Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Jordan Davis | Country Music Star on His Songwriting Journey, Family Life, and Big Breaks!

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

#782. In this episode, country star Jordan Davis shares his inspiring journey from working a 9-to-5 job to pursuing his passion for music in Nashville. Jordan opens up about his early strugg...les, the song that changed his career, and how his brother played a key role in keeping him on track. He also talks about balancing family life with three kids, the challenges of marriage on the road, and his musical inspirations. Plus, don’t miss his hilarious confession involving Hannah Brown! Tune in for an inside look at the life of a country star. If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE! Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals! Brooks Running Shoe: Feel like you can run forever! Visit BrooksRunning.com to learn more! BOLL & BRANCH: Enjoy 20% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com with promo code VINE20. Macy’s: From October 28th to November 4th, get ready to dive into Macy’s Friends & Family Event! Head to Macys.com to start shopping online. LMNT: Receive...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:51 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Conix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to a advisor free of charge but mGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with i gaming ontario off the vine hey everybody welcome to off the vine i'm your host katelyn bristow today we have country music singer jordan davis on the podcast he talks about being a dad a husband while being on the road he's been touring with luke combs and mitchell tenpenny and he has a great confession actually
Starting point is 00:01:26 that involves Hannah Brown, but it's just an overall really nice conversation. I love myself a country singer. I actually had a redemption moment with Kane Brown last night because so I don't know how many years ago it was now. Probably like six years ago he came on my podcast and he didn't say a word. I was like trying to get like anything out of him and I'd be like, so this is happening. He's like, yeah. I was like, oh God. Yeah. So then his wife came on like not even that long ago, who I love. and she was like, oh, my God, he still, like, feels bad about that podcast. And I was like, really? And so I saw him last night and he's like, I don't hate you.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I hope you don't think I hate you. And I was like, he is a quiet. I mean, I feel like, yeah, probably six years ago, he was probably a lot more quiet than he's now. So quiet. I mean, I know Kane pretty well. And I can, even sometimes it's just like, all right, Kane doesn't want to talk to anybody today. Yeah. Even when I was touring with him.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I wish I could be more like that. Like, because there are times I don't want to talk to somebody. I wish I could just not. I respect him for it I'm right there with you it's like I wish that there would be days that I could just be like yeah I don't want to deal with anybody today
Starting point is 00:02:30 and everybody would be like oh that's just yeah that's so him so he didn't want to talk to anybody today so we're good maybe my band is going to watch this and be like dude we do that all the time all the time yeah
Starting point is 00:02:40 when you're on a butt I mean I have had the pleasure of living on a tour bus when I did Dancing with the Stars tour and it's you're tight corners very tight quarters like how oh my God this whole time it, I thought it was tight corners.
Starting point is 00:02:54 No, tight quarters. You thought it was corners? Till, I'm 39 years old and I thought it was tight corners this whole time. You know, I actually just had a extremely awkward, all right, this is on this topic. Yeah. Let me get there. No, go. Roll with it.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So my best friend in college, I live with him, and he was dating a girl. Yeah. That would always say, plant it by year. Okay. So one night. Oh, year. Yes, plant it by year. So one night I was like, I heard her say it.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And I was like, hey, what are you, what are you saying again? And she's like, plan it by year. And I was like, it's play it by year. And she's like, no. And either way, we had like the thing. And I brought it up. We had just got back to the beach. We had just got back from the beach this past weekend with him.
Starting point is 00:03:41 His now wife, which was not his girlfriend that said plan it by year. Oh, okay. I brought that story up because I thought it was her. Oh, no. But it was this ex that did not. get along they did not get along and I told that I was like Brooke you remember whenever you said that
Starting point is 00:03:57 and my buddy was like that was a Lexus you asshole that was my ex-girlfriend I hate it I hate it so anyway do you see probably gonna do that a few times I just totally went on a tangent there well welcome to Off the Vine podcast that's what I do on a regular basis
Starting point is 00:04:13 my producer will be like hey like trying to remember to circle back on things because you go all over the freaking place but that's it's my style. Okay, I learned something new on this podcast. I was feeling very brain dead this morning. I have not been like drinking to the point of like feeling hung over the next day in a minute. And the last two times I have it was with Carly Pierce. That girl likes some wine. I can put, I can drink wine like it's, I have a wine label. I drink wine a lot. But I have never met somebody who can outdrink me in wine. And like she's still herself. She can. She's good. She's had some practice. Yeah. Wait, did you know, did you tell one on last night? We a little bit. We a little bit. I mean, wait, why were you not at the People's Choice Awards? I guess people didn't choose me to be there. So you're telling me like absolute Z-List TikTokers can be on the red carpet and you didn't get the invite.
Starting point is 00:05:03 That's stupid. Maybe D-List. That's stupid. No, I probably like, I did have a very busy week, the week before. So like we had a, like, CMA did a Teachers Hall of Fame event. I could be guilty in saying that maybe I. You probably missed the email. I probably did.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I probably missed the email. You guys missed the email. Was it fun? Yeah, it was really fun. So Carly and I have been trying to get together because we're pretty close and like we haven't had like dinner and like catch up in so long that we're like we need to bring like a binder and go over notes of like what's happened in the last year. And so we went to dinner the other night and put back like a few bottles of wine.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And the next day I was like, I think I woke up at whatever way too late and was just an absolute piece of shit the whole day. And Carly was like, I had to be up at 5.30 for like a phoneer and then I had to do this interview. And I was like, I don't know how you did it. She was like, whatever. And I was like, what? And then last night, she's so funny because she will not drink shitty wine either, which I respect. And like she brought her own wine to the show.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Oh, that's boozy. Yeah. That's boozy, Carly. And she would have like it. I like it. I respect it. She would have that they would pour us wine and then bring it out. And I hope that's not an illegal move.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Well, that's also smart because sometimes it's tough to get wine at those shows. Though the bar is so backed up. And that's what like it's always, I've learned that from Old Dominion is you always bring a flask. Ah. You know what? My mom taught me that when I went to prom. She was, she packed me a flask. Yeah, she did.
