Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Scheana Shay
Episode Date: February 21, 2019Kaitlyn hangs out with fellow Podcast One alum and reality star Scheana Shay to talk about Vanderpump Rules, currently airing their seventh season, the ladies recap the latest episode of the ...Bachelor and their impressions of Colton, and Scheana's big confession is about what she has NOT done... Brandless - Check out Brandless.com/vine for free shipping on orders $48+ Scentbird - Visit Scentbird.com/vine and use code VINE for 50% off your first month See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome to Great Therapy.
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Your session is now starting.
We have Vanderpump Brewl star.
Sheena Shea, also you have your own podcast.
Yes, I do.
Yes, and we're going to be doing that later after this one.
And you were just telling me that you lost your voice.
I did.
It's been gone since Sundance.
I left it in Park City.
It came back a little bit.
Then I went to Super Bowl.
Oh, that'll do it.
Then I went back to Atlanta for my friend's concert.
And then I was in Vegas this past weekend.
And now I'm here.
How can you even talk at all?
I don't know.
It like keeps coming back a little bit and then it just goes away again.
Wait, that's crazy.
Yeah.
And I had my friend's birthday party last night.
It was this crazy, like, sexy aliens versus Star Wars theme.
And it was so loud.
So then it's like, right when it was starting to come back, I lose it again.
Sexy alien what?
Versus Star Wars.
Wow.
Yeah.
Do you always go to like theme parties?
We have a lot of them.
Yeah.
It's our group of friends does a lot of theme parties.
What's your favorite theme party?
Ooh, I did a decades one, which was fun.
Like, I love, like, the 80s and stuff like that.
Oh, that's cool.
But last night was really fun.
I had a blonde wig.
I had these, like, crystals on my head.
I saw a picture of that.
Airbrushed.
It was really cool.
Actually, that was quite sexy.
Yeah, thanks.
Yeah, that was cool.
It's so funny because one of my friends in Vancouver, which is where I live for a while,
he lost his voice, and that was about eight years now.
And he never got it back.
I've lost range in my voice that I've never gotten back.
Really?
Literally.
Do you sing too, right?
I mean, I have some songs.
Yeah.
I am not a singer because this happens all the time.
But there were like certain notes that I used to be able to hit back in the day that it just does not come out.
It's just like air.
Am I allowed to ask how old you are?
Yeah, we're the same age.
Oh, we are.
33.
Okay.
Amazing.
I'm like, I think it's super sexy.
I always want to lose my voice.
Like, you know, Phoebe off friends.
Yeah.
That's me when I lose my voice.
Like, I want to lose it more.
I'll like go behind closed doors and scream just so like nobody hears me being idiot.
but then I still have the sexy voice and nobody like it doesn't bother me but um like I've always loved
when I was younger if I would lose my voice like I would feel the same way but now that it's great for a podcast
it is but now that I started doing music again I like cannot get back in the studio because my voice
hasn't come back to record my next song and like your voice is kind of what you need for your jobs
yeah pretty much it's not like you can give it a rest yeah I just make fun of myself all the time I'm like and
raspy Sheena's back yeah but that's good you should have like an alter ego for her
Ooh.
Yeah.
I'm going to come up with a name for her.
Last night I was Sierra and my blonde wig.
Yeah, but that's like such a blonde alien name.
Yeah.
You need like a raspy, like, like Joe, why am I dropping so many friends' references right now?
Joey's Estelle.
Yeah.
You need like to hold a fake cigarette and be like an Estelle.
Okay.
But I'll think of a better name because you can't steal that.
How often do you guys record?
Okay, here's my thing I have to tell you.
Okay, I don't know why it took me until today to why.
watch Vanderpump it's so good oh you didn't have to watch it well I want you know what all of my
friends do and everyone always talks about how good it is and I'm like I'm traveling all the time I'm
like I should start downloading it to watch on planes because I watched it one time and I'm like
hooked what season did you start it was six I think okay so last year wait I think it was your
birthday um this is why I was like you like theme parties it was just in my head you were like a
masquerade it was like a masquerade oh yeah that's right I did have a birthday party
season. And now I'm all intrigued. I'm like, was that girl pregnant from
Jack's, like, cheating? No. No. Okay. I'm like, I have so many questions from older
seasons. She has been banished. Oh, is she even on the show anymore? No. Oh, no. She was
barely on the show to begin with. And so how did that show all start? It was from all from a
restaurant. Yeah. And who's the sassy lady who like runs everything? Lisa Vanderpump. Yeah. Oh,
that's Lisa Vanderbump. Yeah. She's one of the real housewives of Beverly Hills. I don't know
anything. That's okay. Yes.
I can't wait to get so into this.
Yeah, so...
She is Queen Bee.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
She's amazing.
Yeah.
So all of us really have worked for her for like a decade plus.
Yeah.
And after second season of Housewives, they were filming at the restaurant, they just always
saw that there was like drama and shit going on that they had offered her a spinoff show
about the staff.
We shot a pilot in 2011.
Yeah.
It got picked up at the beginning of 2012 and we shot our first season and we've been
on air since January 2013.
Wow. Yeah. And what were you doing before the show? Acting mostly, a little bit of hosting. I got my degree in broadcast journalism. Oh, amazing. But I was doing a bunch of acting. Richie, who I brought with me. He's been my manager since like 2006. And I've never been out to Tennessee to visit him. So. What? Yeah. I know. First time here. Okay. So he lives here. Yeah. He's in Knoxville. Oh, Knoxville. Okay. Amazing. And this is your first time here. Yes. Wow. I'm so excited. It's been like in my top like cities of my.
my American bucket list to visit. Okay, tell me what you're going to do here. I don't know. I have a list
of things that people have recommended for me. Okay, I'll send you another list even though you won't
have time to do all of the things. Do you know where you're going for dinner after this? Um, no.
Oh. But I'm starving. So anywhere you recommend. I'm like, I brought wine, but not food. Yeah. No,
no, I'm good. And how long do you get to stay here for? Um, we're here till Saturday evening.
Okay. And you're doing the Pickler and Ben show tomorrow. Tomorrow in the morning. And then after that,
I don't have anything, like, set that I have to do.
Oh, and so what are you, are you just promoting, like, the Vanderpup?
Is there a new season or are you, yeah, we're on air right now, Monday nights at 9 o'clock
on Bravo.
Okay, wait, how many seasons are there?
