Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Haley Kalil | From Sports Illustrated to the Fake Billionaire Boyfriend & Her Close Call with Cancellation!

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

#827. Haley Kalil, aka @haleyybaylee, is sitting down with Kaitlyn to share her incredible journey. From winning Miss Minnesota to being scouted by Sports Illustrated, Haley shares how her pa...geant days and science background helped her crack the code on going viral. She opens up about her funniest celeb encounters (hi, Angelina Jolie 👀), the wild story behind her “Billionaire Boyfriend” series, and the moment she almost got canceled. Plus, she spills her most embarrassing story—featuring two Marks (Zuckerberg & Cuban). Don’t miss it!If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE!Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals!Covergirl: Superboost your lashes with NEW Lash Blast Supercloud Mascara from COVERGIRL! Clump-free, smudge-free, and lasts up to 24 hours—perfect for any look! Only from Easy, Breezy, Beautiful COVERGIRL.Apartments.com: The place to find a pet friendly place!Audible: Go to Audible.com/Chrissypodcast or wherever you get your podcasts and start listening today.Boll & Branch: Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com promo code VINE15.Dime Beauty: Revive your skin and give yourself a routine refresh you deserve! Go to DIMEBeautyCO.com today.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:9:18 – How Haley got scouted by Sports Illustrated through Instagram.20:51 – The story behind her "billionaire boyfriend" character.40:26 – The moment Haley almost got canceled at the Met Gala.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:04 And Dime Beauty. Revive your skin and give yourself a routine refresh that you deserve. Go to Dime Beauty-C-O.com today. You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Hey, everybody, welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. And today we have the hilarious Haley Bailey, as you would. know her on all of her socials. She is not only a stunning model who's done Sports Illustrated
Starting point is 00:01:33 and Miss America and all of the things in New York Fashion Week, but she's also a scientist and a digital creator with over 27 million followers. We talk all about how she comes up with her viral ideas, how she studies the algorithm and makes it work. And she's just overall, cute, funny little gal. Okay, first of all, I love that you grew up in the Midwest. There's something about Midwest, Midwestern people that remind me of Canadians. The accents. A little bit. No, it's Spoon. Spoon? Spoon. Is that how you say it? Mm-hmm. Oh, did you watch the season of Love is Blind? Yes. Did you know anybody? Yes, it was all Minneapolis. I didn't know anybody. I didn't know anybody. I think they were like one, a couple grades younger than me. Oh, I'm going to age myself. I mean, they were so much older than it.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So, no, I didn't know anyone, but I knew people who knew people. Yeah. This was the first season I watched were on TikTok. I was like, how does everybody in Minneapolis know who these people are? Minneapolis is like a small You're from Canada Have you ever been to Minneapolis? Yes, I have It's like a small big city I get that So everyone knows everyone
Starting point is 00:02:34 If they did love is blind Nashville I'm like everyone would know everyone I'd want to watch that I would want to watch that I would want to watch that I think it's a key I thought there was going to be Now they're doing Denver
Starting point is 00:02:42 I think is the next one So they'll all just be But I'm like do Nashville Because I would have a field day podcasting about that one It would be so good That would be fun But what was like
Starting point is 00:02:52 Little Haley like growing up in Minnesota? Little Haley I feel like I was probably the same way I literally would just like film videos with my mom or my sister in my room So you always love doing this Always but like no one was watching them
Starting point is 00:03:06 They were just like for my enjoyment So I'd make like little news shows I forget what we call it We were like newscaster USA And it was like my sister and me We do these morning news reports So little me I was a nerd I was a huge nerd
Starting point is 00:03:18 Love that My parents are both engineers So I grew up in the sciences So cool Yep Don't use it at all Yay. But you still have the nerd and you have it.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah. Still have it. And I went to like a small little school. I'm like such a stereotype. It sounds like this stereotypical like small town girl. Yes. To New York City. Living in a lonely world.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I took the midnight train going anywhere. I do love that song that it's such a classic. It is a classic. So you grow, okay. So wait, am I allowed to ask how old you are? Yeah. Yeah. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:03:49 32. Oh, you're 32. Oh, you still baby. I'm in my 30s. 30s are the best. I'm 30. I'm 40 in like two months. Yeah. And I feel like 30s slay.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I feel like everyone told me 30s are awesome and I didn't believe them when I was in my 20s because I was like, oh, that's what you guys are saying to make you feel better about being 30. But no. But it's actually true. My life literally started because your brain gets so much smarter. It really does. It's 27 is pivotal. 30 is just amazing. And then it just keeps getting better.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I just had a girl that she studies the human design and she told me 50 is actually where I'll really start thriving. And I was like, okay. I'm a little nervous about that one. Not even going to lie. See, but I felt very like, I was like, okay, I thought you were going to tell me like 40 was it. And then it was like, beroom. I just hope we are the generation that, like, I just know one day they're going to figure out how to stop aging. Well, tell your parents.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And there's going to, my parents are checked out. They're mechanical. They're like, what do I do with biochem engineering? My dad could, like, make metal. Can't they make us live longer? Like, I just know there's going to be one generation that, like, doesn't get to the anti-aging. So they're going to be, like, 80, and everyone else is going to look 20. and I just don't, although it would be great for videos.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It would be great for videos. But do you want to age? No, what? You want to like get older, but you don't want to age. Yes, I want my brain to get older. But like, I mean, I hate that aging is something that's negative only for women and not for men. I hate all that stuff. But of course, yeah, I want to look hot forever.
Starting point is 00:05:14 No, I'm the same. I literally try so hard to look 20 forever. Yep. And that's, I want there to be a magic pill. I heard there was a pill coming out to make your dog last longer. and I'm like, overdose my dogs on that. I'll be giving me and my dogs at. If it works on dogs, let's start some human trials.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You know what I'm saying? I think they are. But would you take the trial pill? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I got nothing to lose. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Let's go here. Do it for the gram. Do it for my aging. I'm gay. Sign me up. That's amazing. Okay, growing up, I feel like sometimes people who grow up in small towns, you kind of like are surrounded by people you love.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You have, I say this because I grow up. up in a very small town. I feel like you have to use your imagination. I feel like you've got to get creative. So you're saying you made these videos. You've always kind of been this creative, performer, entertainer. Yeah, definitely performer. I never thought I was like creative, creative though, because my sister is more like art and she can draw and she can do crafts and like I can't do any of those things. Although I enjoy it like a paint and wine night with my friends. Yeah, paint by numbers. I'm not artsy. I do like paint by numbers and that's fun. So growing up, I always thought like I was more.
