Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Love Is Blind’s Tiffany & Bliss

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

Two of Kaitlyn’s favorites from this most recent season of Netflix’s Love Is Blind join for today’s therapy sesh and they do NOT disappoint! First, Kaitlyn talks to Bliss who is now happily married to Zack after plenty of on-screen drama. And then, another happily married lady, Tiffany, joins KB to share all the deets about her experience on the show & her relationship with Brett. This love experiment definitely left us with a lot of questions, even post-reunion. Do they feel like their relationships were portrayed accurately? How did they feel watching the show back? Who do they stay in touch with? And, what does life look like now... the good, the bad, and the ugly? Plus, Tiff and Bliss share their thoughts on the Love Is Blind reunion and how they felt about Vanessa’s controversial baby questioning. Kaitlyn also puts them both through a game of “Most Likely To” about the cast and compares their answers. And of course, Tiffany and Bliss share confessions, one of which reveals behind-the-scenes details from their proposal. Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: HYUNDAI - Visit your nearest Hyundai dealer or learn more at HyundaiUSA.com. Hyundai - It’s your journey.  ANGI - Go check out Angi at Angi.com, your home for everything home!  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Go check out Angie at Angie.com. Your home for everything home. Welcome to Grape Therapy. your host, Caitlin Bristow. Look, I'm kind of in a great color right now. That's cute. Today on the podcast, I have Bliss from Love is Blind. And then shortly after, I've got Tiff from Love is Blind getting their sides of the story. So cute. So enjoy. I am so excited to talk to you. Oh my gosh. Thank you for taking the time today to come on the pod. I am such a fan of you and Zach. And just the way you carried yourself through

that whole season and you had so much compassion throughout everything and and i just was like wow i could take a page out of her book um once in a while do you feel like you had to carry yourself like a certain way because you're like oh my gosh people are watching or are you like this is who i am yeah it's definitely who i am it's not how i've always been though you know what i mean like it definitely took me a lot of like learning in my 20s to kind of like you know what it's not really worth it. Like at the end of the day, when someone, like, treats you badly, like, that's about them. You know, you don't have to, like, sync to their level. Like, so it was a lot of, like, learning for me. And it just really, really, like, a lot of hard work going into it.

And that's just who I am. You know, I think, like, and maybe you can relate to because you've obviously been in this scenario. Like, you kind of forget that the cameras are there sometimes, right? Like, it just kind of becomes, like, a part of, like, your scenery and your environment. And so you just kind of forget. But I'm, I'm glad that I was able to stay true. true to myself. I think that was the most important thing for me. So it, it came through that way. Like, it didn't seem like you were putting on an act. It seemed like that's a person who's done some work in their life to, like, you know, learn and grow. And then you came on the show. And you know, the TV cameras, it's different because you kind of have the Big Brother style in the

pods. And then all of a sudden, you're living together and the camera crews, are the camera crews right there? Or is it also Big Brother style in the apartments? So the camera crews are actually there. So, but in the, in the lounge and stuff, there's actually the cameras were there, too. So you had the Big Brother style in the pods, but then when you were in the lounge, you had the big brother style and the cameras as well. So that's when it kind of got used to them kind of being there. And then, yeah, in the apartments, they don't, they're not allowed to put the little cameras up in Washington State. So it's just the cameras physically there. Yeah. That's an interesting rule. Okay. I have so many questions to get through. And I wish I had more time

with you, but I need to know if you heard Micah's response to Zach's comments at the finale. Didn't she slam Zach or something and say, like, I don't know what he was on at the finale. And she was saying, I don't think I was on an interview. I must not have watched it. That's unfortunate, you know, like, hopefully, like, look, like, I think Zach and I are just trying to come into this, like, giving, you know, people grace and, like, forgiveness and, like, also standing up, you know, if we see something like really wrong, kind of like standing up for what we think is right.

So, you know, maybe she felt like she needed to say that to protect herself. I don't know. Well, first of all, I love that you didn't even hear about that. And I'm like the asshole that brings it up. But that's, I love it. Like, you know what? It is what it is. That's my favorite thing about you two as a couple.

And it's the fact that you both are giving people so much grace because it is a bizarre scenario. It is a unique situation. It is like hard to navigate through all of these things in front of so many people. people. And, you know, it is an experiment. So if you think about that, there's going to be a lot of, you know, mistakes being made and things happening that wouldn't happen in real life because it is a TV show. It's, it is real emotions, but it's also a TV show. So in the pods, you obviously knew that Zach was also in a relationship with other people, because again, this is a weird situation

that this is what happens. But you had to see how she was treating people in the house. Now, I know editing happens and I know it's hard to go back because you guys have filmed this so long ago and now you're having visit so many things. But how did that make you feel? You seem like a protective person over the people you care about, which I love. So how did it make you feel knowing someone that you loved wasn't seeing a certain side of someone? Were you like, oh my gosh, it'll just take time? Or how are you feeling? It's hard because like you said, they don't have time to show everything. So when I'm talking about kind of, like what's happening in the lounge to Zach, I'm not giving details. And I purposely did not want to

give details because I didn't want to like try to manipulate him or try to like, you know, like people kind of have to come to their own decisions. And I knew when you're in the pods, no one else is in there with you. You can be whoever you want to be. And so I think that there was definitely a way different side that was being shown in the pods than what was actually happening in the lounge. So. Yeah. And had Irina reached out to either of you individually since the show aired or? So she, after the first set of episodes dropped, she did like reach out and send an apology. And then she had sent me a message after she got back from Mexico. But other than that, there hasn't really been any contact. It's so hard because people have moved on. And the filming