Seven is airing right now.
Do I have to start at one to, like, know what's going on?
I mean, if you're going to watch it, I want to watch it, watch it, watch it.
You may as well get the whole backstory because, like, two of the people who are dating in the
beginning are now with other people, but then, like, one, cheated with this person,
and then this person slept with her best friend's boyfriend.
while her boyfriend was sleeping, there's a lot.
Yeah, I'm into it.
Yeah, I'm very into it.
And do you guys all get along now, or are there people who still?
Currently, I'm good with all of the girls.
Okay.
No matter where you start in the show, you'll see a lot of up and downs with me and three
of the main girls.
Okay.
But there's just, like, one guy on the show, James, who the majority of the cast doesn't
get along with.
I do.
We're cool.
But other than that, everyone right now is in a pretty good place, but,
We have our reunion coming up in a few weeks, and everything could change after that.
So you never know.
Oh, does that, does reunions, when they happen, do you like, does the stuff get spicy?
Like the women tell all, basically.
Oh, okay.
Uh-huh.
So you get to, like, relive some moments and have some arguments.
Yeah, it's so much fun.
Wow.
It's like the most emotionally draining day of the entire year for us.
No kidding.
Do you love doing it, though?
I do.
It's fun.
I mean, the good comes with the bad, but it definitely outweighs it.
Right.
people are judgmental and
of course you know but it's just like
you know what I'm what you wouldn't have a show
if you didn't have those people I'm like we're making
an entertaining television show and if you don't
like me that's fine you don't have to follow me
you don't have to like me well that's the thing is they still
follow you yeah and then like
comment all of this stuff that I'm just like
you're like you're really just getting my engagement
up and thank you for your time exactly
like whenever someone like will talk shit about my
song or my podcast or something I just say thanks for
listening yeah exactly you're talking about
it that's you're so right
Doing something right.
Isn't that funny?
Do you get a lot of trolls?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Like more troll and then...
Depending on the post or...
Really?
Yeah.
Like, what do you get hated on for?
So, I froze my eggs recently.
Oh.
I'm single.
I'm divorced.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, I froze my eggs, yeah.
Yeah, so I just did that.
Power to you.
Yeah.
You would think that a lot of women would support something like that.
If you look at the comments, I have over 3,300 comments on my post of just, of just, you
because I said it was easy and painless.
But that's you.
Why does your body have to be what somebody else wouldn't feel?
I'm like, but this was my personal journey, and I'm sharing that with the world.
I'm not going to make up that it was, like, terrible, and I was depressed, and the needles
killed me.
And I was like, I want women to know that, yeah, you know, if you have a problem with needles,
you're probably going to have a problem giving them to yourself.
Right.
But, like, I have 22 tattoos.
I have no problem with needles.
I get Botox every three months.
Totally.
Like, it doesn't bother me.
So I was like, I was really worried, too, that the hormones would make me, like, really depressed and I'd be crying myself to sleep every night.
But I had been on birth control for so long that my body was kind of, like, immune to the hormones.
And why wouldn't you be honest about how, like, about your journey there?
Because some, like, I had a different journey than that.
I had a tough time.
Not with the needles part.
I mean, at first I was like, this is kind of gross, but then I got used to it.
But I, the hormones really affected me.
I haven't been on birth control in years, in years and years.
And the hormones, like, that's actually why I went.
off birth control because hormones really mess with me.
Okay.
And so I was just a disaster through it.
But I still got hate for freezing my eggs just because, you know, there are women out there
who have problems just getting pregnant in the first place.
So they're very sensitive, which I understand being sensitive to not being able to get
pregnant.
But that's kind of why we're doing it as well.
That's the thing.
I'm like, I'm doing this now so that when I'm 40 or whenever, you know, I decide I want a baby
if that even happens.
Right.
I don't have all of these problems.
Right.
I'm not trying to have a baby right now.
I'm not doing IVF.
Like I'm not in the same place as women who have struggled with miscarriages and several
rounds of in vitro.
I'm like, but I'm not trying to do that.
I'm sure it would be very difficult emotionally and physically for me if I was trying
to have a baby and it wasn't working.
But like, I was just trying to save some eggs for a rainy day later.
And you're putting it out there for women who might not know that that's an option.
Yeah.
So many people did not know that like that was a thing.
Everyone thinks you just have to like freeze embryos or,
you know do IVF and I'm like no you can just freeze your eggs yeah and so we only got nine
though how many did you get oh I got 18 wow that's amazing yeah yeah I was quite proud of my
yeah yeah my AMH levels were like insanely low for my age probably because I've been on birth control
for like 20 years yeah it's crazy though to know those kinds of things yeah like there's one of my
girlfriends did it as well and she's quite a bit younger than me and she she just killed it like
I don't even know how much you got like triple what I got yeah which it's not a competition
And Caitlin, so competitive.
Yeah, but we got 12 and then there were only nine mature, so I'm going to do a second
round this summer just because I, like, 18 would be a gold number of mine because a one
and nine chance after it's fertilized, genetically tested, all of that is just not enough
for me.
So because it was easy and painless for me, I'm going to do it again.
I wouldn't do it again because I'm someone who doesn't even know if I want kids one
day like I'm like I said single and divorced and I don't know if that's going to change so I don't as
of now I have personal insurance for yourself and and the thing that I get frustrated about is that this
is your decision and this is your body and this is how you feel and this is how you react and you're
not saying somebody else's journey is bad or not for you it's to each their own yeah and if that
was easy for you and that was a decision you made then I don't get why people are saying yeah and
there was a lot of support like coming in but
But there was just so much negativity on that post.
I could not believe it because I said it was easy and painless.
I'm like, it was so frustrating.
I'm just like, lied to everybody.
Yeah, right?
That would have made you a better person if you just lied to all your followers.
Even the other night, I was in Vegas and I posted a photo.
And I mean, I just, I'm a naturally petite person.
I had put on a bunch of weight several years ago.
Lost it again, got in shape and a healthy weight.
I eat a lot.
I've already had a couple meals today.
I can't wait for my next one.
I'm excited for the Nashville food.
Yeah.
But like my waist, just especially the angle was like really tiny.
It was just like 900 comments, like anorexic, too skinny.
I'm like, when did that become okay?
Like, it's not okay to say someone's too fat, but it's okay to say someone's too skinny.