Starting point is 00:06:22 science and math. I always thought I was more like logic. Yeah. But I feel like logic is just creativity or just like understanding creative through logic. So that's what I do with my videos now is I just like try to watch the internet see what's working on like an analytical level and then just apply logic to creativity. So I feel like I'm not that creative, but maybe I am. Maybe I'm gaslit myself. No, you have to be creative to be doing what you're doing. I think you're creative. Were you always confident growing up? Oh, no, no, no. I think I got bullied. a lot growing up. And it made me almost ready for what I do now. Like I went from being basically backstory. I went to like a very small Christian school, like the kind that like are
Starting point is 00:07:05 run by like a church, not like the fancy brick building. This is like no uniforms. There's like 20 kids in your class. And so I grew up in that until eighth grade. And everyone knew everyone. And there was a lot of bullying. Then I went to the public high school, which was huge. and then there was more bullying. Oh, no. But then after that, I went to college and there wasn't much bullying there. And then I went to modeling.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And that's where the real bullying began. Oh, my gosh, I was going to ask about that. So you've been through some ups and downs in. I don't know. I didn't have, there was bullying going on at my school. I don't feel like it was as bad. I feel like a lot of people in my school actually got along. I got.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You're lucky. The girls in my 12th grade had to have a sit down meeting if they wanted me to be in the limo for graduation or not. Okay, that sounds like bullying to me. That's bullying. That's bullying. Yeah. But overall, I feel like it was, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I feel like everyone was kind of nice to each other. It's because you're Canadian. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. We have the American in us, so we're like, we're going to bully you. Yeah, you, yeah, you'd be nice, but passive aggressive. Literally. Canadians, I think. That's Canadians, too.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's Minnesotans and Canadians. I agree, because I feel like Minnesotans are like honorary Canadians. I feel like we're proud of that. Yeah. Yeah. I really do think that. Putting that on my tombstone. I mean, dude, that's what I say on all my podcasts.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Really? If somebody says something cool, I'm like, put that on your tombstone. Or I say make it a teacher. See? Yeah. I say that in comments on TikTok and I'm guessing kids are like, wait, what? And I'm like, no, no, no, it's a joke. I'm not going to die.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Don't worry. I swear. Kids on TikTok. We were talking about this kind of a bit, but science is your back or your parents' background. Yep. You kind of grew into like math and science. You're a brilliant kid. I wouldn't go as far as to say brilliant.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Well, I barely graduated. I like, can't believe I'm. here doing anything, but you were smart. I was smart, but I also was encouraged by my parents to like be smart. You know what I mean? Like my parents were the parents that if I got a B, I'd be grounded for two weeks. Yeah. So like I was almost conditioned to have to be smart. Okay. Or I would never leave my house or have friends or do activities. So I was like, okay, I have to get A's. I have to get A's. And then it just kind of grew into like a love for science. Oh, okay. So you did end up loving it. I did. Yes. And then what point were you like modeling?
Starting point is 00:09:21 So it's funny, I graduated with biomedical sciences in psych, minor, and chem. So super nerd. Wow. Then I worked in an immunology lab. Thanks. It wasn't. I didn't wear any makeup. And I always had like that glasses mark on my nose.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Oh my God. That's so cute. Not cute. No, that's so cute. I love that. Thank you. And then I. All your character.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Thank you. After that, that's kind of like, I think probably how I got into character was there were so many different things in my life that were so different. I was like, oh, these are all my characters. Right. Yeah, there you go. Wow. I sound like I have multiple personality disorder. Anyway, I was working in immunology and then I got married to my ex-husband. And he was an athlete. So his job required a lot of moving around. And we came to the conclusion that if I applied to medical school, I would probably get in out of state. Because you usually apply to like 40 medical schools and rost your fingers that you get into even one that you would want to go to. So I put that on hold. And while I was like figuring out where we were going to live for his career, I worked as a wedding dress shop person.
Starting point is 00:10:22 So I helped, like, girls find their wedding dress. Really? And then when he moved to Charlotte and I went with him, that was really close to New York. Yeah. And I got scouted by Sports Illustrated Swimsuit on Instagram of all things. I feel like I owe meta my life. Yep. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah. They are my overlords. I serve them. No. But they found me on Instagram when I had, like, 50 followers and I submitted to, like, no way. I want a model for Sports Illustrated thing. And then I became a model from that.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I shot for Sports Illustrated. I went back and forth between New York and Charlotte because they're only about an hour flight away. Yeah. And that's how I became a model. And then eventually my mental health went, you know, as it does. Did you quit? But wait, where did pageant life come in for you?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Oh, that was before college. That was to earn money for a scholarship. So you did pageant, you were a pageant girl to earn money for a scholarship. I was. And I also loved the glyph. I mean, I'm not even going to lie. I told my parents, like, no, mom, it's just for scholarship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you liked it. Yeah, of course. What inspired you to, so it was for a scholarship, that's what inspired you to do it. Well, my dad used to watch Miss USA. Of course, it was my dad. Sorry, dad, I'm going to tell him. He would watch Miss USA on TV when I was little and I would watch with him. And I was like, this is so cool. Like these girls are from like Minnesota, Wisconsin. Right. You hear of people in Hollywood, but they're all like L.A. And that just seemed so unreachable to me. So I was like, oh, that's a girl from Minnesota walking on a stage, like on national TV.
Starting point is 00:11:49 for Minnesota like that's so cool and so then I got one of those like little flyers in the mail they just know how to pick the right houses and I was like please can I apply please and I tried everything my parents were like no until I talked about how it's scholarship money and then they were like if you can raise the money to enter and buy your own dress and whatnot you can enter and I entered and I entered and I entered and I won that one but then I entered again and I won that one because you won miss Minnesota USA 2014 yes yep but then I also like God, I'm going to make myself sound like a pageant person. I also won't Miss Minnesota Teen USA.
