Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Wells Adams on Bachelor in Paradise & The Universe

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

America’s favorite bartender and pizza connoisseur, Wells Adams, is back on the pod today to recap this week’s dose of Bachelor in Paradise and share what he’s been up to, from his beautiful time on the beach to his wedding with the love of his life, Sarah Hyland. It only makes sense that the two dive into the moon, mushrooms, and the afterlife before they get into what we’re all here for: Bachelor Nation content and the juicy goss that comes along with it. Kaitlyn and Wells talk all about the current and past relationships on the beach, the timing and behind the scenes of Bachelor in Paradise filming, and spill some Bachelor Nation tea with Kermit Bristowe. Be sure to look out for their potential new show, Doing Mushrooms on the Golf Course (working title), hopefully coming to a streaming platform soon, and check out Wells’ actual show on Hulu, Best in Dough! Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: EHARMONY - Download the eharmony app and start free today! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to grape therapy. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now starting. And well, well, wells, what do we have here? God, I bet that joke never gets made. But honestly, you guys, I don't even know how to intro this guy anymore. I'll know him. You love him. What more can I say? I mean, he's the best little bartender, the beaches of Mexico, has ever seen. He's a pizza connoisseur, the second funniest person in Bachelor Nation. I'm not going to waste your time any longer because we're getting to Wells. Wells Adams, everybody. And the crowd goes wild. Woo. How are you? I'm good. Are you? You know what? I'm okay. I'll get into it. because I have questions of why I'm feeling the way I'm feeling. But, okay, actually, I'm just going to get into it now. How do people in Mexico not just get the shits and like puke the whole time on Paradise?

I feel like everyone goes to Mexico and everyone gets sick. I was just in Mexico for Cleo's wedding and people were dropping like flies. Yeah, it happens every season. Oh, it does? Oh, yeah. And you'll see like, well, there'll be episodes where like someone who's like big in the storyline just doesn't show up because they're in the bed shitting. entire time. Okay, that makes so much sense because every time people go to Mexico, every time I've gone to Mexico, everyone gets sick. And then I was thinking about it while I was there.

I'm like, and I'm watching Paradise being like, wait, these people are just on the beach eating, who knows what, and like drinking and like everyone always gets sick. And then I'm like, oh, it's supposed to be all romantic. But what we don't see is people probably shitting everywhere. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It happens every year. But the secret to it, like I've been in Mexico now enough to know it's the water, but it's not like the watery that you think it is. For the most part, I mean, Mexico, they use, like, filtered ice. Everyone's scared of, like, having drinks with ice in it. And that's really not the issue.

You really shouldn't eat salads in Mexico because they rinse the lettuce with just regular water. And that's how you get sick. So I would always just stay away from salads and then you'll be fine. Okay, I agree. So that's what I did this whole time I was in Mexico because that's what got me sick. The last time I was in Mexico was the salads. And so I'm like, I was sticking to the cheese, the carbs, the like everything cooked. And I was fine. But last night I got home and I was like, uh-oh. And I thought I was getting sick. But I woke up fine. So anyways, long story. You ask

how I am. I'm okay. All right. She got the runs. Got it. Okay. You got bubble guts over there. Just a little bit of butt puke. It's all good. Nothing to see here. So let's just get into it because every time I podcast with you, I end up talking and we end up talking for way too long. And I'm like, let's just get into it because I have a lot to get to. But you are just killing it over there. You marry the love of your life. You're hosting a show about pizza. Like, what the hell? Back on TV, serving the drinks and drama on the beach. So, like, are you just like, I'm where I want to be in life? This is good. I have arrived. No. I will never be satisfied with anything. Why? I think that's, honestly, I think that's like a, a creative.

to people who are successful who are like just never ever satisfied. I've always been like that too. So like before I did the Bachelor or any TV stuff I was a radio host and I remember I would set goals for myself and then once you get to those goals and it's like okay so now it's time

to rewrite it and figure out what the next thing is because if I was I would still be doing like a morning show in Nashville on the radio and be like totally happy but like I wouldn't be because I would be I feel stagnant, you know? I totally am with you on that. Every time I achieve something that I like wrote down on my vision board or every time I'm like, okay, great, but what's next?

I've arrived at that peak that I've been waiting for. And I'm like, is that a good thing? Am I motivated? Am I driven? Or am I just like really hard to please and nothing's ever enough for me? I think it's probably a combination of the two. I don't know. I always like the analogy of a shark.

Like you've got to keep on moving. If a shark stops and they die, you know? And I feel that way with like my career. And then also like my dad's getting older. And I'm always like, dad, you got to keep moving. Like you got to keep on playing golf and swimming and stuff. Like the moment you stop, it's like your body just stops, you know. So I fully believe that you got to keep on moving forward if you want to stay alive.

We're just a couple of sharks just trying to survive up here. Oh, I like that analogy. That is totally how I am. I think a lot of people are like that, though. Like Jason always talks about that with how he was like that in corporate America. And then he's like, oh, if only I could just work for myself. And now he works for himself. And he's like, well, I got to got here.

I got to get here. And I'm like, when are we ever going to arrive and be like, and maybe that's on our deathbeds? Maybe we arrive on our death beds. And we're like, holy shit, we did a lot. Yeah, I'm just worried about like afterlife. Like, am I going to like not be satiated when I'm in heaven or something? Like, is there going to, am I going to continue this? No.

