Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Katie Maloney: Bravo Drama, Boys Named Tom, & Burning VPR Questions

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

Vanderpump Rules’ Katie Maloney joins Kaitlyn to unleash her thoughts on all of your burning questions. How does she feel about dating someone named Tom? What are her thoughts on what happe...ned on Winter House? What went down at BravoCon? She also talks about what communication (or lack thereof) has been had with Rachel since everything went down and why she thinks she should have come back on Season 11 of VPR. We get a sneak peek of what she is excited for this season and whether or not she believes Tom Sandoval has changed. And, of course, we've all been waiting for the ‘Something About Her’ sandwich shop with Ariana Madix to open, so she explains the delay in plans and reassures us that it is not a scam—it is coming! Just be patient, okay?  Click HERE if you’d like to donate to help with the Tennessee Tornado recovery. Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: PELOTON — Head to OnePeloton.com/deals for Peloton’s best offer of the season. All access membership separate. Terms apply. BOMBAS — Go to Bombas.com/vine and use code VINE for 20% off your first purchase JENNI KAYNE — Get 15% off your first order when you use code VINE at JenniKayne.com/home  PROGRESSIVE — Get a quote today at Progressive.com  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:39 So do you have any confessions? I didn't really prep you for that. Has anything embarrassing happened to lately? Or like something that you're like, that is one of the most mortifying things that's ever happened to me. Not ever, but like this week. You know what I mean? No.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I mean, it's... What the ones I know? Yeah. Yeah, just kind of. Usually it's just using indulging a person in, you know, activity. Go on. What? Just, you know, you know, when you're like, I just should not indulge in this conversation or this gentleman and his, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And then you did and then you learned why? Like, why you shouldn't have in the first place. I f-round and I found out. You f-try-to-found out. And it's not even that bad. I mean, that is how you find out by f-round. Well, yeah, but it's just like, I'm not someone that's just like, they would say, like silence is the best but it's like uh no i'm going to like respond to somebody but it's like
Starting point is 00:01:32 i don't know i'm being very cryptic i know this but i don't know i got to keep it's but why why are you being cryptic because you don't want to say names no it's not about that but it's just like i like i have to like give like so much information i've got time back story it's nuanced you know have we not decided that boys are dumb yeah well i keep saying over it's not new information No. But it's just, it constantly needs to be reconfirmed that men are not okay. They're not well. They're not okay.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Thoughts and prayers to the men out there in this terrible community. Yeah. The community of men. It's rough out there. Oh, God. Yeah, I know. So, are you on dating apps? No.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Right. The only time I ever did a dating app was when I was in Europe. And you found a really beautiful man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, of course. But once you find a beautiful man on a dating app that you really liked, don't you want to be like, oh, maybe I should do this more?
Starting point is 00:02:27 often no okay i feel like that was like there was a time in place for that and but because i feel like in l.a it's like i'm going to go on like hinge and sit at home on an app where i can i can find all that riffraff like out in the streets you know on the streets you can find that riffraff out the streets what are you laden my riffraff out in the streets but yeah like i don't know i just i feel like i don't need to find another outlet just to be like played with you got enough of that yeah Yeah. I get played with enough just like without having to go through another platform. What do you think that is?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Like I feel like a lot of single people out there feel the same way. Like I don't feel like it's just you. If I had the answer. Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice? Maybe I wouldn't. I don't know. And I don't mean to be like cynical about it, but it's just the truth.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It's kind of your vibe though. Is cynicism? Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's my baseline. Like it is. I actually want to know. On our way here, we were listening to some really good music.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yes. Where did your love for music come from? Like, where have you always been obsessed with music? For as long as I can, not for as long as I can remember, but like, yeah, it started like in high school, I just really, it's just one of those things like where I geek out on it. Like I started sharing playlist, burning CDs for friends and vice versa. And just like always have like really connected with other people through music.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah. And I just always like to find new music and I don't know like that love for like especially like indie music too where like it was like less I don't mean to be like music that people hadn't heard. But you know just something that wasn't like on the radio. Yeah. It was like it was being a little bit overplay where you're kind of hearing it other like everywhere. It's like so that kind of like the urge and the hunger to like hear something new all the time. Did you cringe when you got in my car and my number one station is hits one? just number one did listen because i i enjoy that stuff too but like i just like i don't know i was
