Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Jessica Graf and Cody Nickson

Episode Date: May 15, 2018

Kaitlyn is once again joined by special co-host Lo to chat with Big Brother and Amazing race stars Jess and Cody. Join in as they talk about finding lasting love on reality TV, being genuine fans of one another's seasons, and their relationships with the producers while filming. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Tabby topics. On filtered advice and wine. Lots of wine. Get ready to shake things up. Here's Caitlin. Okay, here we go. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow,

co-hosting for the second time, my little co-pilot, as Cody called you my hype man. I love that. Yeah, that's a good one. You're my hype man. The Sophie to your grace. Or no, I'm the Sophie to your Grace.

Sophia. No, Sophie. I don't know. I'm drunk. No, I'm not. Oh, my tops falling down. It's getting weird. Always excited to have big brother people on my podcast.

But today I get two. Two for one. Did I already introduce you? No, you did not. Lowe is in the house again. Lowe is my co-host. And I am co-hosting today with Caitlin. Yes, because this will air over two weeks, but really we did two in one day.

So we just need to reintroduce you for people who forget about you because you're not very memorable. Oh. So you didn't win Big Brother, but you fell in love. And that's winning in my books. Oh, my gosh. How many people say that to you when they introduce you? Do they say, you didn't win Big Brother, but you fell in love, so that's winning. We get more so people say we're surprised you guys are still together.

Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. Like clockwork. Hi, my name's so-and-so. I'm surprised you guys are still together. It's Jess and Cody from Big Brother and the amazing race. I bet that's the question that you get only because I came off a reality show where I met somebody and fell in love and that was like everybody's like still to this day we'll go through the airport and people are like oh my gosh you guys are still together and I'm like no just this is awkward but we're traveling together like not so people just like can't believe that you can find love on reality television I mean I wouldn't have believed it like a year ago yeah that's true I'm still I'm still new to it's still it's crazy it hasn't even been a year yet but it hasn't been a year no I guess not. Not until June?

June. Yeah, June. Okay, wait. So, who's telling me this? Oh, Mark and Elena said that you guys are actually in the house for a few days before? Like a week. A week? Yeah, like a whole week before live feeds turn on.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Okay, so that's two weeks or one? It's like a week and a half. That's when everyone goes nuts. Okay. Yeah. That's, I remember you guys. Oh, God, I always feel like such a creep doing this.

because... Be creepy. I want to hear it. I'm so creepy because obviously everybody that listens to my podcast knows I'm a big brother fan and knows that I watch Live Feeds. But how did you get into it? My mom. Okay. Yeah. My dad. Yeah. Did you watch the show before you went on it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I knew that. I wasn't a live feed nerd, but Jess is. I'm a live feed nerd now because once I got evicted, he was in the house for a week. Yeah.

So I was like, stalker girlfriend. I would have done the same thing. You have no idea. Slept with my laptop open. Of course. No one in like the group chat thought that it was actually me. They thought it was just like some impersonator. Tell me you didn't read the comments coming in on the live feeds.

I started. They are nuts. But I started my own little Jody's chat room. So like only the lovers could enter and not they'd be. You could have that. Wait. How did you control that? CDS gave me like, I guess, well, first of all, I still have to pay for my live feeds.

I get no extra privileges, but they gave me like a highlighted name so people knew I was like verified. It was like the CBS all access blue check mark kind of thing. Oh, that's cool. And then I started my own little group chat and I could like invite people and kick them out. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it's a legit thing. Oh, that is. Oh, I didn't even know that was a thing. I have to get re-verified every season and I am hoping that they give it back to me. They will. They have to, you little baby legend. I'm such a great. But Sean and I would find ourselves like pouring cereal with you guys and like, what are they doing? Are they awake yet? And then I'm like, we got to stop. Like, I actually called and canceled my subscription because I was like, I'm like, I need to do something better with my time. Like if my boyfriend, fiancee now, was doing that. I'd be stalking it every second of every day. I wouldn't, I don't even know if I'd sleep. I'd have that laptop up. I was going to say something so inappropriate. Caitlin, stop. No, I've probably been there. So like, you don't have to finish the sentence. Okay. I know. Cool. Cool.

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right on in the amazing race and then uh so we've been together off the show like there's every waking moment there's not there's not a single moment like we're not with each other yeah uh and all i wanted to do was surprise her and it was impossible to do i'm telling you if i set well okay i had i had the ring design yeah and then i had it coming in on a certain date yeah and to even like surprise her with that or try and get the ring before like she knew yeah i had to set my alarm and even setting my alarm, she's like, why would you do that? He tested it the night before, and you know that alarm noise, and I heard it, and I was like, why are you

setting an alarm? Do we have to be somewhere? Like, everything about our day, like, we know everything about each other's day, so it's just impossible to surprise her. One thing that is a part of our routine, though, is running up Runyon Canyon here at L.A. So it's just a thing we do every week. And she decided to go up running that day. And I was like, I'm just going to stay back at the apartment, whatever. And I

grabbed the ring, and I ran the parallel streets, got ahead of her, ran up the mountain. And then as she was walking up there. Yeah, that is so sweet. You were at the top of the mountain. I thought he was back home. And then I look up and he's just there. Oh, my gosh. That like reminds me this is, I don't know why this reminds you that, but like

of Anchorman and he's like, I just want to scream it from the top of a mountain, but I can't. I only had a newsroom. But you You did. You confess your love on top of a mountain. It was great. That's so romantic. And you did not see it coming.

You were surprised? No. And actually, I was like, the next day was Valentine's Day. So we got engaged on February 13th. And I was like, maybe it might happen on Valentine's Day. Because I'm sure you've talked about obviously wanting to be. Yeah. I made him take me inside of a jewelry store one day to get my ringers.

Oh, perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I had plenty of hints to get the design right. Yeah. Oh, well, that's good. Instagram helped. Yeah, see, and I was like the opposite.

They're like, what kind of ring do you want? I'm like, oh, I don't, they're like cushioned this. I'm like, I don't even know what that means. Like, I don't know anything. You weren't specific, like with the cut, band. Didn't even know the terms. I didn't know anything. I was like, I don't know.

I don't know. I just let Sean pick it out because I don't know anything. It's a Neil Lane, right? It is. Yeah. Neil Lane hooks it up. Let me see. It's still so shiny.

Is that a wedding band? No. But sometimes I like to tease people. I just like the look of when it's, We saw your wedding dress the other day. Oh, yeah. Did you think I got there? When you put the mail on your story, I legit was, like, freaking out.

I think I even texted Vanessa, and I was like, is Caitlin getting married right now? Oh, yeah, because Vanessa texts me. Wait, how are you? Oh, I'm the reason for that. How are you guys friends with Vanessa? We have the same Lori. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, the same, like, PR or whatever.

Yeah. Okay, yeah, because we share a Lori. Because Vanessa, for everybody that doesn't know what. I'm talking about Grimaldi, she was on the podcast and she told probably the funniest confession I've ever had on the podcast. She pooped a little, smelt it throughout her day on her pants. Oh, wow. I was like, thank you for going there because those are the kind of confessions I like. And then the next day, she was like, I'm a little worried about my confession.

I'm like, let me tell you the crowd, the audience that listens to Off the Vine is going to love it. These are your people. These are the, and she was like, you know, I've had so many people reach out and say they had similar stories. She's an advocate now for like people who are in your pants. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, she was like really happy that she got to share that moment with some people and that other people could open up about the same kind of. It was so funny though. But yeah, I was like, how did you?

Okay, so you guys met because you had the same. That was it. Well, I mean, I've been a fan of the show. So I had to explain to Jessica who she was. Super fan. And then once she got the validation from me that she was good to go, then we met up with her. Okay, because I was going to say, I don't feel too creepy being a super fan, a big brother, because I heard you were a fan of The Bachelor. Oh, yeah, every season.