Starting point is 00:06:33 That's pretty awesome. It was, I've told this story on the podcast a few times. So sorry for repeating myself. But these girls were like kind of mean to me in high school, but they were my group of friends. Well, a couple of them were mean and a couple of them were like my best friends. And they had to have a meeting and vote to see if they wanted me to come in the limo with them. Oh, my God. Mean girls.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And I ended up sitting in the front seat of the limo by myself drinking a flask. I had a great time. I mean, I about to say that actually sounds like a pretty awesome night. I was like, I didn't have to deal with them being weird back there. It was a freaking high school. And I just sat my mom put peach schnops in a flask for me. That's a good starter. Yeah, a little starter kit.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That's a great start. How to prep your liver for Nashville in Canada. I feel like Canadians' livers know what's up. Y'all are, we're about to start. We started a tour in Canada, I think Friday. We're starting in Toronto, London, Ontario. Oh. Starting in, like, Quebec and then Halifax.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Nice. Moncton. Do you go to the West Coast at all? Yeah, yeah. We'll do like Calgary. Are you doing Edmonton? Edmonton. You are?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yes. My niece is 16. Freaked out that you were coming on my podcast today. Oh, no way. She lives in Edmonton, so I'll tell her that you're coming because she, yeah, she nerded out. I did not know that she. She, I knew she was a country fan, but I didn't know how big. She, like, almost started crying yesterday when I told her I was with Carly, and I didn't even know she knew who that was.
Starting point is 00:07:56 She messaged me and even used a swear word about how excited she was that you were coming on the podcast. Well, tell her, I've got her and her friend's tickets for the Emily's. She will cry. No, I'm serious. That'd be awesome. Oh, and she's such a sweetheart. She's not like a shitty 16-year-old. Like, I feel like she's like, I know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:14 She's not the one that was talking about you in the limo and probably. Yeah, no, she's not. Exactly. Exactly. And she, I also, when I was 16, I was kind of like a rebel. She's just like a good kid. Yeah. And she's just like, she's had a boyfriend for two years. Wow. At 16. And they're like committed. Like they, she has a promise ring. Oh, God. They still do that apparently. It was not me. Oh, you'll have, have you toured in Canada before? Yeah. It's amazing. Isn't it so fun? It's true like one of like, and I'm not saying this because I'm talking to you or we're about to do it. Like the crowd's up there. I think any time, you know, whether it's Canada, or Europe, and we're going to Australia in January.
Starting point is 00:08:51 You know, I just think the fact that you don't get a chance to get over there as much, and, you know, they're just very appreciative of it. It feels like there's no, they're just there to have a good time. There's, like, no, like, hanging back and still trying to be cool. No, no. They are ready to let go. Yeah, they do. They do, and I feel like they appreciate country music.
Starting point is 00:09:10 What's going on with Europe all of a sudden being big country fans? Huge. And it shocked me. Has that always been a thing? I think the first time I went over there was 2019. I went over tour with Old Dominion over there and like we just did a C to C and then just went back earlier this year
Starting point is 00:09:27 and it was like fat it was it was unbelievable I mean A to get to see you know a different part of the world but then for them to like know the music as well as they did I mean it was amazing that's cool I do feel like like that I grew up listening to country music I feel like I don't know if it's a Canadian thing
Starting point is 00:09:47 but I think it is like I think Canadians really like country music. Yeah, you are fired up about it. I agree. And I guess it's still going because my 16-year-old niece, like still country music is, I feel like it's also making a comeback. Yeah. Like, I feel like country music is it again.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. And I think, too, a lot of it's just how kind of wide range it's been like, you know, you have, you know, your traditional country artists and then you have your pop country artist or, you know, wherever it just feels like there's kind of something for everybody. It doesn't have to just be one thing. So it's been cool to see. That is cool. Did you know that I wrote a song once?
Starting point is 00:10:22 No way. I did. It went number one on Apple music, like above Justin Bieber. Are you kidding? No, I'm serious. You know what it was? It was hate downloads. People were like, kind of your reaction.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Wait a second. How? Then you're a songwriter. I guess so. Should we write after the pocket? Do you want me to come on tour with you? Because I will be your opener. I've got one song and one song only.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Wait, what's the name of this song? If I'm being honest. And it's a great title. Do you know who Jen Denmark is by any chance? There's so many songwriters in this town, but she's like a dear friend of mine and she's amazing. I think she helped write Kelsey Ballerini's like Peter Pan song that really like started her career. Yeah, fantastic song. So she, I just love singing.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Like I have since I was little, I was in musical theater. And when I came to Nashville, I didn't come here for music. But I was like, oh, I found myself in like circles with singers and songwriters. And I'd be like, I would like to do that. So I started taking voice lessons here. And then, yeah, I ended up writing a song with Jen and I think people had that reaction like, can she sing? And so because people were so curious, I got so many downloads that it went to number one. And I was just like shitting my pants. Like what is happening? Like I just kept seeing it. And I woke up one morning. It was number one. And I'm like, it was like a Beaver song had just come out. Jonas Brothers and like somebody else. And I was number one. And I just I still am going to put that on my tombstone like that. I don't know how that happened. It's very fun. I think you need to write another song.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Well, I've tried. Oh, you have. Okay. Nothing is good, though. Or you just like cut it off as like, no, I'm going out on top. I want to be one hit wonder. I think that's cool. Like, I'm not here trying to be a singer.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I just, I was thinking about it though because I like knowing how people got their starts. And I was like, I bet he doesn't know that I too am a songwriter. I did not know that you had a number one. How did you get like your start? Where are you from first of? I'm from Shreveport, Louisiana, northwest Louisiana. Okay. And you grew up like, six.
