Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Unapologetically Adjusting with Michelle Young (Pt 2)

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

KB and Michelle are back in your ear holes for part two of their conversation. In this Grape Therapy sesh, they’re talking all about navigating social media, going through a breakup in the public eye, and what is most important during our time here on this floating rock. Michelle explains why her theme in life right now is captured by the phrase “unapologetically adjust,” including what these words mean to her and why she encourages everyone out there listening to trust their gut alongside her. The two also get into all the incredible moves Michelle is making with her new website, michelleyoungofficial.com and her MY Impact initiative, which allows all those interacting with social media to actually make a difference. Michelle shares what initiatives she’s most passionate about currently and how you can make an impact just by following along. Plus, we get a Row-mance Roundup all about Mr. “Shacklecross’s” season! Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: PELOTON - You can try Peloton Row risk free with a 30 Day Home Trial. See additional terms at onepeloton.com/home-trial PROGRESSIVE - Quote at Progressive.com to join the ov er 29 million drivers who trust Progressive See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Resuming my combo with Michelle. Meow. Okay, I know you're probably going to tell me to move on, but like... Spring it to me. And you can tell me to move on, and we don't have to talk about it. But I just saw something recently about Nate, obviously your ex, posting with your best friend. And again, people are going nuts. What is, is there like some mutual understanding between you guys or is it like bad blood?

Like what is the story there? Yeah. Like I said before is, I've done a lot of reflecting of who I want to be, what I want to do in my time here. This sounds so deep. What I want to do in my time here on earth. No, but really though. On the floating rock, I love it. But really, though, I.

I know exactly I have goals that I want to achieve I have these different things of what type of person I want to be what I want to put my energy in who I am and what I'm willing to allow into that space and my biggest thing before new year's resolutions before any of that a while ago and back in September my theme became unableness unapologetically adjusting those two words unapologetically adjusting and what that means to me is that I'm only allowing people in my space who bring positivity who lift me up who support me when you're with me and you support me when you're not with me who have goals themselves and who set out to not prove that they're a good person but show that they're constantly trying to improve who they are. Not prove, but improve who they are. Right. And so I've unapologetically adjusted in many aspects of my life. And those adjustments were made significantly before any internet frenzy and what I can say is that I and anyone else listening to this deserves to

adjust with who they have in their life who they let into their space who they give their energy to who life's too short to put up with bullshit to put up with negativity to be take like you know what I mean to be brought down life's way too short to do any of that stuff and frankly that's not going to help me get to my goals that's not going to help you get to your goals and so i adjusted before the internet saw anything and is it something where you know it it causes maybe a few seconds of turmoil yeah but then at the end of the day i remind myself that I know why I adjusted. I adjusted for a reason.

And truly, like, I will stand by that. And I really will. And like I said, it's all about unapologetically adjusting. I know what I want to do with my life. And I'm going to surround myself with the people who are going to lift me up and who are going to get me there. And I'm going to lift them up to get to their, like for them to get to their goals, period. That's it.

Yeah. I feel like you're the kind of person. that, and I can say this because I know you, like, I came out of this Hoffman journey where it was like all this like work on yourself. Right. And they say, you know, don't be a Hoffman pusher and don't push people to change

and don't be the pattern police saying like, you're doing this and I learned this and I am like, almost like superior. You're like, I just want to be the light so that people are encouraged by me to make their own changes. So to adjust to unapologizing, you're going to do that authentically yourself just by like going through life the way that

you would and other people will see that in you and you're not doing it to prove anything you're doing it because that's who you are and that will encourage people to do that on their own too and if they're not going to you know people see through that shit so easily and just like honestly when it comes down to it one misery loves company i'll say that yeah but and then that goes for everybody right it really does but too you trust your gut trust your gut and like sometimes you might not have the words or the phrase or the um evidence right then and there but trust your gut and if you feel like you need to readjust unapologetically readjust and that's the thing is that that's what i'm just like i get so tired of is that of course we have these

moments in our lives where we're just we make mistakes right we we we waver from who we are we right and then you reflect and then you adjust and it's it's the same thing which is honestly i mean i'll bring it up myself just the whole breakup with with everything within my last relationship i i kept it to myself i chose not to speak on it i chose to not be a part of it because i I wanted to truly release the power of the outside world to have the effect how I felt internally. And if I kept responding and interacting with it, that means that my inner peace and my inner happiness is based on what's going on in the outside world. And that's not sustainable. And honestly, that's how most people live.

