Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Hannah Ann

Episode Date: April 9, 2020

Hannah Ann comes on the show this week to tell Kaitlyn all about her experience on The Bachelor and answer tough questions about her breakup with Peter. Hannah tells us how hard and lonely it was to keep her secret before the show aired and the anxiety of everyone seeing her get her heart broken on air. Later, she answers some listener questions and tells us what she’s up to in quarantine! GEICO - Go to geico.com, and in fifteen minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance PERSONNA – Right now you can get 25% off your first order with code VINESHOW. Feel the difference with Personna razors today! FABFITFUN – Use co de ‘VINE’ for $10 off your first box at www.fabfitfun.com RITUAL – Vis it Ritual.com/VINE to get 10% off during your first three months.  LA CROIX – Enjoy La Croix sparkling water, a healthier alternative for you and your lifestyle. ABC’S THE BACHELOR PRESENTS: LISTEN TO YOUR HEART - ABC's The Bachelor Presents: Listen To Your Heart premieres Monday, April 13 at 8/7 central on ABC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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All right, you love The Bachelor, and of course, Bachelor in Paradise. And on Monday, April 13th, the next Bachelor chapter begins. The premiere of The Bachelor Presents. Listen to your heart. This new show has everything you love about The Bachelor, romance, hot tubs, Chris Harrison, and, of course, the drama, drama and more drama, but with musical strings attached. 20 single musicians will step inside the Bachelor Mansion

to embark on an incredible journey to find love through the power of music. The harmony of the couples will be tested by their relationships and judged by some of the biggest names in music like Jason Maraz, Kesha, and Bachelor Nation fan favorites. You will see Jason and myself on there. Which of these new Bachelor hopefuls will make beautiful music together,

Who will strike the right note and who is there for the song reasons? The Bachelor Presents, Listen to Your Heart, a six-episode event starting Monday, April 13th, 8, 7 Central on ABC. Podcast One Presents, Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Caitlin Bristow's going to answer your question, drink to your confessions, and hear what you have to say about anything Bachelor. Let's shake it up some more. here's Caitlin. I'm your host, Caitlin Brissot. My guest today is someone who you first got to know on the most recent season of The Bachelor.

She started off the season with a little drama, but it wasn't your fault, Champagne Gate. That was so dumb. But definitely went over America after standing up for herself post-breakup, knowing her worth. Though she may not be the next Bachelorette. I have a feeling we will definitely see her again either on Paradise, if that's going to happen. Or you can just follow her on Instagram and TikTok and all those fun things that we're doing these days while we're bored. So please welcome to the podcast. Hannah Ann, how are you? Hi. Thank you so much for having me. I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I mean, this time is,

you know, scary and full of uncertainty, but I'm doing really well. Good. And where are you right now? Are you in L.A.? Yeah. So I moved right after AFR. So I was flown out. I said, I'm packing two suitcases. And right after the show, I moved into my apartment the next day. Wow, good for you. I like a little risk taker. Is that usually how you are in life? Are you a risk taker or is this like, was that a big move for you? No,

I'm a risk taker. Oh, you are? Yeah. So like, I mean, thinking about it, like the past like 10 days has been like such like a shit show in a sense because it's like I moved out to,

you know, I finished AFR, finished the season and moved into my apartment. I had never seen before in person. I found out I was getting a roommate earlier than expected. and I had never met my roommate before. And then I find out that I'm being quarantined with my new roommate, being quarantined, all my, like, modeling jobs get canceled.

And then I'm quarantined and then my power goes out for three days. All my meals get spoiled. So it's just, you know, it's been a little rough, but I'm surviving. Dang. That right there just gave me anxiety. I can't handle the thought of living with somebody that I don't know. know, like that's very brave of you. And then to be quarantined, do you get along? Yes. It actually has been seamless. It's been perfect. But, like, I'm kind of, like, taking a step back and be

like, what the crap? Like, the past, like, two weeks, three weeks of my life has just been, like, crazy. Wait, I am so thrown off by this that you never met her. So this is a girl? Is it a girl? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked on the phone, but, like, we never met in person. Like, I didn't really know a lot about her. But she's honestly awesome. That is a high risk, high reward move right there because what if she sucked? And then, like, how did you find her? What if she was like a fan girl and like was super creepy about it? So she was my friend's sister, but I had never met her sister before.

But my friend, she seemed like really nice. So my best, she was really like my best friend's friend. And so I'm a people person. I like to be friends with people. You know, I'm very social. And so I thought, you know, she was really nice. And then she's like, well, my sister's looking for a roommate. I'm like, well, maybe.

