Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Joey Graziadei | Get to Know The Bachelor!

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

#706. Get to know The Bachelor, Joey Graziadei, on today’s episode of Grape Therapy. Joey gets into everything from growing up a fan of the Green Bay Packers and Rom-Coms to his knowledge of astrology. Joey also talks candidly about his experience from how he felt at the first rose ceremony to what was the most difficult thing for him throughout his experience. With the amazing group of women this season, Joey is excited for everyone to hear their stories and watch them carry this season. Kaitlyn asks him to describe his perfect woman and makes her prediction for his top three while Joey tries not to give it away with his facial expressions. They wrap it up with a fun game of “How Do You Proceed” and Joey shares an embarrassing, yet relatable, story from his college days. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We watched his season unfold Monday night, and now I'm trying to get little teasers out of him. And I think I cracked him a couple times. So you'll have to see it. Judge his facial expressions when I bring up girls' names, because I know Reddit does their thing. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Don't lie to me. No, I am.

I really am. I'll be honest, I'm surprised how good I'm doing because this is, I think what I keep saying is it's weird how comfortable it's getting. It's just one of those things that I guess I'm getting. This is your identity now. No, heck no. Don't let it become my identity, please. I think I'm just getting used to the TV stuff, getting behind camera. You know, going into the Bachelorette, like there's so many things that go through your head. You're like, okay, my name's going to be out there. I'm going to be on TV. I remember getting those like butterflies before night. And I don't know. I just didn't feel it. Maybe it's because I saw the episode before. Maybe it's because I'm getting used to it. But even going on like Kimmel last night, I usually that would just rock me and I'd be like nervous. But I don't know. I'm getting more comfortable with. which feels good, but it's also very weird. Isn't that funny, too, because I'm like, you've done Bachelorette, so it's like you've been in front of a camera and you made it all the way to the end,

so it's like you really got the full experience. And then you're the Bachelor, and you're now just starting to get comfortable with going through all that. Jimmy Kimmel, isn't he so fun? He's awesome. I think the coolest part was like we were able to have banter. Sometimes you do some of these things. A little bit more buttoned up. You're trying to make sure you just say the right answers,

but at the same time, I think it was just fun. and everything's been great so far but that was also one of those pinch me moments when you're standing in there like I met Kate Hudson before I was like shut up I'm obsessed with her I'll lose a guy in 10 days

I say it every time favorite rom-com I met Andy Anderson I was the luckiest guy ever That's from the shit You gotta know how to lose a guy in 10 days That's her character I literally just watched that on a plane Like six months ago

Yeah no that's her character Oh that's her name Yeah oh I think Can we edit that and make me look like I knew what that was Let's let that be known she did not know she said it's one of her movies doesn't even know and Andy Anderson and that's the character that's her and then Benjamin Barry's Matthew McConaughey you got to know you love a rom-com I'm a big rom-com guy what it all started when I was a kid because when we would

go to the movies I have two sisters and that was a big thing when my dad came to visit was we would go watch movies together and what happened was I used to fight them it would be like they wanted to pick the rom-com like no transformers and I'd lose every time when the vote would happened and by the end it was like three were voting for the rom-com I just became a big rom-com guy that is my dad my dad had my I swear my dad will never admit this but my dad wanted boys I know it and he got two girls and then he is like one of the girls like he literally watched he watched magic mic with me and he goes I just think I can always find like some something to take away from these movies like he loves it yeah no you're around it enough

it happens so you're getting used to all the craziness and the whirlwind and What about the attention? It's weird. I keep saying I don't think it's, I haven't felt it fully yet. I'm a normal stature, a normal looking dude walking around. Like, I don't think I get notice as much as people think I do. Really? I mean, I usually like wearing a ball cap and like some glasses where I can.

And that's just like my usual. I don't dress up that much when I'm in my own kind of, I guess, territory and doing things. But I just haven't felt it a ton. The online stuff, I pay attention to as much as I can. but at the same time, I, like, I want to be involved. I want to be able to, like, know what's going on. It scares me for you. Yeah, but, you know, if you can't beat him, join them.

I'm just, I'm a part of it at this point, so I'm just kind of falling along, and it's part of this whole process. I totally leaned in, but then, like, now, eight years later, I'm like, that hurt my feelings. Like, I got softer over the years. That's understandable. We had, like, a saying when we were on The Bachelor with all the guys, and it's something I've held on to, and it's ignore the hate and ignore the love even more. So it's just, like, one of those things that, like,

when you're paying attention to it all, you came into this as you were. Yeah. And just to try to remember that. Oh, I love that. It's like not to let it get to your head. And don't try to have it also be the hate kind of get under your skin.