Starting point is 00:12:24 That's where it started. Oh. Mm-hmm. What did that, like, what did that world look like? Scary. Yeah. It's terrifying. It's like, I mean, the girls are really nice.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah. Granted, if a girl isn't very nice, it's usually because, like, her mom or her family is really competitive. Yeah. And she's been raised in it. So the girls in Texas will, like, do it from, like, the time they're four. And so they have these perfect poses. And I was like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I had to learn all that real fast. You were like going to the back, watching them and then coming up and being like, yeah, me too, me too. I was like, yeah, totally. Oh, wait, no, we don't put them on our hips. We put them behind our back like this. Beautiful. Okay, perfect.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Was there like rules? Unwritten? It's weird. Really? It's very, but it's funny because the girls are so intelligent and so motivated. And like many of them have their own charities. And these aren't just like placeholders. These are things that like they actually do.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Right. Like they're not just saying, I have seven charities. because they'll look at it off. They'll tell us her lying. Yeah. And it's amazing what these girls do. It's. And then when you win for your state, like, what are the perks?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Like, what are the benefits? Scholarship. Okay. So it depends on the state. Yeah. Texas, you get like an apartment and like a car. But Minnesota, you get like $1,000 towards a dress. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Most of these girls have like, you know, $15,000 dresses. So you're rolling up with your $1,000 dress and you're like, I thought this was expensive. What is happening here? Minnesota, they also give you, like, interview. training. They teach you how to wear makeup or do your makeup really fast. Fake eyelashes. I learned that. I'm still not good at it. A lot of different things. And then you do a lot of charity work like during your time. So you get involved with you are you miss. Is it for the year? Yeah. Yeah. Unless you win. Like if you win Miss USA, which I did not win. But you were in Miss
Starting point is 00:14:07 USA. I competed for it. But Nevada won my year. Still cool that you were in it. It was cool. But I was definitely like way too focused on my body size. And then I didn't have a good time because, like, I wasn't eating and it messes with your mental. Did they, okay, so just from my perspective, I grew up as a dancer, so there was similar, a lot of similar, like, well, I definitely had body image issues. But like, were coaches telling you that you needed to look a certain way? Was it just your own competitiveness telling you to look a certain way? I think it's a mix between the two. It's like you're shown pictures of women that have probably a different body shape as you naturally.
Starting point is 00:14:47 and no matter what you do, you can't get to that. And so in your head, of course, as a competitive person, as somebody that, like, I was a nerd, I want to be the best and I want to do well. You just chase that and you'll never get to. Like, I'll never have a VS angel build. And that's okay. But all the photos they showed me of girls
Starting point is 00:15:04 who were successful in the swimsuit challenge were girls that looked like that. So that's where it came from. I'm 39 and I still have to tell myself that. Like, I was showing my girlfriend, we were in the sauna and I was like, God, I just wish I had her body. She goes, but you don't.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. And you won't. Like, that's just a different build than you, so you're not going to have it. So why do you want it? And also, like, who cares? At the end of the day, like, it's so weird that we hyper focus on those things because we just made it all up anyways. We decided that's the best looking, like, we can just change our minds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:35 We can change our minds to include a ton of different shapes and sizes. Right. So it's just a weird mental, like, and you just get in, you know, you get into like a tunnel and it's hard to see outside of it when you're in it. How did you get outside of it? How did you get outside? of it. My family is very logical. Like, yeah. Very logical. And they were like, what are you doing? You're only eating peanuts. You are stupid. I was like, wait. You might have a point. You make a point. You make a point because this is my 18th apple sauce for this week. I think after I was done with pageants, it almost just
Starting point is 00:16:06 went away naturally until modeling. And then, you know, it started to come back. Right. Which I'm like, I get imposter syndrome in certain situations and other situations. I'm like, no, I really deserve. serve to be here. But do you experience imposter syndrome in the model industry? Because I feel like it's competitive. There are just some things that some women have that I don't. Like there are some women that are born so breathtakingly beautiful that like you see them and you're like, I am not worthy. How dare I breathe your air? Like there's just something about their face and their bone structure. And like that was just a gift. Like they were they were born with it. You don't think you have that gift? Oh, well, thank you. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 Okay, Angelina Jolie. Thank you. But they're like, I swear, like if you go to Europe and like you go to these modeling, like the runways, like some of these women are just blessed with like the most beautiful skin hair and eyes you've ever seen. And so like there's nothing you can do to they were just born like that. And they were gifted with that. And that's their thing. Some of us have to pay for it. Some of us pay for it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I have been that person. Oh, same is. But you just kind of find your lane. And I just knew with like what I. love that although I loved the creativity and the art of modeling it wasn't like it didn't drive me to get out of bed in the morning it made me feel worse and I didn't want to get out of bed really yeah so how did you find like what actually makes you get out of bed in the morning it's funny because it's TikTok which is so weird that brain rot gets me out of bed in the
Starting point is 00:17:35 morning but it's so does yeah I just I love internet culture yeah I was like a huge I loved like YouTube and like there was like comedy central days where they'd have like the comedy shorts or, like, I would watch college humor all the time. Jenna Marbles. Oh, Jenna Marbles, huge one that pays away. Totally. I love her. I hope she's doing well.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But where is she? She dipped out. Yeah, she's gone. She's living her best life. She's married. I don't even know if they have kids. Oh, great. I feel like they don't want me to know.
Starting point is 00:18:03 She's off the internet. She's off the internet. Wow. She made her money. She did her thing. And then she said, peace out. I'm good. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:18:09 She's probably going to, like, return in some epit. We're talking about her like, Jesus. She's going to return. Some epic fashion. but it'll be cool. But no, I did an apartment tour with Caleb Simpson and tons of eyes were on my page. I think the video within like a few hours had like 55 million views. How? I have no idea. I'm sitting here wondering the same thing. I'm like, why? Oh my gosh. 55 million? I don't know. And then I've always wanted to be on Saturday Night Live. That was like the dream I didn't let my engineering parents know about. And so then when I saw all of the views on my page just kind of stalking from the Caleb. video. I was like, this is my chance to make like my own SNL. Yeah. And it's something I've always wanted to do. And all of those eyes on my page was enough motivation to start posting five videos every single day. Is that what you do? For a year and a half. I've only ever taken like two days
Starting point is 00:19:02 off in the last two and a half years. What? I post five videos a day on every platform. How do you come up with the ideas and the concepts and the it's I, I just love internet culture. Like I just, I I watch brain rot all day long, and so I just get brain rot, I think. Well, you said earlier, like, you get that. So how do you know what you see on the internet works and then make it? Like, if you were to teach a class on this, what would you say are like top three? The way in which you film is one. It doesn't need to be aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Like, I'm not an aesthetic queen. Other people are aesthetic queens. There's a certain shininess to a video that goes viral. I don't know why, but just like the more you. watch you can just tell like there's just something about the way that it's shot that it doesn't distract you you're not you like you could watch it again on repeat okay plus like half the people who are watching social media are usually under the influence of something so if something is distracting or it can throw things off so it's it it's just like so clean looking okay and then