Starting point is 00:12:15 singing and playing instruments or no? I grew up around, like, country music. So my uncle was a songwriter, moved to Nashville in the late 80s. My dad, you know, always kind of picked guitar around the house, made-up songs. My mom played piano. Oh, cool. I love musical families. Yeah, so it was just kind of like music was always around.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I mean, like country music from a young age, my dad was always, you know, love songwriter. So I kind of fell in love with the guys that he was listening to, which was Christofferson, John Prime, Jim Crosy, these kind of. older you know legendary songwriters yeah i don't think there's a ton of young kids you know listening to john prion who is one of my favorites but uh yeah yeah i kind of just like you know knew that my uncle stan had written songs you know this was back when the i guess they'll say the golden era of country like the 90s you know that the when country music was i mean just icons yeah and um tracy lawrence had cut a couple of my uncle songs and so it was
Starting point is 00:13:15 was cool for us to kind of, you know, be driving around, listening to 93-7 country radio station in Shreveport and hear when Uncle Stan songs. But yeah, so, and, but I think after that, too, it's after high school, you know, I messed around with writing songs, but moved to college and figured I'd just do the nine to five thing. Really? What did you, did you work in nine to five? For a little bit. I graduated in 2000, yeah, 2012, 2011. I was working for an environmental company. So I went to school for environmental science So I thought I was going to be in oil and gas And I was working for an environmental company out of Baton Rouge
Starting point is 00:13:53 Worked there for probably four or five months Worked that from 5 a.m. to three And then I would bartend from six to 11. I know that life. Yeah. I worked for a roofing company 9 to 5 and then I would bartend at night. What did you do at a roofing company? I'd sales.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Okay. I thought you about to, I thought I was about, to look like a jerk because you were just going to be like a roof houses yeah no it was my buddy's company and I like I was moving to Germany um for six months and I wanted to work two jobs before I went yeah and so he was like you can come like I would like I was doing cold calls I'd drive around and look at people's roofs and like go knock on doors and be like you need a new roof ma'am the weirdest like I don't know how I did it but I was good yeah yeah that's awesome but anyways well then you get it you get the I get the I get the I get
Starting point is 00:14:45 the hustle. Yeah. But that's, so what was the moment where you were like, I'm going to lean fully into country music? So my brother, me and my brother were, went to LSU at the same time. And we lived together for three years that I was there. And he had started playing around Baton Rouge. And he was kind of writing songs, but more so like, you know, playing after football games or like, you know, every night in college is like, you know, Taco Tuesdays, you know, $2 Wednesdays, two for one. Thursdays. Thirsty Thursdays.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah. Yeah. So he was playing all those bars, and he'd have like a three-hour cover set, and he just play a bunch of country songs, you know, whatever was popular at the time. And he had kind of gained, like, a pretty good following around Louisiana. And then in 2010, he moved to Nashville, signed a publishing deal, you know, kind of started working in the music business and writing songs and trying to get a band together and all that stuff. So I was still in Baton Rouge and was just kind of like, well, I mean, I love to write songs, but I had never played.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I'd never done anything. So I would write him songs and send him, like, ideas that I'd started. And it was finally in 2012 where I sent him a couple little phone work tapes. And he had played it for somebody here in Nashville, a friend of still a friend of mine of this day. and he called me one morning and it was kind of it was one of those weird things too where like I'd gone out the night before
Starting point is 00:16:19 woke up like two hours late for my job had like 10 missed calls from my boss and I hate that feeling it was terrible to be honestly when I said that I still like go right back to that moment and I look down and I'm just like I'm gonna get fired and I need to get my clothes on
Starting point is 00:16:36 and get to work so I get up and I'm walking down the stairs and I have this unknown 6-1-1-1-1 five number call me and it was my buddy robert philhart and he called me he said hey your brother played me some songs and this is the time where i'm like walking down the stairs like dude i'm so late yeah but i also knew it was a music guy and i'd heard his name from jacob so i was like i kind of need to talk to this guy yeah and he was like man i heard some songs and i think you need to move to nashville and try to be a songwriter and that was the first kind of domino that i didn't get fired that day but I did get pretty good pretty good ass chewing but like I you know kind of put my two
Starting point is 00:17:16 weeks in you like hot jokes on you I'm leaving yeah I was like I think I'm gonna move to Nashville but yeah that was when you know my brother kind of starting the music thing and moving to Nashville so it wasn't like I was moving up here with nothing right you know nothing going on or not knowing anybody having Jacob here was was pretty helpful oh that's amazing was there I always like to talk about people's rock bottoms. Did you have a moment where you're like I'm going to quit and like this is awful and hard and I don't want to do it anymore? A few of them. Yeah. I think like I had this like it was so easy for or not easy that's not a fair word to put on it but like with Jacob it happened so quick and you know he had moved up here got a got a job writing songs and started talking to labels
Starting point is 00:18:03 about signing record deals and all within like a year and a half and so I was moving up here thinking like, all right, well, I'll give it two years. And then I'll have a publishing deal and I'll start doing stuff in music business. And I'd had like, I think I had like $3,800 saved, you know, when I moved to Nashville. And I was thinking like, well, this at least get me, you know, half a year. It was gone in like two months. Yeah. And I was struggling finding a job.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I couldn't get a job bartending anywhere. I finally found a job probably five or six months in that I wasn't really. really big on, but they were great to me and I enjoyed it. But there's a few kind of rock bottom moments there. I think the first one is like when you're starting to write with people, you know, maybe a year in, and they're kind of starting to get signed and you feel like you're kind of getting left behind. You know, there were some things where it's like,
Starting point is 00:18:56 dang, maybe I'm not good enough to do this. But, I mean, I didn't sign my postage deal until I was five years in Nashville. Oh, really? I remember there was a night. I went over to my brother's probably four years in. They kind of broke down and was like, man, I'm kind of over this. You know, and I was, and I moved to Nashville a little later. So, like, you know, my buddies were getting married.
