Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Leave It Advice with Duck Master & DWTS's Alan Bersten

Episode Date: March 17, 2022

Today's little special guest, Alan, hops on the mic with Kaitlyn to talk all about his experience as the Duck Master at the Peabody Hotel... a true honor. She tests his Duck Mastery with riveting duck questions and they even answer the compelling question, “Does a duck’s boner drag in the weeds?” In this episode, we find out that Alan is more than just a Duck Master - he is also really shitty at giving advice. The two dive into the OTV Hotline to give some “Take It or Leave It” advice and we would say, for this round, leave it. Kaitlyn and Alan also reminisce about the DWTS tour, drop who their dance partners would be if they got to choose, and Kaitlyn finds out if Alan had a spark with any of his former DWTS partners. KB & her little mosquito have come a long way. STARBUCKS - Starbucks Baya Energy drink is available online, at grocery stores, convenience stores, and gas stations nationwide. HELIX - Helix is offering up to $200 off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for my listeners at HelixSleep.com/vine.  LIVING PROOF - Go to LivingProof.com/VINE and use code VINE to get 10% off your first purchase. SAKARA - Right now, Sakara is offering our listeners 20% off their first order when they go to Sakara.com/VINE or enter code VINE at checkout.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Sakara.com slash Vine or enter code Vine at checkout. Okay, Binos, you have to try the new Starbucks buy a energy drink with caffeine naturally found in coffee. Fruit. It is energy. That's good. Podcast One presents Off the Vine Grace Therapy. Caitlin Bristow's going to answer your question. Drink to your confessions and hear what you have to say about anything Bachelor. Let's shake it up some more. Here's Caitlin. Welcome to Great Therapy. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, and got a little special guest with me.

What's your name over there? A little special guest, Atlin. What did you call the guy George? Costanza. Yeah, what was his little? He's a gnat. A gnat. A gnat.

Can he spell nat? N-A-T. No. Oh, shit. K-N-A-T-T. Oh, another thing I'm really good at, Whartle. Okay, I'm really good at Wordle.

You're good at Wordle, but I'm good at Wordle. You're just fast and don't care. I take my time and get it right. I have never missed one. Well, yeah, me either, but, okay, I miss one, one. But anyways, Matt is spelled G-N-A-T. Oh, shit, yeah. I wouldn't have got that on Wordle, but is that even a G-N-A-D.

Nope, four-letter word. We're in the clear. And mehoo, Alan and I do a little catch-up. We talk about our highs and lows of tour life. Catch-up chips. Alan gives some dating advice. Stay tuned. Take it or leave it, probably leave it.

Definitely leave it. We play a little game of how do you proceed. Alan gives us a rather shitty confession, but mine trumps it. Mine wasn't that shitty. I feel like people will really, really connect and not like that. I missed it. It'll be 70-30. 70. I bet you 80, 20.

80. 20. Okay, well, we're going to take a full. Everyone loves my confession. Okay. Everyone might relate to it, but 20% of people will. No, 30. Anyways, we hope you enjoyed today's podcast, don't we on? Yeah. I really do. Okay. It was fun. This is podcasting on the road, okay? Usually I'd have you in a studio, and we'd have lighting and cameras, but you know what? You get the

dothmaster himself organically in the, what is this, the Peabody Hotel in Memphis, Tennessee. How are you feeling, Mr. Have we started? Yeah. You didn't say action. Action. There we go. Oh, yeah.

I'm feeling great. You all of a sudden have your radio voice on. Okay, so you just did what? I am an honorary duckmaster here at the Peabody Hotel. What does that mean? Well, apparently this hotel is famous. because twice a day they like walk the ducks. Yeah, but where does it originate?

Where does the story? As a duck master, 81 years ago, I believe. Wait, I think you're close. The owner of the hotel was like a duck hunter or something, he thought it would be funny if they brought ducks into the lobby or something like that. You don't know what you're talking about. I didn't pay attention. I was nervous.

There's a lot of people watching. If you're going to be the man who is the duck master, you got to know duck facts. I do. Okay. Tell me one fact about a duck. The mallard is a duck with green stuff on it. Duck facts. Okay, listen, the legend of the ducks in 1940,

Bellman Edward Pembroke, a former circus animal trainer offered to help with delivering the ducks to the fountain each day and taught them the now famous Peabody Duck March. You were the ringleader of the ducks. Well, I'm a duck master. Okay, well, then I'm, going to give you a game of true or false duck facts.

Are you doing this on the fly? Yeah, I am. Good for you. That's good. I'm impressed. Okay, ready? Cold temperatures don't register for ducks. I'm going to say that is true because they can regulate their own body here.

Are you making that up? No. Oh. Yeah, you're right. I'm a duck master. Okay. Do ducks boners drag in the weeds? Is that actually written?

Are you making that of yourself? You have to decide if it's true or false. Oh, that is true. It actually is. I'm a duck master. I always say, like, you know how people say, oh, does a pope pray on Sundays or like, does a bear shit in the woods? Sure. I say, does a duck boner drag in the weeds?

And it in fact does. So that was one of your own questions. You didn't read that. Yeah. Ducks have very poor vision I'm going to go out and say false Damn it Yes they have great vision

I'm good Okay maybe you are the duck master I am the duck master Okay Some ducks have expensive taste True What the hell Did you just Google

Duckbacks before coming over here Because you're getting them right Of course everyone knows that Okay Not only my duck master I'm always right as well Okay, do ducks have a favorite color? You're not even looking at the phone anymore.

You're just making things up. Ducks have a favorite color, true or false? I'm going to say true. Me. They do their favorite color. Okay, scientists know that many ducks show a preference for the color green or colors closest to that spectrum like blue. I'm good.

I'm done with duckbacks. I think that's five for five. You know what? I was going to make fun of you, but now I actually think you are the duck master. It's pretty impressive. This cane is awesome. I got a cane. I got a certificate.

Like you are an honorary duck master? Yeah. Did you sign it? No, it came. The lady signed it with my name in it. Okay. How many people were watching you master the duck? Oh, minimum, minimum 16 people.

No, for real? No, there's a lot of people. The lobby was full. And they came to watch you. And what do you do with the ducks? I did a little ringer on the rosy. They were on the fountain. Okay.