Really? It's insane. He knows everything about The Bachelor. I had never watched The Bachelor before. You think you're invested in our relationship. I've been watching you guys. Not like Instagram after anything like that. I didn't have social media for, well, since I'll tell Big Brother, but...

I know, because I remember you guys being in the backyard or, you know, you're in the kitchen and you're like, what is Instagram going to be like after this? And I was like, he doesn't know what's coming. She still schools me through it. Really? Well, I think it's so cute that you only follow her on Instagram. I know. If it ever changes, though, my heart would just, like, be shattered. That's, like, so Kanye and Kim of you guys, Kanye only follows Kim.

Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Speaking of him this week. Oh. He is, guys, though, is he, is Kanye a genius or is he losing his mind? That is like... I think it's a little bit of both.

Yeah, I'm on your side. Again, like, just... Yeah, you guys are on the same page. Sharing, one mind. Yeah. He's kind of a marketing genius. Like, your name's being talked about more than anybody this week, so... Trump is a marketing genius.

Same. Both of that. Yeah, exactly. They're being talked about... I mean, they're at this point, tweeting about each other. So, I mean, when the two worlds unite, yeah. And it's like, what, dragon's spirits?

It's like two verified people comment on each other's profiles. Yes. Then they get each other's followers, right? Yeah. Look at him with the Instagram lingo. I'm so proud. I'm figuring it out. You are figuring it out.

Two blue check marks. But I will tell you, I didn't want to follow you because I'm like, oh, he's not going to follow me back. Oh, is that way? So I was like, I said you earlier, I was like, Caitlin followed me. That's my, that'll be my. My confession for you. I was like, I'm not going to follow him.

He's not, because you won't follow me back. So I was like, I'll just stop you. I just want to hit the follow button. It's a very strange world. It is a strange world. The whole social media, but is it what you could ever, like, did you expect this after the show? But also you guys went on Amazing Race, so it was like even... Well, I guess I experienced.

expect a lot more hate. Really? It's been nothing about support, I guess. People love you guys. It's really strange. It's so sweet, though, because I think, here's my theory. I think you guys are just so honestly yourselves, and people, whether you think they're going to like, if you are just yourself, I feel like people are attracted to that, and it

might take them a while to warm up, but eventually they're going to just like you because you're like, oh, you're not putting anything on. You're just who you are. And, I mean, Sean from the beginning was like, that guy is. so loyal like well that's that's how I felt about the way Sean was yes he talked about this yeah over he gave me the lowdown on your relationship yeah Sean wasn't this like over the top character at all like he was just like the chill dude and then I felt like the editor try to make him into like the aggressive dude that oh my god he is gonna love you it's like the other guy

and they really try to like pound that home but they couldn't nail it to them like as much as they try to edit this guy like they couldn't nail it so true that's so true that's It was awesome. Yeah. His vibe was so chill. That is actually. And he even confronted the other guy and like, I mean, just sent it home. Yeah, because he's like, let's just deal with us.

Like, let's sit down and let's, fine, let's do this. That's so funny that you say that because not a lot of people could see that. And some people were like, oh, he's so jealous. And I'm like, no, he's not. He even proved it, like face to face. He's just, yes, he's just a loyal, good person with a good heart who is just like overwhelmed by the situation because who wouldn't. be were two people that are in love and like it was just like I I say this all the time

that I don't know if I could have done it the other way around even though I was in I was on the bachelor but I didn't have spoiler alert feelings as deep as I should have for the bachelor like I was kind of like do I even like this guy like I think I do I don't know it's like a weird situation like I'm they kept like telling me like I remember sitting in a room for like I'm not exaggerating I think it was six hours of them just trying to be like you love him really yes and so I'd be like at the end of like the fifth hour I was like oh if I say I love him I can go and then I was like okay maybe you're right you know I think I love him like it was just so bizarre but so for us to have actually like those strong strong feelings

right off the bat like right when he got a little immol I was like this is going to be hard I was rooting for him oh he's gonna love that I can like see the love pouring out of you and I'm just like, okay, now I want to watch their season. It was a fun season to watch, too, just because she was a bit absurd. You're such a guy's girl is what I say about you. Like, I didn't watch your season.

He turned me into a Bachelor fan. We became friends with Vanessa, had to watch Vanessa season just so I could laugh at her. Of course. And then we watched Ari season, because that's the newest one out. Yeah. But I've stalked you on Instagram. I've stalked Sean on Instagram. Your Instagram

stories make me feel like I know you. I'm going to make you re-watch it with me. Yeah, the reason they picked her is because all the other bachelorette's were considerably sweet. And, well, not. No, I know what you mean. No, no, I'm not offended. She stoutly. She came out of the limo telling Chris to plow her fucking field.

Yeah. Oh, that was you. Yeah. Wait, what? You don't know this? No. It was the very first thing she said to Chris. He was a farmer.

Yeah. And you go ahead and see it out. I like hearing it from like somebody else's perspective. The thing was, so Chris Soles was The Bachelor and he was a farmer. And so I'm like thinking I don't get TV. So I'm like, well, they're not going to air me saying that. So I get out of the limo. And obviously the producers come around and they're like, what are you going to say to him out of the limo?

I'm like, I was thinking about a joke and making it like really offside because if he doesn't like my sense of humor right away, like I don't want to be there anyways. So I get out of the limo and I'm like, so I don't know much. about you. Like, I know your name's Chris and I know you're a farmer. So, uh, you can plow the f*** out of my field any day. And his face. With the bleep and everything. You can tell exactly what she just said. Oh, yeah. And it was like one of those things that made, like, people cringed because they're not used to that kind of stuff happening on the show. Like, everybody's usually like, really sweet. And like, and I remember it was on Ellen. And Ellen's like, I have a tip. Like, here's what not to do out of the limo. And she showed my part. And I was

Like, oh, and then it was on, like, Good Morning America, and they showed a clip, and everybody on the panel of Good Morning America went like this. Oh, like, cringed and just was like, oh, no, no, no. But it was, I was like, you know what? And see what happens if you were to ever listen to, like, the views of the outside. You would never be in the position. No. That's what I was just thinking. It's so true.

The amount of times people give unsolicited advice about what they think you should have done. It's like, well, I mean, everything I did do got me to love my life in a military. million dollars. So what the hell could you do for me? Amen. It's so true that even like me going on the bachelor, one of my best friends, I don't think she has time to listen to this podcast. So she, even if we've had this conversation, but she was like, are you really going to miss my wedding to go on the 19th season of The Bachelor? And I was like, oh my gosh, am I like that? Is that terrible? But I just had something inside me telling me to go. And so I committed to going on the show. And it was like, I was like, this might, like, end a good friendship.

Am I doing the wrong thing? A hurricane hit in Mexico, and she had to reschedule her wedding, and it happened to be in between the time that I came off the bachelor and was the bachelorette. And if I would have been like, you know, if I would have been like, you know, I should be at the wedding and not listen to my gut. Right. I wouldn't be here right now.

That's turbine intervention right there. That's crazy. Yeah. So it was, it's true, though. Just like, you know, you've got to take chances and do things that some people might tell you not to do because look where it can get you. Absolutely. It always sounds just completely insane to go on a TV show. Like you're throwing all of your eggs into one basket and it's either going to work or it's not. Yeah. I can't imagine. High risk. Hiro Lord. Yeah. I can't imagine just

listening to some of the people in my life and not having gone on it or like waiting for the quote unquote right opportunity to do something like that. It's never the right time. And it goes back to you saying you just have to be yourself and eventually you might be off-putting at first but people fall in love with you and your thing might have been off-putting to some people at first. A lot of people.

