Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Jason & Molly

Episode Date: September 3, 2019

Today, Kaitlyn sits down with one of the most popular couples in Bachelor history Jason & Molly Mesnick and they reveal all things Bachelor. Hear the truth about how life was behind the scenes on their season. They share how the producers can influence some of the cast decisions and talk about their real married life after the show. And the games continue when Kaitlyn plays NBD "not a big deal" where they run down some of the juiciest Bachelorette & Bachelor in Paradise show moments. Sit back and enjoy! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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They're married. kids, living a normal, beautiful life here in Seattle. Also, Jason's here with us today. Jason Mesnick, Jason Tardick, and Molly Mazzick are here with me today. You know him as the man who pulled the original switcheroo. Do you just hate when people, that's how they know you? What? I'm so old.

I can't hear you. And you know her as the amazing woman. He pulled this move for 10 years later, they're happy and better than ever, sitting down to tell me about their relationship, their lives, and their thoughts on the franchise these days. You know them. You love them. Please welcome to the podcast, Jason and Molly. You love them, baby.

I clap for myself. Love hate. If you remember them from back in the day. Yeah, I know. I feel like people don't even know us anymore. Well, it was before HD TV, before H.D. TV. Before H.D. Bachelor TV. We were the last season where it was like analog. Really?

Yep. Oh, interesting. So if you watch, if they ever show any kind of playback, you're like, I can't even see that. It's like fuzzy. It's like fuzzy. Wait, that's so. That's weird. So who's the next season after you? Gillian?

Jillian. Yeah. I think she, well, actually, she may not have been HD either. I think, I think we were the last one. Okay. That's so interesting. Yeah. Thank God.

I got lucky that it wasn't an HG. Oh, no. What is it going to be in like 10 years? Like, they're going to be like holograms. Yeah, I know. Oh, my God. You can make out with one of the contestants on your own. Oh, my gosh.

Wait, that's wild. I was thinking that, though, because I always hated when people referred to me as like the controversial Bachelorette or like the one. I mean, why? Well, I don't know because it, like, maybe I was just sensitive to it because I was made to feel so much shame around it. No, why do people say you were controversial? I don't even remember this. Oh.

Oh, geez. Because we have bad memories at her age. I got to go. I'm like, just, Riley has her headphones on. No, she's fine. It's okay. No, because it was like, we talked about having sex. Oh, that's stupid.

I know. But then I wonder, I'm like, because I got annoyed at people like saying that, always bringing that up in interviews. I'm like, do you guys, are you so over the switcheroo talk? No. No, that's how people know us. That's fine. Okay. Yeah.

That's because it just happened. Oh, with Ari and Becca. And so I feel like you guys got to come back into the franchise and talk about it there. Yeah. Thanks for bringing me back in. It almost happened again with Jed being, Jed and Hannah breaking up. And Hannah and Tyler are almost working out. Right.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. But so you guys just got back from Ireland. Yeah, like hours ago. Hours ago. Are you just so jet lag and tired? No, no. Well, we're on Ireland time. So I was wide awake at six.

am and you're saying that everybody out there drinks till four in the morning like nonstop you know you know who's half irish who that girl are you she was with her people i was in the land of my people oh god that's so fun have you been back there before no that was my first time yeah oh i love ireland where did you guys go we were well we were up in northern ireland valley castle of northern ireland yeah we're all they film all the game of throne stuff so we went oh my god that's so look it literally took eight hours to get from seattle to dublin in another hours to get all the way to northern Ireland. Wow. But the funny

thing is I went to see all these, you were golfing, but when I went to see all the Game of Thrones, I don't watch the show. So it's nothing to me. Oh, my God, I would die to see that. How cool is it in personal? It's all really cool. It's beautiful, right? Then we went to Scotland for a couple days, and then back to Dublin. Did you guys go to the

cliffs of Moore? No. I think that's on the west coast of like... I should probably know that. I've been there, but... That's in Ireland, not Northern Ireland. We spent more time, I think. I could be way off. But we were mostly in Northern Ireland.

Yeah. Which we know is a different country now. Different country. Yeah. And you guys have lived in Seattle since the show. I was there way before. I've been here since I was here. Well, I knew that.

But you guys together, like, tell me, like, how you ended up in Seattle deciding that this is going to be your home. Well, I have a kid. Yeah. So I was never living. Right. Right. Okay. We date, after our finale, we dated long distance.

I was in Wisconsin at the time. We did long distance for like 10 months. Yeah. And then I decided. to move out here and that was exactly 10 years ago really really yep it was exactly 10 years ago it was like October of 20 2009 really okay okay and then we got married February 2010 yeah how you just got over the long distance like I remember talking to you about that yeah you guys did that it's the worst it is the worst so you did it for did you say 10 months oh and that's not a

quick flight either right well it was for us we got really lucky at the time that like this was probably like the only benefit we got from being on the show because social media wasn't around right like milk it milk it like make all this money but there was an airline that like sponsored our flights back and forth to see each other oh that's cool yeah we had like a 10 pack yeah punch card that's a pretty big perk though oh it was amazing yeah and the show almost wasn't going to let us do it because at that time no one was getting like deals from being on the show, so they weren't used to it, and they wanted to, like, control everything you did. Sure.

Are you happy that you went through it in the time that you did? Thank God. Yeah. Like, I didn't even have a Facebook account at that point. Right. Well, yes and no. I mean, yes, because of the media around it, but, like, you look how much people, like, I don't know this social media world, but you guys know it's better than I do. People make filthy money for posting a picture.

It's crazy. It's dumb. I don't get, like, I once Molly gave me a cell phone that she got for Samsung. That's like the biggest thing he got. It's crazy. I don't get any of that stuff. I'm like, so wait, we could actually have us, you could do that and have another job and live a happy, happy life. There's good and bad with it, I think.

So financially, like, I think this last month I probably made three times what I would make in a month of working for the bank at a corporate banker level, which is nuts. The bad with that, I think, like, kind of you alluded to is every aspect of your life. when you go into that show and you get off at the show is under a microscope, like everything. Like we know anything and everything about every contestant, right? Past relationships, what happened, text messages. That's what I think made the bad out.

Because, you know, when we did it, Instagram didn't exist. Yeah. So, and I always joke around about this, but like I remember going on social media back then and trying to figure out how to communicate people and it was MySpace. Oh, really?

MySpace was bigger than Facebook. That's crazy. And then I remember then all of a sudden Facebook took off and MySpace is a video or a music site now? Oh, it is? I think so. I think Justin Timberlake bought it. Yeah, I think so.

