Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Jessie James Decker & Alan Bersten: DWTS Highs and Lows

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

A woman who wears MANY hats (seriously, how does she do it?) and her partner (the duckmaster with allergies) join Kaitlyn in Nashville to give all the behind the scenes deets on this season of Dancing with the Stars. Jessie James Decker and Alan Bersten may be the (somewhat) underdogs this season, but we are manifesting a win for this couple because no one is working harder and juggling more than these two… plus, they’re pretty dang entertaining. Jessie and Alan share the high highs and low lows of the season thus far, and Jessie and Kaitlyn definitely relate to one another as they talk all about their similar experiences on the show. Plus, Jessie and Kaitlyn find out they have similar energies and exactly the same aura, so this podcast pairing was meant to be. Alan and Jessie open up about what they’ve learned from each other so far, and Jessie wraps the episode with one of Kaitlyn’s all time favorite confessions… trust us, this is one you’re going to want to hear. Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: AMAZON - Learn more about Prime Early Access Sale by visiting amazon.com/earlyaccess.  PAIR EYEWEAR - Go to paireyewear.com/VINE for 15% off your first purchase. EUROPEAN WAX CENTER - Make a reservation today - your first wax is free. PROGRESSIVE - Quote at Progressive.com to join the over 27 million drivers who trust Progressive.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today's guest is a singer, songwriter, TV, personality, fashion designer, beauty and lifestyle, influencer, entrepreneur, two-time best-selling author, mom of three beautiful children. I had to take a breath there. And now a star on the season of Dancing with the Stars. Jesse James Decker and her partner, the Duckmaster himself, Alan, join me in person today to talk about their experience so far this season. This conversation with them made me miss dancing so much. And can they please be an all-star season? I'm going to say that until the cows come home. Maybe I'll start manifesting it.

Anyways, these two are just living it up with a few downs. And I am cheering them on from my couch. So enjoy my combo with Jesse and Allen. Alan, seriously, do you want to blow your nose? She's like, I'm having a love of God. It's allergies. Actually, I will say I never had allergies in my whole life until I moved to Nashville. And then they got really bad.

It is rough here. It's rough. It's rough in these streets. Okay, so let's talk about it. You guys are in Nashville. You are rehearsing in Nashville because, Jesse, you have like 30 million things going on. So I thought you're going to say 30 million kids. Just three kids, but.

Just three. Just three, Caitlin. Don't be so dramatic. But you have so much going on. I chose to stop everything I was doing when I went on Dancing with the Stars because I was like, I don't think my brain can handle like the amount of anxiety and like stress and hours that it, like, I knew what it took because I talked to Hannah before. And I talk to other people that have been on it.

And they're like, no, you don't have time for anything. So how are you doing it? I am honestly, I feel like I just keep saying the same things over and over again. Like, I'm just doing my best. Yeah. I'm doing my absolute best. It's hard. I feel like in a perfect world, it would be great to just not do anything else, but just practice with Allen.

And I know that it would be so beneficial. Yeah. It's just not, like, realistic for me. I can't, obviously, Nashville and L.A. are not that close. Yeah. But the traveling is really hard. I mean, as soon as the show's over, we're on a red eye. And, like, we're back.

And it's because I want to be able to get up with the kids. And I want to take them to school, pick them up from school. I want to, like, I'm taking vivid gymnastics today. I'm going to force his baseball game tonight. Like, I'm trying to maintain some normalcy for the kids because I'm always. I'm always around them. Like, I'm with my, I have children. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I feel like that is, that's been the biggest challenge. Yeah, no kidding. I mean, I had two dogs and I was like, get them on a plane and get them to L.A. because I'm not doing this without them. So not the dogs are similar to kids, but I'm so obsessed with them. Yeah. I was like, you know, and so you've always just been such a hands-on mom and your kids are such a big part of your life that I was, I figured that's what you would do. When Alan told me you were his partner, I was like, oh, did she get to practice in Nashville?

because I couldn't see you just, you know, picking up and going, even though I remember being at one of your shows once and you said something that I loved. And it was something about your daughter seeing you do what you love also, even though you carry guilt with you as a lot of moms do with leaving and working. But it is such a cool example, in my opinion, to still go after things that you love to do and work hard. For sure, because my kids have big dreams just like I did. And so showing them that you can make your dreams come true is such a special gift, I think. You know, there's many times where I'm playing a show and I look over and she's sitting there with her headphones on watching and smiling. Like she loves it. The kids love it.

So I do feel like it is important to show them like, listen, you can make your dreams come true, but also have a normal life, which is very important to me. Yes, I agree. That's why we all live in Nashville. And the kids love dancing with the stars. Do they? Oh, yeah. They're all in. He was living his best life during Elvis week.

Oh, that was my favorite. I think that might have been my favorite part of the whole episode to see him, like in character. He, like, he was on the floor before the show started and that he was, like, dancing. Yeah, he pulled him up. The guy pulled him up and he was just dancing. What a sweetie. Yeah, he was committed. Oh, that's awesome.

I love that he loves Elvis. Obsessed. Really sweet and works really well for a week two of dancing to the stars. I was like, great package. That was amazing. Yeah. I know I said I kind of knew what I was getting into. You still don't fully until you're like in the studio and you realize how tiring and

exhausting and how much of an asshole Alan is. Take that back. But did you have any idea what you were getting yourself into? I love you, Alan. You know what? I've been toying with the idea of doing dancing with the stars for years. Oh, good. Okay, so you're finally like, I'm doing it.

