Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Justin Anderson | Marriage, Hair Mishaps, and Life’s Latest Laughs!

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

#805. It’s time to catch up with Justin Anderson in this fun and heartfelt Part 1! From tying the knot with his partner of 10 years to a hilarious DIY hair disaster, Justin gives us a glimpse into his world. He shares the magic of his intimate wedding, what marriage means to him, and those emotional moments that left him teary-eyed. Plus, he spills all the juicy details—from the infamous Katy Perry hair story to why he’s sworn off fillers and Botox. Justin also gets real about handling internet pressures and finding positivity in everyday life. Don’t miss Part 2 next Thursday, where Justin and Kaitlyn answer your questions and dish out advice on listener write-ins! If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE! Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals! Boll & Branch: Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com with promo code VINE15. Quince: Treat yourself this winter without the luxury price tag. Go to Quince.com/vine for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Spade & Sparrows: Use code OFFTHEVINE to receive 15% off your first order at www.spadeandsparrows.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's audible.ca. slash wondering. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now starting. Hey, guys. Welcome to another great. therapy episode today we are diving into part one of my chat with the one the only justin anderson i always have a good time with him and we're catching up on all the juicy updates from his world and don't forget to tune in next thursday for part two where justin and i answer your questions and dish out the best advice we've got take it or leave it you won't want to visit okay first of all congratulations i like did not know you just got married oh my god i didn't really really

remember until right now you just said congratulations like what i do No, we did it, like, out of nowhere. So Scoot and I, Scoot's my partner of, we've been together for 10 years. 10 years, yeah. We got engaged five years ago. And it was one of those things where we were like, everyone kept asking us, when are you guys going to get married? I know how that feels. Yeah.

And really for us, it's just one of those things that's like, I know that Scoot's my forever partner. Like, don't ever second guess it or whatever. Yeah. And we both just are the two people who don't care about a big wedding. I get that. So we kept putting it off. But then all of a sudden it gets to the place where it's like, I need things to, you know, something happened to me or like I think about things like you know something happened to me like

what would happen to our home is like we own three pieces of property together would be taken away from him like it needs to be official yeah so anyways we're going to thanksgiving with our best friend Kristen in New York and then we went to Nantucket to do like two weeks of like Christmas fun with some of my family came in and stuff and I surprised them completely surprised you know you were going to or did you surprise yourself too me like I'm just going to no so on the way to New York I was like I want to do it and I want to do it in Nantuckett's our favorite place and And then Christmas is our favorite time of year. So I'm like, why don't we just do it really small, just the two of us?

We went to the courthouse in Nantucket, walked up to this adorable little park and just the two of us got married. And it was so magical and so perfect. And for anyone who feels the pressure of like a wedding, I think this was the best way to do it because I'm telling you, like, it was all about the two of us. We were just like looking into each other's eyes. We were both here. We were so present because you're not thinking about who's looking at your body.

Like does my arm like fat? And there's not like a wedding planner going around being like. like, get the gum out of your mouth. Yes. Like, there's so many things. Whenever I talk to people, we get married, like, it went by in a blink. I don't even remember what happened. I don't remember what we were saying to each other. This was so, we were so connected.

It felt so emotional. It was absolutely beautiful. So we got married and now we're married. And we'll plan something bigger because we both have a really big close family. I actually love this too because I was like, I don't feel like I'm the kind of girl that like really has dreamt about this big wedding and have wanted, you know, it always like stresses me out. So the next time I get engaged and get married, I want to do that, and I've always wanted to do that. Go to a courthouse, do it really privately, the two of us, and then just throw a big freaking party when you get back. Well, and then the party's all about, like, actually having fun.

You can be with everyone. It's not about the moment when you have to, like, go up in front of everyone. There's so much stress that goes to the wedding. I do think that there are some people who live for a wedding, like they love it. Like, there's some people who love a birthday party. People think I, like, love attention because I'm so on social media and stuff, and I'll do. anything i'll do any podcast and i'll chat but i don't like attention in rooms like i hate a birth i've never had a birthday party i've never throw a birthday party i'll never have like a dinner party

that's about me or my partner so the idea of a wedding i hated the idea of it and there was like this weird part of me so like everyone loves kurt russell and golihan like they're like the ideal couple right and they never did the marriage did marriage or had the big wedding or whatever and i always think about that like i was kind of like what if we get married like changes something or what if it like puts like a like I don't know what if we see like a nightmare side of both of us come out for a wedding or like whatever and I was like I was so happy but at the end of the day you want that marriage means different things to so many different people like I talk about all the time where it came from it's like a man it's like his property the woman is his property the man the dad is giving away his daughter to another man like I always was like but now I think we can all choose what marriage means to us exactly make it whatever you want to So what does marriage mean to you? To me, I mean, in this situation, it's like I love Scoot so much. And I do.

