Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Harry Hudson: Music & Mediation for Healing

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Two Gemini b!tches with big hearts are in the studio today, sipping on Pink Agua and talking about some pretty deep stuff. Harry Hudson, an incredible singer-songwriter, joins Kaitlyn to share his difficult yet inspiring story. Music was always his passion but it wasn’t until after his cancer diagnosis at age 20 that he really understood the role it played in his life. Harry opens up about how his cancer journey changed his life from the unexpected reception of the diagnosis to where he is now. He’s learned a lot in his (short) 30 years, and wants to share this knowledge with everyone through music and his new charity, “Hey, I’m Here for You.” We find out why he chose Nashville to build the first Hey, I’m Here For You Teen Lounge in partnership with Teen Cancer America and his friend Kylie Jenner, and how YOU can help. Plus, stick around until the end to hear a snippet of his newest song, Emotional Hangover! Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: MUD\WTR - Go to mudwtr.com/otv to support the show and use code OTV for 15% off.  ANGI - Your home for everything home.  JENNI KAYNE - Find your forever pieces at jennikayne.com/home, and get 15% off your first order when you use code VINE at checkout.  PROGRESSIVE - Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive. APARTMENTS.COM - The place to find a place. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I hope you enjoy my interview with Harry Hudson today because I sure did. Change my life. Let me know if it changed yours in the comments. Okay, happy birthday. Cheers. This is your wine. Yes. Which is called Pink Agua.

And I would like to know how you came up with the name and why you started a rosé. But first have a sip because it's your birthday. And it's only right to. And it's only right to sip after you say cheers. Oh, that is delicious. It's nice, right? And I'm picky with rosé when I have a rosé. and I when you said sweet I got a little scared but it's delicious thank you that's that's what we

had to yeah I'm like very picky with rosés too and like colors of rosés color is a big thing it's a huge thing yeah and this is just it's subtle it's sweet it's good it's really good we compared it with like all of my favorite rosés and we just like sat down at like a vineyard and we tried them all and then we made this we came up with this one and it was just like I drink this religiously and it's got up yeah no i do the same with mine but i actually wish mine was a little bit lighter i love this color it's beautiful it's like it's not too much and that's why it's pink goggle because it's like has almost like a water has like a touch of like i like that like hits your i'm like hits your tongue like it's just water it's like there's no aftertaste there's no like no like no you're

right it's quite delicious what are your favorite rosés that you compared it to i don't even know the names oh love whispering angel yeah i was good that was good to be my i love like provence or whatever I love. There's one more. I don't know the name, but it's like a fancy little name. But then I was just like, how do I do something that's like for the people, you know? Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, because I am, like you were saying, you're picky with rosé. I'm really picky with certain wines. And so it's hard to make a wine that's not just for me specifically, but like what everybody would like. Because when I did, I used Instagram as like a tool to like what, like a pole and see, do you like sweet? Do you like dry? Like do you like this wine? And everybody wanted a sweet wine, and I don't like sweet wine. So it's cool that you made one that it's like, like, I feel like people who, like, dry would like this and people who, like, sweet would also like this. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's like best about, because I'm not like an avid drinker like that. Yeah, I am. When I do, yeah, I am too. I just didn't want to come off that way. I am like, this is my breakfast. I haven't even eaten today. It's delicious.

Yeah, same. Thank you. Yeah. No, it's really good. Yeah, no. So it's just a family business. Yeah. My uncle created it.

My uncle is a young man. A young man? Yeah, him and my brother are the same age. So they're both 33. Yeah. You have a 33-year-old uncle? Yeah. How old are you?

30. Yeah. Oh. The math ain't math in for me, but that's okay. Yeah, yeah. And he's half Chinese and white. And he, is he in the wine business, or did you guys just decide? He's in the wine business.

Okay, okay, got it. He looks like my brother's twin, so it's weird. Really? Yeah, I grew up thinking about two brothers, but one was Chinese and. Maybe you should do like a 23 in me, and maybe he is actually. I don't think he is, but he could be. Yeah. I did a 23 and me, and I had like 45 cousins reach out that I never heard from being like, we need things.

Yeah. No, did you really? Yeah. And I was like, what? Like, we had no idea what was happening, but. Oh, my gosh. I keep getting emails saying, like, this is your first or second cousin. And I was like, what is happening?

I didn't know. This is your fourth and fifth cousins. And, like, they all reached out because my number is on it and my emails are on it. Oh, no. That's your first mistake. Yeah. You got to be private. Well, I just wanted to be with my people.

Oh, and then your people were like, give us money. Yeah, give us things. We see you have millions of followers on Instagram. Give us money. They're like, give me everything. No, I was just like, and then it just said I was like racist. I had no idea I was. Yeah.

So like. And so what are you? Like mostly like Russian. Oh, yeah. Okay. And Irish and Swedish, Italian. Nice. I'm jealous.

I like to pretend I'm Italian, but I'm definitely not. You're Italian. Sure. in my mind I am but on paper I'm definitely not I'm like very very British and a little Irish and a little Native American Why don't you come with the accent?

Like the British one? Are you from here? I'm from Canada Yeah well What part of Canada So I grew up in a really small town called La Duke And it's right by Edmonton If you know where that is

And then I moved to Vancouver when I was 19 And then I moved to Nashville six years ago which we'll get into. Yeah. You have a special place in Nashville. Okay. Let's get into it. Wait, we were talking astrology.

Are you into astrology? Yeah. I like, I have an astrologist on my podcast sometimes because I'm so fascinated by it. And then I like to pretend I'm really knowledgeable, but then people ask me questions. Like you just said, you're a Libra. I'm like, what fuck that? Yeah, same. I'm the same way.

I just know about myself because I'm selfish. Totally. Because we're Gemini's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, at least we can relate.

For the worst. Yeah, we are. I don't know. But at least I can admit it. I can totally, I'm very self-aware. Like we said, in my dreams, I'm self-aware, and in real life, I'm very self-aware. I know I'm a crazy bitch, and I know I have a big heart. Yeah. Same.

Yeah. Yeah. That should be like a memoir by us. Yeah. Crazy bitch with a big. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah.

