it be? Serendipitous. That's easy. Oh, that's nice. Infectious, like in a good way, not like that. Oh, I like that. And, okay, last one.

If your love was a cocktail, what would it be? French 75, because it's classy, but we got a shot of whatever. Chate of choice. Gin. Yeah, gin. Tequila, vodka, whatever you want. I love it. That's a good one.

I really like that. I freaking adore you both. Thank you so much for taking the time today. And I'm rooting so hard for you. If you need anything, please let me know, especially during, you know, things where I can give you a page from my book. So let me know anything you need. I'll come visit you in L.A. And come watch a show.

Yay. Thank you, Caitlin. We love you. Love you guys. Have such a good day. I know you're busy and just take it all in. Wait, hold on. Hold on, Caitlin.

I have a question for you. Yeah. Get off. So last time you interviewed her. you're going through the list of people Oh no, what I say. Come on, baby, let's go. You're going through a list of people.

Pay attention. And when she said my name, I got sent there's so many big places, you had a visceral, what's up? Talk to me. No, this is not how it. What did I say?

I don't even remember. I think you were going through, like, I said choose a top four. Who do you think makes it to hometowns? And then you got to Don's name. And then you were like, I was also nervous too, because I think you said his name

wrong and I didn't correct you so I was like try not to give it away but then here we go truth moment and then um oh i'm the worst went quick you were like not feeling it so you went like nope but it's okay it's okay i take it all back i always root for the underdog and here you are and i apologize from the bottom of my heart for pronouncing your name wrong i i read through names all the time i butcher everybody's name and that i will never mess it up again you are my number Thank you for calling me up. Oh, my God. Poking fun is my love language.

So thank you. I know. That's why I had to check it. I'll make up for it. I promise. We love you, Kay. I love you guys. Bye.

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