Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Katelyn Brown | Music, Motherhood, & Marriage!

Episode Date: May 21, 2024

#738. In this lively episode of "Off the Vine," Kaitlyn Bristowe sits down with singer & business owner Katelyn Brown, wife of country music star Kane Brown. Katelyn shares her personal journey in the music industry, including a pivotal moment when a producer introduced her to Kane, leading to their love story. She opens up about the challenges of balancing artistic integrity with commercial expectations and reveals how she managed to keep her second pregnancy a secret. Katelyn also teases new music collaborations with Kane and reflects on their unique dynamic and the value of handling arguments with care in their marriage. Tune in for a mix of heartfelt stories and humorous moments, like how she is getting ready for baby #3! Don't miss this intimate conversation packed with insights on love, family, and the music industry! If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE! EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS (5:04) – How Katelyn was supposed to meet Kane during her music video shoot years before. (9:25) – Navigating the music industry (20:55) – How Katelyn kept her second pregnancy a secret and the reasons behind it. (26:05) – Upcoming music collaborations with Kane and future releases. (31:20) – The first night Katelyn and Kane met and their shy, charming interactions. (42:43)– The importance of handling arguments well in their marriage. Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals! Bombas: Head over to See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to a advisor free of charge but mGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with igaming ontario oh the vine hey everybody welcome to off the vine i am kb and we've got another kb in the house today another katelyn kately brown we all know her from her song thank god that one with her husband kane brown and we figured out we have the same birthday we are gemini sisters and you could tell to through this whole interview because we were just hitting it off. I'm like, are we new best friends? We talk about her family life, how she balances it all, career, being a mom, being a partner, being on the road, everything she's got going on. We talk about how her and Kane keep it exciting,

keep it romantic in the relationship, and where her confidence and talent really came from. I loved talking to her, and I think you're really going to like this interview. So we were talking before we started recording about how I interviewed Kane. Yeah. It was like 2007. Yeah, it was a while ago. It was a while ago. And I couldn't wait to talk to you today because I was like, oh my gosh, this is such a funny story. Well, now it is. I thought he hated me.

No. I also thought you hated me. What? But that's because, and I'll tell you why. Okay, yeah, I want to hear this. You know, when you're in like a really bad place in your life and you think, overthink everything and you nitpick everything, like, when I'm in a really bad place, I'll start picking apart my looks and my face and I'll think people hate me. Yeah. And so that day, I knew that he was like, he was honestly taking a time out of his day and his busy schedule to do this. And it was really sweet. But like you said it in other interviews, he's not a man of many words. Yes. And so I had just gone through a huge breakup with my fiance from the show. And so the news was coming out in People magazine that day that Tron and Caitlin and they're an engagement. And I was like so mortified and so upset because it was like one of the biggest heartbreaks for me. And I had actually flown in my day. And I had actually flown in my day. And I was like. And I'm actually flown in my day. And I. And I was like. And I was like. And I was like. And I'm actually flown in my day. And

to be with me because I was like, I can't do it. I remember that your dad was there. I thought that was so sweet that your dad was there. My dad literally flies in anytime I'm like having a hard time. And so he came with me and I was like, oh God, it's such a big deal. I get to interview him and blah, blah, and I was just in such a bad place. And you know that? Taylor Swift's song, do it with a broken heart. Yes. I'm like, I'm so depressed. I like, it's my bad. And I was like in such a You would never know, though. Thank you. I should be an actress. You would never know. But it was so funny because now looking back, I'm like, oh my gosh, I was just in such a bad place. And but then somebody I know went to one of his concerts and he talked to him.

Okay. And Kane was like, oh, can you tell her I was actually having such a bad day that day? And I'm so sorry I wasn't like. Was he? I don't even, I'm trying to remember that day. I mean, it was 2017. Oh, yeah. This was a while ago.

Yeah. But also, like, back to your point of you being like, I felt like he hated me, that's not the first time that someone has set that up for him. He's so, like, chill and men. like very uh does not show a lot of expression yes where we're like so opposite in that sense he kind of like lets me take over a room when we go somewhere because he's like please just talk to everyone he's quiet conservative and so a lot of people will mistakenly be like I don't think he and I'm like no he's just really chill isn't that funny though like if men are like that

they're like I don't think he likes me if women are like that they're like she's a bitch totally isn't that interesting it sucks right good thing we're Gemini bubbly personality so you can take over a room. Yes, totally. I always feel like I need to date someone next to, like, is like that. Like, chill, doesn't go here or here, just kind of stays here. It's a good balance. Because I am real.

Because if I was married to someone like me, then, like, my anxiety, I have bad anxiety, would be unreal. I hear that. So with him being like, what are you, what, just relax, just chill. Yes. Keeps me saying. My anxiety would have anxiety if I had someone like me. 100%. Oh my gosh.

That's funny. Well, you guys are cute as heck. And even that day I was like, you weren't married yet, were you? You met in 2016. I got married in 2018. Yeah. Married in 2018. So no, we weren't married, no kids.

Yeah, that was a while ago. I learned so much about you while I was doing my research. And it was so fascinating to me because I didn't know, but you were pursuing music before you even met. Yeah, that's actually how we met. That's how you met. Yeah. Okay.