You guys are perfect. I really feel like we have such a good relationship. I never take it for granted. But I want him to feel like he puts so much into our life. You know, like he doesn't work, but he puts so much into our life. And I want him to feel like everything that mine is his and if anything ever happened to me. So there's that part of it. And that's just me being real. Yeah.

I mean, well, but also not. You know, when you're talking about, like, money and, like, finance and all that. I'm like, oh. Well, no, but I do. I want him to feel like, what is mine is his, you know, like, whatever. Yeah. But then there's also, there is that, like, bond to one another. And we both, if Scoot wanted a massive wedding, too, anyone listening, because

it'll be like, everyone always has an opinion. Like, no, he probably wanted a big wedding. I swear to God, if Scoot wanted a massive wedding, I would give it to him, you know. I know you would. The both of us were just, we didn't care. We just didn't want to do it. You know, he hates attention. So the idea of having a big massive wedding.

Like, after it's all said it, like he said, you surprised him. Did he, was he like, holy shit. He was, okay, so I couldn't completely surprise him in the sense that I couldn't be like, let's go for a walk and we just stopped by the courthouse. So how they do it in Massachusetts is you have to go in for like a, I don't know if they do this here or where else they do this. You have to go in and you have to do like a, you do an interview almost with them, fill out the paperwork and then you have to wait 72 hours.

So it's not like you could just go in if you're drunk one night and get married, which I thought it was kind of cool. So we had to go. It's not Vegas. Yeah, it's not like Vegas. We went in like three days before. So when we were going in for that, I was like, hey, I want to tell you what we're doing today.

We're walking to the courthouse. We have a meeting at noon and we're going to sit down with them and do this thing. And I mean, he lit up. He was so happy. And it was so cute. The two of us walking to the courthouse together, like holding hands. And we were so happy. We filled out the stuff or whatever.

And then we had a couple days to prepare about it, to prepare for it. And then literally it was in a park. We walked down there. It was pouring rain. I said. We walked. the courthouse and then as we're walking up to the park we did it completely cleared out like the clouds cleared we had our ceremony we left and then it like started raining you're like see god

does love games it's so magical um and i'm having a thing right now like i lost my dad four years ago now and i've been having this thing where it's like i think i'm was it only four years ago it was yeah it was four years ago time is so much is happening now but i thought it was like it was in 2020 yeah because yeah because it happened right after we moved here to Nashville and um for the longest time i kind of you haven't lost the parent yet right you kind of just like put it out of your mind and well especially my person i'm always like just i want to be strong for everyone else or anyways just recently it's really kind of hit me and i feel like i've been getting a lot of signs from my dad yeah and i felt like that was just like such a thing from my dad

i felt like he was there with us when it was happening the little ceremony was happening i'm a crier like i love i cry a lot i'm trying really hard not to cry just talking about this I cry a lot and I love to cry about things I'm really passionate about. So while the thing, while it was happening, just looking into his eyes and she's speaking, he was looking at, he's like, Justin, please don't lose your mind because he could tell that like I had that look like I was about to start sobbing. I could see your little like twitches happening. You were like, you know, like, everything was in fast motion still.

But on your video, it was like you could tell like you were trying to like. Yeah. But I felt like the comfort of my dad there. And I swear I like felt my dad's hand on my shoulder and just like, Justin, you're doing right thing. It was so beautiful. Like it was honestly the most perfect thing ever. Well, and I feel like you feel those things when you were really in the moment. Like you wouldn't have felt that if you were in this crazy chaotic setting. Like you really were present and you felt, oh, that's so special. That's such a good point that I actually didn't think about, you know. And I really

am one of those people. Like I'm 100% an empath. I feel like you probably are too. Like I really feel other, like if I had a wedding, I'd be worried about everyone else all day. Like, Are they too hot? Do they have something to drink? Are they enjoying the food? Whatever? That I'd so not be present. Yeah. But this was just all about the two of us. Then we just walked and had like a really chill lunch with my nieces and my sister was in town and we were with all of them. And it was exactly what I wanted. And then we'll go have a big fun and party when we plan it. And it'll be like over the top and it'll fun. We'll have tons of people there. And at that point, I won't have to stress about the wedding part of it. It's just a celebration. Yeah. Where do you think you would do that? Well, it's hard. You know, we live here in Nashville now for five years, but I don't have. have a big, solid group of friends here. So I also don't want to do the thing where I want to have everyone fly into Nashville. Then our favorite place is Nantucket, but Nantucket is probably the most expensive place

in America to visit. It's so freaking expensive there. You have to come this summer. We always have a big house in the summer. You have to come. I would love to. You and Kristen should come together. I would love to.