You know, gathered the ducks. Put my ducks in a row. And then me and five ducks walked into an elevator. This sounds like a joke. I have a video. Okay. Then we took the elevator up to the penthouse. Just you and five ducks.

Me and the ducks and the other duckmaster and Neil. Because he was filming. There's another duckmaster? Like the main duckmaster. Oh, the honor. Oh, okay. You're like a co-duckmaster. No, honorary.

Okay. Same thing. Assistant to do the regional duck master. Okay. So you had to travel. You don't watch the office? No. Okay. This podcast is on. Wait, did you say do I watch the office? Yeah. Oh, yeah, but I don't know what you're talking about.

Assistant to the regional manager. Yeah. What's his name, Dwight? Jesus Christ. What? Have you not seen the office? I have. It's just. No, I have. I'm putting my cane down. You haven't. Please do. You're scaring me with that thing.

We're not talking about the office. We're talking about Duff. Anyways, we went up to the penthouse. They have their own penthouse upstairs. Okay. And what happens up there? There's a fountain? They live there. Stop. Yeah. No, there's like two fountains. Like, you can see it, but you can't go in it. I actually can see a button in the elevator that said like Duck Penthouse or something. Yeah.

What the hell? And is that good for them? Like, are they happy up there? I didn't have. I mean, we didn't talk that much in the elevator. You know, like in the elevator, you know, like in the elevator. Yeah, it's awkward elevator. This is silent. You're just silent. The ducks were silent in the elevator. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah. What a perfect opportunity for you to get to know a duck. And you know, it's one guy and four girls. Really?

Yeah. Do they mate? I didn't ask. There's kids in the audience. I didn't want to ask. Yeah, that's what that's elevator talk. Again. Anyway, you can look it up.

Do ducks at orgies. Yeah, they do. True or false. That's true. Obviously, one and four. It's not going to leave one out. Okay, well, we've established that you are the duck master. You're very talented.

You, do you sing? Can you sing? I dabble. Oh, boy, that's a no. Okay, you clearly dance. You are a duck master. Play piano. You play piano, chopsticks.

Do I sing? Are the bones their money? You tell me. Because the bones are their money. The worms are their dollars. They'll pull your hair up, but not out. They've never seen so much food as this. Underground, there's not much food as this.

Exactly. I'm not even going to explain that one. I just want people to, like, marinate them what that just was, or if they know about it. If you look it up, you'll look it up. Google it. Alan and I have matching shirts that say the whole song on it. And we sing it every day. You'd think people get annoyed, but all of a sudden, we'll be, like, walking through the bus.

And everyone's like, the funds are their money. It's actually really funny. It was like 2.30 in the morning, two nights ago, we were playing Yucur. Yeah. Me and was a Neil, me and Neil, me and Neil, beat you and Kelly are PT. It was a very close kid. There's a winner and there's

a loser. Did you win? No. Exactly. So you... Exactly. So the bones are their money. But your freaking box. No way. No way. Um, and we're going to get a complaint than them. Yeah, below. I'm going to be like, someone's hitting the duck stick up there. Anyway, it was like 2.30 in the morning. Everyone's sleeping in the bus.

And Caitlin just yells. And the bones are their money. What the hell is going on here? I also think I punched you on my way by in my room. I just put my fist into your bunk and hoped I hit your nose. It didn't. Oh, my gosh. Okay.

I've had to live with me for two months now. Tell me your highs and lows of our friendship. Or have you learned anything about me that people would be maybe surprised to hear? No. I mean, you're an open book. I know. I share everything. The highs are probably sweetheart.

Sweetheart are the highs. Okay. A little inside joke. We have to explain it. Well, no, I think we just leave it as that. Otherwise, it's not, no, I'm kidding. So it was early on. We were in Omaha.

It's always around Yucre. We were playing Yucre. It was me and Caitlin versus Emma and our tour manager, Neil. We arrived at Omaha. It was probably two in the morning. Yeah. Everyone got off the bus because we had hotels waiting for us. we stayed on the bus till four in the morning

playing Yucre. Yeah. You don't know Yucur, it's a card game. You got to learn. You got to learn it. If you're from the Midwest, you know it. If you're not, you don't. But you've got to learn it.

I was from the Midwest and didn't know it. Yeah, I know. But apparently, and Jason plays it, you said? Yeah, Jason plays it. He's not from the Midwest. But I think my stepdad taught it to him. And I feel like he thinks he knew it before that, but he didn't. But it's a very challenging game.

And it, you know, you got to trust your. partners. So you played partners. And Caitlin and I were partners. It was the first night I ever played Yucer. Yeah. And I was on a bender. I was, I was on a heater. I was winning everything left and right. And Alan isn't really the sweetest partner to have. You know that's a lie. You're not, you mean well deep down, but your sense of humor is to be harsh. Okay. Fair enough. Sense of humor. Some people get it. So if I messed up. It was a guess. Alan would call me an idiot. No. Caitlin drank a lot that night. Whiskey, if I'm not mistaken,

the whiskey came out. Scotch. Scotch, McAllen, 12. Yeah, yeah. And she was just like, be nice to me. Call me sweetheart. And so randomly, I was like, you got this sweetheart. And she loves it ever since.

So now if I ever say sweetheart, she just burst out into tears. It's so funny because you're usually like, shut up, Caitlin. You're so stupid. I have never said it. Yes, every day. and I know you're joking so that when you say sweetheart, it makes me L.O.L because it doesn't sound right coming out of your mouth. It's just awkward.

It's because Neil was being so supportive to Emma. That's what it was. Neil was like, yes, Emma, that's my partner. And Alan would be like, get your shit together, Caitlin. And I'm going to be nice to me. So now he always calls me sweetheart. I'm pretty sure we won, though. We did.

Yeah. Yeah. I call these sweetheart. So that's why. Another high. I work well. You work so well under pressure. And under positive energy.

Oh, I'm going to say, under pressure. Well, I do fall under pressure, too. But I agree. Yucre and playing cards has, well, that and being able to dance every night has been a high. What is a low? Um, honestly. Have you had to poop on the bus yet? No, not this tour.