And I finally said yes. And I feel like before when I was toying with the idea, I had enough time to think about it. Yeah. This time, it was a last minute ask. Yeah. And they were like, we need an answer. like today. Yeah. And I think feeling that pressure, I was just like in a very spontaneous,

like, I'm going to go for it. Mood. Yeah. But before I said yes, I called Jimmy Allen was my first call. Yeah. And after speaking to him, I honestly, he was my only call that day. And then after that I followed up with a few different other people that have been on the show. But I was like, you know what? I'm just going to go for it. I'm going to do it. This is a chance of a lifetime. This is something that like, I'll look back on and be proud that I did it. But I did not. know what I was getting into. I'll just say that. It's a lot. Alan, how did you prep Jesse at all? Or did

you, or were you like? There wasn't really a lot of time to prep. I guess not. It was like, okay, well, we're dancing the cha-cha this week. Usually, like, we get like two weeks before the first show to, like, try to learn other styles. So it was, it was, it was

not easy just going into like, hey, hey, nice to meet you. We did have a disadvantage. We did have a disadvantage. We started about two weeks behind everyone. Yeah, because I remember I was like, wow, I got a lot of practice time here. Yeah, we had a week. Yeah, that's barely, Alan. Yeah, no, a week with traveling and stuff. A week with me having shows, like finishing my tour. I don't know how we pulled off that cha cha, but we did. You did. You looked great. I was like, that was an impressive first dance, especially because I knew also the amount of time you guys had and I knew other couples had way more.

Plus, you have like a lot of good dancers on this season. Everyone's incredible. Yeah. Everyone is incredible. I sit there on that balcony and I'm always like, wow, they're so good. It really is impressive. Like, even the people that have been sent home, I'm like, they were still pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. But I do. So you get for calling me an asshole.

You can be a dick, but that's part of being a coach, I think. Like, you grew up doing gymnastics, is-ish. Oh, well, did you have a coach that was really hard on you ever? No, I dabbled in gymnastics, but it was like, I, I, I picked it up really fast. I think I expected. So I wanted to be a cheerleader in my freshman year of high school. And in order to make, like, to be on JV, you could just do like some easy tumbling.

But to make varsity, my goal is to make varsity. You had to have your backhand spring and you're out of backhand spring. Yeah. So I remember I had to like expedite that process because I didn't have one. So freshman year I go to gymnastics and I learned how to do a backhand spring, around a backhand spring within a month. Wow. And so I thought, okay, I'm a fast learner.

I can figure out this sort of thing. But no, I didn't have tough coaches at all. I mean, it was tumbling. I mean, it's cheerleading, tumbling. It was not, I've never had this sort of coaching before. And I've had vocal coaching from time to time. But I feel like because I'm naturally a professional singer, it has never been a difficult task. Right.

Because, well, Alan, I'll let you stand up for yourself. But when I had Artem, that was, he made me cry daily. Like daily, hourly, I was crying. Artem, not Alan. Not dance with Caitlin. And I would be like, my gosh. Like this. And you're a dancer.

And I was, and I thought I was doing really well and picking it up. Like, Alan, you saw when you taught me a little something, you're like, oh, you pick it up really quick. I thought I was doing really well. And then I felt like he was just beating me down. But now I look back on that experience. And I'm like, I love how hard he was on me because I would have given up and I would have just walked all over him if he didn't like. But the only person that suffers then is the person.

going out there performing on Monday. It's true because you only have this specific amount of time to go in there, especially for you because you're still doing everything else in your life. And I was able to just go in and do like seven hours of just like day after day after day. And like, no, I didn't take lunch breaks. Like I was crazy. And you're still doing your whole like being a mom, working your ass off, doing everything while trying to learn dance. And so you need to be pushed in a way that you've probably never been pushed before. And it's, It's really, it was really hard for me to be pushed like that because I had gone through like a little bit of ballet training where my dance teacher like literally made us go on our

point shoes and walk across the floor and like till we bled and she like had no sympathy. So I was like, okay, I can handle this. Hey, Artum. Artem's the nicest though. He's so. He really is like outside of the dance studio. I was like, he's such a softy and like so sweet and so fun. And then in the dance studio, I was like, damn, like take it easy on me.

But I will say that is what got me to the point of where I got. too through the whole season. Which is where Kate. I won. The winner. But I feel like I needed that pressure and I didn't like him for a long time. But have you guys had any arguments yet or are you still? I mean, I had arguments with Art.

I'm like, well, I will say we've had, I would say more of like insightful. Yeah, like, come to Jesus moments. Yeah. I would say we've never, I don't think we've argued. We've never argued, but it was more like. Let's take a beat. An understanding. Yeah.

And which. Take a moment here and like I want to run through. something with you. Yeah. And like truthfully it helped. I will say, you know how of an intense person I am. Yes. Jesse's really showing me that like there's, it doesn't have to be intense all the time.

Yeah. And I really look, reflect on it. I'm like, it doesn't have to be intense all the time. There can be moments of like, hey, you, you really are doing a good job. Let's just fix this. As opposed to no, do it again. Yeah. You know, and that's really hard in the moment to see, but I'm trying to learn.

Because it has worked for you before in the past as well. So you're used to a certain style. Yeah, but also it's like I don't want to be the guy that just yells. Yeah. But in my mind, I'm like, I'm not trying to yell at her. I'm trying to get her to just do it right. It's hard. It's hard.

But I'm learning because of Jesse. Something that you're really good at, Alan, is after you've had your moment, you will come back and like you're really good at apologizing, seeing where you went wrong. It might take you a little bit, but you really do. And you come back and you try and be better the next time. So I feel like you listen. Is that true, Jesse?

yes for sure yeah he tries to be like cognizant of it the next time you two would come together and be like okay I don't need to yell right now like it might still come out but then you'll realize it for sure and I think that's where Alan and I'm more alike than we probably even realize like we have no shame we have no ego involved and I feel like we both apologize we both are just real with each other and I think that's why our partnership works where I'll be like are you know what I'm not getting it because my brain is not piecing this together and I'm frustrated and I just need a minute here yeah instead of I know like I don't have there I have zero ego there's never like a moment. There's never like a moment. I'm doing it right. I'm like, no, because she's, she's honestly like, can we do it again? I don't know it. Yeah. I'm like, no, you do know it. Just try it. Have you ever had that experience?

Yes. You're like, I don't know it. And Artem's like, no, you just do it. Yes. All the time. But I really don't think I know it. That's what I said too. I'd be like, no, I actually don't think I'm getting this.