Like this past summer, we had a house. A lot of my family and friends, they all have houses there. So they go for the whole summer and Scoot and I will rent a house for like a month. and this year we had a house with like five bedrooms it was just the two of us so it's like i want people to come in town but we thought about nantucket but even that it's like everyone flying there so we'll figure it out there's also a part of me like wants to do a beautiful wedding like party in new york like we love the pierre hotel and i love winter time so everyone's all bundled up and it's like dressed up and we just do a big party yeah a new york yeah winter wonderland

like new york wedding and do like cozy chic oh yeah oh i love that no i want everyone like dressed to the nights. I want it to be like a huge party. Maybe even if the venue has to close down, we go to like some after party. Everyone parties and has fun. That sounds magical. I want to be like the most fun night ever. That sounds. I will and I love any excuse to celebrate things like obviously wedding is a big one. But like I'm I think my house, fingers crossed, I think I'm closing on my old house today. And I'm like, well, I should probably throw a party. Wait, you still have your old house. Yes. Get out of here. Honestly. So I had it on, I put it up in the market, I probably overpriced it a little bit. And then I realized that I needed staging

to be done. Yeah. Oh, it's huge. My house is, it's not like the greatest house that you've ever seen, but it was because it's kind of older. But I did a lot of little renovations. And when I had it decorated, I was always like, God, this house is beautiful. And then when you took everything out, I was like, this house sucks. No, I mean, it makes a huge. And a lot of people when they visit a house, they don't have the vision for what it can look like. But it's crazy that you say like, because I do you think Nashville's still exploding. There's so many people moving here, but real estate slowing down a little bit. I know.

And so then I pulled it from the market, got it staged, and then I put it back on and lowered the price. And so then, yeah. You start getting hit. Because I was really thinking about keeping it for a while and renting it out. And then I'm like, I don't want that headache of like renting it. I don't like people in my space, like living there. Yeah, but if you're never going back there, I mean, you could rent it out.

Yeah, but renters always suck. Like there's always something. Hey, you got to fix this and do this. Yeah, I mean, I've done that so many times in my life. I've done a lot of that. I've always had rental places in L.A. Like, that was a big part of my business. Yeah.

And yeah, it's that thing. You have to fix things all the time. I mean, it's a full-time job. Oh, full-time job. Fun conversation. I know. I was like, I was like switching gears. Let's talk about your hair.

Tell me what happened. So you wanted to chemically straighten it? Oh, my God. Because like, let's talk about the fact that you are Mr. like hair man. Like you are the best of the best at doing hair, coloring hair, everything and you wanted to what okay so we were going to new york last week for just like a fun trip with my siblings uh to like do christmas right before the actual christmas and we were going and then i looked at the forecast and it said it was going to rain all week so back in l-a i used

to do a thing on my hair called the brazilian blowout that would take the curl out everyone knows it a Brazilian blowout i did that because i have a calic that i wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy right yeah it'll pull out like a calic it'll pull out the curl your hair my hair is naturally really really curly and it's not bad but it's like unless you want to i don't Whatever. I didn't want to go to New York and it was raining and have like curly hair. So I was like, oh, I want to get a Brazilian blowout. But I didn't know who here in Nashville could do it. So I went on Amazon and just ordered a Brazilian blowout. They said it's like salon quality professional. You guys said like, that is my business. But I'm like, I'm just going to trust this. I'm like, how hard could it be?

So I bought the stuff. I did it on myself the night before we flew out. We were flying out early the next morning. It was so. I'm going to clip a clip of it. Is it on your Instagram grid or was it a story? It's on my Instagram grid because it was that bad. I'm like, this needs to live. So we're going to clip this together and put just how bad it was because I, I like spat out coffee. Like I was like, oh my God, Justin. Well, they told you to leave the product in for only like 10 minutes.

