Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Hayley Paige

Episode Date: January 9, 2018

Creative visionary and head designer of Hayley Paige, Hayley Paige joins Kaitlyn in the studio to talk about the method behind her art, her new show Hayley Ever After on TLC, and her dos-and-...donts for wedding dresses...including Kaitlyn's! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:27 Podcast One presents Off The Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Caitlin is creating a space where girls and gents can feel empowered to be themselves. Get ready for lots of laughs, tabby topics, on filtered advice, and wine. Lots of wine. Get ready to shake things up. Here's Caitlin. All right. Everyone, welcome to Off the Vine.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I am your host, Caitlin Bristow. This is my second podcast. It's only 1254 p.m. I was like, no, I'm like not, p.m. Second podcast, so clearly the wine has been flowing. So forgive me, Haley, for anything that comes out of my mouth. Always forgiven. Always forgiven.
Starting point is 00:02:15 My guest this week did The Unthinkable. She found my inner bride. Oh, my gosh. She found my inner bride. You read about it, but until it actually happens. Everybody welcome Haley Page in the studio. Yay. The crowd goes wild.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Caitlin pours wine. Oh, wine not. Wine not. Put in the wine and why not. That was going to be my podcast name, Why Not? I love that. But I figured I could just say that in every podcast and call it off the vine. I agree.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Because off the vine's different. Why not? I feel like it's out there. It's a meme somewhere. It has to be. It has to be. Or like no venophobia. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:53 What? The fear of running out of wine. Did you just, is that a thing? I think I saw it as a meme. I can't take credit for it. Say that again? No venophobia. No venophobia.
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Starting point is 00:03:16 Cheers to you. You found my inner bride. Like, how does that make you feel? Nobody's done that. It definitely feels like I'm kind of a fairy godmother or a fairy godmother. You are a very bridemother. Bridemother. That's kind of stupid.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Okay, explain yourself. If people don't know, they're clueless. But who is Haley Page? Oh my gosh. She is overrated. She is absolutely not. A total diva. No.
Starting point is 00:03:44 No, I'm just from California and I love things that are shiny. Is that how it all started? So you're, what would you say your job type? Like, you are Haley Page and that is your brand. and that's who you are and it's what you do, and it's people know that name. How do you describe your job? I'm definitely a designer, first and foremost, I guess, from a professional standpoint. A designer.
Starting point is 00:04:08 But obviously, there's such a personal representation now with everything brand-related. So luckily, I am Haley Page, so that makes it easy. Very easy. It's a great name, too. Thank you. And I love your signature that you. Oh, hell, yes. What's your middle name?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Well, Paige is my middle name. Oh. So, yes. Wait, but do you use your married last name? Freaky, right? Yeah, so my married last name is Wallace. Okay. So Haley pages of your middle name.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Oh, okay, I like that. It's very pretty. Thank you. Yeah. My mom says thank you, too. I guess my dad had to help with that. I can't leave your mouth. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Oh, that's so cool. Okay, so you're a designer in New York City. Yes. And you, but you were born in California. That's born in California. Actually, I was born in Denver, but I grew up in California. Okay. And you knew right from the get-go.
Starting point is 00:04:55 that you wanted to be a designer. I loved. I mean, that was like my dream job. Really? I just, I wasn't afraid, I was afraid that it was kind of more of a pipe dream, like wanting to be an actress or, you know, an astronaut or something. Yeah. So I kind of always lacked a little bit of the confidence in executing when I was growing up.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So my dad's a doctor, and I was like, you know what, I'm going to be a reconstructive surgeon someday and, you know, do the whole medicine route. Right. Because it felt very formulaic to me and seemed right. But I kept kind of just getting distracted by pretty dresses and coming back to it and seeing it as like a craft and a passion. So not until I got to college did I really, really kind of take it seriously. Oh, but it's, okay, so it was always like a hobby. It was always something you're passionate about something that you enjoyed, but you didn't really hone in on it until college.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah, I think that's when my skill set really developed. But I also mentally felt like, okay, I could actually do this for a living. I could play dress up for a living. Yeah. And now I wonder not to get to. specific or anything, but did your dad support that? Or was he like, you should be a doctor? Actually, he loved it. That's great. He was all, like, both my parents were very encouraging on the creative front. I think they would have to be for you to actually succeed in something like that. So it's
Starting point is 00:06:07 so nice to have support of people who love you because they probably see, oh, that makes her happy. That's so true. I mean, having somebody that champions for your success, especially when it's something that is kind of risky in a way, wanting to do something creative for a living. So I am all about risky taking risks like if it's something that you love and that you want to do and not knowing the outcome so true because i mean there's so many people out there miserable doing something that just makes the money uh walker hayes i had him on my podcast and he was a prime example of that i loved talking to him he's a country singer and um he's got he's got six kids and one on the way so he's about to be a dad of seven and he always really believed in his um
Starting point is 00:06:51 gift and skill and that he is a singer and a songwriter but he'd take other jobs you know he worked at costco and he did what he had to do to support he's first and foremost he wants to support his family but he knew what made him happy and he wanted to show his kids to do what makes you happy no matter what that means maybe you struggle a little bit to support but you still always do what means something to you and he was just on good morning america like two days ago in times square like singing his new song and he's in his 30s and it took him a while to get there but like he always believed in what he wanted and had the support of his wife and and now is killing it. The persistence.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah. The persistence in doing something that you love and I mean, obviously nobody who believes in themselves at the age of like four. So, yeah. So you know, you go through school and you go to college and then you're like, wait. And you need validation too. I think there's nothing wrong with, you know, just feeling like people are in your corner and it's empowering to see people that take that route.
Starting point is 00:07:48 and I feel a lot of people don't succeed because they do give up or they feel daunted by how many people are already in that space. Oh, 100%. So it's hopefully. And even no matter what, you still will, like even being, I feel like pretty good about my podcast. But I'm like, there's going to be a new upcoming crop of beautiful, funny, hilarious women on the Batsar who are, everyone's doing the podcast thing now.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And then Sean's like, that's great. He goes, that's great for you because everyone will see how great you are. And I'm like, oh, Sean, Sean, always knows. right thing to say. Well, no, not always sleep. Wait a second. Syke. No, he's pretty good, though. And I love how you describe, when we were
Starting point is 00:08:30 hanging out, we'll get to that, why we were hanging out, but when we were, you were talking about whiskey and a teacup. Oh, yes. And it's one of my favorite things to just like see like I envision like whiskey in a teacup and I see, well, I see