And he'd be like, you just did it like two minutes ago. For sure. But it's like, that was a fluke and that was just random. I was like, I don't know how that happened. But I do see, like, if I were to go. go do something, like sing. I know I have a beautiful voice. But if I were to sing and by mistake hit a note,

I would probably not be able to hit it again. Yes, exactly. So when I take a second to think about it, I understand it. But in the moment, I'm like, you're doing it so well. Just do it again. Yeah. But it's also hard for you guys because sometimes I feel like when you teach somebody, something that you really know, you're like,

how are you not picking this up? Like even for myself with my niece or something, I'm like, it's just to me common sense sometimes where I'm willing to remember that she's just a 14-year-old girl who doesn't know that yet, where I feel like the dancers are like, how do you not get that? A hundred percent. It's like drinking water to you. You just drink water.

Everything you're saying, you're like speaking my thoughts. Honestly, everything you're saying, and it's been like, I've needed it so much to speak to people that have done this show because everyone's been so accurate in what they're telling me. But I do think that where he's like, it's just this and this and this. And I'm like, you're a professional dancer at the highest. level. Yeah.

And I am not at all. Well, you're getting there, Jesse. You are barely, my friend. No, you, here's what I'll say. The judges were very hard on you. That's all right. Yeah. It's all right.

Yeah. What I will say, though, is Jesse, like, to me, yes, good dancing is like, oh, great to see. But there's something more, like, impressive about somebody working hard. I agree. I can't learn it right away, but doesn't give up and then gets it. And then you go on stage and you shine. And that is. It's more meaningful.

It's what America loves to see, too, because everybody loves the underdog. I don't even think you're the underdog, by the way. But everyone loves to root for someone that's... Can you just tell us for the underdog? Because everyone loves an underdog. Like, I feel like that's what people like to see on that show is improvement. And somebody that started not with a dance background. I got in crap for that all the time that I had a bit of a dance background.

It's funny. When you have a dancer as your celebrity partner, they've never danced before. Yeah, no, no videos on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. But when you don't have one, like, like I was. with Sky Jackson with you and she never had training I'm like Caitlin dance training oh on YouTube there it is she has dance training

I'm like sending out on Twitter oh Caitlin's a dancer Go ahead and search mine and nothing pulls up go go for it I challenge anyone find something The only thing you'll find is me moving around with a pregnant belly in a video Trying to figure

something out but it's just funny like when you're in that situation You want to downplay it totally But with this it's like it's like there's no downplaying it Jesse like you have never had training but you're not giving up and that's what's impressive and that's what's important and you've had a really good attitude about it I like because there's a lot of people like you said you don't have an ego behind it where I think a lot of people do I had to check my ego because if the judges said something that I didn't agree with usually I would be like I don't agree with that but I was like Caitlin just take it and take it as constructive criticism and be grateful that you're here and you do that really well. well when, you know, I do think it doesn't matter that judges are hard on you because they usually are hard on the people that they want to go the furthest in my opinion. So I feel like when you hear their feedback, does it like light a fire under your butts to be like, okay, I'm going to

prove them wrong the next week. It's a combination for me. It's a combo of like, okay, I want to get better. I want to work harder. But then it's also, I feel a little deflated if I'm being honest, because I feel like it takes so much for me to even get to the place of like finishing the dance and not even fumbling on a move. So as soon as I'm finished and that dance is completed and I'm hugging out because I'm so proud. I'm like I did it. Oh my God. They're the blood,

sweat and tears. And then to be told I didn't do well, I'm like, oh, I don't know what else I can do. It's like, why are you kicking me while I'm down here? Because I already feel so down on myself and I'm still in awe that I even completed a dance because it is so challenging for me.

Like, honestly. So it does. It makes me a little sad because I'm like, Like this past week did make me sad because I felt like I worked so hard at that one. I will say to me this was my favorite dance of Jesse's. I think the amount of growth you've shown. Yeah. It was, it was like it was like Derek said night and day. It really was.

Like was it perfect? No, but that's not perfect as boring. And you don't want perfect on week. And you don't want perfect on week. What are we on before? It was growth and it was real. Yeah. You know, it wasn't like I was told to play. my arm here. No, it was like feeling and it was, I, to me, there's no better feeling than when

we finish a dance. Every time. We just did it. We just did it. Because at the beginning of the week, you're like, how the hell are we going to do this? And then you get there and then you do it and you're like, we freaking did it. Every time. And today I'm in that place where I'm like, I don't know how we're going to get through this. You're going to do it. I'm, I'm hoping so. You are. You're going to do it and you're going to have that same feeling every week of, and you're just going to be more and more proud. And because it does get harder. Sorry. It does. it gets harder, it gets more competitive. But I will say you learn more about your body.

So in the same way, it gets easier. Yeah, that's true. You know, like, oh, I'm good at this move. I know how to point my arm now. That's true. You know, when you start from scratch, I think maybe mentally it gets harder because you want it more. And is that what you think?

100%. And, like, yeah, the songs get longer. You introduce two dances a week, so that gets harder. Yeah. But, like, at first, I think it's physically hard because you're not used to dancing for three hours a day, four hours. a day of, you know, learning how to move my hip if you've never done that into like, I really want this. I need this to make, like, I need to make sure I do a good job.

Your body does start adapting to those moves too. You're like, oh, this is coming more naturally now. And then it becomes mentally harder. Yes. It's so true. Yeah. It's like you said, blood, sweat and tears. It really is. But it's going to be one of the things that you're literally the most proud of, I think, because of how hard you really do work and how bad you want something. and you grow as a person so much through the whole process because you really do learn about your resilience and strength and like, you know, like you said, the feeling you get after you do it.

But also that feeling comes with like, if something's easy in life, it doesn't have a good payoff. Like when you work hard for something, that payoff is huge. Like would you say it was the hardest for you to learn how to be a duck master? Yes.

We're referencing the duck master. I was a duck master. Have you heard of the Peabody Hotel in Memphis? You know how they have the ducks that come in? Yeah, there's an honorary duck master. There's an honorary duck master. And you're looking at him. At the Peabody?

At the honorary duck master. Yeah, we went there on tour. I got to walk the ducks. And he was chosen to wear a jacket. Oh my gosh. They gave me a cane. I have a cane with a duck on it. Oh, my God.

It was freaking hilarious. Yeah. It was really cute. It was cute. It was cute. Like royal. I'm royal to. Sure.

Yeah, you were for like two hours with the ducks. But you were so proud of it. And you were like, can everybody come and watch? And I think like two people showed up to watch. Okay, two people, it was a packed house. I actually really did want to come watch that. But I was podcasting. I was podcasting.