Maybe in May I'll have her move in. So that was like the plan. So I get here and then I get a phone call from my friend. And she's like, hey, my sister would like to move in now if possible. And I'm like, well, sure. And I said it in the moment. I said, sure. And then everything was starting happening.

I'm like, oh, wow. Literally my friend dropped me off to my apartment. I had never seen before. Like, thank God. It's like nice, like a good landlord. But I'm like, wow, what a like what a freaking risk taker. Yeah, but that's great. That's great because I think that's what gets people, you know, I think that's what brings success.

And that's what's going to get you to where the places that you're supposed to go is by taking risks and like, you know, not looking back and just being like, I'm going to do this. And I don't care. I was, when I was 19, I moved with a hockey bag of clothes, so Canadian of me, I had a hockey bag of clothes and just like moved to a one bedroom apartment with four people, shared a room with a guy, a bedroom with a guy who I ended up dating and like just went for like all these random things. But that, I mean, now I'm like looking back every crazy step like that you take is going to lead you to like five or however years from now where you're going to look back and be like, thank God. did that because that opened so many doors for me yeah i mean i love that i mean i'm you know i try to be as independent as possible and like i've lived in l.a for like certain stints of time but never had like my own place like i've always done like a sub lease but like walking into like an empty apartment and i'm like wow like this isn't really exactly where i thought life would be but it's where it's at

and like let's just keep it moving forward you know so yeah really moving out here was like was like a great like first step to like a new beginning absolutely that's and you kind of need that after the show. How did you end up going on the show? Because I know you're friends with Hannah, so many Hannah's, Hannah G. So was she like, oh, you should go? Or how did you decide to go? You've probably told the story so many times. I'm sorry. Oh, gosh. No. I mean, not really. So last April. So this time last year, me and Hannah, she was in Alabama and I was in Alabama as well because I was dating a guy from Alabama. And we were going out for my birthday. And we like took a picture and someone from show was like, oh, she's cute.

And Hannah was like, well, she has a boyfriend. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, you know, I have a boyfriend right now. I don't really know. Obviously, I'm taken. And then about a couple weeks later, me and the boy broke up. And I was like, Hannah, I'm single now. And she's like, okay, let's get it going.

And then I started like the whole, like, casting process. I had to do, you know, everything like anyone else would. Yeah, there you go. All right. Do you own or rent your own home? I'm sure you do. And I bet it can be a lot of hard work. You know what's really easy, though, is bundling policies with GEICO. GEICO makes it easy to bundle your home owners or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. And it's a good thing, too, because you already have a lot to do around your home. Go to GEICO.com, get a quote, and see how much you could save. It's GEICO easy.

Visit GEICO.com today. That's GECO.com. A lot of people can't relate to what we go through on the show. Did you have an overall, overall, I mean, we'll get into the nitty-gritty, but did you have an overall positive experience during the show, or did you find it really hard? It was incredibly difficult, and I had some really shitty moments, but overall, I had a great experience. I've had a lot of really great people,

and I'm happy where life is at right now, and I can look back and overall be really appreciative of the experience. I mean, I'm happy with it. I mean, you should be. And, you know, you seemed like you were being authentic and yourself. And that's hard to do at a young age on national television and, you know, be dating in front of the whole world when people usually make really big mistakes in those times. But, yeah, I mean, some people go through that show and, you know, like the people that are portrayed as the villain or, you know, sometimes they aren't that person and they go through such a hard time. And, you know, the internet can be a really toxic place.

And I'm sure you dealt with some online bullies. And how do you, how did you handle any kind of negativity or criticism coming your way? Was that really hard for you? Or were you like, I have thick skin? Well, coming off the show, it, you know, my situation was very different from, I feel like, past seasons to where the show is kind of still ongoing. Yeah. You know, I was engaged, Peter, but it was still ongoing. There was still issues.

and so when I was getting, you know, some online hate, I really wasn't even focused on that because I was trying to save us, you know, that was where my attention was. People could say whatever they wanted about me on the internet, but like that couldn't absorb any of my attention because the life was being sucked out of me trying to like make this work with him. And that was like all where my attention was going towards. And like I made certain decisions in the beginning when we were together like I wasn't to watch the show. I was going to go on social media. I was making all these hard choices to where, like, I could be, like, you know, mentally and emotionally strong so that we could work this

out. And so that really helped me in the beginning, but also I was going through hell, you know, trying to save us and his engagement. So really, the online hate didn't affect me that much. Yeah, you had other things to worry about that were heavier than the trolls online. Oh, yes, much, much heavier. Yeah. I found it so hard because, I mean, we didn't really get to see too much of, like, you know, how you guys do the happy couple weekends and hang out like that. And we didn't see much of that. Did they film a lot of your happy couple weekends or how many did you guys have before that?