Is most people react in our in constant state of reaction? I don't want to do that because that means that my happiness, my well-being, my mental health is solely dependent on how this person or other people attached to them respond. And I didn't want to do that. And now, have there been moments where I have wavered and I've thrown shade or I've like, you know what I mean? Like playfully. And then I like fix my crown and realize like, shit. But like, right? And I'm going to make mistakes.

I'll not say I'm going to make mistakes But do I know that I could have there's a lot of things that I could have said There's a lot of roads and paths that I could have could have taken and really if anything This whole frenzy that has sparked an interest It just really shows me that one This is why you listen to your gut mama knows best Mama knows best damn well And truly just unapologetically adjust

And that's what it's shown me. And so it's like, yeah, I'll own up to, you know what I mean? Like, absolutely. It's just like, damn. You have, I know so much and I could say so much too, but I know that the paths and the roads and everything that you've taken has always been the high one. Even if you have a little dip in the road, you still, trust me. And I'm people know that. And that's, and I think that's where the thing is, it's, I don't have any, like I said before.

I don't have any regrets. I don't believe on, like, sitting here and, like, sinking and letting regrets take you over because it's like, then you're, you're going to have regrets about wasting so much time regretting. It does jack shit. It doesn't help. Right. It doesn't propel you forward, right?

Having regrets doesn't repel you forward. You need to, like, choose to make the changes, the necessary changes. So, like, in these moments where it's lapses or, you know, whatever, whatever it is, it's like, no like the reason why is because i chose my inner peace i chose to move forward so that i'm i'm not constantly affected by the circus that's happening around me and yeah yeah and it but like i'm i'm curious of your thoughts of just like you adjusting to social media in it we can go outside a bachelor nation too right of like everything that's happening you can talk about like right shit i don't even have an example i thought i was

going to have an example. The whole Haley Beaver, Selena Gomez, whole thing going back and forth. I don't even think that this is a wrong example because I think like Selena has stayed classy. She like, she truly has. But what I will say

is that the internet, once you're in this limelight or you're in the spotlight as public figure, everybody thinks every single post is cryptic. I know. They love to run with nothing. God, everybody thinks every post is cryptic.

So if this is not the perfect time to have a PSA to say that like, when I post, I'm not always referring to past relationships, unless I say past relationships, right? If I unfollow or if I block, generally it's not for me to start a petty circus or add to the circus that's already happening. It's for me to truly protect my inner peace and what energy. I'm choosing to accept into my life. So, like, if I unfollow you, it's nothing that's like, yo, I don't mess with you. I don't all this other stuff. It's really just like, I don't feel your energy. I don't think whatever reason that is.

And I'm moving forward and I'm choosing which energies I'm accepting. So if I don't want your content to cross my page or if I think you're, you know what I mean, don't have pure intentions. If I think you're one of those little gremlins who. starting those burner accounts, right, just to bring me down, 100% I'll block you so you can't see my content or so you don't have access to that. Because truly, like, I'm moving forward and you're not here for a reason. So I'm moving forward. Done. It's not, it's not cryptic. It's not cryptic. I get to choose what energies come in and exit my life. Like, period. Like, it's my

life. Okay, it's your favorite time of the pod. Not me lined. hoping it is. It's time for Zach Shalcross recap, or maybe I should say Zach Shacklecross. Fascinating info for our Peloton Romance Roundup. Lots of tears in this one. But before we dive into it, quick word about Peloton, who sponsors our Romance Roundups, Peloton workouts are made to work for you. They really have movement for every level, no matter where in your fitness journey you are, and their rower works 86% of your muscles in just 15 minutes. I'm actually home right My dad has one, and I'm going to use it as my workout while I'm here. Fifteen minutes is about how long Greer came back before Zach dumped her.

