Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Justin Anderson | Community Rallies for Heidi & Spencer + Advice for 3 Listener Call-Ins

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

#807. It’s time for some Grape Therapy, and Kaitlyn is back with the always-entertaining Justin Anderson for Part 2! The duo dives into three juicy listener dilemmas: a couple embracing a child-free lifestyle, a bride-to-be navigating a tricky friendship, and a fresh divorcée with a secret Vegas wedding. They also discuss Heidi and Spencer Pratt’s resilience after losing their home in the LA fires and the heartwarming way the internet has rallied behind them. Packed with advice, laughs, and unfiltered opinions, this episode will keep you hooked from start to finish. If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE! Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals! Nutrafol: Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair. Go To Nutrafol.com Promo Code VINE. Wayfair: Give your home the refresh it needs with Wayfair! Head to Wayfair.com right now. Hungry Root: Visit Hungryroot.com/vine, code vine to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life!! Spade & Sparrows: Use code OFFTHEVINE to receive 15% off your first order at See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I felt so proud of myself because I set it up all by myself. There's a new software of my computer. I don't have an assistant anymore. And I was just like, I could do this. And then I'm going to send the recording. And it's like, camera overheated. And I was like, what? Why does it, like, tell you, like, make a sound when it goes off?

It should be, like, a warning. Like, who doesn't have a podcast right now? These cameras should be telling us. God. So welcome back to part two of grape therapy. I honestly have been actually taking some time off social media because it's just so devastating. Like, is your family okay? Yes.

My family is in the, I grew up in an area called Locking Yada Flint Ridge, which is this a little part of restaurant. My mom lives now of Pasadena. My sister's in Pasadena, my younger brother's in Pasadena, my nieces and nephews, they're all evacuated. And they haven't gone back yet, but they're kind of keeping the fire from their house. But, I mean, it is so devastating. And that's why I had to go off social media. Because I was watching people talk in the comments, because I was checking videos to see if I could get glimpses of what parts of town were on fire.

You know, see what I could recognize. But then I'd kind of go into the comments and see what people were saying. Oh, my gosh. It's the most insane. thing in the world. It made me so sick that I just, I had to stop looking at Instagram. Same. I was like, I don't want to be ignorant of what's happening. So I would like, wanted to be informed. But then I was like, it is like I'm going to be informed no matter what. Have I turned on the news? If I open social media, all, I'll know what's going on. But I'm like,

I cannot keep scrolling, seeing comments, seeing how people are treating this. Like it's people talking about how people are just rich and it's fine because they can buy new. And I'm like, that is the grossest mentality I've ever heard. That in itself is a gross thing. I'm not saying I understand it, but I get where somebody could kind of say that, not realizing what they're saying. But beyond that, what people don't realize is like I grew up in Southern California born and raised. My dad grew up in the town that I grew up in with my same high school. People don't realize that California is like a blue collar state. Like there's a lot of people who, you know, don't have a lot of money. A lot of people. And California has progressively gotten more and more expensive, right? So the area that I grew up in now is

insane. Like a lot of celebrities are moving there because it's outside of Hollywood, but it's a real family community. So the prices are insane, right? But everyone I grew up with, like, all of my friend's parents' house was handed down to them from like their grandparents. People bought their house in the 60s. And like that is their money. You know, so when they have to go to rebuild that house, they don't, first of all, they don't have the money to rebuild it. And so all these people are going to be displayed, like have to go to different places. People moved the town that I grew up in for the school district. So all those people, like their kids are going to have to be, go to new schools, they're not going to afford to get back into the town.

Like, it's devastating. Who would have thought that everybody's kind of coming together for Spencer Pratt and Heidi? It's so beautiful. I think there's so many deep layers if you really start to, like, read into it. Like, I think that America just wants to celebrate something. Yeah. Like, think about it.