Like, we just kind of saw that one moment and it was kind of confusing. Yeah, yeah. And we had different videos filmed and like pictures, you know, from our happy. couples but you know that wasn't able to be shown which it probably would have made a little bit more sense that you know it's like a nicer transition but that was I guess unfortunate maybe for not really for me because I don't really want to see any of it but for the audience for them to see like our connection more and maybe kind of like get an inside of more of our breakup and stuff that probably would be helpful for viewers I agree because I was so the whole season to me was a

little bit confusing if I'm being honest like it's kind of chocolate It was so choppy. And I'm like, wait, what is happening? And then for you guys to get engaged, for us to not really see, you know, probably more than there was. Like, you probably have way more moments and connections and things going on that we didn't see. And then all of a sudden, they were kind of like, and here's one really shitty moment from the happy couple weekend. And like, now he's going back to this person. Like, it was so choppy and so weird.

And I just, it was confusing as a viewer. So I was wondering from you, like, how many times you guys got to hang out? And if it was kind of like, I know you said it was, you went through hell and there was a lot of hard times, which of course, and that's a lot of couples that come out of the show, you go through hell together while it's all being aired. But did you have moments in those happy couple weekends where you, like, thought it was going to work? Or did you kind of know in your gut that this was doomed? you know it was really kind of after we got engaged and then I found out about you know maybe the only girl left that's when I was like oh this is going to be hard to to work through but I was very committed to making it work and so we had a couple you know maybe two or three

happy couples and we had it was a happy couple you know we had some really great times I think viewers missed out and seeing like our connection and seeing you know how in love we were at that time and so seeing just the breakup and just a piece of the breakup it kind of was like oh I got people I wonder what people are going to think about this because they will probably be confused our breakup definitely didn't come out of nowhere you know we had had some like you know difficult conversations um leading up to it but we both stood by we were going to try to make it work um you know and give us a chance because it was only um the end of January it was so we were together for two months and for me personally like when I was on the bachelor

I thought I was in love and I would have said yes if I got engaged to that bachelor and then it didn't take me long moving forward to look back and see that it was just like you know and I hate to use the word manipulated but you are a little bit manipulated because it's a show they're making and it didn't take me long to realize that no that was not my person and I was in love with him and it was a show and I wish him well but whatever um do you look back now and be like oh that you know I was just in the moment in this show or were you do you truly feel like you were in love with this man and wanted to to marry him yeah I look back I feel like you know me moving forward if peter would have let you know let me go prior to our engagement I would have

been months able to like recover and really see the light so like when we were able to break up in January, the shock of it, I kind of had to work through. And then kind of like the anticipation of I'm going to see him at AFR, is he going to be single? What am I going to say to him? It was kind of like still ongoing. And so now the past like three weeks, I feel like has truly been like a breakup to where like I'm released from, you know, him. I don't have to, you know, ask like I'm engaged or not engaged. It truly has been time to like really think about over the last three weeks like how I really felt towards him. And if we really could have even made it work and I'm not ever going to like discredit how I felt towards him like I stand by I was

in love with him but seeing him and just seeing where my life is at and like more of the woman I have become I you know I do think that there's someone out there that's way more compatible for me you know different different traits that I'm looking for yeah I don't think you know worth it right no I'm happy with where life is that you know yeah that's that's good and I think all happy. In the most humble way, I'm trying to say, I'm very happy. Yeah, of course. No, I understand. All right, you guys, I've been sticking close to home these days, and I hope you are all doing the same. And that means ordering my essentials online when I can, which I actually prefer to do, whether I'm social distancing or not. I know a lot of you can agree with me on that one, which is why I want to tell you about persona razors.

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rose, you guys hadn't talked before that? No, we had not talked. We had not talked. You guys didn't like set up a little like, okay, how are we going to handle this moment? I would have appreciated that. I mean, I would have really appreciated that. So this is in between a breakup to AFR, right? Yeah.

just on the rose no nothing i would have greatly appreciated that but no why like what i mean i don't really understand he didn't wouldn't he have wanted that too you know just to like go in like kind of you would think you you would think he would want you know a heads up or you know some sort of pre-conversation but i mean that's what i always wanted even prior to our breakup i'm like hey we're we're going to break up just let me know Like, you know, give me a heads up. You know, still giving me that affirmation. You had no idea he had seen Madison after you?