This, I don't know if there's many lows this tour. It's just been hard, but nothing like to complain about. I think it's interesting because, you. you guys are so used to doing like ballroom on these tours and now you've had to throw in like contemporary and a little like hip-top and there's not enough ballroom and there's not enough ballroom I get it you got it I got it that's funny that was good one yeah I'm prepping all day and then you slipped on your own sweat one night oh that's got to be alone that's got to be it was only like four days ago I forget guys I I wish I slipped on my sweat did you post it though you did oh yeah yeah I it's so funny slipped on my sweat I wish I slept on my sweat I wish I slept on my sweat. I think you're like so much. Gave out. It was a day after the day off. Yeah. So, first show back is always tricky.

Yeah. I had an hour and a half massage the night before. Oh, that. So I was in. I was feeling. Your legs were like jelly. Lucy, Lucy over here. Lucy ducks over here. And I was dancing. And I by myself just completely ate it. Yeah.

Got up real slow. But yeah, the funniest part is I feel like you're usually good at a recovery if something happens, but you didn't even realize you were on the floor and you were, like, looking around, like, am I down here right now? How did I get down there? I don't know. I watched it all happened from backstage,

and it was wildly impressive how fast you were going from standing up to being on your ass. And how fast did I get back up the video? You can, you'll judge yourself. I posted it. It was two counts. Okay, it wasn't as bad as you falling. It was worse than me falling.

No way. You were in the front. You tripped. You tripped over yourself. No, I tripped. over Danny's foot. She can tell you that. I tripped over Danny's foot. I stumbled and I just went right back into Don't be a drag. Just be a queen.

It looked like you wanted to start the dance over. Well, I did. I am not used to this. And I'm like, can we just do this again? We just guys, you know how did we start this one over? Yeah, like, and Del's done that at her show. When she like makes my mistake, she's like, no, I got, I got to do it justice. Can we start over? It's a little different, though. I am. You're not a devil. Damn it. You're right. Okay, fair enough.

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Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. But yeah, again, there's no lows. I feel like touring is so fun. Do you love it? I love it way more than I even thought I would. What has been your best part? favorite part of tour? This is going to sound cheesy, but I just feeling like, I don't even want to

your horn, but like being on the same caliber of all the professional dancers and like being on that stage and dancing. Yeah. You know what I mean. I'm kidding. Being on stage. I'm like, oh, shit, I did it. I will say you were really good at learning.

Yeah. And trying to dance. You taught me like. Remember? Yeah. So the very first week before the show even started, tell them. They're like, oh, we forgot to teach Caitlin this.

Alan, go teach you really quickly. We went to the side of the stage in five minutes she learned. And I was like, wow, this is actually really easy. Yeah. Why was it so hard for you in Artem to win? It was a challenge. Up and downs. That's a whole other story, though.

But if you could dance with any celebrity that's been on, just, why you just say me? If you can dance with any bachelorette that's been on the show. Baxter had this been on the past season, Hannah or me and why me? Just kidding. No, you want me to dance with you? Well, I just think we would be good. Let's go back to this question.

Okay. After being on tour with six of the male pros, if you had to come back and be a partner with one of the male pros, why would it be me? Okay, but I'm taking Ardham out of it because I've already danced with him. Well, Ardham can still be in the picture. No, no, I'm taking him out of the picture. It's not fair. I've already danced. Fine. Artem's out of the picture. Okay. I always said it would be Sasha because he's like so energetic. But Sasha told me that I'm too tall for him. So then I ruled him out. And then I haven't ever danced with him. But okay, I haven't never danced with him. No ruling people. Okay. You or Glep. Because you both make me feel very supportive. Like I feel like a strong ass dancer when I'm dancing with you too. Like I'm like, oh shit, I can do anything. And you've got me. so okay so you have to choose one person i choose you alan that's what i like to hear that's what i like to hear how did me fishing for you to say you want to dance me turned into

you fishing for me wanting to dance with you it's always about me kately i'm the guest the guest is always right this is why this podcast if we had a podcast together it would never work because it's all about me and you think it's all about you and we would just clash fair enough fair enough okay so we threw up a question box on instagram and got some good questions for you okay do you get paid to do the shows uh yes would you do it if you didn't the shows as a tv show or tour i always said it's your job okay i will say this if i won the lottery and i never had to worry about money yeah and i didn't have to dance i would still dance on the show i love it so much i feel that you know if if there was a way to just live my life and keep dancing and not worry about money

yeah i would 100% not change what i do i would keep dancing on dancing on stars and then go on tour i love it yeah it's so fun it's so fun i used to say like i would do the show if i didn't get paid yeah but then i got paid and i was like never mind um somebody wants to know is alan actually funny i'll let you answer that one he has his mom you laugh you're funny let's be real you laugh most because of me on tour it's not even up for debate you but i barely see you i see you like an hour day. No, you don't. When we're not on the bus.

I have this weird combination of feelings where I want to punch you right in the throat. And then I also think you're like one of the funniest people I've ever met. And it's very confusing. Yeah. It's like, um, you haven't watched Seinfeld, obviously. Yes, they have. Oh, you have? Yeah.

Like, you love it. But friends is better. I've already talked about this. I'm not even to use that as my confession. I have never seen the full friend. That's stupid. That's stupid. Seinfeld's better.

Okay. In my humble opinion. That's fine. Anyways, what I was bringing up is the point that George Costanza is like he's a little like Nat. Well, yeah, that is you. Yeah, it's like, uh, Stanza. Oh, it's good about that.

Do you run that one? Nope. But that is you. It just gets stuck in your head. I get stuck in your head. Yeah. I live in your, in your brain rent free. Uh, I wouldn't say that.

Is that what the kids are saying? That is. The kids do say that, but I wouldn't say that. No, that's what the kids are saying. I would say you. Here's what, somebody asks what surprises me about you. I thought I would be more annoyed at you, but I actually really enjoy being around you. Thanks, Kate.

Now, let's move on and suddenly stop putting your tires. Next question. Yeah, Alan's okay. Okay. What is your favorite routine in the tour? Oh, I have two probably. I love Sing, Sing, Sing. Yeah.

You like that one? Yeah. It's fun. I think it's a different energy for everything that's going on. And what style of dance is that? That's a good quick step. Oh, yeah,

yeah. Did you do a quick step? I did Charleson at the end, but not your step. Yeah. Diamonds are a girls with friend. Yeah. Fun fact,

Caitlin got a tattoo of diamonds. I did. They all know. They all know. But yeah. So sing, sing, sing is fun just because it's high energy and I'm pretty high energy. And you start off the number by playing the piano and getting the audience involved.