Starting point is 00:08:46 myself. But I know. But I I'll see you because I love the, like what, cheersing each other with our teacups. Yeah, like, you know, a little, it's classy, but you're also sassy and you got a little edge and your whiskey and a teacup. I love that. And is that something that you've always just, or did you come up with it or did you see it and be like, that's me? No, I definitely used it as part of the theme when I was planning our wedding. And, you know, I just, I've always loved playful juxtapositions, things that are just not normally put together. But when they come together, they're just like, that's adorable.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. So I loved that. And, you know, there's different, some ways you can do with it, like Cabernet and a coffee cup, you know. Oh, yeah, all the time. But obviously the whiskey tea cup was, it was something that kind of resonated with me. And it kind of helped me bring a lot of the themes together for the wedding. Yeah. I also kind of do think about that with designing collections, too.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah, 100%. I think that's why I like your design so much is because I, that's how I see myself. I'm like, I like to be pretty and cute and ladylike, but I also like to like put back whiskey. And like right now I'm drinking, well, we both are Savillon Blanc out of a nice little Dixie cup. I know. Oh, that's my thing. You're whiskey and a teacup.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I'm Savianneau Blanc in a Dixie cup. That's, yeah, that's me. So I totally copied what you did, but I just changed it a little bit. I love that too because you just have such a great sense of humor. And I think that that's your relationship. ability comes so much from that. Yeah. So it's, you know, I mean, good job, girl.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Thanks. I'm really trying to work on taking compliments. But, yeah, so that is, I feel like that is a big part of your style and what you do and why people love what you do is because it is, you can go so glam. But you'll find a way to design something for different people, too. Like, for me, I am obsessed with crop tops, always have been. And for people who don't know, I know. Well, you've designed gowns for so many people. Here's what I do.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I butcher names all the time. So I was reading all the list of people you've done gowns for, and I'm like, okay, maybe you say the names. So tell us, like, name off some people you've done dresses for. We've had the pleasure of dressing Chrissy Teigen, Olivia Wilde for an Avon fragrance campaign. We've recently worked with Dove Cameron, who is, like, the most adorable charismatic person. And, you know, there's a few more coming down the pipeline that are particularly exciting. Oh. But it's definitely a world that is kind of hard because you're, there's such an expectation to deliver. Oh, especially when they're. So much pressure. Yeah. And they're such a
Starting point is 00:11:31 personality and you really want. And they face so much criticism. Yes. So like when they're in something that they feel graded and then they get this negative commentating. You almost feel like, you know, you're accomplice in that because you didn't make them look the most beautiful. Oh, which you did, but it's just everybody has their own weird opinion and what somebody feels beautiful in might not be somebody else's cup of whiskey and a teacup. Exactly. Yeah, and again, forgive me, I've had wine before this podcast, okay? I might not make a lot of sense, but you know what I was getting at.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah, I get it, I get it. But yeah, you just, you can't be everything to everyone. But I do think as, like, accountability-wise for being a designer, you do have to balance your assortment and really think about how wonderful it is to have so many different shapes to command and think about and personalities. So I've never really felt like pigeon held into one aesthetic. No. Which is great because if you think about it, like people who have a career and job,
Starting point is 00:12:27 it's the same thing they're doing every day, right? And it's you get to explore so many different personalities and different women and different body types and different shapes and make everybody feel beautiful in what they're wearing, which I honestly never really got it. Like the whole, an outfit can make you feel. good. I've never had style. I doubt that. No, I swear to you. I swear to you, it's a new thing for me. Oh, well, you pull it off real well. I'm biased, but good job. No, really, I've never understood style. I remember living with my girlfriend, oh gosh, this can be a confession. I remember living
Starting point is 00:13:01 with my girlfriend, and she was very stylish in Vancouver. Her name's Shana. Love her. One of my best friends. And she always had the cutest outfits, and she always knew how to put them together. and she always knows how to wear her hair and accessories with her cute little outfits and always has the best shoes and I was like, I had three pairs of shoes all the time like and they were like flip flops, one pair of heels and one pair of sneakers
Starting point is 00:13:23 like in that I just rotate rib covers all the bases I guess yeah but here's the problem this flip flops were lime green I loved lime green and this is in my 20s by the way I would wear yeah this was not too long ago I would wear I remember coming out of my room
Starting point is 00:13:40 to go out with her one night and she everyone back in the day called me bean she was like bean you got to go back in the room and change like you can't you can't wear that and i was like man i was wearing oh man a lime green tank top with like bejeweled classy on the front yeah um i have big big hoop lime green earrings um white eye shadow and like um white yeah oh yeah and like powder white white white and like yeah and like powder white frosty lip gloss that I looked like I just ate like powdered donuts from clairs yeah oh 100% loved clairs that was my jam clairs was my jam then my skirt wait not just one skirt plural I had two skirts I would wear one that was like um like sweat pant material not like
Starting point is 00:14:27 spandex yeah like spaniard yeah white and then one over that to match yeah to match my eye shadow and then a jean skirt over top and then I would roll the spandex voice band over the jean skirt Oh, I see what you're going there. Okay. Oh, you're like understanding of this. I'm totally getting this look. You get it, but you're also like, I also don't know what you're doing. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:14:49 With lime green flip-flops. And I thought that was crushing it. Crushing it. I was like, I walked out like, let's go. And Shane, I was like, no. Get back in that room. I'm going to help you up. Which is funny because I'm like, but once you realize that, you know, clothes can make you feel beautiful and outfits and how you
Starting point is 00:15:10 feel and it can change your confidence. And actually, we can get into confessions right now because that is one of my confessions, is that truly, honestly, when I put on a Haley Page dress is when I started being like, oh, well, well, wow, I can feel like pretty good about myself in this kind of outfit. Like, if people don't know, goals, if people don't know, Haley designed the dress that I wore on the red carpet for the CMAs, the 50th anniversary, that black magical number crop top. show into the huge skirt that was just such a moment for me that I don't get you know how people it's like okay you're a little cocky I was so cocky in that dress I was like make way I was like I'm hosting on this carpet I have no business being here but I look good you need like the bow check a bow wow app just like is that an app I don't know but we should have made it don't tell anybody that let's get on it take it back but yeah I really you You do have a way of designing things for people that just can make them feel absolutely phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:16:17 But it's so heartwarming. Thank you so much. Well, it's true. It's such a pleasure, too, because, you know, there's always such a great, great new dress around the corner. But it's also so much from the personality and the bride for me. So obviously, it's just, like, so mutually inspiring because you're so great to work with, obviously. But am I, though? So good.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Like, really? So good. And I've had, I mean, I've had a fair share of clientele that was a little bit more difficult. Oh, I'm sure. A lot because their teams are so involved. So you're not just working with the client, working with the manager and the publicist and the stylist and there's like a lot of moving parts. But now, I mean. A lot of voices coming at you and your people, yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But you're nothing but net. But here's my problem. Sometimes I feel like I'm too easy where it's like, give me some direction, Caitlin. Like, just a little. like do you like I'm like yes sure great pink yellow green I don't care lime green please well you're like you're learning I think that dexterity comes over time too I am learning I'll give you that because again style has just never been my strong suit until until I got on the show even on the show if you look back on Bachelor of things I was wearing I was like trying really hard
Starting point is 00:17:36 and I was wearing like a like sweatsuit skirt like with flannel tied around my waist in a crop top and I was like killing it I am killing it with red lipstick cropping like it's hot Yeah I was cropping like it's hot through the whole bachelor season I really was
Starting point is 00:17:53 Maybe that's when crop tops really hit it big You never know set the pace I never went back I'm still on the crop tops I just know how to style them a little better now Not with sweatsuit skirts Practice makes perfect I guess you're right.
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Starting point is 00:18:49 So you can get 50% off your first box if you go to brightsellers.com slash off the vine. Guys, that's four bottles of wine delivered to your door for 50% off at brightsellers.com slash off the vine. I feel like we should get into confessions just because I've been confessing. My terrible wardrobe. Yeah. What is your confession? Do you have one for me? My confession.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Every podcast I get people to confess to me, something, it doesn't have to be, like, deep, dark. I mean, it can be. I'll really appreciate it for this. But just something that you want to confess, get off your chest, and then we can wash away our sins with wine. I love that idea. I guess, well, since yours was kind of stylistic as well, I'll say that my confession is that I actually don't consider myself that stylish either.
Starting point is 00:19:48 What? It's really weird, but I get right out of town. Like, it's so funny. Like, I actually consider myself either in pajamas or workout clothes or in a ball gown. Like, there's no in between. Oh, I like that. I am so down with that, though. But look at you right now.