But look at where you are known. I think it's great. Yeah, it was really funny because I honestly did not think they would air it until I saw the promos for the show and I was like uh-oh. But it's true. And did you guys like when you went on, were you like, hey, if someone's there, there? Or were you like, no, money?

Both of us that showmances were essentially dumb. And it was like, boom. Like day four, inseparable. Did it take that long? Did it take that long? Aw. It was really sweet to watch.

He started it. Yeah, he started it. But it was really sweet to watch just because, I mean, Lowe doesn't know what we're talking about right now because he didn't watch. So he's just here for the wine. No, but I love hearing about it. He's nodding kindly.

Yeah. Yeah. But it was sweet to watch just because I love. love when people, I mean, if it was just some little, like, silly thing, okay, fine, but you guys, you could tell that you had, like, that connection where it was like, you put money aside and you were like, I'm going to do whatever for you. Like, you guys always had each other's back so much that it was like, I just found myself rooting for you, even though I was like, Cody is not going to make it for because you are so loyal and a good person and smart. Not that you aren't

just, but I was just, like, right off the bat, I'm like, oh, I'm like. oh, man, because everything you guys were doing was just so good that I'm like, there's, you know, everyone's going to turn on you. I have a question because I had Paul on the podcast. And then I was like, I'll just, I'll like Big Brother, so I'll have anyone on. But I was like, oh, man, what was going through your freaking mind watching that from home? Because you saw through everything, Cody. You saw, we were like, oh my gosh, Cody's the only one that gets it.

But you're having to watch this from home without being able to be there to say like, was it so frustrating to just sit back and not be able to say anything? You know, I tweeted. There was a specific point in time where I tweeted out that everyone in the house was such followers that it was kind of a mistake for Paul to separate Cody and put him in the jury house because they need to follow somebody. Yeah. And if Paul's not in the jury house, the only other person that has leadership capabilities

is Cody. Yeah. So he could literally manipulate any of those people to vote whichever way he wanted to. And I was completely right. He took the leadership role, and he manipulated everyone. I didn't manipulate it. Yes, yes, you did. They went from being like, I'm, Paul's still going to get my vote.

He played a fantastic game to just following in his footsteps. Like, Cody set the tone for it. I didn't manipulate anybody. I made natural born leader. I made free thinking, grown adults, think for themselves, and vote the proper way. Yes. You're being way too kind. to yourself

yeah because you're not like a malicious person but that's I think what we loved so much about like you guys are both in our pools we did pools but we just are you lost

I know but our heart was in the right place we were rooting for love so really did we win oh my gosh I'm so lame what was my next thing I was going to say something

about being in the I've lost it this is what I do remember when I'm like I already repeated myself all the time. You just edit it out, right? I didn't. Or I don't. People just kind of know

it's a shit show over here, so they kind of like it. Keeps it raw, you know? So, wait, did you guys actually meet on the show? Yeah, first time. Oh, wow. Okay, so I thought pre-existing couple and you go on together and stay strong. No. No, they met on the show. That's amazing.

Yeah, June 21st. I don't remember. Inseparable. He started rubbing my hand on the hammock, and I knew it was on from there. Oh, yeah. Game on. I saw her and I knew it was out of it. I love that. Yeah, so sweet.

Did you just feel like when you're laying on those hammocks, were you like, everybody's watching? There were, like, eight of us on the hammock that day. We, like, piled on, and I was laying down, and he laid down across my stomach, and my hand was, like, draped over so that it was, like, on his chest or something. And, like, he started, like, very gently rubbing my hand.

hand and I was like, yeah, you're like, here we go, here we go. I actually did everything I could to, like, avoid her until that moment. Really? Because you knew. If we were in a room together, I ran away, like, a child. I did notice that. There was actually a point in time that he made fun of me for, because after he won HOH, I came up to that HOH room and I was like, I just want to make sure, like, I don't have anything to worry about. You're not going to nominate me or anything? And he was like, are you kidding me? I was almost offended. It might have been the first time I've ever been offended.

Oh, that's so funny. Yeah, because you're like, I don't know, because you were running away. Aw, you couldn't do it for long. That's so romantic. And then you guys went on to, oh, no, that's what I want to say. I remember it all came back. You won America's favorite player, and your reactions are so funny, just because you don't see things coming.

I don't know if you just seem like a humble guy. And so when, like, I don't, you obviously did not see it coming. people were going to vote for you, but it was so funny because we'd watch you in the jury house and it was like, I mean, you just weren't having any of it. And usually they had to get production out there. They did. Yeah. To try and be like, you got to show up or something. Essentially. Yeah. Well, okay. So my amazing, my since Amazing Race was so much closer to Big Brother and everything, like I literally had five days. They essentially came out there and said, hey, we're getting this together for you, could you give us more?

Oh, really? Essentially, a producer would ask me a question and I would say, I don't care. God, I love that. And you'd say something else about somebody and I'd be like, yeah, he's a pussy. Yeah. Like, I didn't care. Yeah. I was so pissed off at that moment because, yeah, I mean, you've got to realize they intentionally split me and Jessica.

Of course. So I'm five weeks without her. I'm pissed off. I'm stuck in this house. It's like a little prison. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So.

And you guys had. Where's the prison located? Strange cat. Where is this? I apparently changes every year. Oh, really? Yeah. But it's on like a lot, isn't it? No.

It was just a mansion. Somebody's, somebody's house that they run out. They like Airbnb or something. I mean, I wouldn't know. I was never there. Oh, my gosh. Sorry. I was thinking about the actual Big Brother house, not the jury house.

That's on the studio. But it was just, yeah, it was so funny to watch just because I was wondering of what producers would say to you if they, like, loved that you weren't giving anything or if they were like, come on. One of them, I really liked, and I said, all right, if I'm going to give anybody something, it's going to be this producer. He's the only one I'll talk to him, and they stuck it that way. Yeah, because then they probably put you with him all the time. Because what they try to do is they try to switch up producers to see which one could work with me. Of course.

And they gave me just the absolute worst one ever. Oh, no. And I'm like, I will never talk to that guy. Yeah. Because he thinks he's going to crack the code, like, oh. And they try and, like, get in your head and on your level. So then they speak to you as if you're a child. Yes.

There's, no. And it just pisses you off even more. I can feel your pain because there's so many times that, Sean and I've talked about this all the time where they're just like, I'm like, how stupid do you think I am? Like, you're talking to me like I'm not Caitlin. Like, and they'll sit you down and go, and they'll like get tears in their eyes. Or they'll play a song. They used to play songs for me that they would know.

Like in the arms of an angel stare at that. Exactly. That's the worst one. me pictures of puppies and play arms of an angel. But they would do things to like try and then they'd give me that look like, it's okay. You can tell. And yeah.

And they would do and like punish me for certain things and then talk to me like a child and like I got in so much trouble for telling Sean I loved him. They acted like I'd just murdered somebody and like just the way they talked. I'm like, oh did you tell him you loved him on your season? Yeah. At the very end. Do they show it?

No. They could edit out. Oh, okay. We weren't even on camera. It was like we Yeah, we begged for, like, 30 seconds off camera, and then we were miced up still, and I got yelled at, like, I mean, ripped apart. But, yeah, I was wondering how much producers had, like, even in the, in the house, like, when you're going to the diary room, are producers on the other side, like, kind of, like, trying to talk you into certain things or certain ways of thinking. Well, it's a camera. Like, you're not, there's nobody. Right, like, you can't see the person. It's just a camera.

But they're talking to you, right? You can hear them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you can hear. Yeah, okay. But, I don't know. They'll keep you up all night if they don't. get what they want.