And you do a whole little bit. The whole little bit that I came up with. It's pretty funny. if I say so sometimes I like the timing I have to be perfect with the timing and I think two nights ago you and Cocoa were watching and I was way out I was going to ask you that because the track that's playing you have to speak in between the piano playing over the track and like I thought the sound guy out there was just pressing play when you were ready no oh that's tricky yeah okay that's that's actually really hard yeah it's and you jump over the piano I mean I'm enough how can we forget It's a fun dance. I like it a lot. It's really fun. And then I also like Runaway.

Yeah. Which is the contemporary with Coco. Now, because you're on, so you think you could dance, did you have to do contemporary during that? I did. Oh, you did? I did. Oh, do you feel confident in contemporary dancing? Um.

Because you do two in the show. I know. I don't know why. Brandon's much better. Yeah, Brandon's really good at contemporary. He's like a contemporary kid. Yeah. A lot of contemporary kid, but like an all-style skit.

I'll say that I feel confident in the ones that I do on the show because they're they're good and I helped make them. Yeah. But the one with Cocoa runaway, that Talia choreographed. Yeah. I feel like it's really good. It's she like told me right away. She's like, I don't want you to try to be a contemporary answer. I just want you to do it the way you would do it. And I think that makes it so much better.

God, I hate that I have to pump your tires on a podcast. You've gotten better every show, I feel like. Oh, you think so? Yeah, like you get more into it. Like when Coco runs over you and you get more, like, passionate about it. And I feel like you're letting go more every time. I'm surprised you can see while you're dancing it. I know.

I'm on and I are backstage. Oh, my cat. Oh, you can go. I'm going to come everywhere. Do this dance on the side of the stage. There's videos of it, no? Yeah. Oh, I've got a whole montage of us.

You have to, I'm going to teach you guys how to do the handstand. You already taught me, and I did it. But he's got to do a lot of the work. But it's a fun dance. And, you know, every time I do the arm windmill, I look at you guys. Yeah, we're doing it in the wings with you. Am I doing it right? Yeah, I'm doing it right because they're doing it.

I am the leader. And you follow me. One night, you could do it. Maybe one night I could be a duck master. I doubt it. You're afraid of ducks. Yeah, I actually really couldn't. Is it common for partners to hook up celeb and pros?

and pro pros is it common for everybody to hook up it's what it is i don't know if it's common i don't know if it's common yeah but over all of the years obviously there's a lot of people that it's kind of like bachelor world everyone kind of dates each other and hooks up and like it's very small and i feel like it was different back in the day because not a lot of the pros are married yeah but like look at artem and nicky they they fell in love on the show we have a few of these different couples that have fallen in love on the show

like Robert and Kim Robert Hershebeck and Kim Johnson I don't even know who that is how so he's the shark tank guy oh right and she was a pro

and they have kids together oh yeah I forgot that happened yeah I didn't know that I didn't know that and then there's you know so many of the pros that are married together yeah but I just feel like you spend every day with each other and when you're with the part

or like a celeb and a pro yeah it's like an arranged marriage yeah you know that's true and and dancing is so passionate so if you guys are both single and you're around each other and you guys like don't hate each other yeah i feel like there's always a chance for a romance that's true i mean it would be fun if two people were single and you got to have that like flirty dancing and stuff on the dance floor that'd be fun. Like a fiery chika. Like a fiery, like one fiery chika. I think, yeah, I, I, I'm sure it's a lot of fun for the celebrity as well.

Yeah. For the pros, for example, we have so much pressure. Yeah. Because we want to do well. We want you to do well. We don't want to get distracted, you know. Was there ever a spark between you and Hannah? I think the microphone, I'm like, okay.

You know, I, she, she was, she just came off right off the bench, right? there was so much going on for her she we had we had we yes or no what do you mean by spar like was there like like any romance behind it because I know both of you so I'm it's hard for me to even there but was there I never acted on it oh okay did she I don't know I'm not we never acted on it because I get it I didn't want to get there I thought there was a real opportunity to win yeah and I didn't You don't want to risk. You are very professional.

Yeah. And because she had, my elastic just broke in my hair. Huh. I'm saying, no, there's always, remember I told you what Tommy the ghost? Yeah, it is. Because Hannah wrote a little something in her book where it made no sense to me because she was, when I was even friends with her and hanging out with her, she was texting you. And she was like, yeah, Caitlin's going to be on this season and like, who do you think she's

partnered with? And you guys seemed like you were cool. And then her book, she kind of. She kind of dissed you a little. A little bit. You know, it was hurt. It was hurtful. Yeah.

I never read the book. I never got it. She said she was going to send it to me, never sent it. Uh-uh. Yeah. But, I mean, like, I try to give my partners the best experience possible. I don't think I'm actually mean. I can be tough.

You're tough. But it's because I care. You know, it's a different. I think she was just so fragile in that. time that anyone could have come across to her as mean because she was so fragile. Yeah. You, I don't know. I don't want to, I don't want to assume what she.

Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to dismiss how she felt, of course. That's, I could write a book and I could say some things about Artem where he was pushing me too hard sometimes too. It's just, if that was her experience in that moment, I don't think you would ever want her to feel that. Yeah, no, I feel bad if that, if that's the experience she took away from it, I feel horrible because I want her to enjoy it.

And you probably just wish you'd talk to you about it. Yeah. But it's, I again, I wish that, you know, we were friends. And I mean, we were talking up until the day that the book got released and then she never texted me. It's interesting. Yeah. But it's okay. Take it or leave it, I guess.

That's what my next segment's called. Take it or leave it. Is it really? Yes. Yeah. I don't know if you know this about me, but I give great advice. Oh, great. Let's hear it.

What? I didn't know this about you. I never thought I would be one to be giving advice, but here I am in the taking or leave-at advice section. You've lived such a fruitful life. Fruitful, indeed. I also never thought I'd be on dancing with the stars tour, but here we're. Rividing. Compelling.