Oh, no. I had no idea. I had no idea. So I was sitting backstage hearing that for the first time. He had spoken to my dad before, after the final rose. And my dad was like, hey, like, you proposed her on national television. You broke up with her on national television. Just at least allow her, like, this moment in private to hear you're with someone else.

And he said he couldn't answer that. So I kind of knew I had like a hunch like maybe something's going on but still I had I did not know anything. That's so wild. You were so composed and such a boss out there for that because I mean I think I think a lot of people would have just wanted to lose their minds and and you know turn turn the finger and point at them and blah blah but you were like you made it like really about who you are and how you've grown and what you deserve and I just I thought that was incredible and I mean the freaking Kardashians thought it was incredible so you know what that was a win for you it was really cool and I was thinking about you in that time because this was the first time in a long time that

the season hasn't been spoiled which was again confusing to me because you guys were together and people didn't know and and that must have been really really lonely for you to not be able to have, I mean, you have a support system as in like, you know, your family or, but you probably couldn't tell a lot of people because that's how it doesn't get spoiled. And how incredibly lonely was that in that time to be going through such a hard time trying to make a relationship work, everything being exposed on national television, people thinking they know who you are, but don't know it all. And you're just having to stay quiet. It's been, it was so, so hard. Because in the beginning, I came back and I was processing everything. But it was,

all excitement, you know, like I couldn't tell my best friend I was engaged. And that was an exciting secret to keep. And then really what was the most difficult was when we had the break up or really in between our engagement to our breaking up towards the end when it was like hell with us. It was so hard because people, everyone in my life, even my parents didn't even know what was going on. Like they could sense something was off about me and then it wasn't, it was just so lonely, you know, because I just felt like I couldn't tell anyone because I wanted to like not ruin the season, you know? Like that was my worst fear is that people would come out. She ruined the season for us and I didn't ever want to do that. I didn't because like the show it,

you know, could be so much more fun and exciting if the ending wasn't spoiled. And I wanted to like always like, you know, honor that and honor my contract and stuff. And it was so hard, especially after when we broke up, you know, I'm going, I'm like grieving the loss of this future I thought I had with them. And no one can know about it. No one can know that like every day I'm hurting. Every day like I take times or I just like I'll be out to lunch with my friends. I'll just like go to the bathroom and just cry and then come back and like I cook like everything's fine. And because you just, it's so hard. Like you just can't be so like trusting. I can't. I mean, that's so impressive to me that you could do that.

because I thought I was strong when I came off my season with everything that I went through and I could not keep things a secret. I couldn't. I needed to like rely on friends and people and I told things and I screwed up so badly and ruined my whole season. But like I that's so impressive that you were strong enough to do that and you know just have you were kind of your own rock and therefore yourself more than you probably even realized. Yeah. I mean because I felt so you know betrayed. by him I just kind of like wanted to shelter my own self and just like I think honestly it probably did make it harder that I wasn't able to tell anyone it really made it a lot harder now it's like now it's like now it's like been nice because it's like the whole world already yeah like every like I'm able to like openly talk about it and it like has helped me like move forward yeah able to like at least acknowledge like the hurt I felt at the time yeah it gives you a little bit of closure too that you know you you weren't just like out to lunch thinking that you the whole world doesn't know the story but from what they see everyone's so supportive of you know everything that you're doing

and everything that's happened so that's that's nice to know you can now you know you've gone through the the thick of it you came out the other side and there's so many beautiful things to happen in your life now in in the next few years from this so oh it's i mean i'm really impressed by you for for being so strong because that's it's it's it is hell. It can be hell and people don't really understand that, but especially going through what you did. And I was so nervous for like everything to come out. Like just the, it was the weirdest feeling just knowing like I remember a week before after Thon arose, it still hadn't gotten spoiled or anything. And I just remember me thinking like I was with my friends and just thinking like, wow, the whole world's

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It's, it's so terrifying. But it's also very relatable because who hasn't gone through a breakup or been hurt. And it's probably, it was probably really inspiring for a lot of. women to see how you handled it instead of you know breaking down and thinking of like poor like what what did I do wrong it's more of like okay no I don't deserve that and and this is what I do deserve and I learned a lot about myself in the process and you know that kind of strength that I think a lot of women need to see for for coming out of a tough time so that was amazing all right vinos I've got a real hard hitting question coming at you what makes you feel fab fit and fun for me