Yeah, six hours. If somebody allows themselves to be produced, they'll be produced. If not, then they're not going to force you. Wait,

yes, they did. That one night where they just kept calling me, calling me, like they will break you. They will keep going into,

like I literally left there bawling my eyes out one day because him and I got into like our first fight and it just so happened to be on camera. Yeah. And it was really emotional and like the last thing I wanted to do

was talk to the diary room about it. You know what I mean? And, like, this was a big deal to me. Yeah. Like, all of my, it was, it was people think of you as a character on a show and you're dealing with real emotions and real feelings that it becomes a little bit difficult to navigate those. Yeah.

And I didn't know where we stood. So I didn't want to go talk to some producer whose face I couldn't even see, you know? Yeah. So I just kept refusing to go to the diary room and they kept calling me until, like, 5 a.m., and finally I went in there and they wouldn't let me leave. And I just sat there, like, couldn't answer any questions. and they finally let me go after hours and I left just wallowing my eyes out

because like they just... What being is they didn't get what they wanted. They didn't, but they tried to break me. Of course. But they did. I mean, they can't control what you say. People are still saying what they say, but... Of course.

For the most part, you can tell who they get to play up as a character and who's just themselves. Yeah. But I think that's why it's so crazy, but I think that's why, you know, you're in the jury house and you're barely saying anything. You're just like, I don't care, I don't care.

And that's how much people loved hearing you just be honest. And, like, you were, I mean. I walked out of one of the sessions just because they try to get one of them to try and say something. Yeah. You saw it. It was on the episode. He walked out of the jury.

Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, this is dumb. Yeah. But that's so funny because people clearly loved that because they're like, that's real. Like, you could tell that was just, you were over it and you weren't feeling it. And people loved it. They voted for you to be the favorite player.

like, that's crazy and amazing. We were like, wow! Yeah! We did this. No. I should have no. It's funny because I actually have voted in the past, but I didn't get around to it.

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most couples attack each other or blame each other or get in these problems and they don't work well together. And it brings out like kind of a nasty side of couples who you could like, but like it brings out a nasty side of people and you guys work so well together. And that actually had you win. They won amazing race. They won the million dollars. I'm telling you, as much is people try and like throw adversity at us like the more we're underdogs the more we're unstoppable like together you guys are just a force he's just the most patient human being with me like helps whenever i mess up which is every second of every single day like he never gets mad he's just so patient and to me like whenever he would do something that kind of like set us

back a little bit he also carried us the entire race so like how can i be justified to, like, get mad at him because he made a mistake, you know? No, that's... I mean, and is that how your relationship works outside of TV, too? Like, that's just who you guys are? We're pretty good together. We're not too bad. She got the thumbs up for me.

Like, we're good together, right? I still need that reassurance. Yeah, everyone does always. Please tell they work out. Babe, you tell her. You tell her. Yeah, I just said it. Like when I watched a little clip on YouTube when he was like, yeah, it's nice to do something with, like, someone you like, you're like, like, like, like, like, I love, love.

My soul died a little. But that's what I was laughing at, like, thinking about how you guys are just stuck in this, what you could, like, feel like a prison and you're stuck and you're isolated and you're with these people you don't want to be with. And then you're like, yeah, I didn't win the half million dollars. But suckers, I got the love of my life. And now I'm, like, traveling the world and made a million dollars with the person that I love. Like, that's amazing. I tell you what? I mean, the best way to really stick it to people that hate you is be, like, successful.

Absolutely. Yes. No, and that's exactly what you guys did. We didn't get any congratulations from, except for Mark and Elena, obviously. Yeah. But outside of that. Who is going to contact us? Like, after Big Brother, people are, our fans are always like, are you going to be friends with so-and-so after?

I haven't gotten any apologies from anybody. Like, people want to say it's just a game, but it's three months of your life. Like, if you hurt my feelings, you stab me in the back, like, I'm basing it as part of your character, and you want to continue some kind of relationship. How about an apology? It's such a cop-out anyways. If somebody does something horrible, like, they say it's on the game, but if they want to be friends with you, that's real life. Right. But everything horrible is just the game.

Well, what if the game was six months long? What if the game was a year long? What if it was two years long? At what point are you held accountable for the things that you do? So, that's a really great point. And that's, we, Sean and I obviously talk about being on something like Big Brother and we're like, we would be so bad because, like, I would feel, I mean, you've got to do what you got to do it sometimes, but like at the end of the day, that long of just backstabbing

and trying to keep up with lies and everything like, I just don't know how people can do it, like someone particular. Like, obviously I think of Paul's a character on a show. how he did what he did. And up to the very last second of that interview, I'm like, okay, at least just say something now. Like, own up to it. Yeah, like, yeah. And I think that's why

he lost the jury is because he didn't own up to anything that he said. He just continuously acted completely innocent. And at that point, everyone knew the game he was playing. Thank God. So, yeah. I mean, well, anyways. I mean, I look at shows now, too, and I pretty much say that I'm going to be horrible

at all of them. I know it's going to be horrible at your brother. Really? They put me on it anyway But then you won amazing race That's true This is a fact She's always trying to say that I should go on Survivor And I'm like, I would lose

You think so? Oh yeah I don't think so I could totally in your little army hat See you out there Your camouflage hat You literally look like a survivor If anyone could survive

It's Cody the Marine I truly think that I see you on a show like Survivor I think you both could do good on it What? What did you say? What? Oh, Semperfy There you go

military family background I shouldn't U.S. military I don't know you're a Canadian But it's more of a social game than it is a physical game I feel like Actually that's true And the better you are

The more chances you have Of getting kicked off Same you know Yeah That's right That's Survivor Because there's people Who have been on the show

Who Oh my gosh Speaking of Caleb He loves you guys So much Yeah Caleb and his wife are great Yeah

We went for lunch with them the other day They're just lovely people. Oh, because they live in Nashville. Well, you all live next to each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were really close. This is just me. Are you guys going to get married before me?

Do you have a date? No. Do you guys have a date? Yes. Oh, yeah. I, like, want one more than ever lately. I don't know what it is. So I'm like, what's the deal with your wedding?

I'm going to turn the interview around right now. I kind of want to go because I'm going to be styling it, obviously. Yeah, duh. I just need to know. You've been trying on dresses. is. Yeah, but here's the thing. Do you have a year? No. No, I bet Jimmy Kimmel, $2,000, I think. I can't remember how much money it was, but he was like, when are you going to get married? He had all this money, and I'm like, double or nothing. And he's like, okay, when? I'm like, this year. Well, that year's

past. And now I'm like, I don't even know a year. I don't know a date. We don't talk. What are you waiting for? Or are you going to go. Sean? You could, wait, what if you didn't get married and you just did like the Goldie Hahn situation? Like Kurt Russell, right? They're not married, but they've been together. Oh. I mean down with that, but the only thing is I'm Canadian, I need a green card.

Oh, yeah, well. When's your green card up? Because that, that, like, gets dates available. I have a work visa.

I have a work visa. It's for another two years. But I'm like, I want Sean to repurpose. So I want to, like, do what you guys did, like a surprise.

Like, I obviously knew it was coming. And he's like, oh, you were just like with a guy five minutes before when he was proposing. Like,

it's not really how I pictured this. I described that. yeah terrible yeah it's it was terrible because you're in a position where you're you're on the you are the bachelorette so you have to follow somewhat of the format of the show where you take you know so you're telling me they they told you you let them you let him propose right I did not want to yeah but I saw you because the second he got down on a knee like she grabbed him it was painful to watch it was painful to be there. It was more

painful to be there. Because I said, like, I've seen it happen on other seasons where they'll just say, like, they'll go to their room and be like, hey, this isn't working out. So that's what I wanted to do. Because I'm like, I'm not going to end there. Like, Caitlin, this is the format of the show. We're going back to, like, the roots of

what the show's format is. And here's what they said, which is, I'm sure what they said about the whole Ari and Becca thing. You need to give Nick that opportunity. to have America hear him out and you need to do this for if you're going to do this to him like at least let him say what he has to say like they made me things like I was like doing him a gracious favor and honor yeah and like giving the fans of the bachelor what they want because this is the format so they convinced me that it was like the best idea for everybody to do that it is better TV though sure them saying fair enough you're doing this to him it's almost like it well you're not really doing it the show's doing it and they kind of The viewers don't know that. Oh, gosh.