So it's, I know who I am. I was confident coming in and I'm going to let whatever, like I want to know what people's opinions are. I want to know what the views are. But at the same time, it's, you're like open to the constructive criticism.

I grew through this process. I will continue to grow after. So any type of thing. Yeah. Thank God. Oh, love that you know what I notice in your season is the like younger women now coming in I was so over the 25 year olds like a few seasons ago and now I feel like it's like this like almost like a breath of fresh air with these new women coming in who they're like spiritual yeah and like the way they were speaking I was like wait that's me I felt like they were fully leaning into like astrology and like their spirituality and I thought I was going to be annoyed again at women in their 20. And I wasn't.

No. I loved them. The girls this season are amazing. They have beautiful stories. They've all been through a lot in their life. They're vulnerable. They share. It's like, I think that's going to be one of the running things this season is just getting

to learn about these women. They have amazing stories. Yeah. I feel like I already, I went in thinking I was going to be like, and I actually came out of it feeling like not annoyed. Like I was like, I like these women. Yeah. I really like them.

Also, did you feel like, what was the time? timing between charity and filming for your season? I don't know the exact time. I remember I came back to Hawaii sometime in May and I got a good like two and a half months and just backed my normal life, which is so big for me just to kind of get back to feeling like me. And then I started filming and moved back to my sister's place back in like early August. It was around that time. So whatever that math is, that was about my timeline. Okay. Because the thing that I think people find interesting is how fast people heal from these heartbreaks because like in real life I it took me five years to get over a heartbreak one time like five actual years for me to fully be like I think

I'm getting over it now and in this world it's like it is different because everything's such a whirlwind and then you're so immersed in this love story and then once you're removed from it you kind of have so much a different perspective and clarity around like okay was I actually in love or was it just like the situation but does that scare you moving forward if you pick someone i don't know i watch spoiler free i hate spoilers if you pick someone does it make you nervous that it's been like you you've been put on this pedestal where you're like god's gift to these women and it's like do you feel scared or nervous at all about coming back down to like your humble reality and being like i'm living on my sister's couch do you still love me let's set it straight i'm on the couch

i've got a guest room it's now joey's room so you know it's it's it's a It's not completely eligible, but it's okay. I'm trying to Jimmy Kimmel, you, and banter with you. I know, I like it. Let me have it. No, I think that it is something that you'll see throughout the season. Like I do have moments where I struggle. Did they fall in love with Joey the Bachelor?

Like I talk about it. I want to always remember that it was me coming in, and this is just a role that I'm in. Yeah, yeah. And I haven't worried about it after. I can't say anything if I'm obviously with someone. But I think that it was really something you'll see throughout the season. I do think some people get really caught up in what you should be doing, what you should be looking like. And social media is such a, obviously, like, what's the word I'm looking for?

It's an illusion. And the real life actually is exciting. You know, it's the downtime, the sweatpants, the like normalty. Learning the small things, that's how I say. It really is. It's a big deal. It is a big deal. I think one of the beautiful parts of the show is you find out a lot about someone at their core.

Yeah. You get put in a tough situation. You really learn about them. But small things take time. And I think that's some of the most exciting things about a relationship. And that's something that you can obviously look forward to if you end up with someone at the end of the show. What is your relationship with social media? I've had a lot of back and forth. I was a kid in high school that thought I was so cool that I got rid of my iPhone and got back to like a flip phone because I was so sick of my screen time. I was like, I'm so cool that I'm a flip phone. I'm a junior. I don't even have an iPhone anymore. But then, you know, I've had moments where I have, I have really tried to post, share things about my life. I lived in a cool spot in Hawaii, but I was also the guy that after college, like, I took a ton of people off of my Instagram, like, that were following me because I realized there was a lot of people I didn't know, and I'm now living a different life in Hawaii

that I want to share with people I actually know, and now it's part of this world. So it's one of the things you lean into, but it is a little bit weird sometimes. Still to this day, I'm like, wow, wow, people really care. Like, they really care, and they see you as one-dimensional on Instagram and on Bachelor,

there's obviously so much more to you than, you know, you showing up as as The Bachelor or you on social media. And I just, I always want people to remember that because I'm like the amount that people think, I mean, they feel very entitled to your life. And they will feel very entitled to your relationships, especially if you pick somebody, it'll be very interesting. But I just, I like to know people's relationship with social media because it can be such a toxic, like, drug almost. Yeah. And I feel like you, you have a good perspective on it right now. And I hope you keep that. I just keep always saying, like, I'm learning with it.