I wonder what's next. What's going to be like, oh, my God. I don't need one more thing. I do not want, like, I do ads every once in a while, but I actually hate doing it. Do you see that's, I hate doing it. That's the thing, too, is some people, like my girlfriend, who you probably know, too, is Whitney from Chris's season. Okay. So she kind of went back to her regular job as a fertility nurse, and she was like, I'm just

cut out for that world of doing ads and Instagram and be like you have to really the question is how like you guys know this world way better than me one how long will it last for right but two like maybe you think it's going to go away but you've got a million followers it's like having a magazine right right so it's not unless the next big thing is doesn't exist yet and you guys have zero and the new followers that's what I think so so you can speak to the marketing I can speak to the analytics of it I think you know you look at like a Super Bowl ad back in the even today you spend $3 million for 30 seconds 100 million people watch it you don't really know the demographic you have a good idea of gender and in the breakdown but today you can go on

Instagram you know where the people are following you their engagement what their interests are you can measure the ads you have analytics after ads so I don't think from a fiscal economic sense like that form of marketing is ever going anywhere but it might be a different platform but it might be a different platform because it's not subjective anymore you know it's it's direct and analytical that blows my mind but it seems like Instagram just keeping you keeps growing. I read some on Wall Street that all big companies now. It's like 4,500 companies are increasing on average their social media budget by 59% next year. So it's like when you think it's falling off, it's it's taking a different time. I remember our night on The Bachelor, the finale we

were on like 35 years ago, right? It was the biggest night I think on Twitter history and it was like 5,000 tweets. Yeah. It was something because it just was so new. Yeah. And now people don't even use Twitter? No. I love Twitter. You do? I do. Old school. But I know I am. Twitter's cool. But it's, that's why I have a podcast because I'm like, what if Instagram, like, oh, and then how long is podcasting going to be a thing? But you guys actually inspired me to start a podcast. How funny is that? I know. We're old school. Yeah. People don't even realize that. Did you guys have a podcast? We did. No way. We were. I listened to it. Yeah. I remember this because Jason this morning was like, what

if she remembers? Remember that like there was one episode where he's like, I don't even know who this Caitlin girl is. I remember that. Zip it! No, I remember because I was, like at that time, it wasn't a lot of social media stuff either, which is crazy. Like, it was there, but people didn't, I don't know. I feel like I didn't see you guys. Like, there wasn't Instagram stories.

Right. No, not at all. You know, so the way that I tuned in to what people were saying about the season was if they did like an article or your guys' podcast. And so I remember listening and, yeah, you, Jay's, I was like, who's Caitlin? I don't even know who this. look it all in and I was like damn it I'm not memorable

the part of the problem is I really don't watch the show like ever since like if people ask me I'm like when you know too much about it it's really hard for me to even get get through and watch one episode so it's the same thing like it's not a jab at anybody it's a jab at like I can't watch

the show anymore yeah your your your Bachelorette season and that's we started podcasting right before your Bachelorette season and that was the last season of the Bachelorette I've ever watched. Really? Yeah. I just don't.

She'll watch The Bachelor. I'll watch The Bachelor. Okay. I do not watch The Bachelorette. Why? Why? I just get more entertainment out of like watching girls be catty with each other versus guys. Yeah.

I've never seen your season, Jason. And Jason Mesnick, I've never seen your season with Deanna ever. And I've never seen Caitlin's season. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing is, it's also easy to watch if you chose to watch it. You won't even go back and watch it. It's just like I try.

I've never seen Paradise either. Okay. And I tried this season. I'm like, I want to. try people love it i watch the first two episodes you watch the last one we like have traveled i'm far behind and i'm like i can that's true so many hours of tv i could never get through this two episodes a week for paradise is just too much it's a lot but it's it's two it's one it's only one hour right no no it's forever it's too that's a problem like it's two hours twice a week yeah one hour

tv shows are a lot let alone two hours i was wondering that too like with you know how you said once you once you've been through it it's like hard to watch it now did you you I don't know if you can even still answer this But I always want to know how much the producers Had an influence on you with with the whole Ending of your season A ton I mean I've talked about like so anybody who's listening to this I've talked about this till I'm blue in the face

It's just nobody knows who I am anymore So I would say that so Gosh I mean I think even if I went back There's so much to this story right So I think even if I went back to like the day when I was picking I remember telling them the producers I was like I like I'm not going to propose to anybody. I just can't do that. And Fleiss, the owner of the show comes down.

He used to travel with us. He'd be like, that's not how it works, dude. He's like, bro, it's not going to happen like that. And I was like, oh. And so as a person, I didn't think I had a choice. Realistically, I probably did. It was my thing. But I'm like, what was it going to do? Throw me in the middle of New Zealand ocean or something like that. I don't know. I signed a lot of big. You know, it's a multi-millioner and I'm nobody. And so I like, fast forward. Like, I did make that choice to propose on my own but like with her I so Melissa the other girl and I had dated for a couple months and I guess I really thought it was clear that we had broken up yeah and I asked the producers I said I said so like now that her and I are broken up I'd love to see if Molly and I

could have a shot right just like who knows where it's going to go right and they said well you need to do this on camera because we've asked Molly to be the bachelorette the next season I was like, oh, are you fucking serious? I forgot. So they're like, so if you do it, you got to do it on camera. And I was like, this is not good. Like, there's no way this is going to turn out good for anybody involved. And they're like, if you want it, that's the way we're going to do it.

So they literally had me come out. And I guess like when I think about it, like Melissa, I could have handled that a lot better. But I thought we were kind of really past that point. Yeah. But we obviously weren't. Right. And then.

I think for her, it was more that she didn't know. She knew you guys were broken up. She didn't know that you wanted another chance with me. And that's what they were. And they had the production part of it was they kept on saying, like, listen, now that we know you're going to ask Molly for a shot, she wants, we want her to be our girl, but we need Melissa to cry on camera. So we need you to like help us deliver her as like somebody that the audience can feel

sorry for and the audience can love. So she can be our bachelor. They didn't know she had a boyfriend back home. So they actually had me at one point call her. say this is between everything and like will you like do you think you want to be the bachelorette like oh my gosh so the production part of it was really like I guess when you like as a listener and a viewer like you're like that person has the choice on their own they can do whatever they want but like when you're there like you just don't know like it's like one it's like you're

one person against a thousand yeah got like art director and producers and camera people and you're like wait a second they're all on one team and like yeah you feel very alone and And like you, I remember by the end of my season, I was just like, whatever you want me to do, I'll do it. Like, just get me out of here. I don't care anymore. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I just remember one point they're like, we're going to sit here and drink all day until you say I love you. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm like, all day? I like to drink, but that's a long time. And they will too. I sat in a room for six hours once until I said that I fell in love with crystals, six hours. And by the sixth hour, I was like, oh, if I say it, we. We can go. We're done.