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That would be awesome. Because like I feel like, I don't know. No offense to Alan. I just love working with women. I really do. I always have loved working with women. What girl would you choose? Maybe Emma.

I really like Emma. Oh, Emma's so fun. Or Pita is so sweet. Yeah, sweet. Um, I love Coco. I mean, I love all of them. I just feel like I'm such a girl's girl at heart and I just feel such an ease around women and like they would have a different perspective of like how to move my body. So anytime any of the pro girls give me any advice when we're doing camera blocking, I'm always so grateful. Yeah. Even though like I know I have the dance at that point, but any extra little tidbit is nice. That is nice. It's also like that girl perspective. Yeah. I'm like, oh, you know, you look like a girl. We're doing it like a girl. Whereas like, I'm like a grown man and I'm trying to be like a girl. And she's like, that looks. It is so, that is something I feel like I missed on my season.

Well, I missed a few things. There was no audience because it was 2020 COVID. And we didn't get to really like hang out with the other dancers and see them. But I didn't get to have the girls come in and help me move my body the way that Artem was telling me to. And he would be like, Caitlin, you think that's sexy? You're not being sexy. And I'd be like, oh my God. He just means it so straightforward as a dancer.

Like he didn't mean that. not like you're not a sexy person, not that he would say that anyways, but you know what I mean. Like he just wasn't able where if a, where if a woman came in and was like this, I don't know, just to see her do it would help a lot. Oh, 100%. I like, there's, especially when somebody's a visual learner for guys as well, if I see a guy doing something, it's easier to mimic. Yeah. As opposed to if a girl's showing me something just because it's, I don't know. I get what you're saying.

I wish I was a good girl dancing. I wish I was a good girl. Let's repeat that one. What was that? I wish I could show how to be a better girl. You did a good job in the rumba of like really trying to give me that female energy. I'm being humble. You really did.

He really did. But it's like it could be the most minute things. And when we're in camera blocking and a few of the girls are like, hey, that was great. Do a little bit of this more or make sure this flows. I'm like, oh my God, thank you. Like I'm so grateful for it. If I could choose a different partner, I would choose Mark. He is really good.

Mark is super sweet. I think my mind just immediately went to it. Like, it would be cool to have a girl partner. I think so too. I think so too. I will, I guess so Gleb and what's Shangela's name when she's not in drag? DJ. DJ.

But I think I've only called her Shangela. Yeah. I love her energy on the dance floor. Yeah. Holy smokes. Like, does she have dance background? I don't know, but she's just always so incredible. She's a performer.

She is always so kind to everyone, so friendly, always just, she's just the sweetest person. Seems like so supportive and happy. Yeah, Shangela is having a ball. Yeah, I love it. On and off the stage. Yeah. What do you think your biggest competitors are at this point? I mean, we know.

Everyone. Oh, whoa. What? Everyone, like, honestly, I feel like I'm just lucky to be in this competition because I told you this is not me like, when I stand over that balcony and watching everyone's performances, I'm in awe of everyone. Yeah. Everyone is like...

Everyone's great in their own way. Yeah. They are really good. I feel so behind in the pack. I really do. You're not. You're not. I know, but I'm just being honest.

Like, that's how I feel and I like have very like... My confidence is not the highest in this. Right now I'm getting there and I'm trying and I am like honestly giving my absolute best that I can give. And I'm hoping that it continues to grow like the confidence in this. It's just. so foreign to me, but everyone is so good to me. Like, I really couldn't say one person.

But I will say, like, if you look at Mark and Charlie, Gabby and Val, and Wayne and Whitney, if those three are split up on any other season, they're each winning. Yes. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. I really don't know who's winning. Yeah, I have no idea.

I mean, you guys could. You could? I'm telling you, nobody wants to watch somebody who's already confident as a dancer. What did I tell you? Nobody wants to see that. Have I said there like a million times? I know. That's like when Gabby said something the other week

and she was like, I just don't add up to Charlie and I was like, what? Charlie all, first of all, it's a voting show and she has like how many millions of followers it's already like not fair. But she grew up as a dancer, didn't she like? Yeah, but also everyone, I don't know the backgrounds of everyone. I will say though, like they are phenomenal.

They're really good. All three of those couples are like technically. phenomenal. Yeah. And you have said that. You're like, they're technical. Everything they're doing is right.

Yeah. And I'm like, great. But they're also doing really hard stuff as well. So it's not easy. I don't think it's easy for anyone. I will also say she has millions of followers,

but so did Jojo Siwa. That's true. That's true. It's one thing to have millions of followers. It's also like, I don't know what makes somebody win. You can't just say they're the best answer. There's no.

There's no secret. There really is no secret. There's nothing. It's just like, like Eman won and it was unexpected. But when you look at it, everyone's like, yeah, we all voted for him. Yeah, it's true. That's true. The first night I watched his season, I was like, I would love if that guy won.

There's something about him that, like, is he the most technical? No. No. He feels it and he commits to it. And you just want to root for somebody that's trying their hardest. It's really true. That's true. They've had a lot of dancers on in the past that haven't won. Yeah.

You know, you guys are coming up on week four, but by the time this episode airs, you'll be into week five. So I know we've kind of talked about struggles so far, but what has been the best part for you both? The best part, there's a lot of great parts about it. But, you know, when I walk away from everything and we get on that red eye, I just feel like outside of our partnership, like the crew and the, the environment is like the most warm, kind environment. I always feel so welcomed and I feel like everyone's so nice. Like every single person that works at that studio is just like the most kind heart. Like I'm just in awe.

They really are. Everyone's so nice and I feel so comfortable. Like I feel like a fish out of water every time I step in and I always feel so welcomed and comfortable and like they make the experience so enjoyable. Yeah. It's a family. It's a family. Like it's so stressful that it's like.

I'm so grateful to have that and like just such a warm environment to walk into every week. I love that also now we're able to interact more with the contestants. It was, you miss one of the best aspects of the show. I made up for lost time on the tour. On the tour, yeah, but that like that camaraderie because everyone is going through the same thing. Oh, I love it. I mean, even after the first night after we did the cha-cha and we all went out there and we had our little like perseco or shampoo, as I say, with.