But I was like, oh, I'll leave it in while I pack. So I left it in for like an hour and a half. Then as, then you like have to run the flat iron through it. And as I was running it through, I'm not just. joking. It looked like bleach. My hair was just lightning. I was like, what the heck's going? I was like, maybe that's just like the look of the product or whatever. It full on made my hair bright orange. But why? I don't know if it like, um. So go leave a review on on Amazon and tell everybody to not do that. I know. I know. I don't want to bash the, I want to write them a letter and be like, uh, or show them, you know, because it's like a, yeah, exactly. I've had my own hair car lines. So I never want to be like nasty. That's fair. I get that. But this is definitely it's like, no, leave. that to a professional, go to a salon and actually get it. If I couldn't do it, right? Like,

my hair looked so bad. I, when you recorded Scoot's reaction, like, and I just love Scoot's demeanor so much. And he was like, his reaction, I was like, oh, my God, turn the camera on. I need to do this. But for him to get that reaction, because normally he's just like, oh, you look great, you know, like he, but that was like you couldn't hide it or whatever. But I've colored it already myself, but it's like you can still see the hints of like orange coming out. I mean, it like messed up my hair. Okay, but I kind of like the color. Well, I just did my own color correction at home the other day. And I think if I do like one more phase of it, it'll be good. But it was so bad when I, I wore a hat the whole time in New York. And I also, because like that is my world.

Like I've like, I like, Kiskew was like, oh my God, like should we move our flight or whatever? I'm like, no, I don't care. He's like, you need to get it fixed. And I like don't care. I actually don't care of my hair is messed up for a little bit. Should we move Christmas for your hair? You would. What a sweet angel baby. Oh my gosh. What else is going on in your world? Like what is I always just get so entertained by your Instagram story. Somebody said to me the other day because someone called me like an evil witch and I was like, oh my God, I was planning on doing like a TikTok about like, what's her name? Not, um, Caitlin. The green witch. Oh, Alvaba. Alfa. Yeah. I was like, this is. I was going to say a dude.

a men's elf oh well yeah at least you could did you ever see um when john chivalta said her name wrong yeah that was like one of the best things ever but i was like this is perfect this troll just gave me the best idea because she called me evil witch and i did like this whole like broom like oh my god i saw that you know when you're a kid and you like go in the mirror and you like make it look like you're blind and i was like yes and somebody said to me i love how you and jesson Anderson handled the trolls. And I was like, I wonder if, because I love watching your positivity and your Instagram stories and you're just so freaking hilarious. But I wonder, like, has the internet ever made you insecure about something? And if so, what was, what was it? Because I just had

an experience the other day where I'm like, I think my eyebrows are so fire. And I was like, do I have eyebrow blindness? Because somebody said that to me. And all these just started coming and being like, honey, I'm going to hold your hand when I say this. And I was like, What? And it was such news to me. Your eyebrows right now? Yeah. They look really good.

So I didn't fill them in. I think that was part of the problem. But my Botox kicked in a little too fast over here and it was like pointing. So I was like, I'm going to let this one go. But I was like, I would have never thought about that. But do they ever make you insecure about anything? I don't even, it doesn't have to be physical, but anything. No, it's funny.

Like I had always done a lot of social media before. Like when I went, did Kristen's reality show, it brings in a totally different audience. Right. When you do anything on TV, it's going to bring in a lot of strangers who just randomly find you from TV. And people are really, really great that follow up. But I feel like that invites more of the negative people who maybe, it's so weird because even like Kristen's show will randomly be on reruns. Oh, really? Right. Okay, so listen to how weird this is. Everyone's pretty for the most part, pretty positive with me. Whenever I'll get an influx of negativity, like in my comments or a bunch of DMs, I'm like, there must be a rerun on right now. Or it's a marathon day. And it's always

true. Whenever E is playing very cavalier, I'll get hate messages. People come in and they're just like, say stuff. It's always about my looks. But when I was on- About your looks. Well, no, because when I was on Kristen's show, my face looked wild, bro. Why? I, okay, before I went on it, I was like, okay, I'm going on TV. Like, I need my face to look good or whatever. And I was living in L.A. at the time, and I went to a doctor and I was like, shoot my face up. Like, I was like, just do whatever. Oh, with like filler and Botox? Yeah. And I will never do it. it again. For me, I don't think men look good with filler and Botox. I agree. I don't, I want to

age like a man. I just, I like the little laugh lines on my face and whatever, but so they took away all that. So if you go, I can't even go back and watch like the last season of Kristen's show because my face is frozen. I have cheeks that like I should never have because I already have big like baby cheeks like I can never lose my cheeks. But the doctor in LA convinced me to put filler up here. Yeah, but it migrated to down here. So people were kind of poking at that, but they should have, because I looked like a freak. You're like, too-shay. But the one thing that kind of caught me was I, my whole life I've had a Lisp.