happened so long ago. You've already lived your lives now. Now you're revisiting so many things. And it felt like at the at the finale, people just didn't want. want to talk about things that were in the past. And I totally get that because I'm like, oh, it's been so long. So how did you guys like navigate being a married couple while this was all, I guess, a secret? Yeah. You know, it was, it was definitely challenging to like have to keep things a secret and not post pictures and not this. But I'm also kind of grateful for it because we got to like just live our life and like build our foundation and like become like a really, really strong couple before we had to deal with like the public kind of having an opinion about

everything and how you know being like it's like it's definitely like pros and cons so like there's definitely a good side to it and um you know we just we really just couldn't be pictured together where our rings out so we kind of had to keep a little bit of a secret but um otherwise I think I'm I'm happy that we had that time just us to like be normal and stuff so that's true you kind of get to process everything that you've just been through and do you rewatch every episode we did we watched it together we watched everything just like me and him i think that that was important for us you know especially considering our scenario we just wanted to be able to you know have like our own opinions and not the whole world and the families in front so it was nice to watch it together

yeah yeah it must be so bizarre to watch it back because well from my experience on tv obviously it's like edited a certain way or you don't get to see everything so how accurately do you think your relationship was portrayed in comparison to how you remember it? You know, I think it was, I think it was pretty accurate. Obviously, like, I wish, like, more of our dates. And I feel like every couple feels that way. They wish more of their dates were shown or whatever, but there's just not time. But I feel like it was pretty, it was pretty accurate.

Like, I think they did a good job of, like, like, capturing our, like, deep, deep connection. So it was good, I think. Isn't the freaking cutest. Like, I remember being, like, this feels like, like, other couples feel like, you know, they're having, it's like what you expect to see out of a relationship. I don't know why you two seem so unique and different, but it felt like more real. I don't know if it's because you had gone through, you know, like something where you're taking a person back after they've done something like that. I think that's relatable to a lot of people because, you know, I believe in second chances.

And I think you're living proof of why second chances can be a good thing. That's something you two are still like navigating through or is it like, you know, I give them a second chance. It's working and we don't have to revisit that. honestly that's kind of how I feel like I gave him a second chance like he said like that's just how real life works sometimes right and I wasn't gonna even like a fifth chance right so like I be going through it you know and living through it and all of that that really was kind of like all I needed for and even washing it back like that didn't stir up any sort of feelings about it you know what I mean like so it's kind of funny for people to like talk about it because I'd like so we've so

moved on from that yeah yeah I bet that's well some people can't move on from certain things like that and some people can yeah and so i love that i love that you too have moved on and and that you're still you know i was going to say i keep thinking it's like the bachelorette where you're engaged i'm like no you're freaking married you're married like that's crazy like hold on like married like getting engaged like is like a big deal right but like if you got married it's like a whole i was talking to um g from obviously the first season and i was like you don't actually sign marriage certificates. Like, that's for TV. She's like, no, you do. And I was like, what? Like, both of my mind being married. Yeah, it's big. It's huge. Crazy.

I mean, I guess that's why, you know, people have these moments that freak out at the altar because I always do, are you really doing in the moment a yes or no? Or how does the other person not know what you're going to say at the altar? Well, some people like definitely had discussions. Like Zach and I had talked about it, right? Like, we were like, we're, like, we're going to say yes. We had talked all, we talked so much about it. We had agreed upon it. Of course, like, if one of us wanted to change our mind, we're like, okay, there's space for that. But some people, like, followed the experiment truly to the end and do not make their decision until they're standing up there, which is intense. So that is intense. So I guess that, you know,

it's kind of like the format of the bachelorette where you can't just tell them, you know, oh, I'm picking you. And it's, it does create the intensity in the moment. And, and, And it does feel so good when the other person says yes in that moment because you have this genuine reaction of like, oh, thank God. But I would find that so hard to, you know, especially if, do you spend any time with them off camera? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely do with your other person. Yeah. So there's, you know, you're living together. So the cameras aren't there 24-7. So you have, you know, time that's off camera to talk or do whatever you need to do. So yeah, you definitely get a lot more time together than what you see on the screen. Was the biggest hurdle that you two have had to, like, get over as a couple, what we saw on TV or what's been the hardest part of, you know, being thrown into a marriage like this? Yeah, for me, so, like, he's allergic to my dog and my cat. So, like, that was the biggest hurdle for us. I know, like, they don't show that too much in the show, but, like, we had to go through calories.

That's not a dramatic hurdle. That's cute. That's your hurdle. Oh, my God. We're so boring. I guess we just don't have to be hurdles. That's really your biggest hurdle. That's really cute.

Not so far. I mean, you know, we've only been married for a year and, like, he's just such an easygoing person, so it's been really easy to live with him and stuff, you know? That's really nice because I, I mean, not that you would sit here and tell me otherwise and be like, he's the worst to live with and he does this, he does this, but is there anything that you two, like, butt heads over living together? I mean, that's just so, it's, yeah, fast. That's going to happen, right? So, like, that's like, sleeping is probably our most, like, touchy thing. Like, I wake up, like, with his elbow literally in my eye half the time. And, like, there's just not just, like, move over. You know, I think the sleeping is our biggest thing. And I, I wake up really early in the morning. He kind of, like, sleeps in a little bit more because I have my schedule is really crazy. And so I think sleeping is probably our biggest, you know, like day to day challenge. So you both, are you both still?

working your original jobs? Yes, yes. I know. It's so hard to balance. Like he had he owns his own like law firm. So he has a little bit more flex. But I'm like, I'm still working my nine to five. I'm very. Yeah, it's a lot to balance. People create you differently now at your job because like obviously. Yeah. I definitely get like messages from people I've like never like had a meeting with or talk to. You know, like they'll send me an email or like a like a Slack message. It's all like been really, really nice, but it's just kind of funny and a little offer is like, okay, this is work. Like, let's just keep it work, you know, but it's been, it's been nice. Work for Walt Disney, right? Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's a big company. So I get like random, you know, messages from like Orlando people or whatever, but it's always really nice stuff.

