Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Protecting Your Energy & Promoting Kindness with Justin Anderson

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

Is something in the air? Both Justin and Kaitlyn are in a daze this week, but they’re refusing to fake it and putting it out in the open for you guys to hear about… and hopefully for some astrologers to explain! The two dive into what they’ve found has been draining their energy lately as well as what has fulfilled them, including quality time with friends which is basically today’s pod in a nutshell. From growing up religious to putting it all out there on social media to friendship fights, they’re hitting all the topics in this therapy sesh. Justin explains how his feelings on Pride Month have evolved over the years and why his message at the end of the day is to just treat people with freaking kindness, because we could all use a little. And of course, Kaitlyn is getting all the hair health deets from Justin whose hair company, dpHUE, is killing it as she puts him through a game of “F, Marry, Kill: Hair Products.” They end the podcast by sharing what they think is honestly overrated, playing a game that involves a live crocodile attack, and Justin shares a confession that is on par with Lo! Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: JUST THRIVE - Right now, you can save 20% off the dynamic duo bundle of Just Thrive probiotic and Just Calm when you go to JustThriveHealth.com and use code VINE at checkout.  STARBUCKS READY-TO-DRINK COFFEE - Available now, online or wherever you buy groceries. TALKSPACE - As a listener of this podcast, you’ll get $100 off of your first month with Talkspace when you go to Talkspace.com/VINE .  MUD\WTR - Go to mudwtr.com/otv to support the show and use code OTV for 15% off.  ANGI - Your home for everything home. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Wait, I'm... Something's going on, and I talked to a friend about that in L.A. yesterday, the exact same thing. Like, I just feel like I'm, like, in a cloud, like, just floating around. Okay, literally, you just validated all of my feelings because... Like, there's something in the air. I do you follow this... I'm going to blame on his name, so I'm looking it up, but he does astrology, but he also does sign language while he does it. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Okay, I asked him, and he didn't write me back. His name is Chris. Chris Corsini Corsini, yeah this guy I'm going to show you something I wonder if he posted about it He's so cute

He's so cute And he's coming on the podcast In August Which is gonna be really exciting But he just He says it in a way Where I'm like Yes

And I love that he does that Will you send me that profile Yes I will right now I've never seen him I was wondering if he was going to do anything About what's in the air right now Or what's what's going on With the stars, the moon

I don't know because I asked him there has to be something going on because I feel the exact same even when I was driving here I was like you know when you like days out you don't even know where you're going or what you're doing yes that is literally me um yesterday I felt like I was in a days and then I just started crying like and I didn't really know why and all these emotions started coming up and the day before that I was laying on cat and Worth's floor in a snuggy crying and I'm like there's something in the air then because the other I don't cry a lot especially like out of nowhere like I always know what it's about My sister called me the other day and I started talking.

Right when I heard her voice, I just started sobbing. Like uncontroll of it. Just like what is going on? I'm like, honestly, there's nothing. Like, I feel like I just need to let something out. It's so weird. Like, somebody just feels like heavy. Well, then welcome to grape therapy because we're going to.

Let's unpack it. I'm really, I'm really curious. Are we rolling? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, we're good. Do you want that part and take it out? No, no, I love it. I love talking about feelings, too, but it was the weirdest thing because my sister called

And the minute I heard her voice, it was like a close voice. I heard it. And I just started, like, sobbing. She's like, what's going on? And then I went into this whole thing about, like, things that I've been feeling lately. And then I did feel better. But honestly, ever since then, that was a few days ago, actually. I've just felt like in this weird, like, cloud.

Yeah. I agree. I felt this way after COVID. And I remember specifically, remember when we went out to dinner, Me, You, Catworth, Daniel, Scoot. And we went to Bourbon. And we were all sitting around that round table. I had one drink and I was like, I feel like I'm in a dream.

I feel like weirdly depressed and I felt like cloud like and that's how I've been feeling this past week. What do you think that is then? Because then I started like Googling things and like looking into it and like reading my books and stuff and everything says it's like anxiety. I never think of myself as being a depressed person, but I think all of us have a little bit in us at different times, you know? but mine is just more kind of like I'm just in really deep thoughts right now that I think

I'm getting like lost in my thoughts yeah and then they're not even really making sense to me yeah like um I don't know it's wild I actually too I never miss a workout this morning I drove to yoga and I do yoga every single day and then we both were trained with Kevin lift weights but um yoga it's like my favorite part of my day I went there I sat in the parking lot I'm like I just don't want to do it today and that never happens to me I sat in the car and I sat there and I just came home and I like stretched in my gym at home. And then did you get to go lift weights or? No, then I just, I lifted weights like at the gym at our house.

But that never happens to me. I was just like in this thing. I was like, I don't, I don't want to do it. I don't want to be around anyone right now. I don't feel like faking it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's another thing.

I totally align with you on this where you, you'd rather just not show up than show up and fake it. Oh, yeah. I'm totally like that. I just, I refuse and I feel like it drains me more than anything as if I have to be on. when I really can't be on. And that was another thing. I went to New York to the Sports Illustrated party,

and I was so mentally drained and then got there and was so, like, overstimulated, and it was high highs, and then I got in, and I was like, everyone's just trying so hard to be somebody. And then I was like, I want to go home. And I got low. I saw you at the gym the day before you went to that, and I couldn't believe that you were going on that

because that sounds like pure hell to me. Absolute hell to me. But no, I know what you mean. And you get there and you get stimulated. And I feel like you and I are very similar in this way. Like when I'm around a group of people like, I'll turn it on. And I'm not necessarily turning it on. Something in me gets amped up.