Like I went to, like, what does it call? Speech therapy. And I had to do it over and over as a kid because people would make fun of my Lisp all the time. And when you're a kid, you think it's the end of the world, you know. But I hadn't gotten that for so many years because I still have the list. Classes didn't work. I don't even notice. It's a little bit there.

Like you'll notice it. And it's like, that wasn't sarcasm. I'd be like, I don't even know. No, no. I actually don't. But yeah, go on. All of a sudden, people started making up my list a lot. And they, you know, they were just like making fun of my list. So then I was like, well, I have it. I don't know what to say about it. I can't do anything about it. Like, I technically just have too big of a tongue, you know, like, so there's nothing I can do about it. Like, imagine you all of a sudden,

like worked on it so hard and you didn't have one. People would be like, oh my God, he's like, like you could never win. Now I feel like it's part of your charm. Yeah, I hope so. I feel like it is this charm. So then I also kind of played into it. I talk about my lisp all the time, and I really don't care that I have a list. You know, like, we all have, like, our little things, you know, like, you could have a lazy eye. You could have a lisp. I literally have a lazy eye. Do you?

And I had, like, two people tell me how to lazy eye, and I'm like, well, I guess I'm getting an upper bleft surgery. No. Oh, you just did that. We haven't even talked about that. I know. Yours looks great. I'm really happy with it. And good for you for sharing online.

Yeah, good for you for sharing online. That's great. Everyone should know when people do things because all of a sudden people look really good like Lindsay Lohan. You're like, what the hell does she do? I know and I want to know. I'm like, don't gatekeep Lindsay Lohan. I'm like, tell me everything because I want but then my whole problem around it, because I was like, I'm obviously going to share because I didn't think I was going to look completely different and I didn't want to. But I wasn't going to just disappear from social media for me and be like, I was taking a mental health break. No, I was getting plastic surgery. So when I did it, I was like, I want to share. And I'm like stoked on it. But I didn't want other people to start noticing their own insecurities. Like it's the whole problem with, you know,

the Kardashians. I'm like, oh, shit, do I need bigger lips? Do I need a bigger butt? It's such a bummer. So then when I go out there and I do this bluff and it's healing perfectly and I'm like loving it, I feel like I'm scared that I'm going to influence other people who might not need it. Or they're like, oh, I didn't even know about hooded eye eyelids. And now I feel like I need it. Like that was, so it was scary. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, people are starting to share more. And then I do think it gets in our heads like, wait, it looks good on them. Should I get it done? And it's like, no, unless something's been bothering you for a really long time. Which clearly. That's great. And all of us, I think that the future is like everyone's going to like look younger when they

have a bit less, you know. I think that you look at certain actresses who are aging a bit more naturally. Everyone's doing something, right? But I think some of them who are aging a bit more And actually, they look younger than the women who are their age, who have a ton of work done, you know. So I think we're also in this place where it's kind of starting to balance out. I think we'll always use, like, modern medicine. Even our skin care is so much better than it was years ago that people are looking younger and younger in our health and stuff. But, yeah, I mean, I'm people think I'm like a hater lately about the Kardashians, like, on social media because I don't really like them. I don't want them to go away.

Because Kristen has been so vocal. No, I know. Well, Kristen's my best friend. We really do. So they put it together, right? that we're the same exact person, which we kind of are, we're best friends. We talk all day long or whatever. But my thing is, it's like I kind of did want the Kardashians to go away for a little bit because I feel like they took over our culture for so long. They made plastic surgery

so everyone talked about it so much and everyone's getting so much done that it's like, and I think it changed that I have like little nieces now where I'm like, I just want them to like, I know, we're all going to do things, but let's not make that so normal that you change your entire body. Body, I know. Like some of these people don't even look like the same person anymore. I know. You know, and it's like the things that are so beautiful about people are like the character that they have. I watch a lot of really movies from like, I love movies from the 90s and the 80s. And I've been watching a lot of like Meg Ryan movies, Sleepless in Seattle and all those. And Scoot. My partner, you know, he's a little bit younger than I'm. So I'm also introducing