Starting point is 00:04:29 kind of want to like find something new that's going to make me i like going to give me you introduced you introduced me today to something new and it gave me full body chills i felt something no my favorite was when you said it makes you taste color the music makes you taste color i said it because i said if you listen to somebody's baby and then you listen to every step you take back to back you'll taste color i don't know because like those songs like What about pretty boy? That's my favorite one. Okay, yeah, I, Pretty Boy by the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:04:58 That song will make you feel lonely. And maybe you want to slow dance in the rain. Oh, my God, yeah. Slow tongue make out. Yes, like out of the movies. Like straight up out of the movies. Yeah, and I'm someone that, like, heavily romanticizes, like, every situation in life in general.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Like, I, like, do you know what limerance is? No. Oh, it's so dangerous. What is it? Okay. Let's say you meet somebody. And all of a sudden, you are just like, daydreaming, you're fitting them into your life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You're, like, picturing, like, how your, you know, wedding's going to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going down that path, big time. Like, and, you know, just scenario after scenario with a person, like, that's limerence, essentially. Do you think? I don't know the exact definition, but I'm just kind of, like, explain to you, like, what the, uh, what that the definition is in, like, in real life. I actually definitely do that? But do you think that's why we get so easily disappointed in people?
Starting point is 00:05:51 No, that's exactly why you can, because you're, you romanticize it in your head of what you'd like it to be and when it doesn't turn out that way, you're like, you're like, I've already mapped out my whole life with you and now, how dare you be different than my vision? And you never even text me back and I don't even know you. That's why it's like really important to like manage expectations or just like not have them period with a person. And I mean, not though, not have expectations of somebody that you're interested in because you shouldn't because you don't know that person you really don't know like what their intentions are
Starting point is 00:06:24 you don't know what why they're even dating you don't know what you know you don't know what you know what to expect from them so not having expectations is actually really important how many people are you not having expectations with right now I don't even know at this point like like like I don't there's I got like just some pen pals and like things like pen pals yeah I know that's cute I like thinking of it like because like every person I mean like doesn't live in L.A. Yeah, you really, we were talking about this at lunch. Everyone that you find interesting doesn't live in L.A.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I know. What does that say? I feel like it's like the universe's cute way of saying like, hey, it ain't happening in L.A. GTFO. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I really do need to be in L.A. right now. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So like, that's not. Job-wise, you do need to be there, but. It's not really an option, but I just think, or it's the universe saying like, hey, the person that you're meant to be with or going to be with isn't going to be in L.A. So we're going to keep putting people in front of you to, like, prepare you for that or to put you to know, or you're just not supposed to be with anyone, period, right now. So maybe you're just meant to have 80 pen pals and not be with somebody right now just to figure out what you actually want.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Fun. And why is it a musician? Uh, yeah. I get it. Musicians and athletes, man. I get it. No athletes for me. Oh, just kidding.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I mean, not like the athletes. I mean, not because. But just like, they don't ever holler. Like, I put it out there to the world that I like athletes. Oh. And they don't holler. Hmm. What does that say about me?
Starting point is 00:07:59 I have a question. Would you ever date somebody named Tom? That's such a common name. So to like say no, I'm like really eliminating a lot of the population. Well, because we were talking about this earlier, but it's so funny. So some lady recognized Katie at lunch today. And she was like, oh, my God. I don't know how to do a Jersey accent, but she was geeking out over you.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And she was like, I don't even want to watch Winter House because of the... And I was like, wait, what's Winter House? I didn't know there was a winter house. I didn't know that Tom was on it. And he had a whole thing about not wanting to call this girl Katie. Or yeah, he had a problem just like having a thing with her, which was so bizarre. Do you ever feel a little bit sad for him? I guess I don't know his...
