Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - JoJo Fletcher & Jordan Rodgers: The Reality of Being on Reality TV

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

First time OTV guests, JoJo Fletcher and Jordan Rodgers, join Kaitlyn today to dive into all of The Big D-etails of their love life. From how they almost didn’t make it through the first year after coming off of The Bachelorette to why a 6-year engagement was the perfect timeline for them. As one of the few successful couples to come out of The Bachelor franchise, these two have some words of advice to give. They’ve been through a lot as a couple but there is one thing Jordan still needs from JoJo. Could it be The Big D-ealbreaker? No, BUT they do get into those which leads to The Big D-ebate about hygiene. And if you’re wondering, “What’s with all The Big D’s?” Then you need to go check out their new show The Big D on USA Network right after Temptation Island, or stream it on Peacock!  Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: Skims: SKIMS “Fits Everybody” and more best-selling essentials are available now at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select Off The Vine in the dropdown menu. Angi: Your home for everything home.  Progressive: Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So I took him to the 4th of July party. My girlfriend's husband, their family has this pool. I already felt like I was like in Europe because their pool is gorgeous. So I had your sprits out and I like laid out the towel and I was so pumped because I was going to do this photo and I gave everybody a sprits. And then their little baby Chandler came. and the party just kind of like forgot about everything else because cute baby alert and we were like chasing him around and drinking our sprits and then I got home and I was like son of a bitch it is so good honestly I just like it's all it matters it was so good and that's like one of the only thing my girlfriend likes to drink is a sprit so she was like what a genius idea so kudos to you for coming up with that it is amazing thank you and I know how hard the alcohol business is so honestly I want to talk to you offline because I've yes I'll talk to offline yes I will help in in any way I can. It's really tricky. Like when I first started, I just thought, I'll just

put my name on it and it'll sell. And then I was like, oh, just kidding. It's everything that goes into it. Yeah, we can talk about that offline. Okay. So I want to talk about the renovations that you guys do because you have really been through it all as a couple to survive the bachelorette to then come out of it and survive rewatching it. Then the first year, which is like the most impossible thing ever to get through, then to work together hosting. And then you're kind of doing your own thing at one point. Now you're working together, home renovations. You've really put your relationship to the test. How do you do that? Oh, gosh. You know what? Like the first year, close your eye. I don't even know where to start, Caitlin. Yeah. Like, you know, the first year is, I know. Very hard. It's impossible.

It's very hard. And we went right home after AFR. And I had a house that I was going to start remodeling. That I was like, hey, I guess let's do this together. So think about, let's add some more stress to our relationship. Yeah. Long story short, we ended up finding out, this is like maybe an outlier, but like, we really do well working together. Yeah. Which we were shocked by. That's amazing. The hardest part of our relationship was just being in the relationship, right? It was not the renovating part of it. That's funny. That was the escape. That was kind of the escape because we love doing it together. Huh. Yeah. Wait, that's actually really cool. I never thought about that because to me, the hard part is working with a partner. Like, I'm

so particular and I'm so competitive and weird. And sometimes I need to check myself about that because it can definitely cause problems. But I find the escape, like the relationship part of it, but I can now understand coming off of that show and how hard that is. I find it close to impossible to get through that. So that's kind of cool. You guys had that to do together and escape from the reality of what is reality television. Because I know the first year is so hard. And I remember you guys talking about in certain interviews, like, that you almost didn't make it. And then you got through it and you chose each other. And then your marriage got put off because of the pandemic.

And then the best was doing the classic Shania Twain song, looks like we made it. And every lyric, I was like, this song, like, it was written for your wedding. Honestly, yeah, it was, I feel like the first year, we have been very open about it being very, very hard. You obviously too late and understand, but it's kind of, you try to put on such a good face. Like, you try to be perfect because you think that you have to be. And obviously, now that we're away from that, we're very comfortable saying, like, that's not the reality. Like, that is not how life works. And yes, there were so many times where we, we would have, it would be like, high, high, high, low, low, low. And it was like this for an entire year. And so, yeah, we had this,

like one moment where we're like it's okay if this is not best for us as individual right I love you I respect you like it's okay if this if we both decided this is not something that we we want anymore and that was like on the cusp of a couple blow-up fights and a really tough like month and a half and we're just like we don't have it figured out and like maybe it's best if we're not together or maybe we need to come together and realize hey we got a lot of shit we need to work on. Yep. And we need to actually work on it instead of like.