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Barb. The fact that Barb. Of course. Everyone has to. the fact that Barb was just like cheering you on in the crowd and like giving you the like yes girl and like shaking her head at her own son and like it was so it was so funny to see her just like expecting that much yeah so you didn't talk to her either i'm assuming or maybe you did but um because you couldn't talk to Peter yeah I yeah no um I talked to Barb after our breakup she She reached out a couple times, so we had spoken. I ended up, you know, telling her, like, we couldn't, you know, talk on the phone because I need to, like, move forward and just, you know, isolate myself, anyone close to him because I was really at that point just like, I love his family, what do I do? Like, I just, I really, but what he's done to me is so horrible. I just, I can't do it, you know?

I can't, like, get involved anymore. Like, I just need to, like, let it go. Like, I have to accept it. And there's no changing. this, you know, especially when I knew what he had done was going to be, like, publicized all over the world. Like, there was no, like, second chance there, you know? Right.

Or no hope. I was, um, wondering, like, with the way, you know, Barb obviously loved you and that was a whole thing. And then the Madison, like, is there something? And you probably can't answer this or maybe you can. But is there something that we were missing as viewers with Madison as to why there was so much like anger there and disappointment and like was there something that we didn't see about her that that we're missing because everyone you know she I don't want to say she got a great

edit because maybe she is great I don't know her I've never talked to her but I'm just like what are we missing that that his family was just so against this and obviously they were you know somewhat right because it didn't work out and his family did not have very nice things to say but I just found it interesting that as viewers we we were so again confused yeah yeah no was very like that was also kind of choppy you know just coming out of nowhere um you know I think it kind of just if I had to answer it would be I had a really great connection with his family my family and his family had a really great connection they really believed in love me and Peter together and I think they were just really rooting for us and I you know he comes from

a really great family I mean I don't think Peter I don't don't think his actions are have like ill will intent to them and I think they were just probably disappointed by the whole wishy-washiness you know going from me to not someone else like he comes from a really good stable nice family and I think maybe that's where more of that was coming from yeah um and just knowing that they weren't going to work out I mean something something obviously happened um yeah that was another weird thing like they had zero chemistry on the couch at the end and I'm just sitting there being like hey wait I'm so confused because you guys were engaged it seemed happy okay well maybe he wasn't so as happy as we

thought then he went back to Madison then they're sitting on the couch you would think for him to leave the engaged relationship he must be just head over heels for this person that he you know this must be the love of his life to do this for and there was zero chemistry and then it was done two days later it was again confusing Yeah, I think there was so much happening with the family and with them and it was just such a mess. And I like, you know, it was painful for me, you know, having to break up. But like I got out of it and like I could start like to work on myself and not be involved in all of the mess. I mean, it was just such a tornado.

Yeah, seriously. Now does that jade you a little bit for going on to paradise? not saying you would go in paradise or that you are or we don't know anything but does that jade you if you were to go on um i mean yeah once again it's like i'm putting myself out there to not only dating but dating on such a public level you know i'm i'm just really happy with like my life right now and like where i'm at and i really just want to focus on me and like my friends and like my job right now i don't know absolutely i would never say never to paradise but at the same time i really like my rhythm like what i'm doing right now good that's great and what are you doing like

what's now that i mean let's pretend the quarantine isn't happening you move to l.a what is your plan now what do you what would you love to be doing what are you going to be doing what what do you got going on yeah so i'm going back to what i did prior to the show which is being a model and so i'm modeled out here in l.a prior to the show so i'm just going back and doing you know what did a prior and it's nice because it creates like stability it creates me like nothing like not like my career hasn't changed that much in regards to like what I did before the show so I don't know I'm really excited and um you know happy for the future it's just I've gone through like literally like with the show ending um I look back and I was like I literally

hit rock bottom like where I just felt like a bunch of broken pieces like after leaving the breakup I just felt like a ton of broken pieces like where am I going to go from here like how am I going to rebuild myself and so it's taken time and like i still am working on it yeah of course you'll be working on that your whole life sister yeah so like piecing up you know the pieces you'll always be trying to figure it out and getting better and you're you're off to a great start um what do you feel like because i i i will say when i came off the show was really really bitter for a long time at producers at the show now i have a way different outlook on everything and so grateful um but one thing i will and always have said is that

I've learned through that show so much about myself and grew so much as a person. And what would you say that you learned the most about yourself? The most. Well, I'm a really good secret keeper. Yes, you are. Way better than I was. No, it was terrible. The thing I learned most about myself is I can be content on my own.