And that's the hard part. Everyone's like, you, bitch. And I'm like, oh, like, if you only knew, now I'm out of contract, so you know. But, like, same thing with Ari and Becca. I'm like, I guarantee they're like, Ari, like, this is going to be on camera. You need to give Becca that, you know, America will fall in love with her. And you need to give her at least that. If you're going to.

Wasn't that awkward? Seeing him walk around that house. It was so awkward. It was a waste of time. It was just like, can we sum this up in five minutes? Luckily, I get a little scanning preview so I could fast forward. I was like, oh, come on.

Like, it was just so painful. There was nothing to see. No, no. It was so painful. But anyways, the whole... You know, reality TV. What did you think of Ari? Oh, God.

Are we doing this? I don't want to do this. I play the best. I still don't know what I think of him. Like, I'm not sure. I can't... I don't... I hate when people are like,

I'm a good judge of character. I'm like, I'm not. Because I honestly was like, oh, he's probably like a really great guy. and then you hear stories and you're like, oh, is he? And then you watch him and you're like, is he just awkward or is he like doesn't know how to converse or am I just even an edited verse? There's an adjective that I think he is, but we'll say it after the podcast. Say it on three, one, two, three.

Dush canoe. No, I don't know. Like, it was hard because I didn't particularly love him as the bachelor, but also I don't know what version of him I was seen because then I saw bloopers. And I'm like, oh, he seems pretty funny. Like, I just didn't know. I liked the tweets. I think I liked him a little bit more after the fact. Like, once everyone started hating him, that's when I started liking him.

Yeah, you're like, huh, I can root for you. I can root for someone everybody hates. Yeah, no, I don't know. What are your thoughts? Oh, God. That I liked him after everyone hated him. Yeah, okay. That sums it up.

But beforehand, I don't know, it's kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah, it was. nobody you didn't have a chance to like root for him like there's nothing really to be rooting for because you didn't have a connection with him from a previous show the one that he was on was five years ago right so people are like an eternity exactly i know i'm like i'm gonna be so old news soon but that's like like nobody was like okay we just saw him get his heartbroken let's root for him nobody's like oh we know already like everyone's just hearing stories about how he's a little playboy

and this and that so everyone's like well why would i root for him so it was weird to watch yeah The licking the lips every time he went to kiss somebody just really gave me his e-b-gubes and I couldn't do it. She focuses on like the little things. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because he got the nickname, the kissing bandit. So then I feel like that went to his head.

Like, I feel like he liked that nickname. It was like he prepped every time he went in for it. Yeah, he was like, here we go. Kissing bandit coming in hot. He's like singing in his head like da-na-na-na-na-na-n-ha-kissing bennet. And then he like when he did the wrestling thing and he put on like the mask and he had a cape. And I'm like, are you acting like this is a thing?

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That's sugarbearhair.com slash vine. Do we get to confessions? Did you guys confess to me? No. You're not going to get away with it. You have to. Vanessa was like, I'm trying to think of a good one with them. And I'm like, okay, it better be good.

When did you poop your pants? Go. That's more of a Cody question. Oh. I had dysentery twice in Afghanistan. I kid you not. When you have dysentery, like, unless you're squeezing, like physically squeezing, like it comes out.

Oh. And where do you have to go? But it wasn't like a funny... His pants. In my silky's. Oh. Oh. You know his silkyes?

Yeah, of course. Everyone's seen the silks. Yeah, of course. But we were like pushed in like enemy territory. It's not like we had a facility. Yeah. It was just like a dock hooking me up to an IV and I was all dehydrated. Wow.

Man. So it wasn't like a funny poop pants. No. It was tragic. Yeah. I'm like, well, usually... But that's why your confession. right? No. Oh, okay, okay. She wants me to go with something, but just because she wants me to go with

one thing, I don't want to go with that. Okay. Well, what, now I'm curious. No, I want to have my feelings aren't hurt. I don't know. I don't listen to me. I always like to try and surprise Jessica, because I never get, like, the opportunity to surprise her. But, like, okay, are we going with it? Yeah. Is it something I haven't heard? No, you don't know this. So, yes. Wow. It's really not that serious, but you might think it's... I'm into it. So I wake up hours before Jessica wakes up every morning I wake up You watch her sleep

And well I say No, I'm weird Yeah Sean used to do that You watch me sleep We do so much Kately watches us sleep But You know I suck down like two pots of coffee

Before she wakes up Yeah And in the L.A apartment We only have one bathroom Yeah Oh the coffee poops And I well no You're heat in our sink didn't you

I don't like to go to the bathroom Because it wakes her up And I want her to be able to sleep so I've been peeing in bottles and... This is a... What do you mean? This is a plural? I do it every day.

What bottles have you been peeing in? She has water bottles, yeah. That's where my smart water's going. You pee every morning in a water bottle? Yeah. Only in the L.A. apartment, though. But I'm kind of touched because he just doesn't want to wake me up. That is one of the most romantic, right?

Wait, I'm sorry. Are you that light of a sleeper? a stream of urine will make you out. No, no, no, I have to open up the door and then I walk into the bedroom and to the bathroom. That's a $4.00 pee every time. Yeah, but that's sleep, which is, you know, that's worth a lot more. That is really sweet.

Oh. Okay. And then I'm thinking, okay, how long have you guys been together? Because one's, like, is this just, are you guys actually just in love or is this a honeymoon face? Because I'm like, Sean doesn't do that for me. Sean, like, does laundry. Sean would pee in a bottle for you.

No, Sean, he wouldn't. No, he wouldn't. Maybe a year ago he would. Let's call him right now. I'll put him on speaker. Would you be in a bottle for me? He wouldn't. I'll tell you why.

Because that's one of our arguments in the morning is I'm like, could you not? Can you not? Like, we have four bathrooms in our house. Could you not go to another bathroom to go to the bathroom? Then he'll leave the door open and the laundry room is right across from the door. And he gets up to like train clients. So he'll be up at like five in the morning. and he's doing laundry,

which is right outside the door, and the laundry doesn't just go, ding, when it's done, it goes, de, dean, no, no, I got to get the tune. I've heard those. Yeah, you know, and it goes on. It goes on and on and on,

and I'm like, could you not have done laundry last night? So, you know what? That's really romantic that you pee in bottles to not wake her up. Well, he's like 50-50 with the not waking up. He's either like super sweet and being as quiet as possible

but like if we're on an airplane or something or if he has to wake me up and he has to be my alarm clock he's so aggressive like he has no finesse so like if I'm sleeping on his shoulder on an airplane and he needs to reach over here and grab something he just moves oh yeah that's just like boom my body

my body's not made for finesse there's no finesse it's like all my movements are very deliberate don't wake me up and be like he just shakes you know no that's the same as Sean he's just aggressive in everything that he does like Too much testosterone. You put us in a physical situation, though.

You want that deliberate movement, you know? But now he's scared to wake me up. He won't be my alarm clock anymore because, like, the first 30 minutes of my day decides my mood. So if I'm not like... Same. Yes. If you wake me up with work right in the morning, like you immediately start talking about, like, work to me. Same.

Any kind of problems or aggressively waking me up. Sets the tone for the whole day. Ruins my whole day. Yeah, me too. Can't do it. I need to be, like, coddled and, like, kissed and, like, adore. Or morning sex, maybe, like, just ideas, throwing it out there. I was just saying.