And do we want to or is it a pressure? Yeah, 100%. That's a big aha moment I think is zooming out of the situation and going, are we doing this because everyone is like, oh, a couple goals and they're perfect and like we look up to them and we, you know, they're following your journey and they've just committed 11 weeks of their life to, you know, believe in your love story or are we doing this because we actually choose each other and want to? So obviously, romantic as hell that you're like, no, we actually want to.

And also, it's interesting, too, because I find that, you know, I talk to other couples in my life that obviously haven't been through reality TV, just the people like the friends that I have in my life. And they go, it's funny for what we've all been through because the hardest part kind of comes at the beginning and you get through so much messy, hard crap that like usually in marriages, they're like, oh, it should be like blissful in the first three years. and the hard stuff is when the marriage happens and kids and everything. But we're like, let's get it out of the way now. So true. So true. Yeah. The first year, like, it was hard.

We figured out our flow. We, we, it was like, we had such a great relationship. And then you get into, like, COVID. Oh, gosh. And most people, I think, like, it was either COVID was really great for the relationship or it was really bad for the relationship. And, like, thankfully, we recognize that we do really well in the same space. We do really well.

And we spent, like, 24-7 together anyway. We had, we had, like, funny as time. We had a little, like, spat, like, a couple of weeks ago, like, just a little tiff argument. Of course. And we're like, why are we, like, why are we even fighting? And I said something that was kind of funny. I was like, you know what?

Like, for how much time we spend together, we should have way more fights than we actually do. So relatively speaking, I'm doing pretty good. Like, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, it kind of is surprising. But, like, we've done a good job of that. I'm proud of us. That's amazing. You should be because, I mean, you're one of the couples that has made it out of the Bachelor

franchise. There's not many people that could say that. I remember, I said this on a podcast the other day. I had to actually take a step back at one point. And I was actually so jealous of your relationship because I was like, I thought like we were going to be the couple that made it and I believed in us. And then that whole thing fell through. And then you guys did what I always thought was going to happen where we'd get through it. And then he would repurpose with a more beautiful ring. And then you guys did it. And I was like, I'm jealous. But obviously, I'm so happy for you guys. It was a me problem. But it's just so cool that you guys get to be one of the couples that worked and that this was, like, meant to be, and we can stop talking about Bachelor now, but it's wild.

It really is. And it's hard. And, like, that's part of that, like, reproposing thing, I think is also, like, the initial proposal, albeit was as real as, like, either of us ever wanted it because it genuinely was, but, like, then you go through that first year and you seem like you're 10 years removed from that phase where you're excited about spending the rest of your life together. And I'm like, after all that tough stuff, I'm like, I want that again. Like, I want, not I just want a buy a middle ring, but I want to be excited about.

planning a wedding. We wouldn't be excited to get about. We took so much time, Caitlin. Like, everyone's like, before we got married, they're like, you know, we celebrated our six-year anniversary the Thursday before we got married. And people like, that's incredible. It was like a running joke for everybody. Like, are these two ever going to get married? It's been six years already. I'm like, listen, we tried in 2020 and then 2021. Okay, now 2022, COVID's down. We're going to get married. But like, time was our friend. And like, I just am so happy that, like, there was so much pressure to do it sooner. And I'm so glad. that we never listened to that because time was our friend in our relationship.

Totally. I was going to ask you your advice for charity because I just believe that she's really there to find her person and she feels so comfortable and natural on TV and in person and you just, you could just tell she's at the point in her life where she's ready for it. Would that be your advice to her moving forward outside of us to just not listen to the noise? Don't listen to the noise. I mean, I think the noise is what really hurt us year one. Yeah. Noise was damaging to us. And like that's the nature of the beast when you're on a show like this and you know it's like every media tabloid every assumption every

preconceived notion about you know like I was very wrong like I look back at like my season and like I had Jordan and I had Robbie and like what I thought of who Jordan was going to be after the show and who what I thought Robbie isn't like at show I was very wrong like I totally misjudged that and I had spent a whole season with these two because I just started to like let my own mind like just I was listening to what I thought people were thinking within that level. And I was so wrong. Yeah, well, you're also listening to producers that want the drama that want you to be like really torn between two people. I mean, I went through that too where I was like, same thing. I was like, I was so wrong. And like,

obviously in that situation made the right choice that ended up being wrong, but still was meant to be. But like, you need to be removed from the situation to really have clarity and see the the real picture. And the time thing, I think it's so important. And like, everybody's different. Everybody's going to do us with that. Maybe we took too long, but that's what we needed and always what was right for us. But like really, yeah, not listening to the noise, focusing on your relationship and making true decisions for your relationship for the better interest of you and not anybody else. Yes, honey, preach. I love it. Okay, you guys, I did it. I tried it. I tried skims. It's about damn time. I've been wanting to try their products for a very, very