Okay. I'll set it. When we were filming our, after the final rose, when he was saying, like, let's go get a drink, give it a shot. And, like, you go through all the emotions because I'm like, wait a minute, he wants me back. And people gave us a ton of crap for, like, I think, like, kissing and at the end of it. We sat there. We filmed that for hours. And they looked at us and said, we will not finish filming until you guys kiss.

Even Harrison was, even Chris was in on it. Oh, my God. We're so tired. We've been here for so long. I was like, let's just get this over with. No, because don't you remember the original plan was after I said that. I'm like, let's go grab a cup of coffee. And then like Chris stands up and like somebody, one of the producers called down from upstairs.

And they're like, Jason, you got to give her a rose. And then you have to kiss her. I'm like, what? Yeah. Like, we're done with all this. Yeah. That's so great. And then you guys got, you got married on TV.

Yeah. Yeah. That experience was way different. I was amazing. I was going to say, was that a better experience for you because you guys and you got rained on like downpour. Downpour. outside on your wedding day on TV. Tell me about that.

Well, luckily, not luckily, but like with all the controversy and all the hate that we got from our finale, we were polarized. We were very polarizing. We used that against the producers for a full year. Oh, good. They wanted us back, I think, on Gillian's, men tell all, and they had to really pony up to get us there. Really?

Yes. We were not going to be it. Ten years ago, money versus now. And then for the wedding, like, they were. really wanted to do it because there had never been a TV wedding since Trista's. Right. Wow. And so we had them, like, they had to do what we wanted. We made rules like, this cannot be, Bachelor cast is not allowed unless they are friends with

us and we've met them. Oh, that's good. Except for they snuck people in. A few. I was going to say, because they have like a rule or something that all Bachelor and Bachelors need to be invited to all these weddings. It's very different from our wedding. We were able to control all that. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. And now, do you guys ever watch it back? No. I mean, Riley went through a phase where she watched it a lot. That's so cute. Really? So was it an own show or was it like a section

of the last show? I think it was the last one. It was like a two-hour special. Like they just don't do it anymore. How come? Why do you think they don't do it anymore? It was money. It was a ton of work. Well, they did like Crystal and Chris are getting married on this season. They do a lot of Bachelor Paradise. Yeah, so Monday or two this week. Yeah, this week. So we had a small

clip. Back then we actually had because of the Bachelor, we became friends with the guy who was the, what was he the show Jeff Jeff what was he like he was like a programmer for ABC he just yeah he ran all programming you're right for ABC and I would text him I'm like okay so we're kind of

negotiating this wedding thing like do you have any input and he was like it's it's all about numbers yeah like it's like the bachelor the bachelor in Fleiss and those guys would do every wedding it's ABC who's like okay like is it worth our dollars or do we put a Dolly Pardon special on that we get more eyeballs

right right because who doesn't love dolly I mean, that's a top, that's teeter tar. That's the second time dollies come on my dog today before we start podcasting. Or the pentatonic's Christmas special, you know, whatever. But that's what ABC has to decide, you know? It's like what's going to get more advertising dollars? That's true.

When the viewership has gotten less and less and less and less. That's true. And I guess we should say that Jason has to leave us in 10 minutes. Oh, gosh, is that already time? Yeah. So we should get, Jason, you're just, Jason, my Jason. I'm dying for coffee. It's got to be here.

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Not so much anymore. I think it's when like she was little and it would be stuff like if you took a picture in her car seat and the buckle wasn't all the way up to her neck and like. They just pick out anything. Anything. But you know what? It really, I don't really get it that bad anymore. I was wondering about that with you guys.

I feel like you've probably weaned out the mean. And you just probably have a lot of support that follow you now. It's pretty rare. Well, Jason's never even on social media, but. What website is this? It's pretty rare that I get a negative comment, to be honest. That's so nice. Yeah, it is really nice.

Yeah, I'm just so terrified. I even get, we get dog parent shamed. I was just say, we get dog pain. Why? How do you shame someone about a dog? It could be anything. We don't have the right leash. He's in the water.

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audience. Okay, were you guys prepped to do a confession? Because we got to get Jason's confession before he goes. Yes. I forgot what I was saying. Does that have to be bachelor related? No. Oh yeah, mine was bachelor related. No, that's good. It's like a funny story. Oh yeah. Okay, I got it. I got it. I remember I think it was the second or first row ceremony. Again, pre-HD

so you can see what I was really feeling. and I remember one of the like my producer came up to me and this was I don't know halfway through the night you know it's long nights and he's like listen you got to stop drinking because you we don't know what you're saying you're slurring all your words and like you just don't look good and I was like shit like yeah thanks for telling me you know and literally like 10

I couldn't say less than 10 minutes later he comes back and he's like check that you got to keep on drinking I'm like why he goes do you know how many girls you've kissed tonight? Like this is, he's like, we couldn't get you to kiss girls before. Now, like, so I mean, he's like, you've gone through a lot tonight. He's like, drink up, buddy. Keep going. So I think it like, and I was really conscious through that experience of not like, especially

I had, you know, my son was like three at the time. I'm like, I don't want to be perceived as like I can't drink too much. I got to be smart about what I say. I'd rather be the smiley fun guy than the drunk asshole. Of course. Yeah, of course. But I just remember distinctively going, wow, like, should I keep drinking now?

Right. Right. That's funny because that's when you were kissing the girls. Yeah, you kissed some girls that it was like, ooh. Did you want to be doing that? Really? Yeah. I mean, every girl in the show is pretty.

I did. Yeah, I did. I watched it. In some episodes we would watch together because we were, it was after, we filmed our after the final rose in January. So we were back together the whole season. Because of everything.

Because I called early and they're like, we got to put this together. And it was a close set, no audience or anything like that. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so it's just you got, that's, yeah. Molly's got thick skin.

I don't, like, the whole Bachelor thing, like, it really didn't. You just, it would, like, drive me crazy when we were filming and girls would get so upset about seeing another girl kiss him. And I'm like, guys, you're on the bachelor. Who signed up for it? Yeah. Molly's like, it's just physical. Who cares? I'm like, do you still think that way?