A couple crazy bitches with big hearts. Yeah. I like that. So I was doing a little research. You're kind of hard to research, though, because you deleted a lot of stuff on Instagram. Everything. Why? Just like, I don't, I don't know.

Different stages in life, maybe? Different stages in life, and I didn't want, you know, I think I just get weird and I'm like, I just want to really focus on my art right now with it. And so right now it's just kind of like going towards that instead of I had the Instagram for more lifestyle things and I really started it to show my cancer journey. And sometimes I don't like looking back at those pictures and things. That's fair. Just wasn't, you know, and then there's old music that came out.

I just didn't want to show people like the. process. I want people kind of get to know me and start doing like something like this. Yeah. Because I'm really bad for the social media. Are you? Not my vibe. And it's like, because I know way too many people. I know way too many people personally. Yeah. Like all these fans follow people for like zero reason. Yeah. Because they like look amazing or they have this lifestyle that's not even tangible or even real or, you know. And so for me like what is a selfie going to do when there's 5,000 million, 100 million selfies getting posted it. It's like...

I know. I think I just posted one like an hour ago. But that's like the fucking process. And for me, like, I don't want to be a hater on it because I love, I love a lot of stuff for social media and I love promoting your art and promoting yourself if that's what you want to do. It's such a cool platform, but you have to use it wisely and take it in wisely. Yeah.

And I go to depression a lot and things like that. So I'm like, I'm not trying to compare and compete and do all these things. things with people. Yeah. And I feel like I catch myself doing that. Well, that's good for you for being aware and, you know, not feeding yourself with that kind of stuff because I do it and I know I'm doing it. Yeah.

I'm like, wow, I'm comparing myself right now and I literally go to bed depressed because I just saw this and I feel like I'm getting old and it's me all the time. That's human nature and I'll talk to some of my friends who have like, you know, the biggest stars or whatever and they're like, it's, oh, we always compare. We always compete. Really? That's just human nature. nature. And there is a healthy way to do it, but I feel like nobody really does it in a healthy

way on social media. No. Yeah. Because it's like, oh, well, this person has this. It's just too much. And I got a lot of following and I got a lot of, you know, the engagement and all this stuff when I was sick. And then it's like, the engagement goes, it's just like things where I'm like, I just don't, I'd rather show who I am with, like mine. I think podcasting is good for you. Yeah. I just feel like I, it's so hard to show personality through social media for me. It is. Yeah. I try and show. good and bad on my social media, but then people are like, why are you crying on social media? You're just doing it for attention. And then I'm like, wait, am I doing it for attention?

And I wanted to talk to you about this because you did on site earlier this year. I did Hoffman. Have you heard of Hoffman? Yes. So I did Hoffman in January. And it was like such a obviously eye-opening experience. And like I was so, I was so enlightened after that I like didn't want to go back to real life. Did you feel that same way? Absolutely. It was so, I called it awareness. Yeah, I called it awareness hell. I was like, I came back and I was just like aware of all of my patterns and other people's patterns and I didn't want to be the pattern police and I was overthinking everything and I was like oh god I want to go back to the safe place yeah that's how I still feel yeah yeah it's a lot and but it's like being aware

enough to go seek help and knowing that it's out there yeah things like that is just like very important because I'm always I'm just a high the highest highs and the lowest lows there's no middle ground for me yeah and so I'm trying to find that yeah I feel the same way but I feel like With, okay, maybe I'm just talking out of my ass, but I feel like musicians or artists, I feel like that people relate to it. And when it's like a reality star, they hate on it. Like, if I talk about my high highs and low lows, I find that people are like, you're kind of crazy. Like, you should get help and you should look, but if it's, you're an artist, they're like, beautiful. Yeah, put it in the art, die young or whatever they want to say.

It's like, it's like, I don't know. I feel like just people are people, you know, and it's like whatever you choose. Have you always been kind of a spiritual person, or did it happen from getting sick? It did. Yeah, for sure happened when I got sick because I was just very, like, insecure-driven still come with a little bit of that. But I think I was trying so hard to be something I wasn't growing up and trying to fit in places I didn't. And, you know, I knew what made me happy, like, personally, but I never expressed it or never was, like, outspoken that I wanted to make music. where I wanted to do this, I just kind of like was in a hole and just like, was a chameleon

and adapted to everybody that was around me. Yeah. And then after I got sick, it was kind of like, am I going to die? Am I not? Right. And if I don't, then I'm going to, you know, go after a life that I truly believe that I can live or like, you know, be the best version of myself and be the truest version of myself, right? And so when I did get the second chance, then I'm like, okay, who am I as a person?

And I started obviously getting into more spiritual things and following, you know, different paths and I read this book called the autobiography of a yogi. Oh. And that book. Would you recommend? Yes. It's very, it's a lot. Yeah. You know, it's one of those just like if you don't have patience. Yeah. But you have to, it kind of has to call on you. Okay. I don't think I'm the first. Oh, I started Canadian there. I don't think. I don't think I'm the first person to say this. But I really believe that the way you start your day can affect your entire day. So I try to have a couple little routines that get me feeling my best in the

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yeah and and so how did you find out your diagnosis super super super super super wild it was um a rainy day no i'm kidding it wasn't at all um no it was i have asthma like really bad asthma and it was the same day i was like getting my first record deal wow and i left this label so excited and just the best day of my life like everything's going to change i'm going to be famous and shit yeah whatever like i just thought like i had this different idea of what my life wanted to be right and then I go to sleep at night and my mom woke me up because she heard like me like choking in my sleep or something she's like yo like we got to take you to the ER like what the fuck like okay you know because I wasn't thinking she's like you're choking

in your sleep like I can't have you go back to bed we have to just see what's wrong so we go to the ER and I'm doing these like asthma medicine you know like the puffs and like whatever treatments and things like that and this is like this is where the spiritual everything lines up the head of the hospital so we're in the ER yeah it's like three in the morning so no one's there I'm the only person that's really there yeah and the head doctor of like the hospital like the heads of it he left his laptop and his bag in the office and so he came back at three in the morning to go pick it up and he had to like go through the ER to get into the hospital and he sees me like coughing or whatever sitting in like a chair he's like what's wrong with you?

