Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Showmance with Kevin McHale and Jenna Ushkowitz

Episode Date: June 27, 2019

Laugh along with Kaitlyn and Clio as they hang out with fellow PodcastOne hosts and former Glee stars, Kevin McHale and Jenna Ushkowitz! Find out how Kaitlyn and Clio first met in Vancouver a...s servers, and how similar the two pair's friendship dynamics are. And then join along in a spirited (see what I did there) game of Never have I ever! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:45 Spade and Sparrows. Yes. Right? Do you want the cabs up? Yes. What are you guys going to have? I'll have the cab. I'll have the cab.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I don't mean to toot my own horn but I really picked it out of good Where's the grapes from? They are from California Obs California Cab California Cab
Starting point is 00:03:06 Always Always a go-to for everybody And it's just so I'm not I'm not the pickiest wine drinker I really am I like nice wines But I'm not a picky
Starting point is 00:03:14 wine drinker But this one reminds me of like Am I going to say it This is cocky But prisoner wine Yes I love prisoner But I love that you said that you're not picky
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yet you had to try like a hundred wines Before you're you'll drink wine if it's in front of you But like for your wine like you better you know Can I read the back of these bottles? Where did I'm spade it? Wait you gotta hear this Jenna Okay Great legs full body and the wine's not bad either
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yes Thank you And sold out Yeah sold out yeah How good does that feel? It's one of the best feelings Like you know That way it like takes the stress away
Starting point is 00:03:52 I think that's a smart thing to do. Let's see where people are at. Let's see how this is going to go. Because if it wasn't doing well, then you know, oh, we got to do some more before this comes out. Kevin, we got to pre-sell everything we do from now on. Everything. I will say it's a good business move. It's a smart business move because, yeah, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And it's so scary because we've been working on it for like a year. And it's been a dream of mine for so long to have my own wine. It just, like, I drink wine on my podcast all the time. It just makes so much sense. So it was so scary to put it out there and wonder if people were going to be invested in the wine or if they're going to be like, nah. But you're probably the best gauge for it. It's like if you like it, then other people are going to like it.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's true. That's true. You'd hope, right? I would hope so. You hope. Yeah. That's it. Well, I really like Pinot Noir, but apparently that's for a more reserved palette. And I guess I have a reserved palette.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But I put it out to the, you know, off the vine listeners. And I was like, do you guys, would you like a Pinot Noir or a cab? And it was like cab by far. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think you'd make a Pino at some point? I'd do a reserve bottle. Not TBD. The estate, Kayland-B-Risto Estate.
Starting point is 00:04:59 You heard it here first. Yeah, it's all just in my mind right now. Well, so far, whatever's in your mind is working out. Yeah. And thanks for drinking it with me. Cheers. Cheers. Thanks for sharing it.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah, and I'm going to be watching your face when you drink it, so don't be like, ugh. Oh, it's like, good. Yeah. Give me a straw. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's just chucking.
Starting point is 00:05:21 get back. Do they even make straws in L.A. anymore? No. No, I carry around a steel straw everywhere. You do? You got it. It's looking low. Thanks. I can't see. I was pouring it because of obviously the cup. Well, you just tell us if you want. No, thank you. Yeah. I appreciate it. Metal straws.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah, metal straws. It's the way to go. I'll talk about myself now. What's up? No. Okay, Cleo, Caitlin. Yay! And Ramin and Spirit. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I totally should have brought him. It's okay. I do follow him. follow you, so it's fine. I can get him up on FaceTime if you want.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I mean, yeah. Are you going to be Star Trek with the dog? Yes. He is a celebrity. I love him. He's like a pup. I think you're excitement about him make me so excited about him. Right?
Starting point is 00:06:08 There's a story, too. There was such an amazing story to start off with, so then there's that connection. Yeah, like I didn't even know he was going to be my dog and I donated a bunch of money to his surgery because I felt so connected to him. I was like, I'm obsessed with this dog. I want to help save him. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's beautiful. I know. And then he looks at you. He's like, you saved me. And then you're like, you saved me. It works both ways, Mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We saved each other.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Well, let's talk about all the showmances first, if that's okay. Yeah. How did you guys meet? When did you become friends? We've been friends for a while, actually. Yeah, I know. We really need to nail down when that happened. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:45 People ask us, and I'm like, I don't know, because we had mutual friends. It's a hard thing to remember, isn't it? Yeah. It was like, I want to say. it was about 10 years ago and one of my best friends was one of Cleo's best friends and we just kind of all hung out in the same circle
Starting point is 00:07:00 and that's pretty much yeah I mean I remember one of my first memories of Caitlin is so Shana who's our mutual best friend so she would always have a boat cruise party at every August and then I remember the first time
Starting point is 00:07:17 I don't remember go on oh well all of a sudden And, like, we're all at the top, hanging out at the top of the boat. And then there's a song that comes on, and Caitlin, which she already looked. I'm like, this girl is like tomboy hat backwards. I'm like, this girl's so cool. And then she comes and starts doing a full-on wrap. And then what do you call it when you're, when you break dancing?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Oh, yeah. What? What? I should have been on glee. Yeah. She should have been on glee. Especially if you're bringing your own wine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's like two of the requirements, check. Yeah. But I don't think I talked to you that day because I'm like, oh my God, I'm like, I don't even know what I would talk to her about. I just come in, anywhere I go, it's just guns blazing. Like, I'm like, I'm a lot. I'm a lot. There's only one speed.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah, it's, yeah, it's fifth gear. Your hair is blowing back in the wind the whole time. That's great. Then you know what you get. Yeah, it's true. Oh, always fine. And then we went to Vegas together. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And that's when our friendship really took a turn. Yeah. Yeah. But really bonded. Yeah, Vegas will do it. You learn a lot of people when you travel. You know, there's a lot of people. They'll bring the best and worse.
Starting point is 00:08:21 The worst. Yes. So, for sure. The best. And now she is seeing definitely the worst and the best. But, you know. True friends. True friends.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah. And you just throw Caitlin's birthday party. Oh, yeah. We did a little bit of like a surprise birthday on Monday. So a couple days before. So we're like, she won't have any idea. Because you got to kind of throw them off a little bit. I don't usually get surprised off.
Starting point is 00:08:44 That was like maybe the second time anyone's ever tried to surprise me. And I love surprise. Yes. You do. Yeah. I love surprises. I got it. It's because we're Gemini's. I also love surprises. Yes. Oh my gosh, are you Gemini?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yes. My birthday was on Friday. Oh, my birthday. Oh, my birthday. Happy birthday. What's your birthday? What's your saying for you? I'm Aries.