That's another thing. Alan and I always do in the pink greens. During the Q&A, we sit by each other sometimes. And when somebody's telling a story, I mean, no one on the show is going to listen to this podcast probably, right? They might. Not wrong. Not while we're on tour. yeah but even if they do it's not bad no it's funny somebody's talking we do it to each other

yeah it's actually really bad when we do it to each other because then it messes yeah but somebody in the like q and a will ask like oh what's your favorite coffee order and like someone will be like well on these days i will do a oat milk and we'll all and i just be like wow riveting how compelling it's so funny please go on yeah please continue Okay, anyways, my vinoes call in with questions, and it's called Take It or Leave It, where we give advice, they can take it and or leave it. And since I have you here with me, and we're very different humans, I thought it would be nice. Oh, I'm going to get the best advice. If we could give them advice, both from our point of views.

Okay, you're ready? Yes. 60% of the time, it works every time. Listen to this one. Oh, we got to listen? Yeah. It's a voicemail. Hi, Caitlin.

My name is Ashley. I am 30 years old, I am single, and I am hoping that maybe you could give me some advice on dating. Here is the catch, though. I am getting ready to graduate from graduate school and move to a new city for a new job, and that new job just happens to be becoming a female priest. so advice maybe for a female priest that is looking to be dating all right thanks bye that's kind of badass that's cool congratulations yeah congratulations that's freaking cool okay is the pope single is am i the worst person to give advice here i'm Jewish

I don't know if can priest date people yes priests can date people it's 2022 it's a woman priest No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I thought like priests. That was a plot twist. That was a plot twist. Aren't they like abstinent? I may be so wrong. No, I, you know what?

I should probably look this up before I say anything. No dating for you. Next. Our advice, no dick for you. I feel like Christian Mingle could be good for her. Oh, that's a good one. You see? Christian Mingle.

also let's just take priest out of it because that's just her job that doesn't define her yes so you just have to find somebody that aligns with with your beliefs yeah um almost uniquely among human occupations priests cannot marry nor can they engage in sexual acts I feel like I'm confused uh you're confused I'm fucking confused don't swear when we're talking about priests it's a TikTok trend you haven't seen that no oh it was perfect if you would have seen that you would have lost so hard can female priests date I feel like you wouldn't be any different yeah yeah well okay clearly he's asking for dating advice so you could date i would say christian mingle i would say christian mingle.com or i would say

oh my gosh you're totally going to meet someone in the church yeah i mean i feel like i don't want to sound cheesy, but I feel like God will make it happen. Yeah. I agree. You're like putting yourself in the perfect place to meet somebody. That aligns with your beliefs. Like a little hole will open from the ceiling and a bright

light will come down and that man will walk right into you. Okay. Yeah. This is why the advice is called take it or leave it. You've definitely leave that advice. Totally leave that advice. Well, are you good at dating? I am horrible at dating. What makes you terrible at dating? I don't know.

Because you love being alone. I don't love being alone. You don't like answering to people. I don't know. I'm really good at being alone because I think I force myself to be alone. Okay. You know, I feel like I don't love dating in the limelight. You know, so I don't love when people know everything about me.

Yeah. I do like to be a little privacy. I like a little bit of privacy. You're not like me where I just overshare everything. You like a little bit of privacy. Okay. But that doesn't make you bad at dating. No, but I feel like I sometimes try not to date for that reason.

Or maybe I don't want it to fail at dating. So I kind of reserve myself. Let's get deeper into this. No, let's not. Take it and leave it. You reserve yourself because you don't want to fail because you are an overachiever and you like to be the best at everything you do. And if you are going to have a relationship that fails,

you know me so well. no i don't think that look i i i'm going to say i don't think any relationship that fails is a failure no it's not it's always a learning lesson you learn from everyone even if it failed technically you still learned so much from it that you'll gain in the next relationship absolutely i agree with that completely so our dating advice is christian mingle christian mingle okay now i would leave the advice. Don't take it. Yeah, that was a tough one. Okay. Okay, I always like experimenting and changing up my beauty routine, especially when the seasons change. I can just, I don't know, feel really nice to hit the old reset button. I really am looking forward to taking better care of my hair after this tour

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Hi, Caitlin. I need some advice. I have been dating a guy for about, I don't know, two months. And it's good. I like him, but not sure yet. I should know, but I don't because I'm indecisive. Anyways, my friend met somebody who they want me to go out on a date with, and should I go out with this new person while I'm still dating the other guy?

I don't know what to do. I'm very indecisive and have a guilty conscious. Do I give this random person that my friend knows a shot or break it off and then give it a shot or I don't know. Help. Thanks. Bye. Good question. Great question.

And I've got a quote. Can you prepare for this? No. I will not listen to the voicemails until. Oh, good. Authenticity. Yeah. That's, I work better that way.

Wayne Gretzky said you miss 100% of the shots you don't take You know who else said that? Michael Scott Oh my god, he does say Michael Scott at the bottom But wait, that's a Wayne Gretzky

Yes, but in the office He writes down You miss 100% of the shots You don't take Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott It's the best, it's the best But yes So here's what I'm going to say on that.

Okay, I'm curious. I'm a very passionate guy and I feel like you know right away whether you are attached to somebody like that or if you're not and after two months again it depends how serious you date

you know like if you're seeing each other every day but after two months I feel like that's enough time to know if you want to continue dating that person or if you're interested in seeing somebody else I agree I think the main thing to acknowledge here is how does he feel? Does he think

you're exclusive. Does he say like we're not dating anyone else? Well, I feel like they are because she said, should I break it off and then see the other person? Gosh, that's a tough one. Okay, so you think she should just go and see how it goes? Oh, no. I think

I think she should break it off because she would know. If she really likes this person. She seemed very meh at the beginning of that voicemail. She was like, it's okay. I'm dating somebody for two months. Yeah. That's good. And you know what? Yeah. just tell him you still want to keep things open and that he's able to date other people

and that you're going to and you know if it's meant to be i feel like two months is pretty early on in a relationship still that if you did if you did break it off it's only two months you know like it's not the worst thing in the world that's true they say it takes half the amount of that relationship to get over it so if you were really which makes total sense I was with somebody for three and a half years And it took me almost two years to get over him So it's just been two months, you're fine Yeah

And I feel like I two months is the honeymoon phase Yeah You should be you should be like Oh my God, I don't want to see anyone else Yeah, okay I'm not going to tell you to break his heart though So do what you want

Yeah, communication Yeah, communicate with him Yeah See if you guys can take a break Like maybe he's like yeah I don't know about it either. Let's try and see other people. Okay.