Right. I love. Just completely content with myself and who I am and not needy. a whole lot not needing a person to add to it yeah that's that I could be like my own rock you know I could be my own strength my own rock and you've proven that to yourself so it's that's you know I I find that um that's when you'll attract the right person as well is you know when you don't need them and they just add value to your life they don't you don't need them yeah yeah that's great I'm so proud of you I don't even know you that well but I'm just

So proud of you. And then for anybody listening that could be going through, like, you know, their rock bottom, what advice would you have for them? Don't feel like you have to depend on other people to be your own strength because I think that's the most important thing that I learned is because I could, I had to be very picky about who I would open up to, even like my mom and my sister, just because it weighed so heavy on me just like keeping this ending or just any kind of like any kind of opinion I had on anyone on the show just to keep that very private because I knew how explosive things can get on the internet and just how mean the trolls were and that was always a fear of mine and so my biggest advice

would be just never doubt like how strong you are and that just like make just being like disciplined about it and for me is like putting myself on a schedule and setting goals and like making hard choices, like not watching the show or not going on social media this day, you know, making those hard choices really helps, like, create structure. And so, at least for me, it creates structure to where, like, it's, it can be a constant when, like, everything else in your life is just seemed out of control, like, you have, you know, your constant of, like, hard choices you've made that will help, like, guide you. Absolutely. I love that. All right, so we all want to do the right thing to keep our bodies healthy in the long run, but

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because that is part of Off the Vine is you got to give me a good confession. So let me have it. Okay, this is really funny. When we did the photo shoot in Costa Rica with the waterfall, remember that for Cosmo. Me and I'm not going to say the name of the other girl. Because she probably killed me. Me and the other girl, we didn't shave.

Oh, shit. And we had to wear a bikini. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. That is like a fear of mind. Oh, no. So what did you do? Just keep your arms down?

We were, like, begging everyone for, like, razors, razors, and they found this sum. But literally, it was, like, right before. And, like, it was terrible. And they got so mad at us, they were, like, they were like, well, girls, like, you're in Costa Rica. Like, you should have known. And we're like, we did not understand that we were having to wear a swimsuit, model it on national TV. And it's going to be in a magazine. Like, come on, like, give us a heads up.

Oh, my gosh. So they got you razors. And then you probably had, like, it's like, what is worse? What would you rather hair or razor burn showing? Yeah, but we were in the middle of the rainforest, so it's so hard to get. Luckily, it was raining. So it was like, they pushed back the shoot. So they were able to run out and get us raiders.

But I was literally freaking out. Like, oh, my gosh. Like, because, you know, on camera, like, they can't edit that stuff out. No. I mean, they did some weird shit, though, with you guys with the bathing suit bottoms. like the way they showed your guys's butts was so weird they made it seem like the bathing suits were like way bigger than they were yes yes they yeah i did not like their shots no those were i mean at least everybody knew like everyone's like what what is happening here and then it became like

a thing on twitter okay i have a couple games here that i want to play with you one you're not going to like this but one's called plead the fifth so you have to tell me i'm going to ask you three things you have to tell you have to tell the truth about one okay okay okay so and then if i don't want to answer i say plead the fifth no you just have to answer one wait i've never played this before okay i'm gonna tell you okay so i'm gonna give you three options okay okay what other okay listen hear me out for all three first one what girl other than madison from your season would you turn and start walking the other direction if you saw her on the street two what vegetable most accurately represents Peter's

manhood or three what's the last text you sent to Barb? You can only pick one. Okay. The vegetable that represents Peter's manhood would be cauliflower because it has

no taste. Oh, that's good. Because cauliflower needs like a lot of flavor. needs like a lot because it's just bland like there's no taste so very accurate okay i am i accept that answer i was thinking like more of a limp asparagus but cauliflower wins yes but asparagus is good though i mean cauliflower just bland yes i am so into that answer okay um the next one there's only two to choose from who's someone from the house whose character you thought you knew but changed after the show

or would you rather be quarantined with Peter, Madison, or Hannah B? Madison. Okay. Because we would probably have a lot to talk about. That's fair. You guys would have a lot to talk about. Then you'd have to do like a podcast or Instagram live so that the world could hear what you two had to say. I'm sure you guys don't talk, right?