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did we? Was that COVID that made it all? Dude, you know what? CashUp was the most authentic thing because obviously that's what I was doing before I ever met Gordon. And then when he got into the picture, we started doing it together. And we were like, this is really cool because this isn't like we're jumping into a new thing that we have to figure out. We really can just do what we've been doing. And it's really cool. We can show. It was a great show. I think it was on the wrong network. Ah, that always. We tapped into this CNBC. They were really trying to get into like this re you know reality they were taking a dip into a reality bunch of shows to see if it worked on their network and it it there was just business and i think we love that part of it i love the

business aspect of it but it just i don't think it translated with like our audience as much that makes sense didn't that same thing happen with the big d where it was like maybe the wrong network had it and then you guys filmed everything and then it wasn't going to air and then a news like what happened there yeah there's two huge conglomerates behind the tv businesses and they're merging right now, Discovery and scripts. And so in that merger, they dumped a lot of shows and canned them to write off his debt. So it didn't air there and then went through a process of the creators of it, getting rights to it and pitching it again to a bunch of different network.

So we ended up in a great spot because we had Peacock as well. A lot of people don't have cable. So a lot of people can stream it when they need to and it's on linear cable. So I think we ended up in the right spot. It just got caught up in like the business. And Kalin, Big D's on after Temptation. Island. And I couldn't be more stoked about that because I freaking love that show. That's a good time slot to have. That's amazing. I love it. So for people that aren't watching,

obviously they should be tell them like the kind of story of what goes on at the big D because it's fascinating. And I feel like I can't explain it as good as you two can. You know, this is the simple form explanation of it. So we take six recently divorced couples. We put them in a house together. All of them are ready to find new love. Okay. And what that looks like for some people, it's either moving on from their past, closing the door because they still haven't been able to do that and moving on into something better and hopefully more healthy. Or it's revisiting that that old love and rekindled love. And so you see so many different relationships, so many different dynamics, you have the drama. These are divorced couples that are recently divorced. It's not like years.

Like months or how do they agree to this? That's crazy. And then we just, start throwing in single divorce days as well to come into the house to kind of mix up the dating pool and you know they're they're in our age group like these are younger recently divorced couple so it's it's really fascinating it's uh there's a you know when you hear about the show you think this is a train rat they're a light flat house on fire uh burn it down but there are so many like layers to this show and there's so much like I think growth and healing that people don't anticipate but if you've been watching you haven't watched you catch up you start to see that episode four or five like a lot is starting to change i'm gonna give you two quick examples for people

i've never seen it one couple showed up on the beach we met you know ex has walked up on the beach to first episode they wanted nothing to do with each other they didn't have bad blood but they was like i'm here to date we're divorced like we haven't really talked out of my way stay out of my way yeah they're starting to realize their divorce was not as big of a deal breaker or the reasons as they initially thought. No way. Confessed their love together. They're not back together completely.

The season's not over. We'll see what happened. But they definitely realized that there's still something there. Then another couple married for 14 years, 14 years, recently divorced. She's over it. He shows up, not over it. They had this breakdown at the beach where she said, hey, I love you, but you have to let me go.

It was so sad. And he's coming to the realization that it is over. You know what he says, Caitlin, she goes, she's sobbing. She was like, you have to let me go. And he, with the crack in his voices, you know, you're really hard to let go of. Oh, I can't. I'm too emotional for this right now. That is so romantic.