Yeah. Hey, Caitlin. My name's McKenzie and I'm from Alabama. So basically I was in a long-term relationship with someone until like October of last year. I thought I was going to marry him. But then I found out some really crazy stuff. And I ultimately ended the relationship. And then I reconnected with someone.

I went to high school with, not even, like, two months later. I don't really know. It's really similar to what you went through, I think. I mean, obviously, I wasn't engaged and wasn't like that. But how do you approach a relationship like this so quickly after something so serious, I guess is my question. Anyway, I'm a huge fan, and hope to hear from you. Bye.

okay i'll let you answer this on camera well because you got through it i did to me i'm like i want to know what that weird shit was that she found out about because if he was doing something that was hurting her i'm like go move on fast no i think she did move on i think she's asking how like do you like she's saying she's ready for the next one already oh great no yeah i guess mine was a little different because for a year it was just going to shit it was It wasn't like I found one thing specific. It was like, this is weird. It was like a year of weird shit.

But it doesn't matter. Don't, you can't think about that person's feelings. If you're ready to move on. Keep playing it. I think she's done. She broke it off with you. Yeah, she did. She's asking how is it okay for her to move on this fast?

Because it's only been two months. Oh, live your life. Yeah. Yeah. I think you should just freaking forget about how everyone else would view. Like, I hate them. be like, it's moving on so fast. Well, who cares?

If somebody did something to you and you're over that relationship and you are trying to have a, like, you don't even know if this next person is the one. Go date. So it's been two months. Who cares? Great advice, Caitlin. Who cares? Who gives a shit?

I would say, do it for you and don't worry about what other people are going to think, if it's going to hurt that guy's feelings. If you're just worried about people being like, oh, you're moving on too fast. Don't worry about that. Yeah, don't worry about that. Go have fun with your little high school. sweetheart. That's fun. Yeah, the bigger problems to worry about the world right now. You do what makes you happy. Yeah, McKenzie. And if it's just going and rekindling a little

school relationship and then you're like, and the same for me either. Cool. If you find something beautiful, we won't judge you. No, take it or leave it. Take it or leave it. Oh, God, this segment. Sometimes I feel really good about it. And sometimes I'm like, I'm so sorry. Probably made things worse. Okay. Only two more on non-dating. Ready? What are you not dating? Well, those were dating ones. This is just advice that I need to take your week. This is my.

Hi, Caitlin. My name is Morgan, and I'm from Cleveland, Ohio. I'm a huge fan of yours, and I was just calling get some advice on how you do it all without feeling burned out. I'm also a fellow dog mom and trying to have a social life and working and stay fit and all that fun stuff. And I feel like you are just go, go, go all the time, but you always are so. passionate about everything you do so i was just trying to get some advice on how you just do it all and not get burned out and still make time for everything that's important to you um thank you so much love you and hope to hear from you soon i would say it's spain and sparrow does you go

yeah it's my fuel i think it's because i am so passionate about everything i do that that does keep me going but i i feel like i do get burnout as well like you should see her when she wakes up in the morning on the bus. We mean the morning. You mean four in the afternoon because I'm so burnt out. I think that way about the dancers, though. I'm like, I can't complain about being tired or feeling burnout because you guys are like the way you move your bodies and the amount of sweat of sweat that pours out of you and like

everything that you guys do. I'm like, how are you still going? And you work out in the mornings. What kind of psychopath are you? It's different though because you are doing so much. I mean, you have two podcasts. you have your own companies you dance yeah you put my singing career on hold on oh he's laughing i do have seen i trust me i heard oh you did remember i played it three multiple times yeah sing

us something caitland no absolutely not i've got a sore throat i've got a sore throat for like a month now oh that's amazing you don't know what that's from step brothers he's remember at the end when he's singing and he's like, I've got a sort of throw out. I've had a sore and throw out for like a month. Caitlin, okay, you remember in the beginning of the podcast? He asked me like what good things I remember about you or whatever.

Not good things that you learned about me. She can quote every movie from the genre of like dumb and dumber. Like what is that? Like a rom-com? Not rock-up. Oh, it's comedy. What is it? It's not a chick-black.

It's a comedy. Oh, it's a chick. Like Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, Dumb and Dumb and Dumber, our wedding pressures, step brothers, dodgeball. Yeah, like she can quote all Austin Powers. I feel like you're right. If you're passionate about something, you don't really get burnt out by it. Yeah.

You know, it's just. And if you do, you like, if you do get burned out by it, you're like, okay, what do I need to do for myself to regroup? And then you are like, well, thank God I get to do what I love. I think it's prioritizing what is most important to you. Yeah. Right? Yes.

What's most important to you, Caitlin? Oh, right now, God, it changes all the time. Well, right now. I mean, obviously, like, a fiancé and dogs are, like, a priority. But also, they don't seem like one because I'm doing everything else. But I feel like I don't really have a list of what's first. It changes. Okay, now priority, what are you most passionate about right now?

Oh, ooh. Honestly, I have been working so hard on this wine label stuff. because I want it to be available to everybody, and that is so hard to do. Everybody that, like, is high up in the wine world are men, and it's, like, a, like, dominated industry by men, and they don't believe in celebrity wines, and it makes me feel like they don't believe in, like, the power of my community, which I know is, like, it won me the mirror ball. Like, they will buy the wine.

Even if they don't drink wine, they'll, like, buy it as gifts. So I'm, like, like, really trying to, I guess for so many years, I've been. used to people coming to me to sell stuff like on your Instagram where now I'm having to hustle and go to like Target and Walmart and go to these higher ups and like prove myself where I'm like, God, just believe me. But it's so much more fun and rewarding. That's true. That's true. It is.

You know, and you do a really good job at it. I do like the hustle of it. How many meaning greets have we done and people are like, oh, we wish you could buy, we could buy your wine here. It's true. That's impressive. I got to give it to you. Thank you.

It's good wine. Where can you get your wine, Caitlin? Well, everyone knows that. Everyone knows Walmart. You don't even drink my line. I don't drink a lot. I drink. I saw you drink whiskey one time when we were gambling.

That's been a high too. All the casinos we've hit. Oh. Can we tell them? When we were in Hollywood, Florida this past, I don't know, like a week ago. Yeah. We were at a casino at the Hard Rock, and I hit a big jackpot on slot machines. Yeah.