That's the whole beauty. of the afterlife. I know, because I've, no, I'm just so into that stuff. But that's the beauty of the afterlife is that you're just so content. You've lived your life. You've done everything. And you're just like at so much peace. And you, unless you go to hell. But what's your theory on the afterlife? Well, my theory is that there is an afterlife. I don't know how I feel that you like come back as like a golden retriever or something or like a bird. I don't know. But I believe that after you die, your spirit lives on and you cross over and you like are able to look back at your whole life with just like so much compassion for yourself and you're just at peace and you get to see all

the people you want to see. This is like the only reason I believe this because I don't want to be depressed. Yeah. That's good. Why? What are your thoughts? Well, I was raised Catholic. I went to like 12 years of Catholic school and I've like I've definitely gone away from I think the traditional dogma of Catholicism but I do think like there are hints and bits and pieces of of that that's right and then bits and pieces that are like are very very wrong I have a I have a strong belief that we're all connected and like there is some sort of like source that we are all like connected to and then when we passed to the to the next side we're able to like reconnect with everything and so I always think about that in terms of and this is like a very like egocentric way

of looking at things but if we're all just one thing then like the person that is an asshole to you that's like you know they're giving you a parking ticket or something like that is also you as well so there's no point in being an asshole back to yourself you know oh and then I think that when you pass on, then you, you know, you reemerge with, like, everything. And then you get to experience, like, all the different lives that you've lived because you, you effectively live every possible life. I don't know if that makes any sense. No, wait.

I am so, I'm like, yes, nodding my head. I actually totally agree with that. And, wait, I just had a really, really important thought that just exited my brain because I've been met in Mexico for the last five days. And you got the shits. And I got the shit. And I'm drinking coffee. So I'm like, this is not a good combo.

One of the guys who got sick in Mexico, I saw him the next day. I'm like, how are you feeling? He goes, ah, a little bit better. I'm going to try and eat a little breakfast. I saw him. He ordered a fucking bean burrito. Hmm. Yeah.

So the last time I went to Mexico was, uh, no, the last time I went to Mexico and got sick was for Ben Higgins bachelor party. And so I can like loop it back for you. And yeah, exactly. Segway. Um, and so. I got, I like didn't drink the day beforehand and I was, I woke up in the middle of the night. I was sleeping the same bed with Dean and I felt so bad for him because like I went to the

bathroom like maybe like 30 to 40 times that night. Yeah. And then the next morning I was like not in a good place. Like I couldn't stand up straight. I was like hunched over the entire time. And like the shuttle was coming to take us and anyone's who ever been to Cabo gone, been into Petrigal. it's like that like the whole the house is on top of the hill and like the ride down the cobblestone street was just like you know like crazy and so I like somehow managed yeah I somehow managed like get in the car and I was like drinking a beer because I was like maybe this will help and it was so difficult and then this was like kind of in the midst of COVID so we get to the airport and you know like I have to like use a QR code and sign into something and I prove that like I've been vaccinated

and negative and all this kind of stuff and then finally I get through like security and someone like recognizes Ben and they all come up to us and like we take pictures and I was like oh I was like guys I'm not trying to be an asshole because I believe that we were all part of the same hole in the afterlife but I'm gonna die right now so then I get on the air eventually I get on the airplane and I fly home

and then you know going to LAX is like the biggest nightmare in the world like trying to get out of there and so finally I get home and so Sarah's like how was it And I was like, I know that this is showing off my privilege, but today was the hardest day of my life. It was the worst. I just like lived on a razor's edge of shitting and throwing up the entire time. Oh my gosh.

Wait, that was such a good tie in to both Pute Talk and afterlife. Good for you. It's like you were on the radio before. You were on the podcast. That is so funny because that's, I felt like that was so many people this weekend, just like living on the edge of like. Am I, I kept being like, am I anxious because I think I'm going to puke because everyone is puking or am I actually sick or am I hungover or am I like, I didn't know what it was.

But every single time in Mexico, wait, I need to talk about the fact when we were talking about the afterlife and getting all deep like that and you said something that really like stuck with me. I was in Mexico, obviously we've said that 10 times now. And I did mushrooms. Oh, you did. I did. And usually people, you know, like I've taken like one little capsule before. or been like, oh, I don't even think any, did anything for me. But this time I was like, I would like to experience what it feels like. It was with all these people I feel so comfortable and safe with like some of my bestest friends in the whole world.

You're in Mexico. It was the kind of the end of the wedding. So it wasn't like I was going to ruin being one of the bridesmaids and like do something crazy. And so I did. And an hour later, we were all back at the hotel lounge drinking and we were going to have a pool party. And I forgot I had taken them.

And I order a rosé. And I look at it and I'm like, oh, my God, I do not want to drink. And I was like, oh, no, am I sick? And then my whole body started feeling really hot. And then I was like, oh, what is this feeling? And I was very overwhelmed. And like, there's so many people and the music was loud. And then I was like, oh, shit, I'm high.

And so I looked at everybody that like kind of was seeing what was going on with me. And I said, if everybody could just have really calm energy right now, that would be great. And they're like, Caitlin, you're at a fucking after party in Mexico at Cleo's wedding. Like, nobody's going to be calm. So I walk down to the beach and laughing so hard at myself because I realize how crazy this is. And I'm looking at the moon. I'm talking to it. Well, I do that all the time anyways.

But the stars are like so bright and the waves are coming at me. And I was just like so happy. I feel like that's the time to do it is when you're just like, end of the night, go walk to the ocean. Get a little freaking high. But you got to have calm energy. Have you ever done mushrooms? Yeah. I went to college.

Oh. And yeah. I didn't, so. Yeah, no, so there's the same way. It's like all these like life experiences that like I had in the time of which you're supposed to have them, she like didn't have. And I'm always like, yeah, but you didn't go to like a frat part. Oh, yeah, you didn't go to.

That makes sense. One, I think like they're all, it's all going to be legal pretty soon anyway. It's going to be like marijuana was, whatever it was 10 years ago. And there's, I mean, there's, I've done like a lot of, there's a fantastic documentary called Fantastic Fungi that, is on Netflix that I highly suggest. And it's not just about, like, psilocybin and magic mushrooms. It's just really kind of like the benefits of mushrooms, which is a, it's really interesting.