A shampoo with Gabby and Val and Gleb and Teresa. It was just like, it was so much fun. I'm like, oh, this is so fun. It really is like, it does have that family feel. Even though I did it during COVID, I still felt that same way. Like, because I guess, too, I came from the Bachelor, Bachelor world where I felt like everyone was out to get me and. You run the Bachelor? Long time ago.

So it doesn't feel family-oriented when you do that show. No. It feels like someone's out to get you. Someone's trying to manipulate a situation. I always think like you have all these sisters and it's so. fun sometimes I actually got along with all the girls except for one on my season but it was just a much different environment oh I'm over it um to go from that and that's what I had in my head is like oh that's what reality TV is I got so scared and so then I went into that being like I really do trust everybody and I feel like everyone's like wants the best for everyone that's how I feel right now and they do it's my favorite part of everything is I really like everybody in the cast the crew it's really fun but I think that's like why the show's been around forever because everyone that is part of it loves it yeah everyone who's been on it for the most part every celebrity that's ever been on is like oh i loved it and they want to come back

yeah they want to like even just come watch the show because it's just so welcoming i was begging dina to put me as the host i was like please i just have been great i would do anything to be back in that family because i just i honestly have this is honest i really have a tough time sometimes even watching on mondays because i feel like i'm supposed to be there or i'm like sad that i'm not there anymore. You're waking up from a dream and you're like, why am I here? And I get all emotional because I just, I just love it. I just loved it. And even though in the like week 10 or whatever, I was like, I don't care if I get sent home. I need out. But now I look back and I'm like, no, I want, I would relive that again in a second if I could. I could do an all-star season. I would love that. I do want to

go back to this week's dance because you came out in literally gold. You were covered in gold. I just want to know how long. I saw a little like quick video of you getting that done, but how long did take to put all that makeup on. I will tell you it took longer to get it off. Oh. Are you still getting it off? I still have pieces. In places.

Yeah. Places that only Eric saw. Let me tell you that now. He was the one that told me when I came back. He was like, what is all of this here? Why is this golden? He's like, why are, why is this golden in here? I got really close with the, with the glam squad.

Yeah, no kidding. Because I literally had to be naked for them to get it everywhere. Yeah. It looked awesome It took like a good hour and a half to two hours to put on But I'm telling you I'm still trying to get it off Yeah I mean sometimes

I had a hair piece once that they like glued in And I couldn't get glue out of my hair for like a month It was crazy But it always looks so good Like when you were laying there on that bench I was like I already love this dance Just because of how you looked in that moment It was so good

It was cool to play that character and that role And like I really felt it I felt it during the dance and it was cool to kind of have a sultry dance because I felt like a woman in it, you know? Like I, the first dance was really fun and southern and I just felt at home with Sweet Home Alabama. Week two, I felt like it was for, it was for Forrest

because it was Elvis Week, but I felt a little like out of sorts because it was the Fox Trot and it was very like proper. Proper. And I do not feel like a proper person at all. But week three with the rumba, I was like, oh, I feel like a woman. Yeah. I feel like a lady. That dance does do that to you.

Yeah, I loved it. Especially in the outfit and everything that you had going on. It was, you could tell, you were feeling that. I think that's what I always love the most is when I watched them and you could tell they just loved it.

Like, they were really into it. I was so into it. It was really cool. And I don't know how that didn't come off on, well, I guess if you're still trying to get it off, it was magic.

I think they sprayed her with, what, probably hairstained. But you weren't in gold in the beginning of the episode. That's the cool part. Yeah. So you did that during the live? Yeah. So before, they had actually already done my legs and my arms.

Okay. And back. So that's why I had that dress that covered up every bit of me. So all they had left to do was neck up. Oh, that's awesome. So like face and hair. Yeah. And hands and feet they'd already done.

But you couldn't tell. So in the like dress rehearsal, you didn't have any of that. It was. When the show was live, we didn't have any of that. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Wow.

So you were really like they're like, we got to get this done. We did the washdown. And then she left. I had to, like, run. I'm, like, running in my heels. We're like, go, go, go, go. And I don't get to see her. And you know how it is during the show

where you like, you want to be by your partner, you want to review things, you want to talk to you. Yes, yes. And I'm like, where's Jessie? I mean, we honestly came together maybe a few minutes before. Oh, yeah, wait, because I'm just remembering this now. When they introduced you guys as a couple? You were like, oh, where's Jesse?

I was like, oh, no, did she get sick? And then you come out in this goal. old and I was like, well, damn, that was worth the way. When did she come from? So good. Are you guys ready for next week? What do you have up your sleeve? Because by the time this airs, this will already have been out, but it's Disney, right? Disney is coming up on Monday.

Yeah. So when is this air? Tuesday. Oh, so right after. Yeah. So you will just gotten your best score yet. Our best score yet. Biggest improvement. Biggest improvement. The judges are going to praise not only Jesse, but Alan for teaching Jesse really well. Gosh. What kind of dance are you doing?

I'm thinking. It's most memorable. We're, we actually have two dances. It's a Monday Tuesday show. No, but you're asking what this week is. Yeah. For Disney. Disney is Jive. What song?

Drive is so fun. Oh, really excited. Which is because, oh. Pocus pocus. Yes. Pocus. Is this funny? We made this for Kittnish.

Like, we signed this three months ago. No way. How perfect. Oh my gosh. Yes. We're doing one way or another. Or we just did one way or another. From the movie.

Okay. Honestly, I'm like, I want to help. I'm like, I'm like, for you guys now because I'm so into this. But I'm like honestly if you want to How was your job? You have all the help you need. Oh wait. You hurt your ankle. Didn't you right before the drive? No. I hurt my ankle right before the rumba.

Oh, okay. But the drive I did on tour, the... Did you not do one on? Yeah, you did one on the show though. Yeah. I had it been a good time. It was the same one. Were you having a good time? I was having the best time. And I ended up... Do you think the drive is the hardest? Mm-mm. I think if you... It's the most fun to me.