Starting point is 00:09:05 June 14th. I'm a tourist Aries. I'm on the cusp. Well, you know, it's really interesting because almost all my best friends are Gemini's and you're a tourist Aries and you're Gemini. And look at us. Oh, that makes a solid friendship. Yes. I love a lot of cancers in my life too.
Starting point is 00:09:18 A perfect balance. Oh, it is a good balance Yes It's a good point Yeah Do you find that Like, oh wait You're Gemini
Starting point is 00:09:26 You have a double personality Not really No Do you? Do you think you It's like what you see It's what you get I feel like for y'all
Starting point is 00:09:34 I'm like God forbid I'm hungry or tired Then I got to the whole separate thing Oh But that's like a universal thing Yeah Then I'm like not today Satan Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:42 I'm the same way I kind of have two personalities Because I'm like But I think everybody does You know, you're either like, go, go, go, crazy. But I'm also like, yeah, I totally recharge. So I'm like, maybe that's what it is. I've also been told before that that can also be interpreted as it's someone who is good in multiple situations where you can sort of put on a new face where like we're fine.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, we're fine in whatever environment. That's how I like to interpret it. Yeah. Yeah, I can hang with anyone and look it right in. It's true. I totally fit in everywhere I go. Yeah. I totally come in hot.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I don't know about fitting in everywhere, though. Sometimes with people, like, that's too much. I think about high school, and I'm like, oh, never mind. Yeah. High school was a rough time for me. It was a low point. Didn't have many friends. All right, so I've been looking for ways to get more vegetables into my diet.
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Starting point is 00:11:24 for that matter. Dole fruit and veggie blends. Find them in your frozen aisle. You're both Canadian though, right? Yeah. But you didn't meet until after school. Right. 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Right. Both serving. Yeah. We were both servers. We worked in the same restaurant. No way. Yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah. It was kind of the thing in Vancouver to work at Cactus Club Cafe. Yeah. This is restaurant there. It's good. It teaches you how to hustle. It actually did.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I feel like it really set me up for social skills to me are so important. And I think that takes you really far. And Cactus kind of taught us like business-minded things. Like I really feel like they're a well-run business that happens to be a restaurant. But they really teach you the importance of social skills and like getting ahead that way. Totally multitasking. We actually, I was just telling Caitlin today, I thought she's going to be a server for life. I mean, you sugar-coded it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, no, no. It was like, because you know, like, it was your element. She was just so good. I did thrive. Yeah. Thrived in restaurants. Yeah. I know. I thrived in restaurants, too.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I was a bartender. Yeah. And I was like, oh, there are lifers here. Yeah. This is cray. Well, there's some people. I wish I could have seen you as a bartending summer or a serving summer. I mean, it was, I don't know what serving summer.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I mean, it was, I, I almost did kind of, like, I kind of was a lifer. I was in the restaurant biz for about. 14 years. And you were managing. Oh, wow. Yeah. Like that was, I started You were running a show. Yeah, those tips man, they'll suck you in. And you're like, why go to school or get a career? Yeah. So you did all you can do. Like you moved your way
Starting point is 00:12:59 all the way up. Yeah. And yes, I started managing. And then at one point Canadian, the Canadian minimum wage is like 1250 an hour. Plus you're making crazy tips. Like, I remember working in this one spot where I was pissed if I didn't live, wow, leave.
Starting point is 00:13:16 This wine, it'll get leave with $800 in tips. I was like, well, that was a shit shift. Damn it. Clearly, she's a way better server than you're like, well, that's amazing. 100 nights. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was this risk of crazy spot.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Anyway. For sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. See, there's something we don't know. It's like about 100 nights. A plane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 You guys wouldn't know it. Have you guys? It's a drinking place, Kevin. Wait, actually, good question. Have you guys been to Vancouver? I was just going to talk. Yes. He has.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I am not. You have not? No, just Toronto. I've been a couple times I know I'd like to go to Vancouver It's beautiful It is beautiful It's amazing
Starting point is 00:13:51 Were you there for work Yes Yeah okay What was what were you doing And I went there for the Olympics Oh I was there for the Olympics Yes Which was amazing and crazy
Starting point is 00:14:00 And that was like beautiful weather Yeah In February I'm better than talking about the weather Sorry No but it was weird But how about the June gloom in L.A Am I right?
Starting point is 00:14:10 No but actually It was no snow And it was for the winter Olympics So we're like Okay for once we're like Come on snow It was like the most joyous experience of my life. It was a really long time.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You love the Olympics, and it was so close to us. And then you have everybody marching to the streets at all hours of the day and night. Everyone high five. Yes. Like, wrapping their country. You could be walking down a street full of people and someone would just yell out, like, Canada! And I were like, yeah! Yeah, so true.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Like, Norway! Like, yeah! Sure, sometimes. Yeah, sure. And then, like, at some point I started stalking the Russians because, like, what's going on there? They did this party on the water. I'm like, you guys are crazy. They're crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah. It's like driving in like all these fancy cars. Drinking their vodka. Yeah, but it was amazing, amazing time. That was my introduction to Vancouver. Yeah. So you went for the Olympics? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 We somehow, I was, like, during Glee, I'm like, very smart. Can we like hoe ourselves out to get some, like, tickets? Totally. And we did. Yeah. And it worked. It was like me and a couple of the other guys. We got there and said the best time.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Wow. That's cool. Yeah. Then I went there for work a couple years ago. Oh, okay. Spent, like, a month there. Cool. Cleo, where do you live now?
Starting point is 00:15:18 It's still in Vancouver? Vancouver, yeah. Wow. So y'all are in like a long distance friendship. Yeah, we're a long distance. There's no direct flights from Vancouver to Nashville. Ugh. I'm like, it's,
Starting point is 00:15:28 California's far. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really is. It's far. Do you guys meet up here? Yeah, a lot. Yeah. I go home a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:34 We meet up here a lot. You've come to Nashville a few times. Yeah. We really go to a bunch of cities together. We're always somewhere. I feel like we're always in a different city. Always. Every time we see each other.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But it's fun because we've gotten to. We visit so many amazing places. And we travel really well together. That's important. Really, really well together. And we're really good. Drinkers. Drinker.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So are we? This is good. This is one of our best skills. We drink really well together. No, but we mean the car for five hours and we have like our whole thing. We put a little like chill music. And Caitlin will have a little nap. And then after we have a little podcast.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm that annoying friend on road trips. You're like, I'll see you later. No, but it's kind of a relaxing. We did that in Iceland, and I was, like, taking it all in. I was like, oh, if Caitlin could only see all of this. Wait, why didn't you wake me up? You're like, that's what you get for sleeping. You don't get to see the beautiful views, bitch.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Your fault. That's funny. It's two trips and one. You have your experience, then you have experience together. I did ever friend once that we went snowboarding, and I was driving home, and we had, like, You know, I had a couple of beers, so you get, like, tired. I wasn't driving drunk, but, like, you know, after a couple of hours, you're exhausted and we're in L.A. traffic. And she's like, I think I'm just going to go in the back and lay down.