Starting point is 00:20:04 you're in like this but I tried like I did I don't consider what is that is that you I've worn this outfit before oh I'm obsessed with it I was like I'm gonna use that again oh I love it I absolutely love that it's like a red lacy hot I love the sleeves is it a dress or sure sleeve um it's it's a sheer but then there's like a tight shirt underneath oh I'm just loving it's supposed to look sheer that's so fancy but you can turn it on when you want it's just that you enjoy being comfortable or in a gown I really do it's like extreme yeah but I do feel I'm better at dressing other people and, like, thinking about what would look at on that. Almost like the artistic point of view.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah. So that's, I mean, that's like a stylistic confession. You're a true artist. Oh. I think, you know, look at artists out there, you know, they care about the other picture, not, which I respect. I respect. I respect it. Wait, that's a, you got to give me more of that, more of a confession than that.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Let me, let me think about it for a minute. You hang out with Andy Dorfman on a weekly basis. I know you have confessions. I know you've got good confessions if you hang out with Andy. Oh, I mean, I could talk to the like eight years I spent in New York pretty much single. Oh, yeah, because you're a married woman now. Married woman. Married woman.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But, yeah, you can confess something that was like five years ago. I definitely had my run of like the single scene in New York. Yeah. Oh, I love hearing these. Why is the single scene in New York such a like time to be alive? I feel like it's a badge of honor for women. It really is. It's like it's when you get to know yourself and it's when you go through struggles, you got to hustle.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I had like a bout of crazy anxiety when I first moved to the city. And it's funny because I went to school at Cornell upstate New York. And, you know, I'm from California. So I was like, oh, this transition will be easy. And it was not. And I literally had like panic attacks and like thinking about the future in life. And it was like a dark moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 But I definitely got through it by having fun in New York. Well, yeah. I feel like that's, I mean, I did it in Vancouver too, where you move to a new city, you're overwhelmed, you don't really know. All you have the desire to do is go out and meet people. And how do you do that? Bars. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Wine. Festivals with wine. Anything that has to do with wine. Exactly. And just interacting. And then you get stories out of it because you live, you learn. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So I definitely, I think that's probably one of my bigger confessions. is that even though I was working hard on the craft, moving the ball forward. You worked hard, you played hard. I played hard, too, yeah. Okay, give us a story. Oh, gosh. I'm putting you on the spot. I love it, though.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I got to think as, oh, I've got, oh, my gosh, I have a good one in Vegas. Okay. Go. So actually, one of my dear friends of mine who was on my gymnastics team growing up, and my friend Shea, who lives in New York, we went on a Vegas trip once a year in my like singledom of New York. Yeah. So we would go out on weekends.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And usually like Memorial Day or Labor Day, which is like the worst time to go to Vegas because it's so overrun. Yeah. And we went there and we found ourselves one night at a bachelor party. Okay. That was like an affiliate of Jerry Jones. Okay. And it was like one of those moments where I was like, what are we doing here? Yeah, what is life?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Because, yeah, what is life? Is this real life? Because they had rented out like the top floor or whatever of like the encore. oh boy and we were the only girls what aside from like you know strippers right aside from the nice naked ladies and it just i think exactly and it just kind of showed like the naivety yeah that was me at that age preach oh i was so naive yeah and to look back on it you know it's it's just funny because you know both my friend and i were just so uncomfortable and awkward yeah fantastically awkward and we felt cool
Starting point is 00:24:01 in a way that we're like, oh, we're crashing a bachelor party. Yeah. But, you know, we got into the club free that night and like it ended up being really fun. Oh, you are so innocent. I know. I think, well, maybe. Maybe not. Well, it's cute because no, that is, that's a great story though. It's a
Starting point is 00:24:19 good story. I'm trying to, like, I remember the same thing in Vancouver, like a lot of, in that time and for me, they were celebrities. now I'm like they're just people guys but like I have so many stories of people coming into the place I would work I would never like I'm talking like Tom Cruise would come in
Starting point is 00:24:38 and people would come in and I'm not going to name any more names but I would think it was so cool but I would never treat them differently I would never but I would party with them and feel cool I'd be like yeah and party in this blah blah but I would never in my life be like can't get a picture or like hey
Starting point is 00:24:56 I'd be like what sorry what's your your name like I'd always play it so cool right is this story even it's relevant is it okay it's good yeah I'm like where am I going with I'm trying to still rack my brain on something even juicier I know but I mean don't but Vegas definitely had Vegas is juicy in itself it is you went to Vegas you went to a bachelor party you were the only girls there were strippers you're on the top of a you lived yeah you lived your life yeah you're forgiven okay yeah I didn't do anything too bad I don't think no Of course you didn't
Starting point is 00:25:29 You don't need to go any further than that That's great Thank you for convincing But again I feel like you have worse From just hanging out with Andy I mean but I feel like What happens
Starting point is 00:25:39 That Andy stays with Andy 100% She is such a mystery She's like Vegas She is Vegas Yeah What happens with Andy Stay with it
Starting point is 00:25:48 You're right Oh actually I have a really good story About Andy's I'm so ready for She would love me sharing this Okay So I met Andy at a charity event And I feel like when you just like
Starting point is 00:25:58 friendship is weird because we can meet somebody and you're like, yeah, I like this person. You're my friend. Yeah. And that's kind of what happened with her. And we may be hung out like twice. Yeah. And a few months later, I was in Cabo with my husband. Yeah. And we had some single guys that were joining the weekend with us. Yeah. And Danny was like, gosh, I wish we had some of your like single fun friends with us. And he's like, who of all your friends? You know, if you could bring anyone here, who would you want to bring? And I was like, oh, I know a fun single girl. I think I have an idea. A.D. Exactly. And so I literally texted her on a spot, on the spot, after two margaritas, exactly 2.0 margaritas. Yeah. And I was like, girl, hop on a plane tomorrow. Like, what's your... And she would. What's your information and booking your flight? Yeah. She literally sent it back right away. We booked her ticket. She had it. Saved her. She's like, there you go. Here you go. I have her birthday number. I'm like all of her. Yeah. Yeah. Booked it. She came the next day. We picked her up in a Hummer limo with two escorts. Oh, my. Like, not real escorts, but like, fun girl escorts. Yeah. And she showed, she like rolled up and we had like the time of our lives. Oh, that's amazing. So that was amazing because we really didn't even know each other that well.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And that was like the beginning of our friend-aissance. Yeah. Oh, my. That's a great way to start. So when's my invitation? Well, now that I'm like, now that we've hung out at least twice. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, we're there now, right?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Expect a Parisian. Can't wait. Avant, yes. Oh, that's great. That's so fun. It's a good one. That is a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I liked just like the rogueness of it. and then it just became something. That's good. I like that. Into a beautiful raging friendship. Beautiful raging friendship. Whiskey and a teacup. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Oh. I love it. Champagne and a Hummer and Lameau. That's Andy. I'm Sommian Blanc in a Dixie cup and your whiskey and a teacup. Ooh, that's good. Oh, that's good. Coy it, coin it.
Starting point is 00:27:48 So I want to know for, well, I already kind of know because I know you. But just for people listening, like, I want to hear about your journey as a designer. You've kind of. touched on it, but give us, like, some peaks in your career of, actually, peaks and valleys. Piques and valleys. Piques and valleys of, like, where you've gotten in your career, how you got there, your most favorite parts, and your low points. Okay. I would say one of the biggest peaks was probably in college. Yeah. Because I was definitely lacking a lot of confidence in my ability to be a great designer. Because how do you,
Starting point is 00:28:24 So crazy, though, like, from the outside perspective, I'm like, how could you ever be insecure or, like, doubting of your art? Like, you are a very talented woman, go on. Thank you. It's just something I think it shows a side of vulnerability and you're always afraid of people's reactions. So I was very in my own little. It's your skill.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And, you know, people can go out there and do a job that, you know, you're put out to do and you went to college for and here I learned how to do this and here it is. When it's your own skill and something that you are passionate about and you feel, like you're good at sharing that with somebody and the world is so intimidating and you're so vulnerable because you're like, this is my thing and this is what I love. And please don't. I hope you like it. Yeah. And I hope you like it. So true. Yeah. But in college, I had a great professor and it was a very small program. And she really just kind of made me change my perspective on what it means to be a designer and how you can really make a profession out of it and find
Starting point is 00:29:22 your little niche. And I always loved a bridle because of the romantic factor. And I'm lucky because my parents have a very beautiful marriage like 40 years. Oh, I love that. And even my husband, too, his parents the same way. Really? So it's, I was very blessed
Starting point is 00:29:38 to have that. And, you know, I always just saw it as something, two people just love and make it work and commit and you make a lot of sacrifices and then you have this beautiful dress you wear. Yeah. It's to like represent it all. Yeah. So. It does. There's a reason women keep their wedding dresses and that the wedding dresses is such a, you know, it's more than just a dress too. Yeah. It is. So much more. Yeah. So in college, that was great because I really cut out the whole idea of, okay, I'm going to pursue medicine. I'm just going to go forward with the pretty dresses. Screw these carbon equations. Yeah. Yeah. And then I ended up getting a really great job from my program in the city right after college. So I was lucky to get a design job right out of college. And it was actually working for a high fashion brand. It wasn't in bridal.
Starting point is 00:30:21 but I was only there for about six months Was that L? You did? I worked at L actually as an internship Which was great for styling Because I learned a lot on that side of publication And learning that side of the business And then I had some internships styling actually Which one was for Kesha on SNL
Starting point is 00:30:40 I'll never forget it. That was amazing That's cool And my sister's a producer and she would hire me on set To do a lot of like AD stuff or styling And we had this one this one incident happened on set in New York. And there was a stabbing. And it was, yeah, it was actually on a Kanye West music video.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And it was like an extra, like, went crazy. No. I don't even, I'm sure Kanye West doesn't even know the story because, like, you keep, like, the talent, like, completely far away from any, like, blind, yeah. Yeah. But I was working wardrobe, and my sister and I, like, had to wrap a tourniquet using a, like, beautiful Balenciaga scarf, like, to save this. around a stab wound? It was crazy. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:31:24 It was nuts. He got stabbed in, like, an artery, and it, like, was profusively bleeding. But, of course, I'm not even, like, the slightest afraid of blood. But it was just like... Let's save this guy's life. Yeah, you wanted to be, like, a surgeon, so... Yeah, I mean. You're like, I got this one.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah. Like, let me wrap... The two and one. Yeah, you're like, let's wrap the scarf around this artery and make it pretty. But that was probably, like, a valley. Because I was working these, like, odd jobs to kind of... introduced myself more to the fashion realm. And I worked actually for Nina Garcia when she was at Elle magazine. And that was ironically right when the Devil Wears Prada came out. And she was a
Starting point is 00:32:01 totally different vibe than that. But it was just so weird how things happened in your life at the same time. And you know, you got this perspective and stuff. But it was a really cool experience. And then another real big valley actually was my first job out of college because it was like a fashion boot camp. And I just wasn't mentally prepared. And that was when I was kind of struggling with the anxiety thing, and I was just, like, doubting everything. Of course. Even though I wanted to be a designer, I found out I wanted to be a designer. I just was, like, really in a tough spot in terms of, like, my mentality on things.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So it's good. I mean, you've got to have dark moments, I think. You just can't unpack and live there. I, all I want to do in the world is, like, go to every girl in their 20s and comfort them and tell them that it's going to be okay. I want to hug all the 20-year-olds out there. The sobbing moments. A sobbing moments. Watching the mascara run down, looking at yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And be like, guess what? It's still going to happen in 10 years. It'll happen, it'll happen. Yeah. And especially with guys, too, because I, like, coveted that. Like, I got to find my prince. Of course. You know, and New York did not make it easy.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I had to go to California for mine. Like, yeah. Like, I traveled for that shit. I had to. Exactly. I picked him up and took him over here. I laughed at him. But, yeah, it was, that was one of the low points.