Like I have fun. Like I don't care. And that's why today, like, because I was talking like, Scoot obviously knows that I've been feeling like that for a few days. So when I was leaving the house today to come here, he's like, wait, do you not want to do the podcast? I'm like, no, it's so easy. It's like talking to a friend. Like I'm like, I'm not even going to think about being on a podcast. But for me, it's just.

And I'm in a place, Kristen and I talked about this the other day for the past like two days. we brought up like two days in a row now where we were saying like I just am in a place where like I don't want to do anything that I don't want to do right now like you know there's always going to be obligations that you have to do and stuff but I'm in a place where up and I think it's because secretly like I don't think I can handle it like I would like notice something I don't want to be it and probably start crying or getting a fight with somebody you know and I think that's really about like protecting yourself like when you really know yourself like I just can't do things I don't want to do right now yeah no I'm on the same page as you I didn't really want to go to

New York and do that. But I really liked the image of me and Megan Fox in a photo together. And I was like, do it for the gram, Caitlin, which then drains me even more. Because I'm like, why am I caring so much about that? And then I get there and it doesn't happen. I was like, okay, machine gun, Kelly, you'll do. I like had to get kicked off the carpet for him. I saw you guys on the carpet together. That was so good though. I was like, okay, this is. I mean, that kind of made it worth worth it. It was just funny. But like, I'm in the same boat where I keep thinking, is this going to like, is my cup gonna be overfloweth after this event and that one I knew it wouldn't and I came home and felt

so drained but that's also because I did what I have worked on so much and I did the comparison thing the whole time I was at Sports Illustrated where that's stupid because they literally celebrate all shapes and sizes with Sports Illustrated now and age where I'm like starting to feel like I'm getting up there and so to see beautiful women of all across the spectrum age size everything I was like this should make me happy, but what was I doing? I was finding the skinny models who are like young and fruitful and have so many ovaries and eggs and I was just like, fuck. And then I did the spiral and I hate myself for it.

I mean, that's a place that you would though. Because regardless, I mean, Sports Illustrated, it's Martha Stewart's on the cover. But it's still like we know what Sports Illustrated is really about, you know? Like, we know that it's like, that's just like, oh, this is cute if we put her on the cover. but there's got to be like a feeling to it. Well, the root of it all is like, wow, these magazines used to give me body dysmorphia and really fucking me out back in the day. And so now I'm like, I've grown so much and I've done so much work that I went,

I would have never went there 10 years ago because I would have been so self-conscious. Where this time I went and I was like, fuck it. Like really went for it. But I still caught myself doing those things. I was just able to not like drown in the thoughts. Well, I think that that's honestly the difference too because I feel like all my years, I grew up in Los Angeles, did all the celebrity hair forever. So I was going on everyone's parties and doing all the like Hollywood parties and premieres

and all that kind of stuff. And I was in that world. And when I left and came to Nashville, I was like, I don't want to be a part of that world more. Like it doesn't fulfill me or anything. So I left it. And I think that now getting older, the thought of doing any of that stuff that feels a little bit forced where it's like, oh, maybe I should go to this because who knows what will come

from it. I just can't do it. Like, I just don't want to. That's a great place to be. That is a really great place to be. But, I mean, we're not retired. So it's like you still want to. But I honestly feel like I can navigate it in a different way, you know, because you always, like, you have a business.

I have a business, you know, and I do still have to meet people and I have to talk about my products and stuff. But I want to do it in such a different way. Like, I don't want to go try to be a part of the flash stuff, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like networking, though, is changing. Like, I feel like networking now. It's like bonding. And like, that's why I love podcasts.

Like, I will do so many podcasts and never run on my team for Deep Hugh. my hair brand, they'll say, you know, why do you do so many podcasts? Like, aren't you getting burnt out? I'm like, no, that's what I actually love. Like, I like connecting with people. You know, I want to connect with a different audience, you know, and I can talk about the things that I'm interested. I'm interested in pop culture. Things you talk about on a podcast. And we talk about beauty. We talk about my products if it comes up naturally. And I really enjoy that. But I don't want to go to a big stupid party and try to act like someone and shake a bunch of hands. Like, I can't do it. That's not in me. It feels phony to me. It feels really phony. It's, I agree. I agree.

I feel like that also comes with age and certain, like, being in a certain place in your life. But I have found that networking to me now. I don't think about things as networking. If I go to an event, I actually connect with people and have different kinds of conversations because of all the therapy I've done. I'm like, no, I want to actually have meaningful conversations, which always leads to meeting incredible people. And then that aligns me with the right things that I want to do in my life. And I'm like, oh, so I look at networking as like connecting now with people and having like

nice conversation instead of being like I hate the you know what do you do or like this guy this morning comes drops off furniture and looks in here and he goes what do you do I'm like yeah like what podcast and he's like what's it about I'm like huh like I'm like the last thing you want to talk about I was like you just woke me up at 7 a.m. sir I am so annoyed at you right now well I also feel probably for you if I had to get I mean the past years of your life have been about like self promotion and doing that, like, you get to a point where you're like, I don't want to talk about that part of my life, or I don't want to, everything feels like you're selling yourself to somebody, and I hate that more than anything. I don't want to sell myself to someone. Let's get to

know each other, like on a human level, and then we maybe start to like each other. And then I like when I walk away from something, they're like, oh, I really like that guy. He was nice. And then someone says, oh, did you know that he was a big celebrity color story? He has a great product client. And then they're like, oh, that's even more interesting. I'm not good at the pushing myself. I'm really bad at it. And I also get in my head, and I also get in my head, that I think people are so sick of me. I've been podcasting for six years. I'm like, aren't people so sick of me?

Or like, I have this fear that all of my listeners are gonna like turn on me and hate me for something or not be there with me through like highs and lows and then I get scared. Oh my God, I mean, I get it in a different way. You know, yeah, I totally do. But I think the thing to remember is it's like anything, you know, like things are gonna ebb and people can take a break too.