So many people on my Facebook group were like, please have her tell the story of how they met. Yeah. Something about how he was, you were supposed to. meet before but he didn't show up like what's the story it is like so crazy how things align you know that's why i'm like god just has this crazy plan for us and we just can't even make this up there's so many connecting points that it was like this was destined to happen but yeah i was doing music didn't even know cane i've been doing music since i was like a little kid really yeah audition i was so into music and dance and theater and you worked with people that worked with

like brittany spears and like some big names yeah yeah so i um won a singing competition and I signed with a manager. His name's Johnny Wright. I signed with him and sorry, I sound out of breath. It's like pregnant. This baby. It's like I'm out of breath and I'm not pregnant. So. But I signed with him and was doing music and I was about to put an album out and I was shooting a video. And the producer of the song was like I know this guy, which was Kane that I'm working with who would be perfect for this video. Was it like going to be a love interest video? Yeah. So they actually had like a model from an agency. picked out and I was like no he looked so much older than me he was like huge muscle I'm like this is so not real yeah yeah and so we wanted cane to do it but he had his first sold out show at this bar I think in North Carolina that night no way so he couldn't do it oh I thought he was just a no show okay now I feel better about this so he just couldn't do it so who did you get to do it so we never met in person yet I just heard of him oh so you just had to deal with some random person they

brought in no I cut the guy out of it completely there was incredible there was no love interest at that point. Oh, cute. So I had this song. It was called Perfect Pop Song, shot the video, turned it into like a total girl's video. Yeah. And yeah, I never met Kane, never heard of him, never even looked him up after that or anything. No way. It was just like a thought, talked about and moved on. And then a year later with that same producer, he was going to one of Keynes shows in Tampa. And I was in Miami working on my album. And there was like 15 of us, songwriters. everybody and he was like let's go up and watch him and that's when we actually first met like a year later yeah see isn't that crazy do you feel like i always feel like timing's everything to like

kind of what you were saying the plan like there's always a plan yeah for all of us totally do you think you would have been in the right mindset to meet him when you did or would it just have started a year earlier than it did or what no i don't i don't think honestly that's like a great question because I don't think that it would have worked probably maybe just because I was so career driven and focused and at the time so hungry and whatever I was doing that I probably wouldn't have dropped what I was doing at that point but some things happened in that year where I was kind of getting a little jaded from the music industry I was definitely put on shelf life and so by the time we reconnected it I was over it interesting you know what I mean yes but that first time I was like

shooting my video. I was doing my thing. I'm like, no one's going to slow me down. But then like, yeah, a year later, I kind of was like in a different place. Feeling different about it. Huh. I've heard this about the music industry, how it can, you know, especially for women, I think. So what made, like, what was like a pivotal moment in your career and what like changed your mind? Like, did something specific happen? Or were you just like, all together, I'm over it? There was, it was really hard for me to step back from it. Because it was my whole life. Yeah. Yeah. And it was my outlet and it's what I love. I still love.

But there was lots of moments. There was lots of situations in recording studios that I didn't like. The way I was talked to by certain people I didn't like. The way that I didn't have a say in certain things I didn't like. And I just felt like I was very pure and innocent as a younger girl. And I was not in some of the right environments at the time. And I felt in my soul, this is not where I need to be right now. That is so, I'm, I don't know you very well, but we're Geminized and I'm proud of you.

Thank you. Because I feel like I was not an innocent, young lady. I was like kind of like, I liked to push limits and do things and put myself in situations to get ahead. And it never ended like, I was never, yeah. And if I would have had a better head on my shoulders, I mean, I might not be where I am today, but I would have been like, no, this is not right. this doesn't feel right to me and cut it off sooner so to be someone who is more innocent and knowing in your gut and trusting your gut i'm i don't know i just find that so cool that you didn't say like well i guess this is the music industry and this is what i got to do i did for a

little bit but i just felt like even on our car ride over here today i was showing poppy and elena some old music yeah and i was like i can't even believe i agreed to sing that or i can't even believe I you know and so I felt that it was changing me and that wasn't like truly who I was yeah and I knew what I like to sing yeah but they were like oh but we want to make you super pop but I'd love to sing R&B and like soul music yes I'm like soul R&B but then vocally they're like no we want this is what's going to work on radio this is pop this is what you need to do and I would do it yeah well because it worked but I was like cringing at some of the songs because I'm like this doesn't it doesn't like feed my soul You know what I mean?

Yeah, I do. So I just kind of, so when I met Kane, his career was like really popping off. He just moved to Nashville a couple months prior from Chattanooga. His whole, he posted a cover on Facebook that just blew up overnight. That's a wild story. Yeah. Like Sony did everything, like overnight. But didn't he win some sort of award when he wasn't represented by anybody?

I sound like a horrible wife. Maybe I don't, I can't remember. It was, it was like 2016. I remember being at the CMT Awards or CM something and he won an award and it was a big deal because he did it like alone. Yes. Yes. I don't know what award it is, but you're right. Yes. Yeah. It was incredible what happened. So when, so you meet him, his career is popping off. You're choosing to kind of step back. How do you not, this is me projecting right now. I would build resentment and I would have a really hard time because I'm a competitive asshole. Yeah. Was it hard for you? Or, I'm sure it was, to be like, okay, well, it's your turn.

That's a great question. Especially because a man in the industry. Yeah, yeah. And you feel like the industry is dominantly men. Yes. And that's an awesome question because I did not feel resentment. Great. I felt actually really grateful because I loved music so much to still be a part of whatever he was doing.

And at the time, I was like, okay, if I'm stepping away from music, I'm not, I'm, I'm a go-getter. I'm like, I'm not going to just sit here and be like, this girlfriend on the sidelines. Totally. So I applied to Berkeley school music out of Boston. And while he was starting his career, I was finishing my degree in music business and management, which that's where I, where I graduated from. That's so cool, because you dropped out of school. I did. Pursue music, still want to be in the business. You didn't want to be like just like a, which I have been the side girlfriend, my ex-player. hockey and I lost myself because I'm also a go-getter. Yeah.