Starting point is 00:08:41 I don't know who he is as a person. Like, I know you. And I don't know him at all. And I didn't watch. So I don't like know what his character. or how who he is but like part of me just feels like a little bit sad for him like I think he stills a crush on you I don't know I mean like that's what like my friends seem to think that and other people seem to think that and like I don't know maybe we did spend years and years together so to
Starting point is 00:09:04 say like oh yeah he feels nothing right like right for sure you know what I mean but I mean do I feel sad for him I want I want him to be happy I want I want him to like date and to move on or you know just whether it's serious or casual whatever, you know, I do want that for him. And he seems to say over and over that he's not interested in that and he doesn't want that. And so if he really doesn't, then that's fine. But if I don't want it to be because of, like, me or anything like that or because of a name, it's so silly.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I don't know. But the thing is, is he never called me, Katie. Like, he, it was weird. And I never called him, Tom. Did you call him, Bob, too? Yeah. And he called you, Bob? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Do you still call each other, Bub? He does. Why is that cute me out? I know he does. And I'm like, and I, for a while, I told him, I'm like, you can't do that because it just felt like it was something too synonymous with our whole relationship that it's like but I think it's just too much of a habit for him to not like it's just it's like a reflex almost I mean I get that I do forget that like sometimes I'm like 12 years that is a long ass time to be
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Starting point is 00:10:54 It's airing right now. Yeah, no, I've watched. The thing is I've watched Winterhouse. I think it's, this is the third season, I think. So I have watched it. Yeah. And of course, like, I've wanted to watch this because, like, I'm curious. And I'm not affected by what he has going on.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's not like you're participating in your own, like, misery. You're like, no. No, no, no, no, of course not. And I wanted to, like, see. have other friends that are on a show obviously so like you know whatever and of course like if i'm as a funny thing i want to know like what specifically people are talking about so i can like at least have an informed in opinion about what it is he i knew about what was going on like in real time as well and i kind of i love to give tom i like we like to roast each other a little bit you know
Starting point is 00:11:38 and so i did give him a little shit about the name thing i was like oh i was like i know that katie i was like well i'm katie number one yeah because like you know There was just joke about like Tom number, Tom number one and Tom number two. I'm like, well, this is the mean that there's a Katie number one and a Katie number two now. And I joke about that. But like, I was never like how dare you or mad or had independent. And I think a lot of people think that like because of what happened last year with like the Raquel or Rachel, whatever it was with like him kissing another girl that I like have issues with him. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Of course. Because that's the only narrative they know. Yeah. Yeah. But I was just like, no, like, get it. I guess. You know, like, I don't, I don't know. It's just, I see you, I can see you rooting for him.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I am. Yeah, of course I'm rooting for him. I want him to find, you know, happiness. Yeah, that's nice. I'm happy for him. I don't, I don't, I'm, and I met her at BravoConn briefly, like, when we first got there. And she's, you know, beautiful and, like, she works on a yacht and, like, has, like, you know, like a. So she, does she work below deck?
Starting point is 00:12:39 She's on below deck, yeah. Got it. Okay. And so you met her. And tell me about BravoCon. That was people really wanted to know how BravoCon was. Oh my God, it was wild. It's like, it's such a wild experience because I think there's like 25,000 people that come to.
Starting point is 00:12:54 25,000? But yeah, it's a massive, massive weekend. So explain to people because even for people like me, what is BravoCon? It's a convention. So somewhere to like think of like Comic-Con, but for like the Bravo universe. So it's all Bravo people. Yeah, so there's 165 Bravo people from different, all the different shows. and they have like panels you know from each like show we'll have a panel of like all the you know cast
Starting point is 00:13:19 and then they'll like like group people from like different shows for panels to like have fun like games or like Q&As and things like that there's like a bizarre of people are selling like their merch and then there's just like fun like really interactive things to do so it's a I mean just like a massive like convention so for like all the fans to come and there's like fan photo ops that we did and And something about her did a thing with Laze where they like, oh, I saw that. Yeah. So we'd had like a little like pop up where they did a little chip bites inspired by like, you know, sandwiches. And it was so cute.
Starting point is 00:13:57 That's a good partnership. Yeah. Lays was amazing. Lays was one of the sponsors of the entire weekend. So it was like three days of just like craziness. Fandemonium. Fandemoneum. So we just got to like meet tons of people.