People could not listen to the podcast for a while. Then they miss you, you know, and like. Hope so. They will. You have that personality, definitely. I'd miss them. That's how I feel about social media. Like, I genuinely love it. Like, I love it.

Because I social media all the time, like you do, like, we keep it going. But I really, really enjoy it. Because even, like, my close family friends and, like, my family, or even, like, my mom, I was talking the other day. And she watches all my Instagram stuff. And she's like, do you ever get sick of it? I'm like, no, I love that. Everything that I do, I really like it.

I don't like when it starts to turn into work. Like, when people ask me to do Facebook. favors for them, as much as I want to. Yeah. I don't like when it starts to feel like work, you know, when I'm pushing something on people that I'm not interested in. Yeah. Your social media is so entertaining too because it does feel like you're genuinely just

hanging out with you at all times of the day, which I actually would like to get better at because I, too, enjoy social media. I just go through like, I forget to do it sometimes. Yeah. And I want, I was seen somewhere that people were saying Instagram's algorithm really wants you to be like active morning afternoon night and so then my rebellious side goes then i'm not going to yeah yeah i just had that conversation in the day and i started doing like more of tic talk because then ticot doesn't feel like a commitment i can do like whatever i want there i hate that

instagram is doing that to us so it's like we've enjoyed this platform for so long and they are messing with you because like if you take a couple days off i don't know what that feels like but if you do like friends will say like all your numbers will drop or whatever i really try to not look at that stuff or compare it. In my head, I'm just like, okay, there's going to be down days and whatever. But I could not count those numbers. Same. You know, I know though, like when my numbers will go off the chart, but I don't want to try to recreate that all time. No, because then it's it's not authentic. And people see through that shit all the time. Exactly. I get so in my head about all that shit. But that's why I'm kind of happy about YouTube is I do love the thought of like

the listeners, obviously who I call Vino's like me being in their living room and they just like have me on while they're like cooking or like doing hanging out with their dogs. I'm like, hey, guys. I like love that thought so much. And Instagram, I don't know what's happening with it. TikTok, I heard as banned in a couple states now. Yeah, but I think it's only for people who have like state phone or government phones, right? Because you can't ban an app in one state because I'm what, you drive across the county,

the state line and it just shuts off. That's a good question. I have an idea. No, I think it's for people who have like government phones, I think. That'll never go through unless they got. not rid of TikTok completely. Yeah. Because you could download it in Idaho

and then go drive across the border. That's true. You know? That's true. I have so much on on TikTok. This conversation though is really funny because I always think about this kind of stuff because anybody who doesn't do social media for a living

or they don't, they're not really active on it would be like, what the fuck are they talking about? But I do think it's an interesting thing to think about. Like from our end looking at all this stuff, it's different. And that's where I get a lot of frustration, you know,

because I get really frustrated when people who don't follow me like send me crappy messages or stuff like I don't know I wish that more people would kind of talk about that like what it feels like to be on the other end of it like for me like there's certain things that just like bum me out I'm like I enjoy this please just leave me alone let me do it my way right you know and so the numbers thing that's why I'm like I can't pay attention to that stuff because I don't want it to become work I don't want Instagram become work for me all right safe to say all the vinos know just how much I value personal growth mental health and I will say so much of my growth in life has definitely stemmed from therapy.

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I'll like oh, I'm having really a hard time or whatever and we go through it and it's fine. But it's just not healthy for me. But the sad thing is is if people follow me on Instagram, they know like I respond to a lot. lot of people like I and I get a shit load of DMs because I'm so active on there and I really do ask people questions what do you think so I get tons of feedback right you know I'll show friends who have way more followers than I do like my DMs when I post stories and they're like holy shit like what's coming your post like even when people are commenting the amount of comments you get because you're there responding and talking to people really know that about you so they're like

well I'm going to leave a comment because he'll probably respond to me and your engagement is incredible. But I, yeah, but just so you know, it's because I really, really like it. You know, like, I always make a point. Yeah, I always make a point, too, like, if I'm going to post a picture, I want to have time to respond to people. Like, it's not for me, like, oh, here's a hot picture of me and enjoy it, and I walk away. You know, like, I really do like to connect with people. But that's also why I went into doing hair. Like, I like connecting with people one-on-one, and I feel like we live in this world now where social media is taken over, that now I'm trying to connect with thousands of people at a time, that I'm

I'm like, no, I want to go in and comment to people. It makes sense that you like podcasts then as well. It's a one-on-one thing. But doing hair in the chair, I would get my client's undivided attention. I loved it. You know, when I was doing massive celebrities, I got to go into their homes. And we became really close because it was that like uninterrupted time where we just sat and we really got to know each other.

And now that I focus on the hair brand and I don't do salon appointments anymore, I really miss that. I miss the connection. Like I was so connected. to my clients. That's how I feel when I saw an Instagram of somebody I followed the other day where she's like, are we still crying on Instagram? Why are girls still doing that? And I was like, I'm not going to take that personally, but I actually feel some sort of relief

when I cry on Instagram or show a low moment because I get so many beautiful messages back and then I start connecting with people where they feel seen and one of my favorite lines of all time, the words that I live by is that vulnerability always creates this connection. And so all the time, whenever I open up about my anxiety, or if I'm having a bad day, or I cry, all of a sudden

this beautiful community shows up and we have really incredible conversations and I feel better after it. I love that. I don't think you should ever stop doing that. I think it's so important to have spaces like that on the internet. I think so many people think when they see it, like if they didn't know you and they just popped in, they saw you randomly crying, they'd be like, oh, this bitch needs so much

attention, you know, because people always want to go to the negative. And it's like, no, or are they really trying to connect? Or it's like a way to, I don't know, I think that kind of stuff is beautiful. And I think social media is not going anywhere. It's going to become more and more a part of our life that we're going to see more of that. People are going to share, you know, and like these people that we spend every single day with, they know us. It'd be weird if we never did show an emotion. I really always, no matter what happens in my life, want to be aware of not showing off. Because it's like we don't know where people are in their life. And, but there is something about inspiring people, I guess, you know.