Starting point is 00:33:14 But then I also learned a lot. Yeah. And then I got. That's when you do learn a lot. That's exactly. Exactly. I think so too. Like when you're really challenged or like dealing with something like that, it's good to be to like kind of forward sync and get through it because you've become stronger after it. Oh, yeah. And then you're like, oh gosh, remember that time. Oh, my God. On the floor. It's totally fetal position. Yeah. I mean like that. You laugh at it. You laugh at it.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And it could be even it could even be like, who isn't? It could even be like weeks later you can laugh at it. But it's true. Like sometimes in the moments where I'm like having some sort of argument was showing. on if it gets bad and I'm crying, I will sit down and talk to myself and kind of laugh and be like, I guarantee in two days, you won't even remember this. I can't remember it. I try and do that all the time with anything bad in life. Is this going to affect you in five hours? So true. If it's not, let it go.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah. Is this going to affect you in five days? Okay, maybe like think about it for a second and then let it go. Five months, little different. So true. Five years. Sure, be upset about that. I'm upset so.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah. Be upset. Legit. But let's call that the five rule. I agree. And, you know, sometimes I feel like women just need to cry. I love crying. It feels so good sometimes.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I love crying. I love being broken and crying and wondering like, what is going? And then figuring it out and moving forward. Shoot up like a flower. And then I swear it's like a high coming out of it. If I have a good cry and then I go like do anything, I feel like it. Yes. That's true.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yep. People are afraid to cry. I'm not. I am not. Sean B. Don't be afraid to cry. Yeah, Sean. I just throw on Marley and me and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:34:58 You won't. No, you won't. You won't. But yeah, like, you go through, especially, I mean, as a designer and somebody who has gotten to a real peak in her career, you've hit some valleys. For sure. And those are not as highlighted. And those are stories that get you to where you are. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And I definitely even think, because now we have the show coming out and everything, and I really want to be like a realistic representation of what it means to become a designer and it doesn't happen overnight. And a lot of people don't talk about the process and the learning aspect of it because it wasn't something that was happening overnight. No. I do think people have great taste. Some people have better taste than others maybe. And they see something that's, you know, more creative or whatever. But I do think you have to nurture your craft and practice it. Like, an athlete would.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And always continue to do that. Continue. Student of design, always, for sure. That's, I mean, you can probably think of your first design until now. Oh, my gosh. I've grown so much. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I think my first thing ever made was a pair of fleece pajama pants for every member of my family. Okay, that's actually really adorable. Pink, like, elephants on them. Can I have a pair? Oh, my God, done. Oh my gosh. I was going to actually ask you what you remember making for the first time. That was probably it. Yeah. I made a pair of boxers in my home at class. Oh, see? You created? That's like...
Starting point is 00:36:26 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Please tell me they had like Sylvester the pussycat on them or something. Oh, yeah, 100%. It was something like that. I can't even remember what it was. I feel like it was clouds. Oh, cute. No. With little rainbows. I don't even remember. It was like so long. But I remember making boxers and being like, yeah, design is not for me. well if you ever want a lesson in boxers or pajama pants that would be actually a really cute gift idea to like make something for Sean yeah for okay I'll come to the studio come to the studio I love your studio
Starting point is 00:36:56 thank you oh I love it and I feel like you're right in the middle of New York and you're in this design studio and you've got all these interns and mannequins in your office and it's all it's so you with your unicorns and your everything and you just look at you must just look out the window and be like here I am world. It's funny because I really like to keep things light. Like, I have to. It's just part of my... But that is so you. That is. That is. Yeah. That is. Yeah. And the sense of humor, too. I think that's why I cling to people that have that. You have to lightness. Because you have to surround yourself with that. Because that's what makes you happy. And that really is what goes into the designs for me. I don't think it's so much of the dark stuff that you learn from. But then it's the good stuff you put into design, I think, for me. Yeah. Well, that's, I mean, anyone who has a passion and what they do it's just you have to you can't make it work
Starting point is 00:37:50 every day and blah blah and just like be strict with yourself you have to make it fun you have to make it enjoyable for yourself and the people around you and put in that love that you have for your craft unless it because it becomes work yeah and then you get fabulous people like you come in
Starting point is 00:38:06 and then just like really it's like the sprinkles on top of the Sunday I'm the sprinkles on the Sunday Yes. Hashtag. Hashtag sprinkles on the Sunday and the whiskey and the teacup and all the things. Oh, thanks. So anyone out there, big Kate Hudson guy like myself?
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Starting point is 00:39:52 and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. Also thanks for all your support and happy new year from the Lady Gang. Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. So, okay, brought up the show a couple seconds ago, which we obviously have to get into.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So, please tell us, this is so exciting. You have a show coming out. Is it the pilot that's going to air January 13th? Yes. Yes. Tell us all about this. Okay. What it's about?
Starting point is 00:40:25 What's it called? What network it's on? How we can watch it. And who's your first guest? So, okay, I should probably start with my first guest because she is, like, enamoringly beautiful and witty and amazing. and you might have heard of her. And it's Caitlin Bressel?
Starting point is 00:40:41 I was like, wait, is it another guest that I didn't know about that you had on? Yes, I'm on the first episode. It's so exciting. Did you guys come up with the name? Because I know we were talking about how you didn't know what you were going to call it. Yes. So there's two parts to the show. One is a digital, which will be the Facebook Watch app or streaming service.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Yes. And that will be called Haley Ever After. Oh, I love it With a little like sprinkles Of course, got out of the sprinkles It wouldn't be you without them And then I believe the linear Is also Haley Ever After
Starting point is 00:41:18 But with the dress after Okay So it's funny because we're still just like Figuring out the logos And the last minute promos So but it will be premiered on January 13th And then the digital We have to stay tuned for
Starting point is 00:41:34 Check into my Instagram Okay, awesome And it will be on TLC. On TLC. Following say yes to the dress. Oh, my. That makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 People love their, women love their wedding shows. Like, wedding dresses and having people find those dresses and in the process and everything that goes into it. Like, I don't even love the whole wedding concept thing. And I'm like, but I love watching people find their dress. I love watching anything to do with weddings. It's just me personally. I'm just a weirdo. No, I think that's a, that's a testament to what a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:42:06 people I feel are attracted to right now, and it's nice to kind of have something happy to look forward to and watch and not feel like I need to watch something that's dramatic and outlandish because, you know, that's what's being fed right now and a lot of stuff is negative. So it's nice just to have a different little twist on something. And we're in a time where like women are starting to realize that we like to be happy for other women and that we should be happy for other women. So I feel like that's a nice space to be in for you as well. to make other women happy and feel beautiful and we can all watch them and enjoy that
Starting point is 00:42:42 and be happy for them. I so agree. And I just feel the empowerment thing and the movement and it's all very positive and there's always going to be somebody saying something negative. Oh, of course. You know, the band, it's like the band of brothers,
Starting point is 00:42:55 but it's like the band of bombshells. Like let's all just kind of link arms and be positive and really lift each other up. Wait, the band of bombshells. Yeah. Yeah. That's the next thing. podcast.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah, the next podcast. Now you should come up with a podcast called that. But that's so cool because I really do love having women on here who, you know, are bosses and they have things going for themselves and they're confident and believe in what they do and want to empower other women. Because I think that's where empowerment also comes from is being confident in yourself and being happy with who you are and what you do. And obviously, we all have our insecurities. But for sure. If you can, if you can respect other women and what they do and what makes them happy and build them up, then I think. the world would be a better place. I so agree. Amen. Amen. Yeah, and it's also the
Starting point is 00:43:42 relatability, too, is, I mean, with social media and a lot of stuff that's happened with, like, fake news and all the stuff. It's just, it's nice to have something that you feel like you can really relate to that feels authentic or feels like it's coming from a really genuine nice place. Yeah. So that's hopefully what that precedent will set for the first premiere episode. It is. Your show will definitely do that. It's a feel good. Yeah. Happy, you know, it's people finding they're happy ever after and finding that moment of their dress to be in for that moment. And you're so good with everybody and finding that in them. Thank you. And the interns are great too. The interns are so great. Yeah. They're just spunky and eager to learn.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah, it was really fun to talk to them and hear. I mean, like I said, I thought I was difficult to work with. You're like, oh, you're just, you know, but I'm like, I am difficult because I'm. I don't know. It's like saying a bunny rabbit is like angry and savage. They can be. They can be. I've seen it. But it's like I really felt like I was like, man, I feel bad. My energy level is always like, when I'm on, I'm on, when I'm off, oh, don't even talk to me.
