Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Jillian Harris: Big Wine Guys & Big Hot Dog Girls

Episode Date: July 4, 2023

The two Canadian Bachelorettes, Jillian Harris and KB, are together at Jill’s house in Kelowna where the birds are chirpin’, the wine is flowin’, and the Big Wine Guy event is in full swing. It’s a special one because all the Vinos get to listen in on this event where Kaitlyn and Jillian talk about the future of the franchise, hit-or-miss TikTok trends, and test their wine knowledge. Jillian explains the hilarious yet accurate Hot Dog Theory that earned her a spot on the franchise and still holds up when they test the theory live on this podcast. Then, they’re taking questions from those on Zoom; Jillian keeps things real per usual as she opens up about how she sets boundaries to live an authentic life, what sex and marriage look like after having kids, and what Justin thinks about her baring it all for her followers. Trust us when we say, this is a fun friend catchup/ketchup you won’t want to miss! Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: JUST THRIVE - Right now, you can save 20% off the dynamic duo bundle of Just Thrive probiotic and Just Calm when you go to JustThriveHealth.com and use code VINE at checkout. ANGI - Your home for everything home.  PROGRESSIVE - Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive. All the fly. One sided, like, one, two, three, clap. Okay, ready? One, two, three. It was not at the same time. It was, okay. One, two, three.

That was good. We did it. We did it. Are we, so we're recording? Okay, amazing. Okay. I think we just want to see us closer. Yeah, I just want to see myself. Can I need a mirror? I need a full-leg mirror. I'm just kidding. I'm going to go behind you the whole time at the mirror.

That's so Lowe. One of my really good friends from L.A., he went on a date, and there was, like, a mirror behind him. And the guy he was on a date with just kept, like, looking at himself in the mirror while he was talking. That would be me. Oh. That would have been looking at myself the whole time. Well, there's a mirror behind. Yeah, I love myself more than that person. I did.

You just met that person. I know, I've known me. I'm like, hey, I'm familiar. I've known myself my whole life. Maybe Lowe's the narcissist. You was expecting him to pay attention to him the whole time. It's like familiar person, non-familiar person. Like, yeah, I don't blame him.

And he also was probably was like, how do I look? Do you have something in my teeth? Like, you want to make sure he looked for him. He was just being self-conscious. Yeah. A little self-conch moment. So like we told you guys, but we needed to, we need to say it for the audio. Oh.

We're in Kelona. We're at Jill's house. And I feel like you're the perfect guest to have for this. So for those listening, maybe you're watching on YouTube, maybe you're listening. Well, you put this everywhere, hey? Jason's not calling you right now. Well, answer it. Okay.

Answer it. Hi. Hey, how's it all right? Okay, so we're filming you're live in front of a lot of people right now because my big wine guy, Zoom, we're letting them in on the podcast. I'm podcasting with Jill right now. Hi, Jason. Oh, like right now? Right now.

It's one of my favorites you put the damn planet. How are? That's true. He really does like you. I'm great. That's like so nice. Yeah. You are.

Where are you guys? We're at Jill's house. Are you guys discussed? Oh, that is awesome. Yeah. We're outside. What are we talking about? Well, we just got started and then I forgot to turn my ringer off and you called and I was like, oh, okay.

Let's roll with it. All right. Some topics of conversation. What are we going to hit us? I don't know. What's the hot goss? What's in the news? these days.

What you guys think about the future of the franchise. What they've done wrong since the days you two released the chart and ratings on the charts. Okay. Let's see. Gillian's take on TV versus social media. I don't like any of it.

Actually, no, those are good topics you start with. Those are good. We should go back to like the horse and carriage days where we all make our own bread and, like, trade fur for... Trade fur. For bread, basically. Great idea. You're so professional and you're so good at video content.

Oh. God. God. I'm also good at making bread and fur. I'm good at making bread and fur. Sometimes when you're good at something, it might not make you happy. Yeah, that's true. You know, like, I'm really good at...

Being about being depressed. Yeah. I'm not happy. What? Even if your community... Even if, like, okay, anyone out there, whether I always go back to business, but it's mental necessity, it's cooking, it's farming, whatever it is, like, getting involved in building a community is, like, it's possible. Even if you're building a community is too-to-three people, it could change your life.

Right. And we threw back to the building communities. That's true. Well, we love, that's because we genuinely like people. People. Yeah. Well, supportive people. Yeah.

And we like supportive people. Okay, Jay, I'll call you back. And we like having a good time. Yeah. Have fun. Okay, bye. Nice. Nice little surprise.

Yeah. See, we're not broken up. Oh, people think that? Oh, my God. Everybody thinks that, yeah. Oh, my gosh. See, there's proof.

He just called. And it was like planned. I'm like, called during the podcast. Just kidding. Call me out 440. What was I saying? That was like an AI. You just typed that in.

Yeah. Use his voice. You and him. Yeah, it was even him. You can do that these days. That's freaky. That is freaky. I forget what I was saying.

Oh, for people watching, listening. Hello, but for for Caitlin, come on. Jojo just text me now. What's going on? Oh, my gosh. It's just coming in hot today. For those listening or watching on YouTube, then you will get this little backstory. So usually I do a big wine guy Zoom every three months.