Starting point is 00:16:56 She climbs over the passenger seat and lays down across the back of my car without being like, do you mind? I was like, oh, this is why we aren't friends anymore. Yeah, yep, that'll do she wet. I would do that to you, Jenner. You wouldn't. I know you would not. No. You'd be like, do I'm going to drive?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. Yeah, but Jenna's also great because she'll be like, I have this new podcast to listen to. Oh, you're going to love this. Let's do this. And then same thing, though, like, oh, we can just have some chill music now. So it's like a whole itinerary. There's always an itinerary. I don't have to think about anything.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I'm like, fantastic. That's our life, though. Yeah. That you guys sound like us. Yeah. I'll basically go, whatever Jenna says, like, I'll do. Wherever you want to go, I'll follow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You know how there's like double dates? I feel like we'd be such a good double date. Yeah. This is sort of like speed dating. Exactly. That's true. This is like the bachelor of friendships. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Who has ever speed dated before? Is that real? Nobody would love to. Well, where does that happen, though? Can we go? Yeah. I actually would be down to just see what the experience is like. Just to be like, maybe with a little hidden camera.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yes, absolutely. Is this a TV show? Yes. Oh, that's a good idea. Like a 2020, like behind the scenes are like, what really happens? That's just tender now. That's true. It's even speedier.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Damn it. It's the speediest. Yeah. Yeah. The most judgmental. Before we thought speed dating was bad. Right. You only have five minutes.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You're like, no, you only have 10 seconds. Impress me. Yeah, and I'm only judging a book by its cover. Literally. Like, oh, you had a bad day. No. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It's not sad. No. It's really crazy. Wait, and what if you swiped on your future forever? That's the thing. You know? You don't deserve that person. Just because that person doesn't know their best angles,
Starting point is 00:18:37 doesn't mean they may not be the love of your life. You know what? I actually would prefer a guy who doesn't know his best angles. It concerns me when guys know their best angles. Yes. That's very true. Swipe right on those. No, swipe left.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Left. I don't know. Yeah, we don't know those ones. Pass. I really like like a soft six in a guy. 100%. Yeah. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Yeah. Although, I don't know. You've got like an 11. I say that, but I've like only dated 10. I was like, really? We're like, hmm. Okay, here's what I'll say. It's the attention that counts.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. There's something intriguing about soft sixes. Had she ever tabled. Yeah, yes. If I were to travel, it would be in the soft six area. But for now, she'll keep it at a steady ten and a half a average. If it's steady 11. If it's going to be long term, I prefer a ten.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Because then maybe over time they'll become a six. Exactly. And then that's too much. Exactly. That's a good point. And then I'll really fall in love with them later. You just know the soft six is coming. I would be that asshole who swiped on my forever.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And because I was just We've all been there I'm confused I'm very confusing We've all done it I'm like well Oh my god That's amazing
Starting point is 00:19:53 So you're I mean I was talking to Kevin earlier About the Bachelor and the Bachelor and I was like Well Caitlin's like adult life Has been a lot of a
Starting point is 00:20:01 Just a showmance in general Right It's true Like The Bachelor is a showmands Yeah It's the wildest It is just a
Starting point is 00:20:10 You know It's speed dating and showmances And and everybody to watch. With the hidden camera, that's not so hidden. It's really, the opposite is quite in your face. Right there, right there. Yeah, you don't get used to it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 There's a lot of them. You really don't get used to those cameras. You don't, I feel like at some point maybe you're just like, screw it. Yeah, I think you get to that point. Like, towards the end, I was honestly like, what do you want me to say? I'll say it. I'm so tired. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like, I don't care about the cameras anymore. It's like, sure, yes. What do you need from me? I'll play your little game. Get me there, yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally. Funny story, actually. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Cleo, would you like to join the conversation? Cleo's just off texting. She's got business to attend to. I'm like, I'm about to tell a story about you. It's because Lo's on his way for the next podcast, so I needed to tell him where to go. Okay. Sorry about that. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I knew it was something important because you would have just messing with you. Could you imagine? She's just on it. She's just sending voice notes for a boyfriend. Thanks, Kaylyn and Cleo. But Cleo actually, I don't know if maybe this can be a confession for you, but Cleo actually was in the process to go on The Bachelor and made it quite far in the casting process before I even,
Starting point is 00:21:26 before we were even really tight. And the crazy, yeah, the crazy thing is that this was for, thank God, it was for Juan Pablo's season, but I didn't make it. So I made it the top 50 and they fight you to L.A., and then you go through the whole process. Yeah. And that's the one. That's a Canadian thing, by the way, process.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Process. Process. Process. I love it. Noted. But that's the season that that Caitlin applied for. Imagine? Could you imagine that we had both?
Starting point is 00:21:51 That's crazy. They would have made us be like so dramatic to each other. Oh yeah, the two girls from Vancouver. You guys were like, no, we're best friends. Don't try it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or we shouldn't have said anything and just like messed with them. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:23:41 At least on The Bachelor There's a lot of amazing women It seems like a lot of the girls become like lifelong friends And you know some you obviously don't But that's I always hated that term Like I'm not here to make friends I'm like I am
Starting point is 00:23:53 I did Actually one of my main reasons for coming in It's called networking Yeah It's a great jumping off point Yeah I was really into it Because you do meet a lot of solid girls Because I mean
Starting point is 00:24:07 The girls going on have personalities, they're fun they're a good time and yeah there's a couple that you don't like but that's life and I have made some serious solid friendships out of that show. Because to even get through the casting process you must have to like be some type
Starting point is 00:24:22 of person to like make it I'm sure is it like long and strenuous and oh yeah they I mean they really they take your blood they make sure you don't have SDDs they like they go career criminal records
Starting point is 00:24:37 So at least you know you're going into like a pool full of like All right people that have been checked out They've been checked out Yeah, we're all safe I think they definitely look for a couple Maybe crazy Yeah, of course
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, they're like, they just like don't look And they're like, I know you have a girlfriend But like that's okay Yeah, great It'll make people too know They like we welcome it Yeah They do
Starting point is 00:24:58 I always say I'm like to You know Now with social media and everything How are people still coming on the show With girlfriends? I know That's weird. Do you think you're going to get away with that?