I have a really hard time with that. Like, I really don't like to show off, you know. Like, I don't want to show our cars or much of our house. If people really pay attention to my Instagram, I show like two parts in my house. And everyone's like, do a home tour, do a home tour. Like, I could never, my balls would shrink inside my body. If I was walking and I was being like, and this room here, we designed it thinking about, well, I could never do it. Like, I am so not going with showing off.

I actually did it. I did a home tour on my YouTube channel before. And it's actually hilarious because nothing was even really set up in the other rooms. It just looked like a shitty house anyway. So it's kind of like humbling. Like you're like, you don't even have a couch. I'm like, it's coming. But I know what you mean.

I need to have a weekend at your condo. You have to. We'll do like a fun. It's so fun down there. And now that like it's getting nice weather, like it has a beautiful pool up on the roof and stuff. So we'll have like a fun weekend down there. And when this comes out, it's Pride Month. I have questions about this for you.

Do you like when people celebrate Pride Month or do you think people take advantage of it to be like, look, I'm an ally and like post a photo of a rainbow. Oh my gosh, Caitlin, I had no idea we were going to talk about that because that's actually something that I was like weird about in the car this morning. Really? Because I have this love for TikTok right now. I think it's so fun. I think that like you can scroll TikTok and you like meet new people that you didn't know about, you know. So all of a sudden I'm like, I'm obsessed with this girl who like lives in the middle of nowhere and she just talks in her phone or reading and I relate to her, you know. so I follow these people.

Well, there's this thing that's going on on TikTok right now, and it's breaking my heart that's all about the pride stuff. You know, I'm a very proud gay man, you know. I will be very honest. I don't go to a lot of pride festivities. I just don't, you know. I'm realizing now the importance of pride. I think that there's a lot of people like who want to say things like,

why do gay guys get like a month and where straight pride? And they say all these really kind of just silly things that if you really thought about what is the message of pride, it's about acceptance, right? Well, for so long, I felt safe as a gay man. Like, I totally feel safe in my life and I can get married and all that kind of stuff. But all of a sudden, it feels like it's being judged a little bit again.

And so I see the importance of it, which kind of makes me like, oh, maybe I want to go to Pride this year and be there and, like, be a part of it or whatever. But what was upsetting me on TikTok is all these videos about there's these people going into Target and they're all pissed off that there's a pride section in Target. And these women who are just like, this is so disgusting. and they're trying to push this agenda on people. And there's people who are going into it. And anybody listening, know that I'm processing this as I'm speaking. I'm not trying to preach. I don't care what people's beliefs are.

If you don't understand the gay community or whatever and you're still trying to figure out, that's fine. I'm not going to preach to people. But the one thing that throws me off is when people say the whole thing about like they're pushing the agenda, don't you realize that the agenda might just be acceptance? Like people are saying, like, we accept you. This is a tiny part of Target just to show. Like we stand with these people.

And also people need to realize it's like, I have a niece that I'm absolutely obsessed with. If my niece came to my house during Pride Month and my sister wanted to put a cute little pride shirt on her to come into our house to show that her niece is, my niece is proud. Like, you guys think this through. It just sounds so dumb to talk like that right now. So that was really breaking my heart. I was like, I can't believe people are reverting back to that hateful space. It's pure ignorance because you're like now, but now you're pushing your straight. on people and you're like what's the word contradicting yourself with all these thoughts and

hateful things where it's like yeah pride is about accepted so I'm sorry white woman and white straight men like have you not been accepted well that's the thing that's so wild because even me as like a white gay man like I need to check myself because I people get so mad when you talk about privilege and stuff but I know my privilege as a white gay man the way that I look I can walk into any space and feel very comfortable, you know, and then I have a white partner, you know, and the two of us together, you know, so I have to check myself on that. And that's why pride has all of a sudden become something that I've been thinking a lot about, because I'll be very honest, like years ago, I was like, oh, pride is so stupid. Like, what are these people doing? Like, why are we, why are we

in the streets and floats and all this kind of stuff? Like, we're gay, big deal. Let's move on. Right. But now I'm kind of like, okay, you got to still speak up because there's still people who just want to hate. That's so true because so many people, like from what you're saying, it sounds like you kind of were like, it should be just accepted in general. We don't need to make a big month out of it, a pride float. We don't need to go shout it in the streets. Like, why can't we all just be accepted and live like the rest of people? But also on the other hand, you're like, no, we need to fucking stand together and have a community and show our pride and get people involved and especially in freaking Nashville.

Yeah. I feel like that's a, I mean, I grew up in Southern California. I was raised Mormon, but I was in the most safe place ever. I never felt uncomfortable being a gay man. And I'll be very honest, like moving to the South. I love it. I love Nashville. But just this past year, all of a sudden I felt something change.

And I noticed, too, that like my DMs are the F-A-G word. Like when somebody wants to like, when somebody wants to like be shitty to me and they come like write nasty stuff from the DM. It's all that again. or like, you know, that kind of stuff. And I'm like, okay, that hate is still out there. So it's like maybe we do need to address it. And that's why people want to show support.