Starting point is 00:19:17 People were calling me being like, hey, so-and-so's pregnant, you know. I'm still like, I'm like still bartending and like, you know, I'm like telling him I'm up here doing music, but I'm not doing music. And that was one where I was kind of like, dang. How'd you get out of it? Jag it was big. My brother was big on kind of talking me out of it. I got a piece of advice from Robert, the guy that gave me the phone call to move up here. And I was kind of like down on myself.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And I was like, man, you know, I think I'm writing great stuff. And, you know, nobody really cares. And I can't get a deal. And I'm still bartending and I'm whatever. And he told me, he said, man, Nashville was perfectly fine when you moved up here. And it's going to be perfectly fine when it kicks your ass and you move home. And that was when I was like, all right. I guess like the, you know, the kind of competitive side of like, all right, I'm going to make this work.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like, I'm going to figure out a way to, you know, and luckily things kind of started, started happening. Don't you feel like that's always the case? It's after like a, like, I want to give up. I'm quitting everything. I hate everything. And then when you push through it is when the magic happens. It's a, yeah, you kind of get your back against the wall. And that's kind of, I felt like I was kind of there. It was like, you know, and even with him, he's like, man, you said it was two years. And like now you bumped it to four years. and now you want to go back home again. So what is it? You're going to give it another year?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah. And, you know, too, I wasn't, like, I was enjoying being in Nashville. I wasn't, like, truly focusing or writing as hard as I probably should have been writing, and preparing the way I should have. And so, yeah, that was, like, after that kind of conversation, I kind of started changing the way I approached writing and kind of backed off on working as much at the bar and started working on writing songs more, and things started to kind of, you know. What was the moment where you're like, got it?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Well, I wrote a song that I was like really, really proud of. And, you know, I'd done that, you know, for, I'm not going to say a bunch, but there was four or five songs in that five-year period where I was like, all right, now this, I know. I really know that this is just as good as anybody else's, or at least deserves just as much shot as anybody else. I wrote a song that I still ended up going and did well, slow dance in a parking lot and i was like man this feels like it's it could be cut and all that and i
Starting point is 00:21:38 played it for somebody and they were like man we're this is this is good uh you know we want to kind of started talking to me about getting a record deal and i'd never played a show i never like i said i didn't move to town to to to be a singer or do this but i was kind of so desperate that i was like uh yeah i'll yeah i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm a record deal And I kind of had to learn how to sing and play with the band really quick. Oh, gosh. But that's kind of what, that was the first. That song kind of started the process of me getting my first deal.
Starting point is 00:22:19 What was your biggest song? Like, to this day, what is your biggest song? Probably by dirt. Yeah. I'm obsessed with that song, by the way. Thank you. I love that song. I mean, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Me and Jake wrote it. Thank you. And I actually had breakfast this morning with the team that wrote that one. And I think that's what makes it kind of special too. You know, I love those guys so much. But like, I mean, next thing you know, as it continues to, it feels like it is right up there with it. It's like picking your, I hate to say this because I do have kids, but it's like picking your favorite kid. So who's your favorite kid?
Starting point is 00:22:55 My daughter. 100%. She knows that. Do you have a girl Anna boy? I have a girl and two boys. Two boys? You have three kids. I do.
Starting point is 00:23:03 How did you meet your wife? Oh, God. We met in, so said college roommate, this was probably, so this was 2016, so I just started kind of getting things going in Nashville. I was kind of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. I was about to sign a publishing deal and stop bartending, which was a huge thing for me. It's a good feeling. But I was still broke as hell.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And my buddy got married and the wedding was in New Orleans, but we stayed in home. and I had no I had to like I remember I'd max my credit card out going going down there like getting a plane ticket going down I was in the hotel lobby after the rehearsal dinner and she came in she was down there at another wedding and I saw her and two friends and I was like dang who is that and went over I've been drinking and went over and asked them her and her and her ask her and her friends who what they were how they knew Brooke, who was getting married. And they were at a different wedding.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And they were at a different wedding. Oh, funny. So I jumped in the hotel with them, or in the elevator with them. I was like, oh, okay. Get it. You know? I jumped in the elevator with them and told them that they should come back to the lobby and party with us. And they did.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Eventually they did. She didn't want to let me know what floor she was on because I think she was very creeped out. So we rode the elevator up and down. for probably three times we did have a bottle of tequila with us we brought we brought it was actually it probably had its ups and downs
Starting point is 00:24:37 well that was a thing hey nice I had to point it's not a good joke when you have to point it out I was no I caught it I got it okay I should have let it ride I was like yeah right guys it's funny
Starting point is 00:24:48 okay sorry go on I thought that like this was going great and even like this was after a couple months of us dating that I was like yeah we I like met her and we had like you know
Starting point is 00:24:59 We called her an elevator party. We were just like drinking tequila, riding the elevator up and down. She was like, that was not a party. She was like, I didn't want to let you know what room, what floor I was on. I was like, oh, totally misread that. But, yeah, that's how we met. An elevator party? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:15 She's like, absolutely not. Yeah. That's funny. And how long ago is that? Yeah, 2016. And you have three kids? Wow, what are their ages? Five, three and one.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Cute. Yeah. Wow. How old are you? 36 you're 36 three kids married and going on tour does the fam ever come on tour a couple weekends that's a big job yeah that's a lot yeah that's a lot it makes my days really long I know it's terrible so no that that's a lot three kids and well because you
Starting point is 00:25:47 probably have like a routine that you do when you're like kind of kind of throws the because you gotta wake up deal with the kids yeah and God I'm sounding like a terrible dad right now. I mean, they probably get it. Anybody, any, you know, uh, no, people the kids get it. It's like, uh, you know, I think if I'll still do it if we're like super busy and I just need time with the fam. Yeah. We'll get another bus to come out and we'll just kind of take that bus over and, and we usually try to do it on weekends where it's not like crazy, busy outside of just the show. Yeah. But it's fun when they're out. I think it'll get, it'll be more fun here in a couple years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Three and one is