I mean, still, that just must be so crazy because when you go on that big of a platform and put your whole relationship and self out there and then go back to a nine to five do you plan on like what are your plans with zach moving forward do you guys want to continue your work schedule do you want to build something together like what's the dream i definitely the dream is like building something together we're really passionate about like giving back to the community and nonprofits and stuff like that so i do we definitely are going to like start doing those types of things and i think when you have this type of platform like you want to use it for something good So definitely like rolling off the nine to five, you know, at some point and really diving deep into like, you know, following our fashion.

So excited for you guys. I feel like you both. And again, this is just from an outside perspective. I just feel like you have such a genuine thing that is like, it's crazy that you met that way. But this is how it's going to work and you're going to make it work. And, you know, you had so, did already go through so many hurdles, you know, that now you're like, oh, I guess he's allergic to my dog. like that which by the way would break my heart if that happened to me um but you know you your mom by the way is a saint angel and i feel like you get your heart from her and you get your drive from

your dad and it's like i love that your dad came around and everything's going well there and he's sending you on a honeymoon right yeah he totally came around he just needed to get to know him more and like i totally get it like i'm glad that someone was skeptical because like my mom was like yay and his family And it was like, yay, it's like, wait, we're doing this crazy thing. Like, someone please, like, ask them questions. So it's all good. I feel like he humbled the hell out of you both, just being like, you know how crazy this is.

I actually laugh. I love that episode. I was like, this guy is so legit. Like, he's the only one being realistic about all of this because I always think that way when when people meet the families on Bachelor and Bachelor and II, when they're skeptical, I'm like, good. I'm like, this is crazy. And you should be asking these hard questions.

and you shouldn't give a shit about what people on the internet or at home are going to say because this is your family. Like, I respected the hell out of it. Yeah, that's kind of like my take on it too. I was like, I expected him to be that way. It was just like how it, you know what I mean? And I'm glad he like, be a little bit of like a wake-up call is always good from someone. Well, it probably made you be like, well, I better be pretty serious about this or he's

going to know. And so where did you say? I think you said it on the, on the. Honeymoons. Yeah, where are you guys going? Yeah, yeah. So we're doing two honeymoon. We're going to Europe in a couple weeks, actually. And then we're going to Panama at the end of June. So that's the honeymoon he's paying for it for us to go to my stepfums from there. I've never been. I'm so excited. Wait, where in Europe are you going? We're like bouncing around. So we're going to Italy, Croatia, Montenegro. And then we're going to spend like the second half of it in like the UK.

So like in London and then go to Ireland for a while. So he definitely wants to be Ireland. And I love Ireland. So I love Ireland. I love Ireland. It's one of my favorite places in the world. It's so amazing. Okay, I want to ask you something, and this isn't even in my notes. And if you don't want me or don't want to talk about it, that's, I will totally respect that. Do you have any thoughts on Vanessa being so pushy about all people like having babies, have babies right away? Like, because people were kind of like giving her a hard time about that. And I always like to see, you know, two sides of everything where part of me was like, okay, that was like, okay, that was like, little much like for example jason posted a picture with my godson the other day and people were like katelyn give that man a baby and i was like whoa whoa whoa like that some people like women's bodies can't just do that if just because you should give a man a baby or you should have babies because now

you're married but then on the other side i'm like she just loves kids and loves having kids and wants people to feel the joy that she feels um i don't know if you're allowed to talk about that i think i think that's like my take on it too like i think she had the best of intentions going in to it and she's a mom and you know everyone has like individual feelings about motherhood and about having kids and i think she like you said she probably just wants everyone to kind of like feel the love that she's having and it's a it's a personal thing for everyone right like we all get to decide if we want to have kids when we want to have kids all of that type of thing so definitely was a little bit of an unexpected question but i think that she had like good intentions

you know what i mean it's people are just so hard on on her and on deba's host in general all. I always think they do such a good job. But that to me, I was like, oh, okay, it's like, I get sensitive for other people, I guess, because so many of my friends have struggled with infertility and certain things that you, I'm a little, like, sensitive to it where I was, but I did know that she had good intentions. Yeah. No, I agree with your take on that. It definitely can be very sensitive. You just don't know what someone's going through, you know, in a fertility journey, but good intentions. I really think that. So. Absolutely. Okay. And then I, I'm such a. big believer in signs from the universe. I have always been slapped in the face with signs from the universe. And, and, uh, are you the same way? Yes, 100%. Yes. I'm very in tune with that, like my whole light since childhood. Totally agree. Yes. Really since child. So it took me a long time to to figure this out. But in my 30s, I really got quite spiritual with that kind of stuff. And once you

open your eyes to it, you can't unsee certain things like that. And so that's crazy too, because so many signs happened for you and Zach in the pods with the owl and the song. And I bawled my freaking eyes out when you guys danced to I hope you dance at the wedding. And it's like the fact that that was a sign from the universe and then you two dance to it at your freaking wedding. Like what? I know. It literally gives me shells.