Starting point is 00:25:10 I think maybe people do because they're just a little dim. Yeah. Well, like the whole thing with Jed. Like, it's like, I mean, he at least admitted that he was coming on for his news. Right. And that's where I don't, this is where I kind of don't fault him for this because he did come on with other intentions. Right. He admitted that.
Starting point is 00:25:29 He probably didn't expect to fall for Hannah. But so what if this is the girl that he, like, actually loves? Right. You know what? Whoops, fell in love. Do you think, though, he told her. at some point, like, if he is, because he seems like a front-runner at this point. He's definitely a front-runner.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, right? So, like, if they did end it together, do you think he probably told her, and, like, we don't know and the news, like, doesn't know that they've already figured this out, or do you think this has dropped on her? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. That's real. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah, I don't know. And, like, that could really f*** it up for her. Totally. In the end, like, just because what do you do after that? I know. I would hope he'd like. I had, I came on for my music, and I had a girlfriend. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Right. If he was smart, he would, but he did get ahead of it already by saying he was going on for music. But, I mean, I always say this. I was going on dates with a guy, one specifically before. He dropped me off at the airport to go on the show, you know? But I didn't worry about it coming out because we had a very honest conversation where I'm like, obviously things aren't pretty serious between us. Like, I'm going to go on the show and, like, if it doesn't work out, maybe I can call you. Like, I don't think that that's a terrible thing to, you know, you obviously aren't serious with that person. Right. Right. You wouldn't even consider it if you were actually serious.
Starting point is 00:26:38 People date multiple people all the time in real life. So, like, what makes that different? Yeah. You know. But here's a question. As the Bachelorette, you feel a little bit, like, you're putting yourself out there. So what if you had found out that someone that you really liked had a girlfriend for going on? Yeah, I would be disappointed for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Because I feel like, I think, I think obviously from the outside, you're like, oh, yeah, like, that's kind of normal because I would think that too. But I think when you're in that situation, you feel so vulnerable and you're just like. You want people to think. And you probably want people to think, like, you're here for me, you know, that romantic feel. Well, yeah, and, like, there's also cameras on you and optics, and people are judging you left and right for an entire season. And I imagine it has to be hard to gauge whether or not what's going on is genuine between you and someone else. And so on top of that, when there's that behind it, you're like, okay, well, thank you for nothing. That's kind of part of, like, why, for me personally, when I was exploring all different relationships,
Starting point is 00:27:36 I'm like, yeah, there's one that I specifically, like, really am into, and I hope he's the one at the end, but you don't know how it's going to go. But what if he has a girlfriend at all? You know, like, so I'm going to really get to know all these guys and make sure I like, you know. Cover your bases. Yeah, cover my bases to make sure I'm like really sure. Because none of your guys ended up having a girlfriend, right? Nope, but, but I mean, think about this, we had two bachelorets.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yes. One of my top four voted for her, the other one. That's right. So it's like, ouch. That one, that kind of. Jared. Jared voted for Brit, and I never let him live it down. Still to the day, he like, he, like, text, him and Tanner, like, text me or something, I did an Instagram, so I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And it was, like, complimenting me, like, Kaelan was our favorite season. I'm like, you voted for Brent. I will never forget it. Yeah, yeah. People don't forget. That's crazy. Sorry, I'm hot. It's hot in here.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I was actually wondering, because I was, I was thinking, like, oh, is that the look? I know. Because you had it on for a while, but... It is kind of a vibe. It is kind of a vibe. You really have to choose to do that. It's like the fanny pack. But the wine's really heating me up.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I know. It's heating me up, too. I just took off my jacket. I guess I have, like, one last question about the backdrop, and we could stop talking about it. But, like, at what point... Well, I guess I have two questions. You know, I'd make it three.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I've got a ton. Like, we've got an hour. At what point did you believe that it was actually... going could work like was it it was on the bachelor it was on chris yes right yeah because going on the bachelor i i mean i was a viewer of the show so i was always like there's no freaking way you actually like you know this can't be i was always the girl that was like why are they crying on night one like the skeptic and then i got on night one and i was like i get it i love him i totally get it um so it's like i get it at emotions are high
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah, I mean, there's so much that goes into you getting to that point, and then you, like, don't want to go home night one. And they really hype up their leads. Like, they make you think that they're the, you know, God's gift to the universe. Right. And so you really just believe you're, like, in love with this person. But what was your question? I totally lost track. Like, when did you?
Starting point is 00:29:53 Oh, yeah, yeah. So it was basically by the end of The Bachelor where I was like, no, I could actually see this working for me with him. I mean, then fast forward to three days out of it. you get out of the bubble and you talk to your family and friends and you're like, oh, okay, maybe that wasn't the guy for me. But I believed in the process because I saw that you could have genuine feelings and real emotions. So, yeah, it was on The Bachelor.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm like, look at Meatball right now. I'm sorry, I can't stop staring at this dog. The cutest. Well, like, ramen and Meatball sitting next to each other? How cute that would be? I know, and I really, because I planned on bringing ramen to hang out with Meatball. But, like, ramen and Meatball? Are you kidding?
Starting point is 00:30:34 It's so good. It's a buffet. It's a buffet. It's a buffet. But because Raman was such a bad boy last time. We pooped. That's fine. I didn't want him to be doing that again.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Gosh, and then showing meatball bad behavior, you know. Are we going to play a game? Let's do it. Yeah. Are we going to spin the cork? No, we're going to play. We have to do our confessions, too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Oh, yeah. I don't know why I'm so willing to share my confessions. Let's play the game first. I was just going to say, I feel like you have a really good one. No, I really don't. I just, like, I have never had homework for a podcast before, and I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, it is fun. And, like, me, I'm, like, writing a list of, like, oh.