Starting point is 00:26:26 busy well five two but three and one I feel like that's yeah yeah and like in Canada when you go on tour will like do you get to fly home in between or you just like on the road that whole time now the first week we're up there for eight or nine days uh because we have a couple midweek shows and then I'll come home after that it just goes to the weekends and I'll come home during the weeks but yeah it's been I mean this year's just been busy and and it doesn't even feel like we've, it hasn't been a super busy show year, but we've just done, I've done a lot of things outside of like music, like taking trips and award shows or different opportunities pop up that I've just been going a lot. It feels like. How do you like keep the marriage alive when
Starting point is 00:27:10 you're on the road and busy like that? I wonder how people keep marriage alive with children in general. Yeah. Yeah. I was about to say, add that. She would probably argue, uh, She would probably say it different that I would. It's tough. I mean, like, we've definitely had some, I think with the young one this year, it's been the, it's, we've had some knockdown dragouts. Yeah. You know, you kind of get off the road and, you know, you're coming home to a not, not so warm household. And you're like, I just want to sleep for 10 days.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah, you just want to kind of relax and rest up. But I think you just have to make the most of the time at home. Yeah. We just recently hear of kind of re-implemented date night, like something you just kind of have to do. Yeah, that's what I've heard. You know, I mean, we are no strangers to putting the kids to bed and sitting on the couch and drinking wine. Yeah. There's something about kind of getting out and still going and doing something.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Because it's one of those things where you dread it and then once you get out, not that you dread the date, but you dread getting, like, ready and getting out of the house and going somewhere and you're like, it's so easy to just crawl into bed right now or like hang on on the couch and not go out. But once you do it, you're like, that's amazing. I still hate doing it. Yeah. Like the process of, damn, she listens to this podcast. Sorry, babe. Does she really? Oh, bless.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I don't hate. All right. How am I backing out of this one? Getting dressed, finding a place to go, getting there, walking in. You're just like, damn, this sucks. Like, why can we just stay at the house? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:48 But it forces you to have different conversations, I feel like when you get out. I know. Yeah. You know, like you said, like when you're. you're done with it. You're like, all right, I'm glad we do that. Yeah. It's good to get out the house for a little bit. I don't know why I always think of like going to the gym, like the hardest part is getting your shoes on. It's just one of those things where it sounds like a luxury to like be able to go out and do things, but like sometimes it is exhausting to just go do it. And then every time it's
Starting point is 00:29:10 like going to the gym, you come out of it and you're like, why don't we do that more often? I love that. Yeah. Do you cold plunge? I have a cold plunge. I have a cold plunge. I have a sauna and a Cold Plunge and I'm, I think I'm like a little bit addicted to it, actually. Are you really? You should get one. No, I have one. I'm terrified of it. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Oh, I love it. I'm like excited to do it. Like, I'm going to do it in the rain today. Are you really? Sure. So you're like every day you're, are you kind of that regimented? I'm, I travel a lot and I feel like I love having my routine when I get home and that is part of it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But I'm, I'm a go with the flow kind of gal. Like, every day is different for me. But Sana and Cold Plunge to me is like. something that I'll usually do five times a week. So I could do a sauna. I could live in a sauna. Yeah. But.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I'm the opposite. I could live it. You don't like the sauna? No, I love it. I only love it infrared. Oh, see, I like the, I like the one where you pour the water on the rocks. So I just did a podcast called Beat the Heat, and it's as long as you can last in one of those saunas, and the heat goes up every five minutes. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And if you get a trivia question wrong, they put water on it. I almost died. I'm not being dramatic. I think I almost died. That's a genius idea for a podcast. I was like, how's he going to do this? Because how are the mics and the cameras not going to overheat? And like, how are you going to get a clear video with all the steam?
Starting point is 00:30:31 But they've got a setup going on over there. His name's Todd Anderson. He came on my podcast once. He's like a sleep expert. And his wife is Katie Hoff. She was an Olympic swimmer. Yeah. And yeah, he's got a unreal setup over there.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And I lasted 17 minutes. It's actually pretty good. I was like, I'm very competitive. I can't do 17 minutes in a sauna. You should have seen how, like, I'm not being dramatic. I was gagging. Like, I was like, I'm going to throw up. I'm going to faint.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Like, I'm not well. I need out. And he was like, no, you're fine. I'm like, no, I'm actually not. And I had to get out at 17 minutes. And I was like, you really need to start with the juicy questions because he was just like getting better as you go. But I was like, I need out of ear now.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like, I couldn't even see straight. And it was, I don't know how hot, definitely over 200 degrees. Yeah. I mean, they're usually, that's, that's cooking. Oh, and he would pour, he asked me like Canadian trivia questions to like hockey things that I thought I would know. But at that point, I'm just like, I don't know, just 12 Stanley Cups, I don't know. And then he's like, wrong. And he pulls out.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, yeah. You miss every, what is the Wayne Gretzky quote? You miss every, 100% of the shots you don't take. Yeah. That's what I'm just quoting Wayne Gretzky and Michael Scott. And Michael Scott, of course, yeah. But every, I actually yelled like, ow, at one. point because he poured so much water on it that the steam was like hurting my skin and I was like
Starting point is 00:31:52 this is torture like I said first of all you're making me sit here in a bathing suit which I'm already feeling exposed no makeup on my face now I've got furnace face it's like a pouring sweat I can't answer questions properly and I'm like talking about how competitive I am and I only last 17 minutes where the longest you can last is 30 and he's had other people on the podcast who did the 30 minutes now Hannah Brown who is also in the bachelor world she's like a beast and she's one like What's that competition show where it's special forces? Yeah, I can't remember what it was called. She won special forces.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Like she is just, she lasted 30 minutes and I was like, I will too. Yeah. And then 17. I was like, come me out of here. It was awful. She was in one of my music videos. Hannah? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Almost maybe. Oh, my God, wait. That's when she gave me COVID. Oh, is it really? Yes. Was this in like 2020, 2021? Yeah. It was during COVID.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah, it was during COVID. Yes. Okay. So she stayed at my house while she filmed your music video. Because she was, yeah, she drove up and she stayed. And she had to test every day for COVID for your shoot. Yeah. And on the last day, she came in and she stayed at my house and we had sushi.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And it was the only person I let in my house because I'd been quarantining to go home for Christmas. Yeah. And she was like, I've been testing every day. So I'm safe. And she came over. And the next day she was like, Caitlin, I have COVID. And I was like, no. And I had to miss family Christmas because.