you and I was like oh I'm having an asthma attack he's like cough for me and I cough he's like come with me and so we go into like the pet scans and the cat scans and the MRIs and it turns them all on like turns the lights on plugs them all in like turns them all on puts me in them and then you know it's like an hour and a half later I just see him walking down the hall and I'm like oh fuck I like you knew yeah I also knew because I was having dreams as a kid that was going to get cancer. What? Yeah. Like a lot of that. And when he was walking down the hall, like I saw it before it felt like, and I was like, oh man, like my mom's with me and I'm like, fuck. And he gets on his knee and it's like, this is the worst part about my job. And he puts up like the x-rays or

whatever and it's just like tumors everywhere. And he was like, you know, you need to start chemo like today. Oh my gosh. And so my mom's like having a break down and I'm like a funny guy so I react to like to funny things like when it's so serious I'm just a funny person so I'm like mom it's all good like it's chill like it's so chill and like I'm just like in shock well did it help you process it that you had had these visions before or later I like I was like I just kind of knew but I was like damn and I don't know if I manifested for myself I didn't know what that was but it was I mean the biggest shock of my life so I was like what the and did they give you like a chance like did they say like

you have 90% chance. Like, what did they say? They thought it was, like, stage four leukemia because you didn't know right away. So it was, like, in their head, like, you have, like, two months. Oh, my God, I just felt sick to my tummy. And, like, they're like, this is, like, bad, bad. Like, my mom's like, did we catch it early? And they're like, absolutely not.

Like, he needs to, like, today, like right now needs to go to get surgery and do, like, you know, open chest, like get some of the tumors out, see what it is, like, whole thing. and biopsies and things like that spinal taps like all that and so like it went from like being excited about this record deal to like him I ain't gonna live right and so like a week I've never had like surgeries in my life and then I had like three and like two weeks or a week and then we started chemo like right away but had pneumonia so they had to get rid of the pneumonia before I started chemo because like you would die like automatically because like your body wouldn't be able to fight anything wow pretty much things and it was just like so intense and I was like

what the fuck just happened with my life right now And it wasn't like a light thing. I'm like, oh, here's like chemo pills. And there's a lot of people who like do things like that. It was just like, let's intense and go right now. And how long did you have to do that for? About a year. Wow.

So in that year, you're going through all of that. As a 20-year-old who just thought, you know, I'm about to have my life changed, which it did. Yes. In a much different way. Absolutely. Were you able to still work while you were. going through that yeah so that's the thing like i probably wasn't my doctor was very like i should have wore a mask and gloves yeah which i did some days but a lot of the days was like

mental yeah you know and i was referred to this one story that um my first chemo i sat next to this woman and she like grabs my hand and she's like you know this shit's gonna suck right like this is gonna be fucked up yeah and she's like don't let it become who you are just show like at school show up like it's a nine to five do the work put it in but like what do you love to do just holding my hand and i'm like so scared that like it's like a nine-hour session of just like straight you're in a room it's like super fluorescent lighting and you're with like 10 other people that are dying right in front of you and i'm the youngest by like 50 years yeah yeah so i as a 20 year old i am no longer pediatric patient so 19 and under is pediatric 20 is up as adult

Oh, so you were with like a... 60-year-old, 80-year-old. Like, you know, so everyone's looking at me like, I'm the grandchild. I'm like, you shouldn't be here, but I'm like, I'm fucking here. I don't know what any of this is going to do. Right. So that made me really depressed because I'm like, oh, like, there's nobody I can relate to. So this woman's next to me, she grabs my hand, and she's like, what do you love to do?

I'm thinking, and I'm like, I love to make music. She's like, would you die for music? Like, would you die for it? and I'm, like, I'm dying right now, so I don't know. Right. You know what? I'm thinking my head wide. And like I said before, I was like, am I making music to try to, like, be something? Yeah.

Right? And that was the kind of music I was making at that time to, like, get me that record deal. It was, like, trying to, like, please someone else. Uh-huh. So I'm like, that, like, blocks it. I'm like, do I even like or am I doing it for, to gain something out of it? And then I circle back into, like, the beginning stages of my life of, like, how music saved everything and any childhood trauma I had my escape was like putting on headphones and listening

to artists and different songs and music and remembering lyrics and writing lyrics down and poetry and all my classes and like growing up like the pages weren't notes they were songs and yeah poetry and rhymes and ideas and things of like oh this like saved my life yeah i was like yes i would die for music right and she's like okay so no matter how sick you are no matter how tired you are no matter how nauseous or how bad you're feeling, always put music before the cancer. She's like whether you show up to the studio for five seconds or ten minutes or you're watching someone else record or you're just listening to it

or you're writing it in this room, music before cancer. And I was like, whoa, okay. And she's like, you have to focus. Like that's like your way out. And then she's like, you have friends and family. Yes. She's like, okay, music, friends, family, cancer. Right?

So she kind of built this list out. And she's like you have to. This woman, I love her. Name's Bonnie, and sadly she passed away, like, a week after that. No. Yeah. And so, like, that was the only time I ever met her. It was, like, this one time she changed my full.

She changed everything. Yeah. And, like, don't even know her last name. I don't know. I just remember this, like, woman with a pink wig who was just, like, showing me her art because she was, like, she was a high school teacher and an artist, but she knew she had, her time was coming, so she was traveling the world and painting what she was, like, always wanted to see. You know, going on safari and going to the Amazon and going to these places around the world,

So she really inspired you to. Because she's like, don't be like me and wait until I know that I'm dying to go after everything. Yeah. Right. And that really changed perspective of like, okay, like I don't want to do that. Yeah. And another thing she said was write down, like, she was like my, how old are you? I was like, I just turned 20 because it was that week.