We're constantly getting trash thrown in our face, right? Even people who wanted President Trump to win, they didn't even get to celebrate because everybody else was dogging on it. Right. Like, we're just everything is. about like anger and like this sucks and this sucks and I hate this that it took spencer and Heidi losing their house for all of us to rally together and I think you know everyone always is saying like or they're saying right now they're like they're still rich and they're still famous

first of all they're not rich no they're not at all but I think they also kind of to a lot of people have grown up with them they kind of resemble what we see as like a normal person you know like yeah they were on a reality show and they have fame from that but like it's people we can relate to kind of and it's a devastating story and we just want to cheer. I also think like whoever doubted them in the past, like they're one of the most solid relationships out there. That's the same. He is so supportive of her. She loves him. They just honestly have been through so much together. And now they've lost the house that they raised children in. And like her music 15 years later, I remember them sitting on my podcast in 2017 talking about

how they lost all their money putting it into Heidi's music. Yeah. Like, millions and millions of dollars because they thought like it was going to be the next big thing. And so to have that happen like however many years later, like I think it's 15, they were talking about it in 2017, but it was in 2010, 11, 12 or something. So for them to now be celebrating her record being number one, like that's such a big win for them. And I feel like it's making the internet come together as a positive community and rooting for other people. And it's just so. And I'm like, and her music is fire.

It's good. It's really, really good. I know. I'm so, like, happy for them. It's funny because a lot of people, you know, because I have the connection to Kristen and then they were on the hills and all that stuff. So when I was posting about loving them, and I've loved them for so long, you know, it didn't even take this. I've always just been a super fan of theirs. But people would message me like, how could you like Spencer?

Like, he was horrible on the hills, whatever. I'm like, first of all, it was scripted. Everyone knows that at this point. Yeah. How do we not know that at this point? And then people will still try to say that I guess, like, I didn't watch the hills thoroughly, but like they were like, he was so mean to hide on. I'm like, you guys, it's 15 years later almost, and they're still together. They're like the most solid reality TV couple that we've ever seen, you know?

So it's like they're doing something right. Like the love is in that family. They have more love than I. I've seen it in person. I like ended up being friends with them and like going to their house. The house that isn't there anymore, like Spencer's trying to get me over my fear of birds with the hummingbirds. Like I love them.

And I'm just like, oh my gosh, I feel like finally they're getting like credit that they deserve. But it's true. It's like it was a scripted show. Spencer went on, call her daddy podcast, and literally, he, like, stood up and walked out and made a scene just to show how editing can make someone believe something about you. And if you really pay attention to Spencer, he's brilliant. Like, the guy is so smart. He knew exactly what he was doing. Yeah.

They both did. Yeah. And they loved it. Yeah. They made really good TV. They know what they were doing. But then even beyond that, like, if you pay attention to the things that Spencer, like, talks about, like, he's really smart. And he's, like, a deep thinker.

He pays attention to people and things that are going on. Yeah. Like, he's just really, really interesting. Yeah. And he's a great dad. He is. They're a great family. I think it's so, I just love that the, that's like the beauty out of, you know, I'm trying to find the silver linings of like communities coming together.

People really like helping others, everything that's going on. And I'm like, who would have thought? Yeah. We needed this though. We needed something to cheer about. Thank you for the win, Spencer and Heidi. Okay. So we were picking up where we left off.

We took calls and we're answering questions. and then my stupid podcast, my new podcast camera cut out. Oh, I forgot. We did that and they were so good. Yeah. They were so thoughtful. And now I have their voice. No way.

Yeah, so they're going to ask questions through here. Oh, I love this. I know, me too. I totally forgot when we did this. Okay. I appreciate you coming back to because I was like, like a dog with my tail between and I was like, my podcast didn't work. Can you go back?

It's like, thank God it was you. Okay. So our first caller. Hi, Caitlin. My name's Faith. And first of all, I love you. And second of all, I turn 30 this coming July, which I'm really excited about. But I wanted to get some encouragement or advice on a decision that my husband and I made this

past summer, which was to not have children. We came to that decision for a plethora of reasons, but it's been on my mind and my heart since college. And we officially decided that we do not want kids. My husband's in the military, so we get moved around a lot. I just don't want the instability for a child, and I'm also a teacher of young kids. So I don't want that to be my whole life. I want to be a really good auntie. So just some encouragement and advice on that topic would be awesome. Thanks, Caitlin. Love you lots. Okay, first of all, thank you for your service to your husband. Yeah, I was going to say that. And she's a teacher. I'm like, oh, so you have two heroes in one household got it wow and she sounds sexy she sounds hot she's a sexy faith

and she's a teacher and her husband's in the military i just like with this topic specifically especially if like that's what works best for you too i'm like why do people get so fired up about people not wanting kids people really do you know i think a lot of it yeah i think a lot of it a lot of a lot of times it's religion too. Like I grew up in the Mormon world where everything is about like have as many kids as you can or whatever. But maybe it's not that.