Starting point is 00:33:18 No, no. Yeah. So I blame you. You actually probably came. You ruined Christmas for me in 2020. Because I feel like I got COVID too. Yeah, you probably did. I feel like I had COVID like nine times. I think I have it right now. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I mean, I probably do too. But like it. It was a thing where it's like. So she was in your music video. Yeah. Okay. Now it's all coming together now that I remember this whole story. And that was you. Wow. Crazy. Yeah, yeah. So she lasted 30 minutes in the sauna. And I was like, I was like. I was like. I was like, it's all coming together. And I was. I was. like, if she could do it, I could do it. And I could not. That's, it's, yeah. So I love an infrared sauna. That's what I have in my backyard. And then, like, I'll do 15 minutes at 170. And then I cold plunge for three minutes. And then I do three rounds of that. I love it. The cold only, like, when I came out of the sauna from doing that podcast, I had to lay down because I was, I was really going to vomit. And then after my body cooled down, I got in the cold plunge. I could have stayed in there all day. Oh, yeah. You're like just that hot. I think it's the Canadian in me. I mean, y'all are, y'all deal with some very cold weather.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Edmonton, my sister showed me a photo like two winters ago where on the inside of the door handle was iced because it was so cold outside the inside. It's unreal. We were just talking about this because we have like, this is the last time we were up there and we had an off night in this little town. I can't even remember that it was in between Vancouver and Calgary maybe. I mean, one stoplight, one bar. It's probably where I grew up. We parked behind a, oh, my God, I'm blanking on the big gas station that everybody loves. Oh, Shelly hose.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Oh, that's not a gas station? Well, okay, it's, you can get gas there. Why does he shell? You can't get gas at Tim Hortons? Can you not? No. They probably have like a gas station where they serve Tim Horton's coffee in there. That may be one thing enough.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Okay. Maybe we should edit this out. Oh, the Canadians are like, no, they'll just want to, like, they'll all bring you Tim Hortons's like gift cards. Yeah. All right, well, we were part behind a Tim Hortless that did not serve gas. Okay. And it was like negative 15. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And you can't even be outside. Negative 15. That's Fahrenheit too. So Celsius, that's like, yeah, that's painful. For me is like Louisiana where like 65 is a little chilly. Oh, that's balmy. It's like we were, because it was the only bar. So we would just get off the bus, bundled up and just sprint.
Starting point is 00:35:46 to the bar. Do you kind of love it? For like a minute, not like you have to live in it, but I feel like when 18 is a legal drinking age in where I grew up just outside of Edmonton. And like going bar hopping at 18, I remember it would just sober you up.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And I think that's why Canadians can drink because you just keep going. You walk outside and that cold away. It doesn't matter how drunk you are. No. You got to get it together. You feel it. Well, wait, what months are we in?
Starting point is 00:36:15 It's going to be really nice. It's going to be nice, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what else do you have coming up that you're excited? Like, what projects do you have coming up that you're excited about? That's a fantastic question. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Came up with it myself. Well, we had the wrapping up tour, we just, we're trying to wrap up our album right now. We get a new album coming out early next year, which I'm really excited about. Yeah. Working on that. I mean, in all honesty, like excited for some downtime. Yeah. Fair.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I love to, you know, hunting fish. So, like, you would. close to Christmas time is like special to me yeah and to be honest with you like well needed yeah after you know I mean we've been going since January yeah oh my gosh so like the two months of being able to go to the farm hang out hang out with the kids yeah see family they always come up here for Christmas do you have animals dogs and chickens and stuff yeah what do you mean and stuff yeah dogs and stuff okay what kind of dog I think I feel like it's like I could come home to my wife really wants goats so i'm just waiting i do too until we have some but so you have land
Starting point is 00:37:23 you bought dirt yeah but not not that i live like we have a farm two hours outside of town oh that's so fun it's like for mostly for hunting but the kids love going out there and i bet it's fun oh i love that well if you finish your tour in the west coast of canada you should just take a couple extra days to yourself and go to Hydegui. It's the best fishing. Hydegui. It's the best salmon fishing. I had salmon for years after I went fishing out there. And you can like yes. And I saw, I'm wondering what time of year I went where
Starting point is 00:37:55 there was just whales like breaching beside the fishing boat like every 20 minutes. It was magical. I was up there a couple months ago in Terrace, British Columbia. Okay, yeah, yeah. And we were salmon fishing on the Skeena River, I think it was. but that is I've never been saying fish
Starting point is 00:38:16 it's unreal Isn't it the best It's awesome It's I'm not like a huge Fisher I enjoy it But like I always go fishing With my family in the summers But hideaguay
Starting point is 00:38:25 This place that we went It was like a three day Off the grid No cell phone Cabin It's pretty awesome Like it was mean Like I think like 50
Starting point is 00:38:33 65 year old men Just fishing Just fishing Catching salmon Man it was crazy We would take a helicopter from this cabin and then go...
Starting point is 00:38:44 That's what we did. It's... Sorry, I can't go off all. No, that's exactly like... It was just like the, like, flying by the mountains, like, goats and stuff climbing up the mountain. It was awesome. So I lived in Vancouver for 11 years.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Vancouver Special. Oh, it's, I go back all the time and it's just, it's, I call it my happy place. It's, I just, I loved it. I lived downtown for 11 years, worked in the restaurant industry, and I thought that was, I thought that was my career. Yeah. It shifted and we switched gears a little bit, but. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I loved a living there. Yeah. It's a beautiful city. Where can people go to find tickets for tour? Jordan Davis official.com? Yeah. Yeah, they should be all on. And what can people expect from the new album that's going to come up?
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yeah, I'm excited about it. I have a new song coming out called Know You Like That, a song that's kind of, I feel like I've always been drawn to like nostalgic songs. Yeah. Um, it's like one of my, somebody told me early on, I don't know, it was like the most powerful emotion is nostalgia. Ah. That sounds so cheesy. No.
Starting point is 00:39:52 That just made me, things that make you go, huh? I know. It's like, I was, I was just always, like, drawn to those songs. And this one is one that kind of goes back. And, um, you know, I just think it's, it's going to strike that for a lot of people. I love that. Say it again. What's the title?
Starting point is 00:40:08 Uh, no, you like that. And it's going to come out in when? Three weeks? Yeah. October. Actually, I don't know when... October 25th? October 25th.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I was going to say, I'm like, I don't know when this podcast comes out, but we'll make sure it's... Yeah, yeah. October 25th. Okay. Oh, my sister follows, like, this TikTok account of nostalgic, like, things from the 90s. She sends me things all the time on it, and I'm, like, overwhelmed with joy. It's a rabbit hole. I'll stay on it for hours.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Same. Oh, my gosh. What year were you born? I was 88. Okay. Yeah. So you, same things. Like gushers and, like, fruit by the foot.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Like, all those. By the foot? Oh my God, yes. It's crazy. Ah, and like even, did you have the Fisher Price McDonald's drive-thru? Absolutely. Oh, I love it all. I'm going to send you the page that she follows for you to go down a rabbit hole.