You know, it's something that I know if I dive too deep into it, it can affect me. If I ignore it completely, it's not realistic. So it's just one of those things I'm trying to understand. And it is a part of this world. Whether you're in this or not, social media has an effect on all of our lives. So I'm learning how to use it correctly to make it still, I want to still feel like I'm myself. So however I can do that, I'm going to keep focusing on that. Okay.

I really love that. I am rooting for you in that because, God, people lose themselves. Yeah. Are you still 28 or are you 29 now? I'm 28. You're 28. Yeah, May 24th, so a little bit later this year. We're both Gemini's.

I found that out through this, through the episode last night, which is so funny because Gemini's really like, yes, but Gemini's love other Gemini's. Correct. Like my girlfriends, like guy friends, everyone that I really like vibe with are Gemini's. And we do get a bad rep. We do. But, you know, as I said, it's funny how much I understand a little bit about the astrology world.

It's really big in Hawaii. Like I've met a lot of people who like talk about it. ton. I'm not as educated as I should be in that sense, but I do know how Gemini's get a bad rep. And I've had that way too many times where I say I'm one and like a girl gives me a look. I'm like, oh, God, apparently that's not a good thing. I know. They're like, you cheating liar, piece of shit. Yeah, they go to the negative. So I know. I will admit, I have two personalities, but a lot of times I think it's good. It's just different versions of myself that you will see. I literally can be so sensitive and

soft and then I can be like so spicy and rough around the edges. I think it's good. Are you so excited for your frontal cortex to develop next year? Yeah, that sounds awesome. Do you know this? I hear it's a thing, but like I said. Men at 29 get so much better. That's great. Yeah, like I love that you're 28.

You're already doing therapy. You have a very good like lens on certain things. And then your cortex is about to develop and you're about to level the up at 29. That sounds great. May 24th? May 24th. That's a pretty good time. Yeah, put it in there.

Let's see what happens on that day. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. Can you please come back on in a year? No, wait, not in a year. When you're like when you're six months into your 29 end of this year. We'll check back in and we'll see where we're at sometime in November. We'll try to make that happen. Can you journal for me if you don't mind? Yeah. So that was one thing I did really well on The Bachelorette and I know I have fallen off. I won't I won't lie about that. It is something that was so huge for me. And I truthfully didn't have as much time as I hope there's the Bachelor to be able to journal. But I need to get back to that because I've noticed that something. times I get in my head and it's a good way to kind of clear my thoughts I think yeah I read mine every once in all from when I was bachelorette and it's so funny yes it's like I want to do dramatic readings of it on my podcast or something because it is I was so confident I was like who is that bitch I was like and then you can just see it slowly getting shit towards the end I'd be like I hate it here somebody get me out of here yeah it's not the billy eyeless dramatic music playing at the beginning

I mean, I actually got full chills, and I was like, I thought, at first I was like, this is so cheesy. And then I was like, I'm in. I'm hooked. Yeah. It was so good. I loved. I loved having that little added thing. When I heard the music, I was like, okay, I can get behind this.

This sounds good. Like I felt drawn in because Billy Eilish does that to me. Yes. She makes me feel. And my soul was like, I need to watch this whole season. I love it. Yeah, it was really good. Anytime you add music to something, music just makes the world better.

That's true. So when you can add that, and I know they haven't done a lot of songs on the show, and I love that they're starting to do that. I think it's great. Well, because I was like, is it a copyright thing? Because they played Billy Elish, but then they bleeped out the Canada flag. What the hell?

I can't speak to that. I know that was something I saw online, and I knew that would make you a little upset. That was not, I can't speak to that. I don't know what that was. I was laughing because I was watching that episode two. If you look in the background of Maria is doing her hometown, you can kind of see a Canada flag in the background,

but that wasn't blurred. So I was like, oh, I guess the flag on her has to. I'm so confused. I don't know. guys know? Oh, okay. You look at that smile. I'm so curious.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm going to ask my immigration lawyer, Alan. Figure it out. So you grew up in Philly, but you're a Green Bay Packers fan. I'm confused. So I was born in Florida, but majority of my life I lived in Philly from like second grade through college.

Okay. My mom's side of the family is from Wisconsin area. Ah. And as I always say, that's all they have. They only have football and cheese. Yeah. So, uh, that's- My producer's from there. she's probably nodding her head.

Yeah. And they're proud of it. Baby, let's go. Yeah, they're a huge fan. Yeah, it was, if my mom has instilled anything in me, it's for the love of the Packers. I mean, it's like the only team that actually, it kills me when they lose. So still hurting from this past weekend, but good season overall. I'm sorry for that.