If you're part of my wine club, we hang out, drink wine, be really funny. Sometimes we cry, sometimes we laugh, all the things. And we wanted to switch it up. So I said they need to see a live recording of the podcast because so many things, we have to edit out or it's inappropriate or I say something or you say something where later we go, okay, we don't want to get canceled for that.

So anyways, yeah, we're going to talk about what Jason had a good idea. Yeah. I would like to know where you think the Bachelor franchise is heading if it's going in the right direction, the wrong direction, if you even watch anymore. So I don't watch anymore, not because I'm not interested, because I am interested, but I just cannot stay awake past 8 o'clock. Oh, fair enough. Like I'm so tired of night.

And then everybody's like, oh, film it. But then when I'm like, I can't watch it during the day because I'm either working or with the kids or gardening or something. So, but also, I don't know about everybody else. I feel like it has the energy of the Bachelor franchise fizzled down a little bit. But I will say something is that Chris leaving the show, I understand what happened and when it happened. Like, I understand that. But I feel like they just replaced him with like another Chris. Oh, well, they replaced him with me first.

And then they're like, no, we don't like women. and so then they replace him with another Chris. So I'm like, why? So I have a hard time watching it when it's not Chris. I'm like, who is this guy? What's his, Jesse? Jesse Palmer. Yeah, I'm sure a nice guy or whatever, but it just seems strange.

Yeah. And I'm just like, if you're going to let go of the guy because of the reasons you let him go, then why not bring somebody in. Yeah, go totally different. That is more representative of the reason why you let Chris go. I was thinking the same thing. Like, what's the point? You just, it's the same.

You know who I really wanted to host it is Michael Strayhan. Yeah, like, there you go. He would have been the perfect host. But I don't know if that's necessarily a job that everybody's... I don't know. Hey, light on set, cars. We're trying to record a podcast here. I'll shut down the street next time.

But anyhow, that's my one big takeaway, but I have not gotten through a full season with Jesse. He may be great. Is he? He's good at his job. It's just exactly what you said. You're just saying this because you're close with him in the franchise? I actually love Jesse outside of the franchise.

I never going to ask me to do anything ever again. No, I love him outside of the franchise. I do think he's just Chris Harrison 2.0 exact same hand gestures, everything, and I would have liked the little... Change up. If you're going to change it up, change it up. Especially for the reason.

Do you think Chris feels the same way? I don't know. So I saw him at the Kentucky Derby, and I did his podcast, and I don't really ever know it. I think he doesn't want to talk about it. He doesn't want to talk about it? Yeah, he's over it.

He's done. I think he's actually kind of angry at the franchise. Right. yeah which is fair um but where is it going i don't know is somebody else tell me what do you think well i don't know because it feels like and maybe we should ask all the big wine guys what they think because to me it's just what we have loved about the show for so long is that it's the same format it's consistent we love it and we know what we're getting but i i really do think people are sick of it because there's so many other dating shows now like love is blind and all these Netflix ones where you can you don't have to

wait to monday you can binge it they're more relatable people on those shows and I feel like it's just a more interesting concept where the bachelor we're like, oh my gosh, of course somebody's girlfriend is coming in from home. Of course they're going to have this person be the drama and we kind of all now know how it's edited where we don't even trust that a villain is a villain anymore. We're like, the villain's probably just getting a bad edit. Right. And so it just... And is this true that they're actually doing like a geriatric bachelor? Yeah.

They're actually doing an old part bachelor. Yeah, old fart bachelor. And when's that going to start to air? I don't know. But I know they already have their bachelor. Like he's already... Am I getting in trouble for saying that? Like, I don't know these days, what you can say, but you can say.

But like, if I would be... I would be... I'm just kidding. I mean, I would be, if I went on there, I'd be, okay, geriatric. When I got pregnant, they told me I was having a geriatric pregnancy, and that's, I was 36 years old. Oh, my God. What is the age to be considered geriatric?

Like 35 or something. I think like 32 or 33. Yeah. 32 or 33? He moved it up. Oh, I'm like, I'm on my deathbed trying to have a baby. Oh, my gosh. But I think that will be different.

I think people, I think the people who were the original bachelor people are getting older. And the new generation wants something different. Yeah, and also, well, yeah, and like the contestants are staying the same age as we were. They're in their 20s, but we're getting older. I think we want to see people like us now. That's true. I don't know. I always watch and go, oh, these people are just so young.

But that makes, you know, them very easy to manipulate by producers because they're young and down, just like we were. I think that you're, I think if it's your first time going on TV, you're so oblivious to the whole thing that you're just going to be done regardless. That's, I was looking because it was 2009 when you were a bachelorette and the first Canadian, only two Canadians have been the bachelorette and Jill didn't like me at first, but I think everyone knows that. No, you didn't. I'd like you. I just was threatened. Threatened. Very long.