It's the train wreck of singles and reality TV. And then there's a lot of like really wholesome love and kind of genuine connection that's starting to happen now that we're midway through the season. The idea of the two people realizing that maybe their divorce was like not as big of a deal as they thought because I think this is from divorced parents where I'm like maybe mom and dad will get back together you know it's so interesting and that was kind of one of the reasons like when they brought this show to us we were engaged at the time and so we were like how does this fit how can we be how can we be the best host doesn't make sense for us right like we're engaged in here we've

never gone through a divorce and when we talked to the creators of the show and really kind of dug into like what all this show has it's like that was like the one thing that pulled on my heartstrings It was like nobody gets married thinking they're going to get a divorce. My mom, my dad both had marriages before they met each other. And I remember having this conversation with my mom one time and her feeling like when she got a divorce at such a young age after having my two brothers, like she felt like such a failure. She felt like she wasn't going to ever get that second act in life.

And like, and I think about that. My mom is the furthest thing from that. I'm like, she was better for it. That divorce was, it was better for her, right? And so these people come in here, divorce is never part of the plan. There's so much life left for them and hope and love. But there's something that's stopping them from getting there. And coming on to the show, they start to confront that and they start to see what that is.

And so it's a really cool kind of evolution. I love that. I think you two are so perfect for hosting too. I know people have their thoughts on Nick and Vanessa Lechay. And I'm like, put you two in for Love is Blind. Like, you guys would be perfect for that. Well, listen, we love all these shows, okay? We binge all of them.

But, like, that was, like, primetime COVID. Like, everybody's locked in the show. Yeah. It's done so well. What has been the biggest TIF so far on the season? Like, the biggest dramatic moment. I feel like it's happening right now because you're midseason. With the contested, with the divorcees.

Yeah. You know, there is this couple, which, you know, this is not the fun side of a show like this, but there's a couple, D.D. and Chikour, where you're starting to see there's a lot of toxic behavior that's coming out at their divorce now, but you can see that there's probably trauma that D.D. has experience from that and it's coming out right now. And so this toxicity and the behavior and I don't really know how to say this, but like that has been such a big thing because it's kind of scary to see that. But I think it's highlighted the behavior and Diti has this support group around her. And this is the first.

time with D.D. and Chacour that like they're in a space where they actually have like professional help there to help navigate things. And so we have Dr. Jada, who's a part of the show. Yes. She's an incredible resource. Yeah. That's amazing. Chacore has these blow up heights. Like he drinks and can't handle his emotions. He wants her back. She wants to move on. So the best part about this show, though, is that those conversations for both of them would never have happened if they weren't confronting it. And also, they wouldn't have the support group around them during those, oftentimes ugly fights, which I think is the best part that it's happening. It's happening in a more controlled environment with support

around them so they can, like, move on. And reality is these, you know, some of these, we don't talk about this on the show, but some of them have children together. So they're going to be in each other's lives. So they need to go through those issues for many reasons. Yeah. For many reasons. But yeah, of course, when kids are involved, because you're going to have to co-parent for the rest of time, That's, yeah, that's so interesting. I love that you guys have a therapist on there that can work with them, and they are in that controlled environment, like you said. I love that.

I would have loved that. Did you guys get to you, sir? I'd be like, hey, while you're here. Oh, Dr. Jada? Yes. Yes. What? Great.

We didn't even know half the time that we were in a therapy session, but we were in it. We'd be sitting in the green room, like, cool, after filming and just be like, hey, those people are crazy. And they're like, well, we kind of, we fight about that sometimes, too. like i don't want the exact example but like we would yeah sometimes go talk talk about like what had just happened and like you know jordan would have one perspective on it and i would have another perspective on it and then we'd start to talk to dr jada because she was in the green room with us and then it's so it's actually about our relationship we're like we're two hours into this conversation

how are we talking about you what i mean you all of a sudden you're like crying in the fetal position being like well my inner child really needed this out of you and you're like in a therapy session that's incredible we loved it yeah that's she seems awesome and And then what is your guy's role? Like in that situation, when there's drama, when there's certain things happening, what is your role as host of the show? And is it awkward ever for you guys to have to go in and be like, hey, by the way, like, we're just the host here.

Like, what is your role? You know, it's so funny. This was actually the first show that we've hosted together where we felt like it was, we could give a little bit of insight based on experience that we share together, right? In terms of you're meeting in a very unique way. You have cameras all around you. No one's used to this. We're asking you to open your heart up to,

Just anything, right, like to, that this could be real. So from the get-go, we really wanted to make sure that they knew. Like, we aren't just like the hosts that are going to come in here, read a couple lines and then peace out and then tell you who's going home. Totally. We wanted them to feel like they had an outlet because I feel like for me, at least, on our show, it's like you're detached from your life, your people, your world, no phone, no nothing. And like, I would have my producer and I would have Chris Harrison when he was around sometimes

that I could talk to you. And I remember feeling like, God, I'm just glad I have that, right? Like, sometimes it just needs to vent from what's going on around me and just talk to somebody. So we tried to be that for them. And there were a lot of times where we would off camera, just see someone struggling with something that maybe we had struggled with before in this sort of setting and just go talk to them. I'm so glad you were allowed to do that because I've only really experienced like Bachelor and Dancing with the Stars as far as reality.