That's, I went to a Packers game, January. I think it was second. How cool is Lambeau Field? It was so sick. I like, the whole experience, it was like minus 12. My beer was freezing. I had a hot dog. Everything was bundled up on me

except for my eyeballs and like sitting on the foam so that your butt doesn't freeze because it's the old school bleachers. It's crazy. They hand out those clip on chairs because people don't want to sit. I think when I went,

I was wearing like three jeans. I like I wear a 32 and I bought up to like a 36. I put on a 32, a 34, and a 36 because it was like negative 20 and I was like, this is terrible. It's nuts. Also so fun at the same time. It's kind of part of the experience.

Like you have to, you're not a true fan unless you've done it like that Wisconsin people just get it And it's always funny when you're like complaining about the cold There's this dude next to you chugging beer shirtless It's always like a wow I'm soft Like I felt that immediately You know it's so funny Jason Kelsey like shirtless

Chugging beer I'm like if I did that People would be like this girl is such a hot mess Like what an alcoholic raging slob And then Jason Kelsey doesn't everyone's like Yeah what a beauty I'm like I want to do that I know I know It's unfair. I'm sorry.

It is unfair. I'm sorry for that. Did you like all the cheesy entrances? Was it like funny or were you like, okay? Be honest. I'm being honest. I'll have a back and forth. There were definitely some interests that when I saw it was like,

not for me. But what I always said, which I appreciated, and we talked a lot about on our season was how like I couldn't do that. Like my way, what I did on charity season with the flower, with just like trying to be just me, like calm, comfortable, trying to be a little chill. That was up my alley. But, like, these girls went all out.

And I was impressed. I was surprised how much I actually did, like, some of the cheesy stuff. I was like, you know what? This shows your personnel. You're having fun with it. And I tried not to be too critical because I remember how scary it was getting out of that limo. Yeah. I blacked out.

So, like, the fact that they did anything like that, I do give them props. It's like, go back and do it again. I would ghost ride the limo. I would, like, get on top and, like, surf. Yeah, that's what I would do. I dream about this. I want to go back and do it again so bad. Let's make it happen.

That sounds awesome. but as a joke yeah of course that would be funny if they did something where they had everyone come back and redo limo inches like just did that like trying to have people everyone that like did well on the show just had a redo and they thought of something that like they had more time because i'm sure you're not the only person who thought they would change it up and do something different i would definitely take it like people are like don't have any regrets i do kind of regret that yeah do you have any regrets from your season from filming because i made so many mistakes as the bachelor i i messed up so many times and people

a lot of times are like, well, that creates the right outcome. Like, everything happens for a reason, but I definitely messed up. Did you feel like you messed up at any point in the season? You know, I actually still stand on that I don't because I go off of how I felt after every rose ceremony, right? I think that's a really big thing. And I never had that moment where I was like, oh, I regretted this or regretted that. And like you said, it's a butterfly effect.

Whatever you do, it affects the whole process. So I don't look back on anything with any regret. I know you can. Okay, you can't say anything. Ask the way. I know what I can or can. Can't say ask away. The beginning obviously makes it look like you are just like up and like just up in arms.

I don't feel like that's right. I'm emotional. You're emotional. You're emotional. It looks like the one rose is just like they focus on that. Like do you even give it away? What can you tease about the ending? Will people see it coming?

Is it a shocker? Is it? It was a shocker to me. I was emotional. I think the big thing is I have not been a huge avid watcher of the show. This is all very new to me. but from what I'm told, the ending is something that hasn't happened before.

No way. I mean, I know they say that every time, but like this is actually, from what I'm told, that is the case. So I think that's the best tease I can give. Okay. I was obviously emotional. Yeah. The reason why, the whole background of it,

yeah, you're going to have to wait to that last episode to see. Oh, shit. That's good. Yeah. I like that. I can see. She likes it. That's good.

I am so in. Every season I go, I don't know if I'm going to watch because sometimes it actually, I think PTSD like brings up something. I don't even realize it brings out of me. but I feel really excited about your season I think that I said it earlier

and I'll say it every single time through this I think the girls are going to carry a lot of it they are so vulnerable so honest they share really beautiful stories I think that's going to be a big part it was a great well here's the thing you have to follow Gary yeah that's hard

those are some big ass shoes to fill Gary was like Mr. Rogers and like he's just like every all the women were so incredible that now you're like fresh after that so people are kind of going to compare it and want to see more from these women so I'm excited that you say they carry

the show. Do you think it's going to be as dramatic as other seasons or more obviously there's drama? Yeah, there's always drama, right? I don't know. I don't know if... Not you, oh, you picked both sisters, didn't you? Yeah, first night. Sorry, I interrupted. I got excited. No, you're good. Yeah, the sisters added drama. You can always see some of the dynamics

of some of the girls starting off. Yeah, I mean, as everyone knows, you put enough women in Bachelor Mansion, there's going to be drama. So, Of course. I think how it, you know what's also so interesting when I watch it back is I always forget that I don't see a lot of this, right? So that's the one part that people don't realize is that you don't see a lot in my position. A lot of the things that go on behind closed doors, all the dynamics in the house, like seeing some of those interviews, like, I had no idea the sisters had that much an issue on night one because they were so chill around me.