But yeah, there's a lot of pressure to have kids. But I think it's so, and just hear me out on this. I really admire people who can just admit to that. And I also think that we need to remember that people who admit to that like, because I'm sure she'd be a great mom

if she ended up having a kid. But there's also a lot of people who have kids that shouldn't is. So it's like it's such a big conversation. I'm in a gay relationship. People ask us all the time if we want to have kids. And we'd be really good dads and we'd have the life to do it and stuff.

But I also, I really want to be the most incredible uncle ever. Like, and I remember when I was a kid, I remember like I would have uncles. For some reason, my uncles, I was obsessed with my uncles. But they like had so much fun with us when we were younger. But then once they had their own kids, it was like we were chopped liver all of a sudden. And it stood out to me so much, you know. And so like as I've gotten older, I'm like, I want to be like this constant uncle. So her saying like the aunt thing, it's a real thing.

It is a real thing. We want to have community. want to be there for the people that we love? I don't think that everyone has to have kids. And the world's way different than it was 30 years ago. It's so expensive. Those two jobs. I mean, there's things you have to think about it. Is traveling a priority? Do you want to help pitch in for your nieces and nephews? Whatever it is. I don't think that people should feel bad about that decision. Well, we're only feeling bad because of how other people make us feel. So I would say read Mel Robbins book. They're at them. Because we're only feeling a certain way about it is because

other people are trying to make us feel. Wait, can I ask you something? Maybe you don't want to answer this on a podcast. But why do you think people care if other people don't have kids? Like that's something. I couldn't even think of the, like, I tried to say the religion thing, but I'm like, not really because that was nothing to do with you. I think the people who, they might be the ones that like really want it in their life and maybe

they're struggling. Oh, well, that makes sense to me. That makes sense to me. But then you wouldn't put the judgment onto somebody else. You'd kind of be like, maybe in your own head, like, oh, I don't know. Whatever. But I think when you see people who are like, angry. you're like, oh, they're childless.

Like Jennifer Aniston, client of mine and friend of mine forever and the things people say about her because she doesn't have kids. And I'm like, do you know, I don't want to go into any details, but like Jennifer is the best person to her friend's kids, you know, and like, I don't know. Chelsea handler. The same thing. Chelsea's a really good friend of mine. And Chelsea is the best aunt you've ever seen.

And her friends who have kids, like she is literally there for them. Like, we'll take any phone call. It's like, you can still be an amazing. adult figure or whatever. I just don't understand it. I wonder if that will change over the next like 10 years. So the people who are struggling with this thought right now, like in 10 years, they'll be like finally like it's starting to become accepted because I don't think people have really talked about that where our parents' generation, it was kind of like, ready or not, that's your next step. Yeah. You know, like everything has kind of been laid out for that generation

where it's like you're born, you go to school, you go to college, you get married, you have children, and you, it's like all very set up. So it's like a built in kind of traditional thing too. Like, yeah, that's, I think that's probably more what it is. Yeah. And people are coming from like. Now people are just like, I think a lot of people are angry too that like we just all get to go on the internet if we want and make some money do our own thing.

And like they're like, no, this is how society should be. Yeah. There's a lot of that. Yeah. Okay. See, that's where I think it all comes from. Or like maybe if I have to do it or if I'm stressed out with my kids, you have to too. Could that be there too? I'm sure there's a lot of layers.

Because I don't know. I think we talked about this. I just don't understand comparing my life to anybody else. Yeah. I just think it's such a waste of time. But there is a lot of judgment with the kids thing. I've noticed that a lot. I think, and I was telling one of my friends this morning,

she has the means to not work, but she loves what she does. And but she's like, but I also want to go stay home with my kids. And she's like trying to figure out. And I was like, if you don't have to work, like what is making you feel like you? need to. If you actually would make you a better mom to be home and to be happy and picking them up every day and drop, like, if that's what you thrive to do, like, that is so acceptable if you have the means. Is that more what she wants to do? Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah. And so, and of course, it got down to, well, I'm worried that other people think I'm just free riding or I'm like,