Like, one, it's this huge ecosystem beneath the ground that, like, we can't see, but it's like the largest thing on the planet. And it's also the thing that, like, kills every, like, once everything, something dies, like, breaks it all down. But it's also, then also, like, gives the opportunity for things to grow back up. And then a lot of trees are able to communicate with one. through the mycelium, I think is what it's called. So it's like a very interesting plant or whatever fungus. But yeah, I've done it. And, you know, all the guys in Silicon Valley were doing microdoses for a long time

because they saw the health benefits of it. And they've been seeing like a lot of health benefits for people who have like experienced crazy trauma and stuff because it can kind of rewire your brain, which is very interesting. But the one thing that I've always come across and it's going back to like your thing about energy. I think everyone kind of like, regular, like lives their life at like a certain frequency and, uh, and, and vibration. I think that's like where like the good vibes only thing comes from. And it's just really turned up when you are on mushrooms where you can, um, feel someone's vibration or their energy. And that's why you're like, I need you to be like a certain

type of energy right now. Because I need you to, I need to match my energy with yours and stuff. Which I think it's really funny because we don't normally notice it. But it's funny. We, uh, We just filmed the Bachelor in Paradise after show the other day. And so Sarah came to like the press thing that we had to do afterwards. So she got to meet the cast and we were talking about Rodney. And she was describing Rodney to her publicist because we were like going to her thing. And she was like, he's just such a nice guy. And I was like, no, he vibrates on such a positive frequency that everyone feels it.

And it's so funny because like the end, you watch this last episode, everyone wants Eliza to pick Rodney it's because Rodney just puts off such good vibes you know and and I think it's just a weird thing that we all like can tap in on but we don't really have the vocabulary to explain it until you are like just can blown off your mind on mushroom

it was all about that energy about what I needed to be around what level I need to be on because my frequency was so high that it was like overwhelmingly positive and I am like such a negative Nancy and glass half empty kind of bitch a lot of times and to feel that happy or on that like

that vibe that vibration I was like I wonder if this is what it feels like to be Rodney yeah I'm super glad I had no idea that I was going on Joe Rogan's podcast today but this is fun that this is what we're talking about yeah buckle up because I've got you for the next three hours okay

yeah but no like if you watch that that fantastic fun guy documentary it's really interesting because the whole thing is we get so consumed in our like daily routine. And our brains work the same way where like we just have like a regular neuropathways that like are always firing. And the thing that I guess that like psychedelics do, but then also other stuff like breathing techniques.

Like I don't know if you're like big into like the Winhoff breathing stuff. You can do it that way. Yes, I've just recently been getting into it. Yes. Or you can do it with like cold plunges or. ice bass and stuff. I did that three times in Mexico. Yep.

Yeah. And so it's one of those things where like it makes you do something that like you don't normally do and then it burns new neuropathways in your brain. And that's why they think that it's really good for people who have who have suffered from like serious trauma because it's able to like kind of like move your thoughts away from the normal trauma that you're kind of always experienced. Which usually takes like 20 years of therapy. Yeah.

And so it's, it is interesting because. you know, so many people are doing that like ayahuasca and going on these spiritual journeys. And it's like, I had somebody that was talking about how they did it. And they were like, it was what 12 years of therapy couldn't do for me. And it really does like rewire your brain. Now, I'm going to go watch that documentary. I also were going to switch gears into your show about pizza because I messaged you while I was watching it. It's just so well done. It was so perfect. It was so funny. And, And the way you guys did it was really different from other, you know, like just kind of cooking shows or whatever. Like I love how you did that whole like, you know, breaking down the fourth wall or you like showed the camera guys or a little behind the scenes moments. How did you get that show? Because I want to pitch a show called Caitlin goes back to college. Speaking of that, I think it would be hilarious to go get like my business degree and also like live my college days because I never got to. So I was like, how did Wells get that show? Did you like go pitch or did it come to you or have you been thinking about this? Like, how did you do it?

Because I've talked to you before where I'm like, Wells, we need a show. You're like, well, you live in Nashville, bitch. But, okay. No, I auditioned for it. You did. Yeah. It came to me and it was like the how it happened was hilarious. I was in South Africa, like on a photography safari with my brother for his 50th birthday.

And my manager hit me up and who's like, hey, so I got a cooking show for you. you need to do a chem read like today and I was like I'm nine hours ahead and like I don't know okay I can try it so chemistry test is like when you like meet up with the people who are also on the show and just to see like what your vibe is with them and so yeah I did it in Africa and they're like can you get like a piece of pizzas you can be trying pizza and like tell us what you think and I was like I'm in the middle the bush right now. So I had like some like weird like warthog patty that they like try to figure out like they're like like, can you put cheese on something?

Can you like cut it in a triangle and put cheese on it? So I, that's how I, that's how I auditioned for it. And then yeah, we came back and did it. And yeah, it was a, the show is called Best and Doe. And it's honestly like was the most fun I've, I've ever had working on a show. I'm sure it doesn't probably please a lot of producers at, you know, Warner Horizon, but it's your show.

For sure. And it was just like, I mean, like, what's great about Paradise is like the unknown, like anything can happen. And it was really nice to do a show like it was like, okay, you come to set. We're going to do hair makeup, go record your intro, record your outro, record some pickups from yesterday. Like, you know, it was like very

regimented where we got like a groove really quickly. But yeah, like they, we filmed 10 episodes in 10 days, which was amazing. And they paid me to fucking eat pizza every day. Like, I know. Suckers. I can't believe you did that.

I told you. I feel like you manifested this. I feel like you just thought like what is like what is the most ideal job in the world? Bartending on paradise and eating pizza for money. Yeah, I know. I got to figure what's the next one. It's got to be like a golf show or something dorky thing like that, you know? Yeah, no.