And this is all about just showing support and acceptance and love. And I'm sorry, but I grew up real religious. And we really did follow the teachings of Jesus. And it was to love everyone and accept everyone, you know? And like, Mormons especially, I mean, Mormons, we think we are the chosen one. I'm not Mormon anymore. But I was raised like around people who are like, we are the chosen ones. But my parents would always, like, you are not better than you else, never preach our religion on to anybody else.

You know, you know your relationship with God. And I'm just so confused how we're going back in time where people are like, my God, a lot of people don't care what your God thinks. You've got to remember that. You know, it's like, my goodness. And I love religion. I see the importance of it. I have such a faith. I have my own relationship with all of that, right?

And I don't want to preach to anyone. But the way that people are starting to preach at each other, like, you guys, there's like what? 7,000 religions in the world. Why are people acting like theirs is the one way? I'm so confused. And I would be, I would really love to see what their way says of how you treat other people. Right. Right.

That's where it gets so. The contradiction always just is the biggest piss off to me is all of the trolls, all of the, you know, mean people and the bullies and all these people. So many of them believe in Jesus and the Bible and his ways. And it doesn't make, it does not. It doesn't. Because like I said, I really, I'm so thankful that I grew up around really, really nice, very religious people, but they were the nicest, kindest people, right? So I have such a good relationship with religion. A lot of times when I'll talk about being Mormon, sometimes I'll get feedback where people like, I can't believe that you're saying you're proud of being raised Mormon, you know, the Mormon religion hates gay people. I'm like, I didn't experience that. And I grew up with really kind, nice people, you know, so we all have our different thing. But what I think that really, oh my God, this is, we need to stop this. We need to stop this. second because it's like either going to make people really mad or happy but um the one thing is it's like um i think that people who are very religious should start paying attention to people who are

in their religion who are being really hateful because it's really giving religion a bad taste and that makes me sad because i think that a world without religion would be sad i like that it gives us morals i would agree especially with how many different religions like you said there are i have like i'm very spiritual. And I don't understand other religions, but I think they're beautiful. Like, I don't understand certain ones, but I'm like, how beautiful for them to have that belief and that faith and something that they, you know. And it doesn't affect you. And it doesn't affect me. You just leave it alone. So my point with that is kind of saying, like, if you are religious and like, you have an annoying Aunt Becky who just trolls Facebook all day, spouting off her religious beliefs,

call Aunt Becky and be like, hey, you're giving us a bad name. You're making us look bad. That's not the way that we were taught to be a part of this community or to be religious. And I think that those weird, hateful, loud voices are really ruining it. And that's why people are getting such a bad rap. Remember years ago? I remember when I was younger, people would be like, oh, so and so, they're such a nice family. They're really sweet. They go to church every Sunday, whatever. And now people say, I'm like, oh, I met so and so. And they're like, oh, just be careful. Like, they're church people. Like, it's turning. Now, if you say you go to church, people are like, oh, are they weird? And it's because of the bad, loud ones.

It's true. So if you love your church, like, that should be the message in your church groups is like, you guys, let's be better versions of ourselves. That's so, I totally agree. I'm reading in my notes and I'm laughing, just thinking, I'm not going to, we're not going to go there, but somebody wanted to know if you and Kristen ever fight, and I just laughed because I thought about our whole conversation that one time that we're not going to get into. No, we can talk about that, though, if it was important to somebody.

Oh, well, a lot of listeners just wanted to know, because, of course, course everybody knows your best friend Kristen and then that's how Kristen and I became friends was through you and so a lot of people were like they're just perfect and do they ever fight no it's so funny and I think that if somebody is if people are asking about that like of course I would talk about it but no Kristen and I are really really close good friends and it's like for a reason we just really mesh well I don't know it's like falling down like losing my erection it's just dropping lower and lower. Every time I see, it's just like slowly going down.

I'm like, oh, no. Is it this part here? Maybe. No, Kristen and I are a really interesting friendship. And my partner, Scoot, is always talking. He's like, you and Kristen are the exact, like, you're a boy-girl version of each other. And no, we don't fight. And we actually talk about a lot because Kristen are both very passionate people, right?

Like, we will fight in our real worlds, right? Like, I will definitely get in fights with friends and family and Kristen the same. and we don't because we really understand each other. Like we know when to pull back and we're both very respectful of each other. It was hard for me because I did Kristen's reality show very cabaleri, right? And we've been friends for 20 years, right?

But you do a reality show and then everyone sees you together and that becomes your identity, right? So after I was living in Nashville and Kristen and I were spending all this time together, I would post stuff with us together all the time and it became this whole thing. Like, where's Kristen?

What's Kristen doing today? You guys are so cute. So then I told Chris. Like a full-on relationship. Yeah, so I made a conscious effort. I was like, I'm not going to post Kristen anymore. Even when we hang out, we won't post anything together. And we talked it through. And I told her, I was just like, I don't want to be your little like bitch boy. You know, as much as you're my best friend, I would post you every time we hang out together. It became too much. So to answer that, no, we have an awesome friendship. Like, we talk all day long. Like, even if it goes a few hours, she's like, hello, where are you? You know, like, we really have that friendship. Like, we just really enjoy each other's opinions on everything. And I'm, I love. I love. love Kristen more than anything like my closest friend of the world she's so rad right she's just the coolest like i knew that you guys would get along so well and it was so important to me that you guys became friends but um Kristen's really interesting because anyone that i will introduce her to

they always have the same thing like when they meet her for the first time like she'll leave the situation and they'll be like she's the coolest girl ever like i think that everyone has this idea of maybe because she's been in the public guy for so long and they made her seem like kind of bitchy when she was on the beach her christin's a down-ass bitch like she'll do anything like we travel the world together and i'm the diva and i'm not even that much of a diva but like Kristen's cool with everything she's like oh spot's cool like this is cool like this room's fine she's so down to earth she's so down to earth which i freaking love because i feel like that's like the kind of people i crave in my life so once you find them you're like oh shit yeah people do

that with you know relationships in general on instagram where if you don't post someone they're like well where's this person and it's happened for i don't know it feels like two years now Jason and I just because we do such separate things, everyone's like, why aren't you guys together all the time? And it's so bizarre that, yeah, I've kind of pulled back on posting that too. Yeah, no, I totally get. I do the same thing with Scoot, my partner. And he hates social media, so it's easier for me to not put him on all the time. Yeah. But, yeah, it's, you want to kind of also, I mean, how much do you want to share? You know, like, I don't know. A lot. I know what you're saying. Yeah, I want to share a lot. I don't want to share a lot. I don't want to.