TV goes. And so that's all I have to compare it to. But like on Bachelor, you really, they usually want a camera around or the storyline has to make sense. So it's so cool that you guys are able to kind of be mentors in that situation and be there for them to be able to trust you guys and see that in you. And then to have that connection between the host and the contestants is really cool. And then the end prize. So how does that work? So it's $50,000 for the couple that, like, do people vote? Like, how does the prize work? So we actually didn't. behind the scenes, we never told the cast that that was the prize. No way.

So there was no ulterior motive. We were trying to avoid any ulterior motive to faking a relationship, I guess, for... That was going to be my next question. Like, did people fake it for the money? Okay. So they knew there was something at the end. It could have been a nice big participation trophy.

It could have been a trip. It could have been, you know, anything. Yeah, it was a night in the hideaway. Yeah. So we kept that under wraps as much as possible. So at the end, win the voting. does occur, it is much more of who is the most genuine, real relationship here. But I'll say the great thing about that is you can't fake it when your ex is right there.

Yeah. Like your ex, no, he doesn't really like her. I'll tell you what. I mean, like, you have to be yourself because there's someone there that knows you better than anybody that's going to fact check you no matter what you're doing. And I think what else is interesting is like all these, there is a voting process, but it's all done amongst everybody in the house. So you're living and seeing every single moment that you can't, you know, you can kind of fake

something in the beginning, but you really can't hide and fake everything. And you do start to see, you know, we had a couple who there was a guy named Blair and Dedy. And, you know, they were starting a forming a connection. And then they got to the form where they just recognized like, Blair actually doesn't really like her. And so like, and people caught on very easily. So I think it's hard to fake a genuine connection for that long when you're constantly. constantly amongst peers that are watching everything that you're doing and have a say on if something's genuine or not. That's a really good point. That was going to be my next question because I thought

they knew that that was the prize. And I was like, how do you even do that because your exes are there who know you so well? You know, for the season two, it'll be interesting. We'll have to think of something different. But I actually, I've already started to think, like, I would love to see, if there is an elimination of some sort, I would like to see that delayed. I would love to see these people spend more time together in one space for a longer period of time because I think more comes out of that and you start to see a lot more things. That's kind of like one thing I had in my head for season two. Yeah, I like that. I was going to ask, is there going to be a season two? I love that. We hope. We have any people to watch. I think it's like, it's so hard for a new show to like get

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Yes. Is that what you guys did? So we were adding Dr. Jada. I was like, is this her husband? Like, what? You're like, Dr. Jada, you dirty dog. Amaras on. Oh my God.

Who is that? Oh, my God. What is that? Then we just saw him. We were like, what's happening? And then it ended up with some great promotion for the Big D. Yeah, there you go. Absolutely. You're like, thank you for that because how perfect. That same guy came onto mine and I thought I was adding my best friend. And I would, it's like the, the process of the emotions are so funny because you're like, oh, oh, oh, God. And they're like, no. And then you panic. And it's like, I know, I couldn't believe the same thing happened to you guys. I was like, oh, God. Actually, I froze. I was just. I panic and he freezes.

That's always learning about each other. you know that's incredible i have one quick game for you guys before i let you go it's called the big deal breakers i'm so clever oh you like that deal breaker yeah so on episode two of the big d the contestants were given a list of deal breakers so i wanted to know what you two think are deal breakers or not in your world okay so bad hygiene deal breaker or nah deal breaker feel breaker big time yeah like i just couldn't be attracted to somebody had really bad hygiene but i will say it's yeah i get that josea does shower more frequently oh you know i like to ask do you do you shower twice a day absolutely not do you do you shower that would take off my spray tan