that's your husband and your family. Like, the wrong people might think that. But that's the opposite of the judgment that we're talking about not having kids, like people judging women who want to stay home and be a mom at this point. I'm also all for, I love tradwives. I think it's an amazing thing. I know that people talk. What is it? A trad wife. So it's like, you know who Ballerina Farm is on on Instagram? Okay. So people are trying to rip her apart being like you're trying to set women back or whatever. I'm like, no, she's not. She enjoys her life. She loves it. My sister is a tradwife. My sister loves to be a mom. Her whole world changed when she had kids or whatever. And I think that is the most beautiful thing ever. But vice versa, if you want to be a working mom, you want to go to

work every day because that fulfilled yeah so people are just going to judge no matter what i'm going to quote bart simpson what remember when he said you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't i feel like he said that in a like i used to have a bart simpson like song like a cd oh my gosh i played the shit out of that CD and he's like well you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't that whole okay i hope we helped faith because i feel like you shouldn't feel like you shouldn't feel you shouldn't feel judged but I understand that you do yeah but like at the end of the day imagine you made that decision to please other people I'm going to have a child because that's what people think I should do I mean that's the answer right there that's the answer right there okay

next one hi Caitlin huge fan where's the ones for Justin I have a decision that I'm struggling with regarding a long-term friendship oh sparing many details here's the quick backdrop we've been friends since kindergarten and she's part of a core group of friends that I still have from growing up Just had this conversation. Over the last few years, she's become very distant to the group. She did go through a tough breakup, but we were all there for her throughout all of it. I'm getting married soon, and I've invited this group to get ready with me the morning of my wedding. Six months ago, I included her in that invitation.

Since then, she's made the choice to not attend my bachelorette, but attend another friends, made plans with me and then bailed two hours beforehand, and then this past weekend flew out of the country to visit a guy who she hasn't seen in years. All this to say, I feel as though the friendship is not valued or cared for it on her at. and she never asks how I'm doing or how wedding planning is going, etc. I don't want to include her in the morning of my wedding anymore, but I also don't want a lot of drama. I'm thinking of not following up with her about the plans,

and if she asks, I will tell her I'm happy she'll be at my wedding, but with the distance and not seeing her in one and a half years, I altered my plans. Is this the right approach? Yes. I do think not following up is the right way, because it doesn't sound like that girl wants to be a part of it anyways. But I would also ask. I take this so seriously.

because I take my friendship so seriously. That's what I'm like overthinking this one. I know. And it's so bizarre to me because I think that friendships can, you can grow out of them. Some of my best friends, I have my best friends from kindergarten still. Like last night I was texting one of my best guy friends from like kindergarten all the way through. You know, but there's definitely people who kind of phased out of my life. Yeah.

And I've never, if people don't have the, don't try with me, it can phase and I have no problem. Yeah. But with that one, I mean, if she is a good friend up until you're getting married, is it, do you need to have a conversation like why are you getting distant now that i'm getting married is this about me being married that's what i was going to say that would be worth the conversation like what is the underlying issue because it sounds like if a friend is just all of a sudden like if you're friends with her since kindergarten and all over the years they've become distant unresponsive or flaky it's like is there a reason or is she just trying to slowly remove herself and i again it always goes

back to like an honest conversation like hey is there a reason you're being like this have i done something to hurt you. If I have, I'd like to be aware of it so we can talk through it. If not, like, totally understand going our separate ways. I just think it's such, it's so powerful to just have honest conversations. Yeah, have honest conversations and not feel bad. If it's like that friend isn't a really good friend, yeah, like you said, you don't want them in all the pictures or whatever. I don't know. It's funny, too, as I get older, it's like my group just gets smaller and smaller. And like the amount of people that I actually talk to on a weekly basis is so much smaller. I don't hate anyone from my past. We just kind of have phased out.

And that happens in life. I mean, I don't know what her age is, but I assume she's younger than I am. But as you get older, it just gets smaller and smaller. Especially, it depends if you're, like, still in your same hometown that you grew up and have the same friends. Or if you've gone off and done different things or what they're, like, I would like to know their age and where they live and they're like in the same time. But I did a dance class yesterday and we were having this conversation about like friendship groups getting smaller. And I'm like, I think a lot of people feel pressure that, well, since you've been friends since kindergarten, you have to maintain this friendship. But it's like, no, you don't.