Yeah. And she was like, oh, like the 20s were my favorite years, but I don't remember any of them. And I wish I had a journal because I wish I had like. could remember the stories and all those things right and so the next day i got a journal and it's like i always keep a journal on me like whether it's just like a little like blurb of something but every day i try to write something yeah you know to try to remember the because i'm like if i write a little bit then i can try to remember the day uh-huh but i think that like that changed my life as well so it was like little trinkets of just like gems yeah i feel like she was so close to the other side

so she was like you need to hear this right wow bless bonnie i feel like you should name like a rose her yeah or like an album or something yeah that's it's so uh i i always my so my dad goes he's been 30 years sober and he always says it he hates that people need to hit that rock bottom or that like moment where you don't know if you're going to survive to live the life that they realize they should to have that perspective and it's just so horrible but then at the same time do you look back because i know you said you delete a lot of stuff from instagram because you don't like to look back do you ever look back on your journals and like look back on that time and sometimes i do sometimes i do i and then sometimes i'm like ew you know like i'm like oh i don't want to like see

what else you know it's just it's like blurbs and they're really for like my future kids or grandkids yeah you know i want to like have like a safe full of just journals where people can just go in and be like what was this dude like you know that's a great i always wish i did i for some reason there's something about writing that's i don't know why it's i'm always so happy and feel better after I do it, but for some reason, I'm really stressed out when I do write. Because, like, people are perfectionist, and you're like, what am I saying? But then it's like, you're not reading it, you're not doing it for anybody else. You're doing it for, like, your brain farts, pretty much.

You're like, let me just fucking get things out, you know, and. Yeah, I think it, I like, when every time I write, I feel like it needs to be some deep, like, life-changing thought instead of. But also, like, if you're writing negative, like, this is what I, if you're writing anything negative, rip it out and burn it later. I do that. Um, if you're writing anything positive, just, like, leave it in there because, like, what you put down is kind of just manifesting to the universe.

Yeah. And does the journaling help with songwriting? It does, yeah. Yeah. A lot because it's like therapy. It's all going to the studio, but what did I write? Yeah. I'm pissed off today and this is why, you know, and I'll sit down with my producer and he'll

be like, okay, like, this is how that sounds. Yeah. Yeah. So you talk about manifesting and I, everyone that listens to this podcast knows it. That's like, I'm such a believer. I feel like I've done it my whole life. and I'm like exactly where I knew I would be and I saw it like you said you had dreams about seeing that you had cancer and I always had dreams two things that I would go on reality television and that I get shot not on reality TV but like in life and I have there they were so vivid and now like I have these fears everywhere I go that I'm going to be involved in a shooting I'm not going to put it out there anymore but that was like my vivid dream but I always knew that I was going to be on reality TV and I would like see myself in I was on The Bachelor and I would like see myself in these I they're called ITM so in the moment interviews okay and I didn't even know what that looked

like like I didn't know that they actually did that on TV until I was there but I had had the dreams that I was in that chair oh having those so now I get freaked out too where remember before we were recording we're like we have to separate like dreams from reality because you like is this a manifestation or is this like real but I feel like um you probably thought you know I'm going to be a musician you probably knew in your, like, heart that you would. Did you ever see yourself writing the kind of music that you do now? No. No, not at all.

I think because it was also like this, like, fear, right? And when I started making music, I was more, like, rapping. I think anybody who starts making music, like, it's just easy to, like, because I loved rhymes. I didn't know how to even sing. I wrote a rap. I love it. I'll show you after. Okay, I'll say, quick.

We'll play at the end of this. Yeah. Um, no, I just, it was easy to get my, like, thoughts out. Yeah. And blurb and all that, whatever. Um, I never knew I wanted to sing until really, like, I was, like, 20 until I got really sick. Yeah. And-

So that really made you change. Everything. Everything. Yeah, because the music I was making was very, like, pop and, like, very, like, I don't know. it just wasn't me right and I made a project my first album yesterday's tomorrow night and it was really catered to like my dad and him liking my music yeah because we grew up with like folk and country yeah like that's the only things I would listen to as a kid and so as I got older I'm like that's lame I was always like that's lame as a kid right like I want to listen to whoever at the time

yeah and I think I made this project after because I was writing during and I was writing things when I was sick. And then after, like, it just kind of, like, it took me a minute to find that sound and to find, like, me just with a guitar and having these folk instruments and, you know, creating this, like, kind of character. Yeah. So, like, my first project, you can see I made a short film, like, everything is, like, with this red cowboy hat.

Yeah. Because my dad, like, loved Western. So everything was kind of catered towards him. And weirdly enough, like, the week my album was coming out. My dad passed. Oh, gosh. Like, out of nowhere. Out of nowhere?

I don't know. Oh, wow. And so, like, I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. Right? Because that was like my biggest, like, that was like my best friend in this world, right? And so it was really weird because I made this whole project not knowing just to kind of impress him. And that kind of like did this trajectory of like what I'm supposed to do.

Right. So I kind of make this music for him still and for myself, but it's the easiest way to like, my songs are heavy. Yeah. You know, a lot of people like, whoa, like people come up to me and it's the heavy. conversations. It's not like, I listen to your song when I'm fucking or like some shit like that. It's like, oh, your song makes me want to dance. It's like, it's really like, it probably gets them through their possible times. Yeah. And I'm like, that's 200,000 songs get released a week, you know, and it's like for me as my character, as my journey as an artist, mine is pretty much

opening up a journal for somebody to not feel alone, right? And that's how I want to embrace my artistry, my music. I'm like, okay, like, it helps me release shit. And then a lot of people reaching out being like, you made me cry all morning with the song and things like that. And you're such an inspiration because you survived like the impossible. And then all of a sudden when you go through something and you're where you're supposed to be like, everything just starts to align with, like you might not even realize it's happening, but you're supposed to be making this music, but it wouldn't have happened unless this. And then you, you know, your dad had such a connection to country music, which makes you then want to open something like you did in

Nashville, which I want to talk about. Like, everything just aligns the way it should, which it's like dark and twisty, but also beautiful. And that's life in general, you know, and a lot of people put on fronts about, like, I have a lot of artist friends, you know, and like some of them have crazy big songs or whatever. Then now as they get older, they're like, oh, I'm turning into like who I actually am and the art I want to make, right? And that's with everybody. It's always going to change. And just being aware of the change. And for me, I'm like, oh, I want to create something that's, someone can just feel, feel, period. You know, they can just feel something.