But it was it was a lot of fun. And it's, I'm super. super critical of my work. And this was one of the first times where I was like I'm really proud of this. It's a good show. It's not mean to be like there. There's a lot of cooking shows out there where like I love like Gordon Ramsey stuff. But like it gets mean, you know? The show's not like that. It's like

very positive, very silly. Because it's pizza. You know, can't take it too seriously. But you learn a lot. Yeah, it's great. So yeah, I implore you if you haven't if you haven't watched it. Go it's on Hulu. and there's 10 episodes are like 25 minutes long. It's great like going to bed TV because... No, it's great waking up TV,

middle of the day TV. I really actually enjoyed it wells. Like I was like, I don't know what the like I wanted to watch and support and I was like, wait, this is really well done and really funny.

And I feel like, well, I don't know if you put this in your contract for this season because we all wanted more wells on Paradise, which we are getting, which is nice.

But I feel like we all felt that way so much in Paradise that was like now we got more Wells eating pizza and it's like your same humor and it really is this feel good show but again I just it was really well done and I'm glad you're proud of yourself because it was freaking awesome I think we can all agree that there's nothing like finding someone you can be fully yourself around someone who appreciates it celebrates all the passions quirks vulnerabilities that make you who you truly are someone who really gets you well e-harmonie has

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I thought like maybe you were gone for a long time. time filming. But I mean, because you guys are a part a lot, and I feel that because Jason and I are apart a lot, do you guys find it really hard? Or do you actually enjoy being away and then missing each other and coming back and like both just having your own, you know, established careers and then coming back to each other? Well, she went and filmed Bumper in Berlin, which is like a side project of pitch perfect with Adam Devine. That looks so good. It's coming out very soon. It's on Peacock. Everyone should go watch it. And I've seen the whole thing. And she's so good.

Like, she's amazing. It's everyone, everyone thinks of Sarah as like this, like really funny, you know, like modern family chick, but like really she was a Broadway star and like. Oh, she's so talented. It's stupid. It's so evident how good of a singer she is in comparison to everybody else. Who's a very good singer? Right.

So it's going to be a great show. Okay. I tell you that story to tell you this one is that it took a long time to film in Berlin. And it was the first time where I was like, okay, it's time. for you to come home now. It was like, it was like three and a half months. It was a,

it was a really long time. So yeah, like it's tough. I mean, we've been blessed because Mexico, like, Paradise is only a month shoot.

So that's really not that bad. And then the majority of the work that she's done has really kind of just been in town. But yeah, when, when we go away from one another, it's a bummer,

but we like FaceTime every night. And also, like, I think that we know, when you're doing something that, like, means something to you, you're generally happy or whatnot. It'll be one thing if we were doing something that I think we didn't like, then it would be depressing, you know? Yeah. But if you're feeling fulfilled and, um, and having, like, having joy with what you're creating, then, then we're great. Um, so yeah, it's, it's been tough, but like, not too bad. I get that. That makes a lot of sense. I feel that same way. Like, it's, it is one thing.

If you were, like, having to go, she's doing things that she's always dreamt of doing. You're doing things you've dreamt of doing. So when you're doing them and you're away, it's really, really hard and challenging. But at the same time, you're like, but I'm also happy. And then you come back together and you're like, we're doing what we love. And you guys are so cute. Like when you were talking last night on the episode about how when you like knew and you, like, you just had this feeling and you knew. And that, I was like, that is so sweet because you guys, your wedding, I'm telling you, I've never seen anything like it.

The everything about the way you two were looking at each other, speaking to each other, the people around you, like, everything about that day, I was like, that is what dreams are made up. That was a 10 out of 10 wedding, in my opinion, from start to finish. And actually, so was Cleo's. I did tell her that. It really was. The way you respect each other is so apparent and the love you two have for each other. It's like magic. Like, it's magical to watch. And I know we obviously only see like a lot of the good. But like it's just you can really tell that. you to have this really authentic love for each other. And it's really cute. Oh, thank you. Yeah, it was, uh, we were, when we were in the wed, like, while we were doing the wedding, Sarah and I both looked to each other and go, man, I wish we got invited to this thing. It looks like a lot of fun. Like everyone's, so glad I made the cut. Yeah. A lot of people gave me a lot of crap for not making the cut, but let me tell you something. You know, me paradise seasons I got to do to pay for this thing. It's going to be a while. It's true. It's true. You had to, but I was just dying because, and I think I told you this, I'm just sitting

around looking, I was like at a table of like five of my ex-boyfriends. I'm like, this Bachelor Nation is so weird because I get along with all of them. There's not one I don't get along with. I know we're talking about what's next because you're like, I'm crushing it. I'm doing this. What's next? Would you ever give acting a try? So funny.

When we went up to do, I went out to New York to do Upfronts for both the best and Doe and for Bachelor in Paradise. Upfront is like, they send all the people who are on television shows to, to go kind of like schmooze the advertisers to like buy ads. So I had to go do it for Disney ABC and Sarah had to come go do it for Peacock. She was doing

Bumper in Berlin and then also Love Island. Right. And so we were around a bunch, it's a bunch of like hot shots you know and like heads of studio and they were like, would you ever act? And I was like, no, I am not an actor. I cannot remember, I cannot memorize lines to save my life.

And I'm sure if I worked on it, I could. But I was like, that's not my thing. My thing is, like, understanding kind of what the idea of the scene is, and then let me just go be me doing that. So if you want to hire me as an actor to go be me, great. I can go do that all day long. Totally. But, like, it's such a different skill set that I, that I don't know if I have.