Yeah. And there's also no way you can keep up with that. Like, why don't know something so funny, one of like my main reasons for wanting to leave LA and move to Nashville is because I wanted to downsize my life. Because with what I did for work, my life was so social. So every week I would have a birthday party or a dinner party or like some sort of event or whatever. And like you get sick of saying no over and over. And I was kind of like, I just want to remove myself from the situation and slow down my life. And I think that people.

So I can imagine if you still live in your same hometown, you have all those friends that you grew up with. Like it is so hard to keep up with people as you get older. and the busier we get and we're tired. Yeah. Someone asked me to go out on a Tuesday night. No way. Like I would barely do that for like anybody. You know,

and I would more like come over and watch a movie at the house or whatever. But like I know this is deeper because it's the wedding and everything. But like you were saying, sit down and have an honest conversation. Like, dude, what's up? Because it might be deeper for her too. And maybe you can get somewhere. Like no matter what happens, you can probably get some sort of either closure or understanding of why.

Because she might be going through some shit if she's taking off and being Flakey, like, usually something deeper is going on with people when they change. Totally, yeah. So maybe it's, I mean, I know it's the wedding, so it is about you. But I mean, yeah, it's your wedding. Figure it out with your friend. I don't, yeah, okay. At first I was like, yeah, just don't follow up.

But now I'm like, no follow up. Yeah, because it depends. If it is a really good friend, I mean, you want to know. Because also, you can't just not have your good friend at your wedding. And if it is something that's easily, easily fixable. Yes, easily fixable. That is a tough one. That's a tough one.

If you could fix it, it'd be such a bummer to not fix it before your wedding. It's like you would want to. So have the deep conversation, get to the bottom of it. Yeah. Oh, she sounded so sweet. They both sounds so sweet. I know. Okay.

Well, let's see if the third one's sweet. She's all right. We're like, who vetted this person and why is she on my podcast? Okay, Beth. I've been divorced for about two months now, but separated for about a year. I've secretly been dating someone since. well, before I left, my now ex-husband. I won't get into the details of that,

but we seriously started dating once my ex-husband and I split. I kind of kept it a secret until maybe about April or May of last year and finally told friends and family I was seeing someone. Anyway, I've known this man for about two years now. He's wonderful. He treats me so well. He is loving and kind. He's obsessed with me in a good way.

And he's really good to my kids. Anyways, this is where it gets spicy. Nope. We went to Vegas over New Year's and we got married. Yep. I got married and I've only been divorced for two months. Okay. Everyone sort of knows.

There's a few people who don't. And they all think I'm crazy. They think that we rushed into it, yada, yada, yada. But they don't know the truth that I have known this man for about two years. and have been together longer than they think. So do I let them think I'm crazy? No. Or do I tell them the truth?

And ruin my reputation, you know, that kind of deal. Let me know what you think. No, no, you're not ruining your reputation because you're, two things. Your reputation right now, everyone seems to think you're crazy. Yeah. And they're judging you for it. But I also, like, immediately I just started thinking about what we were just talking about how people judge people and often kids.

I imagine all the judgment. she's going to get for that and that's where i'm like i by the way don't judge your story at all i believe in people meeting each other and just something happens right whatever we don't need to get into that but like she doesn't have to justify it to anybody else i would just rip the bandit off like hey we met before i was officially divorced the other thing is too when most people are going towards a divorce by the time you're actually getting to us you've been checked out for so long so like you could it's not necessarily an affair like people from the outside came like you cheated she could have been checked out from that relationship for so long. Yeah. You know? Because even like even if

you're in the public eye or not, like I know of course in the public eye it's so much different because like in both relationships I was in in the public, we were broken up much longer before people knew. We were going through rough times much longer than people knew. And so it's like, but that's so easy for people to judge because I'm like, we don't know me. So when it's your closer circle, it's a lot harder because you're like, oh, you matter to me. And. And, so it's like, oh, you matter to me. and now you're judging me. But it sounds like they're kind of judging already. So I think you're right.

I just think like the truth will always set you free. Yeah. Well, and people are going to judge no matter what with a situation like that from the get go. So you might as well rip the band it off, start telling people like, look, I know what it looks like from the outside, but I've known this man for a really long time. And the thing that's going to change it is you being together for years, years down the road when people get to know you as a couple and they see like how in love the two of you are, like it's going to make sense to them.