him to movies that he's never seen before. And he's like, everyone's so pretty in their own way. But he's like, do you notice? Because you watch movies now, everyone's face is so perfect. The cemetery is like the lips to the eyes and things aren't moving everyone's got the same brows the same brows the lips like everything it's the same yeah so when you watch these movies from the 90s it's wild like how beautiful these people look you know Kate Hudson in 10 things I or what's the 10 ways how to lose a guy in 10 days yeah you look at her and I mean she's so beautiful because she's just so natural and it's like her beaming smile and whatever where a girl now at that age would probably have really full lips you know her face wouldn't be moving as much so it's

just different. I think that we'll kind of go back to that. I think so too, but I'm, I'm like a victim of it. Like, I totally. We all are. All of us. Yeah. Like, I was like, oh, well, I was just to look like yourself. People will not agree with you on that. Oh, really? Well, I pulled up a photo the other day, um, because somebody was like, I want to see what you look like before with the hooded eyes. Oh, okay. Your eyes are way wider now. Yeah. So people, I don't know if you can like zoom in on that, but that was 10 years ago when I came off the bachelor. Now, here's the problem. I was also getting terrible Botox.

So it was drooping. Oh, drooping the eyebrow, yeah. But I always had a very hooded eye, and I've been getting shit tons of Botox to lift it. And I was like, I don't want to be going in for Botox every, like, freaking six weeks to, like, raise my eyebrows and raise my face. And I hated my hooded eye. So I was like, I'm just going to get the surgery to get a bluff. But I, like, I needed it. Yeah, yours looks really, really good.

Now I'm just like staring at it. It looks really, really good. Like, my brain actually goes, like, well, I should get a hair transplant now. Oh, my gosh. Stop. But that's what starts happening. Where do you stop? I know.

Where do you stop? Because I was like, everyone always thought I got plastic surgery, but I never had. So now I'm like, I had my, now you can say, okay, fine, all the haters. Now you can say, she's got plastic surgery. You're right. I got my eyelids done. Yeah. It's my first one.

But now I'm like, I seriously want a hair transplant. What? So I will, I want it to. I want to pull your hair line down. I want everything. I want to pull my hairline. down, I, I want to fill in gaps. I just want, I have fine, fine hair. And it's, I just want, like, I always say in another lifetime I'm going to come back as Amazon woman with all this

hair. And like, I also have PCOS. So like, I grow a beard, but I can't grow a hair in my head. Oh my gosh. But like, what would you suggest for hair growth? Like, what do I do? I'm doing hair oiling. I'm massaging. I've got like this machine that like, like, massages my scalp. I'm like trying to not do as much heat. Like, what do I do? It's so different for everybody. And I, I'm a big believer in Nutraful. I really, really believe that. There was a time, okay, so when I very first started doing hair in LA, and I was doing a lot of those young celebrity girls. And remember when that, like, crazy skinny was really in, like Nicole Richie, Lindsay Loehan, they were all like rail thin, right? Yes. And all these girls had no hair on their head. So they had tons of it

individuals. And they're like, my hair is not like, and I'm not talking about those girls specifically. Yeah. But a lot of girls who were coming in at that. time they were like my hair can't grow in or whatever i'm like because you're not eating you don't have nutrition yeah so a lot of it starts from inside the vitamins like i'm so i'm so i know so there's part of that so i think the neutral helps with that for somebody like you stress has a lot to do with it i feel like you've gone through a lot of stressful times in the past few years you know so your hair might start to get healthier and then all of a sudden you get stressed again and your body kind of remembers that and it could be shedding your hair yeah i think that even if you go to somebody really good for at the end of

coloring your hair up right so even if you go to somebody really good it's going to start to break it i tell a lot of people as much as you can take a serious break with your hair color if you can like maybe just like no hair color for like six months let it come in i did like a gloss every like however many like every six months or something but i just recently lightened it a bit more but we only used 10 volume for the bleach and it lifted so much so i'm like okay now i can like definitely you know just do a tone or something every yeah so often well and the thing that you I love that you just said the 10 volume thing because a lot of people over the first time I ever colored your hair I remember because I can touch someone's texture because I've done so much

hair and I'm like oh this will light light and really easy right so you can go on all these different levels of blonde you go 10 20 30 40 with bleach right with you I remember remember I put 10 on you and you lift so fast like your hair wants to be blonde right so had I not known that I was like oh I don't want her to sit in the chair for too long I'm going to put 30 on boom it'll snap the hair in me yeah Yeah, exactly. Oh my God, that story is the absolute words. I burnt off Katie Perry's hair

is what she's talking about. I've told that on the story so many times at this point, but it was crazy. I only said that because I knew you were public about sharing. Yeah, no, I talk about all the time. I mean, it wasn't my fault.