And then when we were in the car the other day with, like, her agent, she was like, are you sure you don't want to be an actor? And I was like, yes. And also, I don't think Sarah wants me to be an actor. Because I'd have to go do, like, those, like, shitty, like, if I, ever got a part. Like a Christmas movie? Yeah, it would be like a life. Not even that. Not even that. It would be like a bad horror movie or something. Like it wouldn't be good. And I'd, and she'd have to support me and be like, it's so good. And I'd be like, no, it's not. Don't lie. That's true. Yeah, you're just like at this point in your lives, you're like, let's just stick to what we're good at. Yeah. I totally agree. I could never. People have asked me that too before. I don't know why that's a question for people who come off reality television. Like, would you ever get into. acting. I'm always like, absolutely not. Like, I don't, it is so easy to be myself and not act like somebody else. But like if, even for like a commercial, you know how we have to do like commercials for

like, you know, ABC will hire us for a commercial or something. Like, they're like, Caitlin, just, uh, you know, take a sip of your wine. And I like all of a sudden like what I normally do, but I'm like, eh, uh, like I can't do it because someone's telling me how to act. But don't tell me you don't know how to act because that skit that you were doing in paradise with the wig and, like, the um sally's suitcase like i would put you up for an oscar that was like a drunk history rip off like i didn't have to learn like we had to learn lines like they play they would be like okay so this is what she says and then would play the thing and then i would just like parrot it back it wasn't wait did sally ever come to the beach yeah she comes for like one night and then

she finds out that everyone went uh through her suitcase and that they brought up her ex and she like flips out and then leaves there's no way that was her suitcase so the suitcase was there longer yeah i mean we all know that's not her suitcase because otherwise those girls would be in big trouble yeah okay so i i'd maybe like to clean up some things with batser nation because i do feel like maybe batser nation needs to can chill out for a second okay one she didn't come to paradise but like there was there was there was a lot of truth to what happened she did put her bag through security okay it was on the plane it did come to mexico there was a handler that was like there waiting for her yeah and like had to get the luggage you know yeah now was that her suitcase

probably not there was a there was a vibrator in there was a like a waffle iron there was like hair like obviously it was like kind of played up and then right the whole place of doing the like the drunk history of reenactment was to show like how stupid this is like how come on like it's this is a bit this is a big bit clearly a bit it's it's rooted in like some a little bit of reality but like for the most part like you have to understand this is a comedy like it opens up as a comedy like you you know from the beginning credits that this is a silly show and then everyone's like you're so me i can't believe you went through the suitcase it's like, are you serious?

Like, are you dead? Like, the other thing that's happening a lot right now is like, I always see, like, producers are so terrible. They're just making everyone, they just are having people date who they want in the date. And they're just bringing in people who they like and they're having, they're only bringing in people who like the other people. And it's like, what the fuck are you talk?

Of course. Of course we know who likes who. Because if they didn't like. the people on the beach, there would be no show. Are you, I think I'm taking crazy pills over here. It makes no, like, of course, like the whole mission statement of the show is that people maybe get engaged. And if you did a show where you were like, I don't know if anyone likes anybody who would

be like the worst season ever. I know. I know. I always laugh because it's like you just, you can't do anything right or wrong. Yeah. And it's like they almost know, like, I feel like Bachelor Nation, I love how loyal they are and passionate, but like, I think they almost know that like what they're watching is so silly and, and they love it. But then they take it so seriously that it's like contradicting. And like you're like, you know what you're watching is silly yet you can't sit back and laugh with us.

Yeah. It's total. Like I'm in, I'm in a like flight attendant outfit. I've got like a bad gray wig on like I'm pretending to be like some crazy guy holding a plunger like you have to see that and be like you know I don't think that they're being serious

I know like just laugh with us it's the same thing with you know people were really upset with Michael A and thinking it was all calculated for waiting for Danielle to come to the beach. But my thought process is, isn't that okay? Like, isn't that okay to explore a relationship and just be like, actually, I'm not ready. I don't feel ready. And then you find someone that you're like, wait, this is what I've been wanting. Like, why are people so

upset at like maybe people having an agenda in paradise? The whole Michael A. Danielle Sierra thing has made very little sense to me, like why people are upset. Like, first of all, he broke up with Sierra before the rose ceremony and everyone's like Michael should have gone home and it's like well first of all that was Sierra's choice to leave she could have stayed there but Michael also knew that he was going to go home like the whole

night he was doing his like goodbye apology tour to everyone because he had no prospects he had no rose so he effectively was like sending himself home but he was I think he was just like I want to hang out a little bit longer and you know say goodbye to everyone and all this kind of stuff and the other thing is that he

gave her a rose the first rose ceremony. He never accepted one. So he never really let her on in the way that other people do. And it's funny because the exact same thing happens to Rodney. Rodney, you know, is in this relationship with Lace and then, you know, waits for someone else to come in and then breaks up with her, effectively leading her on a little bit. And no one gave Rodney crap for doing what he did to Lace. And it doesn't, it doesn't make any sense to me. And the truth of the matter is, is that. that there's a big difference between everyone on the beach and Michael. Michael is 38 years old.

He has a kid. He has a really tough past. Like the stakes for him are astronomically more intense than everyone else's. You know, like, oh, yeah, you sell real estate or you're a trainer at Equinox. We are not the, this is not apples and apples here. Like, it's a completely different thing. And I think, and I can't, I won't speak from Michael, but this is what I think.

I think that Michael realized that Sierra wasn't what he needed right now. And I think that he tried to figure out a way to explain that to her in a way that she would understand. Like, we're just not there yet. I'm not feeling it. Like grief is still an issue for me. And I think he was trying to figure out a way to, like, explain it in a nice way. And then you have someone like Danielle, who is older. She's in her 30s.

She has also experienced loss similar to Michael. Like, it just makes more sense. And for people to be so angry about it, it's like, I'm so confused. I thought everyone, I thought that everyone wants everyone to find love and happiness. And then we present it and then people are upset. And that, that bums me out. know? And also, also, let's just please not forget, we, we were four and a half days in to film it. Like, that's the thing that I was going to ask that. You'd like, what, what? Like, we are

maybe five, maybe five days in filming. Right. And so why? So are we going to see that being addressed on the reunion show? Like, because I feel like Sierra was quite upset about it. But instead of like, I don't know if she talked to Michael on the side. I feel like she was doing it on social media and then waiting for the reunion. But that's what I wanted to ask her if I had the opportunity. I want to say, like, are you not rooting for Michael to find love? Or like, I don't really understand what he did wrong, but I understand if her feelings were hurt. But I just feel like the way she's going about it is a little bit like, are you just looking for a little attention here?

