Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Wells Adams

Episode Date: January 28, 2021

Wells Adams joins Kaitlyn on the show for GT this week where Kaitlyn shares the tale of the most epic number 2 she's ever taken and Wells talks about his time being back on the show!They also chat about Victoria drama, Chelsea's very real discussion with Matt, and possible Bachelor in Paradise season soon?? SPRINGTIME SUPPLEMENTS - Save up to 55% with free shipping on your first order with code VINE when you visit Springtime.com   GEICO - Go to geico.com , and in fifteen minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance   STRAIGHT TALK - Straight Talk Wireless. No contract. No compromise. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Another week, another episode of The Bachelor. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now starting. This week we saw more drama, a lot of literal fighting, and a lot of romantic moments too. here to break it all down with me is our favorite person wells adams who also happened to make a very special appearance on this week's episode of the bachelor wells and i talk about how he does not get enough screen time how a lot of his parts were cut out we always have a great time together therapy was no different i just laughed the whole time we got into this week's episode here's predictions about who will win matt's heart and play a very special game of how do you proceed hope you guys enjoy my chat with wells hi how are you good how are you um i'm all discombobulated i've been first of all discombobulated is that like um that means like i'm all like out of sorts right yeah yeah i'm discombobulated that's how i feel right now

why you discombobulated um because okay did you see my story about the cat no okay so last night i'm walking um past my front door and there's like the cutest cat in the world just like sitting at my front door and staring at me and like it was all matted and and like wet from this huge storm that was happening and I was like oh my god and then I didn't want the dogs to spook out the cat so I like quickly them in a room and then I went back to the cat and I was like trying to make the cat love me just like through the glass so it trusted me and I was like talking to it and then it looked all scared so I felt bad so I went and got like a towel and I was going to give it food and I didn't know if it was a stray cat or if it was like a neighbor's cat.

and so I went got a little farmer's dog and I put like a little turkey in a dish and then some fresh water and I went to open the door and the cat bolted and I was like no and everyone on Instagram was like cats choose you this this cat chose you to be its owner and I was like oh my god it's it's my cat and so I named her stracey like she's Stacy but she's a stray and so then I've been waiting all day for her to come back and I have food out there and then I bought kitty like treats and I put cat treats all down and now everyone's messaging me saying I'm going to attract rats. So what you're telling me is your Stacey's mom, you've got it going on. Yes, exactly. I'm going to have to write a song about that if she comes back. But then I went to

the dentist today and the guy tried to like dupe me into starting invisaline when I'm already on clear correction and it was like a sales pitch and I got so mad. I was like, don't you try and take advantage of me? And now I'm just all flustered. I'm sorry. Look it. I even have red splotches. That's what happens when I get discombobulated. Dude, that's such a girl thing that happens is, like, stress hives. I've never had that, but Sarah gets them all the time. Oh, my gosh, all the time. If I'm, like, overwhelmed, I'm just like blotchy all over my. Oh, I'm so glad I'm not alone. Yeah, no. But I've never heard of guys being like, oh, my God, I've got a break out hives because I'm nervous or I'm having anxiety, but it's. Well, do guys get anything like that similar?

I don't know. Do you and I get the. Oops. Yeah, I get, I get like nervous energy shits. Yeah. That's my thing. Like before a live show or something, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I got a shit. Oh, same. I swear the dump of my life won me the mirror ball.

That's so disgusting. But I swear that's the truth because I was like, oh, I am not well. I'm not well. And I looked at one of the handlers and I was like, I have to go to the bathroom. like there's no question and she's like you have like five minutes and i was like perfect and i went and i swear i walked out a new woman and then i went out there and did my thing and i won the mirror ball and i swear i like i like give my poop a little bit of credit there you were light on your feet because you're like three pounds lighter exactly otherwise when i came down from that swing

on my last dance i don't know if i would have made it yeah could you imagine that anyways how are you enough about me how are you doing are you a little more sane than i am right now But no, I'm doing good. I'm, you know, just, I don't know. Today's been busy because the batch, because I was kind of on the bachelor last night. So, uh, that's about it. I watched the episode and then I, I had, okay, this is so cute,

but my dad had his AA birthday. And so I obviously had to stay sober. But, um, it was his 26 AA birthday and they did a Zoom birthday for him. And so I had to join that. So I missed the last 30 minutes of the episode. Was that when you were on? Because otherwise I don't remember. Yeah, it was at the end.

And it was like, it was totally cut. They cut the date like into like a quarter of what it really, yeah. I just think that they got super ambitious with what they were trying to do. Because that episode was just so jam-packed, you know, it was like Rose ceremony, one-on-one, new chicks come in, then two group dates. It was like, that's just too much for. So, yeah, they cut, they cut Ben. I feel like they cut Ben out of it a lot. Like, we can talk.

about this on your show or have we started i don't even know oh yeah we have started okay i felt i felt bad for ben because so i was ben and i were obviously there at the same time but we didn't get to hang out but i hung out with chris and chris was like dude that was the funniest date ever and i was like what happened it was like he was like it was just ben yelling at women like roan do better in the pumpkin and like put your freaking squirrel suit on you idiot it was like he was Like, it's the funniest thing ever because Ben's, like, the sweetest guy. And he's sitting there being like, what are you doing? Find your nuts.