Starting point is 00:14:09 What is the Bravo like viewer? Like what is your? typical bravo viewer i'm constantly always surprised i mean i would say like a it's primarily female yeah you know from like 20 to 60 even like i mean it's like it's it spans you know across the board i'm always like really surprised too when i meet some people because they're like oh always when it's like a man because it like it'll be like a guy and he'll be like oh my wife got me into the show or my girlfriend got me to the show and like really that's interesting but i don't know that's i feel like they would be kind of similar to Bachelor viewers.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I think it sounds like it. I think there's a lot of crossover. Yeah. That sounds. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah. Somebody else wanted to know, has Katie or anyone from VPR group heard from Rachel at all? How do you feel about her podcast?
Starting point is 00:14:55 God. You know, I think it's kind of like why now? Right. I don't know. I mean, I haven't heard from her. I don't think anyone has. Really? No.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I think it's like, girl, why didn't she just come back on the show? So she didn't come back on the show? No. Oh, I didn't come back this season And I think, you know, it's like you want to tell your side. Like, I think you should have just come back this season. And I think it would have gone a lot probably differently than she imagined it would have. And I understand her reasons for probably not wanting to because it was like, you know, she was traumatic at like a facility taking care of her mental health or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And like, you know, do you got to do what you got to do to take care of yourself? Yeah. I respect anyone's decisions to do so. But I think if you wanted to have. have your side, whatever you want to call it, of the story, which I just don't think at this point, we've kind of heard it. Right. So I don't know what possibly, it just feels like it feels very much like.
Starting point is 00:15:52 How would she go rogue? Like, how is she going to go rogue? I think you've been rogue. It should be like recovery from going rogue. I mean, I was telling you last night, we were talking about it. Like, if you really want to look to somebody who turned around a pretty gnarly scandal, where you were hated by like the world or looked at in a really poor light
Starting point is 00:16:12 I mean look to like Monica Lewinsky you know like but I think I think she should have just come back to this season to you know have people you know hear her out whatever that would have looked like or been like because not everyone's gonna listen to your podcast and also like if it's gonna be like a sort of pandering thing
Starting point is 00:16:30 to like have her choice of people on to listen to what she has to say to like kind of spin any type of narrative like It's just, I don't know. I don't think it's a move. She should have all the people, like you said, who've made a comeback from, like, this gnarly scandal and media and all the stuff. Like, you should interview people about how they turned it around. And maybe she will.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I don't know. I don't know. That doesn't sound very rogue, though. That sounds pretty brilliant. I know. I just think it's sort of like too little too late maybe. And just also, like, I don't know. I just think if your plan, what it seemed to be from the beginning was.
Starting point is 00:17:06 like not come back to the show to stay out of the spotlight just to go live your quiet life she should have stuck to that but she's like going to the eye heart shit back on red carpet like just just kind of thrusting herself back into the mix of it all and it's like what yeah like I mean do whatever you want to do but it just is like it doesn't make a lot of sense yeah and like again you can do whatever you want but I just think like you should have just come back to the show did Tom come back to the show is everyone else back and then oh interesting you'll see this season i mean it wasn't probably the easiest smoothest ride for him but he did it he did it what um when does it start airing somebody's probably
Starting point is 00:17:45 in january i don't have a day yet but january they'll be announcing it very soon i think that's exactly i'm 100% tuning in now are you are oh yeah thanks oh yeah now i am like even somebody said thoughts on linds linds hub and johnny bananas hanging out who to f*** I don't really know about them hanging out. Like I saw that and I know Lindsay like mentioned it to me, but who is she? Is she from your show? Lindsay's on, she's on Summer House. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But she's one of my really, really good friends. I don't, I don't really think there's much to that story. I think they might just be like friends that grabbed a meal or something. Well, that grabbed a whole meal food. They're not like dating. Who's Johnny Banana's? That name sounds familiar to me. He was on like a, I think like one of those like empty.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah, that's what, yeah, yeah, like, I think it was like the challenge one of, I don't know, I can't keep, there's like so many MTV shows, but like, he was like on one of those shows. What do you think you're the most excited for for the season of Vanderpum? I'm excited for people to see me, you know, from the beginning of the show. I was like with Tom. It was always like, I was in a relationship and it was often bad and oftentimes really bad. And there was good times as well, but I think kind of seeing me for the first time like single and not like last year I was like, we're going through divorce and I was. still very much like attached to tom and it was like not so it was really hard season i was like