So you went and graduated college to be in the music industry still. Now where do you go from that? Yeah. And I felt, so I felt grateful. I didn't never felt resentment. I was always so. I'm like skipping my own question. You're like, circle back, Caitlin.

Well, no. Yeah. I was like so excited for him, experiencing those things with him. Cool. There was a sense of failure for myself, for sure, that I went through that like I devoted it's so much of my time and life into something and it didn't work out. And so during school is kind of where I navigate it feeling like I'm still doing something. Yeah. I'm going to find what I'm going to do. Yeah. I'm not going to give up yet. Maybe it's somewhere else. And to be

honest with you, stepping away from music made me realize that I love doing the creative stuff in the studio way more than performing it and being the artist and being the star. Like I... So you ended up where you're supposed to be. Yeah. And you get to be an incredibly supportive partner out of it because you get that world. You can help. And now you. And now I get to dabble in it as well.

Well, yeah. You get a number one song. And do like all the creative stuff. Wow. But it's the best of both worlds for me because I don't know if I could handle what he does. Right. Especially watching what he does. Thank God he's chill.

Because, no pun intended. But I'm like, thank God he's chill. Because I would be so stressed over a lot of the, a lot of the things that he has to do. Do you get really protective of him as a partner? Yes. Don't mess with my husband. I will kill you. Yeah. Because that's, I mean, not just in the industry outside, the noise, the social media. Yeah. I mean, I always say I can't imagine certain people getting hate. I can't imagine you guys having trolls, but I'm sure there are. Oh, we have tons. Everybody does. I know, but I can't think you can't think you can. I feel like you could cure cancer and whoever that is will still get

You're so right. You know what I mean? Like you just can't win. I just don't read it. That's true. Because you know what? As I'm saying it, I'm like, of course you do because jealousy is such a real thing. And people, of course, want this loving, happy partnership and get to travel the world and live your dreams and bring your family.

Of course there's going to be trolls. Yeah. Always. Yeah. How do you guys handle that? You don't read it. We don't read it. Incredible.

I mean, we used to. Yeah. And it would bother me. Or I'd read like everything. and there'd be thousands and thousands and thousands of great comments and then there's one. And it's like, why does that one bother me? Yeah. And then you click their page and they have like one picture posted.

I get a load of this. I cracked a code and I found out who my troll was. What do you mean? And she's someone I know. Stop. Yeah. This is crazy. So this girl has hated me and I'm, I try to have so or maybe not so much, but like a little bit of

compassion and empathy because this person has gone through hell in her life and she really hated me because I dated a guy that she dated. Yeah. And then in my 20s, they broke up. So, okay, they were dating. They broke up. We started dating. We broke up. They went back to dating and he had told me that they had broken up again and we like made out or something. Yeah. And then I found out they were still together. I thought I was doing the right thing and I told her because I was like, I didn't know, and I really wanted to, like, help you and, like, I'm here for you. And we were girls' girl. Yeah. And she was like, you're just jealous of what I have. And she, like, threatened me, like, pretty badly. And so now she, and so then I used to get these nasty text messages from her that said,

like, the worst things you could possibly say coming from her. Like, and I'd be like, oh, you're scaring me. Again, this was like 12 years ago, 13 years ago. But I always get this fake account. And I realized it's all the similar things that you think that the person would say to me like very specific you can see the way she like in yeah right and so all I said was and we're going to blank bleep this name out but I said hi deleted never never never got it's gone so you knew like it just made it factual yeah oh my gosh I'm like you know it's so scary because sometimes these haters could be people that are like just you did one thing wrong to them 10 years ago yeah it could be be your cousin. It can be your freaking cousin who was like, God, I wish I had what you had. Like, you just don't know and it's so scary. And at the end of the day, it's just sad. So you just got to stay away from it. I'm glad you guys do that. Yeah. And honestly, like, the older I've gotten, the easier it is. Yeah. And like, and like, and like, and like. And like, and like. And like, and like. And like. And like. And I know. As long as I have my kids. Like I'm, you can't affect me. You know, you see. You know, your priorities. And totally change. I mean, I know, because I have two dogs. Just

Hey, they count. They totally count. I'm a psycho. I'm that person. People get mad at me when I say happy Mother's Day to me because I'm a mother to a dog. They're like, how dare you? No, I have three. You have three dogs?

Yeah. But I would take my children over my dogs any day. At this point, because they are like the most annoying things now that I do have kids. Yeah. I'm like, they're hard. I would rather have kids than dogs. I would rather have dogs than friends. But I didn't feel that way until I had kids

My dogs were everything to me I still, because one day I do want to have children Even if I do it on my own Yeah, you should I probably will Yeah, I probably will But I'm like, I can't imagine like having Do you, okay, you still love your dogs

But you just love your kids so much more that you're like Or what is it? Or you're like no Well, I love my kids so much more, of course But like, no, they're just, they knock the kids over They bark in the morning and wake them up They're so, tell me, are they not the most annoying dogs in the world? We have two German shepherds. I'm obsessed with Germans.

Oh, and I love them individually. Yes, okay. But all of them together with three dogs and then about to have three kids. That's a lot. I'm going to lose my mind. And then we have an old English bulldog. His name is Rambo. Oh, he's like this fat little gremlin boy.