Don't you want love? He like, all of a sudden was, like, able to let go of the perfect Ben image he's been hanging on to for so long. And, like, his free spirit just finally came out where he was like, it just all came out at once. Yes. And I was, like, so excited because Chris was, like, dying, laughing, telling me, like, this, like, sweet, like, church-going Ben Higgins being like, do better! and they cut it out yeah it wasn't really he kind of like gave some advice and then like that was

kind of it um and then same with same with my thing like all these girls fought and it was like so horrible like they were so bad at it and it was like it was just chris and i was dying laughing at like how terrible this whole thing was and they cut the whole thing out it was it was it was too bad i had such i had such a good like some one girl was from at front was from l.a another girl was New York and I was like, ooh, east side, west side battle, Tupot versus Biggie, who's Biggie in this situation? Yeah. And like, it was all cut. But, you know, hey, listen, it was fun to go out there and I got to play golf with Chris and Higgins out. So it was a win-win for me. That's a win. If you can, like, just go on a mini vacation, stay at, what is that place called

Nemecolin? Nemecolin. If you could stay there and play the golf with Ben and Chris, like, that's awesome. but it is super annoying and frustrating when they cut out funny stuff. I'll never forget, like, going back on for Jojo's, your season, I guess. And I was there at the beginning. I said so much, and they literally made me look like I had laryngitis or something. Like, I was like, like, they didn't show me to say anything. And I was like, oh, cool, cool, thanks for cutting me out of the whole thing. But I feel like they do that to you a lot on Paradise.

Like, you have so much good material. And they're like, or we could focus on the shitstorm that is. going on. Yeah. The only time I really shined in comedic capacity on Paradise was when they had the shutdown and they just needed hours of entertainment. So it was just me with puppets. Which was so funny. I know. Gosh, I always, I think I said this to you on the last podcast. I feel like I would thrive on a sports date doing the, the back and forth with Chris Harrison. But then I would get so annoyed because I'd be like they probably would cut out everything I said. Yeah. And the problem is that like you and i know chris so well it's like it's just like a buddy buddy hang out

like i wasn't like trying to hit jokes and punchlines and stuff and it's almost like well when i hang out with him and i'm sure this is the same as you when you know him that well your jokes become really inappropriate and like wouldn't make tv anyways so you're like damn it if only if only that stuff could make the episodes um what was like oh your podcast okay you have a podcast obviously everyone knows your favorite thing with brandy um i want to know what your favorite thing is about this season so far. Victoria, for sure. Yeah, of course. Like, is it ever, okay, people always complain about the villains, but then they're always the best part of the episode. So I never, it's always so contradicting for people to say that. But Victoria, like,

she's such a bully, but like her chirps are so bad that it's funny. She's so unaware of herself, which I think is, like, beautiful. I was looking at Twitter last night and it was, like she's an actor, she's a plant. Producers always put these types of people in. Quit casting these people. And one annoys me because the show would suck without people like that. And then the other thing is, is that the show is supposed to be in its purest form, a microcosm of real life.

You're supposed to have all different types of people and personalities and yada, yada. and you're supposed to go on dates that you kind of would in real life and stuff. Obviously, it's exaggerated to the nth degree and it's accelerated like crazy. But hey, guess what? In real life, you date assholes. That's a real life thing. And guess what? I would say that 99% of your audience has dated an asshole at some point in their life.

And so if you don't have an asshole on the show, then you're not representing what it's like dating in life, you know? And so she represents a very important part. part of everyone's dating life. And then juxtaposition, you have someone like Katie who represents the person that you should have ended up with, but you didn't because you're into fucky boys. You know, like, and that's just the truth of the matter. Katie's who they won't let you pick because they would like them to be the next

bachelorette. Well, dude, I remember you, and I wanted to ask you this, at the first episode, you're like, I don't know what it is, but I got a feeling that Katie's going to be like, like the next batch rat and i like saw that tweet and i was like dildo girl dildo girl has no chance and then last night i was like i've never seen a bachelorette at it like this in my entire life like she has got to i know so here's my question one okay are you like clairvoyant or smart or did you ask a producer and be like who's your front run do you do you think a producer would tell me i think chris would tell you

no i think they all know not to say anything to me even people who i'm really close with because i run my mouth and i spoil shit and i know they they would never tell me that i honestly said that night one because of my terrible one liner out of the limo how raunchy i was apparently like everyone's like this girl's and gross and i was telling sex jokes and so i was like rooting for her almost and i loved her humor that i was like you just want to watch she's going to come in guns blazing with the dildo and dildo girl's going to go far and this tweet will age well and she might even be the bachelorette and on episode two i was like holy shit i thought that was just going to be a funny tweet and it's like really working for me yeah she looks great i love

her so i was like she's dildo girl like i can't wait for dildo girl to come down to paradise i'm going to make a drink and use the dildo to stir it and now i'm like so many penis drugs yeah and i was like now uh she's katie wells yeah can have some respect and two, she's not going to paradise? She's the bestorette. It's over. I know. Isn't that so funny?