Starting point is 00:20:05 on top of that it's like where you put the the text the font that you use for the text the size and that changes constantly depending on like if gen alpha is like going viral if you're Gen Z. Millennials do it differently. And then it's just using like viral trends the moment, like when everyone was making fun of modern art. That's when I did the modern art sketch because it was like top of mind for people. And then the algorithm is most likely going to pump it out because it's top of mind or top searched for people. So you're just constantly brainstorming and looking and thinking and like it could be something so simple and you're like, oh, I'm going to write that down. It's going to be a skit later. You should see my phone. It's like the most, you know how there's a trend on
Starting point is 00:20:44 TikTok where it shows a girl's notes app. Yeah. And it'll be like some poem about a man that's name is Taylor and then like buy eggs and then like a TikTok idea. Mine is like the most scattered random ADHD like TikTok thoughts. Half the time they're spelled wrong half the time. Like it's just a one liner like hot sauce when that one friend eats it. And people are like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:21:07 And I'm like, trust me. Yeah. It'll make sense when it does. Maybe it'll make sense when I make it and maybe I will never post it. but who did you actually have a billionaire boyfriend no i didn't think so but um my producer thought that was real she was like ask her about her billionaire boyfriend and i was like i think that was a bit you want to know where that came from too yeah is when my apartment tour went viral it was at a weird time in my life i was going through my divorce yeah we had announced it publicly which was like
Starting point is 00:21:33 years and years in the making yeah and we shared an apartment in new york city but he had moved out and I had taken it over and I also could not afford it. So I was two weeks away from moving out when that apartment tour went viral. And every single one of the comments were like, what man pays for this? And part of me was like, oh my gosh, they're right. I can't afford this. But I'm going to try to use that in a way that hopefully will make me be able to afford this one day. And I was like, oh, I'm going to give them a billionaire boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And I'm going to start making like little shows about what my. life is like with this man that that buys my life yeah and that's where billionaire boyfriend was born was from the hate comments you create oh god I love that you created a billionaire boyfriend that wasn't real from the hate comments and ended up being able to pay for your apartment yeah oh boss energy yeah thank you to the women that that liked what I created that is hilarious how did you do the shaving the eyebrows video special effects special effects so there is a plug-in to a Adobe after effects that you can like almost stitch down something on your face. So eyebrows are tough because you're constantly moving your head. And so anytime you move your head,
Starting point is 00:22:48 you're usually going to see like where that coverage is showing. We did it all with just computer, like just special effects. And so the whole time I was acting, my eyebrow was there. We just, we would like, you know, use something on the computer just to cover it up. That was wild. I watched it so many times being like, how? Yeah, that one was, that was really fun. I randomly went, so that was me and my ex-boyfriend did that together, and he's a very talented editor. And so he taught me, like, everything that I know, which I'm so grateful for. Oh, that's cool. One day, I was just like, how hard is it to shave off my eyebrow? And he was a weekend, and he was like, not that hard. And I was like, let's do it. And then that weekend,
Starting point is 00:23:27 we made like eight videos. We did not sleep. We were like up all day editing, all night editing. Like, it was just so much fun. And I never knew I could get that many views on my page because that was my first time I'd ever done anything like that crazy. Grab a coffee and discover nonstop action with BudMGM Casino. Check out our hottest exclusive. Friends of one with Multi-Drop. Wanted even more options? Play our wide variety of table games.
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Starting point is 00:24:17 I am. Oh, you are? And you're public about it. Yes, yeah, now. Yeah. Okay, that's exciting. We've been dating for almost a year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And so I went public with him in February. Is that scary? Very scary. Yeah, very, very scary. Because also, like, it's the internet. So if they've ever done anything in their past, if they've ever, like, that could potentially, have like adverse effects on your career even if like you didn't know them and so uh we had to have that conversation of like who are the people you've wronged and it's a man in new york city they've wronged
Starting point is 00:24:47 a lot of people um they do and me being like a girl's girl is like ah yeah yeah but yeah it's all of those different things come into play that like it's just hard so you try to wait it out and see if they're a good person that you could have your page i don't know represent them i do feel like a year good amount of time to figure that out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's, we've been through a lot together and he's been, although he's made some mistakes. I probably have to. Yeah. Yeah. Do you and your current partner, do you guys, do you live together? No, he has his own place. Okay. No, we're like very chill. He's always at my place. Yeah. How did you ask me? We met, oh, God, on Raya. Ew. Oh, that's okay. Ew. That's it. Wait, were you dating Jared Leto for a minute? No, no, no. Jared has been
Starting point is 00:25:35 nothing but like the most respectful. He just, he found my content on YouTube shorts. Yeah. And he was one of my first celebrity collabs. His team DM'd me. Yeah. Being like, hey, Jared is, had the Met Gala yesterday and he has this, the cat costume, the Carl Lagerfield cat.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And he wants to shoot some content. He loves your YouTube shorts. And then he came over with his team and, uh, an amazing person to work with. Super easy. Like, super down to just like play around, which is crazy for an Oscar winning actor. So is this like, like, like you'll be doing this for the next 50 years. of your life. I mean, it all, the landscape is changing so fast, but if I could make videos and do what I do for the rest of my life, I would be extremely happy. Like, you gained 13 million followers in less than a
Starting point is 00:26:16 year. Yeah, it was crazy. How? I don't know. Thank you. Guys, I don't know. I don't know. And really, like, you think the more posting, the better. I think it completely depends on, on your channel and who follows you and what they like. What platform do, like the best? Ooh. They're all different, and I like them for different reasons. That sounds like a political answer. But TikTok is culture. TikTok, like, drives culture. You know, like, what the trending things in the moment are because, like, it happens
Starting point is 00:26:45 so fast there. And everyone also feels confident posting a lot more. Instagram is going to be more like your relatable, like, also crazy content where you just, you just can never predict it. YouTube is going to be the people that are invested in your story. That's where, like, podcasts are going to do well or even just, videos about me talking about my life or the things I've gone through, like, YouTube loves that and loves to get to know, like, who you are. Yeah. And then Snapchat is just insane.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I don't even, I literally tried to get back into the Snapchat game because when I first came off The Bachelorette, that was like it. Like Snapchat was it. That was when they were monetizing it, like crazy. I've heard the tales. I was like, holy shit, I'm getting more views than I did as the Bachelorette on ABC, like, it was like my own TV show and I loved it. And then Instagram stories started happening. So I kind of like dabbled in both, but I was still like committed to Snapchat. And now I'm like, ah, I open Snapchat. I'm like, I don't know. Wait, because what year were you in? On 2015. That would make sense. Yeah. That would make sense. Because it's like, I forget that Instagram stories and reels are so recent that like they didn't even have that in 2015.
Starting point is 00:28:00 The Instagram reels are like quite like a couple years old. It's actually insane. It is insane. But yeah, I didn't even have Instagram story. It was Snapchat when I came off the show. That's crazy. I know. Where would people post link in my bio?