Yeah. Yeah, let's talk now. That's, that's how I felt when I was on it. I remember being, like, when girls were getting all upset, I'm like, oh, my. my gosh like what did you think you were walking into it's weird and like having like feelings like early on it's like i can't i just i have a hard time watching you're very practical two two weeks into the into this show and you're crying about loving him and i'm like i didn't i didn't even love jason the entire time like all the way until the end i wasn't in love with him i didn't

know you you've never said that to me this is not surprised you no like i told him they like coaxed me into getting to say I love you like I did not I didn't even know him yeah I knew I liked him right wanted to date him right love him yeah I love that that's her confession to you yeah I'm shocked what the hell you're not no but that's so real like it's but let's go but that's so real like it's but a lot of people get so caught up in it but you didn't I don't know how like it the the producers do such a good job like I want everybody out there just to take a step back and you're like, it's been two months. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, do you, like, maybe, it does work out some of the time. But, like, can you really passionately fall in love and cry over somebody in two weeks? No. And I think most of the time people walk away from the show and you're like, wow, I wasn't actually really even into that person. Always. It's just like the situation where every, it's a competition.

It's a competition. And so, of course you want the guy that everyone wants. See, I view it a little. Yes, that's part of it. But I think the way I view it and thinking about when I was on The Bachelorette first is I remember like the first week let's go through in eight weeks eight weeks real quick the first week they're like let's pretend okay Caitlin's a bachelor do you like Caitlin you're like yeah that's why I'm here yeah yeah yeah like week two is like do you think you could date Caitlin you're like yeah

last week I told you she was hot right this week I could date her in week three you're like well could you date her long term yeah first week I told you she was hot so and then I think you go through the eighth week you're like definitely falling in love with her definitely want to marry her and you're talking about I think competition is part of it like especially at the road ceremonies but like if you go through the eight weeks you're like I've been talking about one girl yeah for eight weeks like I couldn't dream about anybody else and I told you for eight weeks and here I am today right yeah so were there a ton of growing pains for you guys after the show like you guys are together now and you're out of it I think just initially like

I think initially like they like going back to like when they asked me like to do this special episode about switching and all that I was like I just know it's going to be bad like and everybody from, like, I remember, like, the showrunners to People Magazine to everybody was like, oh, it's great, it's great, it's great. Like, don't worry, people are going to feel for you. They're going to love for you. And the next day when People Magazine came out, and I just, like, we became friends with the writer for People Magazine, she calls up and she's like, I'm so sorry.

And I was like, what do you mean? You guys, everything was supposed to be fine, right? And it's like betrayal, like, every news. I think once they realized the public turned on us, they also turned on. That's a great way to say it. And it was like, oh, I was like, that's where like the lesson for me is like, you, I knew it. Yeah. You know, if I would have just done it my way, which I don't like, it probably would have been like, I'm not going to do any special.

Melissa and I broke up and I'll call Molly when I can. Right. That was my way. Like, that just wasn't sexy enough for TV. But to be totally honest, I think that going through that is honestly why we're here. Like, we probably, had you proposed to me that last day? we would have broken up probably because it's just awkward what is it did it love you i wouldn't say yes we just enforced us to go back to our regular lives immediately because we wanted

nothing to do with being in the public eye right so we were able to just go back to be a normal stop drop rule do you think that's what it like going back to just normal life and yeah 100% yeah yeah i think i mean i don't know it like i think everybody else always asks us for the advice but i think the people that that are married from the show let's I mean you guys soon one day but I'm saying like people who go back and like gotta just get away

like everybody wants to move to L.A. and make some money and do like all that stuff and I'm like good luck man like how do you balance that and just living and getting to know someone because I mean we didn't get to know each other on the show but like just when you meet someone on the show and then come off of it you don't really know them

so the right thing to do would be to go back to normal life and try and actually get to know each other and decide if that could work. So we've talked about this. If you, the person that you end up with, whoever it is, but it's yours, how many hours total in two months do you think you spend with that one person? On the show.

Including, including Fantasy Suite? Take out the fantasy suite. Okay. Three hours. Okay. Okay. So if you throw in the fantasy suite, you're maybe, maybe up into the 20s. Yeah.

Yeah. So I would say the same thing. So going back to the viewers, I'm like, could you really fall in love with somebody in 35 hours, 30 hours, including your one overnight? Yeah. You could think you're falling in love. Oh, yeah. And you're in your bubble and you're talking about one person. Right.

And so Paradise is filmed in half the time, isn't it? Yeah. But they spent all day together. That's true. That's true. Do they though? Yeah. Yes. They can spend all day. They're limiting alcohol now.

Yeah. That's boring. Yeah. So we only had. That is so, I remember when we went back for Ari Spanelli and I'm like, can I get a glass of a wine around this place? And like, you have to like sign your name. Oh, that's right. And like, I'm like, this is bullshit.

I agree. Back then they would be like, okay, so I was thinking about the Bachelorette. It was like, okay, we're going to run to the store. We're going to get everybody food. And they're like, when they weren't really paying attention to what you wanted to eat, but they're like, what do you guys want on the liquor list? Yeah. And it was like, whatever you guys wanted.

Unlimited. Unlimited. Yeah, that was same. I think, thank God it was. I was blackout half my season. Yeah, we had such a. As the Bachelorette. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Are you still drunk? I was drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk right now. They had to do the same thing with me where I had to go do like this rose ceremony and then they were like, oh, we've got a problem with Kaylin's mic. And they took me and they're like, you were not making any sense. Oh my gosh.

You have to do that all over again. Okay. Do you have to go, Jason? Within five minutes. Okay. Because we need to hear Molly's confession. Oh, well, I don't know if I have a good one. Yes, you do.

Riley's listening. We've heard a lot of confessions. I didn't love Jason on the season. I know. I've done everything. It's out there. I think it's more just like when, like I said, I love you. It was the fantasy sweet date. And I will never forget the producers is Carrie Lee, who's still one of our good friends today.

She no longer works for the show. And she was like, Jason doesn't think you like him. And so he's actually going to send you home because you haven't told him you love him. And so I was like, oh, shoot. But you know, there's some that that's not fully true, but I remember. Here we go. So here's my truth now, but now that you're saying that, I remember, so Molly's not somebody who shows her emotions overtly. I'm not emotional.