Starting point is 00:31:12 She called me to be like, okay. Which one? Yeah, she's like, I have a couple. I'm not sure which one. I'm like, oh, my God. That's so much. Yeah. No, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It's great. Okay. So is everybody replenished on a spade and sparrows wine? A plane of drinking game. You're so good at giving me shameless plugs? No. Because that's all about. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Just like, let's go for it. We brought it to the restaurant last night. We're like, we will pay the corking fee. Yes. We need to drink my wine here. On your birthday, absolutely. Yeah. 100,000%.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah, thanks. Okay. We're playing a friendly game of Never Have I Ever. Always down first. Never have I ever. So reminder, I always forget. You drink if you have done it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Okay. Okay. Go, Kevin. You start with this one. The first one. Okay. Yeah. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah. Never have. Have I ever gone skinny dipping? Oh, millions of drinks. We're all drinking. I love it. I went skinny dipping on national television, okay? The only time I've ever done it is with you, Caitlin, last summer in Kelowna.
Starting point is 00:32:14 We are so cute. Can I tell you, can we say with him? I didn't make it. I didn't go. Kevin is so boring. Can I say who? Yes, yeah. You have to.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I went skinny dipping with a couple of the vampire diaries cast and Lucy Lawless, Zina Warrior Princess. Oh, wow. In the Mediterranean Sea. What? In Monaco? You win. No, but I was so drunk that I was trying to round up more people to go than the biggest advocate.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And we missed it. And I missed it because, you know, I'm like, oh, I love their song. And I stayed on the dance floor. And split your pants. I could see that. I could see that. And then I could an hour later, you know, because time gets fuzzy. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, we got to go.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And they're already back at the hotel. Everybody, they showered up. Yeah, we were sandy. We're a shower. Hey, for our devil dated, I think we need to go dancing. Absolutely. I can tell you be a good dancer. Do it.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Oh, yeah. I love it. Let's go. Let's go. As long as ramen can come. Okay. So, yes, we have skinny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It's one of my favorite pastimes. This one's kind of boring, but Kevin made me do it. Never have I ever cried at a Pixar movie. Okay. Oh. Up. Oh, a toy story. Cried a toy story.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Coco. I cried at Coco. Oh, Coco. Obviously. I watched that on a plane. No. You got to see that one. Cleo was born in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I always tell people that. It's Mexican? Yeah, right? Oh, no way. You'd love it. This weekend. I know I would love it. I went on a plane and it was a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You can't do that on a plane. It was a bad idea. I watched Marley and me on a plane. I did too. Horrible. What is wrong with you do, I don't know. I don't know. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:33:53 The girl next week was watching it too. We didn't know each other, but we both had our blankets over our heads because we were just sobbing. No. You know the movie The Impossible about the movie. tsunami. Have you seen it? Oh, yeah. I haven't seen it, but.
Starting point is 00:34:04 It's the most devastating. I have never, like, ugly cried before in a movie theater, and I fall on ugly cried. I got on a plane at 9 in the morning, and this dude next to me brought it. It's like, I had to watch a movie. He put that on? Casually pulls up the impossible. You're like, dude, don't.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And I live tweeted the whole thing. I'm like, this guy's out of his mind. Oh, that's smart. It has no idea what he's getting something to. I couldn't hear it, and I was watching it, and I was still sobbing. You're like, I know what's coming? You're bringing back the memory. You can't set yourself up on a plane
Starting point is 00:34:32 automatically more sensitive to coming. It's like when you're hungover and you watch sad movies. Or I swear it's like when you know you're not supposed to do something that's when it happens. Like you're like, I don't want to humiliate myself and cry and sob ugly cry on a plane
Starting point is 00:34:44 and then you're like, oh, Marley and me, that looks like a good movie. Perfect. Wow. I know. I watch a lot of sad movies on planes. I don't know. Of course.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I did like the Cove. Yeah. For me, I think it's called Me and After. You know what the one where he's, He's in a wheelchair? Yes. And then they fall in love. Amelia Clark?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yes. Oh, that's... For James... James McAvoy? Nope. Nope. But you know which one I'm doing, right? I know exactly what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:35:14 You know what I'm going to cry. She's the girl from... After you... Me before you. Me before you. Yes. There you. She's from...
Starting point is 00:35:23 I have the... Game of us. Yes. Yes. Yes. C'm sorry. Oh, my God. No, Dineris.
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Starting point is 00:38:08 race therapy never have I ever lied to get a job every job drinking drinking so many jobs every job right honestly the question to be never have I ever been not lied to get a right exactly exactly like a triple negative wait now I'm trying to think of like the biggest lie I've ever told to get a job. I did say I didn't get the job, so does it count? I mean, you try. I used to do auditions for
Starting point is 00:38:34 commercials and stuff, and I said that I could, like, ride a horse and play guitar. Kevin lied to play a bicycle to ride a bicycle. I was terrible at riding bikes. I could barely do it. And I was like, sure, I could do it. And then you got a roll? And I got a commercial, and the whole thing was riding a bike one-handed, and then throwing out newspapers
Starting point is 00:38:49 was like, I am so screwed. And did you do it? I did it. Did you practice? And then they quickly realized like, oh, he's not very good. So then they built a platform to put me on it to fake it. Ha ha! You still got it, though. Yep. Yeah. And that is why you fake it till you make it. Exactly. They were regretting that decision, but... Whatever. It's like Joey. It's like Joey from friends when he lies on his resume
Starting point is 00:39:09 about all the things that he did. And like with his foreskin and the putty. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then it falls off in the audition. He's like, olive love. Nope. Nope. Nope. It's more like a rap. Never have I ever re-gifted something that was gifted to me. I'm the biggest re-gifted. gift you're in all the land. We drink, right? But you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:28 I think it's great because you're not letting something go to waste. Exactly. Right. And you're not going to use it. Yeah. Plus, I mean, we all know from social media. You get gifts sent to you all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And then I'm like, I started a gift closet so that I can just re-gift things to people because they're good gifts. They're good stuff. That's the same. I feel like Martha Stewart must have a gift closet. Oh, yeah. She has a gift house.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Oh, yeah. A factory. Yeah. Okay, fine. Warehouse. She's got a gift mansion. Yeah. Never have I ever dropped my phone into the toilet.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I have. You know what? I don't think I have. Oh. Oh, I don't have. Yeah. Really? That's just asking for garbage.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You know what's crazy is who I'm trying to think of who this was. Somebody that I had on my podcast, his wife dropped her phone in a porta potty. I would just leave it. No, yeah. She did. Yeah. She did. And they called her and found it.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Like whoever cleaned, I don't know what people. You know what? And she got it back. No. They said, yes. No. Good for them. I don't want it back.
Starting point is 00:40:35 No, but good for that. I think that's what she said. I don't think she was, I think she was like, I'm not taking it back. You know what happens? You leave a phone on the plane for five minutes when you get off and you're like, oh, I got to go back. I left my phone. You're like, it's gone. We never found it.