Like, morning sex, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Like, some people wake up to pots of coffee, like, whatever works for you. No, I am so the exact same way. And Sean's brain, as soon as he wakes up, he's like, what do I need to do today? Yeah. And I'm like, could we not just lay here for, like, maybe half an hour and, like, spoon?

Yes, that's what I want. Yeah, because it's the same thing. I get so grumpy. And he, like, what's up? And he, like, checking his emails. And I'm like, nobody's up. right now it's five in the morning like you don't need to check your emails and then he's like here's the thing he leaves dishes in the sink all the time and he came up with this genius

idea to make it a competition because he saw that it ruined my dad get out of bed and i'd be like are you serious like there's dishes you know how much this upsets me why can't you just put the dish in the dishwasher like i don't know it's so simple and so he made it a competition so if he loses he has to rub my feet for 20 minutes well good lord there hasn't been a dish in the sink since like and that's been months i need to do that's how bad he doesn't want to rub my feet he's like he doesn't complain about anything. So if I ask him to do something, he just does it. Like, I can't even find something that I would be like, okay, if you lose, you have to do this. If you lose, you have to go to a Taylor Swift concert with me. Oh. I found out. Keep that on the big. Yeah. There you go.

Not a big, too swift guy? No. Me, Mark and Elena are going to a Taylor Swift concert, and he's staying behind. But, what do you, a Katie Perry guy? Ew, God, no. Oh, this is... Oh, boy. Oh, we don't like cave there. More of a Brittany planet Hollywood. Yeah, what's the vibe?

What's your vibe? Aaron Watson. What? I'm like, oh, Googling so quickly, Aaron Watson. Oh, yeah. I love her. It's a dude. Oh.

Oh, that's great. Oh, A-A-Ron? Aaron, yeah. Big A-W. Aaron. Oh, I'm not connected to the internet. Damn it. I failed as a host.

I should have been like, yes, oh, yeah, and then pulled up their Wikipedia. Is that Wikipedia? Yeah, Wikipedia. Damn. Aaron Watson's a country singer. Oh, okay. Oh, that's why you kind of gave me a point

because it's like Nashville, and I'm like, I don't know who that is. He specifically is against Tennessee and Nashville stars. Oh, oh. Who does he represent? Michigan. Well, in one of the songs, he, at the end of the song, he says, I'd rather be a fence post in Texas than the king of Tennessee.

Whoa. Shots fired. Jobs fired. I'm telling you, this guy, super famous in Texas. A extremely famous country singer in Texas. Texas country. He sounds like a great guy, super chill. Outside of it, like, we just went to stagecoach in L.A.

He was like the 4 p.m. afternoon act. You know what I mean? So. Wait, I had a question about stagecoach because I saw you guys were there. Is it like mandatory that you wear a bandana around your neck? What happens after a few days? Oh, so there is a purpose. Yeah.

It's so dust. Okay, this whole time I'm like, we get it. You're trendy. Like, with everybody wearing your fucking stars. I mean, it's a little bit of that. You need cowboy boots, flannel, and bandanas, and you're, like, stagecoach runny. Like, what if I showed up in, like, Converse and a Nirvana hoodie? I don't know.

Because that sounds like something I wear. That's cute. A little Hot Topic employee. It's cute. Hot topic employee? Oh, well, I just, I was seen it on every single person, and I thought it was just like a... No, it's so dusty. Yeah.

Sips, dusty. Super. It didn't seem like a kind of. Boys and Indians kind of a thing to do. Like, if people were to think this is how country is, they would put a band-a-and-on on. Yeah, I was like, I don't like cliche, and it felt a little, but now I get it. If it has a purpose, I'm, I forgive it. I would do, like, the medical mask.

Like, I think. Oh, there were, there were a few people with that. I would just take it to that level. Yeah, I would do that for sure. But you guys look to super cute. Or like the gas masks. Yeah. Oh, that's good.

Wait, you have not confessed. Oh, okay, so my confession, I had to think, like, I actually had to call my best friend because I was like, listen. How's your wine doing, by the way? Good. I'm good, okay. We both know that I have, like, a lot of confessions. There's a lot I can confess. But what is going to get me in the least amount of trouble?

Yes, always my predicaments, yes. So, Cody's face just went, oh, I'm just trying to figure out if she's going to actually say something funny or what she thinks is going to be funny. Okay, well, I didn't give it to us. saying it's going to be funny. I'm just going to say something. I know that you're a big poop advocate. So I, like, wanted to go along that, like, you know, trend, you know, not to disappoint. So my confession is that I am a very big advocate for Squatty Potty's.

Oh, yes. Okay. I'm, like, friend in the group that, like, if you don't know what it is, I'm pulling up the commercial and we're going to watch all 10 minutes of the commercial and it's going to be the best thing you've ever seen. You lift your legs to, like, gives you an easier exit. You know what? It's so comfortable. You can, like, put your knees up, just lean on them, and it's just like... Slides right out. Yeah, slides right out.

Healthy poops all around. This is the most she's talked about poop. Do you use one poop? I don't poop. I don't poop. I don't poop. I feel like you're screaming into this thing. I don't poop.

I do it all the time. Yeah, but you know what, Cody? Don't you do that to me. I know what that means. But you know what, Cody, maybe you're not screaming enough into the mic, okay? Yeah, maybe you need to reassess like your distance cool kid. You keep changing your distance. I'm excited.

I'm, like, happy to be here. You're just playing, like, the cool, relaxed role, and it's... Plain, or is that coding? No, he's playing it. He has an alter ego. Um, oh. When the cameras are on, he's, like, super, like... I don't like that.

Oh, but when the camera they're on, he smiles. He smiles. He gets super dorky. Oh, my gosh. I like that side of you better. Yes. You guys, go on. with the Squatty Potty. I have something to tell you after, but I haven't used one. I'm about to buy

one on Amazon right now. Okay. You have to buy it. Okay. But don't buy the plastic one. Buy the bamboo one because it looks super trendy in your toilet and it's like, it's like the elegant way to take a poop, you know? Again, I don't poop, babe. I don't poop. Yes, you do. I don't poop. I don't poop. Oh, and you think your shit don't stink? Well, it does. It stinks like shit. That's a quote from McGruber. No, but we're just not in that stage of our relationship. I don't want to hear him poop. I don't want to smell him poop. And I don't poop. I like push Sean in the bathrooms after mine just so. Stop. Stop. I'm like, hey, man. Come here. I'm like, wait. Look at that. Get a load of this one. No. No. No. No. I don't want to see it. I just love. Smelling it. Give it another month. You'll

be there. We call it board meetings. He'll be like, I got to take a board meeting. Actually, I call a conference call. Oh, what? Yeah. There you go. Yeah. I tell him I have to call. I mean, I actually am taking conference calls. How often do you guys lose your place on this podcast? Every, every, like, 15 minutes. Like, this is what happens all the time. But this is still my confession. Yeah. We're like, we're on point. Yeah. Squatty potty. Yes, I'm an advocate for Squatty pottie. If you don't own one, I'm not endorsed by Squatty Potty. So, like, I'm not getting paid to

say this, but we should be. Yeah, we should be. Because. I'm sure I should ask if they want to buy spots on the podcast. You should. Yeah. Squatty potty. It's great. Yeah, we've only said good things. They're like $80 for like the nice one.

Yeah, for a lifetime of good poops. Exactly. A lifetime of it just sliding right out. This is going to be the worst confession ever. No. What? That you use a squatty potty? Cody doesn't think I'm funny.

Oh, I do. Thank you. Yeah, you're funny. I never thought I'd marry someone who doesn't think I'm funny. Oh. I think you think you're funny. Which makes her funny. He has dad jokes for days.