thank you this may have things like two showers is a bare minimum and i'm like no i no no but now i shower once every other day oh i shower see i shower more than kately what about when you work out that's when I I will definitely rinse off after a workout yes a hundred percent and it'll be quick and it'll be cold and I'm scared for my spray tan to come off but if I don't work out I'm like I don't have to shower with that like I can't get into my bed without a shower because you know the more I thought about it I'm like I get that so now it's a mental thing for me I kind of get that like I definitely have to shower after a plane like if I get off a plane and I'm going to bed I refuse to like that's disgusting but so I guess it's circumstantial yeah okay

um heavy breather this is a personal thing for me i can't do a heavy breather like i would be annoyed me like i would be annoyed and so this means it's like forever like it's a forever uh forever heavy breather that's another question like have i fallen in love with them and then they start the heavy breathing or it's like from the get go oh no it's from the get go i don't know i don't know really cute really fun mouth theater it's like you know oh i just it's that's a thing for me. I can't, I like, no, I can't even think about it. Okay, what about no sense of humor? Oh, that's a deal breaker.

No sense of humor. Are you thinking about this one? Like, what if you're like, it's a deal breaker, I guess. I mean, yeah, what I like, I, yes, I guess deal breaker. You need a sense, yeah. It's a deal break.

Open. Try to be open. What about trying to pick the good ones. Okay. What about if they're friends with their ex? Not a deal breaker. Yeah. But I do think that's, yeah, I do think there's conversations that need to be had and there's boundaries, but I don't think it's a deal breaker if you're comfortable.

All parties are comfortable. That's, that is fair. Look at you finding all the loopholes. Um, okay, uh, bad tipper at a restaurant. I don't think it's a deal breaker, but we're going to have a conversation. Yeah, more of a deal breaker is being rude to wait staff. I mean, you need to be. You too.

I think sometimes when you make you like bad. I'm not realizing the like 10% is not enough. And you need to go up funny. You two are good communicators. You're like, well, I don't know. We would have a conversation. We've worked through some things. Cheap ass.

Okay, last one. What if they hate dogs? Deal breaker. That's like something about your soul. That's that, yes. I can't, I don't trust anyone who doesn't like dogs. Okay, last thing, I always make my guess confess something to me on every podcast. So now is your chance to get whatever you need to get off your chest, something that we don't know about you guys. That's really embarrassing.

Okay. I have a funny story. Okay. I've never told this story. Okay. After the, it's really not that big of my deal. Okay. So after, while I was on The Bachelor, I remember at one point, really, I think like I had bit into an apple or something. And I felt like my tooth was loose. And so I was like, whole. Holy moly, how's my tooth loose? I'm an adult. It's a bad timing. So I really that... Popping a tooth on The Bachelor? No. So then we get off the show.

We're together now and I'm like, I need to go to the dentist. I go to the dentist. We do some x-rays and we find out that I have two baby teeth still in my front. No. Baby teeth that I've never fallen out. That one is very... What? I know.

One is very... The x-ray is like they're not even attached to the butt. Yeah, it's like they just, I just never, they don't know. Okay. Weird. So we were like, oh, we can't have this. So we're going to need to pull your teeth and we're going to have to do an implant. So I'm like, well, I just got engaged to this dude that probably thought I was pretty cute.

But here we go, pull my two front teeth out. Pull the ones next one too. There wasn't the two main. This is right after, I think. He comes to the dentist with me They do the surgery I come out I'm so Like a drugged up

I don't even know what's going on I just have no two teeth And I have like foam in my mouth And I'm like You see me no teeth I'm like no sweet Of course not I did

I definitely did Yeah So that was like Really uncomfortable for me Out the gates I was like well that's weird And so it's a video he has on his phone that he will always look back on and just die laughing. Oh, I love that.

But now there's that. Have you shared that video? You need to. No. Where is that? She won't. You're kidding how many times I've said, oh, but it's so funny. It's cute.

Now I think we're past it. Maybe we can do it out of the archive. But at the time, I was so embarrassed and mortified cake. Yeah, I get that. I get that. But now I'm like, well, here's the story. Well, you're put on. this you're put on this pedestal of like being the most beautiful like uh like like this muse

that everybody's like to know me we're you know like that's still you just to know you with a gummy smile the gummy smile hey if he could love you through that i'm telling you guys have been through it all that's on that same vein i got a good confession can we do one embarrassed about you no no this is like yeah i don't have one but this was actually i thought was a deal breaker too like i before i got married this was something that needed to occur. What? Jojo has never audibly farted in front of me. Yeah, I haven't.