Yeah. I just, everybody's like, oh, you're going to love her. She's just like you. I was like, like me. How could you be as cool as me? And then when we hung out, I was like, oh, fuck, she is as cool as me. But, you know, I like when you haven't met somebody, when you've met somebody and they say they're just like you, you're like, you're like, Caitlin, they're just like you. I'd be like, no. It's not that I didn't like you. I just didn't know you could be this cool. That's fair enough. Because the second we hung out. Yeah. Oh, God, it was like sisters from the same province. We're the same people. We're the same people. We're the same. people um okay so a few big moments okay from 2009 oh my god bring us back to the times okay if you're feeling a little stress lately i feel you i'm right there with you but i have a little life hack for you you can beat stress before it beats you by adding just two products into your daily routine and i'm talking about pairing the award winning gut nourishing just thrive probiotic with the stress busting mood uplifting power of JustCom. Just Thrive probiotic supports digestive, immune, and total body health and actually produces antioxidants right in the gut. For next level stress management, I pair

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immune health products, all with the bottom of the bottle guarantee. The Hannah Montana movie hit theaters when you were The Bachelorette. That was that long ago? Yeah. Modern Family aired their first episode. Oh. Wait, that actually doesn't seem like that long ago. I am geriatric.

Kanye West interrupted Taylor Swift in 2009. This feels like ancient, ancient times. Jersey Shore premiered. No. Uber technology. Can't leave my diaper. Uber technology was founded in 2009. Wow, that seems like yesterday.

but can't be right. Where did I get that fact? People didn't even have cell phones back then, did they? I don't know. I don't believe that. You can do BuzzFeed quiz on like... The technology, the technology was there, but it probably didn't launch until years later. Yeah.

So times have changed, is what I'm saying. And did you see Charity's promo for her season? Yes, kind of half of a, yes. A true queen. Well, I couldn't stop staring at her when she was on my podcast. So beautiful. I couldn't stop staring at her. She was, like, talking, and I was like, do me a favor.

Okay. And look at Charity's promo and my promo side by side, one after the other. Oh. It is atrocious. I don't even think I got a promo. They were just, like, too bad so that's. Right. You had the two.

You choose. Yeah. Okay, but look, I was looking through YouTube to see if I could find any clips of your season. And I found your night one on Jason's season where you present the hot dog. The hot dog theory? Yeah. Let's watch, Holly. This, yeah, let's watch it.

It's, it's just an ad right now. Are you going to play it on the thing? I'm going to play it on the thing, but it's just getting through an ad. Oh, you know, watching yourself, you're so annoying. I love watching myself when I was younger. Watching myself now, I'm like, no, but I like watching. His sweet, savvy, boldly goes where no savvy girls has gone before. Today's topic, we'reners.

I remember this girl, she was too. Just dial back then, too. Oh, I don't know. Okay. She feels in something. Get to the wiener. Yeah. Well, she's got a great intro.

Some are big. Some come with that little bendy thing in the middle. But what you probably didn't know is that you can find out just about everything you need to know about a guy by looking at his wiener. Oh, that was it, Ed's House. Oh, my God. We're going to talk about the most important thing we have. I shouldn't say Ed's House. for that.

Do you do one? Okay. I'll kind of show you to think we're running here. Seriously. She's cute. How are you to go? She's either doing you with a hot dog winner. Look at my belt.

I messes out. You usually. Oh my God. It's such a little. Okay, wait. I'm just going to. You actually get out of a limel. I thought that's what I was.

Oh, no. I know what you're looking for. Okay. Wait, I need out. What is the hot dog theory? Okay, so here's how it started. As when I was single before the Bachelor, The Bachelor.

Me and my friend Carol Kelly, she would, you would love her. She's such a hoot. We, like, just could not find a guy to save our life. Yeah. We would actually, like, summer ended, still no guy. So we're like, okay, October's long, November dung. Like, we're going to find a wiener. Like, we've got to get laid.

Please say that line one more time. October's long, November dong. I'm obsessed. Like, I'm like, Kay, it's been like three years since I've gotten late. Like, there's got to be somebody that wants to be with me. It was just very difficult. Like, I don't know. Anyhow. So we were on the prowl.

We were on the prowl. We weren't also a good pair either because we were very obnoxious at the bar. So I met a guy one night and we were going back to my place or his place. And we stopped at like the hot dog thing. And he got just ketchup on his dog. And I was like, just ketchup. Like there's so many good toppings. Like you could have mustard, sourcote, like raw onions.

And I started to analyze him. I'm like, he is just a ketchup guy. Like so boring. So fucking predictable. The great thing about a ketchup guy, he will always, like, remember your birthday. He'll never cheat. Consistent, great, but like, wah, wah. So then I started thinking, like, oh, my gosh, think about the other guys, like a sauerkraut guy.

Like, a sauerkraut guy is like, he's going to burp, he's going to fart, because he's so exciting. But, like, also probably never clean up after himself, whatever, but also be so you're going to love him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like sourcrow, but it gives you heartburn. Right. Right. this um yeah if you go through all of them like raw onions mustard you think about that guy so you think like the ideal guy would probably be mustard guy because a little bit spicy but a little bit like

like like basic like you understand mustard it's in every household but it's still kind of exciting i am a raw onion guy girl like i go for the raw onions yeah i go for the raw onions but they always break my heart, they're undependable, their heartburn, they're sour. So I, my goal in life was to find a mustard guy, like, which is Justin. Justin's excited, a bit spicy, yeah, yeah. He's a bit spicy, but still, like, reliable. He's in my fridge. Like, he's there all the time. I can rely on that. So I was going to write this book called The Hot Dog Theory about all these guys I dated and, like, what topping they were? Why did you not do this? I got busy and life went on. There's still time. I was going to do an app. I was going to do an app where you, okay, you're at the bar. You're at the bar and

you go and ask the guy what they put it on their hot dogs and you put it in the app and then there's like a background thing that tells you if he's a winner or not that is so funny if you're a good match yeah i was going to do that but didn't that's too well now i'm going to steal it yeah you should i'm just kidding wait that's so genius so you told that girl in the interview wait is that how you came out of the limo yeah so that was like there was two reasons why i got on the bachelor one was that the hot dog theory and the other was a really nasty joke and And they were like, okay, you're hired. It was like the nastiest joke ever.