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situations. Music to me is just like obviously so healing to a lot of people, but you also have like, tell me about the meditation music that you do. So now that's all the new songs I'm releasing, which I'm releasing one this week. It's called Emotional Hangover. And it all comes with a meditation version. So I just released a song called Lighthouse two weeks ago. And I just sat down with my producer because I was like,

just thinking everyone's like to spit up versions or slow down versions or ballad version or, you know, there's just so many types of versions of a song. And I was like, what about the version that I'm not on, but it's still, it's my song. And we just take the chords that we play to stretch it out. add bird sounds and add noises and soundscapes and then kind of bring it into a meditation version so take like a two minute 30 second song and stretch it out to make it's like six minutes right so as much time as like a beginner should take when they're meditating so someone who's like I can't meditate and sit there in my back straight for four hours which is people don't want to it's like journaling

you don't want to start because it's like too scary yeah they're scared where their mind would go all you have to do is take your mind nowhere yeah and so listening to something for five minutes closing your eyes and it'll be over before you know it and you're like okay things look more vivid and I okay my conversations for the day is going to be better than quick and rude or you know because I go through that so if I'm not meditating then I kind of turn into like an asshole but I don't mean to it just because I'm thinking of 400 different things in my brain and then I feel like I'm not doing enough or I'm feeling overwhelmed and then it turns out like in my reactions or in my interactions with people.

And then I'm like, that's whack because that's not who I am. Same. Sometimes I feel like I'm having like an out-of-body experience. For me, on my journey, I want to take people with me. I'm very open book, right? So I'm like, I just want people to, if you listen to me and if you like the music, you're obviously on a path that you can understand or relate. And that's why people come up to me and it's heaviness, right?

Because I can relate. Are you an empathetic person too, like where that heaviness, like it means so much to you to hear these people say these things. that you have to, and then you carry it with you too. Which is also hard. I know. Like, you know, I was just out, I spoke at this college the other week, and, you know, it was supposed to be a Q&A, but I was like, I'm going to hang out for an hour and a half, like,

after, and no one asked a Q&A, and everybody wanted to talk to me personally because everything was so personal. Yep. Right? And I'm like, okay, so the line was like out the door and people just coming, and everything was just heaviness in a beautiful way because these kids are so understanding, especially like this new generation. Oh, I know, isn't it?

I'm like, oh, like, they're very, they're very present and awoke. And, you know, but those conversations, like, it's not easy. It's, you know, my dad died last week, you know, I was molested. You know, I have cancer still, or I'm battling it, or my family doesn't talk. It's just, like, things are, like, real life, and we all go through it. It's just about how you want to express and talk about it. So I'm taking it, like, whoa, you're talking to me. You know, like, I don't see myself as anything except just being this person that sees.

like everything's like a movie so I'm like okay here's a mic I'm supposed to talk to you right okay the song is about to start and the lights turn off and have okay I'm supposed to sing the thing I wrote right like it doesn't click that like anything else it just feels like I'm this character yeah I'm living so I'm taking all this in and then I leave and we go get dinner and I'm crying hysterically you know and I'm like angry and I want to break things and I'm like okay I'm just caring too much I need to just chill because to them it's like a conversation and it obviously mean so much to the both of you, but it's one conversation where then the next person has that conversation, and then the next person, and you're taking all of those different emotions

on. Totally, which I love, but it's like you have to have the come down. So that's meditating and that's just sitting still and that's not trying to react and be crazy and be angry. I'm like, okay, and I'm aware of it. So I'm like, I need an hour. Don't talk to me. Don't do anything. Yeah, you recharge when you're like alone and, yeah, let me play cornhole and like be about myself for a a little bit, you know. Love a cornhole game. I think a lot of people overthink emotions where they think, oh, I have to do something crazy to like, I don't know how to say this. Like it's more you need to just sit still and be silent to process things when they think they need to like, I don't know, go do something crazy or like recharge with friends or go out or go to dinner and get their

mind off it when really just like sitting with the silence is actually going to do so much more for people than they think. Yeah, I think people are just scared to do that because they're like, where, yeah, because, yeah. Like freakouts, but, yeah, I think, and so that's why I'm, like, creating this meditation versions of music. I'm like, I want people to have a chance to just sit. And it's beautiful because you listen to the song first, and then it comes right after.

Yeah. So it's like, okay, I take you on this, like, journey and it was, like, intentional. Have you ever heard of, it's, they're Canadian, but Alexis on fire? Mm-mm. Oh, my God. Okay, so they have, like, pretty, like, heavy music, not heavy in that way, like, almost, like, screaming kind of stuff, which I love. And then this one guy who's the lead singer's name's Dallas Green, and he does acoustic versions of those songs. And it's, like, one of my favorite things to listen to because it depends what kind of mood you're in.

And I feel like for people with your music, it's, they're already in that mood to, like, feel. So to have a meditation version of it is so cool. and nobody's done that. And because I'm like, how do I just stand out in my own little way? Yeah. And it's not like the craziest things

and it's not getting the millions of millions of plays. And it's just like, I like the slow build of everything. Because that's the most authentic way. And I'm like, this is the most me. And to be the most you is difficult

in the industry because you're like, you sell my soul and do something that's not me just to get some money. And then you're like, okay, then you're unhappy at 50 and divorced and fucking, like that's my worst nightmare. I'm not trying to fall into like literally

the every day of every single person that we know like I don't want to do that when I live a life that is very extraordinary and very me that has not been created so I like cutting down the trees and making my own path like every day so I live fucking weird and like that's I feel like everybody should live and so for me it's like

I put out lighthouse two weeks ago and I've been getting such a great response because everyone's like I'm crying and it's so heavy but right after I feel like a release and like a sense of like okay it's like picking you back up yeah right because this whole thing is like like the lyrics like we all get broken some of us don't show it but we're still learning how

maybe someday we'll find out right and it's like this whole thing of every fucking person is a broken person period like i don't care what you say yeah i've been around enough to understand that i've been around literally the wealthiest people in the world the poorest people in the world i understand that everybody is a fucking human and we're all sad yeah right and we have good days but it's mostly sad yeah right and and not in a bad way it's just like we're constantly If you weren't, then you wouldn't be on your phone a lot, right? If you weren't, then you wouldn't be out. If you weren't, you wouldn't have, you know, it's like...