I felt the same way. I was like, like, I feel terrible now calling her dildo girl because that just like doesn't suit her personality. And now I'm all like, she's so sex positive talking about her vibrator. What a classy way to say dildo. She's such a queen. Oh my gosh. She is.

She's lovely, though. She's funny. She's lovely and she's cute. And I'm just like, I'm, I'm rooting for that girl. Whatever she does in life, I'm buying what she's selling. You give me all of the flat tummy tea, Katie. I will drink it.

Yeah, exactly. But I don't know, man. I would say that last night was the first night where I was like, whoa, I think the show is starting to get to a lot of people. Yeah. And a lot of women, I think, started showing their true colors. Like the veneer came off a little bit. Yeah. And it made me kind of sad because.

I Anna I thought was hilarious because her facial expressions always looks like she's just smelling a huge piece of shit it's always just like you know like it's just or or like she's trying to keep her a crest white stress drive and I was talking about this on on my podcast with brandy today like I think there's two things you can't do in this world in terms of rumors number one you can't start a rumor that someone has an STD, that lives with you forever. Like, we've all had that friend that we all like made the joke that they had like Chlamydia in high school.

And like you wrote a song about a guy once. Yeah. And then you go back for Thanksgiving and you see that person. And the first thing you're like, oh, that's Chlamydia Claire, you know, like, oh, I just made that name. But that's sorry. I don't know. It was the C in the C.

Yeah, it was alliteration. Don't read into that. No, no. That's definitely not going to be. the headline of this podcast. Yeah, please don't. But, like, that's, that's something that, like, that you never can shake. And the, and I think it's similar to being, like, someone's a hooker.

Like, that's going to live with them for, if it's true or not, like, and also it's 2021, like, in women's rights and be woke and, like, who gives a shit if she was an escort? But, right. You can't do that. And, like, that's the most, that, like, really, really turned me off. And then when I started seeing other women. like entertaining that and like perpetuating it like i get it from victoria that's part for the course for her of course but like seeing mj do it i was like oh god you guys yeah it it felt

icky to me too like because of the times we're in and because like if she was an escort at one point in her life like what if she was doing that to like put herself through school or help her sick father like you never know people's stories and you can't just throw that out there as an accusation of like, oh, I just want to get this off the table, but I heard you entertain men for money. And it's like, what? Yeah. Why would you even bring that up?

I hated that. It made me feel so icky. And it made me mad at Anna and MJ because I, MJ was up there. Like, I was like, oh, she's cool. And then it felt icky. It's so funny because I was kind of mean to MJ on, um, so they cut this. But MJ was supposed to box and she forfeits because she says she's a pacifist. and so I'm like of course they're like what do you think wells and I was like

you got you got a fight like that's what we're all here for what are you talking about you know you got to do everything you can for extra time in that rose or whatever yeah and afterwards I was like that's a shitty thing for me to do I shouldn't me especially shouldn't tell anyone to do anything you know that includes exercise so like I felt bad and then after watching out last I was like well I'm glad I said that to her and I because that was me me. I feel better about that. Good job, Wells. Have you ever seen, I'm sure you have, but a 40-year-old Virgin and they're like speed dating and it's Seth Rogan and the other girl comes up like the ex of somebody else and he's like, man, you really broke his heart and like he's really upset

and he loves you so much and she's like, he stalked me and he did this and he creeped me out and he goes, well, I didn't know that so I'm sorry. That's what that reminded me about. I always have the dumbest movie references when people talk. I'll be like, oh, like, a family guy or like the 40-year-old virgin. Everyone's like, shut up, Caitlin. What were we just saying? We were just talking about how those girls kind of started to do involved. I also feel like MJ was, I was always like, she's so pretty, like naturally pretty.

Like she doesn't do anything to her hair. I think she wears no makeup. And then in this last episode, she looked really tired. And I was like, she's turning evil, man. Like you could see it in her face. Ace. It's getting to her. The hours are getting to her. Guess what time it is? It's that time of the pub where I talk about my dogs. That was a terrible intro. I'm going to bring up my two favorite boys, Pino and Ramen. They really are my best friends, BFFs, and I've been keeping them

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As you watch each season of The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, girls that start off really hot sometimes become unattractive. And girls that you weren't like looking twice at become like the most beautiful girls on the planet. And that always has to do with getting to know their personality. And I find that so interesting. Yeah. My other favorite thing is to see how long it takes for women to be like,

fuck it. I'm wearing sweats while we're waiting for Chris to come give us. Because in the beginning, they're all like wearing nice clothes and they're like trying to look their best. And then at some point they're just like, I don't give a shit. I'm wearing my ugs and my sweats and Chris comes great. If not, I'm comfy. Yeah, yeah, I know.

That happens usually week three. Yeah, and you're like, holy shit, I'm tired. If I could just roll out of bed and get miced, I'm good. Like, give me that extra 35 minutes of sleep. And so, yeah, wait, Katie and Victoria had a fight. Oh, my gosh, this is what was funny. I saw Katie, like, doing this or something. And she clearly had wet nails.