But I remember, like, us having really good times throughout the process. And then, like, at times I was like, I can't even tell if she likes me. So I remember they're like, I remember Carrie Lee and she's like, I'll talk to her. I didn't say I'm going to send you home. But I'm like, I just can't tell. Like, Melissa is like all in and I can tell that. But Molly just is like stone cold. I'm like, somebody talking.

it's just so awkward like with the cameras and like well I'm not emotional anyway though cameras are not like I just am not like that yeah I don't know wait the other thing I was thinking is when um so I was going to be the Bachelorette yeah right and then I wasn't yeah and so I watched Julian season knowing that that group of guys would have been my guys right right so I watched the season being like okay who would I choose who I went up with who I be with and that was like Kipton was on that season Michael Stagliano who were still friends Like Reed. Reed.

Reed was who I would have picked. My sister is still in love with Reed. I have no idea. Yeah. She, like, follows him on. She just told me that, like, three days ago. Wait, I need to go follow it. Like, I don't know, I don't know anything about his life right now.

I feel like, no, you don't. He's married. He's got kids. Really? Yeah, yeah. Reed was my guy. Hey, so reads who you would have picked. So Flaise, if you're listening, I'm looking for shot number three.

Shot number three. Do you take grandparents? I will put all my money and life savings on the fact that he is not listening to my So did he like win or come in top three, top four, right? He was, he was top three and he was one of those dudes who came back to the proposal day and tried, I think, I think. I remember, he tried to propose to her and she was like, I already let you go, no. He's a dreidel spinner like me, though. He's a Jewish boy.

Is he Jewish? Oh, yeah. So when I got into real estate like six years ago, he's the first person I called. Read? Yeah, because he's a good, like, successful real estate guy in here. And like, as I was getting to the business here years ago, I was like, hey, so like, did the bachelor thing help you out or not? Are you sure this is Reed? Yeah, he's in Philly.

Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm on his mailing list. What's his last name? Reve-Rosenthal. Oh, yeah. Shabbat Shalom, bro. Shabbat Shalom. I got a Jewish. I'm half Jewish. Yeah, see, you can tell. The Mazzleth. Yeah, the Gross family. Mazel tovah.

Mazzletop. We'll be back with more Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Christo. Okay, you've got two minutes. We're going to play a quick game, okay? Okay. Okay.

It's called NBD, but not a big deal, or PC, okay? So we're going to play a game where I tell you the following Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise scenarios, and you decide if the situation is not a big deal, we're going to support their decisions, or demands to sit down with Chris Harrison. Oh, okay. Okay. Blake hooking up or talking to half the Bachelor in Paradise cast before going on the show. Messed out.

Really? I think so. No, it's not. Listen, some people just have to take the Bachelor cameras away from it. Like, you're a single person. Go live your life. I know. And don't live it through the show.

Fine. So I did watch the first two episodes, right? Yeah. He looks really sleazy. Yeah. I mean, like, so he should have been honest about that he did it. But they know that he wouldn't have let him on the show if he said he did it. I guess.

You're like, all right. He shouldn't have gone on the show. That's the bottom line. Well, yeah. Go look up with all the girls off the show. Well, fine. Yeah, maybe don't do that. And then, but if you do it.

do that then don't go on the show in my opinion you know what's going to happen yeah blake and i are still really good buddies oh sorry i'm sorry no no no no no it's fine it wasn't like you blake the three and colton kind of like they were deciding yeah between the three of us yeah yeah and he blake is a good guy at heart he just made honestly some bad decisions but why let him do what he want like jasonics just jealous he wishes i was never single for the indians he was never single through any of the bachelor's i don't know what you guys are going through it yeah he's definitely He is going through a really tough time. Yeah. That sucks.

And he seems like a good dude. He really is. And he'll admit that he made mistakes he was being sleazy. But, you know. And I know that you guys don't really watch anymore. But you heard, I'm sure, that Hannah revealed she had sex in the windmill like four times. Yes. Okay.

So Hannah revealing that her- The Bachelorette Hannah. Yeah. The Paradise, Hannah. Right. So Hannah revealed that her and Pilot Pete actually did it in the windmill four times, not two. Is that not a big deal? or should we be concerned?

I don't know that that needed to be divulged on TV. Like, what was the point of saying that out loud? Yeah. Wow. So she like... What depends on if you're from the Midwest or not? I'm just saying like it depends on your liberal or conservative. Right.

So if you're liberal like in Seattle or whatever, like, no, like you're like, really? Oh, okay. Yeah. But think about Bob Guinea who lives here in Seattle. Like there were rumors about he's a bachelor before me. Right. They slept with all these different girls. And he's like, sweet.

Yeah. Are you guys jealous or what? I just don't know that that's something you need to share on national television. Just keep it yourself. Right. It was a very like, when she did it, I was like, oh, my. It was just interesting to see how the public reacted because it's kind of a touchy thing. Well, you know, his pilot Pete, I'm all on team pilot Pete.

And I'd love to see him as a bachelor. But it was interesting to see his family kind of celebrate it. Like, my mom would be mortified and run. And I think, I think there's a different dichotomy because she didn't end up engaged. Right. Right. I think if her and Jed worked out, it would have been looked at through a different light. But because she didn't, she had her heartbroken. People are like, you know what, screw it. Like go out, like have fun. We like Pete. We like you. But times have changed.

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Yeah, I mean, yeah. And they may have just drawn eyeballs and let people boo them or nobody knows. That's true. And maybe the I heart, like, it's the same thing. Like maybe this whole, the people are listening to this podcast or Bachelor fans. But like there's a whole bunch, like, if you talk to anybody else who doesn't watch The Bachelor, they don't know who we are. They don't care about any of this stuff. Right.

Right. And so maybe at the music at the music festival, it's like, whatever, Jed. I don't know. I'm shocked. I think people are going to boo him. Yeah. What, did you, did you Google it over there? Yeah, I'm trying to see.

I can't find anything, but I'm sure if you saw it, I'm sure it's true. I don't know. There's a huge world outside of this bachelor world. Okay. What about Tyler from Hannah's season of The Bacheloret begins dating Gigi Hadid days after grabbing a drink with

Hannah? Why? He's single. Yeah. Who cares? Go for it. If Gigi Haddeed wants to date you, go dater. It also, are they dating now? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It just shows that once you get out of the bubble, like, you see a lot more. There's 4 billion

other women out there and guys. They say that Wells Adams walked so Tyler could run he's the one that like opened the door for Batchel people dating actual celebrities so there you go I think it's I know I'm like great do you think

it sucks for Hannah though because she was just like Jed didn't work out then she went after Tyler and he's like actually Gigi yeah maybe some celebrity will ask her out that's what I think and she's going on dancing with stars yeah exactly she's doing okay her stars glowing still

Tanner got into a... Disappears someday. Real question. Tanner got into a Twitter feud with Demi after she... After what? After she... This is a typo in here. Forgive me.