She came to me with the most busted hair ever and she was like, just push it. And I was like, Katie, your hair is going to fall off and sure enough, it all fell off. But yeah, hair color has a lot to do with it. And then there's just some people just have finer hair. And I do. And I do.

I just have fine hair. But a hair transplant is so aggressive. Are you being funny? When you said, you like, No. You want to go and get it done? I want to fly to turkey. So where are they going to take the hair from the back of your neck and put it on top of your head?

I don't know. Maybe my chest and my beard from my PCOS and throw it in my hair. I'm serious. I don't know. Yeah, maybe from the back. I heard that Chrissy Teigen got hair transplant in her eyebrows. Oh, yeah. That's a real thing.

I also. But then you know that you have to like trim them. Every day. They're like bangs. Cover over your hair. your eyes. That is so creepy to me. Okay. But I swear to you on everything, I want to go to Turkey for a hair transplant. And I don't know. Do I have to shave my head? No, no. What they do is they'll go into the back of your hair. They'll take a strip out the back of your scalp and then they

move it up to the front. Like they actually pull out the follicles and put in it. But you know that they don't put you under. I feel cramps. My cramps on a level 10 are like, I'm in the fetal position blacking out from pain and like almost throwing up. And I'm like just not a awake for a hair transplant. I'll Xanax myself up. Okay. I wonder if that is like, because I have a friend who's there right now doing it and just explain to us.

Mark Block? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So Kristen was talking about it. So he shared that on social media. Yes. We're not exposing the secrets.

He's been sharing his journey. Him and Kristen were talking about it. She was saying that he was awake and she's like, that's not normal. I'm like, no, I've heard that all the time. They keep you awake while it happens. I couldn't do it for that reason alone. You don't need it, but I get it. Everyone wants to do what they need to do.

And then also, we live once. Why not? Well, that's another thing. I'm like, I'm so sick of people telling me what I should and shouldn't do with my looks. Like, I'm like, I, like, who knows if I'll actually go to freaking turkey and get a hair transplant? I don't know. That would be a wild move. But even if like, if I did, I'm like, but I'm doing it for me.

You're doing it for you. And yes, the other thing is I feel like it's such a bummer that we all feel so comfortable commenting on each other's looks. Because we all share so much and we talk about so much on social media. But I think that we should just let people do what they want to. do. It's so crazy because I'll see like these people, you'll see an aging celebrity on Instagram and they post something and the comments are like, why are you doing all that stuff to your face? You look terrible. Stop putting fill in your face. And they're saying all that stuff because they see it and they feel that way. But you're talking to a human. And a lot of times when you see

somebody, I always think like when you see a woman who's maybe in her 60s who's been in Hollywood forever and she's always known as like a beautiful woman. All of a sudden they're getting a lot of stuff to their face. They're doing it because they feel insecure about aging. And then now you're making in fun of them about the way that they look so you'll never win. So do what you want to do. Exactly. And people always want you to look the same as when they first got to know you. Oh my God. That's a real thing. It's, I'm like, I can't help that I look different 10 years from now. Like everyone thinks I've done so much, but really I'm just 10 years older than I was when you saw me on The Bachelorette. It's so wild. I mean, Kristen is my best friend. Kristen's been on TV

since she was 16 years older. So you see her change so much. So I see the way that people talk about Kristen, I'm like, you guys, she's growing up. She also has never looked better. She looks the best she's ever looked at. And Kristen, it was really against a lot of stuff. She doesn't, well, and she doesn't need to do it. She's freaking gorgeous naturally. But, like, you know, you lose your baby fat and your cheeks.

You know, like our noses start to look smaller as we get older. And then they start to get bigger again because your noses never stop growing. But, like, your face changes. And people are just going to scrutinize all the time. And it's like, these people are real. I know. But then I'm like, well, I open myself up for it. I'm like, hey, guys, look at my bliff.