Starting point is 00:40:58 It'll put me to sleep in like a good mood. Nickelodeon, all that stuff. All of it. Are you afraid of the dark? Yes. Oh, my gosh. They used to terrify me. Yush.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Like all that like TGIF. Oh, TGIF. Wait, I'm dead. The Carl, the dad from Family Matters is on Dancing with the Stars right now, and I'm like, rooting for him, yeah. Carl Winslow. Carl Winslow was a good man. And I heard that he's an even better man in person.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah, Emma is dancing with him, and she said he's an absolute angel. I'm like, that's so cute. He is a good man. And great dad. Yeah, great dad. He's a great TV dad. Amazing. Okay, well, I can't wait for your song to come out.
Starting point is 00:41:36 This last record I wrote a lot about, like, you know, I feel like I got kind of personal wrote about my parents divorce wrote about some things that I struggle with and so I kind of wanted to get away from a really deep record and wanted to kind of go back to having fun
Starting point is 00:41:57 making an album. Nice. And so this is kind of going back to what I truly fell in love with recording songs first. Yeah. Kind of more of my first album, Home State. Just getting back to having fun and recording songs that feel good. And who is on tour with you in Canada?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Mitchell Tenpenny and Ashley Cook. Oh, cool. Also, didn't you tour with Luke Combs? I did. I did. I did this year, and we're going to Australia together. Oh, nice. I say together.
Starting point is 00:42:25 He asked me to come open the shows in Australia, and I jumped all over it. Yeah. That's a good one. But yeah, Luke is good as gold. He had the same trainer as me for a minute, Kevin Klug. Oh, yeah. I feel like Klug's trained three quarters in Nashville. Especially in the country.
Starting point is 00:42:40 music industry yeah definitely yeah but he's he's great yeah I've never worked out with clue because I hear it's terrible it's honestly I I don't know what I I pull up in his driveway and I go why am I doing this to myself like why am I doing this but at the end of it I'm like I like feel so strong like I had to I just hired my buddy Alex who's a trainer and he goes down the road with us and he just comes to my house and he will wake me up he will like he started where he just wakes me up on the road like he'll slide my bunk open
Starting point is 00:43:14 and just be like get up put your shoes on working out and I love that and I always be like I will do it this afternoon and he's like no gotta get over with in the morning
Starting point is 00:43:23 but like now it's like I'll get to the house and I can hear him in my kitchen being like get up making himself a shake wake up that's amazing that's so Clug Fitness
Starting point is 00:43:33 they have people that will go to your house and do that too it was so funny I had this guy Jackson and Boyd come train me at my house. And my driveway is like, like, goes out to a, like, people are just walking right there. And it felt like I was, like, putting on a show for all of my neighbors.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm like, hello. Like, just everybody was, like, walking by. Kids were, like, going to school. And I was just like listening to Drake, just like up and iron. I was like, hey, kids. That's the thing with him is he listens to chaperone. He's a huge chaperone thing. So it's like, all the kids are getting ready for school and we're just jamming Pink Pony Club.
Starting point is 00:44:07 It's the best song ever. I literally dance every time I hear that song. It is a great. It is a great song. It's such a good song. Okay, before I let you go, we're just doing a little rapid fire into a confession. Did they prep you for this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Okay. Because Kane Brown, this was the thing. They were like, yeah, he's prepped. And then I was like, I heard you have a confession for me. He was like, no. I was like, cool, man. I had a different confession, but now I'm switching it to now. You can tell me both.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It was something that happened during the podcast that now I have to confess to. Do it now. If you don't mind. Wow, that was aggressive. Do it now. I'm like your trainer. So this was after we just wrapped up the music video with Hannah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And we were like, hey, and we were like teasing her being in the video. Like we posted a couple of like photos, like mysterious photos of like who is the girl that's in the video and all that stuff. And I think she had, and the plan was like I was like she had like commented on a photo of mine. and, like, I was in a comment on a photo of hers. She had posted this photo of her in, like, I don't know, maybe it's California. Maybe she was somewhere else, but she was in a pool. Yeah. And I thought, this is showing my lack of social awareness and how long I've been out of the game in social media.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I thought the photo was fire in my mind. All right. So I went with, and a little more background to defend myself here. I always go three emojis. me too what is that so it's like if i'm gonna fist yeah yeah okay if i'm gonna fist bump you i'm gonna fist bump three yeah all right if we're gonna if we're gonna go thumbs up it's thumbs up three times i do that too weird i thought again oh no fire photo yeah i went with three flames okay oh she appeared to be not in not a bathing suit oh so i i think she was naked but like you couldn't see it's just like she's in the water yeah maybe
Starting point is 00:46:06 I don't know. Okay. I guess we're going to find out after this. But it was like totally just me being an idiot or maybe not thinking like, oh, somebody may take this is like different. And I got absolutely roasted for like, again, I'm not a great social media person. So like I look at my Instagram and it's just like notifications going crazy. And I was like, oh, damn, this worked. Yeah, you're like great.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I was like, this is a great idea. And it was like, everybody commenting on that being like, you piece of shit, you have three kids, you have a wife, like, this guy's married, da-da-da-da-da. And it was, I don't know, it was late. So I like didn't, I like text my, I didn't have a social media guy. Yeah. So I called my manager and I'm like, bro, we got, we got a major problem here, dude. Amber alert, the sounds going off on his phone. I like finally call him in the morning.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And I'm like, hey, dude, I commented three flames on a Hannah Brown. He's like, what photo? And he goes to it. He's like, bro, you can't do that. And I was like, yeah, I'd be looking at it now. Like, I probably shouldn't have, I probably could have gone with something else. Was your wife like, yeah, maybe not? I kind of, I showed her too.
Starting point is 00:47:20 She was like, why did you do that? I thought that was a fire photo. She was like, no, that means you think she's hot. I was like, all right, could have made a mistake. But here's the worst part about it. She was like, why don't you just? just delete it. And I was like, I didn't, I didn't know that you could delete comments.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Oh, bless. I was totally out of the, I was out of the game. Oh, that's, but that's innocent. I mean, it is, but like. I'm glad we cleared that up. I know. I think I'd seen Hannah, maybe I'd seen her somewhere. Oh, I saw her at stagecoach.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Oh, did you? And I almost like went up to her and I was like, look. You're like, I don't know if you saw, I don't know if you saw my three-flamed comment. Yeah, of course she does. But if you did, it wasn't for that. I did not think you were hot. Yeah, yeah. Let me clear this up.