I think they knew you were going to be the Bachelorette from day one. No. Mike Fleiss did not like me. Me either. He didn't like me. Yeah, he thought it was annoying. He tried to get me to take speech therapy so that it didn't sound like a Canadian. Yeah, he didn't like that I sounded Canadian.

He didn't like that I had tattoos. He didn't like that I was short and raspy and not sexy. Yeah, he didn't like that I had piercings and that he said my bangs were too long. and that they needed to be shorter so that it wasn't so, I wasn't so harsh looking. Is he around or is he in jail or where's he now? Oh, my God. Oh, Abby.

Hot dog. Gosh. Wow. Are you kidding me? You guys. What are the cheez-its for? Michelle's hungry. Wow.

This is incredible. I'm not eating carbs right now, but I will have a hot dog. You're not eating carbs right now? Just today. I just want to see if it's going to help with my exhaustion and it's helping. Look at me. Ooh.

You're always like busy. Wait, so what are we doing here? You're testing my theory. I want it all. It doesn't work for girls. Oh. Is there any men here? Any men in the chat?

Anybody's husband? Can anybody's husband come in for a second? And don't tell them. Don't tell them what's up. Just tell us. Just tell them to pick what, not if they could just have one, but what is their favorite hot dog topping? It smells so good.

And then we'll make it. I don't eat it. Oh, there we go. Up top. Okay. What's your name? What's his favorite hot dog topping? I can already tell. He is an onion. He's an onion mustard guy. No, come on. I need to see him closer. Sir, can you come closer to camera. I can tell. Stacey. Yeah. Oh, it's Stacy, or it could be pronounced stackey. Oh, he's cute. Oh, he might be a ketchup mustard. I think he's ketchup, mustard, relish onions. He likes everything. He's, he's a little bit of everything. What's his name? That's not way too much. Oh, shoot. What, okay, what do you, what's your name? Cash, and if you're, if you're a Cleveland person, we're from Ballpark mustard.

Ballpark mustard. Where's in Cleveland? Did you say Cleveland? Did you say Cleveland? Yeah. Oh, I love, I love Ohio. I got judged so bad in Chicago for putting ketchup on my hot chocolate. Yeah. So, so if you, wait. If you could only have one, what would it be? Mustard? Yeah. Okay. That's nice.

So you're spicy. You piss her off sometimes, but you're dependable. You remember her birthday? You mowed the lawn. That kind of stuff. Okay? Good. I like it.

So your theory is not only funny. It's also correct. That's correct. I can't. There's more research that needs to go into this theory. And it's been a long time. You know what? Once you write the book, you'll have all the research because you'll have to.

Writing a book is a big job. Well, you just did your cookbook. Yeah, and also I'm working on another one. Another book? Another cookbook? Can you tell us? I can't say anything. Shut up, really?

But you guys, you can put, you can, I don't think the deal signed. Wait. There is another book coming. So you really can't tell us? Oh, oh, I hate when it does that. Oh, sick. It's delicious. It's like watering mustard.

I don't say anything. Abby's like shaking your head. Oh, she's saying no. It's a book. Okay, it's a book It's a book and it's not a cookbook Actually, there's two more A Hot Dog Theory

There's two more books coming Okay, yeah, you're busy Two more books coming, yeah Wait, you're really busy The Hot Dog Theory might be in that one I don't know Okay, you can tell me later That's fair enough

You use your imagination Really? Well, that cookbook So that isn't out yet, right? When can people get the cookbook? The cookbook is coming out in August And then there'll be another one next year.

oh, September. Oh, really? September. And then there might be another one next year and then maybe one the next year. Wow, good for you. And then I will rest in peace. Yeah. You need to, I always think I'm busy and then I just look at your life and I go, okay, I'm not doing enough. You are. No. Have you seen the TikTok trend that's happening all over right now with people eating sausage, cottage, cottage, cottage, mustard, and chicken? Oh, that sounds like apple sausage. It's a new health trend. Apple sausage, cottage, cottage, cottage, cheese, Mustard? No. You haven't seen that? I don't go on TikTok.

You don't? No. Oh. I know that's the team. Wait. Did I post that? Must me? Wait, you don't go on TikTok?

Not really. I'm too old for it. No, you're not. Yes. How old are you? Forty-three. The age limits 40. After 40, you can't be on TikTok.

That's not true. I'm just kidding. That's your own theory. I try, but I haven't gotten into it. I can't really get into TikTok. I'm still on Facebook. So you've never done like a trend, a TikTok trend. I have only because the team has brought it to my attention.