And it's okay to like make fun of them and assume that I have an eating disorder, which I struggled
with in college and I don't anymore.
Yeah.
Isn't that just, it's unbelievable to me that people can go on somebody's photo and comment on
their weight about having like an eating disorder.
Yeah.
There are like, if say you did now, would that help you?
Exactly.
If somebody came on and said something to you like, oh, it looks like this.
You know, like people have body dysmorphia.
People have those disorders.
And for you to go on there, whether it's true or not, that's affecting somebody in a
negative way.
Yeah.
And it's not healthy for anyone, you know, like I get, I get comments all the time about my weight
just because I have a tiny human being as well.
Yeah, you are really tiny.
But it's just like if you're like my sister, she's five foot, like 98 pounds wet.
I mean, we're just petite.
Yeah.
People don't get that though.
Yeah, no.
And I always say, too, like you can eat an apple sometimes and people will come after you for it.
It's just you never know what somebody.
You could save like starving children in Africa and someone would come after you for me.
Like you weren't carrying that kid the right way.
That's true.
Oh, it's so true.
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm terrified to have kids on social media.
Oh, my God.
I'm like, I, too, you got out of a divorce and you moved on quite.
quickly, right? Yes. So I just got out of a relationship. And in people's mind, I've moved on
quickly, but nobody really knows what the story was with the relationship for the last
year. Yeah. And I'm getting hated on right now for just being happy. Yeah. That's what
you're happy bitch too soon. Right? Like, why do you not want me to be happy? And I don't get it. At the time
when I moved on, I was, I was very happy. Like, the happiest I had been in a long time.
Yeah. What ruined it was him becoming a part of the show. Like, then there was a rumor made up
that he cheated on me. And he just
couldn't deal with that pressure
and his reputation
and people thinking he was this
and he just like clamped up the rest of the season
and just looked so uninterested in me
but in private was all about me
but like on camera was just very awkward
and even the season that's airing right now
my best friend Adam filmed a bunch with me
we like kind of like started dating
but like not like exclusively like we just like went on dates
and then we started hooking up and whatever
but he's an actor who's comfortable on camera
playing characters and playing a role
he's not comfortable on camera being himself
and like in scenes that makes it look like
he's like awkward around me
I'm like it's because we're filming
he has a microphone on there cameras
there's a boom mic like that's you have to
like really get used to that type of lifestyle
to be natural on camera
yeah especially with dealing with other people's opinions
of you like if you can't keep up with that
and just be yourself that ruins it
Yeah. Oh, so you guys broke up, obviously.
Well, we were never together.
Oh, no, no, no. We're still, like, best friends and whatnot.
It was just like, we, like, went on a date on the show, and then we're still, like, you just found out that we hooked up for the first time, like, a couple weeks to go.
Okay, okay, okay.
It drags out for the entire season, and it's kind of explosive in the finale.
Oh, when is the finale?
Like, probably 10 episodes from now.
And is that finale finale finale, like you guys are going to be done?
No, I don't think so.
Oh, just the season finale.
Oh, my gosh.
I can't wait to just binge
There's so much
But it's like if you just started now
Like you wouldn't get any of the backstories
And like why these people are friends
And why that's so weird
And like why this person hates this person
Okay I will start from season one pilot
And then you can see the transformation of us
Everyone thinks we've had plastic surgery
And it's like filler and Botox
Absolutely I've had Botox since before the show
Yeah that I
Well that's another social media thing
Yeah
Everyone says you have plastic surgery
And it's like, it's called new eyebrows.
Yeah.
It's called contouring your cheekbones, filler, and Botox.
You learn.
You don't go under the knife.
No.
And people are always like, even like I posted a picture last night with that crazy makeup.
They're like so much prettier before the plastic surgery.
And I'm like, what did I have done and when did I have it done?
Because I literally snapchop my face every single day.
Yeah.
So when did I recover from the supposed plastic surgery on my face?
I saw in a magazine once that I had chin surgery.
Oh yeah.
I had a chin implant.
Yeah.
I've had a nose job.
apparently sometimes I've had a boob job I'm like I'm like an A cop
but it's like I have good bras but it's just like all the time people just saying
that we've had worked and I'm like we just got better at makeup I got better at lashes
it's so true I got my eyebrows microbladed like I know and you learn a lot from being on TV
and dealing with makeup artists every day and hair people and you have people that'll help
you with all those things so I know yeah so it's like I mean I would hope I don't look the
way I looked season one like yeah that same thing I get it all the time people are like
You much prettier with brown hair.
I'm like,
Ouch, thanks.
I have blonde hair now.
I can read your comments.
And then other people are like,
you were so much prettier three years ago.
Or you look so different.
I'm like, well, of course I look different.
Yeah, we've grown up.
Right.
And Botox.
Yeah, of course.
But it's like, yeah, like a filler.
I'm like, and I admit it.
And I will like instillive it when I'm getting it done.
So I'm like, why would I admit to certain things and not the rest?
And again, it's not like you're promoting everyone should go get it.
You're like, this is what I want to do because it's my face.
Exactly.
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Okay, so explain to me how you got in shape
because... So
after I got married, I
wore a two-piece wedding dress
and I was not in shape then
at all. And I did have like the back fat
kind of bulging out of it, but I was just like...
Was it just like... It was back fat.
Okay. But I just like
didn't care at the time
which probably says something. Why I'm
worst um no that's great no but it was just like then i just i didn't really care yeah and after
the episode started airing all of my photos came out like there were the photos that i posted that
were photoshoped and i took my back fat out but the ones that were in the magazine i like didn't
have approval on all of them and so i just had so many people just like attacking me for how ugly my
dress was the crop top wedding dress my back fat and this and that and finally it just got to the point
where I'm like, you know what?
Like, this is something that bothers me.
I'm going to do something about it.
And I started working out with my personal trainer, Seth Browning.
He put me on a meal plan.
I was in the gym seven days a week.
Yikes.
I just like, if I do something, I'm all in.
I don't have fast it.
And then once I started losing weight, then it was like, okay, then I started feeling good.
I've kept it off for four years.
I enjoy working out.
We just had a fitness book come out.
They went number one on Amazon the first day.
Wow.
congratulations thanks yeah we did a book signing last night in west hollywood what's it called it's
called sheena slim down nice yeah so he wrote it but it's all about me and just like my
transformation but i'm like i've always been a petite person so like for me to go from being a zero
to a four like that was a huge difference for me that's still small i know that i'm not saying i was
ever fat by any means but being on camera as an actress and now like reality tv it's like you know
that extra, I had a 30 pound fluctuation.