She was, like, trying to dry during that argument. And I saw someone tweet her and asked, and she was like, yes, I was doing that. And I was like, that's so funny. I totally called it. Okay, but we finally have Matt see Matt have some of the time with women like Chelsea. They have a conversation about the relationship with her hair as a black woman. Definitely love seeing more of a real conversation like that. Chelsea, I really love.

And I loved that she talked about, like obviously I can't relate to certain types of hair. For Chelsea to go on the show and talk about that, I thought that was really cool. Yeah, and Chelsea has the best style out of anybody there. Yes, she does. She absolutely rocks her style. and like she's got such a gorgeous face and she seems like a really big sweetheart. I really liked her this episode.

Yeah, she's cool. She feels real. What else? Cocktail party, more drama. Oh, Piper. I love that name. I don't remember what happened with Piper. He just sat down to have a conversation

about strong women with her. Kit, looks like the girl from the Queen's Gambit. Have you seen that? Yeah, or she looks like a Brats doll. Oh, yeah. She totally looks like a brat stall. I feel like Kit. I like Kit, actually.

I feel like she is a purely like I want to go to Paradise person. Like I do. You think so? Like I don't, I feel like she's just like, I feel like she's 19. Like I don't know how old she is, but she seems like she's someone who's just like, I'm in college and I kind of want to just like go like spring break in Dalita. And I'll see you guys there. Yeah, she's definitely not there for Matt.

I don't see, like, the chemistry or, like, her interest. Or she just has this, like, her, her, like, persona, like, everything about her just seems like she doesn't really care to be there at all. So that's why I didn't see her in Paradise because I was like, does she even want to be on TV? I don't know. I think she wants to be, yes. Oh, you do.

Okay. I think she wants to be on Paradise. That's what I'm saying. I think this whole thing, this is all of one elaborate ruse to get to Mexico. I mean, fair enough. But when is Paradise going to happen? Has that been talked about yet? I think they're hoping it just goes back to how it normally used to be in the summer.

Oh, really? Yeah. In Mexico? I think if they can, they're going to do it in Mexico. If not, they can just do it in stateside. But I think the thought is that by the summertime enough people will have been vaccinated that they can go down and do it. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, let's hope so.

I friggin miss that show the most. And what did you feel about the switchup of all these new women coming in at this point in the game? I feel bad. First of all, Matt, Matt's not cut out for this already. Like, he's terrified. Poor guy, like, had never been liked up or had a camera shoved in his face. And now they're like, is this getting hard? Is it hard enough for you? Well, fuck you.

We're getting more chicks. And hot ones, too. And you know what? It seems like you seem really weird about intimacy. So the first chick out, she's a stick her tongue down your throat. Take that, Matt. It's so true. Why do they do this to him?

It's like, it is so sweet to watch, though, because he's, like, so game for everything. And he just wants to, like, he doesn't know how to do this and it shows. But it's really sweet how he's approaching it because it's like he wants to make everybody happy. But he's also like, holy shit. Like I can just make out with this girl right now And that just flows here Yeah It's so funny

I was like I put myself in those girls shoes About new girls coming in I would be pissed But I would try and like hide it Because you don't want your like insecurities to really start showing At this point of the game

And I would be like Yeah let them come in You just let them And then inside I'd be freaking out But I don't know I always want to know What like you as a male Would think about that

And what that would be like for you I mean I can totally sympathize with them being like, we're the OGs. We've been here. Like, we've got this bond. Like, we've been having this connection with him. Well, the truth of the matter is, is that those girls that came late have been there the same amount of time as the other girls, the OGs, you know? And so, like, if I was one of the new girls, I'd be like, you, I mean, in that stupid hotel room this entire time. Let me have my one-on-one date and go up in a goddamn balloon. Stop being a pizza decor. You know, be like, come on, man. I mean, the same freaking fast food, the room

service from Nemo Cullum Resort every day. I've been seen. You know, like, that would be my response because, because for the, for what it is, it's paradise, right? Like, that's what happens in paradise. Everyone got at the same time and you wait to come on. And you hear these horror stories of what girls be like, I start to lose my mind. I've been there for 14 days. I've seen everybody. It's true. It's true. And like, do you think those girls even had that choice? Like, do you think they thought they were coming in night one but they got held back for that long and now they're finally getting their chance to come in and not mad at them but really they didn't have a choice either oh i don't i mean i don't know i just assumed that they had everyone there at the beginning and they were like that's what i think so these girls are like they didn't probably didn't have a choice of when they came in or not and then i'm like you guys remember that this is matt's decision like if he doesn't like you you're going home anyways like if he has a better connection with one of these girls that comes in it's because he's meant to find her like it he doesn't like you as much so no matter what if he doesn't like you you're going anyways yeah yeah i sympathize with i think i would have been like that

but i don't know if i would have said anything right yeah that's what that's me too i would have been like cool come on in and i would try and make friends with all them but inside i'd be like losing my shit i'll tell you one thing though if i was miss porto rico and someone took my fucking crown off i was gonna ask i ought to slap the bitch i'm sorry that i don't and i don't even know if like a crown is important but like i don't think the i think like the sacks and the crowns important i don't think you take that especially from no it's important yeah that's like that's like the thing you win at the end that's like when you are crowned that is the crown to say you have worked for this and i love how pageant girls always come in with their sashes and crowns it's amazing but but victoria taking

that that was like i mean i always react and i'm animated but when that happened i was like oh It was like the spirit stick on like that cheerleading show. What was that called? Do you know what I'm talking about? It's like the spirit stick or the continuum trans functioner from dude where's my car. Exactly. Yeah. Now we're talking.