Starting point is 00:40:47 All the time. But yet you drop it into a public porta potty and they get that bitch out. Yep. Yep. I was, you know what? Delta, I got so mad. I'm a religious Delta Flyer. Me too.
Starting point is 00:40:57 The diamond medallion member. I'm into it. But I left my favorite hat in the world on their plane. And my beats headphones. God. It's the hardest thing to get any kind of loss and found from Delta. Like, hey, Delta. A laptop, a MacBook Air on tour, gone.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Just gone. They're like, you'll have to go to the airport that you landed. And I was like, okay. Well, that's not happening. No, that's too much real. Let's not get crazy. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Never have I ever been kicked out of a bar. Drink. I drink. I got kicked out of a bar once. It was a brothel in Germany for giving a stripper the middle finger because she wouldn't let me on her pole. Bye. Yeah. See later.
Starting point is 00:41:45 That's a beautiful story. You got kicked out of a bar? I did. It's a confession and a kid. Yes. Just for being a bit too drunk. I mean, you know, aren't we... Kevin?
Starting point is 00:41:54 It does not happen to you. No, sir. That was the only time. Yeah. You don't get too drunk. I think I was, like in my defense, I think I was tired too. Oh, yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:42:02 When they see you sleeping a little bit. Oh, yeah, they don't like, oh, no, no, no. So they're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, yeah, so you know, when you really try to prove to them. Oh, yes. And then it makes it even worse. Yeah, and as I was doing it, I was like, I really seem way more drunk than I am, but I guess I must have.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I wasn't let into a bar In Germany Berlin because they thought we were too drunk To get in which we weren't And they made me and my friends Walk like a DUI line And walk a straight line Oh they were just bored
Starting point is 00:42:34 They didn't hate Americans Oh Fair Yeah that's I'm Canadian so The only time I was kicked out of a bar Was with you Yeah you were I was I really sloppy
Starting point is 00:42:45 I was also underage We were all very sloppy And New York at the Mercer Oh So the sub-mercer and there's two under 21 year olds there. I didn't get led into the submerser.
Starting point is 00:42:56 This was the next night. We had our first like up fronts in New York and it was after we had done all the works that we were supposed to do. And this was the night that we didn't make it back to L.A. We missed our fight. But like you, in solidarity, you came with me back to the hotel, I think.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I did? I think so. Oh my good friend. Maybe, I don't know. I was. I was a little borderline blackout. Yeah, yeah. But like some of you came back with me
Starting point is 00:43:20 in solidarity. That's all I know. But I was the reason we got kicked out. Was that the night we posed for paparazzi? Yeah. It was the W. Times Square and there were all these paparazzi because there's like all the talent stayed there. So it wasn't us. But they were like, you guys, when you get out of the car, just keep walking. Because we were plastered. Yeah. And we got out and Kevin and I like
Starting point is 00:43:40 post. We stopped and post. Full on like just red carpet. This is for us. I love it. That's awesome. Well, now I need to see the photos. I'm sure that they're out there. I don't even. I don't think I've seen them. They were like, these are shit. Forget it. That's so moving on.
Starting point is 00:43:54 We are not posting these online. Never have I ever... Oh, it's your turn. Oh, never have ever gotten a tattoo I regret. All of mine. I'm just kidding. I do have tear drops tattooed on my fingers because I thought it was funny when you do this. Oh, that is pretty funny, though.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Thanks. And that's better than having it on your face. And then I have my ex... My ex's initials on my... Oh, shit. But it kind of works out now. because his name and I actually
Starting point is 00:44:24 really like him, I'll say his name, Justin Keller. So I got JK tattooed on my foot but then my best friend her name was Jess Knutson. Great. Then it worked but then she got married but now I'm dating Jason, so it's like Jason and Caitlin and just the gift that keeps on it. I feel like that tattoo is meant to be. Yeah, so you almost like
Starting point is 00:44:40 branded yourself to only have relationships with Jay and Keyes. With Jay and Key. Yeah. Fair. There you go. I have a few. Okay. but tell me your one that I which one Kevin is it on your lower back?
Starting point is 00:44:55 No it's not on my lower back it's on my ankle but in my defense it came I got this tattoo before it became super popular okay she got a unicorn yolo wait I actually love it on my ankle it's still there yeah and then the Drake song
Starting point is 00:45:12 came out like a month later and everyone said yellow and I was like oh no I kind of like that I kind of like Next time you see Caitlin She'll have Yolo on her back A tramp stamp of Yolo
Starting point is 00:45:26 I just think of the Lonely Island song Oh yeah Yes I mean I guess I don't regret it Just because it's a good story Yeah But like
Starting point is 00:45:36 They're all stories Like they're all stories Kind of like to point it out though He's like remember that when you got that tattoo Is it big? No it's tiny It's really small It's on her like ankle
Starting point is 00:45:47 Do you want me to go get a year? yellow tattoo to make you feel better because I'm kind of into it I saw your reaction I was like I think Caitlin's gonna get one you know what send me a picture of your foot I'll go get that one I'm back in Nashville beans right here I this is so me okay I will like I always do tattoos I'm like I'm gonna do it do it do it I will because once you have one like whatever you're already doing it even though Jason was like I think you're done and I was like I'm probably not I was like so my pirate idea of a sleeve is Not a whole of you. But I'm trying to think the last one I just got recently.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Oh, I got a rose tattooed on my arm when I was like, I was like, I never want to see a rose for the rest of my life. And then I was like, one day I was like, that'd be funny if I got a rose because I like hate them. And now I love it. It's a great tattoo. It's a good rose. That's a really nice tattoo. And then I got a spade because spade and sparrows and I have the birds on the rose. Oh. Well, that's good, though.
Starting point is 00:46:45 That's good. It was funny, though, because at one point we were thinking about changing the name. name and then I was like you can't I already got it tattooed on me yeah yeah it's too late can you imagine no no no
Starting point is 00:46:55 thank God it sold out yeah did you guys hear that it's sold out sold out yeah yeah I weren't even getting a cut but I love promoting it Kevin we're getting lifetime memories oh yeah you're right yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:47:07 lifetime memories lifetime memories and you know it all send you bottles yes that tattoo is that a great feeling that you can say that.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yeah. Like, I'll send you bottles of my wine. It's the best feeling. I swear to God, I've been like, my whole life, I think if you ask me, what would be your dream job? I would say to have my own wine and my own talk show, which is kind of a podcast. It is a podcast. And so here we are.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Hello. Life is good. Do you like Oprah? You'll get a bottle. Yeah. And I'm like, high school education. Yeah, but you're Canadian. You guys are way cooler than all of us.