Like it's a lot of time. It's a really beautiful moment. And has there been any other signs that have happened for you two since? Or are you like, we're signed out? honestly I just feel like I really feel like everything just keeps aligning like we found out that like my college and one of his close friends in college like we're best friends you know like different colleges but like our room my roommate his really close friend were like best friends in childhood there's all these just like little connections that we've had and just in our talking and I mean the owl thing

is just really really really powerful and it was way more than like what you see um the moon like he gave me these little like moon little bookend things that he'd had like we have the connection of the moon like we just there's just i don't know it keeps with honestly this past year like it just keeps affirming like that this is a person and i think that's why i was able to to like give him such a second chance like because there's just been signs i really believe in that it's like always kind of guided me the right way like my intuition signs from the universe and i was like yeah like i'm going to give him an opportunity so that's really cool i love that stuff so much and even like, like, sometimes I'll, I'm like signed up for emails from like moonreading.com and

sometimes I'll be like, I need a sign today. I'll go like, click a card on the internet and like a tarot card will flip and I'll be like, I need a signer sign than that. And I like, for one, I'm such a different. That one didn't count. That one didn't count. Is there anything that you want to be out there that nobody knows that you're like, this didn't get shown? Or I want people to know. this is there anything or you're like that pretty good you know like one of the funny things and this is another maybe like a sign type universe thing i i was so sick with i had it had of covid the whole time the whole the whole pandemic i did not get covid and then like two and a half weeks before we're

leaving for the show i get covid and i'm like super super sick and i had to test negative in order to go so like i almost did not even make it to the show like i was like i yeah like i was like drinking so much water getting IVs just like trying to just heal and luckily I tested negative and I was able to go on the show but it was like squeaking out by like I think I had 10 days from the first from when I got a positive test to when I needed to test negative because they start testing before you leave or a couple weeks before you leave or a week or whatever so it was one of those things where I barely made it there and everything just somehow worked out and I found my husband in this crazy way and all the ups and downs and like truly like a crazy crazy serendipitous.

thing wow it really it really is i mean that's it's just so cool when when you know i love how they always call it the experiment because i'm like it really is but it's cool when it works and i i always just root so much for the people that make it out because i'm like what a crazy thing to like no one in no one in the world will well maybe like a few people will realize what you've been through and you like have this bond for life through it so that is incredible do you have time to just tell me a quick confession because i always like hearing my guest took that so when Zach was proposing to me the key like the word because I was totally surprised like I had zero idea that he was going to propose to me I was completely shocked and um it was funny because I'm like a very much a rule follower and so when the producers is like okay I'm going to go check the monitors but that was like okay I'm going to go check the monitors like start the proposal and he was like I'm going to check the monitor so back. I'm like no no no don't talk like where he's checking the monitor and he was like It's fine. It's fine. I'm like, no, no, no, no, it's not fine. And he was like, he's kept talking. I'm like, Zach. Like, no, he's checking the monitors. And I just kept being like, stop. Like, no, he's like, bless you, it's fine. And I was like, thinking about doing it one more time, like, interrupting me to be like, don't, don't talk. And I was like, okay, whatever, just go for it. And I'm glad I did. But he was probably like, oh, so nervous. And I just keep like interrupting this for both. So, oh, you're like, no, stop. No, this isn't the time.

And then, like, actually, I'm trying to ask you to marry me. So if you would kindly stop talking. No, you stop. Oh, that's funny. I actually have one more question. When he, when you found out he wanted to talk to you, you were you completely shocked? Or did you have a feeling that would happen after he got to know the real arena?

I knew that he was going to figure out eventually, but I was surprised, right? Like, I didn't know they had broken up. Like, I didn't know what was going on. So I definitely was super, super shocked. and I was a little bit, you know, standoffish and kind of had my guard up, but just because of the connection we had, I was like, you know what, I'll give him a chance. Like, I'll, like, hear him out. So that was my outfit. I'm glad you did. The world is glad you did. And everybody's rooting for you guys. I'm going to play one quick game with you before I let you go. And it's just a most likely

to game. So obviously, you went on the show, you know all the people. You got to know them. You live with the women. You dated the men. And I want to know who's most likely to. So, I'm going to ask both you and Tiffany these questions, and we'll see if you answer the same. Okay. So who is most likely to go on another reality TV show? Micah. Ah, I see that. Okay.

Who is most likely to delete all of their social media accounts? Paul. So true. Most likely to get in an argument with a troll on the internet. Ooh. That's a good. one. I want to say Zach because he's very like, you know, he's a defense attorney. Yeah, Zach. Let's say Zach. That adds up. Um, okay, who's most likely to post something embarrassing

on Instagram? Probably me. Like, what? Like accidentally, like upload something like I didn't intend to, you know, like that's very a me thing for sure. I, I did that once. I was just like, I, the sun was bright in my eyes and I was talking, doing a full Instagram story, and my nip was fully just out of my dress talking. And I posted it too, and it like took me a while to realize what I had done. It was really bad. That's so funny. Pretty embarrassing. Okay. Who's most likely to slide into another cast member's DMs? Ooh. Oh my gosh. Another cast member. That one's hard. Honestly, I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone's you know just the dynamic that's already been built i feel like no one is going to do that so

that's my answer it's a boring answer oh that's okay that's fair uh who is most likely to have a weird google search history probably zach yeah what's like random facts yeah just like random facts like he goes down like a rabbit hole of like random facts or random idea or you know so probably he'd have the most interesting one i want to i want to see see it. Okay, who would be most likely to FaceTime you at 1 a.m. on a night out. Chelsea, for sure. Chelsea seems like the best time. She's so fun. She's literally how fun as people I've ever met. She's so fun. I love her. I feel that like, she is, she's another one that I'm like, she's just a unique human being where I love her confidence. I just love her confidence. It's everything.