I love. Oh, but so mean and territorial. He loves us. Or territorial than a German? up to pet him he'll he'll like his hair will stand up and he's like yes and he's so cute looking so so you want to pet him people want to pet him he's he's not one of those bulldogs with like the drool with like the overbite he's actually very attractive bulldog and so I think I've seen photo someone I have to show you yeah and he is he's so cute but he's such a freaking asshole what are your other two dogs names

Kenya and Cash Kenya and Cambo you have a lot of K names in there except Rambo and it's so fitting. That's so, because he's like the oddball. He's the OG child. Like, we had him first. Yeah. But then we start this whole K name thing because we're all KBs. Yes. Which you are too. Which is so weird. Oh my gosh. Two KBs born on June 19th. You're just a little bit younger than me. That's just crazy. That is crazy. But yeah, we're all KBs. So we named our kid, all of our kids are KBs. This one will be a KB, which I'm not saying his name until he's born. Oh, I have so many thoughts. We had Rambo first. So he was just Rambo. And then we got our shepherd. And then we got our shepherd. four years ago, Kenyon Cash.

Wait, you hid your second pregnancy. I did. I don't know how I did it now. How and why? Did you just like, I want to have this time to myself? Yeah, I did. I just, you know, back to social media, so many people like, why are you eating this? Why are you doing this?

And I was just like, I can't imagine. I felt like everything in our lives is so public and exposed that it kind of was fun to have this secret to myself and I wasn't planning on doing it the whole nine months we just were going to like maybe announce when I was five or six months keep a little time to ourselves but then it almost turned into like this game I was like wait how long can we go how did you do it you just hid big big big size clothes are in and I just wore like big baggy sweatshirts and it was the fall by the time I was getting big and I wore jackets and but I went to an award show eight months pregnant way and nobody knew nobody knew how did you wait what did you do we made sure we told the camera people

because our table was like right in the front shot we told the camera guy do not film her below her chest and luckily that year it was like they had a dinner arrangement yeah we had tables so I so did you not do the carpet I did not do the carpet okay okay because I didn't want to risk getting so we had our photographer guy come to our house and do our own shots to take and then we skip the carpet. That's fun. I like having secrets. It was it was fine, especially in the world of social media when you guys obviously have very big platforms and fans and like you said, they'll say, why are you eating that? What are you doing? Which I'm sure they do with kids all the time. But I feel that way right now about dating. Like I want to keep it a secret so badly.

Totally. No matter who I'm with, I just feel like I want to keep that like a sacred time because eventually it'll come out, but I want to keep it secret. And also like with dating, I feel like it's so unpredictable in the, you know, in the beginning. And it's like, it's so easy to get caught up in a honeymoon phase where you're like, no, this is the one. And then it ends up not being the one. And now then now you have to tell everybody again. Yes. You know what I mean? I don't want to do it for the third time. Yeah. I've had two, two engagements that have not worked out and I'm like, I'm not doing this a third time. But good for you for finding out before getting into it. You know what I mean? Yes. So I look at that as a win. A win is a win.

I will look at that as a win. I do agree with that because I don't want to have to do the divorce. But sharing dogs, don't ever do that. Yeah, no. Well, at this point, if I had to share a dog, they could have it. I wish my ex felt that. I always was like, you could just have it. So, okay, obviously everybody was obsessed with your guys's song together. I just didn't know you were into music, I guess, until that song. And I was like, oh, her voice is unbelievable. Your voice is so sweet. So good. Did that feel so good to get out there and sing again? It did. It felt really good. And, of course, for it to go number one, then you're like, it feels pretty good. Yeah, I mean, I had no idea that that song was going to do what it did. I thought it would be, like, cute, and it was going to be a placement on the album. And they'd be like, oh, Kane did a song with his wife, like, oh, you know.

Did Kayne know it was going to be that big? He kept saying it was. He's like, this is going to be huge. And, like, his OG fans knew that I did music. They did their research. You know, they dig. Of course. But I've never been someone that kind of like comes out and I'm like, I sing and I do this.

Like, it's not about me. Yeah. And I'm not trying to. And I love music. I'm not questioning you being a Gemini. I'm like, hey, everybody, look at me. But like what I said, I didn't, I don't care so much about people knowing. Yeah.

But I do miss doing it. Yeah. And so it was like the perfect combination of like doing something so special with my husband. Totally. I'm getting to dabble in something that I've missed so much. He must have been so proud of you. He was. Yeah.

He was. But that's, I mean, working together as partners can be, you know, beautiful and also challenging. Totally. Because what was like the, what was, I always call it the peaks and valleys or the high vibes and the low vibes. What was like the highest vibe of doing the song together? What was the lowest vibe of doing the song together? I think the peak was being in the studio cutting it because it was very. Like surreal?

Surreal. Yeah. And Kane was on the other side of the glass being like, yeah, babe, like, you're killing it. And just like having his support, because I was actually a little nervous. Of course. Just because I knew that I've done music.

I've been in the studio hundreds and hundreds of times. But now here we are in Nashville. My husband's this, like, country star. You know, all these people work with him. And he's like, I'm going to bring my wife with me today. So I know everyone was probably like very curious to see how this was going to go. Absolutely. They're probably like, wow.

Oh, okay. Hopefully. I mean. Yeah, of course. But I was, you know, it's a little intimidating because it's been, years since I got in the studio. Have you ever done country? I never did country. Yeah. But I felt like thank God was just like the perfect song so I could stay true to who I was. Yeah. And Kane does his thing. Yeah. And it's like I didn't have to change the way I sang. Yeah.