Like, I went from 100 to, like, 133.
Right.
And you're a shorter, too, so people don't understand that that's, like.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But now I'm, like, right in the middle, like, and it's, like, my perfect weight, but still, it's not good enough.
No, of course not.
And it never will be.
When I was bigger, I was so unhealthy.
Like, I had midnight snacks every night.
I drink whiskey, beer, wine, like, every night on top of the rest of it.
It was just like, I was not, but like, I mean, excessively.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I was not living a healthy lifestyle, but because I was thicker, it seemed that I was healthier.
I'm like, I'm the healthiest I've ever been.
Yeah, that's the thing.
And you know what?
That's all that matters is that you feel healthy, that you feel good.
That's, like, part of my confession is that I don't know who the hell I thought I was this last weekend.
But I was, like, in Boston at, like, these crazy nightclubs, and they put me in.
So the bottle service girls come out.
Oh, I saw this.
Yeah.
And so they go in like these little like Barbie jeeps and they'd get like, I don't know, like carried around the club in this like mini little power wheels and the guys are carrying them and then they drop off your bottle and it's this big thing.
And so this girl comes out in this little Barbie Jeep and I was like, I go up to the like owner and go, Johnny, get me in that car.
Yeah.
Right now.
I would do the same thing.
Yeah.
And he goes, okay, give me a second.
And so once the girl goes back in, I go in.
it was so much fun but I the whole weekend I'm just um so I'm starting to date Jason and yeah I want to
talk about that on my show we'll definitely talk about that and so we I'm meeting his friends I'm like
we have obligations to be at in Boston and so we're just going for it so all these people are like
they party too much and I'm like I agree that was a heavy weekend yeah that was I mean I
I don't know who I thought I was oh I was at strip clubs all weekend in Las Vegas there you go on top of
being at Hyde and all over the strip so so on brand so on brand
though yeah yeah it was so fun
we went to Sapphire the first night
and then we went to Hustler the second night so we got
the girls and then we got the guys what is
wait was the first one Sapphire
Sapphire that's the guys no that's the girl one
and then Hustler is both
but the guys are on the top floor
and the girls are on the first floor I never knew that
please tell me that that's where your confession comes
in um it's related
okay but
please continue do you want to know what it is
yeah okay so people don't believe this I've never
masturbated. I have three vibrators still in the package. I've never opened. Okay. I'm sorry. Why?
I would just rather have the real thing, a body and a person to make out with and just sometimes, oh, so you just have your pick of the litter all the time. Like you could always just be like, that guy, that's what I want tonight. Well, I mean, back in my like early single days. Yeah. Yes, I absolutely did.
Oh, that just seems like so much effort and you have to be all like feel good about yourself in front of a guy. I'm like, that was. That was. That was.
when I didn't care, so I just
did not give a fuck back in my early 20s.
Then I was in a relationship for six and a half
years. Then I got right into
another relationship for a little less
than a year. And then
we stayed friends with benefits for a while. So
it's always been very consistent in my
life. But then... Gosh,
I see sometimes I would just rather be like,
yeah, let me do it. No,
I just... You never, I don't know. I can't do it.
No. You've never tried? No,
my friend Janet, like, she's always
like, no, you need to do this. You need to do this. You need to do
And I'm just like, I don't know, I feel so weird.
Well, I feel so sorry for you.
Yeah, but I mean, I have really good sex.
Well, that's great.
I don't usually have orgasms either, the confession number two.
But I'm out.
I've had some in the last year.
It's just, I don't know.
It's, I mean, it is normal.
Like, I've talked to doctors about it.
Really?
Yeah, like, they said that some women just don't.
But, like, we're at that age where we're, like, in our sexual prime.
Yeah.
And I think it just took the right person and the right way.
because I did, like, over the past, like, year and a half, like, I've had quite a few, but still, it's not every time.
Wow.
Yeah.
And you're fine with that.
Yeah, I mean, I really enjoy sex and I'm good.
And I'm like, you can't miss what you've never had.
So it's not like, my ex-husband gave me orgasms all the time, and now I've never had one again.
That's fair.
Now when I get one, I'm like, ooh, this is fun.
But doesn't that make you want more?
Yeah, then you just go for round two.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, so now you're the orgasm queen.
You know.
Just two in one session.
Okay.
But I'm also, if you watch Vanderpomberles this season, you'll see how good I am at faking one as well.
They show that?
Yeah.
In an acting class.
Oh, you do it in an acting class.
Okay, I was like, wow.
Okay, how saucy do we get on this show?
What channel is this on?
Yeah, exactly.
So, okay, I'm sure this is like, what's the number one question you guys get asked on the show?
Ooh.
Like, is it scriptage?
Right.
guys really work there right but it's like any more so like you have to understand this is season
seven yeah so obviously we don't do the show for free yeah of course you get paid more money
each year your job progresses also going to the restaurant now we can't take a section of tables
without every single person wanting to photo wanting to ask me about my divorce my new boyfriend
my best friend like talk to me about my hair my nails like I can't work a normal shift there anymore
and also they pull tips.
So a couple years ago, I, like, we went to the managers and we're like, look, here's
the thing.
Like, we're all, like, making decent money now.
Like, we don't need to take tips from people who this is their only job.
Yeah.
And once it was, like, worded that way, they're like, okay, we appreciate that.
We thought, like, you guys were just, like, too good to keep working here.
And we're like, no, I'm happy to still, like, pick up a shift, help out, like, all go in.
It's more like modified shifts now.
We go in.
We clock in.
I help out where it's needed.
and then I have dinner after I enjoy it I meet fans and it's just like that's what works for us now because I'm like it would be so unfair for us to be pulling tips when I'm taking photos the whole night and you're checking on my tables because I'm too busy talking to fans yeah that makes sense a lot of people always said like for bachelor people too why don't you go back to your real jobs yeah and it's like well you can for some people and some you just can't right and if you did it would be almost inappropriate like and it wouldn't be fair to people yeah so oh
Okay, so, and, like, the scandals and the relationships, they're all real?
Everything on our show, unfortunately, is real.
I wish there's so...
I love that.
But, like, I wish there were things that I could be like, oh, no, that was scripted.