They seemed so happy about it. So that's so funny to be able to watch back and see what all of that's like, too. people yell at you from the couch being like, how did you not see this? Or like, how do you not know that to send her home? And you're like, I actually don't see it until you watch it back. And then you go, oh, shit. Like, I always think about like, what if you picked a girl and then night one you watch back and you're like, oh, my God, you were the worst.

I'm not going to say that. But I can tell you that that is definitely part of it that people forget that you don't get to see so much. What you see on TV when I'm talking to the girls, that is all it is. Speaking of Gary, who do you think was more drunk at that wedding me or you? I'm not answering that question. but I think we both did our best. It was a good time.

That wedding was a lot of fun. That was so cool to meet all the people that, you know, I've been able to connect with them on social media, but like Dean, Ben, Wells, all there. He's just a good time. He's a good time. Every time I'd spend time with him, it's just been fun. You know that she walked me home that night?

I think they both might have done that for both of us. Oh. We were the party that night. We went for it. Again, I don't want to speak to that. I think pictures said enough. That was a good time. Yeah, oh, I saw that you were on chicks in the office and they were like, how drunk were you?

Yeah, Dean said something about that. He said, I think Kalin asked Dean who had the most fun and his answer was both me and him had the most fun. So that was just a good time. It really was. Yeah. The open bar was a big mistake. That was, I mean, no, it was actually not a mistake. It was so much fun.

But we all got so sick after it. And everyone's like, you were at a super spreader. I'm like, I've been on an airplane every week. There's more people on an airplane than there were at that wedding. I know. So an airplane is also a super brother. Everyone just came from all over. There was sickness going around.

Oh, my God. We all, there was like 10 of us that got the flu. I know. I want to know who started that. Who brought the flu? Who was like, I need screen time?

So I am going to go there with the flu. I have no idea. We'll see. How many women did you kiss night one? Is there a record? I don't know. There's probably, I think Bachelor of Dayter probably keeps that stuff.

I think it was seven though on night one. I'm trying to remember. I think I kissed four. and people thought I was the devil. They're a little bit nicer about it nowadays from what I see. Yeah. I've said the same thing. And you're a man.

Yeah, I think it's also just like you need to be able to, it's important to figure out if you have chemistry and how that goes. I just kind of, I'm a vibe guy. I go off of how it goes and one thing led to another on night one, I guess. I think you have to. I think you have to just like, if you're feeling like you could, you're picking somebody to be your wife. Right.

Why would you not kiss all of them? Like, I want somebody to do that. Night one just be like, line them up and be like, I need to make out with each one of you. I don't think that would go over well, but you could try. I don't think that's a strategy. This is why I don't make television, okay? Because that would be my idea.

I feel like you have to make out with everybody and then send the bad kissers home. That's aggressive because then they would know. Were all of the, yeah, that's good. We like honesty. Okay. Was there any bad kisses night one or were they all good? No, I can't answer that with me either. Come on.

What? No. Oh, you are so media trained and a nice man. I just, I would never do. do that to someone else. You don't want to have that be sad. That's fair. That's really fair. You wouldn't want to hear that about yourself. I actually would. I would like to know if I'm a backdisser because I would

need to change some things. Not on a podcast. Okay. Well, when the cameras are off, I'm asking me to the real questions. So what was your feeling in the Rose ceremony sending people home? I remember that being one of the worst things is the first rose ceremony because you're like, you didn't even get a chance and I have to send you home. They're all tough.

That feeling, you know, I know it's harder as a contestant because you come and you're like so nervous. But that feeling on night one didn't talk to some of them, and there's not much you could do. I wish I could. 32 women's a lot of women. I tried to talk to as many as I possibly could.

I think it was. So, yeah. I remember Chris Souls when I was on that season. I think there was 30 women and that was a lot. Yeah. So it sucks on night one. I mean, they were all amazing. It wasn't like there was someone that did anything wrong per se.