Starting point is 00:48:12 No fire mojings. You're like, I should have went with the three fist pumps. I should have gone with the, or the, I do the bus. Oh, yeah, the flex, yeah. But I feel like Eve, and that's like my wife said. She was like, why did you, could you not have commented on another photo? But I remember thinking, I was like, all right, this, because I was, if I'm going to, if I'm going to do, if we're going to do, if we're going to do this. the photo thing.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah. I want to comment on one that like a lot of people are engaged on. And Kristen was like, yeah, why do you think a lot of people are engaged
Starting point is 00:48:40 on that photo? I was like, all right, t-shay. Oh my God, that's amazing. That's a good confession. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Okay. Rapid fire questions and then you're out of here. Favorite song of yours ever to perform? One more world spins around. Okay. Why?
Starting point is 00:48:55 Of mine, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just love the course that song. It's fun. It's kind of fun to run around and jump on stage.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah. It fires everybody up. The crowd loves it. That's good. First concert that you ever went to. Don Williams. My dad snuck me into a Don Williams concert at the Strand Theater in Shreveport. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:49:12 But I always say, well, it was the same weekend, but I went and saw Randy Rogers and Eric Church at the Varsteam Battle of which. It was like a Friday, Friday Saturday thing. I love that. My first was either N-Sink. I can't remember. It was either N-Zink or Bush X. I can't remember what came first. Gavin Rosdale.
Starting point is 00:49:29 He dropped the X after a while. It was just Bush. Oh, yeah, Bush. Yeah. Okay. Glcerine. Glissorine, yeah, great song. Okay, if you could collaborate with any artist, living or dead, who would it be?
Starting point is 00:49:40 John Prine. Okay. He was my, the reason why I fell in love a songwriting, so it would be John Prong. I like that. Or maybe Tom Petty. Oh, mine would be Kurt Cobain. Oh, that's a killer one. What's a guilty pleasure song that you love besides Pink Pony Club?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Oh, besides Pink Pony Club? The most recent one is like the Please, Please, Please. Oh, so good. Yeah, so good. It's a great song. God, that girl is. She's fire. She's three fire emojis. She's three fire emojis.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah. But although I've ruled that out of my... But it doesn't mean hot. It means she's just a fire singer. That's what I thought. But apparently Instagram things different. I mean, if I saw that, I'd be like he's hitting on her. Yeah. Okay. Favorite thing to do with your kids? My daughter, we have pancake dates. She loves pancakes. Cute. Do you go to the pancake? What is that house? No, we don't do the pantry.
Starting point is 00:50:28 The pantry, yeah. We just do like, we literally do like Cracker Barrel or A-Hop. Like just, you know. And my son, he loves to play trucks. So we, like, you know, play Excavator or whatever. Oh, yes. My middle boy. And then my youngest, he just loves to throw things back and forth.
Starting point is 00:50:49 So, like, all you have to do is, like, he'll do it for three hours. Like, you just sit across from him, and he just throws things at you. What are their names? I always like hearing people's kids' names. My daughter's Eloise, and I have, my middle one is Lockland. We call him Locke. And then my youngest is Elijah. Oh my God, I love all those names.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Great names. I wouldn't tell you if I didn't like them, but I do love them. Yeah. You would have just said like, oh, that's cute. I would have been like cute, moving on. What's a piece of advice you would give to aspiring artists? You know, I had this kind of, I feel like I'm talking way too much on this. What a podcast is for?
Starting point is 00:51:23 This is great. I always, like, feel bad saying this. And I was talking to a buddy mine that was on tour with us for Luke. And it feels so, like, not genuine, but like to just. truly be authentic and be who you are and it feels like a cop-out answer no but i mean as you probably know it rolls over into so many other things to where it like becomes this thing that if you're not or if you start to chase something or do something because you think you need to do it or or you need to write more like this or thing like that the worst thing that can happen is that works yeah because
Starting point is 00:51:56 that's exhausting to try and keep up with and you got to keep up work and you got yeah it won't work But on the off chance that it does, then you do have to kind of, you're living this thing that is not fulfilling or it's not the reason why you started doing it. I actually love that advice more than I thought I would because I want people in general to take that advice like in life. I mean, it's like, yeah, it goes to the same thing as like I would say that to somebody, it's like, man, what I need to do after college? I could do this thing that I love or I can go get this job that makes a lot of money. It's like, well, you can go chase the money, but you're going to be miserable, man. I'm Tony right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:30 It's, I feel like we live in a world, too, where everybody's trying to be somebody else on social media. And it's just like, I don't know how people do it. Because, like, you get so wrapped up and trying to be someone that you think you're supposed to be on social media because it gets more likes or it gets more comments or whatever it is. And then, oh, it's just draining. Been there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah. It's a whole thing. No, it is. It's a, social media is a, it's a slippery slope. In many different ways. What's your go-to comfort food? Oh, fried fish. Fried croppy.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Really? Yeah, I love it. What's the last show you binge watched? Probably some true com doc. I just watched Your Honor. Oh, that's such a good show. Wow. Did you watch Presumed Innocent?
Starting point is 00:53:12 Oh, yeah. So good. I've tuned in. Kristen was watching it. It's also Defending Jacob. Have you seen that one? Oh, I read that book. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 00:53:22 I wanted to read it after I watched it. I was like, I didn't know that was a book until after I watched the show. Oh, my God. Yeah. That one ripped me up. Okay, well, then don't watch. It's, it's, I don't know, the book's pretty rough. It's, well, I mean, like, if you already know the ending, then.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you for coming on the pond. Thank you so much for having me. That was so fun. Yeah. I hope I didn't ramble too much. That's my favorite kind of guess. The more rambling, the better, in my opinion. Because usually I have to take over the rambling, and I will do a good job of it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. I'm going to be. We're going to be able to do. Thank you. Thank you.

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