everyone to like it's so funny too like even skew will be like in the background sometimes and people like write something like it's what's wrong with skew like are you guys fighting i'm like bitch he just walked by the camera when i was acting like an idiot in the kitchen like oh my god it's like it's like you want and love when people are so invested but then when they're too invested you're like i can be back out yeah yeah yeah there's a fly that just keeps flying around me and it's driving me absolutely banana um okay so i just had my friend low on the podcast and we talked about fuck Mary Kill, um, skincare. And so I was like, wait, I want to ask Justin his fuckingary kill hair products. Ooh. So I pick the three or you? You know, you pick like,

because I like for me personally, I'm on this hair growth journey. So I'm obsessed with your scalp scrub and the oil, the scalp oil. Um, those two are like in my routine along with, what is my silk scrunchies. So for you, your top three brands, because you have a lot of We have a lot. We're constantly growing. And we're coming out with like a lot. So I'm very busy with all of that. So there are things. Here's the thing like certain things will be a good idea at the time. And then I noticed that they don't hit as well as I thought. So they'll kind of go away as new things come in. So I do have favorites and then other ones that I don't like. But the ones that I don't like usually go away. But the scalp scrub, I'm all about scalp. I don't

think people realize like how good that is for your hair to grow in healthy you know when your scalp is clogged your hair doesn't grow in as well it starts to shed more people use a lot of dry shampoos and a lot of products so it it lives on the scalp so you have to really clean the scalp so our scalp is amazing we just came out with a new one did you get our new one no not the new it's out of this world it comes in an applicator bottle where it's like skinny so you can put it right at your scalp and it has salicylic acid and you leave it on for 10 minutes before you get in the shower and then you wash it out it's insane you probably have one in your mailbox like I'm sure we sent one to you because I was going to bring you

one today and my assistant was like no we sent her some but I'll make sure you get more it's really really good so um fuck Mary Hill yeah I would um we always want to just like fuck the one's spicy unpredictable one right so like the one that I would want to fuck is our actually our color fresh oil it's an oil that I think everyone should put oil in their hair every day because it's the best way for your hair to soak up like moisture and our oils really really light weight. Yours is incredible. It never makes my hair oily.

Yes, it does not weight your hair down. And I work with so many blondes in my career, and blondes tend to have finer hair. So I wanted to make sure that the oil still gave all the hydration, but no way in the hair down. So our color fresh oil is out of this world. It's really good. And it's really, really lightweight. So fuck the color fresh oil. Mary the ACV hair rinse.

Just because I feel like she's loyal. You know what she's going to do. But I really think that people over shampoo their hair. So I want people to, as much as possible, skip a shampoo and use the ACV rinse in place of it. Because shampoo is really what is drying people's hair out. It's a detergent. So you're sudsing up your hair every time you shampoo and it dries your hair out. So the ACV rinse, I want people to use as much as possible.

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You know, I think it's so wonderful when people do the one style and they make it last because then your scalp. is producing all these good oils and that's what's hydrating your hair. So that's what I was worried that that was clogging because I only wash my hair once a week and I'm like, are all my good oils and certain things I'm putting in my hair

is that clogging it? No, with the oils that you're putting on your hair, you're usually putting it on the ends down, right? Or the mid shafts down. I'm more worried if you're using dry shampoo every day, you want to get that off or things that like live on your scalp. But it is so good to shampoo your hair less.

I think it's a winner. Except I will say, like I'm so not grossed out by pupil scalps because I played with people's scalps all the time like people would come into the salon and be like oh my god i'm so embarrassed my scalp is disgusting i'm like i have seen the worst like nothing freaks me out but there are some people who will try to go like two weeks and they're loading their hair with dry shampoo and that gets nasty because it just sits on your scalp holds all the oil right there clogs all of your pores so that's an issue but no shampoo in your hair once a week if you can it's great what about because i use

your spray for a color root spray for any grays that i have is that okay to sit on the scalp It is because ours is really like it's a lightweight one and you're probably spraying it just in certain particular areas, right? And that one kind of, it goes on and it dries and it kind of like flakes away over time. Or if you hit it with the blow dryer, like it'll go away. So I wouldn't leave it on for weeks, but like you said, like a few days, it's not a big deal. And the thing is where you're changing the game is you're actually taking care of your scalp. You're scrubbing your scalp. So you're fixing the problem.

There's a lot of people who just won't. Like they'll never take care of their scalp. They'll do like a light shampoo and they don't realize why their hair. shedding so much. I have been on the oil, the scrub, and the ACV for years. And that has that with neutral. Your hair is gross. It's so different because I did your hair for years or like that different times in the years

that we've known each other. And your hair at certain points was busted. Like your hair, I never thought your hair would grow that long. Okay, but these are clippins. No, I know. But I know your hair. And I always ask you about your hair every time I see you. But even your front pieces, like you used to never be able to grow the very front

pieces very long at all like all of your stuff is healthy it's in a good place i've been because i've been using the right products yeah just a couple random hair questions that i have for you because i feel like it's a whole thing right now people's hair growth or yeah hair health it's like really trending um so back to the random hair questions um if everyone on the planet had to have the exact same hairstyle like we all got on board to have the same hairstyle what would it be oh my gosh What color and what style? Well, I mean, I can envision it in my head. Like, so we're all...