Starting point is 00:28:14 I don't know. I don't remember. It was 10 years ago. I'm glad I wasn't working then. Way harder. It was no, it was easier. Really? I felt like it was easier.
Starting point is 00:28:25 It's a post on. Everybody went to Snapchat. Really? Or like a post on Instagram. video for Snapchat and it felt like not like there's so many influencers out there now where before it there really wasn't I go on Snapchat to like figure out if somebody's pregnant or and you know what I mean like when there's like is this celebrity pregnant I immediately go to their Snapchat like looking at reflections and mirrors I'm like there's the got to mess up because if you're
Starting point is 00:28:50 going to find anything you're going to find it on Snapchat really yeah because we post you like spam post it's like yeah that's you just post whatever you don't even think about if you want to see me I rarely drink, but when I do get drunk, I'd probably post it on Snapchat. Maybe don't watch it because it's probably really cringy. Do you worry about cringe content? No, have you seen my page girl? But that's why I don't find it cringe is because I feel like you just don't care. It's self-aware. I know, I know it's cringe, but that's, like, it's fun to watch cringe stuff sometimes. So as long as it's self-aware, I give myself a pass. I will give you a pass. The second it doesn't become self-aware, the second you're like, Haley girl, what is this? And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:29:29 This is fire. Delete my account. Delete it. Get it off the internet. Save me from myself. So on Instagram compared to like an Instagram reel, it will do better on Instagram if it's a specific thing than it would on TikTok. I get so confused.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Instagram and TikTok are probably the most similar now. Yeah. They used to be like about like two weeks apart. Yeah. What would go viral? But now there's so many creators like you said. Yeah. And it's fun.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So like even people that aren't creators love to make videos. like with their husband or their kids. And so you'll see a lot of the same things. A lot of them are exact copies. Like I scroll BrainRot so much that I will literally know who made the original video. And I'll be like, oh, 17 people copied this on Instagram when it started on TikTok. Okay, you've said it so many times now. I have to ask, I feel like I should know.
Starting point is 00:30:17 What is BrainRot? Is that just TikTok? It's like the depths of social media where you just keep scrolling. Oh, that's what I saw. Like skivety toilet or like phantom. Oh, you're not. in the Gen Alpha zone, are you? I'm not. Skibbitty. YouTube shorts. Look up Skibbitty
Starting point is 00:30:33 Toilet. Is it gross? It's like this alternate universe where Gen Alpha is going to rip me apart if I get this wrong. Dang. I don't think Gen Alpha listens to my podcast. Perfect. Amazing. I'm just going to confuse the millennials then. No, I hope maybe you could bring in the Elfas and the Gen Zs and maybe. Shibbitty toilet. Skibbity toilet. No, see, I already messed it up. What is it? It's like these people
Starting point is 00:30:55 that get their heads caught in toilets. And it's like, shibbitty, shibbitty, Shibody, shibody, shibody, toilet. I swear this exists. No, I believe you. I swear, I'm not insane. I don't think you'd make something so wild up. That would be crazy if I did. But like, what works on the internet?
Starting point is 00:31:13 I can't keep up. Yeah, it's aggressive. And I think they're making it, I think it was greenlit for like a, like an actual Hollywood film because they have such proof of concept in the fact that like these go so viral that Hollywood's like, I'll throw some money at that. Yeah, no kidding. People in toilets. do it. And now that's what they're doing. What in the hell kind of world are we living in?
Starting point is 00:31:34 You can literally, like, there's pieces of toast that go viral. It's just like a wet piece of toast in a shower. And they put like some sad song that you'd cry to in the shower. And like it has like 18 million likes and you're like, what? So, okay, that's brain rough. If anyone, okay, if anyone is listening and they're like, I want to be an influencer, I want to go viral, what advice would you give them? Um, study it. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's just like anything else, right? Like, you want to be an engineer.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You study your textbooks. Yeah. You want to be a creator. You study the people before you that have done really well. Right. Or, like, of course, you want your own voice in it because every creator having their own voice is what makes it fun. Right. But, like, it's, you're learning and you're finding out.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And that's why so many people, when they start out, copy other people because they don't know, like, oh, this is not a good thing to do. Right. They just think, oh, it's free game. How hard is it to not copy other people? on the internet. It's pretty hard because sometimes I'll make something and then I'll see not shot for shot or the same whatever, probably a different sound, but I'll see a similar idea since we all pretty much live very similar lives.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like if you're in New York, you might live very similarly millions of other people. And so the concept you come up with might be similar. But there's a lot of like shot for shot. But it's okay. Just tag people's inspo guys. Well, I get so upset because with like there's like that whole. lore with Haley Bieber and Selena Gomez. And I'm like
Starting point is 00:33:00 anyone, this is how I think about it because I'm trying to think of who this girl was that they think killed her little daughter. She was like Casey, Casey Anthony. Casey Anthony. And she went on TikTok. So there's so many things where like if a Netflix documentary wants to make you look
Starting point is 00:33:16 innocent, they can. Yes. If they want to make you look guilty and like you've done, they can put things together. I feel like they can do that with Haley and Selena. Oh yeah. Haley might not have done whatever, but they can make it look like it was like intentionally this and oh she wore a white top that day and selina did that way are you into that kind of no i mean i also i've been a woman on the internet right like i've had my whole life picked apart and i'm guessing and you've been on reality tv it's the exact same thing
Starting point is 00:33:41 it's like you do an eye roll and they can edit that eye roll to be a girl saying something that's important to her right you're rolling your eyes when they could that could have been hours days apart. So I just feel like I've met so many people that are like A-listers that are just as confused how they got famous as everyone else. Yes. And they would be the first to judge themselves and like tear themselves down. So it makes me sad when people hyper. I get that it's fun. I get, you know, if I was younger maybe, but I think I've just been in their shoes a little bit. So I just, I watch it from above, but like don't put any grain of salt in it. Because you never know. Do you feel pressure to always be putting out stuff and like, or do you actually just genuinely love it so much?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Or what's that relationship? It's both. It's kind of like I'm constantly challenging myself to like be better and make better content and like get like better lighting or better, you know, editing skills or whatnot. But I also just love to make it. I've tried to take days off because people are like, hell, you're going to burn out. You've got to take days off. you crazy person. And I will sit there and then I'll just be like,
Starting point is 00:34:56 you're like, must make videos. Must make videos. There's an idea in my brain. And if it's burning in my brain, like I can't pay attention to anything else. Wow. Like I have to do, because it's fun for me.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yeah. So now my friends are just used to getting roped into. Do you use a phone? Do you have a specific camera? Oh, I have my, no, iPhone 13. You do? I do. Yeah, I have an iPhone 13 and I film everything on it.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Okay, good. I've had it from the beginning. I feel better. It feels better. It films aesthetically. Well, also, Forbes named you a top creator in 2024. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You're just, so you're doing something, right? I guess. If Forbes, I actually sent that to my parents and I was like, ha, it is a real job, mom and dad. Seriously. Yeah, because would you be in Forbes if you were doing a different path? No.