And that's what it felt like. But yeah, that was a bold move by Victoria. But Victoria is like totally there for shock value. I don't think she's self-aware, but I think she's okay with being a villain. And I think she's like, I'm just going to. to do the most ridiculous shit because that's what I'm here for. Yeah, totally. Do you think so? She just, like, knows how to play her role. I also think that that's how she is in real life. I think that she's like, we all have at least friends or like acquaintances that, um, like their

schick is like being the bitch, you know, like, I don't take any shit. Like, I'll yell at the waiter if they've screwed up your order and you're like, this isn't your fight. Yeah. Everyone has those people and they kind of are they're empowered by like I don't remember when we used to go to bars I remember going out to bars and like you know you meet like a big group of girls there's always one that's like

you're not going to fucking like me because I'm a bitch and you're just like what why is that your intro to this situation you know and I think that's her thing I think that like she her identity is she's the like alpha female

of the group Kate, I just had a little, like, a-ha moment with her that, but you kind of did it for me. But when I heard that, I was like, you're right. She's probably going into it being like, I'm not going to get hurt because if I put on this facade, then I'm not going to get hurt. He can't hurt me because I'm so tough. And the girls won't, like, I don't care if they don't like me because I'm tough. And like, do you think that's what it is?

But she's really just deep down insecure. Yeah, I think that she's the most insecure out of all of them, you know? Just so sad. I know it is it sucks but that's why I love her like she's I don't hate her the reason like why you know you look at the internet and people are hating on I don't I I love her she's making the show palatable for me but I do feel I do here's where like my sympathy or my empathy comes in with the whole thing is you can tell there's some there's some sadness in there and that's why she keeps on asking people to apologize to her because I think she's insecure and she wants

validation for like why she's feeling that way. Yeah. She definitely wants validation. Got it. Like sometimes I want to punch her in the vagina and sometimes I want to give her a hug. And it just like depends on the minute of the show. I'm all over the place with that one. But Twitter is of course mean. But I love and I've said this on podcast before I love that she turns off mean comments on her Instagram. So like the only comments she'll read her ones about her being a queen. It's amazing. How can you do that? You can turn off like certain words in your comments. So like actually that's a funny game. Okay, frigate, whatever. I'll find it later. But I know mine is like from, I think it started four years ago, five years ago maybe, that you could block certain comments and people say, and I have to block, like, the words were like, slut, Nick, whore. I was like, you can't say that to me.

So, yeah, you can. So she probably blocked all these, like, other things, but, like, one word you can see is queen. And I respect that about her because that's, like, doing something for her mental health. And I think that's very important. I just hope to God that she walks her happy ass down those steps and paradise. Of course she will. And I have a feeling that I'm going to have a lot of heart-to-hearts with her. Like, I feel like there's going to be a lot of her, like, crying into a whiskey sour.

For some reason, that's what I think she drinks. I don't see that, but that was an interesting choice. Yeah, I don't know. It's just, like, being upset. And then, like, I mean, I hope that, like, some equally. horrible, wonderful person walks down, like, then they get married and then everyone loves that couple for the rest of Batsar Nation. You know what?

A lot of villains seem to get their redemption there. And I, weren't you thinking up a scenario of Bennett and Victoria? Yes, I desperately wanted Bennett and Victoria, but we had Bennett on our show this morning and he said that that was not going to happen. But you know who he's into. Yes, Andy Dorfman. Yes. He told me. And I was like, oh, I'll plant the seed. And then that day, Andy posted a photo with like two men's legs behind her. And then I was like, oh, never mind, never mind. We got months and months till Mexico. It's fine. I wonder if Andy would ever go on Paradise. Probably not.

Just bring her on as like a, you know, like a host of a date and then just see what happens. And then just see what happens. I think that Bennett is. and Victoria are too, like, like, you've got to have two opposites that attract. They're too, like, much of, like, ridiculousness on the same page. Even though, did you talk to Bennett and feel like he was pretty normal? Yeah, I was like, I even asked him, I was like, was like, was that just a caricature of, like, what you think a Harvard guy is? And he was like, kind of. That's exactly what I thought.

I was like, is this an act? Actually, Jason wants to say something. He just walked in the room. We were talking about Bennett and how he played a role of, like, the Harvard guy. oh for sure well wells i got a thing i got to go to but i heard your voice and i just want to start a whole can't hashtag that's wells for more tv time yes it's absolutely ridiculous you show up to beach you show up to nemochola you show up all over the place and i see your face and i finally get excited and people praise more wells and then there's no and nothing yeah it's bullshit yeah we're i

already told them that you already did yeah okay i just want to make sure you need that I was sticking the same thing. Well, hey, buddy, it's good to see your face. I'm sorry about the bills, but next year, man. The bills next year. For 32 years, I've been saying next year before I can even say to where it's next year. Yeah, but they had a great run and a great year. You should be very proud, and you got to live a very exciting time as a Bills fan.