Because I get that too. Yeah. I don't know. My thing is, is like, so the plan is to like make the guy whose wife passed away, like, feel bad. I don't understand. I don't understand that either. To me, that doesn't play. Yeah. And, like, going back to, like, my original thought of, like, if we're all connected in some, like, weird, like, tree of life thing, like, I just don't. I honestly, I think that Michael came at it from trying to be protective of Sierra's feelings. I think that's true. And then,

you know what? I think he might have said the wrong things, but I do think he was coming from a good place. Yeah. And it makes no sense for me. for people to be like angry about it, you know? I know, especially, I do think that helps to give the context of the fact that it was like day four or maybe five. Yeah. Because in overall, like if we've seen so much, we've seen people come in, come out, breakups falling in love, separations, coming back together, new people coming in,

like challenging the relationships. Is this all over three weeks or four? That's basically four, I guess. But the way it's broken down is, is, you know, like when, when the, when the cast talks about like this week or like next week, they're thinking about it in terms of the weeks are ending at rose ceremonies. So you remember when you were the bachelor's,

like generally weeks are like three or four days long. Yes. Right. Yeah. And then how many hours do you, because I remember talking to you about this years ago, you're like, no, this is like legit job for me.

Like you had to like be a bar back, bartender. You're like putting in the hours. How many hours do you work on the beach? It just, it really depends. But like, I did a lot of night shoots this year, which I did last year as well

which is I think them trying to be nice to me because it's so hot and there's like no airflow in that bar I didn't think about that so it's generally like hey we need you on set at 9.30 let's say at the night

and then I'll usually around like three or four be like in my microphone can I go home now it's late no one's talking to me like what am I doing here and then they'll be like oh you're still here

Yeah, get the fuck out of here. Like, what are you doing? That happens a lot that they forget about me. Really? Well, yeah, there's a lot of people to control, I guess, over there. But, and then do you know who's coming, like, do you get surprised when you see people walking down the steps? Or do you know because you kind of have to be on the same page when you go in? Because you're not there all day, every day. So do you know going in, like, who's on the beach, who's arrived, or is it a surprise to you?

I don't know who's coming and, like, when they're coming. I generally will have, like, a meeting with production to be, like, like, so, and especially this season was, it was important because the Rachel and Gabby's season hadn't aired yet. So I didn't have an opportunity to, like, have a sense of who these people were, you know? So a lot of times they'll, like, give me a dossier of like, these are people who might show up. And this is kind of like their, their schick or like what they're known for or whatnot, you know? Right. Like, I remember Logan was, it was like, Logan is the villain because he went back and forth between Rachel and Gabby.

And I was like, oh, okay. And then I met him and I was like, you don't seem like a villain, really. You're like, wait, he's the villain. Can he even work out at Equinoff? Yeah, exactly. Do you have an orange like Hyundai Allantra? Like, what is happening here?

You're like, God of the days of like the Chads of the world being like a bad guy, you know? Like Chad was like, you meet him in real life. And you're like, yeah, you are the villain. Now Logan, you're like, that's a stretch. Yeah. Exactly. But yeah, so I don't really know who's coming in. And then also, like, I have a relationship with people who have been on the show in the past. So, you know, like, someone will DM me being like, hey, I'll see you in a little bit.

Like, Lace, like, hit me up and was like, I'm going to see you. You need to, like, protect me and, like, be nice to me and, like, give me a good advice. It's like, of course, Lace, I'm going to. Hey, Friday Night Lights fans. It's not only football Friday Night Lights and Beyond is an episode by episode discussion of the hit TV series Friday Night Lights, hosted by yours truly Scott Porter, who played Jason Street on the show, and my two wonderful co-hosts. Me, Zach Guilford, aka Matt Saracen.

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Or I think I do, but I want to ask, and I feel like a lot of people want to know. When someone is brought to Paradise and then they walk down the steps, do they know how many days the others have been there for? Or could they come in and, like, think it's day one and then find out it's day 10? Like, are they just sitting in a hotel waiting? I, yes. I think that they have an idea of when everything's supposed to start. So they'll know if, like, they're coming in super late or not. Yeah.

And I imagine, I don't know this, but I imagine they're like, so you're coming, like, Jess usually says, like, you're coming in a little bit late. So you got some work, you know, you gotta make up some time or whatnot. Yeah. But yeah. I don't know. Like, I've heard horror stories of, like, people coming in, like, to the hotel day one. Like, don't come on the beach until, like, day 20.

I'm like, Jesus Christ, I would, and that would be just so much hotel room service. Just sitting in your room. Oh, so much room service and so much like plotting in your head and then just like overthinking all to probably go in and be like, okay, everybody's almost married by. Like that's, I just feel like that would be a little bit of torture. But I guess that's what you, you kind of know going in like potentially you could be sitting in a hotel. Like it's not like they're like, like they give you a warning that you could be going in later. Yeah, but then also, maybe I'm wrong, because when I was on the show as a cast member, I came in like basically with three episodes. I was like at the end, basically. And I don't even remember that.

Yeah, and I didn't fly out until two days before I went on the beach. So I think that, yeah, there's probably- Who did you vibe with on Paradise when you went on? Nobody, but I went on three dates in four days. I had two rose ceremonies and three dates in five days or something. Oh, how impressive. I took. It was my audition to be The Bachelor, and I failed that.