Starting point is 00:19:06 really emotional but this season it was just like very single i'm dating a lot um having fun so i'm excited for that and then also like you're going to see like a lot more of the process of sandwich shop yeah i want to know more about that so i know you don't have a specific opening date but in my brain i'm going how the hell are you doing this all with dancing with the stars now broadway opening a sandwich shop like that's got to be is the date keep getting pushed back or are you still on track for opening well i mean like we got it we got to still open so i know like orient has like been very busy but you know i'm still very much getting into like yeah keeping things on track but you know we've been that with a lot of red tape you know west hollywood is different than los angeles county
Starting point is 00:19:53 they west hollywood has like their own set of protocol and things that you have to like meet and there's just been a lot like and it was a lot of people like how hard is it to open like how long does it take it's just a sandwich up it doesn't matter what it is it doesn't matter what kind of it doesn't matter what the establishment is it doesn't matter if it was just if we were just selling licorice it doesn't matter like we have to we have to meet certain standards yeah that the health department requires us to meet we have to have a fire department come in and cross you know cross off those things like and the thing is sometimes like those things take time sometimes you can't just like call them up and they're like be there in five yeah yeah like sometimes
Starting point is 00:20:28 you're trying to plan time for like weeks yeah and then you have to like have those things fixed and sometimes it requires having a contractor come in and that takes time and like it's just it's not you think you think that if i had it my way you would be taking this long no but also like i remember when ariana aryan and i met with consultants they said just to prepare you like this isn't like open and shut in like six months like it can take up to like 24 to 36 months From the time, from the time you, like, conceptualize this whole idea, like, figure out, like, you start your business plan. And you want to be as, like, methodical and thought out and detail-oriented as possible. Like, because otherwise, you know, you could fail before you open.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And Ariana and I, we got the space, this lease before we were technically, like, ready to really even, like, get to that point. But the space was so prime that we couldn't let it go. So, like, I think people are seeing also the process of something that you don't normally. see you don't normally have this type of like that's true voyeur is stick sort of like view of of a business when something an idea is conceived to this point like normally you're just like you're here maybe a little bit and then it's open like you're not really seeing like the entire process like this so it's you know so it might seem that like it is taking a lot longer is you know like when you learn that someone's pregnant like from the moment they find out it seems
Starting point is 00:21:51 like they're pregnant for a really long time yeah rather than somebody telling some they're telling the world that they're pregnant like in like yeah yeah And then they're like, oh, my God, you already had your baby? Yeah. It's like, well, yeah, because you found out, like, a way later in the process. Yeah, that's so true. When you tell someone that you're, like, pregnant in the moment they literally find out, like, it might seem that. That actually makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:22:14 People just know that you've, like, had this idea. They've known from the moment you had the idea to now where it seems like it's forever when you're like. So technically, by what the consultants have said, like, we're pretty on track. We're on schedule for opening. It's just, like, things take a long time. time and like we don't give updates because the updates change and they're kind of like not boring but they're kind of like what's yeah well today's update is that we had the fire department like no right sorry like we'll let you know and like of course like we were hoping that we would open this
Starting point is 00:22:43 month but like because of certain boring update things that it's not happening so it's the holidays with the holidays everything everything drags when it's the holidays too so you know what it'll and i feel like it's cool to open in the new year yeah 24 It's a bunch of even numbers. It's funny because it's like, coming 2022, and then we had to cross it out. Comey, 2023. And I was like, eh. Well, okay, for real this time, though.