And again, you can't live your life for everybody else. judgment. You really can't. I mean, she didn't. She went and got married. She did it. So I'm proud of you for following your heart. I love her voice too. I want to like see that. I know. She has like a really cool sexy southern voice. I like that along. And her name's bath. I know. It was really sweet. And I just feel like first of all, congratulations. Congratulations on your merits. That's the part you don't want to forget. I mean, you're kind of in your honeymoon phase right now. We're all allowed to be happy too and like follow what makes us happy and it's like it's just such a bummer because we all do worry so much about the judgment from outside but that is the thing that also you have to remember like judgment like holds so many

people back from like true happiness well and it passes so that judgment might be holding you back but that judgment to them is like a thought and it passes yeah and they'll get over it they'll get over that that's why I always say these things like you brought up the celebrity thing like the way that people judge when celebrities get caught in cheating scandals or whatever and for me I'm always like they're probably in a miserable relationship for two years and whatever but People get over it so fast. I always, like, say this thing. I'm like, I wish celebrities would stop apologizing or making public apologies because that just

makes it worse. We have the worst attention span now. Like, even this whole, well, no, I'm not going to go to that. But a lot of times when a celebrity gets in trouble and then they come out with an apology, I'm like, you could have just skipped it because people will forget. They all forget. Everyone makes mistakes. We live in this age now where it's like people can't make a mistake.

What was like the biggest scandal last year in like the celebrity world? Last year was actually pretty good because I feel like people were kind of taking a break from like doing the whole trying to cancel celebrity things because it was so bad before. Like what's the one you remember minus like P. Diddy minus Blake lively. Like before that we can't even remember. Exactly. Well, that's the thing. And trust me, I love pop culture and I love like. I know. That's why I asked. I figured you might even. That is such a good point. I was like, I was like mad at myself for not remembering. But that's the point. You don't remember anything. Like we don't remember any of the stuff because we're all also so consumed with our own lives at the

the end of the day when you like walk like do you ever walking to somewhere and like you'll get in your head like is everyone looking at me or whatever like and then I have to remind myself no one gives what you're doing just in like matter and if they do they're probably like well he looks great like or yeah like yeah we're not it's so weird like you have to just do what works for you I know I force myself to go to dinners by myself and to movies by myself because I'm like no one cares Caitlin no one cares oh I've never cared what people thought about that like when I travel a lot for work. I loved sitting at the bar by myself. It was my favorite thing in the world.

And you could just sit on it and scroll and like sip your wine or whatever. No one's judging you because you're scrolling your phone but not talking to who you're eating with. It's the best thing of the world. Or be, yeah. It's one of my favorite things to be by myself out in public like sitting at a bar. I love it so. I used to do the movie theaters all the time.

And I haven't done that since I moved to Nashville. In LA, I used to go like once a week by myself. I just let's all wicked by myself. Shut up. In 3D. I got a glass of wine. Yeah, everyone's like, shut up. Who's that crazy girl?

I'm like, no one cares, Caitlin, sitting at the top of my lungs. No, I had the best time. I just sat there with a big bag of popcorn, licorice, a glass of wine, and my little 3D sunnies. As you get older, this is my favorite thing about getting older is, like, honestly not giving up. I've always kind of been there, like, since I was younger. I really haven't, like, cared a lot. Yeah. I don't mind embarrassing myself or I don't take myself that seriously.

But as I get older, I genuinely just don't care. I know. Even with, like, social media and stuff, like, even like my siblings will be like, my God, like you share everything on Instagram where you're like, you really go there or whatever. And I'm, and I don't even think about who's judging or who's watching it. I just want to make people giggle or I want to get things off my chest. Well, you're born entertainer. You are.

Well, we talked about that recently. But like, you cannot live your life worrying what other people think because you'll get on your deathbed and be like, why didn't I do all those fun things? It's the number one reason. It's, I have interviewed somebody who interviewed hospice nurses. I've watched a lot of things on people who are on their deathbed and what their number one regret is. And without fail, the number one answer that comes up the most is people regret living a life to please other people and not themselves.

The number one regret on people's deathbed, whether they're a quick diagnosis and like don't have long to live or they're 100 years old and on their last days. So do you think they're saying things like I wish I would have a bunch of people or like done more drugs or like regrets like experiences and things they wish they would have done? I think it's like this, like that, like to Beth, Beth, Beth probably could have stayed in that marriage and that would have, you know, and then she would have gone on her deathbed and said, I should have married the love of my life in Vegas that one time, you know? Like the other girl who might get on her deathbed and she's probably like, I am so grateful I followed my heart to not have children.