Well, that's because you're a dad. You're supposed to have dad jokes. But for someone who doesn't think I'm funny, he does steal my jokes. And he tells them to have people. Anytime she comes up with a good one, I steal. Because it's about the delivery, so you think you can deliver it better? I don't know. No, they're actually funny.

And then I just say him toward she can't repeat it. It's because, okay, I have this problem too. Sean's like this. If something pisses him off, he's like right here. and then nobody can see me but I'm doing this hand level where it's just the same level and then if he's really happy also right here you know like that so when I think I'm being really funny and he just goes ha I'm like was that really funny or but I'm reading squatty potty reviews on Amazon right now I don't see where it really has helped my bowels but it is

constructed nicely it's much smaller than the original one I saw Kmart but it does seem to help and this one's pink Ooh, I haven't seen any pink pins. I would love a millennial pink Squatty Potty. This helps me poop. And my kids like it, so they don't fall in the toilet when they're dropping the browns off at the Super Bowl. Reading the reviews, everybody out there right now, I won't waste any more of your time on this podcast. But just go read Squatty Potty reviews on Amazon.

Watch the commercial. Have you seen the commercial? Yeah, of course. Wait, with the unicorn? With the unicorn? Oh, it's so funny. And they came out with new ones. There's new ones.

are like five to ten minutes long, but it is just like giggles for days. There was a, I had a party once, and not once. I've had multiple parties, but this one specific party, I put the squatty potty commercial on loop on my television. You are such a good host. I know. I'm like educating people on how to accurately poop. And here's another little one for you.

There's two different levels to your squatty potty. So like there's the beginner, and then there's the advance. Yeah, you got to get there, work your way up. Yeah. Like, hashtag goals. Yeah, like lower, and then you get, the higher you get, the more advanced you are. Yeah, like knees to elbows. Oh, my God.

You'll get there. You'll get there. It's like yoga for poop. You'll get there. I'm still confused. Is your confession that you have a squatty potty? My confession is, like, even though I don't poop, I am an advocateer for those who do poop to use a squatty potty.

Yeah. That's not much of a confession. Okay. Right? Okay. Yeah, it is. This is. Yeah, I have Caitlin says it's a confit.

I mean, I don't even have one for you guys because I just tell them all the time, so I'm like, I ran out. I mean, last night I had too much tequila and went over to Lowe's and that's, I mean, I saw you, we saw your drinking message. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I sent you guys a message. I'm embarrassed. It was great. It was a nice, like, little intro to. I enjoy drunken fittings. It was, who was over last night? Katrina, is that what we call it?

Yeah, my alter ego is Hurricane Katrina. Oh. She's crazy. But good crazy. Sean loves drawn Caitlin. Yeah. I bet. I'm a good time.

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That was really thrown off. He felt so passionately about this. I'm embarrassed to take that back. Immediately regret that yell. You guys have never gotten hammered together and, like, Had one of those fun nights. Well, what happened was after Big Brother and Amazing Race, we were away from alcohol for so long because in Big Brother, it actually took it away from us.

That's why I couldn't do it. Because it was so, like, volatile in there. Not everything else, that. We tried to drink after both of those, and, like, our bodies just don't take to alcohol anymore. Instantly, like, it rejects the alcohol. I get a cold the very next day. It's so bizarre. I'm trying to, like, work my way back into it because I was just telling him I feel like

drinking is a good social skill. Yeah. You never know. It is. And I want to be able to drink at our Bachelorette party and the wedding and all that jazz. And so, like, wine is as far as I can go thus far, but I'm working on it. My whole brand is being able to drink. Yeah. I feel sick if I don't drink. Think about how much money you wouldn't make if you didn't drink.

I'd lose my money. Do you have a liquor sponsor? Yeah. You do. Not a girl. Bright sellers. What's up? Oh.

We just got to deal with them. Did you really? Yes, we did. They're awesome. Okay. Love them. We haven't gotten our box of wine yet, but I am looking forward to. But when I do have my own wine brand, I will get you to endorse it.

Are you going to do a wine brand? Yeah. I love it. Is it going to call it off the vine? Maybe. I saw you guys ready-wip commercial. Oh, did you like that? Yeah, it's pretty good.

Yeah, not bad. We, uh... Don't you lie to her. Don't you not lie to her. What? You are such... I'm calling BS right now. Jessica, no, it's because Jessica had an idea to do some kind of, like, sexy endorsement in time.

No, it wasn't. And I just don't think I could pull off something like that. He's a Lutheran, so he doesn't feel comfortable. We have a dollar-shave club, like, promo. He's a Lutheran. We know what that means. We know what that means. He's a Lutheran.

He's a Lutheran. What does that mean? She's a Catholic. Yeah, Catholics throw it down. Catholics know how to throw it down. Yeah, I'm okay with doing, like, some sexy stuff. I'm Canadian. What does it all mean?

Is that a religion? I don't know what it means, but I'm Canadian. But yeah, okay, so he can't be sexy because he's Lutheran? Well, yours was a ready web commercial. Yeah. And before we saw that, we have a Dollar Shave Club promo deal. I wanted to do something where, like, I hadn't shaved my legs or something, like, wanted to cuddle or, like, bound Chickle-M-M-Wout, but wasn't, like, ready to go yet. And it led into, like, using the product.

And he was hardcore against it. And then we saw yours. look, it can be done tastefully. Yeah. It was very tasteful. Wait, were you going to let full-grown hair glue on things? Yeah.

No, I think I was just going to, like, fake it. Yeah. Vocalize it. Got it. Cut bears' hair, like, super glue it to my leg, something. Really commit. I feel like he's going to break up with me after this one. Oh, my gosh.

Now he's not. No, he can't. He probably secretly loves these things. He's like, no, you kind of. I lost me at Squatty Pottie. Kind of all right. What were we saying, though? Oh, you liked my Ready Whip commercials, basically the bottom line.

No, he didn't like it. He's lying to you. I'm calling the law. Oh, because it was like weird. It's awkward. I felt awkward doing it. I was like, so you want to? Like, I would never say that.

We would just do it. Anyway, I have it. I'm like looking at the time. I'm looking at the time and I'm like, no. It's going by too fast. I have quick fire relationship questions. we're going to get to. Are you ready for this? Send it. Send it.

Cody, what is one thing on Jess's bucket list? Next. I'm so disappointed in your area. My heart's breaking. Oh, no. Oh, gosh. Next. This is going to be the headline for the podcast. Jess and Cody's last interview with Caitlin.

I don't know how big the thing has to be. Like, she wants to go to Paris. Is that a thing? Yeah. That totally count. Yeah. See? Winning. Winning. Jess, who is Cody's favorite? favorite celebrity. Oh, gosh.

Not Taylor Swift. Your favorite celebrity. Aaron. Aaron Watson's his favorite singer. Okay. Yeah. Anyone from The Bachelor. Literally you. We'll go with Caitlin Bristow. Cool. Next.

Cody, what is Jess's love language? What does that mean? The book that we just got, a fan gave it to us. Oh, you got to read it. There's words of affirmation, physical touch. gifts quality time and acts of service

so how I would say physical touch okay is that right I'm needy no that's Sean's his physical touch we're always touching

like even when we're not like knowing that we're touching we're touching that used to be we're not touching you're not that's because the chairs are clinking here yeah I get it no you guys have been touchy I'm jealous over here

I don't are you fall in love what's Cody's words of affirmation I think no way no what what's yours what makes you feel loved it's probably touch oh you're right because every time I say I love you too much you think I'm like losing value in the I feel like the more pictures that are taking to somebody like each picture has less value oh wow like what like your soul is me thinking this is like so opposite of low low's like life is Instagram I literally document every single moment yeah We're pretty good about not doing that.