What? Ever still? Still. My earpatch is. Before we got married, I'm like, it's got to happen. I am not walking down the aisle if you don't fart. What? And you still haven't.

I'm so confused how you've never let one slip. Here's the thing, like, I am naturally not a barter, okay? I would burt. With Bert, I've burnt more. I think that comes out there. That's like this, too. I've had this discussion. Got to get out somehow.

And that's, like, you know, it's become such a thing now that now I don't even feel comfortable to let us live. Because he says this story all the time. We're not only now it's a thing. I did get cropped at one time. He was in a separate room. I happened to walk into the room and I was like, oh, oh, you did. I love it. It's, Jojo, you're so perfect.

in so many ways, like, you have to fart sometimes just to make us all feel better. You know what's so hard about this, though, Caitlin, is right now, literally, we don't have bathroom doors. The one thing in this renovation that hasn't been done, we don't have bathroom doors, so she is like a... What do you do? I don't know how she does it.

No, I... Middle of the night? No, listen, I... I'm like, you came into the bathroom. Yes, or not going to my... You, like, want it so bad at this point. It's like getting weird. But I don't want... Here's the thing. I don't want...

I want to just, if she, like, walked up one, I'd be like, that doesn't mean. I want to catch them. Like, I want to embarrass me. He wants to make me feel mortified. Please let me know when this happens. Like, when it finally happens, can you please text me and just say, it happened? I'll be very happy about it. I'm weird like that. I'm like, yeah, so I don't know how to burp, which is the weirdest thing. So I'm a farter. Like you said, it's got to come out somehow. They just slap out all the time. I can't help it.

Yeah, interesting. Wow, learned a lot here, everyone. I'll literally be like, get out of the room right now if you don't want to be a part of this. Like, I'm just, I'm, yeah, maybe I have questionable hygiene. I need to check myself a few times. Jordan, you can't get away with not telling an embarrassing story about yourself. Um, oh, wow. Yeah, go ahead.

Go ahead. Beat that. I got to think, too. I should have one. Like, nothing happened after where you were like, you didn't. Like, you guys both came off a show where you had to be like, this is the real me. I had bald spots from extensions. I, like, I was like, this is the, I had retainers in.

It was the whole thing. Yeah, no, clearly that all just came from one end. We're reading. I have what you thought. Well, I'm trying to help me. I don't know. I don't get embarrassed for easily. It's not, you know, I don't know.

I had to think of it. It's okay. The only time, he got one time when we first got together, he got so belligerently drunk in Nashville. And I stayed home that. That does. It's not something. that happens. It doesn't happen, but he got so drunk and he came home.

I didn't go out with him. I don't stay home. And, which also never happens. Yeah. It was a weird night. It was a weird night. Once in a blue moon. And some rumplements got the best of me.

And I, that will happen. Someone's so kind of grossly drunk, like got naked and it was like vomiting. It was not good. Oh, God. We put a sentence together. I was like. Which again. Has never happened since, had never happened before that.

So maybe once it called. Nashville will get you. I've never seen that. I've never seen that since that night. And it was so abrupt. Good. It was interesting. Yeah.

It was interesting. Hey, that's fair. But every time he wants to embarrass him, he doesn't like it. That's true. Not a proud moment. That's true. Yeah. Not a proud moment.

Okay, well, there. I'm glad we got this off your chest and we forgive you. And I'm sure people have stories to relate to it. And I think at the end of the day, we realize that I'm the gross one here. Hey, it's a cool. I'm a gross one. Oh, God. Okay, tell everyone where they can watch the show, Peacock.

And did you say another platform? It's on the USA Network live every Wednesday, 10-9 Central, right after Temptation Island. Or you can stream it next day on Peacock. I love it. Is there anything else I miss that you want to say? Miss you. Hope you're doing good. Miss you?

Love you. You guys are very soon. Come. When are you coming here next? He was just there last week. I was just there last week, but I was just working. Oh, thanks for saying that. You guys are also crushing it.

I'm glad I could finally talk to you. I always wanted you guys on my podcast, so I'm so glad it happened in the next time. Maybe we could do it in person. Yeah. Absolutely. We'll find a time when we're both in the same city and make it work. Awesome. You're the best.

Thanks, Kate. Thank you guys. Enjoy the rest of your day. Get through it, coffee and water, and you got this. Bye. See you, sister. Okay. Bye.

I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. See your next.