Starting point is 00:47:46 You guys are Canadian. They're nicer. When you're Canadian, your options are you either go on a reality show and make a business out of it or you go to the oil industry. Oh. Right. Oh, it's like being from Texas. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Are you from Texas? Yeah. And you're healthcare. You are? Yeah. Oh, you don't have an accent at all. Thank you. You've been working on it.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah. There you go. Everyone's, he says my name, like, with a Texas accent. Well, okay. Gina. Gina. Gina. How do you say it?
Starting point is 00:48:11 I say things that are for like, um, that Steve's laughing. Gina. I didn't know this. until like a couple years ago which is really mind-boggling what but like anything i say like the number 10 yeah tin i say 10 oh like or like pen and pen okay like everything is just like pin 10 jena that makes sense yeah okay that's fine it's okay everyone makes me i didn't know that you said them differently i didn't know that was a thing i mean we say a lot of things you know keep some of your roots yeah i don't know i love accent well my whole family's from new england so i was the only born in texas
Starting point is 00:48:48 And that's the only thing that I have that... I don't know. Timmy's got a hard... Oh, yeah. No, my older siblings do have, like, accents. Really? They were all born in Connecticut. Do you think we have Canadian accents? Some words. A little bit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:59 A little bit. That's cool. Yeah. Process. But like... Process. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Hang on to those, though.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah. Wait, did I already say sorry? No. Oh, that's so funny because everyone always... You do. Oh, you always say sorry. It's like, wait, did I already say without even realizing it? You're so cute.
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Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah. That's public. Oh, airplane. Yeah. I thought it was so cool. Was it a private plane? No, no. No.
Starting point is 00:50:25 You got to fly on private. You did that too? No, not airplane. Tented event. I do. Huh? What event? It's an outside, it's an outside event.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Oh, a tinted event. Like a tented outside of that. Oh, I thought you said tinted. Tinted. It's not just me. A tented event. Oh, get it. What?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Like, how did you hide that? It was like, there was like a small hill right outside the tent. A small hill right outside the tent. And like, it was like a little dark and there was some shadows. So like we went over there. Nice. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:50:59 You know. Was it like a rush? People could be. Like like 500, 600 people could be. Like 500 people, a person event. So it was, yeah. Someone could have definitely walked in. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Well, you know. You need to be in that situation.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah, yeah. You do what you've got to do. It's true. Kevin? I have a couple places. Okay. In a public bathroom. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah. Like by a public pool, I'm disgusting. Yeah, that's good. Totally sanitary. The water gets me going. Totally. Fluorine, totally just killed all bacteria. Everyone's clean.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Let's go for it. Totally. On a ferry. No pun intended. In the bathroom? In the bathroom on a ferry. Oh, you do have something with water. I don't know you're right
Starting point is 00:51:47 there's a theme here skinny dipping yeah oh there's a theme I love the water I love the water there's something about it don't get me next to an ocean let me tell you
Starting point is 00:51:57 that's funny yeah I think like nothing oh nothing too crazy I would just like in the car yeah oh the car yes a car yes nothing too crazy
Starting point is 00:52:13 yeah I've done car too that's good that's good that's good I don't think I've done a car. Really? Oh, yeah. I mean, you know what's crazy? Go get a tattoo and then go do it in a car. I think I get pigeonholed as this like wild child crazy, like sexual human being all the time.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Thanks, ABC. So when I tell people I'm quite vanilla in the bedroom, they're like, what? I'm like, yeah, totally boring. Heard of starfish, that's me. Kevin just posted a photo of him skydiving. and he's starfish, like, he's starfish, like, the way down, and he posted, it was like, full starfish. Nobody got it. And I was like, nobody got it.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So good. Everyone's like, oh, how crazy! I'm like, no. Get it. Starfish. Get there faster. Yes. I like it.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I like it. So going off of that, should we do our confession? Yeah. I just want to, you know, I'm trying to make sure that we all get our stuff in, you know? Yeah, this is a shared show. I love a, it's a mash-up show. I like it. It's good.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It's a, it's a mashup. You just said that and I stole your line. It's fine. Okay. We are the same. We're the same. I was trying to steal your thunder. It's shared.
Starting point is 00:53:28 It's shared thunder. Shared thunder. Yes, exactly. Well, did you already kind of confess. Yes, I'm good. You're like, I'm out. She's like, good to go. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:53:36 You also confessed about so many things. Yeah. The stripper pole. Oh, right, right, right. The stripper pole. And the airplane bathroom and all of the things. I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:53:45 confessed. We have all confessed. Let's be honest here. But give me one more. Yeah. Give me one where you're like pretty ashamed of it. Like I haven't heard yours. I haven't heard yours yet.
Starting point is 00:53:56 So yeah. Okay. This was the first thing that popped into my head because it is like a great shame. Okay. At 16 years old, I wet the bed. Oh. Kevin. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:54:13 What? That's your confession. I had wet my bed like two weeks ago. No. When you were, hold on, like, in the throes of puberty. Yeah. Like, I got up, I like, I woke up, I'm like, what the hell? And I, like, looked around and I'm like, what do I do?
Starting point is 00:54:31 And I went to my parents' bedroom. Like, I was three years old. Yeah. And it was like, I was like, mom. She's like, what? It was in the middle of the night. I was like, I f*** wet the bed. And I just hear my dad roll over and go, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And they get up and do the parents, like, they get up and change the bed. I'm like, okay, now this is funny. Yeah. I'm like, what, but within this, there's, it's a two-parter. Okay. So within the same year, over Christmas, we all, like, flew back, because we were, like, a lot of us were living in L.A. at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Flew back to Texas to be with the family for Christmas. And we all got the norovirus, you know, which, like, the crazy 24-hour, yeah. Vomiting. Yeah. diarrhea everywhere. So we all got it, right? So I go to the bathroom, not sure in which end it's going to come out of.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yeah, the worst. Both. Well, I'm an idiot. Yeah, again, 16. 16 was a rough time. Yeah, that's so rough. I've been down to vomit over the toilet, but it comes out of both simultaneously. And then again, I'm like, Dad! No, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And he comes in and doesn't say a word, and it's just like, okay. And, like, helps me. Wait, your parents are the parents are the best. Yes, but it was, like, a teenager where everything's embarrassing. You're like, you're like, you're like, help. I was just like, this is the worst thing ever. Help. Yes, but it's that instinctual thing of, like, being a baby.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Right. All of a sudden, I'm like, who else do I go to? I go back into my childlike self when I'm sick. Yeah. Yeah. We all do. My mom's, like, a cold washcloth on my head and, like, that's exactly. I was sick, like, a week ago, and my mom was like,
Starting point is 00:56:10 do you want me to fly there and get you a cold water? She was like, yes. I do. And then she probably didn't. Aw. Leslie. Why no? What the hell, man?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Come on, Jenna. What you got? All right. Fine. I'll do the one you think because the funniest. Yeah, yeah, I do that one. This is why I have wine on my podcast because I get everybody all loosey goose. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And then you tell me the good. It's smart. We don't need it, but it helps. It helps. It helps soften the blow. Right. Let's help you up here. God, no.