Are you close with most people from the show? Yeah, no, I really am. We're all super, super close. Chelsea and I are, like, really, really close. Like, she definitely does FaceTime me, like, regularly, like, at 11 or 11.30. Like, we're both night owls. But, yeah, we talk pretty much every day. Some of the coolest things that come out of, you know, these crazy TV shows are the, are the friendships.

So that's awesome. I'm just so grateful that you took the time to talk today, and I just adore you guys. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. It was so awesome chatting with you. Yes, thank you so much. Okay, enjoy the rest of your day, and I'll just see you on your Instagram stories. All right.

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Yay! So good to see you. So good to see you. I feel like I feel like I've known you. and yet we've never met and I do you know what I mean yeah yeah I feel that way too one of my favorite things is if I you know like fall in love with somebody on a show and then I go to follow them and it says follow back I'm like and that was what happened with you like I went to follow you and I was like oh my gosh you follow me I'm so excited to this friendship to be a real

thing now I can't meet him person oh my gosh I can't wait either we will definitely make that happen um i played this game with bliss and i'm going to play it with you and we're going to see if you guys have similar answers and it's just this is a little game of most likely too so who's most likely to go on another reality tv show i'm gonna go with micha that's what she said who's most likely to delete all of their social media accounts oh out of the girls y'all've seen on the show yeah or guys or guys delete their social media account. Maybe Paul.

That's what she said. Who's most likely to get in an argument with a troll on the internet? Okay. So I'm either going to go with Josh or I'm going to go with Zach. She said Zach, but I forgot about Josh. Oh, yeah. He likes to go toe to toe with the trolls? Well...

I guess he, like, wrote on Brett's, like, a photo, and, like, some trolls were coming for him, so, like, Josh was hitting back. Oh, gosh, just flooding Brett. That's so funny. Okay. Who's most likely to post something embarrassing on Instagram? Ooh. Out of the girls and the guys. Oh, gosh.

No, no comment on that. This said herself. She's like, I probably would put something in, like, not mean to. Yeah. Who is most likely to slide into another cast member's DM? Ooh. Ooh, that's spicy. Another cast member's DM.

Gosh, this is so bad. What if I said Paul? Okay. That's who I was thinking, like, off the top of my head, I was like, maybe Paul. But he may be over it now. I don't know. Oh, gosh. No, I'm going to stick with my answer.

I'm going to go with Paul. We're going with Paul. Who is most likely to have a weird Google search history? Oh, goodness. A weird one? Zach. That's what's a tail. You guys are nailing this.

And who's most likely to FaceTime you at 1 a.m. on a night out? That was Chelsea. Yeah. Yeah. I have all the same answers. That's incredible. It's so funny because you've just been in my living room for, like, the past however many weeks of watching. And I just, like, I start to feel like I know people, which I'm sure, you know, when you watch shows, you feel the same way.

Was that so, is that so crazy for you to know that you're on, like, the biggest net, show that it like broke the internet that like people to talk about this and that you're like the it couple does it just blow your mind you know i don't think it's hit me yet i still feel very normal i've only seen the show like once i can only i can only sit through listening to my voice once and i'm like nah not but just the fact that my social media is now like kind of popping off i'm like, oh, this show is bigger than I thought it was going to be. It's a big show. I mean, did you watch other seasons?

I watched, yeah, like, briefly. But I don't know. I just didn't think, I just thought it was shown here in the U.S. For some reason. So knowing that it's shown globally, I'm like, wait, what? Brazil's in my comments. Yeah, Brazil. in the comments that's amazing but have you experienced well i'm sure because you have a platform but

have you experienced some trolls and are you how are you dealing with that side of it because you guys are getting a lot of love people love like Netflix even was like like brett tip forever like it's a whole thing so but but have you experienced the the nasty side of the internet you know i i have a little bit i think i'm more used to it now but that second week in uh for the I was like taking it pretty tough because like my oh I can now talk about it my husband my husband I mean he is absolutely amazing and so just seeing it all play back on TV I'm like right you're like a freaking prince charming in here I'm just like stumbling over my words losing my breath because I'm like oh he's so good looking so like girls were kind of coming at me like oh yeah you're you don't deserve him. Like, wait. You absolutely do deserve him.

That is. Exactly. But, you know, it got to me at first. Now I'm like, man, they just hate him. Oh, yes. They hate because they ain't. And that is. Yeah.

It's, I mean, everything always stands from jealousy or insecurity. So I'm glad, but I'm glad you're also feeling the love because I bet there's a lot of that going on and a lot of support for you. And just, you know, it's always so crazy to me, too, that how long ago filming was to when it airs. So you've been married for like a year now, right? Yes, I have. How has your relationship changed or evolved over the last year? Well, I will say, like, I loved Brett the day that I married him. But I think what is more beautiful is that I'm falling more in love with him every single.

cool day every month that goes by i'm like oh my gosh i chose right thank you thank you no kidding my gosh because what a gamble what a little risk you took in life to go on such a huge show not see a person you know connect with them and then get married uh and you know tease and peas the hopes for the like that's crazy that it you know when that actually works out for you i was just talking to bliss about signs from the universe and you know obviously they have all these signs that happened to them did you two have any signs that you're like this is my person like did you have that intuition that gut feeling well yeah like i okay like i'll go back to me being an enfp like i really do feel things truly in my gut in order to make decisions and so like with brett like it didn't

start out as my gut feeling breath's like this he's a very deep layered person and you have to pill back those layers to see how beautiful he truly is. And so, like, as our dates got longer, I was like, oh, my gosh, like, I'm feeling it. And it was, our stories were kind of similar in ways. Like, I could relate to his upbringing. And then it was like one date where we had, we were wearing. the same color. Yes.