Oh, because I'm going to do one with you. Well, let's do it. Oh, okay. You want to make sausage and cat of cheese. What is it? Sausage, cottage cheese, mustard, and what? It's cottage cheese, mustard, chicken and apple sausage. I love it.

Like, just plain chicken? Yeah. Holy shit. Who are these people? I don't know, but... It must be so jacked. Have you seen that kangaroo meme? Yeah.

It's like that fucking kangaroo. That's what those people are going to look like if they eat that everyday cheese is Christ. That's like Alex over here, her husband. husband is, he's on a protein pick. Is he at the worst toots? Yes, those people are for sure farting their way to the bathroom. Like, oh.

I've interviewed people from Big Brother and they, you know how they have to eat slop sometimes, but what slop is, is just protein powder and oatmeal. Why do they have to eat that? That's like a punishment. If you lose something, you have to just eat slop for a full week and take cold showers. No. And sleep in like, yeah, and they said

that everyone in the house that goes on the protein slop is just farting. all the time like the worst kind of farts i would like to try it but so the people are doing it to be healthy like they're like it's yeah it's a new health trend okay literally anything could be healthy these days like you literally could or literally anything can be unhealthy these days like v like it like it doesn't matter they're like oh don't grow your own food because there can be worms in it i remember like Alex and i were talking about this earlier in the car i was like i'm stressed out

because i'm always doing something where it's like well that causes cancer or this is this or this is bad for you. And I'm like, but I like putting chemicals on my face. Let me have useful skin. We're all going to the same place around the same time, give or take a few years. We're all going to the same place. I'll see you there. Yeah, see you there. That's the only way I can accept dogs dying is thinking that I will see them again in wherever I am. Oh, you think they're going to be up there? Yeah. They're going to be wherever that is. Maybe it may be right here. We're going to know. I'm trying to die. That is where we're. A couple of bitches. Right in the dog heaven. I feel like that's where I belong.

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Wait, like this? Yeah. With a regular razor? It doesn't do anything when you go this way. Yes, it does. The blades are this way. No, it does something. I'll show you on TikTok later.

I will. A lot of those things are not real. You try them and you're like, that's a lie. Some of them are, you're right, like putting the chicken wing in your mouth and be able to pull it out, like without chewing, lie. Yeah, there was something to that, oh, this is how you cut your pineapple

when you like bang it and then you pull out the pieces I tried that that does not work that's true TikTok is a bit of a liar or like you take the garlic and you put it in a mason jar

you shake it up and down and all of a sudden the garlic out of his peel does it work I was like raging like leh and nothing is still in its peel

no okay you want to take a breath yes I'm going to switch gears for a second because something I love about you

is that you're so busy but you always make time for people that you really love yeah which obviously like your close friends and family yeah it can be small mighty yeah you always make time for me always but i had a question what boundaries have you set so that you can continue to be that person who always shows up for the people you love i honestly think that is the one thing i should i'm most proud of in the last year even before so basically when i had annie i was like i'm not working fridays and i'm hardcore about that not chope you ruined our first podcast you did this the

first podcast, Cindy? He just wants a hot dog. Just give the poor... I was going to say, can we give him a little bit of a hot dog? Yeah. Okay, there you go. I know this is what you want.

There you go. Okay, now go lay down. So I started taking off Fridays and I was super hardcore about it. Like, no, I wouldn't even like make an appointment. Like, not only will I not work, but like, when you know when people are like, hey, maybe we can get together for a glass of coffee or whatever. I'm not making any plans on Fridays. Well, except with you.

Family. Family. But, like, very, very picky about my. Fridays and now I'm I think I'm really good I think I'm really strong with my boundaries like my time boundaries yeah so yes Thursdays and Fridays off in the summer I don't work evenings anymore very rarely weekends are kind of wishy-washy because my business kind of relies on my life so if you so like I always say like if you see me doing a story and I'm having fun I'm still working because in reality I wish I didn't have to film it and post it right I'd rather just not have my phone

and just be having fun and not be thinking I have to post it is part of your business it's kind of part of my business so so I want to get better about that boundary like just not having my phone at certain times but then the evenings and weekends is kind of like where I build my business yeah time time no that's really good and and we were um trying to schedule some things and you won't let work get in the way of your time with the kids yeah because we we were going to do this on Friday. Yeah. And I'm like, it's literally my day with the kids.

Like, we should do it another day. Thank you for pivoting. Oh, I pivot. Yeah. That's what I do. I kid it a lot. Yeah. Oh, gosh.

Everywhere. I'll pivot in my schedule. I'm going on the road. I can pivot. Pivoting queens. Pivoting queens, we are. That's so funny. Yeah, that's Leo and Annie are upstairs and they're journaling right now.

Yeah, they're in training. Are you freaking kidding? Only because they're with their nanny. If they were with me, they'd be probably drinking. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding.

That's hilarious. They're so sweet. Yeah, they're cute. They're so cute. Leo, it's hilarious. Okay. What is your favorite family activity to do with the kids? Because you, sometimes I'll see you, like, picking cherries from your own cherry tree,

and then other times you're, like, farming flowers, and other times you do. Like, you do such unique things, like, wholesome things. No, my favorite thing to do with the kids is going to the arcade. Oh, really? I love, there's a place here called Scandia. Oh, I've been. Yeah. And it's been there since I was born.