If you just got to get so into it. Yeah. It's so fun. So hard. When you were learning it, were you like into it yet? Okay, that was actually maybe my hardest week at that point because that was the first time I like broke down and cried and what we did was this is going to sound like hell, but it really helped. We did it so we would do the dance and then we would walk around and listen to the song and like try and catch our breath and then we would do it again and then we would walk for the minute and listen to the song and then we would do it again and we did that so many times in a row and I was like out of breath every single time. then we'd walk and listen to the song and then we'd do it again and it really helped.

So if you get to that point where you're like, okay, I got the full dance. Now just do it and do it and do it and hit it so hard. Well, like on it, it's crazy. Everything she's saying is so accurate. I like have my first breakdown cry today. Yeah. I'm like, great. I never wanted to cry on camera.

I'm sorry. You had to come podcasts after. No, it's okay. But I had my first breakdown today. I'm like, I told Alan, I was just, and it's nothing Alan was doing it. It was myself going like, I am so frustrated with myself. I feel like I am never going to get this. Like, I feel like my brain is just not connecting with my body.

And it is so frustrating, especially when I'm someone who's like an overachiever. Totally. I get that. I want to do well. I want to prove to myself. I want to prove to everyone. I can do this. And I am just like, I feel like I'm not getting this.

Yeah. So I broke down. Yeah. But you know, what's funny is she broke down after she did it. It was like she just did it right. It was a fluke. It's a fluke. It's a fluke.

But she did it so well and it was like, you know, when you're pushing for it and then you get it. And then it's like a release because you got it. Yes. That was and I was like looking at like, I'm not like this is such a like a special moment because you realize that maybe it is possible even though it's really, really hard. Yeah. I think that's fair. Is that how your breakdowns were? It might have been because it was like I'm holding in all this emotion the whole time because I'm like, no, if I cry or if I break down, I'm not going to have time to get through the dance.

Like, so I just hold everything in. And then once you get it, I feel like, like you said, like this rush of emotion just comes out and it can come out in many different ways. Like, I used to joke with Artem. I'm like, I just need to go blow my nose. And every time I would go, I'd just ball my eyes out in the bathroom, blow my nose. And then he'd be like, do you need to go blow your nose right now? Because I'd be like, oh, yeah.

And then I'd go to the bathroom and just like hysterically ball and come back with like puffy eyes. Be like, ready. Oh my God. I never knew that. Yeah, I did all the time. But I would also cry on camera. But, yeah. It was the jive that sent me.

I think it's, you cry because you want it. Yeah, it's true. Like when Jesse cried today, I was like, oh, she wants this. Yeah. You care. Oh, 100%. I would not even be doing this. Yeah.

If I did not care and if I didn't not want to be here. Like, I want to be here and I want to do well. For me, it's not even like I want to perfect it. I just want to like do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want to do the dance. Yeah. Like I want to get through the dance, like perfecting at this point, I'm sorry, is like, is like secondary for me.

It's like I just want to actually know these steps before I start making it look perfect and do all the things I'm supposed to do because for me, that's hard in itself even remembering these steps. Now add on to like the perfect hands and feet and toes and ankles and hairs on my knees. Like I like, it's literally thinking it's like everything is involved. It's every little thing and I'm like, oh my gosh. It's not that I'm trying, like, I'm just not caring to. It's like, y'all, this is so hard. It is, it's really hard. I'm speaking from someone that I thought I was going to go in there and pick up things like quickly and be like a dancer. And I was like, I have to unlearn a lot of things I thought I knew about dancing or moving my body to relearn this. And it was really, really challenging. It's really hard. Okay, Yvino's. I want you to feel relaxed and refreshed in only 15 minutes, okay? I do. And you can do that when you book your smooth escape. with the wax experts at European Wax Center. And you know what smooth is what they do, so you know you can trust the Wax Experts at European Wax Center

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We will take that. Put that in the universe. Put that into the world. I really do. That's, and I have weird intuition. I really feel. I know you do.

I feel like, listen, we haven't been able to hang out that much, but I have always felt like, I don't know, some similarities to like our energies and stuff. And like I feel like you get stuff and you manifest and you see things and you like, I don't know.

We're both overachievers and good intuition and. Yeah. And do you follow the lady that does the oras? Yes. We do? Yes. Same exact oras. Oh, I could see that.

We have the same colors. It's the pink and purple. We're the same. And it's very rare. We're rare birds. You guys are rare. It is rare. Yeah, we are.

And you say Britney Spears has it as well? Brittany. She is very pink. Maryland had the same combo. Really? I like that. Look at that. Look at you guys.

It does. I feel like. I follow her. I like all the stuff she does. She's incredible. She is. She is. So the other day I was out for dinner with one of my friends that I've been friends with

forever. and he was introducing me to his new girlfriend and she was talking about the kind of person he is and she's like, has he always been like that? I'm like, yes, this is so him. And then I was like, I bet his aura colors are yellow and blue. And so I just sent a message to Mystic Michaela, showed her a picture of Mike and she goes,

oh, he's yellow and blue. And I was like, I love that. She can just see it off of a photo? Yes. Oh, yeah, you could see colors. You should send, yeah, let's send Alan's pictures. But I feel like he's blue green. I don't know.

Yeah. What do you think, Helen? I don't know. I would have to, I like looked up the colors and what they mean and then diagnosed him as a yellow and blue. I do too. I get so into it. But ours are like the exact combo because she told me that.

What's blue green? She said it is. We're the exact. Wow. We should hang out more. I know. What's blue green mean? I don't know.

It's. I can tell. I can see the colors. Okay. Really? Okay. I'm so curious then because I think you're, you could be right. And I'm going to send it to her and see.

Can you send me a baby. picture, or not baby, picture, but like a picture of yourself and you're younger. Yeah, I'll find one. Okay. Yeah. And then send it to me because she... Wait, it's only young photos? No, she just, it helps her if you have a younger photo, but she could probably just do

it. She probably already has done you in her past. She does like TV people. Oh, really? So maybe. Okay. On every podcast I do, I make my guest confess something like something really embarrassing that's happened to them, something that they're like, oh my gosh,

I haven't really shared this with anyone. I had one because after our last time, let me think about it. Dang it. Did you slip on your sweat probably and fall on your face? I did do that once before. I know. I was there. I was washing. Oh, I was talking about something else. Oh. I, like, left. I was going up for a run and I had like five steps outside. And, like, I was like stretching on the steps and I slipped and like fell down the steps. I was like, no, no, no one saw me. I ran inside. I was like, did anyone see me?