Tanner got into a Twitter feud with Demi after saying that her and her girlfriend went on as a planned thing to get engaged. Do we forgive Tanner for that or does he need to just calm down? Okay. First of all, Jason probably has no idea who you're talking about. Tanner. Well, you know Tanner. Tanner and Jay.

Morning America with him, Tanner and Jade. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said it's no different than what Jed did to Hannah. So Demi came on Paradise, already with a girlfriend back home. Okay. And now. Who's Demi? She's a girl on Paradise.

Is she the one that was kind of bitchy? She just speaks her mind. I think she's right. Oh, Debbie's awesome. Oh, no, no, I think I know. The blonde girl. Yeah. Yeah.

And then now it's like her girlfriend came on the show. She left Derek. and now they're getting apparently engaged at the end. That's the rumor. What? Can I not say that? Yeah, they're together for sure. I'm just assuming they go.

So are we saying, is it a big deal that Tanner and Demi got in a fight? I mean, I love a good Twitter fight. I mean, you know, this is Twitter fight. I'm so long. I don't want to be it. You know what? This is not the right game to play with you guys. I don't know.

Jason doesn't watch. No, I love a good Twitter fight. Okay. Can you still have like? Oh, I got the best Twitter fight. No, don't even go. What? I can't.

You had a Twitter fight? He got it in a Twitter fight. Can I please tell the story? Yeah. This is the best story ever. Yes. Okay. And then I'll go.

Be careful what you say. I will be careful what I say, but this will get some controversy because I will, but I, can I please? That's fine. Okay. Okay. So we were at, this is Sean and Catherine Lowe's wedding. Okay. And like, again, I'm not, like, I don't know the reality TV world, even outside of The Bachelor.

But I do know that we're sitting in the lobby. I love this story. And Lisa Vanderpump walks in. And she was with Sean Lowe on Dancing with the Stars. And Molly loves that show. So Molly's like, oh, my God, I can't believe it's Lisa Vanderpump. Like, I'm so excited. I'm like, just go ask her for a picture or something.

Like, she's not going to say no. Yeah. She rejects Molly. She said no. And so I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe it. Like, so I literally, without even thinking, I just went on Twitter. I'm like, oh, M.G, Lisa Vanderpump just rejected Molly. And tagged her.

And tagged her. And so I dropped Molly off. I went out to lunch or something like that. Molly was just taking an app. And I come back and Molly's like, do you know what the fuck you started? I was like, what do you mean? She's like, all of Lisa Vanderpump's fans are pissed off and like her fans are pissed off of you.

Just destroying us. Okay. So that's that's step one. And then turns out we have signed seats at the wedding. And so it's, you guys are next to you. It's Molly, Jason, Lisa Vanderpump. Oh, and her husband and their little dog. Right.

And so we show up, we show up at the, and I. I was like, oh, Jesus, are you freaking kidding me? Yeah, what are the chances? And then I get down to the seats, and then Lisa Vanderpump just looks at me and goes, you're an asshole, right? Whatever. And her husband's holding the little dog and goes, you are an asshole. And then Molly looks at me and goes, you are an asshole.

I just was so panic. I was like, what happened? The world's turning on me again. What's going on? I don't want to be them to be mad at us while we're sitting with them. And it was actually like a real like, and like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Like it was like Molly obviously pushed me to the side and I sat on the, Molly sat next to the minute and ended up having an awesome night with him. Yeah.

Right. Like water under the bridge, but I was like, no freaking way. Everybody turned on me and all I was trying to do is protect my wife. How are you an asshole? Because she didn't want a picture from someone who supported her. That is bullshit. Somebody helping. That is the ultimate flip right there.

She worked you. Oh, my God. But Molly, Molly, like, was a big fan of her show. So they spent the whole night just hanging out and having a good time. Did you end up getting a picture? Tons. No, there we go. Molly Redemption, baby.

They did a big the best icebreaker. Like, lasered in. Like, if you try to get Molly's eye line between her and Lisa the whole night, you could not break. I think Desiree was sitting next to me at the wedding reception. Yeah. And the next morning, she's like, Molly, you didn't even talk to me all like that. Yeah. She was just so.

That's actually where we met Ari the first time, remember? Ari. He was in their wedding? Mm-hmm. He showed up. He was single. Jeff. Jeff.

Yeah. Yes. The two of them were like super single. They showed up with some random girls that weren't even. even invited to the wedding. Well, like supermodels. Yeah, of course. They were like 6-2.

Yeah. Of course they did. And Jeff home at a supermodel? Yeah, I did. Isn't he like 4 foot 11? Oh, yeah. She was way taller then. Oh, my gosh.

That's so funny. That shouldn't matter, but that's funny. We're going to play a game called The Last. The Last. So do you have your phone out because you might need to look at it for reference here? The last text message you sent was probably to me, but before that. It was to you or it was to Jason because we were driving separately, so I told him where to park. Okay.

That's not that exciting. Nope. The last time you guys got too drunk. In Ireland. Yeah. For sure. Like, we went there for a wedding. How was the hangover?

Was it bad? Not good. Okay. And we had to, like, get on a plane and travel to Scotland that day, not good. What? Did you drink the Guinness out there? Yeah. It actually tastes way better.

I know. It's weird. I know. we went to a bar that had cold Guinness. Oh. Like chilled, chill, chill, because normally it's kind of, it's not warm, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, way better. Real quick question. Isn't it a thing in Ireland, you're supposed to finish your Guinness in like four sips? You're supposed to take my gulps, I think. Because I remember Obama did it and everyone was like, he's just the man. He knows our culture. Like, you're supposed to take gulps of it, not sips, I think, for flavor.

I could be wrong. I don't know, but I love Guinness. I do. I'm like, I'm just a wine girl. And you can't say Irish car bombs, right? No, that's like a big thing. Oh, it is? It's like derogatory.

It was actually from like when the Protestants and the Catholics in Northern Ireland were at war. And there were actually people that would set off carbons. Yeah, you could not. That's not okay. Yeah, I had a buddy that asked her a carbone, which is a great drink, by the way. I love that. And he got like completely tore apart and thrown out the bars. Yeah.