To do thank God. And he didn't either. That's cool. And it just worked. And it's singing like riding a bike. Like did you have to practice or were you like, oh no, still got it? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, still go back in and sing it. But like do you want to keep singing? Are you going to come out with more music now? Yeah, me and Cain have a couple songs now that we've recorded. Are they out? No, they're going to come out. Hopefully by the end of this year or the top of next year. And then I think I might do some like little project or something.

You know, we're just for fun. Well, you're in the music industry. Like, you're on the business side of things now. So, like, the fact that you can do both means you can do some really big things. I just feel like the sky's the limit. Yeah. And I don't have to have anyone tell me what to. Like, I can literally do what I want, which is like the best.

position to be in. What a feeling. And having Kane too, he's like, babe, you're in the perfect position. You can literally, there's no one telling you what to do. And it's everything that I hate it prior when I was doing music and being told what to do and this is going to work and this isn't. It's kind of like, there's no pressure here. I kind of want to punch you in the face. You're literally like so beautiful, so sweet, so kind. And you're so talented. You're creative and business driven and How do you balance being a mom, a partner, a businesswoman, like everything that you're doing, how do you do it? Well, there's a lot of panic attacks in between. Oh, yeah, I've been there.

Been there. But no, no. Well, anxiety's real. I thrive being busy. Yeah. I am not someone that can sit around and do nothing. Yeah. It's really hard for me.

Yeah. And I feel purposeful. I feel like I have a bigger purpose. And I always felt like that since I was a kid. Yeah. And I think that's why I'd grab. gravitated towards music because even as a little kid, my mom told me I would tell her, mommy, I'm going to do something big. I'm going to do something big. And I never wanted to do

what all the other kids were doing. And I just feel like I've always had that drive inside of me. And I love seeing how many things I can do. That takes a lot of confidence, though, because like where did you get your confidence from? I don't know. Like if, for example, like growing up was your family like, yes, you can do whatever you want and yes, you will do something. mom yeah my dad was kind of like these voice lessons are expensive yeah she really want to do this right but my mom was like my biggest supporter and my parents got divorced when I was around 12 and so my mom was just like my best friend and we had fun she'd take me I'm from right outside philadelphia so we'd take the train up to New York City do auditions I'd leave school we'd go to auditions

I'd go to voice lessons that's where your confidence comes from my gosh how many how many rejections and noes have you been told a few but not many actually a lot of yeses actually no a few but like i don't know i just um but that'll build confidence and character it does yourself there's 0.01% of people who will actually put themselves in those kinds of positions to succeed and i feel like the more you do that the more confidence you gain the more opportunities you gain totally i agree and when i went for these auditions I was always the most nervous sick go in the bathroom throw up no I was not like a stage kid I just loved to do it and I was like if this is what I want to do I have to suck it up and figure out a way to get over this that's my favorite saying is to say do it scared yeah scared just do it scared yeah

yeah where like Kane even to this day I am done with the tour right now because I do in like four weeks yes five weeks and so we were just doing shows I just did the first nine shows on his tour and I'm still like And everyone's like Aren't you used to this yet? I'm like this just doesn't get easier I feel like I mean that's those are some big crowds

Big especially like he's doing stadiums And I'm like yeah I got out there two weeks ago And I was just like Oh shit what am I doing And here I am pregnant And I'm like I don't know how you do that

Because so I I've written a couple songs Put a couple songs out there Yes you have What do you like Do you love I love it? so much. I'm writing again at the end of the month and I'm actually very excited because

it's something that I really love doing as well. I don't have like your voice or like that, but I love doing it and I have a good, my range, I'm good in my range. I can't do the crazy stuff. That's what I always say. Just hone in on what you're good at. Yes. Don't try to be anybody else. Yes. And you will be great. And that's what I'm going to do. I'm proud of you. Thank you. Good for you. God, thanks. I don't remember what I was going to say. Doesn't it feel like therapy session too when you write a song yeah i always say like if i went on my instagram was like this is how i'm feeling i'm gonna be like oh yakes you're kind of a bitter bitch if i sing it they're like that's beautiful yeah i relate to that i relate to that if i am nervous i can't even sing because i lose my

breath because when you're nervous you hold your breath you're pregnant nervous and still belting out songs in front of a stadium yeah i i don't i don't know i don't know because i'm not comfortable i'm telling you I'm not comfortable but it's crazy yeah it's pure talent yeah well it just I think it's bad and then once you're out there you're like okay well I'm here let's just own it yeah you know that's good for you so I know we kind of talked about the initial first meet of you too how it was supposed to be a certain time but then what was it just instantaneous like could not get enough of each other so when we first met that first night he didn't say anything to me but we kept making those like weird eye contacts we're like you know we need

you're looking at someone and then they look and then you're quick like yeah yeah yeah like oh gosh he just caught me looking at him that was we kept doing that to each other yeah but did not say a word he was super shy clearly he doesn't speak get it um but then after that night he reached out to that producer that we mutually were working with and was like hey can i get kately's number like you know i thought she was cute or whatever and um and that's kind of like how it started and he texted me He's like, should come up to Nashville some time. And I came up for a weekend and we went out with his friends on Broadway. And when I tell you, like, even to this day, it was the most fun weekend of my life.

Really? We had so much fun. Oh, and fun little story to add to this. So he invites me up to Nashville. I fly up. I booked myself a red eye. I was like, I'm not going to book a red eye in case I want to leave this night. Or I booked the first one in the morning.