They have, like, some of the same games. And then, like, you get the tickets. And then you can hoard all the tickets. And then you can get, like, a shittiest ass prize ever. Like, literally, you'll spend, like, $100 and you'll get, like, something that cost a dollar. Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, instead of going to Scandia, let's just go to the toy store and spend $50. Right.

But I love going to the arcade with them because it's fun for me. It's fun for them. Do you ever have a mini golf? Mini golf, yeah, it's fun. Like, yeah. That was one of my, remember we were talking about my ex-boyfriend, Jessica. That was where we went on a date once when I was, oh, God, hell does that when I dated him, like 24, maybe, 23. Yeah.

He took me to Scandia. Really? Yeah. What do you love to do with your niece and nephews? Oh, my gosh. Just be silly. Yeah. I like just hanging out.

They've been, like, dancing and being silly. I'm curious if it will be that way when you have, or if you have kids, when and if, like, you want you. I want, of course. Because I was so fun before I became a mom. And I still think I am fun. Like, I throw parties for them and whatnot. But Justin is the cool parent. Yeah.

And I'm the mean parent. And I'm like, I'm the one that plans the trips to Disney. I planned that party yesterday. They'll appreciate it later. Okay. Yeah. Kids don't know how to, they don't know anything else. You're just taking care of them.

It's a thankless job. Like, of course, dads were funny. He's mowing the lawn. He's moving the lawn. And then taking them to McDonald's. Yeah. No, he's even colder than that. He was like, I don't know.

He doesn't go to McDonald's because he's vegan. Oh, he's vegan? He's like pescatarian. He would never take the kids from McDonald's. That's, I was pesiccicot. Pescicatarian? I was pescatarian for five years. Right.

I think I remember that part of you. And sometimes people on the internet are really mean when they see that. I know that you're not, yeah. And I get that. I've clearly fallen off the wagon too since I just ate a half of a hot dog and they're not veggie dogs. Oh, I thought they were. I honestly thought they were veggie dogs.

They're not. I don't. That's okay. They are all beef, though, I think. Oh, great. Gras fed. No, we're from Costco. Oh. I love Costco.

Me too. We love Costco. Okay. We've got a lot of moms that listen to the podcast, but I bet there are some big wine guy moms here, too. So we're going to take some questions from some big wine guys. How are we doing this, Alex? I've got some questions. Oh, amazing.

Okay. Where's your wine? That's where I can. You're drinking? Of course. You know me. I'm not going to put this to waste Question, do you guys have watermelon there?

Have you ever tried watermelon and mustard? Watermelon and mustard, I heard about this. What? I would. What was their name who asked that question? Sophie. Sophie, I have heard about watermelon and mustard. Wait, I think I did try it. Do you want to see if Melissa will cut us some watermelon upstairs?

Yeah, let's try it. We have watermelon for sure. Okay, well, we're going to try it here first. Annie won't talk about. Oh, yeah, perfect. Annie is obsessed with hot dogs. Want some for breakfast, lunch, dinner before her bed. She's almost asleep.

and her one eye opens, she's like, I want a hot dog. Justin's like, no, we're not a hot dog. Annie is relatable. Yeah, she is so relatable. I feel like hot dogs get such a bad rep. Another question. Emily's asking new mom here. Any general advice, Jill, how long did it take to feel like yourself again?

How long did it take for you to feel like yourself again after the first baby? And then we will eat watermelon. I don't know. I still don't feel like myself. I think you will never be the same. And I actually think about the pre-baby Jill, and I fantasize about her. Like, I'm sure Justin does too. Like, I was hornyer then.

Oh, yeah. And I was more fun and I love to entertain. Happy, just glared at me. She's like, corny. Yeah. And I was more fun and I had more energy. So, yeah, it's still seven years and I still don't really feel like myself. But what I am trying to do is I'm trying to accept this new person that I am.

Yeah. Like I'm trying to be like, I know I'm a new person. It's me now. And I do miss the, like, Annie is crying lately. She doesn't want to have babies. She says that she's going to hurt her vagina and a lot of other things. She says, yeah, and I'm like, okay, but I get it because, like, for those also who are in this stage of life where they're wondering if they want to have kids. Yeah.

It's like, it is so special being a mom, it is so special. And I love these humans more than the world. but you are tired and irritable and you don't get a lot of time for yourself and you don't get to just do whatever so I have friends Terry and Sophia and I think they're okay with me saying this but they are financial advisor yeah yeah and they've decided that and they really talked about this for a long time like are they going to have kids or not and they I think I've decided that they're not going to and I look at their life and I'm like that is awesome like and I'm always like don't regret that don't regret that

But there are things like when I'm holding Leo in bed or this morning, I made him breakfast. And he's like, I love you, Mom. How did you know I want an avocado toast? And I was like, this is the best. Yeah. So there are pros and cons. But like, there's not just one way to life. Yeah.