I didn't know. Bad. Right. Okay. That's good to know. Yeah. And you never heard that in Ireland. The last time you guys hung out with people from the bachelor.

franchise. Oh, good question. Probably the reunion. Oh, when we went to the bachelor reunion. Yeah. That's exactly what it was. That was fun that you guys were there. I literally when I walked in got goosebumps. Yeah. Just like seeing all of you girls in one room. Yeah. And that'll never happen for The Bachelor. I know. It will never happen. Because there's so many guys who want nothing to do with the show anymore. Right. There's only two missing from Bachelor rights and one was on a family vacation and one doesn't have a good relationship with the franchise but it was I felt like I think it was in that moment that I realized I was the bachelorette yeah like I didn't it's everything's just kind of happened and it was like yeah going through it being in the mansion with all those girls I was

like I was one of the bachelorette I know it was so like there was only a few that I had not met at that point like I had never met Andy Dorfman you had no um Rachel I had never met and I think that was it I think was just the two of them that I had never met before yeah but it was It was fun. It was fun. I was a little nervous going into that, just being like, what is this going to be like? It was, I didn't want to leave. Yeah, I was texting with Jillian before I was like, good luck.

There's a lot of really big personalities in one room. That's what I'll see how this goes. That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, that is a lot of big personalities in one room. And like, it was honestly just so great to see everybody. And everyone was just like having the best conversations. And everyone was like, I don't know, just like championing the other person. And I'm like, what are you doing?

How could I help? Like, it was cool. Yeah. It's like a bunch of powerful women in one room. Okay. The last time you spoke to Chris Harrison. Probably when we went back, when we went back for Ari's after the final rose. This is the last time we saw him.

Yeah. We sent birthday, did a birthday video for him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The last awkward encounter you've had with a fan. Oh. Gosh.

Well, I think it's more like the other day we were trying to FaceTime Riley while we were in Ireland and someone came up to take a picture and we're like, like we're talking to our daughter right now. Oh my gosh. You do it anyway, right? Like my moment with Lisa and vapor pump scarred me for life. I will never say no to someone who wants a photo. I'm trying to think if I've ever said no to. I think I've said no to someone maybe twice in my life. Yeah.

There had to have been a reason. Like one time I was in a grocery store and I had had a hair treatment in. And I was like, I really, I was going to any news, but I said I'd really prefer if I didn't. She was like, no, it's okay. Yeah. But I felt really guilty about it like the rest of the day. Yeah. Okay.

And then the last date night you guys went on. Hmm. The last date night. Maybe just like all of Ireland, because we had no kids. That was our first trip without kids since before Riley was born. Did you guys, like, refall in love? No. I was actually more concerned we were going to get really sick of each other by the end of the trip

because we never spend that much a long time. together. That's so funny. But we survived. We're good. That's like what is your ideal date? That's awesome. What is your ideal date night?

I just love like happy hour. It makes me so happy. Happy hour makes me the happiest I've ever been. Like I love sitting on a patio when it's sunny outside, having a cold glass of wine and just the two of us just chilling. It's the best. You know, not having to rush home to get to a babysitter or just like, I don't know, just like the calm. Yeah. That's amazing.

You know? That sounds ideal to me. Just a glass of wine on a patio. Like, I don't need to be wined and dined at all. Like, I don't need to go to a fancy restaurant. Like, I don't need to get all dressed up. Just like having that sense of, like, peace. Simplicity is just, you can't beat it.

I agree. I agree. The last TV show, you binged together. Well, actually, on the plane, we both binge true detective. Oh, is it good? Which I had never seen. It was really good. We are really into Handmaid's Tale.

Oh, so it's, we love. It's terrifying, but it's such a good show. No. Stranger Things we watch. Of course. That's probably it. I think our favorite show we've ever watched together is Dexter. I'm like obsessed with Dexter.

I'm like weird that I love like murder mysteries. I love murder mystery. I'm not a sick mind. I like drillers. Okay. My perfect date night, let's like make popcorn and drinks and sit in bed and watch Dateline. I'm into that too.

I'm into that too. Have you ever seen Ozark or no? No. We do need to watch that. That is such a good one. You need to binge that. Canel, do agree with this. I think.

if I could define Kelowna in one word, it would be Ozarks. Like the water and the landscape, like how it looks. No, no, not the, you know, Mexican cartel, drunk dealing, money laundering. Although the boat situation, that's crazy. What boat situation? Rob's boat. Oh, yeah. Caitlin's stepdad literally bought a boat for 102 grand and for two, three years was Fugazied

and never got his boat. And then when he reported it, that same day, 20 people reported it, the cops went in, the news went in, the day he reported it. It was a big Ponzi ski. No, it was crazy. Did you ever get his money back? No. Never.

Oh my God. That's awful. It's crazy. And what the guy did was he gave him the boat, but he gave him the boat damaged. So of course, Rob was like, you need to go return that boat. And they went to return it, and he never got it back from him. And that was part of the plan, like give it to him damaged. No.

Now insurance has an issue because he actually gave it to them. So it's like this crazy thing. Oh, that breaks my heart. Isn't that awful? So it is like the Ozarks. wait a second and when rob went like rob went to his door and when rob went to his door the guy came out and rob said from a distance like 50 yards away there's this dude that was like he said looked like like a hell's angel almost like a six foot nine monster and he's like uh oh i better just get out of here like the police station like i don't know and that place got like shut down

and now whatever i don't know what's going to happen to that guy but that boat is now in victoria somewhere oh my gosh Yeah, the boat. They don't know where the boat is. Oh, that's so sad. Bad. I know. Oh, God. And I'm, like, scared talking about it. I'm like, am I going to get murdered? Yeah. I know.

We're calling them out on a podcast. No. No, it's fascinating. I said, hell's angels. Wait, I love you. I love them. I support everything. I'm scared. I'm scared. They do great things. They do. Don't think you're getting out of confessing something to me. I feel like I have. I feel like people are going to listen to this and be like, wow, she does not like him. She said she didn't love my show. She was worried they were going to get some.

sick of each other on their trip no we're just like an old married couple yeah you know it's been 10 years 10 years is crazy it is crazy like I don't really even remember being on TV yeah you know it feels so well even for me I don't remember a lot of well I was blackout half the time but um but like even for me just that experience is kind of a whole like I'm I've blacked it out almost yeah yeah it's weird to think that we did it too you know sometimes when people randomly are like oh how did you guys meet and they don't know. I'm like, oh, God, what do I tell them? Here we go.