Oh, no, my producer made me say that.
Like, no, everything...
Same thing, people always ask, Bachelor.
Oh, it's scripted.
I'm like, no, no, it's actually all real.
It's edited.
Yeah, of course.
It's produced and edited.
Like, it's not like there's just cameras at my door.
I mean, I have a call time.
I get a mic on.
That scene has to be lit.
the place has to be cleared like it's still a production right but it's everything that happens in
the show is real and they're like oh but like you guys do reenactments and like pick up scenes and it's
like if there's something that happened off camera that became a huge like storyline yeah then yeah
we may have to film an additional conversation about it so the audience can see what happened
so you're caught up and it's not fake yeah it's not like audience be caught up on what's actually
happening but stuff wouldn't make sense if you didn't do that exactly yeah so oh reality
TV. I always think about that because I'm like
one season for me, well I guess I did
too technically. I don't know how
you're doing that many. Yeah.
Do you get just drained?
It is emotionally draining.
Weed helps.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I could see that.
Yeah, but that was one thing that I had to give up when I was freezing my
eggs. So I went 50 days, no weed, no liquor.
Like, I just had to give it all up.
And I was completely fine. So I was like,
okay, good to know that the crutches I was using.
I actually don't need it.
It was just like my way of just like masking emotions.
And since I did freeze my eggs, the best thing I think that came out of it is I learned
more so how to deal with situations without using a crutch.
That's a good way to look at it too.
Because everyone's like, did you feel like so amazing?
Like not drinking, not smoking.
I'm like, my body did not feel any different.
It wasn't like I'm like, oh my God, I wake up with so much more energy.
Like I'm never smoking weed again.
I felt the exact same.
It just like mentally proved how strong I am.
That's a great way to look at that.
I like that a lot.
Yeah.
Now I'm looking back at it.
I'm like, hey, me too.
I wasn't drinking.
Yeah.
Oh.
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So you watch Bachelor, obviously.
Obviously.
And tell me what your thoughts are this season.
Have you watched the most recent one?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, I watched it.
And then I was so tired because I came back from Vegas on Monday.
Right.
So I started watching it.
And then I fell asleep and I woke up and it was like already over.
And I'm like, hold on.
What happened?
So I rebound, watch the second half again.
Yeah.
I'm like trying to
I've started
I've got some notes
but like
he's been told now by five
contestants
contestants that Kaylyn
and Cassie are an issue
okay well let's just
do you know how it ends
this season?
No
okay so
do you?
Yeah
okay but don't tell me
no no I'm not going to
but so it just makes me
look at things differently
because I'm like
yeah but I know things
right
I know things too
I was just trying to like
I was like no
I don't know yeah I do
but like I just
I mean literally
Caitlin and Cassie have been like two of my favorites
from the beginning and I just
I think that they're two of the prettiest ones
they're two who he's super interested in
I think these other girls feel
threatened by them but I just
don't believe that they're
in it to be the next
bachelorette they both seem so genuine
to me so and like they were both
shocked when this was like brought up to them
that's what I was looking for too
but I did not say that
and I'm thinking like
back to being in the house
I think everybody talks about
like, oh, would you if this didn't work?
Yeah, it's a normal conversation.
But I don't think that either of them
came on the show with those intentions.
I think they genuinely
are falling in love with Colton.
And that's why they're there.
I think they are there for the right reasons.
And I think the girls who are saying things
about them behind their backs to him
are maybe not.
Like, Demi, like, just the way he sent her home, though,
I was...
Oh, God, I thought you said dummy.
No, dummy.
I'm like...
Like, that's a funny nickname. Demi, yeah?
Yeah, but I was like, I did not see that coming.
Like, she goes over and was like, maybe he won't be a virgin after tonight.
And then it was like, and you're going home.
That backfired.
She was one who it was like, you know, she was so confident in this not.
And then it's like, she thought she was like the youngest, prettiest, best one in the house.
And then he sends her home and I was like, well, just so you know, like these girls aren't here for the right.
It's like, you're just bitter.
Well, exactly.
It's so obvious, I think, well, maybe to people who have been on reality to you.
But just to the audience in general, because you're like, I just saw what happened.
you got sent home you're mad you don't have the same connection that these girls do so you're mad
I see that too but I'm like gosh I just want to know what like because we don't have any proof I know
we haven't see and I'm like that show is filmed like they film a lot yeah should have some proof
or footage that they could like cut to of them talking about those things because they're always miced
it probably didn't happen right conversation never happened and that's what I was watching for when
they're getting called out and they're genuinely shocked yeah you could tell and like do you really
think like Kailen's going to like open up to him about the worst thing that ever happened to her
in her life if like she's just like trying to like be the next bachelorette like you know i don't
think she would have shared that part of her that's true with someone she wasn't genuinely
interested in and falling for yeah and what do you think of colton as a bachelor oh i love him
he did my podcast the day after it premiered oh really and i had met him a couple times before
yeah and like we've kept in touch he is just such a sweetheart i mean he's so handsome yeah i the first
night I met him, he came into Pump, one of Lisa Vanderpump's restaurants, and it was the night
of the men tell all. Oh, yeah. And Will's is a friend of mine, and I know a couple of the guys from
that season. So I was, like, hanging out with them for a few, and then they all left to go to a club,
and then I see Colton walk in. I was like, who is this tall drink a water? Like, okay. And then I
see it's Colton, and he just, like, looks like the tallest lost puppy ever. And so I was like,
he's probably looking for his friends, and I went over to him. I was like, hi, I was like,
I'm Sheena. You don't know me, but, like, I know who you're looking for. And he's,
and they just went around the corner so he was like thank you so much he's like i didn't know
like what i was walking into and i was like yeah yeah they just left and then i saw him at a chargers
game and then he did my podcast and now like we're friends yeah yeah but um he's so nice i think he's
amazing he just seems so absolutely genuine and he's doing such a good job yeah i like him as a
bachelor who's your favorite girl um kalen and cassie who you're rooting for cassie since night one
has been my favorite yeah i love
liked her and then i liked the um her name was brie the one who had the fake off show in that i liked her but she went home a while ago yeah i thought she was gonna go far yeah i did too i was shocked by that yeah i was like wow she was one of the prettiest girls in that house and just i mean if you don't feel it you don't feel it yeah that's so she seemed a little quiet yeah and looks aren't everything yeah she came in hot with like a one liner guns blazing and then faded yeah i'm trying to think of who else oh what about how to g what do you think about how to g oh i yeah i wait wait wait wait
Wait, okay, wait, there's two Hannas.