Starting point is 00:35:39 No. No, definitely not. That's crazy. No. That must feel so validating for all the work you've put in to be named in Forbes. It's really cool that like, because I feel like internet culture is its own thing. And I feel like for so long
Starting point is 00:35:51 it was looked at as different than like entertainment. And now the two are merging. And so it's really fun because I think creators are so brilliant. Like they're going to be the next people making and they already have been like 824 movies. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And they're going to be the next people like scripting big projects. And so it almost evens the plane field out where like you can grow up in the middle of nowhere without any connection to Hollywood, without any money. And all you need is a phone. And you can show your, art or like what's in your brain to the world. And I think that's so sick. So like the fact that Forbes
Starting point is 00:36:24 recognizes it as like people doing cool things is dope. What scares you about the internet? Oh my gosh. Being canceled is really, really, really awful. And it also like I think as a creator, especially as a comedy creator, I want people to go to my page and just like have fun. And just never feel like targeted, never feel any certain way. And so when things are going on in the world that are little darker or you know there's a lot of things that are going on right now that are tough for a lot of people i just hope my page is a place that makes people happy but sometimes you're also like do i need to say something do i not and it that's scary yeah it's scary you feel it's when you have millions 13 millions of eyeballs on you do you feel a responsibility to to go outside of
Starting point is 00:37:14 your like what you want you know people to come to your page for do you or are you like like, no, I'm sticking to this. No, I think because a lot of my followers are very young. Yeah. I didn't know anything about that space. And I also don't want them believing something just because I said it. Yeah. You know, like I'm so grateful that my parents gave me a space to cultivate my own ideas and my own, like, about religion, about politics, about whatever it may be.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And like, life experience is the only thing that will drive you, I think, to like the correct. I don't even know if there's correct choices anymore. Right. Right. The more empathetic or moral choices. But I want people to figure that out on their own. And I want them to have a space that, like, if they're going through something, they don't need to constantly be inundated with all of the bad things in the world. I agree with that. Because everywhere else, we are constantly inundated with that. Like, I love TikTok for when people make me laugh. Because I'm like, oh, I needed that. And sometimes it makes me feel less guilty about scrolling. Because I'm like, I literally just giggled for an hour straight at people's content. Like, feed me with that. Because my algorithm right now, I'm like, why I did know. Get out of here. And I'm like, need to reprogram it. But have you ever been close to getting canceled? Oh, no. I was really canceled. Why? I, during last year, during the Met Gala, I worked as a, like, a reporter for E. Yeah. And so I was on site at, it's called the Mark, the Mark Hotel here in New York. And then the Met Gala is like a few blocks up. So I never, I never went to the Met Gala. But the Met was like everything to me. Like, that is like art and culture and like all this, the fanciness of Hollywood that in. never thought I'd get to be around. So when I got asked to be a like on-site reporter for the
Starting point is 00:38:53 hotel, I was like, yes. Absolutely. And unfortunately, I started working at like noon that day. And Israel and Hamas, there was an attack that was pretty brutal. And I did not know any of this was happening. And I was dressed in an outfit that was very like French couture, like some compared it to Marie Antoinette. So then there was a trending audio. suggested by TikTok that said let the meat cake. And I did not know the meaning. I went to that tiny little Christian school where we studied the Bible and not the French Revolution. Yeah. And I had posted that as my outfit reveal. Right. But unfortunately, because of what happened, it felt like an attack by me in a place that is like wealth and prestige and all this stuff. It's just
Starting point is 00:39:41 such a wrong place, wrong time, wrong energy to be giving to any situation. Yeah. And people took that and we're obviously very offended. And, oh, my God, you must have felt sick. I lost so much weight. I, I, it was so, it was the worst experience in my life, but it also taught me that although I consider myself like a comedy creator and I try to stay away from things that are hard to talk about or, um, political or violent, uh, that my, whatever I make touches a lot of people. Yes. And if I make something that could potentially be even just viewed or is just
Starting point is 00:40:19 offensive. Like that's on me. Even if I don't know about it. Right. So with Spider-Man, with great power comes great responsibility. But it's true. I felt awful. Yeah. And I made a nine-minute apology video. And of course, I was stumbling around on my words. And I was trying to speak from the heart because I'm a, I said I'm a normal person. But of course, that was a bad thing to say because then it comes across like, I don't realize the wealth that I have or the. So it was just, it was really tough, but it was a really, really big learning experience for me in taking accountability and also understanding like sometimes you accidentally hurt people. And it's not their fault that they're hurt. It's your fault that you hurt them. Yeah. I've, I've been learning a lot
Starting point is 00:41:04 in therapy about intention versus impact. Yeah. You know, and that's, yeah. Yeah, it's scary when you have that many people watching and you're bound to make a mistake, even if it's obviously not intentional, but the impact that it has. Yeah. Yeah, that's scary. It's literally the worst thing that, because you also start to question, like, every choice that you made. Like every, when I remember the sound was suggested by TikTok, you know, you take a picture and, like, the sound pops up. Yeah. And then my hairstylist was like, oh, this sound is trending.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yes. And I was like, yes. Yeah, yeah. Not even thinking about it now, I'm very careful with anything that I think has any historical connotation to it, anything that could potentially be viewed as, I don't know, attacking someone or attacking a group of people. Like I, and I needed that because you feel like, oh, it's just a little video in my phone. Like, it's only going to reach my followers.
Starting point is 00:41:57 No, it couldn't reach the world. Yes. And it sucks even more when it reaches the world. And you made them feel bad. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Oh, I'm proud of you. making that apology and learning from it because you're obviously still doing good thing. You're doing so many interviews on red carpets now. What was that last one that you just did the freaking SAG Awards? Was it say? No. Or the after for the Oscars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah. Yeah. Like you got, do you, who do you get starstruck by anyone? Not very many people. Didn't Ariana Grande call you like gorgeous? Yeah, that start. I was star struck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Just because that was my first time to meeting somebody that was like, she is. She's Ariana Grande. Like, she is one of the most famous people in the entire world. I think for me, Taylor Swift, because of her notoriety and I think her work ethic, I was very starstruck. Angelina Jolie was my one that I panicked. What do you mean you panic? I called her Angie. Because I'm so used to talking about her with my friends where I'm like, Angie, Angie, and I'm like, Angie.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And she's like, I love you so much. And she's like, thank you. Did she say you look like me? No, but I think she was like, what in the, who are you? And why are you calling me a nickname? Yeah, no. She's stunning. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:43:16 She's so beautiful. She's literally perfection. She's perfect. It's crazy. And it's like, I would like to know her secrets because she does not age at all. I think it's just her bone structure. But yeah, because she also doesn't look like she, and I'm all about if you want to have worked on whatever, but she just looks like the same person. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Just those are, I think that. That's just genetics. Just you eat those people that are born who just... Like Kate Beckinsale. Genetics. Is that genetics? It's got to be. I mean, even if it's not, like...