Yeah. You know, it's like, it's just always such a fine line of like caring and not caring and doing what you want and then being worried about what, like, it's so weird having some sort of like platform of, because you're, you are opening your world up to criticism. And that is partly on like, you know. Yeah. I, I think it is also different for men and women. I have to be very honest. I feel like men get way more of a past than women, obviously, you know. So when you talk to me about things that people say to me, it's way different. I see the way that people talk about my girlfriends who are who are online and stuff like that.

And I'm like just blown away that people talk to each other like this. But the things that I get. So the other day when we did our Wicked, we both did it like the same day. We did? Yeah, it was like a thing. And that's why people were being like, oh, my God, I love how you and Justin clap back at the trolls. I was in Nantucket and I was live. I love going live on Instagram.

I love when you go live on Instagram. I literally social media, like these are my friends in my phone. Like it went away for no other reason that I would just miss chatting with people because I love it, right? So I go live all the time. And I was in Nantucket for like a week straight. And we were partying. I loved to party.

When I'm home, I don't drink at all. But when I go, I'm a madman, right? So one night I was on live and we were kind of drunk. We were walking home from dinner. I was just chatting with my friends and somebody made a really shitty comment. My dad essentially passed away from alcoholism, you know? And I've talked about it before. And it was like a thing.

So people know about that, you know. It wasn't necessarily suicide, but there was a lot of things. During COVID, my dad went to a dark place. so somebody said something so shitty in my live while i'm having fun i'm laughing with everyone and just said the nastiest thing like they knew what they were doing to try to get under my skin about my dad passing with alcoholism and all this stuff and i just read it and it was the one time where i just was like i clicked off the phone or whatever and scoot was walking behind me he's like what happened i was just like and i kind of explained to him i got a little teary eyeed and it like

made me a little bit emotional because that's the kind of stuff where i'm like what is your point why are you trying to go so low and i get it some people are at home and they're miserable. So you go under your phone and you see someone having fun and you kind of want to knock them down for a minute. And that is something I never want to understand. I don't understand. I never want to understand trying to take away somebody's sunshine a little bit.

I don't get it. Why not try to enjoy it? You know, feel the warmth of the sunshine. Why are you trying to take it away? I mean, I just feel like this world is so sad. Like, everybody is sad and suffering in some ways. And like nobody's getting the proper health. that they need and they like that brought them like probably two seconds of joy to see that that

bothered you which is so sick i always feel like there's a line to him like social media somehow needs to come up with not rules but like it should be illegal for the level of bullying that i've seen to people like when leum pain died oh my gosh yeah bullying the ex-girlfriends and saying should have been you and like you did this like that should be illegal well you don't know what it does to these who are like feeling that stuff you could be the strongest person in the world but when you're talking about death i mean that was the thing with like with my dad you could say whatever you want me and i really do have thick skin about it because whenever i see these things especially if they come at me i'm like i know this person is not in a good spot right so i know i'm not they're not whatever

but when you're talking about death like that is horrible i also think that it's like somebody's got to figure something out where everyone has their face or their name has to be on their profile you can't have these fake troll accounts like the troll because that's where it's all happening And nobody's saying it with their real face. No, no one. And if they are, I'm like, I'm contacting your business and wherever you work. And I'm getting you fired. Yeah, well, it's just like you've got to be held accountable.

Nowhere else in the world, you wouldn't say it to someone's face in real life. So put your face behind it. And if they have to go on a troll account, I'm like, that's really sad and embarrassing for you. It wouldn't happen on my live. A bunch of people who are on live were screenshot again. They went to go back and talk crap to the person after the person, like, changed their whole name. So they disappeared. And it's just like, so when I made my clapback video,

the next day. I was like, I'll be fine. I woke up this morning. I'm in Nantucket with my partner. I'm happy. But you had to change your name and you're still hiding in the shadows. And I'm going to keep doing my thing. But I do have a lot of empathy for people who are sad. I think, I also think it's hard. You imagine somebody who's not in a good place and you're just watching people constantly share good on social media, right? And what that's got to do to you when you're not in a good place. And to anybody out there listening, if you are in a bad place. I think one of the biggest pieces of advice you can get is take a break from social media. Especially around the new year when everybody's going to celebrate their wins of 2024.

Exactly. No one's going to share their freaking lowest points of 2024 or when it's coming into 2025. Everyone's going to be like doing that TikTok, January, February, February, March, and you're like, oh, oh, I know. And it's hard. You know, we were never, this was never supposed to be the way we were supposed to live. I know. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now ending. And if I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind a rating in a movie.