Yes.
Hold on.
Hannah B.
The one who got the first impression rose.
Hanna G.
That's Hanna G.
Yeah.
Okay, yes.
I like her.
Okay.
The other Hannah.
Hannah B.
With the dimples, the pageant one.
Yes.
See, I never like saying bad things about people because people do it about me.
Yeah.
But she just on the show, haven't met her in person.
I might love her.
Yeah.
Erked me.
Right.
Like Crystal Nielsen on her season and Boucher in Paradise.
Yeah.
Erked me.
Yeah.
We're really good friends now.
Like we'll FaceTime and stuff
And it's just like once I met her in person
I'm like oh my God
And we have so much in common
But it's like again you're watching
An edited version of this person
I am very annoying on my show
That's the edit you see
You see the 20% annoying Sheena
And not the 80% like awesome
But it's like Colton's been on three seasons
Bachelor at Paradise Now Bachelor
And I feel like I got to know him more
On my podcast in 45 minutes
Than you have in those three seasons
That's the thing
It's because, like, you get, like, the full picture of someone when you have conversations with them and when you're not watching an edited version.
So that Hannah, show-wise, I couldn't wait for her to go home.
I know.
I am curious to see what she's like off-camera, but I didn't see it coming because Colton's parents seemed to really like her.
Yeah.
He told me on my podcast that they loved her.
Uh-huh.
And then he just was, like, not feeling it.
But she handled it well for Hannah-Bee.
Yeah.
You know?
Definitely.
And I, what did you think about the pink dress?
Because I was obsessed.
I loved the shoulders.
power shoulder. There's nothing like a good power shoulder. No, I thought it was amazing.
That, like, made me like her a little more because I was like, okay, well, at least you dress nice.
Totally. And then there's Tasia, who's kind of stirring the pot a little bit.
See, and I liked her up until, like, this past week when she said those things, because just looking at her and her body language and the way her delivery was with this conversation, I was just like, you're lying.
Right. You're literally making this up, and I cannot stand liars. It's one thing to, like, bend the truth, tell half the story, but,
To just completely make up something, like...
It's so weird, though, because I just can't picture her line like that.
But then you're like, but we don't have evidence of anything.
Right.
And to pick the two, like, who I think are, like, the frontrunners and to say those two,
like, two of the prettiest girls, two of the sweetest girls, two of the most genuine,
are the ones not there for the right reasons.
I'm like, no.
Yeah.
If they said that about Hannah Pink Dress or Demi, like, I would have been like, okay,
I can see that.
They seem kind of like the attention ones.
So it's like all about me and like whatever.
But Kaylin and Cassie just seems so genuine to me.
Gosh.
I'm trying to think of who.
See, I really loved Tasha until.
Yeah, same.
And it made me question everything.
Uh-huh.
And then he says he's like falling in love with her and could see a live with her.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa.
I know.
This bitch is lying.
Now who do we want for Bachelorette?
That's what I wanted to ask you.
Um, I think we need to go back in time.
Yeah, I mean, I think Kailen would be great.
She kind of reminds me of Brit, actually, a little bit.
Yes, she reminds me of Britt.
Right?
So much, yes.
Yeah.
Totally.
So I could see her, I think, out of who's left.
Yeah.
I think she would be a good one.
But they're also, these girls are so young.
You're 23.
Yeah.
No one should be ready for marriage at 23.
But Chris Harrison pointed this out to me.
Jojo is 24.
Yeah.
She was 24.
That seems so young, too.
It does.
Like, because.
I'm 33.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I, I don't, yeah, do you think back onto your 20s and be like, yeah, I mean,
I got married when I was 29 and you clearly weren't ready.
No.
There was, we should have never gotten married at that point in our lives.
Like, if we would have waited even another year, like, we probably would have just broken
up instead of having to go through a divorce.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
So tough.
Yeah, that's, I mean, the thing with coming out of the show is I feel like you stay engaged
for so long.
Yes.
And then you decide to break up or get married.
But, like, it was three and a half years for me.
I'm like, yeah, this isn't happening.
Yeah.
This isn't happening.
Okay, so some questions for you.
Okay.
And I'm going to ask questions from me and from listeners.
Okay.
What is your favorite part about being single?
Ooh, having options.
Not masturbating, that's for sure.
No, I've been, I don't date much.
Like, I don't really go on a lot of dates.
Yeah.
But I recently, like, started going on dates.
and it's just like I like
and I'm not sleeping around
so I just want to put that out there
just because I'm like hanging out with multiple
evil I'm not sleeping with all them
but I enjoy
having the options like it's fun
like this one guy I click with on this level
this one's good for this and it's just like
it's fun and everyone
knows like I've made it very clear
like I am not looking for a relationship
right now I am focusing on myself
but like I enjoy
the male company I mean
I enjoy the attention so
that don't make you bad people yeah exactly
how has being on reality TV affected your personal life
um well I'm divorced and twice single
do you think that's from being on TV 100%
yeah there were a lot of things that happened
in my marriage that probably should have stayed private but were put on the show
and then same so hard it was like but my husband had dealt with addiction
and I had a drinking problem and that was a huge I was
pretty much our whole storyline season four and as much as that probably should have been made private
because we dealt with a lot of it off camera telling that story like thousands of people were
inspired to like get help to like go to rehab and tell their parents that they had a problem
they're just like wow you put this out there for the world like we're afraid to tell our friends
and so that's the thing I love the most about doing this job I'm like look if I can help one person
then I'm doing my job that's so true that's a good way to look at it too because
there are a lot of negative things
that can come with putting your life out there
even just having a podcast
just putting your life out there
social media podcast being on a TV show
you can open up your world
to a lot of hate but you can also open
up people's eyes
and minds to helping
themselves and doing
bigger better things for that
and being brave enough to have the conversation
about it and move forward
and I really think too last season
if we weren't filming and this rumor
was like made up about my ex-boyfriend cheating on me
it would have just been like brushed off but the second
he knew that this was something that was filmed
and talked about on camera
he just completely shut down
never was the same and then literally broke up with me
two weeks after we wrapped filming which made it look like
he was only staying with me to stay on the show
when he said he didn't want to be on the show
but it just it wasn't a good look for him
and yeah
did he have social media? Oh yeah
Yeah, he got up to 100K from me.