Badoom, boom, ching. Okay, Al, that's actually kind of sad. I talked about this episode a bit on cutting stems, which was really fun. Recapping with Fran and Kelly Kiggs at Barstool. They're just, I don't know, they're always so easy to talk to, and it was fun to recap with them right after the show while it was fresh in the old brain. So, okay, they're in Budapest, and Katie gets a... second one-on-one now i think they're really cute they're cute and silly together and i love a couple

that can just have fun at let loose do i think it's like the deepest connection i'm not sure it kind of seems like high school sweethearts um and then when they were writing each other poems did anyone else notice that katie spelled her name wrong wait you guys there's no i i mean i feel like there's like some joke that we missed or i don't know what do we think happened there. Katie opens up to Zach about her dad leaving at a young age, how he tried to come back into her later on. And he says, I got you and winks at her and it was sweet. But I don't know. Was it sweet? I wanted a bit more. Maybe they edited it out. But I want to know how you guys think he handled that info. I mean, it's hard when you can't relate to a situation. And I do think it's sweet that he

says, I got you. Okay, maybe I take it back. I kind of like it. It's romantic. And I called this out in cutting stems, but I knew this girl was fellow Canadian because she said grade eight and not eighth grade. I don't know if you guys know that. Any Canadians out there, I know you know what I'm talking about. It's grade eight, not eighth grade. You say that grade one, grade two. Little things, you know that you notice as a Canadian. Katie says she's falling in love with him but needs a little more time to be able to actually say it to him. Group date card arrives and the gals find out that Brooklyn is getting the second one-on-one, which makes Kat super sad. Um, and let's talk about the mentalist, okay?

How did he know what those girls were really thinking? I mean, part of me was like, do they have an earpiece in his ear? But still, he wouldn't be able to know the exact word that they were thinking. But I believe in a mentalist, okay? I believe in it. So Charity opens up about how her last relationship ended due to infidelity. Who knew a date with a mentalist would get so damn deep. I mean, I guess so.

But during this part of the date, Kat admits she thought about leaving and Zach brings it up later on. now I actually do think it's fair for Kat to tell the truth at that moment and say she has thought about leaving because it does get really challenging and you're like hey if I don't feel like a priority or special like should I leave I'm about to introduce him to my family this is pretty serious if I don't feel like I'm in love with him or maybe he's not in love with me should we take it that far I actually thought it was pretty honest and also during this date at the night portion Ariel says her father thought they had orgies on the bachelor I was laughing so hard at her impression. I just love her. And Gabby opens up about ADHD and needing to see a therapist and how she's worried about being too much for someone. And that is so relatable. It was really nice to hear someone open up about that and know and be comforted by the other woman. That isn't a flaw. So I wonder if she's getting any mental health help during the show. I know they have a therapist. So I hope she's able to speak to her. Gabby gets to the group date Rose, which means he's going to meet her family.

And then Greer goes to visit Zach, and it's been almost three weeks since they've hugged. That's a long time, actually, in this process. That's like three years in bachelor time. He says he does not feel 100% ready for hometowns with her, and she's clearly devastated. Then it's time for his one-on-one with Brooklyn, where they ride bikes, go on a hot air balloon ride, and get down with another bathhouse, really showcasing the bathhouses here. I'd be into it, but there's just too much people. I don't know.

She gets really emotional talking about her great. grandpa and tells Zach that she is ready for him to meet her family her grandpa's her hero in that moment i was like oh gosh why do i not feel like zach is on the same page he kind of steps away gets emotional and says something isn't clicking which i mean obviously you have to be honest with yourself trust your gut at that point but he sends cat home and now we know who's going hometowns charity katie ariel and gabby this is a great final floor if you ask me cat is obviously not happy all the girls have been dealing with the breakups really well but she seemed pissed Which is fair. Totally fair. And I'm rooting for Ariel or Charity to be the next Bachelorette.

I feel like both of those girls. Like charity is just so sweet. Like she would be really like fun and easy to watch. She'd be really good at carrying a show. And then I feel like Ariel would be obviously fun to watch. She's kind of like outside of the box of what they usually pick, which I love. But anyway, so much romance coming up in hometowns next week. Can't believe we're already at that point in the season. I say this every season. season. And speaking of romance, you can try the Peloton Row risk-free with a 30-day home trial. New members only, not available in remote locations. See additional terms at one peloton.com slash home dash trial.