Starting point is 00:44:55 But I've never seen you off. So I was like, she is like in fuego. I, well, I try, but I mean, when I'm at like home by myself, I'm off. That's not true. I'm on Snapchat. So I'm on. But, you know, I have my moments. But when I was doing the wedding dresses with you and trying stuff on,
Starting point is 00:45:12 and I felt so out of my comfort zone, which is good because I like doing that. But it was just so I was very impressed how you made me feel like comfortable and beautiful. And like, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm actually excited. And I got emotional during the episode because I was like, well, I did not think I would enjoy it this much. I think I started off even in the episode. I was like a little shy, which is what? I'm not shy Yeah, you're not shy
Starting point is 00:45:38 at all But I felt like Just because I didn't know I don't know what I want In a wedding dress I don't know what I want in a wedding And I just feel like that was so That throws a person off
Starting point is 00:45:49 Who does Actually didn't throw you off Did you get sucked off your feet? I did at the end I was just like Oh my gosh, your interns They really dug deep Into who I was as a person
Starting point is 00:45:59 And what I've been through And who I am To come up with ideas for a dress And I'm like Oh this is like this means something this is not just a dress this is like this means something I love that so it was really really cool to be a part of that and I'm so excited for people to watch your show I know I was it was so thrilled too because I mean I've obviously seen a little bit of the edits but it's like your addition is it is sensational it really really I'm so excited I can't wait to like share it with the world okay good because I think people will see that I was a little like I don't know and then by the end I was like I know but I know I know but I know But I know. You're just, you really are the, I think, the type of bride that is never going to know what they want and never.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Like, that's it. And I think that I'll be, I'll be that way for everything in my wedding. Yeah. When it comes to what color flowers, I don't freaking care. Cake, sure, chocolate. I don't know. Like, I just, until I have it in front of me, and then I'll be like, oh, I don't like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Oh, I do like that. Oh. And that's why I need, like, when I envision my wedding, I see not a lot of people. Okay. I see a beach. Okay. And I see like whatever other people tell me I should do for the wedding because all I want to do is be standing there and hear what Sean has to say to me. So wait, so you're going to write your own vows.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Oh, hell yeah. That's my biggest regret. Not writing your own vows. Really? That's your biggest regret. And I know you're not supposed to have them, but I literally have this regret. Like I think we should have, we should have recited vows. So that's literally the one thing I tell when girls are like, what should I do for my wedding?
Starting point is 00:47:39 Like, what's one thing that you would, I would write your vows? Because every wedding that I've been to, and it's been a lot. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure. When they exchange their vows to each other and say them, there's nothing more like raw, raw, like vulnerable, raw. And so, like, on point. Yeah. And you don't get a chance to say those words to each other enough, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Like, even when Sean and I got engaged, it was such a magical moment, even though there's cameras everywhere. but like we really said finally what we wanted to say to each other that we've been holding in and just like it was the most real moment between the two of us even though it was in front of millions of people on national television like that still doesn't make it any less special no it wasn't it really was so special so important and we didn't have a paper in front of us we didn't we just looked at each other and said every word that we meant and it was like I didn't skip a beat I didn't miss a word I said everything I wanted to and now we can watch it on YouTube all the time the dream it was really great but yeah you're right like it's just it's huge you're allowed to have regrets but I'm sure your wedding day was freaking magical so great I do I did love it a lot oh I'm sure you did but and you can also renew your vows and do that so that's what people are saying so I could do that yeah absolutely yeah I want to know all about your what okay this can be another one of your conventions even though you're like no I'm a wedding gown designer I am fine do you hate the word gown by the way no I actually love gown I use gown more than I use dress okay okay
Starting point is 00:49:06 Even for hashtags, but I'm, like, you know, specifying a dress, it's a count. When you're not in the world of somebody else, you never know what words irritate them. And I'm like, oh, man, if I'm saying, like, gown, you're like, it's a dress. It's not a gown. It's not a gown. I didn't know. I mean, there is, I think, like, a definition difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:23 But whatever, I make my own rule. So I'm like, it's a gown. What I'm getting at is that you wore five gowns. I wore a million. Haley wore five different wedding dresses, right? Five? Yes. Five different wedding dresses.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I did. Three on the day of. Right. Which is totally reasonable, by the way. So practical. So very practical. Well, I mean, with your job title, yes, that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:47 It just made sense for me. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if I did five, people would be like, who are you? Well, we could if you want. Just going to put that out there. I know. After I tried on all the dresses, I was like, okay, I can't totally do five. It's a whole weekend now.
Starting point is 00:50:01 It's not just a day. What was your, tell me, I just feel like you'd have such a magical. wedding. I want to know, was your husband involved in the process? Because I don't feel like I ever hear about any of the husband. Like, I'm like, is this just a thing? And here's where I'm coming from is that I don't have any plans of planning a wedding. So I'm like, is this my fault? Because I feel like it's all up to the girl. And I'm like, that'd be really cool. Sean was like, hey, you know what? Let's sit down. Let's start planning. Here's your Pinterest board that I made for you. But I mean, that's just not realistic, but I would be like, that is the most
Starting point is 00:50:35 romantic thing in the world if Hugh started planning. Hint. Hint. Hint. I'm like, do you even listen to my podcast? Yes, he does every week. He does. Very committed off the vine listener. Cutes, magoots. Why I'm saying this, Sean planning a wedding. Help, help. But I'm just saying like, do guys ever do that?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Have you heard of that? I have, yes. And I've seen a lot. I mean, with chunk shows and oh, thanks with the top of. You're so welcome. That's what I'm here for. But, you know, I see a lot of different ways people are going about it now. and I do want to say to you just like make it your own. Yes. Even if Sean plans it or whatever happens, try not to feel as pressured by the whole planning process.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Because one of the perfect examples of this is my sister. She had a surprise wedding, which I thought was so cool. I remember her telling me this. I love that. It was amazing because she planned it in two days. She made quick decisions. She didn't tell anyone, but obviously me because I had to make the dress and the parents. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:28 But it was, it just was like. Totally do that. Wham, bam, bam. And it was kind of like an elopement in a way. But, you know, she still had the panache and the excitement. And if you do destination even, it's kind of fun because you could be like, hey, guys, we're getting married. Or maybe you don't even to tell them. But it's like, hey, guys, we're going to marry this weekend.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Book a flight to Hawaii and, like, see who comes. You know, it's like. See, I love that. Or whatever. Like, do it like how I invited. Because the most. Yes, because the most important people who cared would be there. They'd be like, done.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Tooth and nail, they would find the way to get there. And it also helps just, like, simplify a lot of it. I mean, I was even at a wedding in New Orleans a couple weeks ago, and there was no seating chart even. And I was like, oh, my God, how could there not be a seating chart? But you know what? It worked out. Everybody sat. Everyone ate.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It was great. See, I'm like, I don't want to come up with the seating chart. Yeah, who cares? Just sit down and be happy and be married. Like, that's it. It doesn't have to be like a little schoolgirl, like popular table. It doesn't. Sit down.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Eat your damn food, but let's get on the D floor. Yeah. And, I mean, like, I get girls. that are so organized and it's amazing and it's great. 100%. That's what they want. Power to it. Like,
Starting point is 00:52:33 and they love it. And that's love that. Yeah. But it's just, it's nice to kind of make it your own. And I think in your case, it's, you kind of set yourself up for such a like,
Starting point is 00:52:44 like whirlwind, like, oh, let's just do it now. And I feel like that's so us. Like Whitney, who just got married to Ricky, she's from the Bachelor World. And she has dreamt about that moment since she was little. And she knew exactly what she wanted.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And that makes her happy, you know, and she wanted to have some, have stuff with her dress and have so, and that all meant something to her, which is totally, I love that because her wedding was, oh my gosh, it was stunning. So amazing. Stunning. It was so perfect and beautiful. And I was like, yeah, and I was like, okay, that is worth all of her work and effort because holy crap, that was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And to be a guest at that wedding too. And to be just like, wow. And then I wanted to, because I knew how much effort she put into it, I was like, I want to notice every detail. So I'm looking at everything and appreciating everything down to like any, even the chair was on the chair. Like, yeah, everything. And for me, I'm like, oh, man, I just hope people know, oh, this is so Caitlin, you know. This is so Caitlin. So off the phone.