Sometimes I'm like, oh, we just new friends, like a lie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just I don't want to get into it. I would be the same way. Yeah, because that's like when people ask me on a plane, oh, so what do you do? I'm like, I don't want it to go. Every time I cross the border because I have an entertainment visa and I live in Nashville. So they're like, oh, are you a country singer?

I'm like, yep. Yes, yes, I am trying to be. Except so if one time somebody from Canada is, he is a singer and he is a singer and he in Nashville, and the border made him prove it. No, he had to sing at the border. What would you sing? If they made you do that. Oh, that's a good question.

You're like, oh, I'm a struggling artist trying to make it. I would sing one of my own songs. There you go. Yeah. An original. But I don't know anything happened to you on the show that was like super embarrassing or No, it's funny. The show is so different now than when we were on it.

Like, aside from our finale, there was no drama. Like, no drama. Everyone got along. Yes. Did they make something that happened on? Like, what was you? No, I honestly cannot think of one crazy dramatic moment on our season. What?

Yeah, it was, it was just, it was the simple life then. It was just people going on the show to fall in love or, you know, like, no one was going on to be famous or become, you know, like it wasn't like that. We didn't either. Our season, we didn't have any drama other than Jordan. There was, but Jordan is great. We all loved them. Yeah, but that was, he was, it was dramatic. He made, yeah, I guess.

I don't know. no we didn't have anyone crazy on our season not a single now the show like hannah season was nuts yeah paradise is crazy like shit somebody just got in a fight on the beach a real fight a real fight jordan dropped that dude i feel like i need to drop jordan's a scrapper man this man of all utilities he's got it all this this season in paradise is i don't know it's i'm into it i just have such a heart like when we were back for um arre's after the final rose and all of the girls from his season they were there in the audience right to like I don't know they always have people come back right and so after the show I was so excited to me because I'd watched that

season so I was so excited to go up and meet these girls and just be like oh my gosh it's so they treated me like dirt oh oh god uh you don't have to name name yeah I mean unless I can look the girls that were there for his his at Ari's reunion Ari's after the final rose they looked at me like I was just a nobody and I'm sitting there like you guys we were on the same show like we're in this family together like why do you think you're better than me like no I just stand that that's not cool I can't stand when people get off the show and if I've been there before shame on me I hope not but just think they're like like at a list like they're unstop like no we were on a reality show that's it right no we're not we're not

actors we're not musicians we're not that cool next year there's going to be a new person there's going to be the new Jason there's a new Molly new Caitlin new Hannaby it's how it goes And if you can't keep that in check, it's going to be just such a mental fall off because it's just new people every year. And we're just one piece in the puzzle. Yeah, if you can't be humble through that or like know where you came from, it's going to be a tough, tough journey for you. You know, it's so hard to watch the show now and like, I bet. Just like, it's just changed so much. It's changed so much.

It really is not. I don't think about love at all anymore. No. It's all about going on Instagram. Instagram and making money, which is fine. Okay, that's your intent. But that's not, that wasn't the show I went on. Right, you know.

And that shows in your relationship. And it's wild how that has like just every year just keeps in. And it's funny like with Colton season and like Hannah, G went on, she was already Instagram famous before she went on the show. Colton was the same way. Colton was the same. Tyler was a big time. He was like a really successful model before the show.

Yeah. Yeah. We are. Yeah, we know. He's now dating another successful model. And bottle. I mean, geez. I know. That's crazy. Okay, well, is there anything that we missed that you wanted to talk about? No. We're just, no. I mean, it's funny that you even want to talk. Like, we're so far removed from it. We're not that cool. Yeah, you are. I love you guys. We live our normal life. We're just focused on parents and sports and kids and. That's what I can't wait to have. Yeah. That's what it's the best. That is what it's all about. And that's, you guys are. You guys are.

just so cute and funny and fun. You're a good time. Well, thanks. And are you still on the radio every morning? I am. I still do the radio. You love it, right? I love it.

I love it. It doesn't. So I guess technically I got a job out of going on the bachelor. Had I not been on the Bachelor, I never would have gotten this radio job. Right. But I don't identify myself as Molly from The Bachelor. No. It's Molly Meznik from Kiss FM.

Right. You know, like, and that's how people in town know me. And sometimes they know I was on the Bachelor and sometimes they don't. Right. So it's fun. Like, Ty, he's 14 now. Yeah. And people are always like, so does he get it?

Does he know? Has he watched? He has not watched our season. He hasn't. Okay. He won't, a couple years ago, he asked. And he will actually, if I'm watching The Bachelor, he'll sit down with me and watch it because he thinks it's kind of interesting, but he'll use it.

Like, the girls love him. Oh, he'll like talk about that. Because he was on the Bachelor. That's amazing. Like his photography project last year, they had to do a thing like, what's your name? Where do you live? And like, what's a fun fact? And his fun fact.

act is always I was on The Bachelor. That is so funny. I think about that. Like I'm like, our kids won't, are they going to go on like Google and like read these crazy ass stories about us? And like,

remember that one, the dry humping story? Oh, and like, yeah, we're screwed. Oh, we're screwed.

You got to have more things happen to so that stuff gets buried. Yeah. How do we bury that stuff? Yeah, that might be buried by the time we have kids though. Oh, boy. Well, and by the time they know what Google is.

It's all out there. Twitter. I know. I think about that all the time. I'm like, gosh, my kids are going to Google me. Oh, they. Yeah, not good. Oh, boy. Well, our driver's here because we have to go to the airport and catch a flight. But, I mean, it's so fun. I love doing podcasts like this sometimes, too, because I'm like, I'm getting work done and I also get to catch up with friends. Yeah, I know. It is. It's great. And although we didn't have wine or coffee. We had a good time. We had a good time. Thank you so much. Thanks for having us. Of course. It's so good to see you guys. Wait, how do people listen to you on the radio? Is it just Seattle? It's just Seattle, but you can listen on the IHeart radio app. Okay. Yeah. And then Jason has a real estate business, right? Yes. You need a house. You need a house in Seattle.

Yeah. This real estate market out here is flying. I love it. Okay. I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. Sponsors for this week's Off the Vine are Honey. Get Honey for free at joinhoney.com slash Vine. Third Love, go to thirdlove.com slash Vine to now find your perfect fitting bra and blue apron. Get 60. dollars off when you visit blue apron.com slash off the vine thanks for listening to off the vine with katelyn briscoe get new episodes every tuesday exclusively on podcast one dot com the podcast one app and subscribe on apple podcasts who's not with o tv