Same color that did me in. You're like, all right, this is it. There was, like, all the feelings leading up, and then that was just like a boom moment where you're like, uh-huh. Yeah, that was it. And I don't know. And actually, to this day,

we still get dressed in, like, we have, like, two different bedrooms, but we'll come, we're in the, well, sorry, I'm, like, stumbling over my words. I'm still in shock I'm talking to you. so cute um we'll come out wearing the same color even to this day it's it's kind of crazy yeah that's not yeah yeah i feel like that's i mean i pay attention to every little sign i think that's it

that that's something that's something um i want to switch gears for a quick second yeah been a lot of criticism of Vanessa in the finale of the show where i was telling bliss as well and like I always didn't let the person to see two sides to everything. Yeah. It's, you know, no matter what the internet says, I always try and see both sides. I feel terrible because she seems like an absolute doll and sweetheart. And like I was saying, to Bliss, it feels like her intention of asking questions of like when people are having babies was just because she feels so much joy with children and kids

and, you know, has such a beautiful family. did you find that question as off-putting as as I did and it just felt very pushy I I didn't but at the same time like it's just people being so excited about y'all's relationship like that's the same thing so it's like it didn't bother me like I know how to say like no not girl not now like I take a lot of offense to it but like she is she's like a mother to us like she's like a mother to us like she and she is a mother i think she's she's just genuinely excited about our relationships yeah i think so too and i mean i did i i personally was like a little bit uncomfortable how like push you the question see like okay so when do you have babies when are you have any babies but also i did i did see

it as you know her just wanting what she has like she wanted people to have what she has um there's like i mean people are petitioning to get them off the show's hosts and i just feel so terrible because I was like, wait, I actually think they're a great host, but I just wanted your opinion on that. I mean, I think they're great. And, you know, this reunion, it was just different than anything that we've done before. So we're all doing our best to make this happen. But it was epic. Oh my gosh. I was, I mean, I posted a picture of you sleeping on my Instagram being like, this is going to be me if this finale doesn't air soon. And I didn't even get to watch it until the next day at like 2 p.m. And I was so irritated because I had got my popcorn.

I had my wine opened. I was sitting down and I'm just like grooving out to the music of the Netflix like waiting sounds. And then after like an hour, I was like, all right, this isn't funny anymore. And then the next day in the morning, I still can watch it. I was like, okay, this is a sick joke. Like you guys literally broke the internet. look we were ready just like y'all we're just like pins and needles just ready for it to be like live and no it's just so many people logging in and yeah everything crashed but I'm kind of thankful for it

because I was able to calm down and ready to you know just kind of talk about our relationship yeah the live aspect of television is the most nerve-wracking thing. Like, you do not know what the heck is going to happen, like, well, like the internet crashing. But when you got to watch your story back with Brett, did you watch it back and feel like it was pretty, like, representative of your personal experience?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was pretty, I wish there was more that could be told into, like, how to fell in love. Um, but it's only so much you can tell within a short time frame, but we've had hours and hours of conversation that led us to that point. Um, though, I think the only thing that I wish they covered was I was going through the same things that Kwame was kind of going through, like moving to Seattle, because Brett lived in Portland and he couldn't relocate with his job. And I could work remotely. So it really made sense that I relocate, but I'm leaving everything that I know

the life that I built in Seattle that I was happy with to go to Portland. So like people saw me crying, but nobody really knew why because it never showed that Brett was in Portland. Oh, yeah, that's so interesting because I remember him saying that at the finale, like they didn't show this but. Oh, yeah, that's, that is hard because I mean, I still understood why you were crying. It's a lot. And it was very, you know, understandable that you're feeling all this pressure and you're feeling overwhelmed and it's all just a lot. Like you're trying to, like, you genuinely had to plan a wedding. It's not like the TV, the TV, I'm sure helps in a way, but you still had to like plan for your bridesmaids and do everything. You're still working. You're navigating the TV show, cameras and

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Wait, I heard a root. Wait, is this a thing? I'm Googling this. I swear I heard a rumor that. people were like yeah if and Brett met before the show and they were like plants in the show to have like a success story

oh my god I love your reaction because I was like maybe I don't know no definitely not I mean I wish I met him like prior to going on the show because I would save myself some embarrassment I don't think we're I don't think you embarrass yourself well I loved the nap was everything I was like relatable everything that happened I was like

Yes, this is just how I would react as well. Wait, also with you falling asleep, you guys probably get fed drinks too, and you're up all night, like talking. You probably are drained. Well, yeah. Like, I'm normally a morning person. So I wake up naturally at like 6 o'clock in the morning.

I go to probably around like 10.30 at night. But our, let's see, we went to the studio. I want to say like eight. And, like, you know, we're talking to, like, all of the girls in the lounge. We go on our dates. Our dates can be hours long. And then we're having lunch. Then we go back into night dating.