It's just you got to go with your gut and just move forward through it. Did I hear Lauren whisper go for himself to Allison? 100% I did not hear that on night one from my angle but that 100% happened That is so funny So Philly and I love it So Philly

I love it So do you get shit from like Philadelphia fans Being like why are you not an Eagles fan 1,000% Yeah I feel like Philly people are like very much like harsh It's the first thing that someone says When you're from Philly you hear like Go Birds And I'm like yeah I love the Eagles

But still go Pac-Go Wow I know But I always root for the Eagles The only time I don't root for them is when they play the pack Like, I did grow up in that area. Yeah. All the other Philly sports teams are my top teams. It's just the Packers are like, it's in my blood.

Okay. Can I give my prediction for top three? Go ahead. Let's hear it. Have you practiced your, like, face? I don't think I'm good at that, so I'm just going to drink. I know. I'm going to drink my mug and you just go ahead and give me your top three.

Well, I noticed that. I was like, did you know you had facial expressions or did you watch back and be like, oh, I don't hide anything? I'm so nervous to watch this entire season with my facial expressions. I realized very quickly how. much i can't really uh yeah i'm not good at holding that in that's funny okay so i think okay really liked daisy she's very sweet i feel like she's the most wholesome little grows up on a christmas farm tree farm yep like she's like a hallmark movie i'm obsessed okay i liked lexy

mm-hmm so lea i love how she handled the card because her soft little sensitive soul she like really took it seriously i would have been like fuck it. Right, right. Woo! One of you, bitch, and I would have used it right away because later would be rude,

but she, like, threw it in the fire, and it was so funny. Okay, so I really like her, because that card, given to the wrong person could have... Yeah. Because that would piss me off. If I was the Bachelorette and some guy

who sucked, not saying she sucked, I mean, like, what if somebody that sucked got it, they got to take away time that I actually wanted to spend with somebody, I would be so mad. That card scared me. I didn't know what she was going to do,

with it, but I knew in that moment all I could do is try to comfort her because I saw how much it was affecting her. Bless her sweet little soul. I felt so bad, but like, yeah, that was a scary card. How would you have handled that if you got that card on charity season? I have no idea. I said, I say the same thing. I hope I

would handle it as much grace as she did, but that's scary because you like, you want to use it, but then you also know that like, you're going to have a target on your back if you do. And that was all I tried to do in the Bachelorette was try to stay in good grace with all the guys because I just didn't want to get into all that drug. How do you feel about if women are like, I'm actually not here to make

friends, I'm here for Joey? Do you take that as a compliment or is that a bit of a red flag for you? I think I take it as a compliment because they're obviously there for me. I think that I'm a big person that tries to pay attention of how you treat other people though. Totally. So I think there's a way to do that. Yeah. You might see that throughout the season. So we'll see how that goes. What is a major red flag for you that if somebody has that or did have it on your season, you're like they got to go now? Again, it's pretty much what I said. When someone seems very inconsiderate. I just need someone that can think about others because if they don't, I think about others too much. And if I'm with someone like that, then my heads is going to be spinning me in

higher time. Yeah, fair enough. So you've gotten through filming, shows now airing. I don't know what's harder thinking back if filming or rewatching. I don't remember what was harder, both hard. People are speculating and you obviously know the outcome, but how hard is it going to be for you to hide it to keep it a secret? Have you told like your mom and that's it or your dad? I've told a close group of family members and I think that's really about it a few friends but not much yeah I think it's I want people to watch it with everyone else like I want people to find out on their own what the outcome is because I think that's the whole purpose of it but yeah it's hard it's I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to put your life on pause like this and hold everything and it's never easy no

what do you think the hardest part of filming was for you it's a good question what was the hardest part there's probably like a million but if I think back on it the surprising one that you find out pretty early is it's just is nonstop like when you're on the show as a cast member you have days off yeah you're not on every day and it took it was probably about like a week or two into l.a i was like i don't like it's every day every day all day and i'm like whoa okay like this is going to be tough because you just i know how i am i'm going to want to bring it every single day because each girl deserves that and to do that throughout this whole process i don't think people realize how taxing that actually can be. You're telling me that was harder than sending home the second runner up.

I can't talk about any of that. Come on. I can't say what that was. We're going to have to wait and see. Do you think there's a clear, obvious bachelorette for next season? Like, are we going to be like rooting for someone so hard? I think there's a chance of it because I know usually people are like kind of rally behind someone, but I'll stand on the fact that there's a lot of amazing women throughout this season. So I think there's going to be a lot of favorites. I'm hoping she's Canadian. It's been a minute. There's Jillian. Then there's me, and we need another Canadian bachelorette. Well, you got a couple this season, so you got a couple to root for it.