And you fucking blew it. But I made out with everybody. So that was cool. I remember those days. When they split, they did the whole split thing that they've never done. How long were they actually split for? And did you know that was happening? I had been told that we are going to split everybody up.

and the boys would be sticking around. That was kind of like the extent of everything that I knew. Okay. And I want to say it was like four days. It's funny because they do it on Sarah's show on Love Island, and it's called Casa Amor. And everyone's like, I said, the internet is like,

this is, this is, this is Love Island, what are you doing? It's like, yeah, well, Levin's Stole Batser Paradise Idea originally. So true. What are you talking about? Everyone's stealing everything. I'll never forget that. Welles, actually, you told me something because I thought I was so genius that I came up with this idea to have people confess to me. and then I heard somebody do it on a radio show. You're like, Caitlin, everyone just steals everything from everyone.

And then it's like radio, TV, like, let's call it, like maybe let's call it being inspired by others instead of stealing it because that's just what, like, look at TikTok. You go viral from copying other people's shit all the time. Yeah, it's very true. But, uh, yes, I think, I think that like for Sarah's show, I think it's only like one day and like of the sadists that the paradise is, it was like four or five. And it was, like, watching a back is hilarious, like, the juxtaposition between the guys having the best time and the girls, like, just. I freaking love dudes. They're like playing sharks and minnows and, like, teaching each other how to swim and being like, hey, we had a great time. And the girls are just, like, so emotional.

That's why I love, like, I love, like, women's emotions and, like, they just are, like, so in it. And I love how just, like, oblivious guys are to shit sometimes. it's so funny and I have to talk about the drama.com between Kate and Logan because that whole thing of I didn't know where they were going to go with the Kate and Logan thing because I kind of saw her playing games with him the same way I felt like Eliza kind of did but then she got herself in that shit storm but like Kate I found like I don't understand when women do this or men doesn't matter the gender but like there's this therapy pod that we listened to that they were talking about how one really important thing that couples should try to do is. just actually tell the other person what they want and need. Like it doesn't make it like, you know, they were expecting them to mind read. Kate, Kate wanted Logan to be like, no, don't go on the date. And she was like waiting for him to just read her mind where I'm like, just say it. Just say like, hey, I don't want to.

I would if you don't care. But like if you do care, I'm not going to go. And he could have just been like, oh, I do care. And like, I guess he kind of played games too because he's like, well, I don't want her to think this. But why can't they just say to each other this is what I want? Yeah, there's a part of me that thinks. that it's a really convenient excuse to go on a date and put the blame on somebody else. Yeah.

Like for the Eliza and Rodney, like, I think that Eliza wanted to go on the date with Justin. And I think it was. And I think it was easier to be like, you didn't tell me not to go. And it's your fault. And it's like, well, that's really not fair. And then for like Rodney, it's like, well, the reason why you guys are, the reason why we're together is because I went on a date. you while I was dating somebody else.

So I would be a hypocrite if I said, you can't do what I did. Yeah. And yeah, so, and, and the same, the Kate thing was, it was the same thing. Like, Logan was with Chenet before that. And, but I agree with you. Like, I do think that, well, with Kate, it's funny because, like, she's now, like, super hung up on his career and his ambitions, I suppose.

in comparison to her own and then not being on the same level. Yeah. Which I totally get. But one, I think Kate should have explained that to him early on to, like, set very, like, understandable guidelines for their relationship going forward because it was a little bit of like he seems a little blindsided. But I love the hypocrisy of it all because what Kate doesn't like about. about him is because that he isn't established. He's not working, making a bunch of money to be able to support her. And she is doing that, which is super awesome.

But what she wants from him is to make a bunch of money so she doesn't have to work anymore. And so she's just like, I just want your life and you have to have mine. Like that's the whole like the problem that they're having. So hypocritical. I was just like, I understand like if I'm trying to look at it from like a a different perspective. Like what I watch, I'm going, oh my God, shut up. But if I like take a step back and try and understand, I get wanting to have like, you know, you're 33. You want someone established. You don't want someone that's living with two roommates. And like, but certain things she was

saying, like her delivery was just so shit on certain things like, he can't afford Equinox and like that kind of thing. I'm like, and then to only like somebody for their career or that they have six figures laying around to pay for a dog. Like to me, I'm like, you can have both. And you know you can like find someone that you actually are attracted to like it's like she she's like oh i have to leave with someone on this beach or like stay for five more days instead of just being like maybe actually they're both not for me does she just want to like stay on the beach is that the whole thing i don't know i i don't know i can't speak for her but uh the whole like equinox thing is it's so mean but so funny like hilarious it's hilarious but

And her going to like every girl and telling them like that stuff and like kind of repeating her story is hilarious. And the other thing that I love is that I'm always amazed that they're so like willing to be to say what they think while they're putting on their makeup. Yeah. They're like, they're so vulnerable in the makeup time. They have like no idea that there's cameras around them. It's like of course like the place where everyone is the most like gossipy is at like the hairdress. like so of course of course like you like I'm amazed that like they got such amazing sound bites for them putting their makeup on it was what did she kept saying about like sister Christ I'm 33

or like something like that I was like oh my gosh this is amazing like I just always it was the sound bites that they got were just incredible and it was so funny because I love when you catch things that like aren't you know like you don't know you're on TV you don't know what you're saying like it's just like the behind the scenes moments that we all really want to see and we got so much of that last night where it was just comical and really fucking mean yeah the editing is amazing on the show how the show hasn't won an emmy for editing i will never understand because it is so good it's better than any other tv show out there can now last thing before i let you go we're going to we're going to spill the tea with kermit bristow over

here. Oh, hi, hello there. This is Krimanee Frog. And for my listeners who, like, don't want any spoilers or anything, feel free to skip over this. But, like, did Gabby and Eric actually announce a split-up, or is this speculation? Yeah, I have no idea. I see it on Instagram.

So I'm like, well, I guess it must be. She's not wearing her ring during dancing with the stars. I mean, I'm, yeah. I feel like she, like, kind of touched on it, but she didn't. I didn't know if you knew any more than I did because I did like a Q&A on my Instagram and somebody was like, how do you feel about Gabby and Eric splitting? And I was like, oh, it's really sad. Maybe they weren't compatible.