So you have, like, day dating and night dating. I felt like during night dating. But, like, by that time, we were probably three hours into our date. So it's probably one o'clock in the morning. And I'm just like, I finally told him I was falling in love with him. And, like, Brett, like, Brett never told me he was falling in love with me. He was just, like, pausing the whole time.

And I'm like, okay, well, let me just wait. I'm going to just close my eyes for a second. And I ended up passing out. But, yeah, night, I'm a, I love it. I love you. Good night. And I'm out. That's, like, what my body does when I don't want to, like,

when I don't want to deal with something or something, I'm like, I'm just going to go to bed. So, you know what? That's, I would have done the same thing. You, you two just seem like you have, and again, this is what we see, this easy, breezy, beautiful love story and relationship. Is there any hurdles that you've had to get over from, you know, going through this process or being married? And, and, I mean, you've already gone through the hurdle of having to leave and pick up your stuff and go through all that since being married. Yeah.

I think for me, which I think it comes off on the show. Like, I'm pretty easygoing. I joke around a lot. I'm also very much a free spirit. So, like, I never really have a plan, but I know how to get things done. That is me to a T. Yes, I feel that. So Brett is, he's just very meticulous with how he moves about his day.

and like our schedules were just not aligning like he doesn't understand how i do things i don't understand like his routine um and it's just funny because he's like you know this is what has made me successful like he he he does everything everything that he does he's very thoughtful and it's like perfect i thrive and i think in the imperfection like i find a way somehow And I think that may drive him a little crazy. Yeah, but he probably needs that a little bit. Like, that's how I feel like Jason and I are kind of similar to that. Like, I just fly by the seat of my pants.

I'm kind of like, function in chaos. I'm like, and just, I don't even know what my schedule looks like tomorrow. I'll just figure it out when I wake up. And Jason's like, how are you not prepared? Like, you need to be prepared for this, this, not the other thing. But I think that works for couples where, you know, it gives them a little, you know, you can't have two people that are the same in that way. or that wouldn't work either, you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. Like, and I think that's what I love about him. It's like, I love it, but then it annoys me at the same time. But I think we put each other out. Like, I think Brett has learned to be like a little bit more, let's just say, like, after work, he's used to going to the gym around like 536. I may be like, babe, no, let's just have this date night tonight. And he's like, you know what, the joke can wait.

like he doesn't mind like a little bit within reason yeah within reason because he it probably does like the same way it makes you happy to like not be that way it makes him happy to have that structure so you kind of have to find that balance of of both living your your lives but you know you've had that time to live together and deal with the quirks and like i saw he's he's turned you into a sneaker head all the things But is there anything that has surprised you about Brett that you didn't learn in the love is blind experiment? Oh, oh, well, I didn't realize how funny he was. Like, Brett is hilarious. And you don't, you don't see that on the show. Brett can mock anyone, like, first time meeting him. I'm like, how you do that? He does a really good impression.

of Zach, who's Bliss' his husband. Yes, yes. Oh, my gosh. Now I need to see that. He likes talking. And if you've seen, I think it's the Dark Night Rises,

it's one of the Batman movies. Yes. This character, Bain. Yes. I'm doing a bad impression, but he's just so good at it. Oh, I love that. That always surprises me,

I guess, when people's personality doesn't, like, or their humor doesn't come through. I mean, it is such a serious process where you're really getting down. to like the nitty gritty of what you want in a marriage and you everything has to be so serious. So that's fun when you can come out of it and be like, oh, you're also hilarious. Yeah. That's, then you just have built in entertainment. That's amazing. Since you had such an

amazing experience and came out of it with this incredible life partner and you're happy, what advice would you give for people who are in search for their partner? I would say first, be comfortable with being in your own skin. Like, period. Like, it got to the point where I wasn't searching for love anymore, but I love myself so much. I loved what I already had, my family, my friends, where I was in life. And I did things for myself that made me happy that fed my soul. I wasn't looking for somebody to fill in those gaps.

So, yeah, that's what I would say. I think that's perfect advice. I love that. what would you say to somebody that wanted to go on love is blind um oh don't fake it just know who you are know what you want and be authentic authentic to who you are because people are going to see through that you know that there's always going to be somebody that identifies with you to just be and if you're not authentic then why are you even there because Your soulmate may never find you because you're not being yourself.

Do you think anyone of the cast members was there not to find love, but to find fame? Oh, you know, I honestly don't know. What I can say is that I do think the girls do have a good heart. like, I think the pressure and being under the spotlight may have made them act a certain way. Totally. I don't know about just going on there for fame. Like, they know their truth.

But I also, and people can say whatever, but I actually don't care if people are there for fame. I'm like, I don't get it. I mean, it's a huge TV show. Go have your, like, moment. I actually don't think it's a bad thing if people go on TV to like try and get a their 15 minutes i'm like yeah cool go do it yeah like it it personally didn't bother me um it's just i knew i was looking for my person yeah that's when it works out you know

when you are genuinely there looking for something and and you found it and now like the world is rooting for you too as a couple does that make you feel like it's a lot of pressure or do you feel the love and support in a in a better way than that well i've been feeling more like love and support like it just it i don't know if this sounds weird but it just makes brett and i want to be better for each other to for people to see that you can find this love at any age yeah i don't i don't know about pressure because like it was us that they saw on tv right but i think the thing i want to preach is that we're not perfect. So if you ever see us out in public and maybe we aren't smiling or maybe I'm not right with googly eyes, it doesn't mean I don't love him. You know, all eyes are on

you too right now. And it must be just nuts to go out in public and have people recognize you. I feel like Portland is like a very chill place, but do people freak out? So we haven't really been out in Portland yet. But we just came back from Seattle. today this morning. Oh, wow. So we were there for the weekend, and on Sunday we went to the Seattle Mariners game. Oh, wow. Yeah, you must have got mobbed.