And we need a Canadian little sassy pants. I love Canadians so much. You're pretty fresh out of this experience. What advice would you give to the next lead if you had to? Try your best to have fun with it. Try. It is so hard sometimes with how serious it all feels. There's how I am as a person.

I really try to have fun with it, but it can be hard. So that would be my big advice to someone. Okay, I like that. What are you most nervous to watch back when it airs? Fantasy Suites? Give us a tease about the Fantasy Suites. You know I can't talk about fantasy sweets. You can tease it.

I think that's always a tough one to watch because it's where things get really serious, right? So that's going to be probably tough to watch. Let me think I think of a really good thing to talk about that. It's going to be tough. I think the ending, like all of the ending is, I think I remember back too because doing it from the Bachelorette, Like, it's a different experience because you watch it at the AFR stuff, too, and there's so many other elements that happen with that. So that's always the most nerve-wracking.

Yeah. That was the first time in a while that I've gotten that kind of like bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-in your stomach because you're walking out. You're about to have everyone else to have an opinion. You have to talk to a person. Like, that's going to be tough. Yes, and it's live. Yeah, and it's all live.

Okay, I have a little game that I play at the end of my episodes, and it's called How Do You Proceed? So I'm going to give you a really uncomfortable situation. Sounds great. And you have to tell me how you. would proceed okay oh this sounds awesome let's do it okay night one she confesses her love to you and it's very serious about it she's like i well they kind of did yeah some of them are like i will i'm a yes person i will say yes to you yeah okay next question during hometowns you find out

their sister is pink the singer whoa yeah how do you proceed i try not to like fan girl on pink probably who's wait who's your celebrity crush a woman uh duelipa okay duelipa is their sister how do you proceed I would hope I would have found out before hometowns because I should be asking questions but they held it you're saying they held it close to their best yeah they're like I don't want to tell them I know that's a celebrity crush I proceed by acting like I don't know who she is great I introduce myself I ask what she does for her job I just I try to play it cool I try to act like I don't even know who she is because the last thing I should do is try to freak out that dual leap is in the room with a girl that I'm hopefully getting to know better and maybe even moving forward with that's good okay I exactly accept that answer. That's my, that's my answer, but I don't think I would actually do that. You're like, I actually would start sweating and ask her if she wants to make up. Okay, one of the ladies admits she's only here for the Instagram followers, but she is open to falling in love. Yeah. If she says anything about Instagram, that's a big red flag. I think I would have to

probably start to tread lightly and probably work my way out of that relationship. Yeah. Because it's, it's so hard because it's inevitable that they're going to get Instagram followers and that obviously women are going into this knowing that now. It's a conversation, right? Like, I wasn't afraid of talking about it with the women. It's just if it seems like it's a running point for you, it's like, what are we doing here? I'm here to find my person. So that would be an immediate red flag.

Okay. One of them is someone you met through a dating app a while back. Oh, boy. And you had a bad experience with, but you actually, like, have been thinking about her. That's juicy. I would immediately talk to one of the producers being like, how the hell did you find this girl? That would probably be the first thing I would do. And then I'm a big second chance guy.

Are you? Yeah, I would definitely try to, if I felt like it was least something that it wasn't a total deal breaker, I'd be open to talking to her again. Have you been on dating apps before? I lasted a week on Hinge, one week. Did you get dates out of it or you were just like, I'm out? There was like one or two dates, but for me it was, I can't do that stuff. I'm such a natural meeting person type of thing. I like knowing, I like having more natural interactions that the apps are just weird.

I don't even know what to say after like three texts. It's just, it's not for me. The apps are weird. I feel like I wouldn't enjoy. Like, I like, I like the idea of it because I was like, ooh, fun. Like, put yourself out there to a bigger audience. I get it. But that seems like a lot of people are on there for the wrong reasons.

I think you have a big enough audience. Yeah, yeah. And 32 women to choose from. One of them admits that she really wanted the lead to be someone else from charity season, but willing to give you a try. That's a bold thing to say to someone. I love honesty, though. I know.

Like, if somebody told me they were there for Instagram followers, but they were open to, I'd be like, you're a douche, but I like your honesty. I think that that one I would have to at least see if there was something that was worth it because I do appreciate the honesty side. So I would be like, that's a very bold call, but let's see what happens.

If that was early on, I think I could move through it. If that was like three or four weeks in and they finally admitted that, then I'd be like, okay, maybe this isn't right. Right. Okay. Now, last but not least, describe your perfect woman. Describe my perfect woman.