Like big. Like, I was like, whoa, now it. And you only spent $100 and you only spent $100 and you won a lot. It was a lot. Like they had to like have security come, bring you a big check. Like it was like out of the movie. Not that big. Yeah, it was.

It wasn't like a novelty check. Oh, shoot. I didn't take a picture. Oh, okay. It was a little check. But security came and they had to like check the cameras and were people like surrounding you and be like, oh, God. A few people give me high fives.

That's all right. Yeah. Oh my God, that's amazing. But me and Caitlin, we gambled sometimes. Yeah, it was fun. I love play Blackjack. But that one time in Mahigan, Son, I got a little drunk. I don't think I'd drink since.

No, you haven't. You had a beer after you won the jackpot. You had a beer to celebrate. Oh, at the restaurant. It was really nice. Ellen took us all out for dinner and paid for everything. I was really nice to do. Yeah.

Wait, this is so funny. I always play a Would You Rather game a lot of times. And it says, I think this is the first for the lunch. OTV voicemails, but we got a would you rather question. And then it says, have you seen Austin Powers gold member? We were literally just talking about this last night. Okay. Front row bitch

from Chicago, aka. Shelby has a would you rather about gold member. What? Front row bitch. Oh, my podcast or from... Okay, let's just listen. Is her name, Ferro bitch? Front row bitch.

Okay, B, it's Front row bitch from Chicago aka Shelby I have a would you rather question for you would you rather eat gold members

flakes of skins that he pulls off his face good question or stuck in every single stinky fart that fat bastard shoots into a tube into your mouth Jesus front row

love you so much freaking front row bitch. I would hands down eat gold member's skin. His flaky skin? Yeah. Flaky skin is just like melt in your mouth. Yeah. Some of them are salty. Some might be sweet. They just melt in your mouth.

A sucking a fart on a fat bastard. I'm going to throw up thinking about it. Yeah, that's actually gross. Yeah. That was easy. That was easy. Gold member skin all day every day. Okay, another thing we do on the pod is confess our secrets and drink them away with wine. So I've told you to prepare.

a confession and I got a really good one for you. It's not as riveting as yours. Caitlin, how do you know? You don't know mine yet? I don't know, but three nights ago, she got out of the bathroom and she took out her phone and wrote down a note and she was like, I just got my confession. I was like, okay. You know it's good if I come out of the bathroom and have to

write it down in my notes. Well, then I'm going to go first because yours is going to be better. I don't know. I promise. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. I have never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. That's bad, but it's not that bad. That's not bad. But, like, everyone was obsessed with it.

And I was like, yeah, yeah, oh, man, Calices. I do picture you getting into that. Yeah, I don't know. Do you want to? Or you just, did you try? No, I tried. I probably watched four minutes of the first episode. I was like, uh.

I get that, though. That's a good confession. because I feel like a lot of people will think you're crazy. Everyone loves Game of Thrones. Yeah. I watched a season and I had to watch it with like the subtitles on. And then I had to get like Google family trees to keep up with like who's who. And I was like this reeks of a lot of work.

Yeah, it's just a lot of work. And I like to just like put on Grey's Anatomy as you know and take up all the buswif I and go to sleep. You know, fun fact, I only watch TV shows and movies with subtitles. And we do all the time. Really? Yes. And I'll tell you why. It makes you better at English.

That's not why I do. I dated a guy who is a dancer and he had a cochlear implant. And so when he took it out, he obviously couldn't hear it. And he watched everything with subtitles. And when I was like, I was like 20. And so ever since then, I've realized how much more I pay attention to a show or how much I take in from the show. I like understand what's going on better if I'm reading it while watching. Well, you know, you learn better when you read.

Yeah. You know, like a book on tape doesn't register. as well as actually reading it. Do you? Yeah, I do. I love reading. Perivitic. And compelling.

But yeah, so Game of Thrones, never seen an episode. Okay. That's pretty good. We'll rate that. We'll put it up on Off the Vine Instagram and see how bad of a confession that is because a lot of people are very passionate about that show.

People are passionate. Yeah. Okay. Mine is much worse. Yeah, I can't wait. So we were obviously playing cards as we do on the buzz. Yeah. And we get up for DM every week.

So we get like a little envelope of cash for food or if we don't have catering, they'll give us cash to go eat something. And I hadn't collected mine in a hot minute. So I put mine in my pants. So I went to go to the bathroom and I dropped like $500 cash into my pee. Continue to pee on it. No, I didn't know. I didn't know it was in there.

Oh, okay. I got up and I was like, oh shit. So I had to reach in my own pee, pull out two envelopes of cash that were drenched. In the meantime, the bus went, I dropped the envelopes into the garbage can where people wipe and put it in the garbage can, because you can't flush anything down the toilet. So now I've dropped my $500 buildup of cash from the pee toilet into the garbage can of wipes and had to reach in there and get it out. That's disgusting. And then air dry it. You were in the bathroom for a long time.

Yeah, that's why. But also, that's disgusting because you, like, touched me afterwards. I washed my hands. It does. You, in pee? I, no, I scrub. I made you smell my fingers. I scrubbed.

That's disgusting. Yeah, but they smell like soap, right? That's disgusting. But it smelled like soap, right? I don't remember any. You even said, oh, that smells. I scrubbed my hands like four times before I came back out. Wow.

And I was like, you know what? That would have been really funny to come out and tell you that story. But I was like, I'm saving that for the podcast. Yeah, well, I'm glad you did. Thanks. That's impressive. Yeah. Okay.

Last thing on the pod tonight. Did you, wait, before, did you spend that money? Like, that's disgusting. No, it's still air dried in the back room. I did see those two little envelopes. Yeah, that's what it is. Ooh, that's disgusting. Isn't that bad?

It sucked. I had to reach in. I had to touch the wipes. Yeah, but it is your own pee. Yeah, but not the white. wipes. Yeah. Oh, I was sick.

Wait, I had a better question. What? When you walked out of the bathroom, where did you put the money? I took it to the back. No, you didn't. You walked right out of the bathroom and then grabbed your phone and wrote down the notes. Shut up. I'm not joking.

Where did you put in the pocket? I'm pretty sure you went straight to the. No, I took it to the back. Yeah, because it's like your turn. No, I tell. I remember, I took it to the back. I put the two envelopes in the cup holder. Maybe after we played cards.