We all have to do it. We're all genderless now? Yes. I think about, like, surf hair. Like, surf hair. Like, I think people should have, like, their natural root, you know? And then those light kind of bits that the sun would naturally lighten. Yeah.

And I just like a messy kind of natural wave. Just let it go. Yeah. So the cut would be, like, long layers, you know, so that you could wear it kind of wavy. But I just really like natural I think that people should like dress kind of funky Maybe do their makeup a little bit funky But then your hair should suit your face shape

And your skin color So the color and the shape So I guess we can't really ask that Because there's too many different shapes and colors And hairstyles It's hard to say But the one that I said Like when I'm talking just kind of like that surfer hair

Like it's messy Like I don't know if you do know the model Aaron Wassen No Like she always has incredible hair Or like Kate Moss when she has her long hair It doesn't even look like there's really a hair cut to it. Giselle,

when she was like, years ago when Giselle had those perfect highlights that were just kind of on the end. Yeah. And it was those grown-out

layers, you know, and just always kind of fell into place. I kind of want to do that to my hair again. I want to lighten my hair again. Just like, I think you should just do the very ends.

I'll send you inspo pictures tonight. Maybe we'll do it like fun one time. I don't want to take you away from whoever's coloring your hair right now, though. I don't like that. He would bow down to that because he loves you and he... Well, maybe we'll do it together like a collaboration thing. Wait, he would die.

He like, He's the guy that cat goes to. I would love, let's do something fun one time. Like, do a little play night where we like... I'll put it on my YouTube. Let's do that. That would be so cute. I've always wanted to meet him too.

Oh my God, he's the best. But I never want to be like a client stealer. Because people, I'll always meet really interesting. No, because I was originally with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks... I'm sure he gets it too. He's busy.

He's not worried about it. No, he's not worried about it. And he would be, yes. I always meet like these really cool people in Nashville that I've always actually like secretly wanted to work with and stuff. And I'm like, oh my God, will you do my hair like one time? And I'm like, I don't want to steal you away from who's been doing your hair for like years, though. I don't want the hair community in Nashville like hate me.

My mom was even like, so if I come out there, do you think Justin would do my hair? Oh, my God. I'm like, I don't think he does hair anymore, mom. But, okay, if that, if we could do that, I would be. That would be cute. It would be so fun. That'd be really fun. And I've been wanting to meet him, so that's the perfect way to do it.

Okay, last part of the podcast is called If I'm Being Honest. Something that's been weighing on you recently that's, like, controversial that people be like, I don't see where you're coming from. Mine, I'll give you a couple. I love an example. I really think chapstick is a scam. You're so funny because, you know that I've always talked about that? What?

Yeah. I've always said that, like, I think that chapstick is a scam because it's the same thing that I think about shampoo. Since we were young, we were taught. to shampoo our hair like five times a week. Or every time you got in the shower, you shampoo. Well, when you shampoo over and over, your scalp starts to produce tons of oil. That's why people say, oh, I have to shampoo every day because I have a greasy

scalp. I'm like, no, bitch, you have a greasy scalp because you shampoo every day. Your scalp is freaking out that it's overproducing oils. And I think the same thing happens with chapstick. If you start using chapstick all the time, you're going to chap lips all the time. I've never used chapstick. I've never had chapped lips. Yeah.

But the times that I have, because I remember, like, when I was in high school, like, I really wanted to use that cherry the blistic one because I love to smell it and I used to use it and my lips were chapped all the time so that my mom was like you have to stop using chapstick your body's like thinks it needs it now so we're on the same page yeah so I think it's I think chapstick is so overrated okay but it smells good so like I get it and it's cute what else do you think is overrated I guess that could be a good if you're being honest what is overrated um what is overrated oh my gosh that's a hard one usually I would have like I know I feel like it would be on your tip of your tongue right now i don't want to go deep i'm such a deep

i always think of something deep like i don't want to just be like bell bottoms or like high wasted pants like i just that's not me i wouldn't talk about that but i think that um i want people to realize that being famous or a celebrity or having tons of followers on social media can be overrated and i think that there's such this desire for everyone like especially i was talking about TikTok and it's a lot of these people who are like in the middle of nowhere and it's like you can tell that they really want this following on TikTok and they're doing it and I hope it makes them happy but I hope that it becomes more of a discussion of like it's not for everyone you know people do have this idealized vision of what a celebrity life would look like and I used to want

that so badly and I always thought I was cut out for it and I'll never forget hearing Kim Kardashian being like I can I am meant to do this like she's meant to like she is one of those people that like she should have done this exactly yeah she is living her truth and then I remember when I came off the bachelorette I remember having a full conversation with myself in the mirror and going you do not like this you do not like all of this attention you do not like people like you were reminding yourself or you were wanting your remember this moment no I didn't want it I was like remember this moment you do not want to feel like this again like you were at the height of everything like on a cover of every magazine you do not like this and i'll never

forget that because now i'm like yeah i'm getting back into like tv and like it'd be cool to like get back into that world and i just would have to be really careful but i think that your thing is like you're a natural entertainer like you like to entertain yeah you laugh and i have that part of me too i think about my role as a kid and the family like i always was entertaining i was really loud i love making people laugh i love bringing people together i love making people feel safe So it's like that's what social media does for me, but I love that stuff. And I've been like that since I was a little too, and that's why I always wanted to be in entertainment. I didn't know what it was going to look like, but I wanted to entertain.