So we went out, we got drunk. We had the best time of our lives. Like, he was like, let's go out again tonight. night. So I stayed the next night. And then I was going to leave that next morning. It was Sunday morning. And he was like, do you want to, I have a show tonight. I have to leave or tomorrow. Do you want to come with me? And I was like, sure. Well, I only knew that he was starting to do like these like little bars, you know, these intimate things. He forgot to mention when we pulled up to this show, he was opening for Florida Georgia Line. And I'm like, who are you? Oh my gosh. So I was like, what are you doing? He's like,

know I'm this isn't my show he's like I'm the opener and I was like oh my that's huge yes exactly because I was like I did not know anything about him really with his career and the last time I knew anything it was like these little underground bars and stuff like that must be so nice too because you know a lot of people out there would like be like oh well you're this person like let's date yeah just had like a natural connection totally and so wait then if he's so shy it does he have game once he gets warmed up? Or did you like that he didn't have game and that was his game? Oh, I kind of liked that he didn't have game. I think

that's a good thing. I don't like a too confident man. I don't like a guy that looks like he takes too much time in the bathroom. He cares too much about his hair. I don't want someone that's like smooth with his line. He was just so normal and like unapologetically

himself. Nice country Georgia boy. Not trying to show off. Not trying to be like let me take you to this nice place. We went to like some bar on Broadway, we didn't go to some fancy dinner, that is my style. I love that. Don't try to impress me because it would be the biggest turnoff for me. You are the same as me. I literally, I want a dad bod. I don't want them to even have hair. I don't care. Like, I just want them to be just so comfortable in who they are and not try and be anything

else. Totally. And I loved his tattoos. I was just like, there's something rough about you, but I liked it. And he obviously felt the same way about you. Yeah. cute and now you're on your third baby with three dogs yeah i can't yeah married now five years and here we are and making music making music and making babies it's a dream dang man you're giving me hope i'm excited to hear the music that you're going to come out with i also heard you have wine i have wine i have wine which yeah i know you have wine like you are the most successful i'm like i want to be here so you can give me advice. It's the hardest thing to do. I was just going to say I would have never imagined how challenging it is. Me either. I was like, everybody knows I drink wine.

I'm just going to sell wine and it'll be so easy. No. That's what I thought too. I'm like, I love it. I come from a big Italian family. Do you? Yeah. In another life, I'll be Italian. I'm like, I'm like, it's just been a big part of my life. I'm so, you know, interested in it. But it's been challenging. So do you have, what varietal says? Alan Rose. Cain's middle name's Alan. My middle name's Rose. Oh, cute.

And I did a Pinot Greece. I named it after Kingsley and my other daughter, Cody, my rosé. Cute. And, yeah, I did it out of a vineyard in Oregon, Willamette Valley. Amazing. I love wine from there. It's amazing. I love wine from there.

This past year, I kind of am going through some changes, different partners and stuff that we're still working out. But it's hard. It's a hard business. Licensing and, like, all the things. I'm like, why is this so hard. It's so hard. It's, well, plus, wine sales are down right now.

Yeah. So for us, we're like, well, alcohol across the board is down. So everyone's sitting on so much inventory and it's really frustrating. Totally. But we are lucky to have a platform for that and be able to, like, use that for marketing and sales and stuff. Yeah. We should collab on a wine thing.

We should totally do some wine together. Okay. I would love that. Well, once you, obviously we can do it. Give me a month. Yeah, I'll give you a month. I mean, we can still brainstorm and talk about it. Totally.

I think we totally should. I have a lot of insight on it, but I also want to try yours and hear your side of everything, too. Let's do in a month from now, like a little wine night. I'll bring some wine. You can try it. See if you like it. And then you need to give me like all the advice. Okay.

And then do you like saunas? Because I just got one and I want to have everybody over for a sauna. Do you have a sauna? I have a sauna. Infrared? Mm-hmm. Oh, me too. I just got it like the other day and it's like my nighttime ritual now.

Yes. I love it so much. I'm not supposed to get in it right now. so I'm excited to get in it. Oh, yeah, there's so many rules. So many. I can't even get in my hot tub. There's so many rules to pregnancy.

Like no sushi, no turkey, no hot tubs. Honestly, I kind of have broken the rules a little bit more as each child comes. Whatever you want. Is that really necessary? I put my hot tub down to like 90 degrees. I'm like, my body heat is warmer than that, right? I'm like, as long as it's not super hot. Just don't listen to the internet.

Just listen to your own body. Yeah, I agree. That's what you got to do. So we all look up. to you and your marriage and you know obviously we see the highlight real but what advice do you have for people who are wanting to get married or who are married like what is your secret with kane that you're like this is why we work i have two things i think okay so one thing is i tell him how i'm feeling no matter how much it might be difficult for him to hear or maybe he doesn't

want to hear. I am so open and honest with him and I don't wait. If he did something that day that I felt, you know, oh, I didn't really like the way you talked to me, like handled that or, you know, I tell him right then and there. So there's never like any resentment. I feel like a lot of people in relationships wait for things to build up. And there's no perfect relationship. Yeah. There's never going to be a time where someone doesn't, you know, get upset or someone said the wrong thing. I feel like I'm really good at being like, whoa, let me stop you there. Let's rephrase that. This is where I'm coming from.

And so we're just very on top of being, like, honest with each other. And is that actually how you deliver it? Because I usually am like, blah, and then after I'm like, whoops, I should have given myself a minute. But it sounds like you're able to be like, let's stop right there. And let's, this hurt my feelings. Let's talk about it. Are you guys able to, like, really do that in the moment?