Maybe. That's disgusting. I know. That's why it's a good confession. That is not bad. Okay. I play a little game called How Do You Proceed? You know, I've told you about this game.

You've warned me. I've warned you. So we're going to play How Do You Proceed about dancing? Maybe. Whatever you want. Okay. You look out into the audience and lock eyes with the woman of your dreams.

She's staring at you and you get a boner. How do you proceed? Okay, I added the boner by how I was in a nap. You know, it's pretty hard to get a boner while you dance. Yeah, I literally just add. I know. I just added that though. Okay, but you lock eyes with the woman of your dreams.

Do you have game? Like, would you wink? Do I have game? Yeah. Do you have game? I don't know. I don't think so. I would say my flirting is like a fifth grade flirting.

Like, I'll punch her. You do. You pinch. You pinch and you punch and you like name call. Yeah. Yeah, you got to get better. Yeah, sweetheart. That's how you know I'm not flirting. Yeah. When you're being nice, I'm like, yeah, that's, oh my God, your stupid duck cane just feels like. It's not stupid. It's actually impressive. I will say, I'll probably keep dancing and like really like, you know. Yeah. Because like she's there to watch me. Okay. You literally break a leg. How do you proceed? that sucks

I'd probably crawl off stage Have you ever broken Or like injured yourself And then kept dancing Yeah once A few times One time I was dancing On a cruise

Like performing And there was like a really big wave And I jumped And I landed and like Snap my ankle It was bad And like I were like I kept doing a show

But like I was out for like two weeks And then like I got acupuncture Every single day for like four months and I kept dancing I was on a world tour wow yeah so it happened and then like two weeks later I went to Australia really yeah Australia and then Japan for like three months dang it can't go oh no you should have your king I didn't I wasn't a duck master line oh my god okay you are put in front of a lie detector test you have to say your favorite partner of all seasons who would it be well do i get like there's like a little caveat i get

i don't know what the word caviote i don't either i was like okay caviar there's caviar um of all seasons dancing with stars juniors does that count no because scoward brown is the coolest girl in the world that's i've had some incredible partners okay like all of my partners have been really close you have had good ones i will say my last season Amanda close yeah she's amazing she was really special she is a sweet sweet sweet sweet and and she's so caring and she's gone through so much and yet she cares about everyone else around her more than she cares about herself so i'm going to have to say Amanda and you know we're still a really good friend and she's gonna replace you on tour it's like the best thing ever um but really i i have she's yeah i get that one

She is, I've never met a nicer human mate. Oh, no. It's insane. Was there a spark between YouTube? Because everyone and their dogs were like, neither dated. Really? Or is that just because every time, because you're single and so every time your partner with someone who's single, they're just as rumors?

I think so. I didn't feel like there was as many rumors this time. Oh, okay. I just would read comments sometimes. I'm sure it was. I just, I was really like, I didn't want to like make her sad or that ever. I really just wanted to give her. like the most special time because she she loves it and she was enjoying it so much that

I just like I didn't read comments much yeah we went on like Instagram live three times a week yeah like and everyone was so supportive and they're like I never really tried to like look at comments afterwards because I feel like in the moment I feel like it's sad though when you like because you two did have you brought out like the best in each other and you did have good chemistry but then of course people want to speculate and like I just said we're like oh Galen

you're part of the problem I mean I knew I was trying to get some click base but she's so cool and she's amazing yeah I'm still I'm going to make a podcast with her we're going to take you down oh shit no yeah are you really doing a podcast I want to we both want to well that would be great

what would it be about minding your own business I don't know there's so much that we can talk about Yeah, okay. I mean, when I tell you, we did these Instagram lives, she is so prepared. Oh, I know. She's so cute.

She has written down and like, I know. Like in her notebook, like, it was awesome. She's really good. She is really good. And she's a great host, like on the talk and everything. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, the top. She's a host.

Yeah. She's really good at it. She is good. If you're going to leave us with any thing, what would you say to everybody out there? Either if it's advice or something you want people to know about you or anything, if you could end this podcast with anything. Not your Instagram handle. I don't know. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I save a time for that.

Well, I'll tell you the advice my dad gave me. Okay. Always gives me. It's attitude, gratitude, discipline. I like that. Attitude, gratitude, discipline. Yeah. Attitude, gratitude, discipline. Does your whole family dance? No, my parents don't dance. Oh, your dad just does in TikTok. Yeah. That's funny. But I will say, I really, it sounds corny. No, I like corny. I'm really lucky though. Yeah.

Like, I think you see everyone on stage being around us so much. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. It's truly is, it's a blessing and I feel very lucky. I wish I was probably better at like capitalizing on things and like helping myself go forward, but I like to live in the moment so much. Yeah, but that's people, everyone, you know, there's so many people out there that I,

either have a dream and they're too, like, scared or lazy or afraid to do it. There are people that are living their dreams, but could they be doing something more and better and yes? Or then there's the people that do too much and then they look back and wish they would have just done what they love to do. So I feel living in the good. I'm living in the good life. Yeah, you're living in the good life right there. It's, it's, I feel so lucky that sometimes I'm like, I don't want anything else. And other times they're like, oh, I need to do something else, not something else on the side of dancing, but with, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, there's so many, I'm a very, I'm a dreamer. Yeah. I come up with a lot of, like,

ideas. You're really smart, too, like financially. What else? What else, Caitlin? You're smart about a lot about a lot of things. You know a lot about a lot of things. I feel like people wouldn't really know that. Okay, yeah. I know a lot of stupid facts. Like about everything. Like, I have a really good memory. So if I. I read something once, I'll remember it. Yeah, not I. It's useless information. That's okay.

It's a fun part of trip. Also, I can do a Rubik's Cube. Oh, you would. You would be a Rubik's Cube. I'm a Rubik's cuber. Now tell everybody where they can find you on Instagram. Oh, I don't want to do that. Alan Burst.

At Allen Burst. You're like at official. I don't know. Who does official? Gleb. Isn't it like Gleb official? Is it? Well, let's not.

promote him at Alan Burst. I'm so funny. Well, this has been fun. This was fun, Caitlin. Was that your best guest ever? Second best versus the worst. Yes. You're up there.

My cane is going to break your microphone. That duck on the top of that cane is scaring me. Thanks for being here. We'll get barbecue. Yeah, we are. Okay. I'm Caitlin Brist out. And your session is ending.

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