Starting point is 00:53:41 We're just sitting, yeah, this is so off the vine. We're just sitting drinking, like, Bright Cellar's wine at any old table. And the only thing I'm like, but I will be in a Haley page gown. Oh, my. I might have one for you at this point. we may or may not have found something that I love but you'll have to tune in to the show to find out no that would be that would be like being on the bachelor no not but I want that but yeah it was so much fun doing that with you and and finding that and just thank you for
Starting point is 00:54:13 making me feel like I got excited I was like now I want Sean to go try on something because I'm like get excited that was exciting I was like I want to get married now yeah oh I'm so glad But it's really just something to be enthusiastic about, no matter how much attention or lack thereof you want to put into the process, the enthusiasm, you know, is always nice to feel. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny because, I mean, I bet a lot of girls out there that are listening, that is something that they dream of and think of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Or I don't know if I'm like just a weird, different. Just a weirdo. I'm just a big weirdo. You're not a big weirdo. I'm okay with that. I like being weirdo. Just a fabulous one, though. So, 2018, we all know we have resolutions, goals.
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Starting point is 00:55:49 This is, I am so not prepared. I'm like, oh, we have to get to can you not segment. And I'm like, I haven't even thought of a can. Obviously, we have to do like brides. Oh, yes. Like bridezillas. Can you not? So we have to say like, bridezillas like, can you not?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, but what? Because I don't know. Oh, you know, it's not even so much for the bride as it is for her entourage. Oh. So the can you not would be. can you not comment like that? What do you mean? So during like trunk shows,
Starting point is 00:56:24 I feel that a lot of times the peanut gallery needs to give their comments. And I know that there are a lot of brides that genuinely look for the reaction, especially from their mom, because they want to see the emotion and her really connect to it.
Starting point is 00:56:38 That's one of the consistent things I find. Really? But a lot of times they'll bring, you know, they're made of honors or their sisters or whatever. And there's just a lot of comments. happening that can persuade her or make her doubt herself that's a good point like so okay so I was thinking more of like brides being like oh I can't even think of one because I don't even
Starting point is 00:57:00 know how a bridesilla would act oh just maybe somebody that's over the top like don't wear that now polished don't wear like yeah oh yeah like these eyelashes or like whatever right like everybody needs to be the same go here do this yeah but I like your idea better the peanut gallery can you Not. So all the brides out there are people have been married or are getting married, you can relate to this. Yes. I'm going to. Okay, tell me more because I'm like out of the loop here.
Starting point is 00:57:29 So I feel it's more so when, if you're asked to go to somebody's appointment, you know, whether you're in the wedding or not, your sister, whatever, I think your job is really to just be a good sense of energy for them. Yes. It's not your wedding And also like stand up for them too So like if perchance by any chance They're having a bad experience or something You know you want to stand up for them And make them feel comfortable
Starting point is 00:57:56 But more so than not You should wait to see her first kind of reaction Be very mindful of what she's kind of thinking Yeah Before commenting Yeah Because it's so really her decision More than anyone else is
Starting point is 00:58:11 That's what that's a thing So I feel like you should give her a chance to That's such a like family thing though you know family always feels like they can cross the boundaries and go there but especially if they're paying for it like if the mom's paying for it it's always so tough because then you're just you know as a designer i get so i feel so awkward i have to like slow turtle walk out of like the appointment oh 100% tip to her like did did do do de dee do i just go over here but you know you just you want to just feel like across the board that she's having a good experience even if the
Starting point is 00:58:42 dress is not if she doesn't find the dress yeah you want her experience to still be lovely and keep the process positive. Oh, my gosh. So I try to be a very patient person to deal with that. I love it, though. Well, you have to. You would have to be as successful as you are. And you obviously love what you do.
Starting point is 00:59:02 But yeah, you'd have to because if that was me, I'd be like, I'm in the wrong biz. And also, I feel like you can't be about the sale ever. And what's nice for me is I'm not a salesperson. So, like, I go to trunk shows and I'm literally doing. giving stuff away that I shouldn't be like I get in trouble with my production like all this stuff but it's for me it's like it has to be about the moment and the enjoyment of it. Yeah. And I'd rather her just find a dress that she loves and love the experience more than find a dress that's the Haley page. You know, so that's so true too. Like I'm lucky to say that because I feel like
Starting point is 00:59:34 our business is great. Right. You know, and I have the confidence. Yeah, you're fine. We're good. But like I want her to genuinely be so dazzled by the dress. Yeah. So that's like the goal is If you're not feeling it, if you're going to change it, go on to another dress. Okay, tell me your favorite moment with a bride and your, you don't have to name names, obviously. Your favorite moment with dressing a bride and your nightmare moment with a bride? I would say my nightmare moment. Oh, okay, so this is weird, but my nightmare moment with a bride was my sister. And not because it's my sister and she was bad.
Starting point is 01:00:13 It was because I was a nightmare during the appointment. I was so young. I was so new to my whole collection. And it was like maybe the first or second season I ever had. And it was so stressed out. And like, obviously you show a lot more in front of your family members. But when she was like, I have to get married in two weeks. And I need a dress in three days because I have to get it fitted and like, I have to take it to L.A.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I just was like not giving her a good experience. Yeah. And that was quick. It was like a nightmare situation because I look back on it. And I'm like, damn it. Like I wish I could have given her such a great experience. experience and such this great moment. Well, I'm sure you did.
Starting point is 01:00:47 That was probably the one, like, appointment that I was like, no, this is probably the worst one. And I feel so bad. I'm going to make it up to her someday. I'll make her another dress that she can, like, frolic down the Malibu Beach or something for pictures with her husband. But, and then I would say probably the dream moment would be dressing my friend Vanessa for her wedding because she's, like, one of my dear friends of all time.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Or probably you. What? Really? But I feel like I have to, like, not say that because, you know. Or do you have to say that? Or it's my podcast. That actually was, like, such a unique experience, too, because it was like, you know, it's our first show and it's so exciting.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And you're, like, the dream to work with. I should have been more excited. I was nervous. Are you kidding? It was dusty in there. You were crying. I was. You can't ask for more.
Starting point is 01:01:36 That's true. Actually, it was a good progression because I started off so unsure and ended in tears. Yeah, it was perfect. But honestly, that was very. one of the huge highlight for me but obviously for my friend Vanessa I just knew her since she was my neighbor growing up in school or not school but um in life and she was a ballerina and I was a gymnast and we just grew up together and then when she got married it was just like I knew she so genuinely wanted a dress from me so what was great is I actually designed a dress
Starting point is 01:02:06 for her from scratch that I put on the collection oh cool and named the Nessie gown because her name's Vanessa. Oh, that's amazing. So I love that experience and she's just great. So that's probably one of my dream moments. Awesome. Yeah. I love that. I feel like the Ken you nots, I'm like, I can't think of. Well, I'm so, I'm usually so prepared, Haley. I feel like I would be good at this too, but I'm trying to think of like, wait, I know what we can do. What? We can go to, drink more wine. Well, yeah, duh. That'll help us come up with my teeth. This is what we're going to do. I'm going to put a tweet out there. Can you not Bridezilla? Bridezillas.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Any bridezilla? Any, um... Okay, is your Twitter Miss Haley page? So, confession. I don't even, like, know if I have a Twitter. Oh, I think you do. I've been tagging you in it. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I need to, like, follow up on that. It should be Miss Haley page. It is, but I'm like, it was weird because you're... I feel like I need to make a Twitter come back now. You should, actually. Okay, done. That's my homework. Get on it.
Starting point is 01:03:11 But yes, it should be Miss Haley page. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to get to questions from people, and then I put the tweet out there for can you nots, and we can read other people's can you nots. Perfect. Great. I like that idea. So people, the people want to know. What do the people want to know?
Starting point is 01:03:28 Where is my questions? Okay, here. Nope, nope, nope, no, no, no, no. Okay. Oh, that's really cute. It comes, look it. Oh, that's the lightsaber emoji. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:39 That's, do you have your own emojis? Yeah. Okay, that was another thing I should have put on the list of things to talk. Is that what it's called? Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's genius. I know. Holy match emoji?