I know.
But does he still?
Yeah.
Oh, then he must like it a little bit.
Exactly.
He loves it.
Like, he will respond to fans.
I get screenshots of, like, conversations sent to me all of the time.
Okay.
Like, he loves it.
I'm now blocked, but so I can't see.
But I'm like, I have more than one Instagram if I really wanted to stalk you.
That's so funny.
I've heard that from some of my girlfriends that they have, like, stalker Insta accounts.
Well, I mean, I have my podcast.
account and I don't think he was smart enough to think to block that unless he's listening to
this he's probably a huge off the vine guy that's so okay do you are you a stalker of your
exes no okay me either I never look like even if I'm going on a date with someone new yeah like if
we hit it off and whatever like maybe I'll follow them like if it's going to be like a friendship
thing and like we went on a date but like let's just be friends or whatever yeah but I never
scroll down I don't want to see your past relationship I never look at who they follow
me either never look at whose photos they like because it's so much healthier that way if you go through and look at whose photos they go why are you liking this girl's bikini fucking no just don't look yeah i'm so with you on that so many girls do that and ruin their confidence yeah when it's nothing yeah i only went to his page and found out i was blocked because my single called better without you yeah came out um a week ago yeah and he was like throwing shade on his story about me and i had several people thanks for the
promotions yeah several people send me screenshots and I was like wait I need to see this and I went
to look and I was like oh he blocked me that's kind of flattering yeah so whatever because he cares
yeah exactly what uh wait no you said earlier you had how many tattoos like 22 I stopped counting
yeah what is your favorite tattoo um probably this one it's all happening oh yeah or my newest one
1111. My mom and I got that.
Oh, 1111. Yeah. Every day
we like see that number and
make a wish. I love that. Do you follow
Paris Hilton on Snapchat? I don't.
You're missing out on so much
gold. Okay. She used to all the
time. All the time at 11.11.
I don't know if she set her alarm for 1111
two times of the day, but she'd always do this voice
and she'd go, 1111, make a wish.
And I like stuck with me.
And now I always do it. I'm like, and now I love
1111. Yeah. Yeah.
I like that.
I'm like, I have like eight tattoos.
Yeah, I have like, but I have like a bunch of small ones.
Do you count those?
Yeah, I mean, I have all four of my fingers.
Oh, that's cool.
And then I have this one, this one, this one.
So it's like I have, how do you even deal with those nails?
Everyone asks that.
The thing is, I've had long nails since like junior high.
Look at my nails.
I can't even work with these.
Yeah, I can't function without them.
I can't do my eyelashes.
I can't text.
Like, if my nails get cut down too short, like especially my thumbs,
I, for some reason, like, cannot text.
I can't text with, like, even a little...
Yeah.
No, I have to have them to function.
Wow.
Parting my hair.
That's like...
That's a skill.
Yeah, my jewelry.
How do you wipe your butt?
That's what everyone asks.
And I'm like, same as you do.
I'm not digging.
I mean, it just...
It's very easy.
Okay, why am I picturing this?
Like, next question.
Do you have a life motto?
Just to, you know, I think everything happens for a reason.
and just to be kind.
Yeah.
I love that.
I always just try and see the brighter side of things,
even if I'm having like a pessimistic day.
Like I have those people in my life.
We're like, yo, yo.
And I'm like, I know, I know.
Yeah.
But yeah, I think everything happens for a reason.
And you may not know that reason at the time,
but eventually it all makes sense.
It all makes sense.
I feel that same way.
Yeah.
And, okay, I'm going to get to questions from the list.
because we're running our time this this one stood out to me what happened with Robbie from
the bachelor oh god what happened is this a thing did you guys know this one was coming yeah um
no actually but okay so if you watch season seven you'll see him and i go on a date and it was
very like bachelorette-esque this like date we like go up to like the um sky scape the slide
at the top of the, like, whatever bank, the U.S. Bank in L.A.
And it was like the music they chose and everything.
It was so cheesy. It was hilarious.
Did you actually like him?
I did.
Okay.
Did.
Past tense.
We became really good friends.
We have, so my best friend, Adam, who I like kind of dated, hooked up with for the last eight months, whatever.
Yeah. They went to college together.
Okay.
They weren't, like, super close.
They weren't in the same frat.
They never lived together, but they've known each other since college.
Okay.
So one night, Adam was at Sir and Robbie, Chase McNary, Corey Brooks, like, all of these, like, Bachelor
Big Brother people were there.
And we just, like, became friends.
I had a boyfriend at the time.
And then after Rob and I broke up, Robbie and I just, like, started hanging out a little bit more.
I had moved to Vegas for, like, five months.
He came out and supported me for my show opening night.
every week I would fly back to do my podcast on Wednesdays
because I only had one day off doing the show.
He would pick me up at the airport,
let me crash at his place on the west side.
Like literally was one of the reasons I moved to the west side
is because after staying with him so many times when I flew back,
I'm like, it's so nice being close to the airport, close to the beach.
Like I love waking up on the west side.
I didn't move there to be closer to him.
It was just like, he convinced me like the west side is the best side
and I couldn't agree more.
Yeah.
But then we went on our date.
on camera yeah and then he like needed something for me social media wise and i haven't seen him
since and i haven't talked to him since october classic yeah so that's embarrassing like you're
welcome that's so embarrassing i know and we literally live a five-minute walk from each other
what if you saw him like what would you do um i don't know i mean i just like i'm so past
caring at this point like yeah totally we had plans he was in mexico
at like a wedding.
Yeah.
And him and I had plans to hang out when he got back.
I was like, dude, I miss our like Robbie Sheena days.
Like just like BFF hangout days.
Yeah.
And I was like, we need one of those soon.
And he was like, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Like I'm back from Mexico tomorrow.
I texted him that night the next night.
And I was like, oh, do you make it back safe?
He's like, yeah, just doing some laundry and whatnot going to crash early.
I was like, all right.
I was like, still on for tomorrow, right?
And then that was like mid-October.
That was the last time you talked to him?
I've never heard from him again.
I'm like, what the hell?
What happened that next day?
Like, I have an issue with one of his roommates
who was a complete piece of shit
to his girlfriend who I became really good friends with.
And I'll tell you who he is off air.
He was also on that show.
Gotcha.