I am really good at it. That's so nice. I will say that is like music, everything aside, my talent, I think is like, and maybe because I did so much therapy as a child after my parents divorced. There you go. But I'm like, I'm very good at keeping calm because I know that I'm not going to get the result that I want if I don't do anything other than that. And he's not going to want to listen to me as much. Something that I've really learned is, and I'll never forget somebody telling me this story, when they were younger, their dad yelled at them.

And he was probably 13 and just looked at his dad and he goes, I didn't hear anything you just said. So if you want to speak to me, like as a 13 year old boy, so if you want to speak to me in a different like tone, I will hear you. And I think the dad was like, holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's all about the approach. Yeah. You're always going to get in an argument. It's about how you handle it. Yeah. The delivery. And I feel like that is something in our marriage that we are really, really good at. Okay. That's amazing. And then other than that, I was going to say like keep it fun but like we don't really do anything like what's a fun date night for you guys i hate going out like don't take me to dinner if we put the kids down and we can find a really good movie yeah

like the other day we door dashed like ice cream at like nine o'clock at night that's my idea of keeping it fun i i feel like i used to love going out i'm the same way like door dash and a night in sounds so glorious to me yeah because you guys are so busy you're going on tour you have to be at events. You're always getting dressed up and having to go. So like a fun date night for you would be to just chill in. Totally. That's nice. I love staying in. Yeah. Do you guys play games? We did for a while. We love this game. Have you heard of sequence? Yeah, I love sequence. That is like my favorite game. And we were like on a sequence kick for a while. Yeah. This is something that I think about for if and when I have children. Okay. How hard is it to want to

keep them protected from the social media world because we all know one day that's just a part of life totally but like right now how do you are they old enough for you to be able to explain things no okay no and i put them on my socials i know some people don't show their kids faces on their socials but i'm like they're if i don't take the picture someone else outside world is going to take a picture so it's like i can't yeah and i'm going to homeschool my kids i'm very protective about them, even if we go out in public, we, I make sure I have like someone per kid. Yeah. You know, I take Kingsley to Target and the, you know, you're checking out.

It's like, is that Kingsley? That's a little weird to me. I can't imagine how weird that is. And then there's people that'll be like, can I take a picture of your kids. Oh. And they don't even like want me in Canaan. I'm like, oh, weirdo. What?

Do you say no? Absolutely. Absolutely. I feel like there's a limit. I'm very protective over that. I will share what I want to share, but I don't really want anybody else to share. You're their mother, so that's fair. Exactly.

But I mean, I'm not, it is what it is. That's the world we live in. And it's like, I can't hide them. Yeah. That's, no, you can't. It's impossible. That's what I'm like, I try and think of how I would navigate it because I think that would be so hard.

But like, if somebody asked me to take a picture of my children, I'd be like, get the out of here. Totally. There's some weird people. There is weird people out there. It freaks me out. Yeah. The internet is full of freaks.

too. Not all of you, but some of you. Is there anything special that you and Kane are doing for baby number three? Like do you go on a baby moon? Are you doing anything? Like, are you just like, no, are you just like, because I feel like the third. You're like, here we go again. Let's go. I know. Well, so I just had a baby shower yesterday, which was like a fun surprise, which I didn't have to plan anything. I had great friends and everybody that got together and planned it at my house, which was even a bonus because it was like I got to go to a party that I didn't have to plan. And it was in my backyard. And you probably didn't have to clean up either. Yeah. No, I didn't. Thank you, Poppy. That's awesome. And how fun because you're having a boy and you've had two girls. Do you feel

different? Pregnancy-wise, I feel the same. I'm very excited to have a boy. Yeah. I hope he looks like Kane. I just want to dress him in like backwards hats and like cute Jordans and all the fun clothes. Oh my gosh. That must be so fun because dressing girls is so fun. But then to think like, okay, now I get to do something different. Sometimes I do a segment on my podcast called Can you not? I bet there are so many things about being pregnant. Yeah. People ask you or say to you where you're like, can you not?

Yeah. This is your time. If people are listening, they will come up to you in public. Do you hate when people touch your belly? Do you hate when people are like, how? Oh, are you only that pregnant? Like, what is it that you're like? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I had, I don't mind if people touch my belly if I know them. Okay. We were at a show a couple weeks ago and some random woman came up robbing. And she's like, your belly. And I was like, I felt so violated. And I didn't think I would have felt like that. Because I'm a very open person.

I'm like, whatever. But it was weird. It was weird. So if I don't know, you don't touch my belly. Okay. Don't touch me, period, please. Okay. Fair.

You're going to respect the boundaries. Yeah, totally. I feel that. And what about when people are like, oh, you're on your third? Are we going to have a fourth too? No, everyone knows we're not going to have a four. Oh, okay. That was pretty public.

Kane made it, made everyone aware. I believe I think it was the Bobby Bone show that there will not be a fourth because we made sure of it after this one. Oh, okay, perfect. So, no, I think everyone kind of knows that answer. Got it. But I get nervous when people are like, are you ready for a boy? You know, little girls are so, like, sweet.

And I'm like, you guys are talking them up to be crazy. I'm a little nervous. I've heard it's the other way around. That's what I hear, too. You're like, boys always love your mom so much forever, too. I think it's how you raise them. You can get wild little girls. Yeah.

And you can get wild little boys. What are the personalities of your two girls? So Kingsley, our oldest, she's four, is super girly. She's very sensitive. She's so thoughtful. She's like a little mommy. Yeah. Like, I just love her so.