And so now I'm like, maybe I would do, did you, do you follow Taylor Lautner? The actor from like the wolf guy? Yeah. Yeah, he's adorable. But I know I don't follow him. He's adorable. I had him on my podcast recently, and he just did a whole thing. He was talking about how he went on a new thing to do like some press for the squeeze.

and he showed all the mean comments he was getting and it was like talking about like oh that bro's hair line oh god he didn't age well dude age like a raisin and blah and he's still so cute and looks the exact same and he was like you know years ago these comments remind me of why I don't read into comments

because it really doesn't matter what you think about me but he goes even like three years ago this would have really hurt me but I worked a lot of my mental health and blah and it just made me feel so sad because like It's a huge thing. And that's why I say the thing that I was saying, the overrated, that is because you also watch these people on like a TikTok or an Instagram who developed this big following, right,

that they maybe didn't necessarily want the following and you see them have complete breakdowns. And it breaks, it like breaks my heart. Like I think about like, because my sister is having kids now, both my brothers have kids, like I really think about kids and keeping kids like protected in their mind and keeping them innocent and stuff. And I just watch this social media obsession where everybody thinks that. They want to be famous. And I think because I spent all that time with huge celebrities.

And because I was coloring their hair, they'd go film a Jennifer Anderson, we'd go to Canada, film a movie, and I'd have to go up there to touch up her roots. Miley Cyrus would go on tour. I would go touch up her roots on tour. And I would watch the way that these really big celebrities would have to be in the world. I would go be with them for three days while they were on location. We wouldn't be able to leave the hotel. And it's like, you have to be, I mean, that's another level kind of fame.

Oh my gosh, I can't even imagine. But you have to think about, like, do you want that much attention? Do you want that many people watching your every move and stuff? And I just get afraid for, like, the younger generation. I'm so afraid for them. I think of that, too, because my niece is 15. And there was a period where I was like, oh, shit, she wants to be TikTok famous. But now she doesn't care at all.

And it's great. But I got really scared there for a moment. I'm going to play one game with you before I let you go. It's called Prophodile Dentist. Oh, my God. So we have to make a bed or something. Whoever whoever

makes the alligator snap you have to tell a really embarrassing story Oh my God Or you have to do a shot Okay embarrassing story Okay Pick a tooth any tooth

So wait what do you do? You just press a tooth down and he might bite you Oh my gosh Ah let's do it again okay okay okay okay oh my god oh yeah i love shit like this it really does something like

no isn't it the worst I love that though like my heart rate is so elevated I'm like sweating even when I was hot because the lights in here now I'm like really sweating. Oh my gosh. Do I stop my story? Yeah. Okay, this is a good one. When I was in high school, I was like a freshman in high school and we had me and my best friend, his brother was a

senior and he was like the coolest senior guy, like whatever. And whenever we hung out with him, we felt like really cool. So he took us to our first high school party and I grew up in a neighborhood where like high school parties like the Los Angeles Times one time wrote an article about our town because our high school parties were so over the top. Like it looked like the shit you'd see in a movie. Like we would have like, bam. and they'd be broken up by helicopters and stuff. It was just like a high school party town, right? And so I was just obsessed with going to high school party.

So the first high school party I ever went to, he took us. He was so cool, whatever. I was trying to fit in with all the older cool people. I went inside to go to the bathroom, and it was like one of the first times I drank. And for whatever reason, I had to take a shit. I had to go to poop. So I went upstairs, and I was like, okay, I'm just going to go really quick, like whatever. So I go upstairs.

There's a long line. I go into the bathroom, and there's a line waiting outside. I go to the bathroom. I'm just going to do this really quick or whatever. I go to flush the toilet. It won't flush. It's tough. And the whole line is like that.

Oh, no. So I took the toothbrush cup in the bathroom, scooped it out, and tossed it out the window. This is hilarious. And it went down into an area where a bunch of people were hanging out. And when we were down there, like, later, it didn't hit anyone. There was none of that type of thing. But later in the evenings, there were people who were like, what the hell is that smell out there? So that's my embarrassing story.

Ew, that's so gross. No, do you know why I'm laughing and said that's so funny? Lowe has the same story. He went and scoop the same thing and threw it out the window. I just remember I was like shaking. I was like in ninth grade or whatever and I was like shaking, freaking out

and I was like, but I'm like such like I'll always figure out something like I'm like a little ninja I'll take care of it. But yeah, it was, oh, it was the worst. That makes me so uncomfortable we're talking about right now. That actually is really good. I'm glad you shared that with us.

And with the class, I would say thank you for sharing with the class. Thank you so much for coming over and being on the pot. Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you want people to know? Where can they get your hair products? Oh, all of our products are on deepahue.com

and then Amazon and then we're in all Ulta Beauty stores. So across the nation, if you're out shopping and you see an Ulta Beauty store, check it out in UltaBeautu.com. But no, I think we covered everything. The one thing I want to say is just like, remember that people are hurting

and just like be nice. When we get caught up in like all of this stuff, you know, on the news and stuff, We're being fed things to get us angry and outraged, you know? And we're all allowed to vote the way that we want and believe in our beliefs or whatever. But I feel like too many people are getting too comfortable putting hate out into the world. And you have to realize that there are people who are small or if they feel small or they're part of a small community that they're being hurt right now. So just take it into consideration before you spew crap on the internet.

Because I'm seeing a lot of crap on social media right now. And I'm like, wow, people are getting really comfortable being hateful right now. Yeah, I agree. Um, okay, well, let's have a fun weekend, um, at your new condo. Let's do it. Okay. I'm so excited. Okay, fine.

Okay. Your session is now ending. Do we have to say bye or anything? Bye, guys. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now ending. And if I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind a rating in a movie. I'm John Glover.

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