But I don't know.
And, like, Robbie doesn't even like him.
Literally, like, they're two roommates who hate each other
and talk shit about each other,
but act like their best friends.
It's the fakesest thing I've ever seen.
Oh, that sounds terrible.
I don't know if something was said in that one.
one day, but I've never heard from him again.
I'm like, I didn't do anything wrong.
That's so interesting.
And he got something from you on social media?
He, it was like this new restaurant that opened up on the West Side that he, like, wanted me to go with him to, like, do a little lunch date and, like, help, like, promote the company.
Yeah.
And I was, like, supposed to get paid for it.
Do you think I did?
Shady.
Yeah.
Ew!
Yeah.
First it was like this amount.
And then he was like, oh, no, it's that amount.
split between us and then I still never
got it. Oh, that
I would, you know what? One time I was seeing
a guy in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
before I went on the show, like, before
I went on a bachelor. And we
had broken up and I had moved to Vancouver and then
that's when they called me to go on the show.
And when
they called me to go on the show, I
found out that the guy that I had broken
up with already was cheating on me
during that time too. And I
made him give me my PlayStation back. Yeah.
you need to get your money right yeah that's i would go after a playstation yeah i'm sure it was
a decent amount of money yeah that's so crazy and we're still fine my friends which is the weirdest
thing you are yeah like i'm like i just like refuse to stop sharing my location with them because
i'm like whatever you can see where i'm at i don't care but i'm like this is so weird we
haven't spoken in three and a half months but like we're still fine my friends do you have a lot of
those people on find my friends i think probably like 15
I've got zero.
Yeah.
I mean, if I wanted to, like, be shady, you just, like, stop.
Like, you just turn your location off at the time being.
But then they would know you're being shady.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I ain't down with that.
Yeah.
I just don't want to put myself in that position.
Yeah.
I mean, it started out, like, just with, like, me and my sister is, like, a safety thing.
Like, you know, so we could, like, check and make sure we made it home safe.
Yeah.
And then it was like, and then all my girlfriends and I in our group chat, like, added each other.
And then, like, the guys, like, Robbie and the guys in the house were like, oh, that sounds fun.
Like, let's all do it.
And so it's just been like a thing for a couple years now that we still share location with each other.
It's so weird.
That is weird.
I know.
Now this one makes more sense.
Rachel Nash says, how uncomfortable was it to watch the acting lesson scene from the season?
And now I'm like, I get it.
Yeah, it was very uncomfortable to watch because also when I was in the scene, like, I don't know what I look like.
My eyes are closed.
I don't know what I look like having this fake orgasm.
Now you know what you look like.
So then I'm like, and I looked like shit that day had no makeup on it, a bun at like a sports bra.
Like I was not cute.
That sounds cute.
I like looked like like porn starish.
Yeah.
Like I had like full hair and makeup when I was doing that scene.
So I'm like dreading watching this.
And then I just have multiple guy friends just sending me videos of me doing this.
Oh boy.
And then it became like GIF.
I'm pretty sure it did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then the only thing I could think of was like my best friend out of.
I was like, oh my God.
Oh, yeah.
That's the worst.
So awkward.
That's sometimes I even get nervous that, like, Jason's mom's going to listen to a podcast.
Yeah.
My mom can handle it, but I'm like, Jason's mom?
Same.
She's going to hate me?
You're going to hate me?
Yeah.
That's so, yeah, your mom watches?
Yeah, my mom, she's my best friend.
I mean, she knows way too much about me.
But my dad, I'm like, yeah, maybe we skipped that scene.
Yeah.
She's fast forward.
Yeah.
My dad skipped a few episodes of The Bachelor.
Yeah.
Wait, this question just came to me and it's from myself.
What would you do out of the limo if you were on The Bachelor?
See, I wouldn't do anything
I just be like Christina
I would just be one of the girls
Who just introduces herself and I mean
Depending on who The Bachelor was if there was something
That like you know they were like known for or liked
Like maybe like acknowledge that or like
Like say someone collected something like I would maybe give like a gift
But wouldn't you be nervous that everyone would give him that same gift?
Yeah see that's what I just like I've always thought about it
Like how many virgin jokes were on Colton's night one?
Oh my God right?
That was the one thing when he just
did my podcast. I did not say
the word virgin once. I did not ask
him about it. I'm like, you must be so
sick of every interview you do, everyone
just saying the same thing. Like, well, are you
still a virgin? Totally. It's just like, what
happened in the fantasy suites? I'm like,
we started talking football. I'm a huge Chargers
fan. There you go. And he was signed to the
Chargers before. Yeah. And so, like,
I opened up my show with five minutes of football talk.
And it just like... It probably got him in the right
mindset, too, to just like hang with you.
Yeah, they loved it. But, yeah,
I think I would just be
me and if that's not enough to stand out
and get a first impression rose then I might not be the girl
for you and you're like then I might leave myself
I might put a Demi oh no not Demi
who left Heather oh yeah
I said that I tweeted that that was such
a big dick energy move yeah like
never been kissed then she kisses them
and then she does to have been kissed and dumps him
I was like nice
Ashley Jenkins I'm going to end it with this
question because I like it I would love
to hear how she pushes through it all
she's been through so much but continues to be so
strong doesn't care what others think and that can be so hard for anyone but i can't imagine how hard
for someone always in the spotlight so my answer to this used to be weed and i would make jokes and
just be like you know whatever whenever something's bothering me like whatever just smoke a joint i don't
care but when i had to give that up for so long i had to find other ways to deal with it and that's
just being thankful for how blessed i am knowing how fortunate i am yeah and the fact that no matter
what i'm going through i have really thick skin i'm a very strong person
And the fact that I can be a public figure and put my life out there to help other people in their private lives, that just keeps me going.
Yeah.
Even if it's helping them be miserable on their couch, making fun of you, you're still helping them because you're entertaining them.
Exactly.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
They can vicariously live through me.
There you go.
I love that.
Well, thank you so much for being on the pod.
And tell everybody where they can find you.
Everything is at Sheena, S-C-H-E-A-N-A, and my podcast is called shenanigans, spelled with my name.
We do that every Tuesday, new episodes.
Amazing.
My song, better without you.
Whether you like it or not, it is available for download.
Or even if you're just curious, go download it.
Totally.
I'm like, well, thanks for listening.
Exactly.
That's how we'll end it.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks.
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