Starting point is 01:03:52 The name alone was like the main most exciting. Oh, that's good. How did you not start with that? I would have been like, Caitlin, can we talk about this? Yeah. Okay. So is it an app? It's an app on the app store.
Starting point is 01:04:03 We don't have it on Android yet. Okay. It's free. I'm getting it. But, you know, I just felt like we needed a dialogue for emojis for brides. You have great ones, and you have the whiskey and a teacup because I saw that one. Yes, and I have the, like, the prescription bottle of diamonds where it's like eat diamonds for breakfast and shine all day. Oh, we are so opposite.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I'm like, I really don't give shit about that. No, but like as like an idea of eating them and then you shine. Oh. You glow girl is what you're getting. You glow girl, exactly. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Amanda Soporito.
Starting point is 01:04:35 See, I told you I put your names. How long does it take for your vision on paper to become a. finished gown and she's a huge fan of you by that oh thank you for your question and that's a good one because it's a good one it's so funny every dress really goes through a different lifestyle um i say like it's life because i really see these dresses as like little humans for me yeah um if you had to put an average on it i would say three months wow that's quick um for like an original design yeah but some take longer some take less yeah it depends on how much beating goes into it. It just depends on what we have to
Starting point is 01:05:12 handcraft. That's so cool. But it's so funny because rarely ever do I sketch something out and then the dress looks exactly like the sketch. Really? Yeah, because it really does evolve a lot. You think about like... Your sketches are so good. Thank you. I love sketching. Like I love illustrating and I think if I wasn't a reconstructed surgeon or designer, I would have been I think a graphic artist or like an animator. Oh, cool. Yeah. Because I'm obsessed
Starting point is 01:05:39 Maybe you can take that up on the side. I always wanted to be a cartoon voice. Oh, my gosh. If we ever have a cartoon. Okay. I can be your voice. Okay. Go team.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Okay. Done. You do the whole... Let me think of a character for you. And I'll make you like a little comic book. Oh, man. I could be like... Let me think about it.
Starting point is 01:05:56 You know the name Juanita? I could be Wynita. Wynita. She's always just like trying to steal the microphone and drinking wine. Adult coloring books are making a huge comeback right now. I'm all about it. So... All about it.
Starting point is 01:06:09 look at this i even have the app where you color yeah okay we're on it um okay maria hensley wants oh she has three more's four oh talk about winnie and doodle being best friends how have winnie and doodle they need to meet they need to meet your dog is so freaking cute your dog is freaking cute yes you're right you're right you're right absolutely we are both right yeah you nailed it there they do need to be friends and we need to do a photo shoot with them okay done okay same Girl, Maria Hensley. How many weddings have you been to where the bride or bridesmaids are wearing your dress? You can't count. A lot. How many weddings? Yeah. Oh, gosh. So many. I mean, just next year, I think my husband and I have 12 weddings. And almost every bride is wearing Haley page or some elements. I know. Oh, yeah, that's a lot. That's crazy. But I think it's so funny because I also have been to weddings where the bride's not wearing Haley page. And everyone's like, you're like, no, everyone else is like, um.
Starting point is 01:07:14 It's so funny because people come up and they're like, oh, I loved the dress. And I was like, me too. It was Marcos andino. You're like, who I love. But I can still love a dress. Exactly. And it's so funny because I mean, I don't even. Isn't that funny?
Starting point is 01:07:28 It's not like poor me. I just love the fact that it's the industry. And I'm so supportive of so many different designers and all that kind of stuff. But I love it. I love the fact that people want to represent and support. totally you've got a large support group i want to crash more weddings like that's my goal this this that's my new year's resolution sean and i used to do it all the time would you want to do it together i i would absolutely love to i'm going to crash your wedding well you can't crash it if you're invited
Starting point is 01:07:55 dang it um but that's one of uh the first things sean and i did together we were finally a couple living in vancouver after the show and we were on the beach one time doing like this little habachi barbecue on the beach and there's a wedding in this little hut by the beach and we're like just off the show we're like screw it let's go oh my gosh so we just walk in and start dancing on the dance floor drinking the drinks and all of a sudden one person was like are you from the bachelorette and we were like and it turned into a whole thing and we had pictures we became friends with the bride and room and from that moment on we were like wedding crashing is our thing we want to do it more we've really slacked lately but i think it's great
Starting point is 01:08:35 I think Rick and Donna need to crash a wedding. Yeah, man. If only they weren't us. If only they were real people and not us. Oh, man. They are real. What are you trying to say? They are.
Starting point is 01:08:46 They really, like, don't hurt the fan base. No, and I really have to separate myself, too. Like, sometimes I speak about Rick as if he's not me. So I totally get it. Meg wants to know, the real Meg, Obie, wants to know, what is your favorite non-traditional color for a gown? Ooh, probably blush. Blush.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah, I fucking love blush. I want to say blush, and champagne, like, is right behind it. Yeah. So maybe blush champagne. Yeah, I love that. I absolutely am on board with that. Yes. Do you have a favorite gown that you have designed from Kendra Hostler?
Starting point is 01:09:27 I think this is like such a hard question because I really am like a caffeinated squirrel when it comes designs. I'm just like, what's the next one? What's the next one? Um, but this past season I designed a dress based off of a twall print, which is like the blue and white classic like ginger jar twall. Yeah. And I created the entire artwork from Fantasia. So, and like Disney movies. So I hid like baby unicorns and Pegasus and like a Latin's castle and mermaids and all this stuff into the twall. And it was literally the most magical, exciting dress. I feel like, I feel like, I've ever done. Oh, that's amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And I, if I could, if I was getting married right now, I'd get married in that dress. Oh. Which is amazing because I loved my dresses on the day. But of course, it's nice to kind of like, ooh, something new. Yeah. Like, whatever. Yeah. So that's probably my favorite.
Starting point is 01:10:17 It's the Gilmore. Okay. Named after David Gilmore, who's my, one of my favorite artists of all time, Pink Floyd. Oh, okay. But yes. Yes. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Oh, see, that's a great story, too. Thank you. Cool story, Hansel. Cool, cool story, Hansel. Thank you for movie coding. Stephanie Webb wants to know what is one hard know you had when it came to selecting the perfect dress? Like it was something in it and you're like, no, absolutely not. So I think a hard no would be black.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Really? Which is funny because I actually think you could pull off a black wedding dress and Sarah Jessica Parker completely pulled off a black wedding dress. Right. But for me, I don't think I would ever. send down a black dress on the runway. And it's not because, like, oh, I, like, it's one of my favorite colors of all time. Is it because, um, um, like, aesthetically, like, everybody coming out that would just stick out like a sore thumb or what? I think that it's too associated with funerals. And I think that's my only, like, thing against it in terms, but it's
Starting point is 01:11:26 funny because it's like, you see this gorgeous celebrity on a red carpet and like, it's, it's beautiful dress. And I'm like, wow, if that dress was in black, it would be a, be like next level amazing. But I think for the wedding day, and I say this now, but like watch flash forward six months later and I have a black dress. But you never know. But for now, I would say that that's my heart now, I guess. I get that. That makes sense. Yeah. However, when I talk to Sean, he said. He said I could see her black dress. That was one of my questions I had for you. I didn't get to you. So when we were designing and we. Yes, it was collaborative. I did do a sketch. I did do a sketch. You did. It was fierce, too. Super. Power shoulders. Maybe I can use that for your
Starting point is 01:12:08 cartoon. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Power shoulders. Please give me power shoulders. You actually reached out to Sean to see what kind of dress he saw me in. Yes. And what did he say? He said color. Sean said color. It was the first thing he said color. And he was like, I could even see her in a black dress. And it was like the first thing he said. I love that he just even like goes there, like that he would have this conversation. I know. And he was so like, eloquent too in the way he was describing things and very fashionable so he is a fashioning stuff I mean but he does he really does like I always say like guys probably have no say in the wedding but I really think he would be involved and I'd want him to be involved and make decisions and I'd want
Starting point is 01:12:53 it I just want it to be when we're both like let's sit down and plan and he's like I'd really like this I'd be like cool I'd really like this cool let's make it work I don't want it to be one of those things you aren't doing anything And why aren't you helping me And what do you want? You even want this? Yes. I do feel like so many couples fight
Starting point is 01:13:11 When they plan a wedding I always say that they should go to IKEA first And then a counselor And then a counselor before they get married Because IKEA is like one of those places That's so overwhelming It's magical but it's overwhelming So overwhelming
Starting point is 01:13:24 But if you can make like decisions there That's true Then you can plan the wedding That's actually good That's a good little stepping stone This is not an ad for IKEA However, IKEA, if you'd like to pay us, we are down. Okay, last question, again, for Maria, because she had three.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I love her. Who is your favorite celebrity you have styled for? And then she put besides Caitlin, of course, which I'm not a celebrity. Fine. I won't say that. But who is your favorite celebrity you've designed for? I can say Andy, right? Andy, obviously.