That was the right decision for me. Like those are examples of not doing that. Yeah. You know why this is confusing to me is since I was a kid I've always done what I want. And it was like a thing, like I would get shit for it all the time. And they were always thinking like I knew in my gut when I wanted to, when I dropped out of college, so I was in college, I dropped out after my sophomore year and told my parents I was going to beauty school. My family lost their mind. Like my mom was like sobbing. She's like, what is wrong with you?

Like what are you talking about, you know? But it's like I knew what I was doing. And like had I not done it, went to college and got a job that I hated, you know. And you would have been a living a life for somebody else. Exactly. And like I've never, I've always done. what I wanted as far as that stuff goes. I think I have to, but my parents were the opposite. They're like, you go, girl. They were, that's good. I didn't even have to try and go to college.

Like, they were like, you just follow your little heart wherever that leads you. I don't have resentment towards my parents. But like, when I was a kid, I used to beg to be in ballet. I wanted to do ballet. I wanted to do gymnastics. I wanted to be in theater. My parents wouldn't let me. I had to do all sports.

Yeah. All that stuff. Then when I grad-generational things, too. Yeah. And I like come from good parents, really fun, good people, but very conservative background, you know, and it was kind of like, this is what you do next or whatever. And I was always the one that were like trying to bring me back in, you know. Yeah. But everything I did for myself, I'm so glad that I did it.

Yeah. See, there you go. You will be one of those on your deathbed. You're going to go, I'm glad I lived a life for me. What would be your biggest regret? My biggest regret, I swear, I really don't have any. I know. I'm trying to think of if, God forbid, something happened to me in there like, Caitlin, you have 10 days to live. I'd be like, I'm done it all. Caitlin, do you know that I really, I say that all the time to people. Like I honestly, I'm like, I feel like I've done so many lifetimes. Like I've done everything that I really wanted. Not something I'm like I want to die tomorrow.

But like I feel like I've, yeah, I've lived so much. But a lot of people don't. I know. I want to like go like through the camera and be like, do it. Yeah. If you want to. Because again, some people are happy living that life of. Oh, 100%.

Some people, that makes them feel so safe. And also like there's people who are in their small, same hometown with their. high school sweetheart and they are happy as can be and they're genuinely happy. Exactly. Yeah. But if you're not, don't feel bad about it. You've got to do what you want to do for you. Like the judgment will go away. People will get over it. I think that's the best thing to take from this podcast is that how quickly judgment passes from other people. So if you continue to try and please people who literally won't carry a year later, what are you doing? Mm-hmm. A hundred percent. Wow, we really crack something right here. Bing, bang, boom. Have you ever seen 22 Jump Street? I mean, when I was

much younger the movie or the show. You know what it started off as a show? Yes, no, the newer movie. No, and is it good? 20. Is Channing Tatum in it? Okay, so there's 21 Jump Street and 22 Jump Street. Yes, Channing Tatum.

They're both so funny and so well done. And the second one is like, I never think the second movie is better than the first, except for Home Alone, shoot me. Oh, my God. I know. It's my favorite movie ever. Well, Home 1 and 2 is like my favorite movie ever. We are such Christmas nerds.

We were just talking about that before. I know. We were both really depressed. My dog is Kevin McAllister And my other dog is Clark Griswold Like I'm a Christmas freak Well my Christmas decorations are all still So same zies

But yeah I'm just like the second movie 22 Jump Street I highly recommend Do you think Channing Tatum's hot Oh I'd go back and forth on this all the time You were just having this conversation the other day With a friend of mine and I was like I don't think he's hot

Okay so But I thought he was hot in Magic Mike right See and I thought he was hot in I haven't seen Magic Mike Isn't that crazy But I think he's hot in 22 Jump Street because he's funny in it. Okay, funny makes all the difference.

Yeah. So when he's being funny, I think he's hot. But when I was on Good Morning America after Bachelorette, he was promoting Magic Mike. And so we were in the same press at like, Good Morning America. We were also on Jimmy Fallon the same night, like all these things. And I kept running into him in the most awkward ways. But Good Morning America was like, if you were still single, what is your pickup line at? Like a bar? How do you pick up a guy?