Yeah. I mean, no, me and Madison are actually cool. That's great because I find that through situations like this, You could probably bond over something like that. And when it's all set and done, like you were on the same show, you, you know, stuff like that. You can get through that kind of thing. I find more so with women. Like you can come together through that and be friends at the end.

And I respect the hell out of that. Yeah. And we don't have to marry each other now. You know, like it's not like we're friends. You know, it's not like we're having like, no. It's not like one of us is different than dating, you know, friendships. They're very different than dating. So, yes.

Yeah, we're cool. Okay, next game is just the last. So I'll ask you the last things of these things. Okay, so the last person from the franchise you spoke to. Victoria. Oh, Victor, spicy Victoria. Okay. Right?

Is that the one, Victoria? Yes, yes. Is she the spicy one? Yeah, yeah. Okay. The last text message you sent. Last, oh, to my roommate to tell her. took the dog out linden out well it's her sister's dog but i love to watch it just because

like we're quarantined it's just nice to have someone like excited to see me when i get home absolutely that's my favorite part what now that i have two i'm like how did i come home to nobody before like before i had jason or the dogs like i was just coming home to like a big empty house i was like um okay the last the last uh thing you searched in your google search oh um how to take off dip nail polish and did you find an answer because the people need to know no i did not well i got acetone and it like it has not worked my nails look so ratchet right now i won't even i refuse to show anybody my nails right now they're discussing uh okay the last date you went on oh this is a disappointment um last date i i've had kind of like like uh uh

FaceTime date. Oh. Well, yeah. Because we're quarantined. We're quarantined. You know, like, I've had, like, someone dropped me off coffee. Oh. I've had someone drop me off coffee.

But since, like, times are different, you know, like, I guess that could be considered kind of a date. Because if not, it would literally be, like, the show. Yeah. No. Wait. Do we know this person? Are we allowed to know who?

I call him mystery man. Oh, mystery man. Okay. Um, would we know who he is or no? some people might it's not from bachelor nation or anything okay okay that's fair when when will you reveal mystery man oh well i'm not going to be exclusive with anyone for a while i'm just like getting to know different people you know as much as i can like virtually during like quarantine because it's weird because you know i got off the show i was engaged then i was single but couldn't

go out you know couldn't go on a date or really text anyone because you know people would know yeah i wasn't you know aged and then after the show we go straight into being quarantined i'm like oh my gosh my dating life is like so dull seriously you're really going to fall in love with yourself after all this that's crazy okay well does mystery man know that you're not committed and that you want to date other people yes oh yes yes it's just like a nice like little quarantine fling you know everybody needs one of those you just keep it fun and flirty I'm into that. The last thing you ordered in for food.

Oh, California Pizza Kitchen. I love their cauliflower pizza. So good. But with lots of different spices and flavors. With lots of different spices and flavors. Yeah. And then the last time you were starstruck. Last time.

You. Stop. You little. I was like, no, I was like kind of anxious for this. interview because I'm like oh my gosh I'm going to like see her and no I've been a huge fan well that is so sweet that just made me love you even more thank you for saying that I'm like in a greasy ponytail just sitting I tried to give you some good lighting for this interview but um very good lighting nice eyebrows nice skin you look great oh I was going to say the same thing about you I'm like I love your eyebrows

it's such a thing for girls to say isn't it I just got them my friend just tinted them for me my roommate or like tinting eyebrows like trying to learn how to like do nails have you heard of this laminating eyebrow thing no what is that okay after we're done this interview just go google um that will be your next google search it will um eyebrow laminating it's like a new thing that like keeps them lifted and bushy and upwards and i want to do it so badly and you could do like an at home kit so look into it really yeah i mean we need all the at home beauty kits we can right now I am not a do-it-yourself kind of gal with when it comes to, like, beauty, but I did cut my own hair the other day. And I think some people that listen to the podcast know this, but I did, I took hair school or I took cosmetology for like three years.

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because, oh yeah, people really want to know what you think about Peter and Kelly hanging out. That's like everyone's main question. Oh, yeah, no, everyone's. I am just kind of like, oh, that's cool, I guess. That's never happened before, right? As a Bachelor, like going back to like the fifth person. I don't know.