Oh, when I tell you, like, we were sitting on the end of the row. And... Oh, that's a bad call. They put us on the big screen. They're like, Tiffany and Brett Brown from Love is Blind. I think everybody just saw where we were seated, and they should. coming down the aisle there was there was a line of people asking to take you can't just take one picture like once you take one it opens the the floodgates to

them all and I do feel like I have to like commit to that um so yeah responsibility and because you're so nice like obviously you want to take pictures with people and you don't want to shut someone down but it is hard because one person like you said it opens the floodgates for everyone then to go well she got a picture and then and then everyone comes up and says I promise I'll be really fast I just want one you're like well it's fast for you can I used to do a segment on this podcast called if I had a nickel and it was if I had a nickel for like all the the things that people said to me after the show and it was always like what people would always go I hate to be annoying but and I'm like but you're going to anyways but I now I love it I freaking

love meeting people in airports now and like on the street. I'm like, yeah, you're like, I love it now where before I'm so overwhelmed by it and I didn't know people's intentions and I was scared somebody who was like a hater online and then taking a picture with me in real life and I got like my head about it where now I'm like, I love everyone. Let's all party. It's so funny because like now I see people trying to sneak pictures and like them. I'll be like, yeah.

So you just strike a pose. I do that too. I'm like, hey. That's amazing. I know it's really overwhelming, but it's nice that people, you know,

are, and just love you guys. Oh, wow. They've just been so nice, so supportive. Like, it really feels good

because, like, you don't know what we're about to walk into, like being a public figure. Like, the internet can be an ugly place. Yeah. We've all.

So at least Brett and I have also seen like it can be a beautiful place too and how it's just, there's just so much love and support from all around the world and people just saying like, wow, I'm inspired by y'all's love story or you made me like not give up on finding love. Like that is beautiful. And I want to, as long as I think I have my platform, I want to ensure that I'm putting out goodness. into this world so that way people can continue to receive that and believe in that. That's really nice. Like, I think your life just starts in your 30s, like, came into my own, like, during this time. And it was perfect that I found my person who was also still available and still looking. So, yeah, it's never too late.

No, it's not ever, ever. Like, no, even if you're 90, I don't care. Like, you would fall a little bit. 90, who cares. You also get along, obviously, with so many people from the show. I want to know how Chelsea and Kwame are doing because I love them. Oh, you know, I saw them recently. They're doing good. Like, I'm, I'm happy that, you know, I think this has brought them even closer. Like, just going through seeing themselves on TV and going through the reunion. I don't know exactly what type of feedback

they were given like during the airing of the show but I started to pick up on it like during the reunion and it seems like it's really just brought them closer. That's nice because that can you know

create stress and tension and when it it can go one of two ways you know it can bring you closer together or it can put you against each other and I love that they're you know getting through this stronger than ever and and are you a threat close with marshals still oh yeah that's he doing oh brother uh he's good i i think now that the reunions out the way like he's fine like he's he's moved on so

i'm in a good place i just knew that he wasn't um i guess after we finished filming and i think it was hard for him to even be at our wedding yeah So I think I'm just happy to see, like, a smile on his face again, to see him having fun online and all that stuff. Yeah, he's in a better place now. Mm-hmm. That's a hard thing to go through. I always make my guests confess something to me on the podcast. So this is your chance to confess something to me that you really don't want the world to know, but now they're going to.

Oh, my gosh. oh my goodness okay let me see oh okay so okay so okay I was in my 20s I was young and dumb I was heading out on a date and down in Texas you always have to keep your car clean well yeah you know I think it's because it's sunny and like being from Houston it's all about your cars like what you're driving and um my car was like really, really dirty. I didn't have enough time to go to the car wash,

but I did have to get some gas. So I went to the gas station and those windshield wiper cleaners, yeah. So I was wiping my windshield and I was like, well, maybe I'll just try to like scrub my car down real quick.

I had a gas attendant. Went on the intercom. He was like, ma'am, this is not a car wash. Just calling you out. Yes. people were turning around. They were like, who is this girl trying to wash her car, like right here, right now? That's your only confession.

I feel like you don't have very many embarrassing stories. I don't have a lot. It was embarrassing for me because it was like a lot of people at the gas station. And before I got to the date, like, my car was still dirty. It was only half clean. Did you tell your date the story? I couldn't. It's like, wow.

that must be a really big thing in Texas to keep your car clean yes that's that's funny well I'm sorry you got called out like that but thank you for sharing your story really is there anything else that you wanted to share before I let you go if we didn't get to everything or there's something you wanted to say that you didn't get to oh no no this is definitely like a fun time chat with you. I mean, what you saw on the show is exactly how Brett and I fell in love. Like, it was just, um, I'm, I'm just glad to see it was like, well received and I still like kind of tear up looking at her story. Oh, I bet. I bet. It's, it's, it's, it really is a beautiful love story. I know you wish they probably could show more, but like, you will always have that

memory to look back on and you'll always have videos to watch back. You know, that's so cool. Yes. Yeah, it's going to be a great story for children one of these days. Run, win. Just kidding. I'm just kidding. Well, thank you so much for taking the time and tell Brett I say hello. And one day we will get together and have a glass of wine and it'll all off air so we can get to the real desk. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now ending. And if I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind a rating in a movie. and Gabriel Union in the Tyler Perry

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