And I'm like, I always just, this is what I used to do at the bar in Vancouver. I'd like I'd go like looking for a hockey player like I'd be like he's got a hockey butt and I would just say good and you and then they'd be like if they were like I didn't ask I'd be like that's rude and I'll like walk away and then I'm embarrassed this is also like 25 year old Caitlin yeah but also it totally works because like guys all they need is a girl to make the move oh especially if you're like making them like if you make the move and then you're like well, that was stupid. And they walk away.

They're like, why do I want her? Exactly. Yeah. And so they were, and I said that. And they were like, oh, okay. And then we were walking out and there's like, good morning. Have you ever been to GMA? Yeah.

Like massive, those massive elevators. He was coming out and I was going in and he was like, oh. And I was like, good. And you. And then he was like, what? And then I was like, what? And then we all just kept walking and the camera crew still following me. And they're like, that was good.

That's funny. But it was, I was like, that was my pickup. blind anyways so i think he's hot when he's funny yeah because to me he's kind of like he's kind of like a golden retriever like kind of like uh he seems like clumsy and kind of like funny to me so yeah when he's funny i think it's cute when people talk about him being like a hot sexy guy i'm like i don't really see it the funny thing i get yeah watch 22 jump street and then message me later and then be like oh he is hot well who's your type like celebrity crush um i mean my uh so do you remember the first Rocky or not the first Rocky. Remember the blonde boxer guy in Rocky? Oh my God. Like Rocky loves

Emily. No, no. Rocky, the movie like with Sybester Stallone. Oh. Why am I blanking on his name right now? You guys are going to remember it. Oh, right in blonde boxer Rocky. Oh my God. He literally when he's young. And you're going to see a picture when he's younger and he looks like Scoot. No, really? I was a kid. I was obsessed with this guy in this movie. Yes. Look at it. Wait. What is his name? That is Scoot. Oh my God. That was literally my crush. When I was a kid, I was obsessed with that guy.

Justin, that's Scoot. Yeah, it looks like exactly like Scoot. That's literally Scoot's exact face. Yeah, so like I have a very specific type. That is so funny. Yeah, when I was a kid, I was like obsessed with that guy. And then he looks like Scoot. Oh my God.

I've gone through like so many different crushes in my life. Like all different shapes, sizes, race, like everything. I will have different crushes. And in my last like 10 years, been just consistently Paul Rudd. Oh, he's so cute. It's the funny thing, though. It is the funny thing. Who don't take themselves so seriously. I mean, that makes all the difference. I'm kind of the same too. When I was a kid, like I didn't know I was gay, but I had posters of Michael Jordan everywhere because I was in love with him. Like I wanted to be, I wanted him to

be my husband. But my parents were like, oh, just he's like really into basketball. You're like sports. Yeah. Go sports. I didn't even know what TV played for. But it was like, I had posters of Michael Jordan all over because nobody would know. They'd be like, oh, he's really into basketball. basketball, but I like, it was because I loved Michael Jordan. Oh, my God. That's so funny. I totally loved Michael Jordan, too. He was so hot.

So hot. Yeah. Oh, my God. And, like, that time in, like, American history was, like, when the Chicago Bowls were really good, the Chicago Bears was, like, the most amazing football team. My uncle played for the Chicago Bears at that time. So we'd always go to Chicago. And it was like, that time in American history, I mean, I'd never want to go backwards.

I was going to say, can we go back and then I thought actually probably not. No, no. I think, but we love nostalgia. I love those kind of memories. I never want to go back for many reasons. But there were times that really stand out to me, and that was such a great time. Yeah.

Oh, my. The Bart Simpson, like just life was simple. All we were just entertained. It's because we didn't know any better, though. Exactly. Yeah. That's where social media has messed things up.

It's brought so many people together, which is good, but I just feel like we know too much. I know. We do. We do. And we're reading too many other people's shitty comments. Yeah.

Then that gets in our head. And then we're like we're living in a sad world when we're not looking for the beauty. Exactly. Exactly. Go follow Spencer Pratt. Go find a joy in the world and follow Spencer Pratt. I'm Caitlin Bristow.

Bye, you guys. Bye, everybody. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now ending. And if I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind a rating and review. Thank you.