I feel like, well, if you look at, like, no shame, Hannah B. she went from Jed to Tyler to Peter to Tyler I don't know what's going on there but they all I feel like a lot of people go back and like talk to different people I don't know I don't know I'm going to say that this is like hey hey another shot yeah I that would be really hard to do but yeah I don't know like I guess who knows how much they're hanging out you probably know more than I do but everyone wanted to know how you feel about it where it's so hard because it's for for me I'm like I've been in the position where it's like you want to move on and you want to move on and you know you're probably know more than I do and And you want to not, you know, think about that or care about it. So you're like, I don't know what to say. Well, and the thing is, is that, like, I met Kelly through the show. And so it's not like, and like, I'm cool with Kelly. Like, we're not going to be best friends or anything.

But I'm definitely cool with her. But so it's not like, oh, this was like my best friend, like from now she's dating, like, my ex-fiance, you know? Right. Because we met through the show. Such a weird thing, though, because in real life, if that has. happened you'd be like bitch what you're doing but in bachelor world you're like well you know like what can i do that you know that's just like part of the show and it it's just such a weird thing to say out loud like you know she was my friend and we're cool but she's dating my ex fiancee so

whatever like that just you know yeah like we aren't going to be best friends or anything but i mean she's she's always been nice to me so yeah yeah okay well i mean i'm not going to be angry about it you know like i'm not going to be angry about it because like i'm just glad to be out of it you know like i'm not missing out of anything yeah exactly you're like have fun have fun with that one yeah you have fun with that one yeah you have fun with that okay and then katie said at the proposal part of the final rose typically contestants will give one final spiel to the bachelor pouring their heart out before seeing if they are the one or not she said i noticed you didn't do that how come i did oh you did they just didn't show it

gosh yeah I did I was so proud of my speech too like I literally poured out my heart and when I felt cut I was like oh darn it there's probably so many of those moments yeah I'm like I didn't really know because I guess it would have been like more made more sense for like the audience or for the audience to see like more mine and then his

but I guess I didn't have I guess that was one less thing I had to like see was there one thing from your whole season that you wish they showed that they didn't. Was it that moment maybe? Probably that moment, moments of us being excited after the proposal or really just my inner, his interaction with my family and then my interaction with his family, because like we have like a lot of time there and like some really great moments. That would have been cool for the audience and be like, okay, yeah, we definitely see their connection. Because I feel like for the viewers, it probably just seemed like our proposal came out of nowhere, you know, but there's a lot of built up. A lot of like serious conversations

about our futures and like real life conversations that people didn't get us to see that's so unfortunate because I feel like that would have been better for us to see that not not I mean it's tough now looking back because it didn't work out so it's like well we didn't need those conversations but just during the show or during the airing of it it would have been nicer to see those moments especially because I think we wanted to see more of those moments from you like I don't think they showed enough of your real conversations and that you know I just think people would have liked to get to know you a little more and they could have by hearing those conversations so anyways they can now because now you can you know do interviews go on podcasts

and like tell your side of the story and then and then the real the good stuff happens when you're out of contract that's all I'm saying um the real juicy stuff the real juicy stuff I'm always like, when do people's contracts end? I want to talk to them. Okay, so at the end of my podcast, I like to give away an Instagrammy where I tell somebody like a really good account to follow that kind of just, you know, in the mindless scrolling, I think a lot of people get frustrated or, you know, do the comparison thing. And so I wanted to give a shout out and an Instagram me away to the calm app. Do you ever use this for meditation? Oh, yes, yes, yes.

I've heard of this app. It's amazing. Okay. Get the app, but you can also follow them on Instagram. They have a really great Instagram account. It forces you to pause, take a breath, have a moment to yourself. Their Instagram account is just at calm. They're helping people to less, stress less and live better. And sometimes they'll do a live, like an Instagram live, where you can just meditate. And I'm obsessed with meditation. So I love that. And I'm going to give them an Instagramie for the podcast today. Oh, I'm going to download that. yeah you got to download it well thank you so much for being on the podcast and once this is all over we'll do another one in person and because i'm out that way all the time so um we'll get to actually hang on in person and that'd be so much fun absolutely we'll have a glass of wine we'll hang out and is there anything else that you wanted to say um before we go did i everything's good no yes

everything's good then just thank you so much for having me i can't wait to like see you have a glass wine and like for it really has that soon and let's hope in the next couple months so stay safe and you're doing all the right things and and you're you don't need me to tell you you're a strong badass woman because you know that oh thank you so much that means a lot absolutely thanks for listening to off the vine grape therapy tune in to hear new minisodes every Thursday and check out new full-length episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcast.1.com, the Podcast One app,

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