It was more embarrassing if, like, somebody saw me than actually getting hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's turning ready. So I know. Meanwhile, like, how, who falls down the steps, like stretching. Yeah. But meanwhile, I was like, hurt. You're supposed to be coordinated. I was hurt.

And I was like, I was like, as long as no one saw me, it's okay. I get that. When you're like, nobody sees and you're like embarrassed for yourself. That's not even bad. That's just like on the regular. Yeah, you need to think of what it was. And Jesse, you could tell us yours while he's waiting. I thought he already told us.

Well, yeah, I'll have more. That was his story. That was good. We'll take that. Well, a good one. Nope. No, that one is a special. That was so hard for you.

It was sure. All right. You ready for it? Ready. All right. I don't know. I'm ready for it. So recently I was doing a show.

I was on stage. And I will say this is so TMI. But after I had kids, I was the girl that was like, when I had my period before, I was one of those girls that, like, didn't even know I was about to start.

And I could have a tampon for two days. and like smalls and call it a day and it's over. After I had kids, it got really heavy, really painful where I'm going through super, super, super's. Like, I now am buying like those like cup, the cups. Like it is, I need to get myself looked at

to see what's going on. Again, same page. I'm going through a hormone specialist right now if you need her. Well, I probably do because it's not normal what's going on with me. I just haven't had time to deal with it. But it is like crazy. And hormonally, it's just like every time it's like what is going on with me. Yes, I am a, I,

viral the lore. Yes. Yeah. For sure. Alan got to witness that last week. So it wasn't even that bad. It wasn't, but I was holding back. So I'm on stage. It's like day two for me of my period. And I am in these leather shorts. And I am singing and it's like Eric's their sideline. I'm performing. Well, I hit a note. And I feel the gushing begin. Oh, no. And I knew in that moment if I did not run off stage it was going to be like everywhere everywhere yeah yeah so in the moment i'm like what am i going to do like how do i leave an audience because it was at a fair festival thing where it was like gosh 20 000 30 000 people i'm like what am i going to do so i say um eric come out to the stage i know it's always been your dream to sing along to um what was it a bon jovie dead or alive Is that like his karaoke song? Yes, and he was like, what? And he comes to the stage and I whispered his ear and I'm like, I'm bleeding.

I must go to the bathroom right now. Please just like stand here and he's like, oh, okay. So I'm running off stage. It is pouring out of me. That's so sad. The super had washed right through. Falling out. Oh, no.

And thank the Lord. I ran off when I did and I handled my. It was so embarrassing. I, like, was so, like, I wanted to cry, but I didn't. And I ran back out there to Eric going, I can't keep this going much longer. He's, like, taking the drumstick and hitting it. And he's just looking at those audiences like, woo, dude. And I was like, all right. And then I, like, in the moment, was like, they probably are wondering why the heck I left. So I was like, you guys, I'm sorry. And I, I lied. But I was like, I thought my pants had busted open so I went to wardrobe to make sure I wasn't going to tell 30,000 people

that I, you know, you could tell was one's knees away from a disaster. So I've been there. That's so scary, especially because you were on stage. Like that's already scary if you're freaking at the grocery store, let alone on stage in front of that many people. The pain and the fear of like, oh my God. So anyway, that's my story. I'm so sorry.

And it was awful. Thank you for sharing. Yes. I was so grateful. I shared. Well, like, still, falling down those stairs was really embarrassed. That's what I was like sitting here looking at you.

Like, cool, you fell down the stairs. You fell down three stairs, not in front of anybody. Great. Oh, I'm so sorry. But that's, you know what? A lot of women could not relate to being on stage in front of a lot of people, but they can relate. Being in a public scenario where it's like, it was bad.

Oh, yeah. Good thing Eric was there with his drumstick. Yeah. He was just. Save the day. I can't keep it. Yeah. That's amazing.

Good for you, Jesse. Good for you for carrying on. Also, I've had a lot of guests on here that have confessions. That was maybe up there for one of my favorites. Yeah, that's a good one. That's the kind of content we were looking for today. So thank you for being it. Alan?

I can't top that. Yeah, you can't. You don't have anything like from on stage. I mean, I know you've fallen and whatever, but every little Schartzky or anything? No, okay, fine. Okay, just a couple questions from listeners before I let you go. Okay. They're so funny.

They said, who would you want to do a trio dance with him? Why is it Kaylin? Okay, we're going to skip that one. I just have to say it out of. If you wanted, okay, question, because they've done this before, we once did a trio where it was a past celebrity. Like, there would be one celebrity in our dance. And not just from the season.

It was like any season. Actually, it wasn't even celebrities from the show. Like, me and Alexis did it with Maddie Ziegler. What? Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, that was great. Let's just say from the cast on this. Yeah, yeah.

If we did a trio, who would you want to dance with? Changela. Yeah. Yep. That's who I just love Changela. Yeah. I agree with that one. Okay.

What are you both looking forward to getting out of this season? It's a real question. Getting out alive. Honestly, I just, I think what I want to get out of it is continuing to feel proud that I, like, made it through something that was really hard. because this is really hard. Yeah. I'm going to say it's not really about me. It's I want Jesse to feel like that that confidence of like I can do something in

no time, learn something, feel good about it and perform in front of. Yeah. I mean, you've already done it. Yeah, you got this. But like, but that confidence of like the only reason it's happening is because of you. So like when you realize that, it's a very powerful thing. Yeah. Yeah.

That's nice. I'm a nice guy. Someone wants to know, Alan, how much you stay in touch with past partners. So it depends on the partner, but me and Amanda are very close. Oh, yeah, you guys are like besties. Have you met Amanda yet? Yeah, she's the show too, you know. Yeah, she's the sweetest.

I was going to maybe come Monday, but I don't think I'm going to be done podcasting and time. Finish podcasting and time. And maybe I'll try, actually, because when I saw the Kardashians in the audience, I was like, damn it, I want to be at that one. Why wasn't I there? Why wasn't I at that one? Did you get to meet Courtney? I didn't even see her.