Starting point is 00:56:40 All right. That's good. You put your glass out. We did a bottle. The bottle's empty. You did a glass out and said, no. You're like, no, thank you. I can't.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Guys, the poor of us are going out. We're going dancing. We're going dancing. Okay. So, a couple of years ago. It's recent. No, it's not. No, it's more recent than 16.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In my 20s. Okay. I was, like, starting to work out a lot. So I got a trainer at the gym at Equinox. I was like, we're excited about it. It was like the fancy and I was on my way and I had just started taking pre-workout drinks Which like jacked at the time was good.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's been like banned by the FDA now and like it's no bueno but I I drank it and it's a diuretic It basically is like coffee. It makes you got to like got to go. Yeah, yeah. So I was on the way to the gym and I'm pretty close to the gym, right? I'm about to turn into the parking garage and I'm like, oh, I can. guess I have to fart. Uh-oh, don't ever trust a fart.
Starting point is 00:57:46 No. And I sharded. Yeah. Yeah. In my gym clothes. Yeah. There's no coverage there. You can't cancel.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Like, Equinox is like a strict 24-hour canceling. Like, it just can't do it. It ain't cheap. You'd rather go in with food your pants than pay that fee. Throw this like, you know, $200 away. So I like run, take this like old sweatshirt that I was going to donate over my, around my waist. I run into the.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I hope you donated at store. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I went to the store, bought a pair of pants, like, lied to my train. I was like, sorry, there was so much traffic. There was an accident. And your pants. Yeah. And I'd go in and, like, change my pants.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And then, like, I threw out the pants in the garbage and, like, went about my workout. And that was, you know, the first time I'd ever sharded in my pants before. Oh, welcome. Have you ever snarded? A sneeze fart? I mean, no, not sneeze fart, poop. Sneeze fart. No, I haven't.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Somebody confessed that to me the other day on a podcast. I probably have. Yeah. We had, when we were on Broadway, when I was on Broadway and Spring Awakening, there's like this really, really quiet moment between the two lead characters. And we were just, we're all on stage sitting there and watching them. It's a bonus confession. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:59 No, no, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. And there was a man in one of the first, like, couple of rows that in the most silent, the silent part of the show went. And I'm not kidding. We are 18-year-olds on stage on Broadway, and we were like, and everybody's like staring at you're like to keep it together. And our shoulders start to shake, and everybody just like loses it.
Starting point is 00:59:25 And then the audience catches on. It was horrible. It was like, that poor man. He probably like, that haunts his dreams for the rest of the time. And like, imagine you were sitting next to him in the audience. You're like, one two combo knees and a fart
Starting point is 00:59:41 you'll one two punch it you never know that's going to be me it already is I hope it is I hope it is anyway that's so funny
Starting point is 00:59:49 okay well I'll give one that's just kind of funny that I thought of from the other night is I had the birthday party the surprise birthday party this is kind of just
Starting point is 00:59:57 this is embarrassing but it's not like anything poop related so not that embarrassing but we, Cleo got me a cake and she lit all of the candles and everybody's watching and everyone's
Starting point is 01:00:10 taking Instagram videos because that's what you do when the cake comes out and I was like and I was like what the hell's happening and then I go like that. That wasn't a fart noise by the way that was just my mouth blowing and then I went again and I was like no boyfriends let's try it again like not even one candle and I'm like blowing as hard as I can
Starting point is 01:00:31 and not the candles are going out and I'm like what is that me? Third time I go again, I'm like, and it's because I had gotten so much freaking Botox in my upper lip that all of my muscles were numb, and I couldn't purse my lips because of the Botox, and none of my cattle, and everyone's like, what's happening in there? I was like, I have to own it because, like, why would no air be coming out of my mouth? So I was like, whew!
Starting point is 01:01:08 And I just got it. And so everybody had to join in and do it for me. Because I couldn't get it. And I was like, you know what? I got too much bow dogs in my upper lip. This is my... Do you think that I had those trick candles? Yeah, I was like...
Starting point is 01:01:21 Wait a second. Yeah. I was like, what? And then I was blowing on my hand, like, is no air coming out. I was like, oh, no. Am I alive? And not dead. It's not even your fault.
Starting point is 01:01:31 There was a surprise birthday party. You didn't know. I'm so I'm so embarrassed Yeah I would have said No candles place
Starting point is 01:01:39 That's so good I'm really glad that one landed No time I'll do sparklers Yeah Just to be safe Yeah just Let me be on the safe side
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah Way long enough Have a really slow birthday song And then Let it go out Because it's not And it's not
Starting point is 01:01:55 It's not Elizabeth's fault I literally was like I need this lip Resting so far Over this gummy smile Like just You know
Starting point is 01:02:02 I'm a pin cushion stick it in I didn't know you could do that Yeah I didn't either But it's a new thing called the lip flip And I'm really into it And I might have I might have asked for too much
Starting point is 01:02:14 Wait so the lip flip it goes It just does the top And instead of getting injections in your lips You just get a lottox above And it just relaxes And it just makes yeah Steve next time you see me Just that lip's gonna be flipped
Starting point is 01:02:28 Just make sure it's not around your birthday YOLO YOLO. YOLO. That was beautiful. Guys, I think this joint episode totally worked. It totally did. Did you not think it was going to?
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yeah, were you concerned? No, I was not concerned. I'm just saying, well done, us. Oh, okay, that's fine. Tusha, sir. There's like a little negativity in there. I wasn't sure. No, cheers.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I wonder how many cheers is we do in one episode. Just the first bait and sparrow, you know, that you're having your podcast. You got a cheers? Yes. We went to a whole bottle. That's great. I'm impressed. Sold out.
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