Starting point is 00:43:45 It looks like it's genetics. It looks like it's genetics. Good job. Share. Share with the class. Yeah. Wait, did you meet Taylor Swift? I did.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, at the Grammys. That's cool. And what's crazy is it's like you understand why some of these people are so successful because Taylor walked by me. And I said, you look like your dress is so pretty. because I freaked out. Yeah. And she was like,
Starting point is 00:44:07 thank you yours too. Like, great to meet you. And then when I saw her again a year later at the Grammys and I was there and I said something about her dress again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And she said, it's so lovely to see you again. And like the fact that somebody like Taylor Swift who meets millions of people every day and even has so many people working for her remembers an interaction. And I heard that about her
Starting point is 00:44:31 that she will. Crazy. Yeah. Advocacy for women in STEM, you nerd heard. I'm obsessed. Wait, talk to me about this. So I, you know, I have a STEM background. My mom is an engineer and a woman.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yep. And I've watched, you know, many women in my family kind of start out in the sciences. And you're like one of the few women in your upper level physics course. And you're like, am I in the wrong job? Where are the girls at? And you're not. it's just like a weird stereotype about our culture, even though women are better at math and science in their younger ages. Yes, they are.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Then until culture gets a hold. But like it was important for me to find some way to give back. And we're still working out the kinks on what that is and how it's going to be. But I want to have a nonprofit and do good things with it. And so if I do good things with something, I want it to be for women in STEM that didn't have access to some of the education that I had growing up. That's awesome. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Because I feel like you have this platform. You're able to break down stereotypes and you're able to break down, you know, like that people can have beauty and brains. And yeah, and you are funny too. You've got to get it and all going on. Thank you. Are you still aiming for SNL? I would love.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Really? Love nothing more than to even just be on like one weekend update, like drag me in. I'll play an influencer. Like I don't care. I would love. I've been to the tapings before. watched it from above like how do you do impressions no that's the thing I can't do like I can do like influencer impressions like the influencer accent or like those type of things what's the influencer accent
Starting point is 00:46:17 very like hey guys oh yeah how's it going I feel like there's like this thing like people do this yep yep no there are there are things that influencers do and I have to like fight myself to not do them but I've definitely do them like we all oh I'm yeah also quickly before we get into your confession that I heard you bracing yourself for on the way in here. You've been open about your diagnosis with, I always butcher this name. Endometriosis? Yes. Oh, I did it.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yeah. I think I might have that. A lot of people, I guess, do. Which I didn't know. Painful periods, like excruciating. I can't even, like sometimes I almost throw up because I start seeing stars and I black out because my pain is so bad. You might have endometriosis.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And I also, so I just got a ultrasound done. Yeah. I have so. so many cysts, and I have like a three centimeter fibroid on the lining of my uterus, like all these things that they're like, that's definitely going to cause infertility. And I'm like, oh my God. So for my 40th birthday, I'm getting my fibroids removed. Damn.
Starting point is 00:47:20 The worst gift. Fibroids? Yeah. Did you freeze your eggs? I did. Smart. Yes. I was like, if you're not saying egg freezing, you're chilling.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I did. I froze my eggs at 32, which I'm really happy about. I need to do that. But what led you to talk? talk openly about that. Oh, just really, really bad pain. There was a lot of like explorative things. Like I had so many bladder scopes. And they found it then. So what it? So they found endometeo. See, I can't say it. They can find that. I don't even know how they did it. But then they removed it with a scope surgery. And yeah. Now I'm chilling. Um, no more painful periods.
Starting point is 00:47:54 No more painful periods. None. Compared to what it was before when I would be like, but I also do have an IUD. Like a lot has gone down. Yeah. In this area. Yeah. Sounds weird. So I don't really know what worked for what, but now I'm chilling. Oh, good. Yeah. Okay, that gives me hope because I'm like, I am in so much pain. I wonder if while they're in there.
Starting point is 00:48:15 They should. Yes. They'll be able to see. Yes. Ask about it. Like, it's really just being honest with your doctor about like the type of pain you're having and where you're having it. Because like, again, there haven't been female doctors for a very long time until
Starting point is 00:48:28 recently. So a lot of these things that women deal with were never treated or never. like figured out how to treat or so there's all of these different options now. Wow, that's so crazy. I know what women go through. It's like wild. I always call it clockwork. I'm like every month I'm just like, well, I'm going to be down and out in blackout pain. So here we go. Yet there's like 25 pills that give a guy a boner. Makes no sense. Yeah. Nothing ever makes sense. I don't get it. Because men ruled medicine for so long. Yeah. That's okay. We need you off TikTok and into the medicine world. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I'm good. Use your science background. I just am like stereotyping just scientists, right? Like, hey, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Wait, do you want to play a quick game? I'm ready. It's called stem or scam.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Ooh. Okay, I'll read you a fact and you have to tell me if it's a real scientific fact, stem, or if it's totally made up, scam. I'm going to fail miserably. My whole brain is just brain rot now. Well, hit me with him. I don't know if this is like, okay, bananas are technically berries. Fact. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I've heard that before. Bananas fit the criteria of a berry because they develop from a single ovary and have seeds inside. See, Mom, I told you. I'm a scientist. Just send your mom these clips right here. We'll just put all the, you'll make you get them right just for your mom. Okay, octopuses have three hearts and two stop beating when they swim. I feel like something about the heart situation is true, but I'm going to say no.
Starting point is 00:49:58 No, you were right. It is true. It went with your gut. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Two of their hearts pumped blood. I wasn't sure about the beating part. I was like, is that the false part? Well, I'm trying to throw you, by the way. Oh, okay. But the heart pumps blood to the gills and the third pumps it to the rest of the body. Wow. You can sneeze with your eyes open if you try hard enough. Um, false. Right. Yeah. Because I think I've tried that. I'm like, especially when you're doing mascara and you're like, don't do it. And your mom is like, your eyes are going to pop out if you do that. And you're like, will they? Maybe they will. Dang. Let's record it. All the lies, we were told. as children. So many. The one that always sticks out to me is that you can't have the light on in the car while you drive. Thank you. I know. Was that just our era? Or like, where police officers
Starting point is 00:50:40 actually pulling people over for that? I don't know. Because like, I'm still terrified of that. I also found out that you can pump gas while your car's on. No. I've been the person that's like, turn off this car. It's illegal. I still do every time just because I'm so scared. I'm such a Karen. Oh, no. All my friends, I'm like, turn it off. We're going to blow up. No, I'm the same way. I'm the same way. I thought it was fully illegal. Okay, the Eiffel Tower grows taller in the summer. What? I mean, unless the earth underneath it is...