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Social media-wise, and Michelle's not being petting by unfollowing somebody. Nah, I don't vibe with your energy, period. Nothing personal. I'm moving on. That's not petty at all. No. Protect your energy. Why would I sit and go to coffee or have drinks with somebody?

I don't vibe with or I know that they're not loyal to me or I know that, you know what I mean? Like, I don't trust their intentions. I wouldn't go spend that time. Okay, I'm not going to spend time looking at your content. I don't need you to spend time looking at my content. I'm doing you a favor. And if you want to go out of your way to create a burner account to, like, access my content,

then shit, you put in the effort. That's fine. But know that it's not affecting me. I'm like I truly am like damn like you we never know when the end of the road is so dramatic but like when the end of the road when the end of the journey is going to be we don't know that but one thing I do know is damn well whenever I get there whenever that time hits I'm going to be looking at myself what I did who I became who I impacted the lessons I learned where in in return other people are going to be looking at they spent their whole life focused on somebody

else. They spent their whole life bringing down somebody else. And that's fine. And that's something that you're going to have to face at your time. But me, I'm not doing that shit. Well, look at you. You really are. You're making an impact. You're choosing yourself. Your legacy that you're going to leave is incredible. Let's talk about something that you're doing this year. Let's go. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. This is so aligned with like just who you are and what you want to be a part of. and the launch of your site, Michelle Young Official.com, aka My Impact.

I want to hear all about it. And even though you just launched it recently, I'm sure it was a long time in the making. So how long have you been working on setting this up? God. It feels like forever. Yeah, I know it didn't,

it really didn't start when I like finally like made the financial decision to be able to put it in place, right? Like, it didn't start then. It really started by looking around and seeing who can I bring on board that's in my circle that can get this done. Who can see my vision? Who will allow me to, like, spring my ideas, who will bring ideas at their own, who really genuinely themselves want to make an impact and believe in me to be like the, you know, the person to do that through or to help do that through. And so, God, I've been talking about this for ages, honestly, even when it goes back to motivational speaking, when I was in the locker rooms, when I was talking to teammates, when I was

at AAU, you know, growing up, like, I've always gravitated towards, like, being that person to inspire, to lift people out of dark times, to relate, to be there, just their support. system, right? And so it started a long time ago. But as far as like Michelle Young official dot com, that's when it just coming into this whole world of influencing and understanding the type of, God, like just the difference you can make. But when you scroll through TikTok, when you scroll through Instagram and you see people who are going viral. And when you see just clickbait and when you see likes and all these other things

there's so much anxiety wrapped up into it and like the world that we have become the world that I've seen my really young fifth grade students go through affect their mental health what like I want to grow up to be this versus I want to grow up to be an influencer

right like the people who are seen at the top of the thing and it's no shade to throw to to any influencers because like one have I influenced yes I have but like I really have set out to change the game of influencing like let's really be conscious about what like let's take a pause and be conscious about what we're interacting with right why not support and lift up influencers who are giving back so that you can make an impact yourself why not support people who are truly wanting to have the same vision as you and make an impact so it's not all about the beauty product they're selling it's about

you know the people they're campaigning with with that beauty product that you're making an impact with because at the end of the day you're still you know flowing through them or they're flowing through you to make an impact elsewhere and like that's where I really kind of come into this of okay we've gotten really very like materialistic and that doesn't mean that I'll never sell a product again but what I will say is that anytime you're interacting with my content anytime you're interacting with my stories, my reels, the products that I'm selling is a part of that going to an impact? Absolutely it is. Are you making a difference just by interacting or purchasing? Absolutely. And like that right there, that is making a difference. And now then if I can

take it to the next level where I'm challenging other people to do similar things, now that impact is doubled or tripled or quadrupled. And so it like really gets back to the whole point of let's not just like flash a campaign up here and then take it down right like let's spread awareness but at the same time we really can kind of see the platforms that we have and actually utilize them to make a difference and to push forward with a lot of different things and can you imagine like yeah it's starting with me but can you imagine if other people hop on board absolutely now we're reaching however many people however they're hopping on board like now we're reaching so many other people and we're making an impact at the end of the day and that's that's what i'm here for you know no you've