Like, there's not just one way to do things. I think that is a, I think that's actually really good advice to say that you have to kind of accept that you don't go back. Yeah. You don't, you're not going to feel like your old self again. And this is your new self. And you have to kind of surround. render to that. Yeah. Yeah. But I will say, I think when our kids got to the point that they got of diapers and they could communicate, that did feel like, like, for example, like they're upstairs

right now. And I think my mom, the nanny's going to leave in 12 minutes and my parents are going to come in. And I'm not too stressed about it because I know that they can kind of take care of themselves. Like, yeah. Like, they're going to be able to figure it out. And so at that point, you're kind of like, I can travel again or I can get a little tipsy and I'm not too worried about the mornings. Like, I don't really do that anyways. But I think probably, when they're like five or six years old maybe yeah yeah maybe that's yeah i mean hey melissa jill how much sex are you having after two kids and many years of marriage so okay let's i'm going to repeat the question who asked alice asked how much sex are you having after two babies

so first of all this is a really great time to clarify uh something that came from the last podcast oh yeah it's good at speaking of vaginas yeah so on the last podcast we talked about diva cups and how they don't work for me and I'm like, I think my vagina is just too big. But anyways, what I've actually realized is that after having two kids, I actually have like a little bit of a prolapse. And so what happens is the diva cup is hitting the prolapse. That's why it's not staying in. Is it because my vagina's too big? It's because I have like a bit of an issue there. Can you get that issue fixed? I can get it fixed very easily if I just went to like a chiropractor or like, um, um, they, there's like a vaginal chiropractor and I think they like,

I think they stick their fingers in you, I think. Oh, I'm a floor specialist. Yeah, probably poor specialist. Okay. So I'm going to go next week. I was kidding. Yeah.

But anyhow, so yeah, I can get it fixed. I just have to prioritize it. Okay. Which I have not done. But how do I say? So anyways, Justin, after the last one, was like, you told everybody you got a big vagina. I'm like, I don't think you should tell people that.

He was like, he's not as, like, as open as I am. Yeah. I was like, honey, it's just kind of the way I am, especially I'm with Caitlin. I'm thinking it's just kind of. So anyways, now you're asking this question, how often we have any sex? He would say not often enough, but I think for like a married, not married, but like a person is in a relationship. And we have businesses and we've got kids and whatnot. I would say at least once a week.

Amazing. I think at least once a week. Now, I always look for an excuse for, like, because also I'm tired. And this is my theory. Is there a doctor that can validate this? I think for women, once you've had babies, your body's like, I'm not, I've done my job. I don't need to have sex anymore. It's true.

That's actual, like, where men are still like, let me get in there, right? Yeah. So it's, there is a difference. And on top of that, I am tired. I am touched out. My job requires me to be very, like, social. Yeah. So at the end of the night, I am a little bit like, oh.

But once you get in there, I'm like, get your shoes on to go to the gym. like, why I don't want to do it? And then you're doing it and you're like, this is so great. Why would I, why don't want to do it? We should do this more often. Yeah.

But I just recently, like, realized, like, Justin's a great father. He's very patient. He's a good guy. I love him. I think he's sexy. Sexy is like, I sound like my mom. But I'm like, yeah, like, I'm attracted to him.

I love him. And I'm like, this is, I can do this. And every time I do it, I'm happy I do it. Yeah. So when we went to Paris, it was rent off. Like, if anybody walked by. I was in Paris at three o'clock in the morning on her first night. I apologize.

Like, you know, it was like... You did the streets? Like, pretty much. It was pretty intense. Yeah. So, Paris was amazing. And then... Yeah.

It was so awesome. Like, he even passed out, and I'm like, wake up. We're going again. Like, it was... Oh, my God. But, yeah, so I am making more of an effort, and our kids are getting better at sleeping. Oh, good. Yeah.

That was a big struggle. But it's funny because it's happening in random places. It was like in the kitchen, like in the garage. It's like, you can't just have sex in bed. Rochelle and our team hate us. They're like, this is disgusting. That's not. I cook in my kitchen.

Yeah, I cook in that kitchen. You're like, well, my vagina juice is all over the countertop. You didn't want to eat my pineapple ice cream because my finger was in it. Like that your blood was in what? Well, I cut my finger and then I used it to stir the pineapple ice cream. But most of the people on my team, team of actually eat my placenta because I put my placenta into pills and a lot of them ate that. So I was like, what's a little blood from like my finger?

Yeah, it's probably good for people. Did you try my placenta? No, that was before you. You're supposed to put your period blood on your face for like youthful. We should do that with the team. Yeah. Team bonding. It's called team bonding. Right. Alex would do it with me. I know that. If we could get to this next level of content, we could save a lot of time of like making the shot list and stuff. It'll go viral. Yeah. Like, okay, anyways. Okay. Wait, we'll do one more question and then I have one game and then we'll let you go.

This one really got in on hinge. This question just came in from Sarah based on what you were just saying. Okay. This is relevant. You were both very outspoken gals. Do your partners have issues with that? Do you feel like your partner censor you and how do you deal with it? Do you feel like our partners censor us and how do they deal with us being so outgoing?