Starting point is 00:51:08 I'm going to go with no. No, it's true. How? The iron expands when heated. Ah, iron. Okay. I was thinking ground expansion. I should have been thinking metal expansion.
Starting point is 00:51:18 If I gave you more time, I feel like you'd really think these through, but it's a podcast. You're like, I don't know, Drew. I'm like, humans actually have more than five senses. No. It's true. It is. In addition to the classic five senses, We have others, like, I'm not going to be able to pronounce it.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Sense of body position. Oh. Equilibrium. Oh, I didn't even realize these are considered senses. Me either. See, this is what I mean. I'm just trying to throw you off. You know?
Starting point is 00:51:43 You know what? Let's get to your confession. That's stupid. Just tell me an embarrassing story. I'm embarrassing myself right now. When you become a content creator and you start working with, like, the apps, sometimes they'll let you in to test apps early. Oh, fun.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So when Threads was coming out, they were like, Kaylee, would you like beta access to threads? And I was like, absolutely I do. Yeah. Because we all know Charlie Demilio popped off on TikTok and she Right. One of the first. You want to be the first to do it. So I was like, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:15 If this is going to be like Twitter. Yeah. I didn't know that they only gave that to like only a few people. Mark Cuban being one of them. Okay. So it was like, Zuckerberg, Mark Cuban and then like meta employees and then like really famous people. and like random creators
Starting point is 00:52:31 that like they let in just to like give their opinion on it. Okay. So I start posting like mad. Yeah. Not thinking that when this launches, those are going to be the only thing everyone sees on their page.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Right. So like people are posting normal things. Mark Cuban is like, welcome to threads, you know? And I'm just spam replying to Mark Cuban like, pay attention to me. Like you have to notice me.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Like it's me and Mark Cuban in this room and you have to say hi. So I'm just like typing him the craziest stuff. I'm replying to Zuckerberg like Zuck Daddy. Like saying the. crazy the craziest stuff thinking like no one's ever going to see this because it'll all be erased before it's posted well they told me it was going to be like a couple weeks of beta testing and then they're going to clear it and then you know like it'll go live nope it was the next day
Starting point is 00:53:16 no without clearing anything no so everyone who went on threads only saw my manic like obsessive almost borderline not even borderline creepy things that i was saying to like mark cubit Mark Zuckerberg. I'm over here like Zuck Daddy said it's fine. So like it, I'm like, Wiz Khalifa's posting like like blunts and I'm like, you know that's legal bro. Like I'm just, I'm everywhere.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Like and so then when it's live, everyone was like, who is this? And they thought it was a computer system. No, because it was just spamming everyone. It was the only thing everyone saw. That is funny. Mark Cuban still did not say hi to me. How dear you?
Starting point is 00:53:56 But he definitely saw. He definitely saw. Mark. So I'm a little. I'll find you, Mark. One day you will run into him and you'll be able to tell him that. And he'll be like, security.
Starting point is 00:54:06 She's here. Get her out of here. I've told the story of my podcast before, but when I first got Instagram, which was like in like 2012, I thought it was an app just to put cool filters on and I posted a nude on it.
Starting point is 00:54:19 No. Yeah. No. Yeah, I posted a nude thinking like, with a good filter. Yeah. And I was like, this is cool. I mean, say they're on the Nashville filter
Starting point is 00:54:28 and like post because I thought it was my own album. Everything was like in sepia. No, you didn't realize it was public. Yeah, I didn't know it was public. And you, you were like, nude is definitely the first photo. I'm putting on sepia. Yeah. Sepea. Everyone was with the border. Yes. The big border. In the border. On your nude. Yeah. And I was like, please say you still send that to people. I'm like, can I have pics or like, how about this room from 2012? I definitely deleted it off the Instagram, but I only had like seven followers. I don't even remember because I just got it. And my girlfriend called me immediately.
Starting point is 00:55:02 She was like, why did you pose it nude? And I was like, what? You saw that? That's my biggest. I don't even take nude photos. But for some reason, because I'm so anxious, my biggest fear is, like, posting a non-existent nude photo of me on my story. And then, like, children are like, mom.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Like, so I don't even, I won't even go near my phone when I'm so terrified. So funny. I should be way more terrified. I have so many nudes in my phone. I'm always like, I mean, you're welcome. them if they come out, right? Well, I don't take a bad one. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:33 If I'm taking a nude, it's because I look good. So if it leaks, you're welcome. Now one's going to leak and people think it's on purpose. It's going to be the like sepia filter one with the border and they're going to be like the only person that could possibly that is her. There's going to be a hold. I think Caitlin Bristow leaked your own nude. Get ready with me. I love it.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Well, thank you so much. Tell everybody all, if they're probably already following you, but where to find you? At Haley Bailey with like 18 Wies and a million different E's. They'll H-A-L-E-Y-Y-Y-E, because I didn't think I would ever be a social media person, so I just picked whichever one was. I just want a full name, Caleb Bristow. Honestly, that's lit, though. I'm happy about it. Because people fully don't know, they don't even, they're like, is your name Haley, why are there so many E's?
Starting point is 00:56:18 There's just so many questions. Is your bail your middle name? No, my middle name is B. Oh. Like B-E-A. Oh. No, it's weird. Because then everyone's like B, like, B-A-A-T-R-I?
Starting point is 00:56:27 I'm like, no. They're like B like the letter B. I'm like, no. Just B. just B-E-A that was like remember on Simpsons when Homer J. Simpson was on a mission to find out what is Jay Stanton for in his middle name, but it was actually just Jay. That's me. Yeah, that's you. I'm like I'll find it. And my dad called me Haley Bailey, because Haley B. Haley Bailey growing up. So. Well, that's cute. Yeah. Now it seems like I'm, I did that for my dad. I didn't. I just, there was no other option. Yeah. But I did it for you, dad. Yeah. Dad. Thanks for watching the pod. Dad. Thanks for watching, dad. And mom, see, she answered a few correct. Yeah. My mom. has no idea how to even listen to a podcast. Oh. Oh.
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