Isn't your brain, your brain's, like, meant to not be happy. It's meant to protect and stay safe. Like, it's... Exactly. It goes back to, like, cavemen days where it's like you remember bad things because then you know to not go back there. It's like survival. And that's how our brains are.

So it's like, that's what people are, like, use people and dog-y-dog world, and I need this, and you give me this. And relationships, especially out here, is. what do you do and what can you do for me or what can I do for it's like and that's why I loved on site or something like that because you're in this like pocket of people and everyone's just talking about life right you sit down on a table hey come sit with me you know what what's going on on your life oh well you know I'm going through this and going through this oh well like I went through this and da da da da da my wife 20 years ago and da da like yeah you just hear real life and

everybody has a story to tell and I feel like everybody has a little bit of knowledge that you don't have and we're all supposed to give it and receive it and you get to do that in those opportunities because you don't have your phone on at onsite or hoffman you don't have your phone you don't talk about what you do you just be which is and I feel like nobody does that and like you leave and like well you're going back into a non-reality place like this is how reality should be but it's not right and then that's kind of bummed me out because I come back and I'm like I'm trying to talk to everybody I see yeah and everyone's like and so I just make sure my my reactions to people are like always a little bit different yeah so it's like how are you doing today at a coffee shop and I'm like honestly

and I'll fucking give them the truth and then you know and like because I'll ask for us how are you like I'll be like how are you doing oh I'm good how about yourself and I'll go fucking in and then that turns that I'm good turns of like can I be honest for you like I'm not good like I just say that because everybody I just say to everybody I just to everything I'm going to this and I'm going through this and these conversations turn into like I look at everybody as my friend that's just how I see life because I feel like that's how you're supposed to see life yeah I'm religious as well and so I feel like everyone how you want to be treated yeah the simple thing of like what would Jesus do right it's like the whether you're religious or not just like that idea of like just don't be a piece of shit right and then we catch ourselves being a piece of shit sometimes and that's totally normal it's a human journey but if you're aware of it then it's like okay how do you want to change and how do you want to be right so i feel like we were talking about earlier the generation that's like you know more in tune with their emotions and stuff and i had this yoga teacher um i still talked to her all the time so she had a session with me the other day where she talked about um now i'm going to screw this up because I think this is your third chakra and do you know okay I could be wrong but I think

thank you um but she was saying like in that world that we've lived in for I think like 200 years it's you think about life as like like you were saying like doggy dog and going like climbing the ladder and getting to the top and thinking about always like looking into like the higher powers and she said in this generation coming up they're moving into the heart chakra where it's like the sharks aren't going to, you know, succeed anymore. It's the people who feel and, like, want to be a light in the world that will make a difference. Totally. And I really do see that happening.

And I feel like you're bringing that out in people with your music, too, which is really cool. And I don't know why I see you in Nashville. I don't know if it's because I know your connection there or you, but would you ever move to Nashville? I'm moving next month. What? Yeah. So the fact that you said that is, like, tapped in. Oh, shit.

And I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, I'm fully moving. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about it. So I'm like, really? Okay. I just like, I already picked my place. I already know where I'm going to be. Really? I'm locked in. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll go for coffee or rosé. So let's talk about Nashville and why you have a special place there. Nashville. See, like, so this is like it goes back to like a long time ago. But so my dad was obsessed with Nashville. Very country. Just wanted to go see everything there. Yeah. Right. And like, let's just. like travel let's go see elvis's house and let's go see johnny cash's place and let's go to the opry and let's go to the hall of fame and let's go like he just had this whole idea of like and he would say it for years and i'm just like what the fuck like i don't want to go to nashville like whatever like i want to go to like london i want to go to you know it's like you think of like i'm like i don't want to go there and this was december of 2017 um he's like you know

we're kind of just going through finance problems and this whole thing at that time and he was like let's just go to nashville and there's me and my brother let's just go and i'm like what the fuck where are we we spend money he's like let's just go for christmas like us three like it'll be really fun and i was like no we're both like we don't want to do that like let's save money let's just chill for a second and he was very like adamant about going and we never got to go and he passed a month and a half later you know and so that fucked my world because i'm like i'm like i wish i would have spent every last time course and that's everybody's regret when like you lose somebody it's like the biggest hell of ever like you can't that's there's nothing worse in losing like someone

like very close to you like especially a parent and I had to go on tour literally a week after my first tour ever was like right after he passed and so like I didn't want to do the tour of course not no and I'm like okay but then I have this tattoo I don't know what's right here but if you look in the mirror it says singers sing and like that's all he said to me because I would be in the living room. He's like, Harry, sing me a song that you wrote. I'm like, no. Like, it's so weird, you know?

I do that to people who sing all the time. I'm like, that loser that I'm like, if you're a comedian, I'm like, tell me a joke. Tell me something funny. Yeah, but it's my dad's like, again, I wanted to impress him the most. So I'm like, you're going to show me if I sound bad. You're going to show me if the lyrics are bad. You know, but like, he's like, come on, please. And he's like, Harry, I don't know what the fuck you know, but like singers sing, right?

He's like singers sing. That's what you're supposed to do. I love that. And, you know, after he passed, I had a show the next day after he passed. And that was my first show. And it was like for like the industry kind of thing for my label and for like publicists and people like that. And we had like an album listening thing and I was performing it. And everyone, like, we totally understand if you're not going to do it.

So it was supposed to be canceled. But like they didn't cancel it because they rented out this place. And like, we're just going to play the songs and people are just going to mingle. And I was like, no, like, I'm going to show up and perform. So I hear him in. He's the greatest support I've ever had, right? And so he's just like, I hear him in my head, like, singers fucking sing. Yeah.

Like, don't not go because of me because that would break his heart even more. So I'm like, okay, like, I'll fucking go and I do that. And then it brings me on, like, this touring journey for two years. And so I never really had proper time to grieve because I'm grieving with fans and people that are coming to my shows. Who are also showing, if they're showing up to my shows, they're going through something. Because I'm very adamant about losing my dad and made this album for him and da-da-da. So people were showing up and showing support. So it was me.