Starting point is 01:13:55 If it's not Andy, it's Andy. It's one of you. Not Chrissy Deacon. Maybe together. Well, actually, no, I love Chrissy. Tee again. But actually, Chrissy was through her stylist. Okay. So I didn't even really get to work with her one-on-one,
Starting point is 01:14:07 which I would love to do. And I got the pleasure of meeting her when I was designing for Allie Raisman, who's also amazing, and I loved working with her. But I really do love people that have a sense of humor. Like, that's my main thing. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 01:14:23 And Andy is like, well, first of all, she's a babe. She's a babe. She's funny. She's spicy. Spice. And she's She looks good in a lot of things. Yes. He's got a great bod. As do you.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I feel like you both are just like a little fiery duo. I was hoping you'd say that. Yeah. I was fishing. And you took the bait playing tennis there. Okay, we've got some can you not bridesillas and then we're going to wrap this up. My girlfriend, she was the last one that tweeted that's funny. Alexis.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Hi, Alexis. Hi, Alexis. She said, can you not tell me to buy a peach bridesmaid dress that costs $600? And then she put a Ryan Reynolds giff of him just putting his head in his hands right now. That is perfection. So wait, can you not tell me to buy a peach bribes made dress that cost, is that a lot? That is a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:15 For a bridesmaid dress, right? Yes. But, you know, I feel like that's peach. It's, I mean, depends what your color is. It was a cute snort. I think that's a good one. I think that's a really good one. Because I think as a bride, you feel overwhelmed.
Starting point is 01:15:30 just dressing yourself. And then when you feel like you kind of have to decide for a group of girls. A group of girls and you need them all to be happy, you're already screwed. It doesn't matter
Starting point is 01:15:38 if it's peach or freaking black. It doesn't matter. It's a lot. And also, there's so many different ways to go about it now because there's a lot of different sites and websites and
Starting point is 01:15:50 opportunities to kind of like have them search online for something they like and then make the selections and mix and match. Actually, what is your take on one of my girlfriends did a wedding?
Starting point is 01:16:00 Oh gosh, it was beautiful wedding in Vancouver and she had everybody wear black and white for photos. Pretty. I loved it. Yes. I actually, so as much as I just like kind of was like, oh, no, not the black wedding dress. But black down the aisle, I get it. I love black wedding dress or a black prize mates. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. It's so elegant. Like if you're doing a
Starting point is 01:16:20 black tie theme and black looks so good on everyone. It does. And black and white just looks good. I think it's together. It's very elegant. The groom is wearing black. Yeah, usually. The bride is usually wearing white. If you put everybody, I loved it. It was really cool. My girlfriend tifted that in her whole, everyone that was at the wedding. I mean, I got shit on on Twitter for wearing white to a wedding.
Starting point is 01:16:40 But I was like, but she told me, I could. She said yes. I said yes. To the white dress. Oh, this is actually a very good point from Natalie Melons. Melanson. She said, here's my theory. Bridezilla's exist because everyone drives the bride crazy with their unwanted input.
Starting point is 01:17:00 expectations, criticism, etc. I almost hit Bridezilla level. I had to cage myself a few times. Can you not? Can you not? You know what? This can be an open discussion. She needs holy matrimoji. Natalie, I hear you. I love her. Yeah, you need what is? Holy matrimogy. Holy match emoji. You need that. Because you can send them to your bride's maids when they're annoying you. So great. Like the fire, fire breathing one. Right. And then it's like, ha ha, ha, but seriously. But seriously. Yeah. Exactly. I get it. I get it from all ends. Can you not. Kelly Good said brides that have their mother speak for them. Make your own appointment. See, okay, that was kind of on point with what I was saying earlier is you can get overwhelmed in your appointment sometimes.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yes. There's a lot of opinions or you feel, you know, like it's hard to have your moment. It's better to kind of taper off the entourage or maybe have two appointments. There's a lot of those that I'm reading right now. I'm like, okay, this seems to be an ongoing thing. You're right. You would know. There's a common denominator.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Let's see Oh, it's so funny Because look at all these girls That are replying, they're all in wedding dresses I mean That's amazing Spirit animal, spirit animal Spirit animal
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah, this is amazing Oh weird, that girl's in a wedding dress But responded to another Can you not from another podcast Kaylee said she just got married She could go on forever but she won't Oh She also said
Starting point is 01:18:25 Brides who are Brides Zillas to their wedding party Because they waited until the week of their wedding to get shit done. That will be me. No, but you won't be a bright zeal. You'll just be like, deal with it. You also nailed this one. Carmen said,
Starting point is 01:18:39 can you not dictate what color my nails should be painted for the gel, manny, petty you demand I get and don't pay for. These nails don't magically fall off tomorrow. Nails don't paint themselves. Oh, my gosh. There's a lot of kids.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I could go on for a long time. Yeah, we're going to stop there. Sometimes people get angry and I'm like, Oh, don't be mean. Oh, no. Yeah. Okay. We'll stop there.
Starting point is 01:19:02 We'll stop there. So, okay, before we shut this down, just tell us all about, tell us where we can find you on Instagram. Tell us the name of the show again, where we can find that. Don't tell us about your Twitter because you've got to step up your game before you do that. Definitely. Were you making an appearance on there? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Okay. And then our website, haleypage.com. That's an easy one. Okay. And the show coming out on... So the digital I didn't even really speak to, but the digital is going to be on Facebook watch. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Through TLC. And that's Haley Ever After. I believe is premiering on January 13th. Okay. I could be wrong. But tune into my Instagram. That's okay. We'll put it...
Starting point is 01:19:53 We'll do like a little Instagram story when it's all happening. The digital's more like in the world of. Yeah. It's more fashion show. It is really exciting, and people are going to love watching. Like, I've seen a little clips from it, and you're just so well-spoken, and you are so knowledgeable about what you're doing, obviously. That's why you're so knowledgeable about sparkles. You really do.
Starting point is 01:20:17 And I'm just excited for you because I think you deserve all this. And, again, you're just, you're living your best life and your dream life, and it's because you believed in yourself. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for tuning into the show. Just going to do a sponsor review so I can remind you of all the great deals. Rightsellers, 50% off your first box of four bottles of wine, brightsellers.com slash off the vine, daily harvest, three free cups in your first box, daily harvest.com with promo code vine. Fabletics, get two pairs of leggings for just $24, fabletics.com slash vine, and Amazon.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Keep the podcast free while you shop. Amazon.com slash shop. slash Caitlin Bristow. And last but not least, did you hear about the two cell phones who got married? What? The reception was terrific. Oh, my. That's a dirty joke, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:21:11 It's very clean, actually, for me. Well, obviously, my confession wasn't that? Yeah, yeah. This is a very clean podcast overall, but it's very inspiring and I love it. Thank you. That's because we forgot to bring Andy on as the co-host. Otherwise, this thing sort of got saucy. We can do a 2.0. A three point out.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I was going to say absolutely and hell yeah and I went how. Hell yeah. How yeah. Absolutely. We will do it. We'll do another. I mean, I'm not in New York forever, but I'll come back.
Starting point is 01:21:40 When do you leave? We need to make pajama pants. Yes, please. I have every Wednesday off now. Okay. So can we please plan a pajama pant party? So tomorrow. So I'll see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:21:52 What's your address? Show up. Please invite me over. I'll bring my dog. bring wine and doodle. I'll bring wine and doodle. The best combo the world has ever heard of. Thank you so much for being on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:22:06 I'm so glad that you came in and shared your sparkle. And I feel like there's so many girls out there that will listen to this. And not only take like wedding stuff and design advice, but like just life advice and finding yourself. So thank you for that. And if you guys don't want to miss an episode of Off the Vine, you can download the podcast one app. Go to podcast1.com.
Starting point is 01:22:26 subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Haley just finished her wine, so it's a day. We're calling to quits. So I can't have a refill. Well, I would give you refill, but I drank the whole bottle. Oh, my. Thanks for the afternoon delight. Yeah, you're welcome.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I'm always here for that. Thank you so much. Thank you. Have a good one, guys. We'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Briscoe. Get new episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcast1.com, the podcast 1 app, and subscribe on Apple Podcast.
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