That's true. Well, said. All right, I'm out of here. Where is good to see you. We have the student loan event tonight. Oh. So if you have any student loan debt, let me know a well. Oh, my gosh.

Did the cat come back yet? cat has not come back yeah no cat for us jason was really freaking out that we were about to adopt a new cat which we are if she comes back he she whatever um anyways yeah the bill's lost we we don't talk about that around here i said jason you have two days to be sad you have two days to pout cry get it all out be angry and then we're moving on yeah it's tough but they're good team so they're great team and it was a fun season and they did really well they'd like shit on the last game. They deserve to lose. Sorry. Yeah. I mean,

that's... Anyways, where were we before Jason Indra? They played freaking Kansas City. No one's beating Kansas City. Sorry. It's just not going to happen. No. No, they're incredible and they're going to win the Super Bowl. And that's good too, because shit team before and now they're getting their shot and

everybody can be happy for them. Very true. Okay, where were we? Let's just jump to oh, pared. Whatever. You know what I'm saying. Michelle, new addition to the house gets the one-on-one. everyone and their dog are rooting for Michelle and Matt at this point. Do you agree?

Is she the one that came late and then they went on the one-on-one in the hot air balloon? And she was an athlete and she said that they'd be, they'd like breed good kids. And I was like, wow, they really would. They would breed an athlete for sure. I know that's all I was thinking. I was like, look at her arms. They're so defined. She does more precept than I do.

They would be, they would make amazing babies. And I fully support it. He seems like he's super into it. But. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm super into it. I just thought they were really sweet together and I, he loves that she's a teacher and they

like had like a nice, normal real conversation and like they talked about important things and I don't know. I just really liked their connection. Jason is all for them and I'm happy she came in late. And he posted something that said better late than never with her. Oh, see. Yeah. Got to look for those clues, you know?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways, what else happened? Okay. This is where I left. This is where I left and you obviously came in. Kind of.

I kind of came in. It's, you did come in, but we wouldn't know it. Yeah, exactly. So they, it was like, a lot of the stuff that got cut out is a bummer. Even before I got there.

So they have this boxing date. So they make them go do like Rocky four workouts, like the Russian like running around and rocking. show with like logs and shit like punching trees and stuff they're getting creative yeah and like I remember them telling me like they've been running around in the forest like they can't box for shit and just run around the forest I was like oh gosh me such a funny episode and then they get in there and like it's just all like yeah like like not like like more I don't know like little kangaroos trying fight. No one can hit anybody. It's the dumbest thing in the world.

Finally someone gets smoked. Yeah. Who was it? Serena P., who I really like, she got smoked in the face, didn't she? Yeah. I don't know. Someone just got, it was just like, Chris and I were just like, this is dumb, this is dumb, this is dumb. Oh, shit. Game on. Oh, anyways. And so, but here's the thing that they cut it, like, they only show like three girls fight but like everyone had to fight and then um and then there was like some sort of somehow someone won i don't know and then uh and then there was confetti that blew up and it was it

there's a belt someone won a belt that was oh that's cool people were excited about that and then afterwards they made me fucking clean up the confetti on the stupid oh they did it and so i'm sitting there being like all right this is you know This is classic, like, credit roll material. I'll clean it up. And so I'm like, Chris always makes me do the dirty work. And I cleaned up that shit. And they still cut it.

I was like, come on, guys. This is messed up. That's messed up because I know from my off the vine tour that confetti is expensive. And it's even more to get cleanup of confetti. And you did it for free. Well, they probably paid you, but you didn't even get any screen time on it. I didn't. Oh, that's, that's horse shit right there.

That's, what ran at the end in the credits? Oh, it was, I will admit it was funny, but it was just weird. It was Matt and Maggie having kind of like a one-on-one situation, and he started talking about dancing, and then she was like, dance for me. And I think he did a TikTok dance, but there was no music, and it was just the most awkward. So. Because they probably played the music, but then they didn't want to get the rights for it. So they cut it out.

So he was just like doing TikTok moves to nothing. Oh, that's so awkward. That's funny. Okay, and then what happened? You have to tell me because I wasn't there. Wait, I have it in my notes because I got my girlfriend to tell me the last portion of it. And somebody calls somebody the dumbest hoe? Yeah, I don't know.

That's kind of the end of it. And then it just goes into like, I forget the girl's name, but the girl that's being accused of being an escort is like, upset because people are calling her a hooker on national television and she's like I'm on Chicago. What are you talking about? She's like, this is really going to ruin my modeling career for me.

I just wanted to sell comedy. This is not good. I feel so bad for her. Like, it's funny and all, but like it's not. I know. Yeah, so then it's just like a lot of teasers of like next week and I think Kate. And is it more bullies? Yeah, it seems like it's a lot of bullying.