It was a great escape because I got to hear everybody else's problems. and I got to like talk to them right and then when it calmed down and then COVID started and all these things I was like yeah it kind of just hit me crazy but we never got to go to Nashville and so after that first tour I'm like I'm just going to go straight to Nashville and I'm going to take like a couple months off and just like be there yeah and so I was there for like three months two and a half months or something like that and like was moving Airbnbs and just going around and I never felt my dad's presence more than when I was out there. Like catching these sunsets and just being with people and sitting by myself at restaurants

and people like come and sit with us and people being so open and me getting in an Uber and a guy's like you should come over to my wife's house with me and like you we shall have dinner and then you know introduce me to a pastor in the pastures like come to my church on Sunday and I go and then you just it's like this whole like you don't I'm just very open and Nashville has just like a piece of my heart there I'm like ah and then eventually I got to open up this cancer center yeah you know and so that came to me after that oh okay yeah so after that i had an opportunity to go like i'll work with this company called uh teen cancer america and like they are ran by roger daltery and p townsen from the who the band and they created this like

monumental it's one of my favorite charities ever and they what they do is they build out spaces for kids who are pediatric who are you know for me I was 20 doing chemo next to an 80 year old and if you're 19 you're doing chemo next to a three year old right and then so your idea is like oh I shouldn't be alive like they should be living right it's just like right not normal because you're like that's really sad but what you're going through is also really sad and you need to like have patience and be kind to yourself right and so what they do is they step in and they build out spaces for kids to escape right they'll build out a room recording studio sometimes they have a gym sometimes there's a meditation center sometimes there's just cool TVs and what they do is like just

for like 13 to 19 year olds for the teens to have a space where they can hang out and get to know each other because also there's a lot of red flags say if we were doing chemo or similar to age we have similar interests we wouldn't be allowed to be introduced because of like hippo laws and stuff so names and personal information and things like that you can't do that so if we rent into each other in a common ground and you're watching television I like the same show then we have a and then we start being friends and then it's like we exchange numbers and now I know your chemo routine and when you go and when you're out and now we're friends we can hang out in the hospital but so you built out a lounge so people could do that yes in Nashville but team like they came

to me because I was like I'm going to raise money and we we raised the money and they're like there's two options and there's one place that I didn't know and then one place in Nashville yeah but they're like we really want you to do it in Nashville it's kind of like not even my choice And I was like, when, like, as I'm in a question, I'm like, we're definitely doing it in Nashville. Yeah. There's at the Vanderbilt University, like hospital. And yeah, so we've been building that for the last, like, it took like four and a half years, five years to build. So can people help? Like, if you're in Nashville and. So then I started my charity, which is called, hey, I'm here for you. Yeah. Right. And so we built out this space together. I mean, Teen Cancer America. And so it's all, like, it's like a big collab. And Kylie did that with us as well. So, Jenner.

Just kidding. So who's Kylie? She's like the name. But like, yeah, so we did that together. And because she was a part of like my whole like chemo journey and the whole thing. And so we raised the money. And so it's like this big collab with like the three of us. And like this like.

That's awesome. And Teen Cancer America was like behind everything, helped us with everything. And we got to like design the space. And so now then I started my charity, which is, hey, I'm here for you. And that's pretty much being like the fun uncle for teen cancer. America, right? So now it's figuring out, right now there's 150 patients going through the program and what we're trying to do. The way to help right now is we're going to raise money and then figure out what these kids' passions are to help them find their, like, music, right? So I had music

to fall back on. So for a 14-year-old girl who lost her hair, who doesn't know what she wants to do, who's, you know, the head of cheerleading squad or whatever, like, there's so many things that we don't look at. And it's most of these kids, and I talk to them, if they're like very ill, just like it's better if I die sooner so my parents don't have to keep spending money. I see how stressed they are. And like a lot of these kids come from nothing, right? And so it's like, I had a reason to fight because my doctor was like, you're going to get through this.

Because at some point during the chemos, he was like, you're going to beat this, everything's going to be good, and you're going to have your story to tell, and you're going to help a lot of people through music and what you do. You know, and so like, I'm like, I had more reason to fight. I was like, I got to fucking do this and I got to be stronger, and I want to get this done quicker than later and so I'm like I want to create something where I can help kids escape but with something that could be potentially their future right right so if a kid's like I want to learn how to play or Twitch or video games yeah whether they want to build it or learn how to

play or whatever it is it's like then you get them the console then you like get them with there's so many people that were connected to yeah oh yeah so it's like get them with who a big gamer and teach them how to set up and get them streaming and whatever that is so then Like now they're making money and streaming from a hospital room and everyone's like, wow. Like you don't know what that is. Or if someone wants to do makeup or someone wants to be a scientist or whatever it is. So then we're going to start hiring people and like getting volunteers to kind of just like guide these kids. Yeah.

To give them hope to be like, hey, like you want to design a shoe. Then I call it like new balance, right? And I'm like, hey, these kids want to design something or show them like there's going to be a benefit in this instead of just a moment. There's got to be something there, like a mental shift. Which I believe. There's trillions of dollars into the cure of cancer, like trillions. Right. What the fuck?

It's like, I don't care. Like, I'm like, keep doing that. Keep trying to find the cure. I love it. But like, these kids don't, like, it's not going to happen anytime soon. This is a weird thing to say, but it'll make sense. I couldn't fall asleep at my hotel in like the middle of the night. So I put on Gray's Anatomy.

And I remember hearing, I just remember this right now. I remember her saying, like, the server. survival rate of like younger kids are so much higher because they believe they like you know they think certain things in the hospital are like fairy dust and they just have this like magical belief and they survive more because of that uh i just remembered her hearing this nurse say that now i'm thinking about it and i'm like that's there's got to be truth to that yeah i mean i had like i was just thinking about music the whole time right and so i'm like and and that bonnie yeah you know like was your inspiration to for her to like put that in your brain for you

you to think about that to put something above the cancer where that's now what you're going to do. So that's what I'm like doing the slow build, right? And so right now we're just focused on Nashville because a lot of other hospitals like, we want to build one. We want to do this. And I'm like, that's amazing and that's the dream. Yeah. But I'm like, I want to be the most transparent charity. Yeah. So if you gave me whatever right now, I can be like, hey, we use this to buy a computer. We use this to buy this and that and this. And these are the kids that are using it. And so you can just understand where it's going because I'm telling you, like, there's something in, like, I feel it that, like, once it's ran right, then we can just, like, domino effect it and have people just, like, copy the program. Yep.