Like, what is your type? Like, when you went in as The Bachelor, Everybody has negotiables, non-negotiables, things they like about a person. What was your list of like, I'm looking for this? I've said this a lot too, but I will say it every time. I need someone kind, someone compassionate, thinking about others. I really wanted a family-oriented person, someone that cares deeply about their family, regardless of what their situation is, just has a connection with them.

I definitely wanted someone that like to have fun. That's a big thing for me. I don't like that I sometimes get a little bit too chill and kind of, laid back. I need someone to pull me on my comfort zone and just like kind of pull out my goofy side a little bit more because I need someone to do that for me. Yeah, I get that. But in terms of like actual characteristics or traits, there wasn't really anything. Like I've dated a lot of different types of women. I think that I've learned pretty much as I gotten older. It's so much more important to find someone with a connection because intimacy, attraction, all of that physical connection can build

over time, especially if you feel like they're bringing something out of you. So that's really what I tried to focus on. I think that's the coolest part about watching the show is at first someone might not stand out to you and be like, you know, this like, whoa. And then as you watch, and it could be for you too, like, as you go on through the season, you're like, wait, this person surprised me and now I'm falling in love. Like, and I like those stories. We always call it the slow burn.

The slow burn. There's always slow burns. The silent thunder is what I like to call them. I like that silent thunder. They like slowly. And then by the end, you're like, where did this person come from? I'm obsessed. Yeah.

No. It's part of it. It's part of the experience. I know I said last but not least, but I forgot that every single podcast I get somebody to confess something to me, did they prep you for this? No, no one prepped me for this.

Oh, it was in the schedule. It was in the notes. It was in the notes. She catches me every week about this stuff about notes. I don't even check my email. So every, okay,

so every podcast somebody gives me a confession like, is there something in your life that's happened where you're like, that is the most embarrassing thing that's ever had me. I've had a lot of people tell me they shit their pants. Wow. Oh, I got one. Okay. Great.

Shit. I hate that shit. My pants lit me up. My boys from home will love this. And I'm really afraid to admit this right now if I'm telling you the truth. Very happy. It's not anything bad. This is going to make me look like an idiot.

Okay. That's the best part. Yeah, let's make it real, right? People's Bachelor as much as I can be. All right. My buddies when I was in college senior year, I think it was, which I hate admitting how old I was when this happened. No, this is great. We have a very supportive community here, and we're going to make you

feel better. Okay. I had a very good time without drinking, you know, just usual college day. My usual M.O. when I have a good time is I found my way back to a 7-Eleven to order a 7-Eleven pizza. Disgusting. I know, but it was an M.O. for me in college. Yeah. It's like a, you know, like a frozen pizza. Just a little bit quicker. Yeah. Had the urge to pee. Okay. Did not handle that well, apparently, because I was not in the right mindset and I apparently my friends that were behind me because I was running ahead to get my 7-11 pizza yeah saw me walk into 7-11 but when they walked in I was no longer there and they were like where'd this guy go and there's like I don't know but he already played for the pizza so here it is

hand them the pizza and my buddies walk outside and I'm on the alley like holding on to the 7-11 thinking that my pants were down but they were not oh I was like oh that's okay a little public urination that's okay yeah but the pants were when the pants were still up and And I went home and ate the pizza. And stayed in your pee pants. Yeah, just for a little bit too long. Did you eventually take the pee pants off or did you sleep with the peepants off, shower? What?

All of it. I'm not disgusting. I just like my 7-Even pizza and I peeve my pants before. Pea my pants at 7-Eleven for a pizza. I'm probably not showering and cleaning myself up. Oh, man. It was the poop your pants thing that brought it out. And you, there's no hesitation.

No, because, you know, you want to think. something good. That was a bad time. No, I've done it. Great time, actually. I actually did that same thing as a grown woman. I was hammered and thought I had pulled my pants down, but I sold my underwear on, and I just peed on the toilet with my underwear on. Yeah. Forgot a step. Forgot a step. That don't make us bad people.

It doesn't. It doesn't. It makes us relatable, right? Yes. Someone else has a story like that, I'm sure. I thought you were going to say you shit your pants. No, good thing that hasn't happened. So we're still good on that one. Well, I'm excited to watch the rest of your season and see. see what happens because I do feel like this season's going to be different. Yeah, I think we got a good one on their hands. I'm excited to see it all come out. I love it. Thank you for coming on the podcast. I'm really rooting for you and whatever it happens. Thank you so much for having me. I was

excited to talk to you and I'm glad you're excited for the season. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now ending. And if I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind a rating and review. I don't know. Thank you.