That's really great. We have a good balance. You actually just said that to me. You'll never find, like, you'll never find an independent picture of me. Like a selfie. Oh, I remember you talking about that on live feeds being like, do I have to do selfies? He dodged. He dodged a picture.

They even had a person before the show. Like, they have a camera and they take a picture of you and they make you, like, put your hand up to where it looks like you're taking a selfie. So a lot of people try to call me out on that. That wasn't. You're like, now they made me. Cody, what is one thing that we wouldn't know about Jess that you think people should know? Her middle name.

What is it? Well, ever since you proposed, people know it. What is it? Yeah, because it's on YouTube now. Do you want me to say it? Yeah, go for it. I don't care. Furtado.

What, that's just so cool. I love that. My mom's going to love you for that. Potato, frittato, whatever. That was so bad. Now I'm more insecure about it. I actually think it's badass. She's like frittata, patata.

What a lot of people don't know? about Jessica is that we are more alike than most people ever realize. Really? Nelly Furtado is amazing. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, Nelly Furtado. We're still on Furtado. Sorry. No, that's a good one. You guys are more alike than people know? I think

that's what brought us together in Big Brother, because loyalty and respect, I've never found my equal in that. And, like, he would never disrespect me, and he's so loyal, and I'm right there with him. We do try and do things above and beyond to always respect each other.

Yeah. We're very awesome. I think that's the best part of our relationship. That's hands down. You guys are inspiring me to be a better fiancé. I'm serious. I'm like, I'm going to try that whole respect thing. Try that on for size.

Respect. So homework for Sean is don't do laundry at 5 a.m. Yeah. And homework for you is just try respect. Just do better. Just do better. Find out what it is to me. Okay.

Cody, what is the secret for keeping Jess happy? Sex. All right. Simple enough. It's just cold in here. I mean, she is very simple. Yeah. They're just very easy to please.

Very easy going. Gosh, you're so happy just not any outside factors causing any stress in your life. Because I'm telling you when Jess goes off, like, she's a force to be reckoned with. And I, and I'm sorry. scared for any outside forces that try and disrupt what Jess has got going on. So I already know I already know what her

maintenance is to where I know what not to disrupt and you know stay away from but outside people outside forces when they come in and like disrupt it they have no idea and she loses it. I feel like a lot of people are just very ignorant to when they're being

disrespectful. Oh absolutely. And it's my biggest pet peeve like my latest one. My latest one right now. He's been hearing it the last couple days. I've just been bitching about it, like, crazy. Like, people, girls will slide into my DMs. Like, I got one today being like, oh, my God, Cody's so sexy, can you make a sexy calendar of him so that we can buy it? And I'm like, and this woman is married with children, and I'm like, it just like really gets on my skin. Just don't get me started on that shit. That is, like, one of my biggest pet peeves. I'm like, I don't know if girls think

they're complimenting me by being extremely creepy to Sean. But I'm like, You can't say those things to him. Like, people cross lines and they're so inappropriate because they think of you as a celebrity. So they think you're untouchable. Like... We're definitely not. Well, we feel the same way. We can't even use the term fans or celebrity.

We're like, no. Washed up reality television. Like, that's what we think of ourselves. It was okay. I'm like, no, now I'm a podcast host. That's like, that's it for me. But same thing. Like, we get so uncomfortable.

And people are like, oh, you're like famous. We're like, no, we're recognizable. We're not famous. Ooh, I like that one. Yeah. That's a good one. But that's, I get so uncomfortable when girls are inappropriate across that line with Sean, because I'm like, baby, if you had any, like, if men were

like that to me constantly throughout the day, no. That's what I say. Like, guys have to be sliding into your DMs. I am very, all the time. You're gorgeous girls. I'm very surprised. Like, dudes for the most part have been very respectful of our relationship. Because guys don't have that weird obsession, like, or if they do, they do, they.

They just keep it to themselves. Yeah. Where women, like, I don't know what it is, but they fan girl. Like, you know, like girls at concerts. You don't see guys being like, no. Like, it's girls. I completely agree with you. That's completely it.

And I just wish that people were a little bit more, like, self-aware. Because other, like, people are insecure. I don't care who you are. You have insecurities. And if you don't want someone to, like, poke at your insecurities, don't do it to other people. would never, ever in a million years, slide into someone's DMs who I've never met in my life and, like, insert my commentary on, like, something they might be insecure about. I know.

And I don't know what enables other people to do it. And I just wish people were aware. That's, well, that's the whole problem is that they're not. Yeah. And it's my biggest pepiv. It's the weirdest thing I'm always mind-blown by every time I'm like, you'd think by now, I'd be like, people are crazy. But every time I'm like, how are you that crazy?

Yeah. How can you even do that? Like, oh, my gosh, I don't even want to know what comes into Sean's DMs. I don't even want to know. You've never looked? She pretty much runs my Instagram. That's not sure. I literally never go on, but it is hooked up to my Instagram.

Because when he first started out, I was like, I kind of ran it. But you're, like, pretty self-sufficient now. Well, I... You're learning. I'll see a good picture that she took and I'll be like, can I post it on mine or should you post it on yours? And she'd be like, yeah, go for it. Yeah, you can't steal content. And she'll let me, like, say my own little caption.

Because he's never going to take a photo. I'm the one that takes them, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I hear you. Okay, we have to wrap it up soon because this is going, I mean, I could do this all night. Because we're supposed to be at dinner. I know. I'm like, don't we have a Roszo?

Vanessa's, like, at the reservation right now. Like, waiting for us. So, they could maybe just wait in line. There, she's, it's, she just said, I'm parking right now. What, seriously? Oh, actually, Vanessa just said, just got a pooping attack. We'll leave shortly. No way

I swear to God Look I can't Classic Vanessa She would Never disappoints Nope You know

We're in the tree With the trust And the nest So we're good here Everybody already You're your friend They're just Red and alone

They already know worse Do you guys have any questions For me? I like to turn it on my guess When are we going on a double date Oh yeah Next time we're all in the same place You guys need to come Nashville

Why isn't Sean here? Um, because he, the guy is so busy right now. He can't, I mean, now that he has clients too and like can't leave, um, he's launching an app soon. He's got like a photo shoot he needed to do. I'm only here for, I leave tomorrow. Yeah, he's killing it. So he's meeting me in Canada day after tomorrow. I told Danielle we would come in June to Nashville, P.S., by the way.

Danielle who? Maltby. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He, her, oh yeah, because she's dating. Polly. Polly. craziness reality TV worlds just

collided and my last question can I borrow 20 bucks I didn't bring a purse it could really get me out of a couple jams I'm just kidding have you guys ever seen that skit with what's her face Melissa what's the girl's name from bridesmaids Melissa McCarthy have you ever seen her SNL skit with where she's a taste tester for ranch dressing on SNL

and she's like she really wants her slow Logan to land because they get like 50 bucks if they can come up with the so she's like Hidden Valley Ranch it's like a party in my mouth and she keeps like trying to like sell her like pitches and then she like drinks a bunch of ranch dressing what was my point of the story crickets what was it um oh oh I know bucks is the 20 bucks so she keeps trying to like really sell her ideas but other people are like more calm and she just freaks out and then And she's like, oh, man, I could really use that $50. It could really get me out of a couple jams.

So I just dropped that line. I had to give credit to Melissa McCarthy. Shout out. And then, oh, Cody, I noticed on the way in. Do you have a hole in your shoe? This is definitely a joke. This is a mom joke for sure. Do you have a hole in your shoe?

I like the commitment that you looked, though. You tried to really sell it. She looked under the table at his point. Wait, did you say no? you don't have a hole in your shoe? No. Oh, then how did you get your foot in it? There she is.

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