I didn't even know if she was there. Really? You know what? It's because you were going to be there. You're getting gold. Golded up. That's true. You're being gold.

Do you think you have been fairly judged so far this season? This comes from a listener because she doesn't agree that you have. Well, thank you for supporting us. Yeah. I know it's hard to say because it's a TV show. Well, you know, I think it's difficult because we are going to keep improving every single week. I think as long as the audience has our back and keeps rooting for us, we appreciate that. and we want to obviously improve enough for the judges to notice.

Yeah. So it's. Well, that was something that Artem told me when we were, when I was a little sad because Carrie Ann was really hard on me. I don't know if you remember that. I was just going to bring it up. The judges were tough on you.

And he was like, this is a good thing because when you're someone like, and I'm not trying to dog on Charlie, but like you want to see improvement through from the judges too. And when you keep getting high scores, you're like, where do you go from there? Yeah.

Where do you go from there? And that's what Artem kept telling me. And I think that's, yeah. I remember with even Amanda, like, the judges were extremely tough. And I think that's, I think they're, they're being tough because they want to see you excel the same way I do. Yep. And, but it would be nice to be like, hey, Jesse has improved. Yeah.

Because she has. Well, Derek said it. Yeah. Like, I, so I really do appreciate that. Yeah. Because it's, she's really like working harder than I could even. expect her to work. Which is so nice to have as a partner too.

No, I love it. Yeah. And so I just want to be there like, no, you are doing a good job. Like, you got this. Yeah. That's, I feel like I've seen a lot of support for you guys online too. So thank you guys. Yeah.

Which is so nice. And honestly, like, it, I don't know. I don't want to say that it was surprising. But it's like when you're so in the moment, you don't think about the outside of it all. Yeah. It's been really sweet. No, I was surprised. I was very surprised when I went on.

from the positive feedback. I thought it, I was like, oh, here we go again on the internet and here come the bullies. I think that's what that's what I'm saying is like, I was expecting that because sometimes I get that. And so I was like, but they've been so kind. And I think it's because you can just, maybe they can tell like, this is really hard for me. And I don't be even harder on me about it. I can't take double the heat. I do think they see like, oh, this is hard for her.

They see improvements because improvements are evident. It's hard to like root for someone who. who's already like a 10, gorgeous, a great singer, has a hot husband, a beautiful family. And you're like, okay, fine. She does struggle at something. I'm going to root for her. That's why I feel. Well, somebody asked, how do you deal with online trolls and block out the noise?

I, you know, what's funny is I feel like I get asked that more than a lot of people. Can I feel like everyone that is in our entertainment business deals with it? I get a lot of trolls. But I think it's because you are vulnerable and you put yourself out there so they feel like comfortable sharing a lot of like, not nice things, but I think, you know, we have to realize we're all human beings and it's just, it's still hurt. And I am so tenderhearted that it does still hurt my feelings. I've been doing this forever. I've been in this business forever and it still hurts my feelings. But I think I have to step back and realize no one that is happy trolls people. And so it makes me sad that so many people

are so unhappy that they feel the need to do that. And I just continue to have sympathy for that that kind of pain to want to put that on me. Yeah, I agree. I think that's what I always remind myself to is like, those people can't be happy. And then I, and then I try to see trolls sometimes from a place with like empathy where I'm like, oh, they're sad.

Like, those people are really sad. But it is true. Like, no one wakes up like and wants to go on a message board and just rip someone all day long unless they're unhappy like that. It can't be a good use of time. Yeah. And also it's just, I don't know. That's like their fulfillment or something.

Well, it's that saying hurt people, hurt people. And it's true. And it's so true. You know, that's what people do. And some people just do it on the internet and it's terrible. I mean, they said, what does your week schedule look like? But I don't even just, you know. Yeah.

I mean, you probably, how much sleep are you getting? And also, when is your birthday? People 12. Oh, I thought maybe you were a Gemini and a cancer like me. You're a Gemini. Yeah. Are you a cancer? I'm a Gemini, but I'm right on the cusp and I relate to a lot of cancer things.

And my son and moon is cancer. So I'm like a sassy, sensitive, human. Yeah. I'm just sensitive. Well, Gemini. That's cancer. Gemini's spicy. You're both.

You're hot and cold. You're hot and cold. Yeah. Yeah. Do you see it? Yep. Yeah. Yep.

That's, I, I'm a problem child. You are a problem child. But you, at least you're not, you're self-aware. First step. First step. Self-aware. Okay. Well, tell everyone how they can.

and vote for you. Yes. Easy text. Jesse to 21523 and vote at Disneyplus.com slash vote. Wait, let me also get this out there. Not that I have, I don't think people 50 plus listen to this podcast, but the people complaining about it being on Disney Plus is so silly to me because I'm like, how much are you paying for your cable?

Like, cut down your cable, get Disney Plus, and then you get to like have so many other shows out of that. I know. I guess it's frustrating for people that are older for sure because it's just like you don't, it's, it's hard to adjust to. Yeah. But I think for me, we already had Disney Plus. Yeah. Because I have kids. So for me, I was just like, cool. Yeah. I don't have kids. I have Disney Plus. I don't have to figure out cable now.

Right. I don't think. I don't even know. I don't think I've automatically have cable. I've never had cable. Really? Well, as an adult, I've never had cable. Well, I'm going to cancel mine. I had it because I was like, well, I should watch The Bachelor. But now you can watch it on Hulu the next morning. And I just feel like everyone, eventually every show I think is going to switch over. So everyone should just cancel their cable. Get Disney. plus text. What is it? Watch us on Disney Plus. Two, two, three. I don't remember. It's the same number. I don't remember. 215.23. Text Jesse.

to that number. Support us. Ten times. Ten times on any device. We really do see the the positive feedback from everyone and it helps. Of course. I'm so great before. I mean, it's because of them. I'm still rocking. Yeah, absolutely. People are rooting for you guys. I see it. I pay attention to what people are saying and they are. They're rooting for you. And I'm, um, I'm, Sending you all the positive vibes. Thank you.

All the good luck. You're going to do great. Two sevens, two eights for the jive. Yes. I love it. If you have any questions about the jive, don't come to me. I'm Caitlin Bristow.

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