inspired me to do things like that too like i think you doing this is inspiring other influencers to do it like before i would be like i have donated money or yeah just quietly like off off instagram or like not saying things because i think there's a way to do that without being like and then i did this right what you're doing is giving brands an opportunity to give back, you're inspiring other people to make a difference as being an influencer because I mean, the amount of money people could get paid to just promote a product. Imagine the difference you can make. So I love what you're doing.

And what are some of the organizations and causes that you feel most passionately about right now? Yeah. I think one of the biggest things is that when I was kind of sitting down with my team of people of like, how do I want to handle this? And I started it on my own in the summer where I was like, I'm personally going to be donating a certain percentage or just a certain chunk of these influencer checks that are coming in, right? Like you don't go into this month knowing, hey, I'm going to be making this set amount. Like the influencing game, it's like it does.

It fluctuates. But what I knew that I wanted to do is like I really wanted to engage my followers, the people who believe in the same things with me to have a say. because I know that I don't know every organization that's out there. I know that. And I'm not of the, you know, the no-all be-all. Like, yes, I'm a teacher, but like, shit, if anything I've learned is that I'm learning just as much as my students. Like, my students teach me shit every, like, you know, every single day as much as I'm

teaching them about just life in general. And so for me, partnering with just different nonprofits, causes foundations. That's why I partnered with Girlwell is a huge one. Where this girl at 16 years old, like, I can try to think about what I was doing at 16 years old, but 16 years old. But really, though, like 16 years old, this girl took it upon herself to create a nonprofit. The paperwork, one, the paperwork that takes to do that, like, let's just talk about that. Right. That, like, physically, you're essentially starting a business.

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and you don't have to be an experienced rower to enjoy the peloton row. There are intro to rowing classes and beginner boot camps so you can learn as you go at a pace that feels comfortable for you. I love the peloton row. I feel like it's just like the perfect full body workout. The peloton row also comes with this really cool feature called form assist. So it's your very own partner in progress kind of thing. It actually teaches you how to row by giving you real time correction on your stroke and helps you spot points of improvement, making it the ultimate rowing partner. And as always, with Peloton, no matter where you're starting from, Peloton's expert instructors

are there to guide you with their incredible energy and supportive instruction for every level to really take the guesswork out of working out. So you can try Peloton Row risk-free with a 30-day home trial and new members only. Not available in remote locations. See additional terms at onepellaton.com slash home dash trial. starting a nonprofit to be able to curate all these different brands to donate products so that she can place them inside a wellness or a self-care kit to then go donate to teenagers who are the exact same age as her because she knows that they don't have self-care she knows that they don't have different access or are granted the same resources right

to mental health to beauty care to mental care to Like self-care to all of it, right? She did this at 16 years old. That's incredible. And so really like taking a step back and looking at those things of, okay, well, this person has set out to do this mission. How can I amplify their voices of what they're doing? How can I inspire them? And so the companies, the brands, the nonprofits, foundations moving forward are really just focused on things that, yeah, I align with.

but, like, people who truly are making an impact. You're like, it doesn't have to be this massive foundation. Right. It can be this startup that started in a really small town in Iowa in somebody's basement. Like, that's real and that's still an impact. And to be able to, like, utilize my platform to amplify their voice is huge. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't have to be, like, we were doing that actually on the podcast for a while when it was during the pandemic.

It was like highlighting small businesses. and we would pick a different month like Women's History Month we would support like a small women's business like certain that we would pick different things and I think that's so cool too and also I was talking to the girls from the home edit who are organizers

and they were saying certain things like think about all these influencers who have all this product sent to them just like you know how much gets sent to you like even taking that and donating it to people people will actually come to your house to pick it up. Like you can put things out on your front step and just do the research.

And, you know, like just making little changes like that. Yeah. If we all start thinking about it and doing it, we'll make such a big change. And especially, like you said, in the influencer space with the amount of money that's going around, the amount of products that are happening, the amount of things that just like could make a difference. It's important to use your voice. Yeah.