What's going on there? Why are they doing so much bullying? Why doesn't somebody sit them down and be like, hey, this isn't cool. It's not bully everybody. I don't know. I think everyone's, because Katie's the one person doing it, and everyone's like, Dildo Girl over here, she's going to tell me what to do. Delo Girl really is like the, what is that word I'm looking for?

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where I put people in really awkward situations and then ask them how they proceed. Okay, you ready? Yeah. Okay. Queen Victoria sits down at the bar of Mexico with you and tells you that she's caught feelings for someone completely unexpected. And it's Chris Harrison. She asks you what you should do.

How do you proceed? Act on those feelings immediately. go do it yeah that's what that's the advice you give and also chris does really well when cameras are around so make sure you find a camera guy and go and also here's a shot in case you were feeling nervous oh my gosh yeah that's probably exactly what i would do okay it's paradise season you take a midday bartending to sneak off to the bathroom only to walk into a situation you've never seen before. It's one of the girls from Matt Seasons hooking up with a producer. How do you

proceed? So one of the girls hooking up with a guy producer? Yeah. Or girl. Whatever she's in. No, I'm just trying to paint the picture of my mind. Because if it's like girl on girl situation, it might be like we're going to watch us for a second and see what happened.

I'm kidding. I don't. I go find a camera person and I say, be quiet, but come here, come look at this. That's a- Except you ask for a raise first. That's, yeah, that's fair. What would you do? That's what I would do. I would ask for a raise.

I'd be like, if you want to know something that's really scandalous going on, let's sign a quick contract. And then I'll take you right this way. I don't know. What would I do? I would probably I would just be a little tattletale bitch. I would be like,

you're not allowed to do that. And tell a producer, that's what I would do. Yeah, I don't know. I might like wade it out and see what happens, drop clues slowly that I know, you know. Maybe play some mind games, fuck with them a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be fun. Playing the mind games on the producer and the person. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, of course. course. Okay, you've had a Paradise promotion. There it is. And now to get help with the casting for each season, you're a part of it. You're allowed to choose one, but only one of the following nature. What? Following bachelor's favorites. Claire, Dale, Tyler Cameron, or Peter Weber,

how do you proceed? For what? To be the bachelor? To be, just to come down to the beach. Oh. I think that the person that would be. be the most effective in terms of ratings would be Tyler Cameron. You think so? Yeah. I mean, Dale's going to be there. Let's be real. 1,000% Dale's going to be there. I don't know what to believe with those rumors because you never really know, but what do you think is going on there? Do you think he cheated? Oh, I don't know. I mean... I know. I don't know either. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think that the whole thing is just sad like it's sad and it's sad because we all knew it's going to

happen right like when it's it's already such an accelerated time span to fall in love that like yeah you shorten that up and you knew it was just going to be trouble but yeah yeah that guy was built for paradise you got best believe he's going to be there i would be surprised at clare shows up. You know what? I would not be surprised at that either because, I mean, she's done Paradise before. I feel like she would not be against it. She's always open to an opportunity to find love.

I feel like she'd go for it. And I think Dale would be there in a heartbeat. And I don't think Tyler would ever do it, though. Do you? No. I don't know, though. Like, you know, after a couple of times get tough for him. Yeah, those like numbers start going down a little.

bit and you start throwing up a little more thirst traps than you used to all of a sudden paradise starts looking a little more appealing oh trust me i'm not going to name names but somebody oh i want to name his name i found out who chirped anyone who went on paradise he thought it was so embarrassing and blah blah blah and i found out he was calling producers nonstop trying to get on last season oh yeah that doesn't that doesn't shock me really yeah everyone's It's full of shit, man. Everyone is full of shit. That is the most accurate thing you've ever said in your whole career of words that have come out of your mouth.

That's very fair. Okay, last one. Quarantine put your wedding plans on hold, but you get a special opportunity and you can get married down in paradise for free with all your friends and family there. Wedding of your dreams. How do you proceed? Is it televised? Yes. No.

No, thank you. Yeah. hard pass hard pass yeah uh would you no i don't really care about a wedding to be honest jason's the one that really wants a wedding and i'm more like can we just hit the courthouse on our way to like buffalo wild wings oh my god he loves buffalo wild wings that's so funny uh our street is so funny like we're in like a newer neighborhood but the street before us is like i don't know the most random street ever you like drive to get to our house you pass like a hooters a buffalo wild wings um what is the um chilies are you out in like cool springs now no i'm in the hermitage

oh in hermitage yeah okay yeah i know exactly but it's so random but like driving into our area it's like a little questionable i mean i think you're close to good shit i that hooters i mean hooters i'm not going to lie jason decided one night we were on postmates and we were like I don't know, browsing, there's really nothing to order on Postmates at this time of night. And Hooters was on there. And I was like, hey, they got like a grilled salmon and ordered it. And it was delicious. We had like one of our favorite meals from there. We got fish and chips. We got a grilled salmon and we got some wings. And it was quite delicious. So go Hooters. Yeah. Yeah, they get a bad rep, but they have delicious.

They get a great rep. Oh, they do? Why? Every guy in the world likes Hooters. yeah but do they like it for for the food well i think i think the ambiance is also important but they do have good wings like that's a fact they do they really do jason is a wing connoisseur and he was very impressed with their quality of wings okay last question a skateboard wings or um drumsticks or the flats or the drumsticks what oh like the wings if you eat a wing Do you like the drumstick or the flat one? Oh, I like the wingy.