But I really believe that if you cater to the individual, there's no charities catering to individuals. You know, make a wish, but it's like a, it's like a quick moment. Right. Right. It's not like a, let me help you figure out what you want to do for the rest of your life. And then you have, again, I'm going back to the, the mental aspect of it for them to be thinking about their future instead of. Think about what they're going through right now.

Because you don't think about a future we're in high school. No. You're thinking about going to high school. You want to go to prom. You want to play football or you want to play sports or soccer. It's literally manifesting for these kids. So now it's like, hey, we're going to skip a lot. We're adults.

Yeah. And then it's like we're going to skip a lot of time right now. And we're going to understand what you want, right? Because now these kids are just got out of COVID so they didn't go to school for two and a half years. three years and then now it's like okay what do you want to do right and that's a big reason why i want to move to Nashville yeah is so i can just go there and sit down with them and be like build personal relationships so then i can figure out how to actually help yeah right and so kids want to learn how to do makeup right then you it's easy to get someone to oh my gosh you can get

so many makeup artists or even makeup companies to give what a gift and come by and do like master classes for the kids and teach them, but I don't want to create a moment. I want to create like if they're going to get involved, like, I don't want you to just show up once and never show up again. It's going to be after like, you're going to have to get information from the kids and start an email thread or a big text message and like start like helping them out. I mean, I would love to help or be involved in anyway. Well, now you're stuck. Now you're going to have to. No, I want to. I just think this is like I'm always, I wonder if you could, I have a two service animals. I wonder, can you bring them in? You can use service animals, but like,

lot of the kids it's like you could be allergic or whatever and so it's like you know it's figuring out because some kids might want that you know and so then it's like catering to the kid you don't have a you know a pet stay with you all day right you know or when you're going through treatment this week or whatever then so how can people help if they're in national and how can they help if they're not like is there a link you guys have or is so we're releasing everything on the 21st this month okay um which is the like 10 year of me like being done with treatment. So I was done on June 21st, 2014. Wow. And that was like my last treatment. I had chemo treatment. And so we're releasing the

whole thing 10 years later, like on the 21st this month. We're on a website and there's going to be like an email thread like volunteer. Okay. Amazing. You know, and so we're going to kind of just put people in a thread and kind of see how they could help because it can be like a big sister, big brother program. It can be donations. It could be, you know, somebody might be a fan of yours and wanted to start a podcast or do something and then you can just like. And they have a recording studio at Vanderbilt too, right? Like Ryan Sechrist. Yeah.

I went there a few years ago and got to do a little radio show. No way. Yeah. Okay. Sick. Yeah. So like that. Yeah.

Amazing. So you know exactly what I'm talking about. So yeah. So that's what something like that would be awesome. If kids want to do something in that realm, then it for sure. Because it's like I want to have people help that like genuinely have a passion for helping. Yeah. It's also intense.

Of course. I'm like, these kids deserve the world, you know, and I just want to, because I want to do it for my whole life. Like, that's, like, my biggest, like, that's why I'm here, I feel. I was going to say that, yeah. And so I'm like, I want to figure, that's why it's been taking so long, because everyone's like, you said to sign up a while ago. And I'm just like, I just don't want to rush it. Yeah, no, you have to, it's, it's your project and your journey and. Because you want to do it right.

You want to have a kid, be like, I want to make music. And then the next week is like, I hate it. Like, I want to do, I want to be a pro football player. They're like, okay, like, I need to figure out what, like, how, and how do we figure that out? Yeah. Because that's amazing that we, let's try shit. Because we're here, you know. There's so many good people in Nashville.

I feel like that would be willing to help, so. Yeah, there, everyone is, like, all willing to help. Okay, well, where can people go to, you know, like, stay informed and I'm sure, do, will you put it on, um, Instagram? I'll put it on, um, Instagram and then, yeah, you'll follow it all on, like, Instagram and things like that. And then I'll put it, I'll share it on. my um social media too for when it's yeah when releases because i'll just send like the music that's

coming out and then the 21st when the hyphy comes out okay am here for you i could say hyphy because it's just easier okay abbreviate i like it oh that's cool yeah so you can find it at ham herefor you dot org okay um and that's that's that's that's where you'll find it i'll post it on instagram and we'll get the word out and all the social media things yeah i'll make sure a lot of people post it too so i'm like don't be a don't be a dick don't be a dick yeah post this is for the kids Another book we should write. You've seen Entourage? Yeah, of course.

You know the episode where Matt Damon has a charity? Yes. And he's like, come on. I was like, I need to start a charity so I can hit up everybody I know and be like, you know, because I don't want to ask for favors, like for personal reasons. I'm like, it's for the fucking kids. So I'm going to hit up everybody. Like, give me all your money.

Like it's for the fucking kids. It's a great excuse. Yeah. So ham herefew.org. Oh, you're still. See, this is how you know I don't plug shit. I make music and you can find it on Spotify, all Apple, Apple, music, all the other

things. And all the meditations are on Spotify as well. On Spotify. You'll see it. So I just put out a song called Lighthouse two weeks ago. It's beautiful. It's sad. It has a meditation version. I have a song coming out this week called Emotional Hangover. I love that. It's more fun. It's more fun. Oh, a little dancey vibe.

Oh, and we're going to play a little clip of it right now for everybody to listen. So here it is Emotional Hangover. On 97.6, Caleb Bristow FM. here you go laughing to ourselves when we lie away

always pay the price for the shit we don't say emotional hang over just moved to West LA new lease and a white Mercedes she's on the right pay I hate that I drive a crazy

I hate that I'm unstable it's hard for me to say no picked up bad habits from my firm out the kitchen table, say sorry for the baggage, I care of me, I didn't mean to put it all on you. Right down in February, I woke up in true. I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday.

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