Like going on Dancing with the Stars right after a really tough show would be like a recipe for a disaster. And then everyone's like, oh, you just confirmed their breakup. I was like, wait, shit, I don't know. I didn't know. I just heard it on Instagram. So I don't know if you knew any more than I did. No, I don't really know anything.

But I wish those two crazy kids, nothing but the best. And if they are broken up, I hope you guys are available in June of 2023. Is that Paradise? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Okay.

And then not really super hot tea, more lukewarm, but Peter and Kelly back together. Now, the issue with that for me is how much shit they both spoke about each other. And I'm like, that's out there forever. And now you're back together. I'm confused. Yeah, I don't know. Why do all these idiots have to keep on dating each other? from the show. I don't understand. There are other people. You're like level up,

go to someone on like a huge TV show like modern family. Yeah, exactly. Level the F up. No, I, listen, I get it because I think I've gotten that question a lot of like, why do you, why would do that, why is it so like incessual? Like, why does Batchar Nation interdate or whatnot? And it makes a lot of sense. You get thrusts me this thing that no one really can relate to unless you've done it. And then you also all of a sudden are like, have like a weird amount of attention that you weren't used to in the past. And the people that you were friends with aren't really used to that experience of like going out. So then you come across these other people who are kind of like used to it. And then there's like a sense of

comfort with all of it. And so I gave everyone kind of like a pass with all of it. Like I totally understand. It's a weird scenario. And there's a comfort level. but you're right like the like they did talk a lot of shit about one another and uh it's going to be weird like a thanksgiving i guess uh thanksgiving is always weird but that makes it a little more weird and then you were obviously staying with dean for ben's bachelor you guys are like really tight did you know he was going to propose and like has he been waiting i guess this is probably his story to tell but like did you know he was going to propose yeah i did i think i think he had it uh planned for a good bit i think oh that's And also, for my brother's birthday, we all went to Palm Springs and Dean and Kalin came as well. And he was telling us how he had lost the ring. And we were like, so here's the thing with Dean. Like, Dean is hilarious because he will, he'll lie to you to see like the kind of response she'll get.

And we were like, you're lying. You're lying. You didn't lose a four-carat ring or whatnot. And he was like, no, I didn't. And we're like, no, you didn't. And so I saw like some article that was like, he lost the ring. I was like, no way that was true. You're like, oh, my God, it was confirmed.

No way. So how did he find it? Or did he just get a new one? I don't know if he's found it yet. Yeah. We went to Costco to get like food for the, for like the half, like the weekend that we were in Palm Springs. And we went by the jewelry aisle. And I were like, you should just buy a ring here at Costco.

So you got something. That's not a bad idea. Oh my gosh. I'm going to try and get them on my pod. I need answers to that one. That's so funny. You can, I actually think it's hilarious that you can buy a ring at Costco, though. You can, like, this is the most random pivot ever, but do you believe in a Ouija board?

Well, Sarah, who's like kind of like into that whole witchy stuff says that they're, that very, you should not use Wii G boards. They're very, very bad. But how can, how can you just like pick up a spirit? a nasty spirit at like a Toys or Us. Yeah, I don't know. Sarah, explain something to us. Yeah, I want to know. Is it like, because maybe it's the people that want to buy it are the ones that have that in them to tap into it.

So it's like, is it actually just the Ouija board or is it the like, I don't know. It just seems like I believe in spirits and I believe in that crazy shit. But I think it's the people using the Ouija board that have the powers, not the board. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, okay. Well, that's my last really deep thought for the podcast. My takeaways from this podcast is that we need to have our own show called doing mushrooms on the golf course because you want to do a show about golf. I'm like, how can I?

I just want to make TV with you all the time. I'm always like, well, can we just do something? Can we have our own morning show? What do you want to do? Let's go do it. Let's go pitch it. I really do. Please can I go back to college and you could like show me the ways.

So, like, you're like, it's like Van Wilder, I feel like. Like, you can't graduate. You're just stuck there. Yes. And yeah, maybe I can be like the, um, the R.A on the dorm floor. Yes. Or like Billy Madison. Like I go back and I finish all my school grades and, oh my gosh, that's what it is.

I go back to school. You just come up with that idea right now, Caitlin? Yeah, I did. Oh, it's pretty good. Yeah. I like it. okay sold well congrats on everything uh you are just crushing and i know you'll continue to so whatever whatever you manifest or put out there or want to do like if you can think of like i want to

host a pizza show and you do it you can do anything so i'm excited to see what you do next well i think that's true for everybody by the way like manifesting yeah like i think the universe is is like the future is never set and if you put in out into the universe what you want to have happen the universe is like well it's easier to go this way because he's thinking about or talking about it rather than not do it you know i've thought that for a long time so yeah everyone can manifest whatever they want i love that you said that i'm like the biggest believer in that and like like i laugh that i was talking to the moon on mushrooms but like i talk to the moon all the time because I like think of it as the universe and that's what what I've like people believe

in God. I believe in like the universe as being a God and I true like you know people believe so much in the power of prayer and I'm like that's the same thing with manifesting. And I feel like if we all just like truly believe in the power of putting it out there and writing it down and thinking about it like I everything that's happened to my life has been manifested. So I'm like that we could all do it. Yeah. I'm with you. Everybody went to church today. That's right. Man, it's been a journey. We started off talking about diarrhea.

Then we got into psychedelics. Then we got into afterlife. Then we got into some real heavy shit with The Bachelor. And then we come full circle with manifestation. Oh my gosh. You're the best. Thank you so much. I know I've been trying to do this with you for a while.

And we're both busy peeps. So always good talking to you. And yeah, if there's anything else I miss that you want to throw out there? And as a chance. Oh, my podcast with Brandy Cyrus, your favorite thing, YFT podcast. You can listen to it. Wherever the hell you're listening to this one, you listen to that one. That'll be much appreciated.

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