And I think it's, I think that you hit it on like it's important to use your voice as like as I'm kind going on this shit i'm not going to say journey because i hate that word as i go on this path path yeah path hike climb shit what can i say jaunt i don't know as i kind of like navigate this right are there going to be mistakes absolutely but what i hope people will see and start to understand that sometimes making an impact is not just donating money and that's what It's huge, is that, like, you look at the ice bucket challenge. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. You pour water. I was thinking about that the other day. You look at the ice bucket challenge. You pour water over your head. And it seemed like this, like, small, weird thing. But essentially, it went viral. It blew up.

It raised a ton of awareness. And in this day and age of social media, awareness and interaction is money. And that's what it is. And so it's like as a huge point that I'm going to be. you know kind of speaking up moving forward is that an impact doesn't mean dollar science always it means taking a time to screenshot what i'm sharing and share it out yourself it take take time to show a like or hard a picture or interact with content that is giving back because essentially when when you are putting energy into content or when you're interacting with content

and it goes about you're spreading awareness that's just as impactful if not more impactful, because at the end of the day, it raises more awareness and it raises more funds. And you have then people who are donating. You have people who are funding. You have sponsors who are coming into it. And that's what this my hashtag my impact is about is that it's not every single month asking all of my followers to donate money. It's not. It's asking them to spread the word. It's asking them to continue to insert their own nominations about things that they're passionate about and creating this network where we all lift each other up. That's what it's asking, essentially, you know?

I'm so proud of you. I think it's just so, I don't know how more people have not thought to do this. So I'm so happy that you have and tell everybody where they can go to support and all of that. The biggest thing is Michelle Youngofficial.com really subscribing so that you're in tune to every time where one, there's always going to be a page that's going to show the current impact that I'm focusing on. So right now, if you go to Michelle Young Official.com,

you'll see the My Impact page. You'll see everything that I've done with Grow Well. You'll see, you know, a donation link. But you'll just see a lot of different, like, pieces of content that you can interact with, that you can screenshot yourself, that you can share out. And then really is just stay, like staying tuned in to as we're moving forward to nominating. That's huge thing. Interacting with those nominations, submitting your own nominations, and then voting.

And then as we're moving forward every single month, it's not like you're submitting your nominations and then shit, my name didn't get picked and I'm not interacting with anything. No, it's really like we're all in this together. I can only make as big of an impact as the people who are following me and as big as, you know, the people who believe in what I'm doing and believe in it themselves. And really just like allowing the fans and the followers to help select what I'm focusing on, whether it's the theme, whether it's the organization, foundation, nonprofit. cause. Whatever it is, it's truly just moving forward as a unit, moving forward as a network every single month. It's not just one month out of the year. It's every single month really interacting with that content so that we can make an impact, me keeping y'all up to, like, in tune to what I'm doing. There's going to be different challenges where I'm asking people

to be a part of it, where I'm able to interact and engage, where I'm able to pull influencers like yourself to kind of jump in campaigns. And there's some pretty cool campaigns that are coming up here that are going to be making a huge impact in many different areas of nonprofit foundation cause kind of world of everything so well i'm so happy to help in any way that i can yes we'll have to chat because i have some ideas oh good i would like to we'll chat absolutely i'm going to be coming out there not in march but april um and we'll go and have wine and brainstorm and i'm happy to help you in any way whatsoever like you're incredible i love you and thank you so i'm excited we're going to put your site and everything

in the show notes and on instagram and again like whatever you i will happily help with anything amazing well thank you for everything that you're doing too you are always so just raw and honest i appreciate that there's a reason why i love you shit we we both might make mistakes whatever it is but like i love people who stand true to that and just like are relatable in that sense. So thank you for everything. And we need more of it. Honestly, let me, I'll just move to you. I'm flexible. I'm coming. Great. Okay. Just let me know. I've got a, I've got a spare bedroom waiting for you. And I've got a wine rack ready. So, hell yeah, let's do it. I love it. The wine rack is always full. Thank you so much. I can't wait to see all the big things that you do.

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