Yeah, the flower. Yeah. And do you do blue cheese or ranch? I like both. Interesting. I like to go back and forth. I also very much like celery. Oh, me too.

But not on a regular basis, only if it comes with wings. Yeah. Like if you're going to, like, I never am sitting in the kitchen, be like, I'm going to cut up some celery and have a nice snack. But if it's there on the wings, I really enjoy it. Yeah. And I always make them stay. I'll be like, I'll do half hot buffalo and half like garlic barbecue.

And I fucking hate garlic barbecue every single time, just always get the buffalo. What am I trying to prove to myself? I don't know. You want to have the options. I think you like options, but then you like, oh, I always go back to the thing I like the most. And then you regret your decision. I get food envy all the time. Like, I'll think I'm really happy about what I ordered and then somebody else will get something.

And I'm like wanting to pick off their plate because I get food envy. Yeah. Yeah. important stuff anyways okay that's all I got for you what else do you have going on where can people listen to your podcast

do the whole shabang um okay uh I you don't have this down by now no I was just oh I was I was in Wing World and then you pulled me over in promotion

well you can hang out Wing World for a little more if you have more thoughts on the wings uh I have two podcasts but um the one that people probably want to listen to is called Your Favorite Thing podcast. It's with me and my friend Brandy Cyrus. Your entire audience knows about this because I've been on this show.

I feel like more than anybody else. But sometimes maybe I have new listeners from dancing. You never know. That's very true. Yeah. So it's me and Brandy Cyrus, who's like the sister of Miley and Noah and daughter of Billy Ray. And we've been doing, we actually started doing a radio show years ago. Then we turned it into a podcast.

And it's called Your Favorite Thing because we just talk about what our favorite things are. It's a very positive podcast. and it's just like suggestions for binge watching Netflix stuff and movies and books and music and then obviously we talk a little bit of Bachelor and it's just kind of like a lighthearted, easy listening podcast. My other one's called The Wells Cast where I interview famous people about like how they became famous,

like it's an origin. That's a really good. I love that you do. That's a cool idea. Yeah, that's fun because every famous person you think, oh, it was like an overnight success and it's like, that's usually not the case. And the common denominator for those guys

is they all were waiting tables and bartending and, you know, just burning at both ends and hustling like crazy. And so that's always really interesting and kind of inspiring to listen to. And then at Wells Adams on social media and then I don't know, everything else is up in the air

in terms of like TV shows I was supposed to do this year. So we'll see. Yeah. God, that's annoying. I feel that. Who's your favorite guests you've interviewed for, What is, wait, what is the second one called? Well's cast? Yeah, Wells cast.

Who's, who's your favorite celebrity of an interview? Oh my God. I've done so many. I really liked the situation. Stop, really? Yeah, because I didn't, I wasn't like a Jersey Shore guy. Yeah. At the other day, like, all this shit is for me.

I really don't care what you guys think. Like, it's about what I like. Yeah. But no, like, I wasn't a Jersey Shore fan. And then we, like, really vibed and, like, his story, his story was less about, like, well, it was interesting at how he got the show. Like, Jersey Shore was really predicated around him. Like, they created this show with him and mine as the central focal point, which I didn't know. I just thought they kind of brought all these, like, kind of.

Oh, yeah, same. I didn't know that. Friends together. And then he was really candid about his time in prison, which I thought was really interesting. Oh, that's cool. I mean, not cool, but cool to hear that that he was open and talked about it. Yeah, and he was very candid. I thought that was cool.

But, like, there's something for everyone. Like, I think it's definitely, like, a pick and choose podcast because, yeah, there's, I have athletes on, like, Victor LaDipo or, like, running backs and golfers and everything. So I got into sports, that's cool. I've got obviously a lot of actors, a lot of reality TV people. They're super interesting, like the dance moms I had on. Oh, wow. I can only imagine.

Oh, man, I love that show so much. And I was, like, so pumped to have them on. But that's so dumb because it's dance moms. but yeah but i bet that was fascinating because i know all about dance moms yeah and then uh like musicians and authors and everything so just go and check it out if there's anyone that like kind of interests you to check it out and that's awesome well thank you for always being such a pleasure to talk to your i just never like i don't even really plan for our podcast because i was like we're just going to shoot the shit and that's why i love it so thank you for joining me tell sarah say hello

and how are your dogs they're good i'm surprised there was not one single interruption during this. It was impressive. Yeah, leave that up to mind. Look at this little pinot nut right now. Just like, I'm done. I won't be here anymore. Oh, my God.

I love that dog. Yeah, I'm going to go let them out. And I'm going to go look for my cat. So it was a pleasure talking to you. And we'll chat soon. All right. Tell your man, I say, I'm really sorry again. That's tough.

I'll just, I'll keep, yeah, apologizing for you. Miss the knife and the fucking booze. No, it was good to see your face. and hopefully soon we can hang out again. That would be nice. I can't wait. Yeah. All right. Okay. Goodbye.

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