Yeah. She's just so, I don't, like, she'll come into my room and be like, Mommy, are you okay? If I, if I was like, oh, ow, she'll be like, Mommy, are you okay? That's sweetheart. And I'm like, please don't have any. anxiety like me when you grow up. No, firstborns are always, they've been like motherly instincts. She is. She's so thoughtful and sweet. And then Cody our second, she's too. And I think she's gonna like beat up our son. Like she's like, she's like a tomboy. She just started getting into dresses,

which is like we never expected her to like want to wear all the jewelry and dresses like Kingsley does. But now she's like trying to be girly, but she's so like rough a little bit. Middle child. She'll just plow middle child. I don't know how they know they're going to be the middle child. but they just do yes and she's so smart for her age it's kind of like crazy she's been talking for a while now no way and she walks around like she'll like walk with her hips like this and she's she's too and she'd be like no mommy and she'll like tell you what she wants and what she doesn't want and miss independent how exciting to see what baby number three will bring yeah hopefully he's chill calm and sweet well I feel like because it's your third and you're chill and calm about it I feel like he will be yeah

Yeah. And having two older sisters, I feel like they're going to put him in his place. 100%. He's going to be a sweetie bob. I know it. I know it. Okay. And then somebody wanted me to ask you. Uh-huh. They said, you were on the home at it, which is, I'm addicted. They want to know if your pantry still looks the same. No, because we knocked it down. Oh, what? Rebuilt that whole side of our house. So I'll have to do a post of our new pantry. It's a little messy right now, but it's even better now.

I have to show you guys. Yeah, you got to share a photo because a lot of people wanted to know what your pantry look like. I'm sure. Isn't that crazy? Well, you see like the home edit when they do what they do. Yeah. You're like, it's like so aesthetically pleasing that it's almost like addicting. Like, I love scrolling their stuff and be like, wow.

I like to look through their book. Same. Same. I've had them on the podcast a few times. I love them so much. Aren't they great? They're just incredible people. We had so much fun shooting that too.

Oh, I bet. It was right after Kingsley was born. So I was in my nesting period. Oh, perfect. So I was like, this is wonderful. But. How nice. No, it's not the same.

Not because I didn't keep it the same. The whole room isn't there. Okay. But you learn some lessons and you've rebuilt and recreated it. Okay, cool. Okay, you have to share it. So I'll share it on my Instagram. And last but not least.

a confession. Now this is also funny because when I went in to interview Kane, I always want to make sure people are prepared for a confession. And I was like, is he prepared? They're like, yep, he's got one. And when I went, I was like, I heard you've got a confession for me. He was like, nope. And I wait, oh, shoot, you don't?

And he goes, no. And I was like, oh, I heard you were prepared. He's like, no. I was like, shit. Wait, I wasn't prepared, Elena. Stop. Well, see, now, now I don't blame you guys. I'm just doing an embarrassing moment.

Oh, yeah, an embarrassing moment. Confession, like, something embarrassing, like. I would have thought on this because I'm like, hmm. Well, okay, I'll give you an example. Please. I recently had a nap. Uh-huh. And somebody was over.

Yeah. We were hanging out for the day, and we were watching golf and I had a nap. And when I woke up, he told me my butt leaked. What? Like, what a way to tell someone. He didn't have to tell someone. tell me that he could have been like oh cute you too did or just not say anything he told me my butt leaked what i would punch him in the face yeah i would i actually laughed really hard

because then he started calling me leaky and then i was like got the giggles wait helen i would cry it's hard to embarrass me though but i know you're you're easier to like just go with it i was kind of like well what can you do that happened i'm trying to think what has happened to me recently See, I honestly, I don't have a lot of embarrassing moments because I'm by myself all the time. Well, but what about like on stage or on a day? I was just going to say on stage, but I don't think like anyone would have known. But I have stuff that Kane has had. Kane just fell off stage three days ago.

He did? He just fell off his like huge light bar. It's amazing. He didn't break a leg or something. How did he, did he like? He's wrapped up right now. I feel it. Is he really?

Yeah, his elbow, his leg. How did he do it? Was he like trying some cool move or was it just like a trip? Yeah, he was dancing. It's like this light bar that comes from the ceiling and he's usually on a harness, but he wasn't on his harness here. Luckily it was like mid. It wasn't, I mean, it would have been really bad if it was up high.

But he was probably like eight feet off the ground. Oh, shit. And he tripped over the rope part and fell over it. But I'm trying to think, Caitlin. I don't know. It's okay if you don't. Yeah. It's okay.

I've shared one with the class so you don't have to. Thank you. Thanks for taking one for the team. I got you. Yeah. Some people don't. If I think of one, whenever you post this, I'll write my confession under it. Okay.

I'll be like, hey, you'll be like, I thought it one. I'll be like, voice note it to me. I'll add it to the podcast. Yeah, there you go home and ask Kane, be like, is something embarrassing happened to me? I know, I'm trying to think of my. Maybe you don't even know. Maybe you got leaky butt and he says and told you. Maybe I need him to tell me.

How what's wrong with me? It's so weird that it doesn't phase me. I should have been like, oh my God. Well, what are you going to do? Yeah. I mean, it is what it is, right? Well, I'm excited to see everything that's coming out, the music, what you do in like a business side, your new baby. Thank you.

And I'm excited to drink wine with you when it's all time. When the timing is right. Me too, girl. Yes. I love to make a new Gemini friend. I know. Thank you so much. I'm Caitlin Bristow.

I'll see you next Tuesday. See your next Tuesday. Thank you. Thank you.