Is it ever an issue outspoken and everything? It was definitely an issue. issue with Jason at the beginning, but now he's like, he's seen, it's actually helped him in the long run because he has become less buttoned up and a little more outspoken. Yeah. And his mom is very outspoken. And so he, I think he secretly always loved it. But at the beginning, he was like, you can't say that. Yeah. And you can't do that. And I was like, fucking watch me. Yeah. I was always, this is me yeah so um i think he appreciates it now even though sometimes for the most part yeah i don't think just to appreciate it well i don't know i think he you know i've always been this way

yeah i'm talking too right but he does care what people think more than than i do jason too yeah definitely and i don't think he'd be offended if i said that maybe he would be but yeah he always is like oh did you say my mom she my mom is like oh she's my mom really and I'm like where do you think I learned this from yeah you're like um yeah we're talking about my vagina I came from yours mom yeah but I always I always just say like this is me and I have no filter and it's when I'm my happiest and I try to like best respect him yeah but yeah sometimes it is an issue but we just got to walk through it like there's some things about him that drive me crazy and vice versa totally you know that is what it is but yeah sometimes it's an issue

I love that. Yeah. Okay. So for the big wine guys, we're playing a game called Big Wine Guy or Big Wine Lye. Okay. So how well does Jill really know her wine? Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Ready? Yeah. So stressed. Wine. Oh, yeah. Pour some more over there. Thank you. Spade is sparrows for her.

You're good at that. Oh, my God. Okay. Wine with screw tops or boxed wine indicate a lower quality of grape. No. Okay? You're right. No.

The quality of the container doesn't indicate the wine within. So like a boxed wine, I would just say maybe is not the best. Right. But, yeah, I think you'd want your wine out of a glass bottle. Okay, you're true. That's true. A standard size bottle of wine has 600 to 800 grapes. Oh, I was going to say.

milliliters, 750 milliliters. I don't even know is that, was that a... Yeah, I would say true. Yeah. Some people are legitimately afraid of wine. That's me. True. It is true.

It's called... I don't know how to pronounce it, though. Don't cheat, though. One oenophobia. That's like Canadian. Oenophobia. Ono? Yeah.

Oenophobia. Yeah. That's you? No, not genuinely afraid, but once it gets going That's scary things can happen Yeah is what you're saying

Okay Red wine should never be chilled It's true Nope false All wine should be chilled For at least a short Well yeah Frick like you can't have a worm

That's stupid That's kind of a trick question I've been set up Okay Dogs are Tate Dogs are able to sniff Wine barrels to tell

If the grape has gone bad Oh true No It's false But I thought it would be really cool Yeah Okay The better

the wine, the better the legs. True. No, it's false. The legs actually indicate more of the alcoholic strength, color intensity. Okay. Okay. What are our legs? But not the quality. What are legs? Legs? You know when you like, do this?

Oh. That's not how you do it. You do any legs. You do that? No legs. Well, it has a little bit of legs, actually. Higher alcohol means that. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. That's why my wine saying is Great legs full body and the wine's not bad either I love that okay How am I doing?

You're doing really well actually There are actually over a thousand varieties of grapes used to make wine Oh I'm sure there's over a thousand Yeah for sure Yeah If a husband found his wife drinking wine in the early Roman times He was at liberty to kill her It was forbidden that women drink wine

Probably so true It is stupid. How fuck was that? Yeah. That's, even getting into the wine industry is male-dominated, and I'm like, you guys suck. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, Mr. Ketchup over there.

What do you got coming up? Where can people get cookbooks? Where is everything? Abby, tell me what my life is about. Okay. Well, it's summertime. Okay. So I'm taking some time off, but Instagram is the place. New cookbook launches in the fall. September. I'm super excited about that.

Amazing. And if you don't have my first cookbook, like just going to say, I think it's the best. And also it's amazing. It's great for people who are like, oh, I have to cook this gluten free or is this nut free or is this, that, and everything. Like it's wholesome, it's healthy, but it's like really like, it's good food.

It's incredible. And that's one's noodle dish, the, with the white sauce, the... Oh. You don't know. Did I make it free? Yes. It was like as... Is it in the cookbook? Uh-huh. It's in the cookbook. You got excited to tell me it was in the cookbook. Oh, oh, like the, it's like a lemon and it's like a summer one.

Yeah. It's a very summer. You look at it like a lemon pasta, but it's delicious. It's so good. Sorry, so the new cookbook comes out in the fall. Very excited about that. The jellybox is like kind of my baby. And so the reason why I started the jellybox is I wanted to prioritize small brands,

women-owned brands, Canadian-owned brands, like brands that like either made in Canada or if they're made overseas that people are really doing their homework. If you're looking for something, you're really doing their homework. want to feel really good about it. We have like a market now. So we're bringing all my favorite products there. So Jilly Box is like, yeah. Genius. And what else? Oh yeah. My fresh. So we did a collab with the cookbook and Jilly Box where we like designed like an apron and oven mitts and a little cookbook stand and a little sign and then you get the cookbook and you can get it signed. Oh cute. So they get the whole thing. It doesn't ship until September. But it's great. If you got like a wedding

or you got a kid that's graduating, moving out, even for yourself, Christmas presents. That's like the latest launch okay yeah that's and is just like follow you on it's your own yeah okay um and it's not her own TikTok so well it is my own TikTok so well it is my own TikTok but what happens is we film it and then it gets uploaded yeah like it's me because I go down holes on TikTok where I'm on there for hours and I'm getting educated but I might be getting educated on something that's completely false I just think that I haven't spent enough time on TikTok for it to be refined yeah yeah oh yeah my for you, Paige, is all like comedians, funny stuff and like life hacks and dogs.

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