Starting point is 00:23:06 For real this time. You know what? It'll open when it's open, you guys. I promise it's coming. But now there's been like all these weird conspiracies that it's like, we're scamming people. It's a front just to sell merch. I'm like, that's a really expensive thing that we did. People love a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah, we'll take your tinfoil heads off. It ain't a conspiracy theory. It's so true. Somebody, and her name is not Caitlin, but Caitlin also wants to know is, would you ever move to Nashville? Oh. Is that Kristen? No, it's Britt. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I like coming here. Yeah. But again, like, I just, I don't know. I just, I don't know where I'll end up. I mean, that would be a very random move for you. Totally. I don't know. I'm from Utah and I've lived in L.A. for 17 years.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah. This is a very different part of like, I don't know. It would be, it would just be a total, like, lifestyle change. I think I'd be, like, in shock. You would have culture shock for sure. I love it here. It's so much fun to come and visit and I have, like, friends here. And so, like, I don't want to, like, I don't know, I like to be able to come and spend time.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It's a fun place to spend time, I think. That's how I feel about L.A. I love spending time there. I love going there, but I could never move there. Right. Yeah. Yeah, just it is what it is. Emma Riley wants to know how she can, how you can help her with healing after a long,
Starting point is 00:24:27 relationship after a long-term relationship. I think the best thing to do is like work on your relationship with yourself. I don't want to fall in love with yourself, but like the healing has to like really come from like your relationship with yourself because I think when people don't work on that and they kind of go through that like sense of like transference where you transfer like yeah, those all of those like things and patterns and habits from the previous relationship and don't unpack those things and like really work through them. Yeah, they just get carried over.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And learn from them, you carry it into the next one. And then you wonder why it's not working again. Yeah. Because I think you just have to like really kind of work on your relationship with yourself and find out like why that didn't work. And it's like taking accountability through those things. And like really just finding out like who you are, re-identifying with yourself. And then you'll go through like a different sort of like transformation there as well
Starting point is 00:25:18 and be like, wow, like I am totally a different person than I was a month ago. Yeah. And then two months and then three months. And then you're just like able to really. finally like move on in a way and like identify what you want and what you don't want so I think it just needs to be like sitting with yourself yeah it's deeper than just being like fall in love with yourself it's like deep it's it's feeling all the feeling yeah yeah the ones you don't want to and and the ones that you want to like push down from and push down yeah that's true I just saw
Starting point is 00:25:48 angelina jolly talking about this about how you have to like go through the hard times like not try and avoid or not try and like get around it or move to the next phase of your life like go through it and I was like oh that's a good point I'm probably like just paraphrasing a lot and just glossing over the the surface of it all but I think it's it is all just working on yourself do you think Tom Sandoval has worked on himself not in the slightest really do you think he's going to be forgiven from like the fans I don't know I maybe some will I don't know it's just hard because I think I'm just apologies are words I think when someone's really sorry you see that they're sorry you see it with behavior modification you see them changing like how they
Starting point is 00:26:36 operate and it's it's one thing to say you're sorry it's one thing to prove that you're sorry right so I'm not he hasn't worked on himself at all like he stopped drinking I'm like but what does it have to drink but what does it have to do with what you did and said like he He doesn't understand, like, why this is such a big deal. Like, he said, like, on some podcasts recently on Tamara and Teddy's podcast, he's like, yeah, I guess it was like a slow news day. He's like, like, because, like, literally everyone has cheated. Like, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:27:01 No, he didn't. Like, when you go back and say, like, well, so-and-so did it. So, like, I don't understand why, like, because I did it. It's like, when they're just as guilty, it's like, well, you know what? Like, there's a bunch of serial killers sitting in jail. But does that mean murder is not so bad? Like, that's really bad. And I don't mean to compare cheating to murder.
Starting point is 00:27:18 No. But the thing is, it's like, yeah, people are doing that, like, when they were, like, young and when you're young, you're not supposed to, like, be making those same stupid mistakes and choices when you're in your 40s. Like, you're, like, hopefully we've learned how wrong those things are and how shitty that kind of behavior is by the time when you're 40s. And how many people affected? It's not just you. You know, like, so if you think it's not a big deal, you hurt a lot of people. So, you just the fact that you still, like, don't get it to me is, like, why I'm like, you are, you are.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You got some soul searching to do, pal. That is, yes, he sure does. What era would you say you're in right now? Oh. I love that question. And I'm like, damn, what era am I in? You can think about it. What's that song?
Starting point is 00:28:00 I love myself and I don't need nobody else. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I would like some, I love myself and anyone else. However, it would be nice at times. It's a hold a hand. However, you are not mad at a partnership era. Yeah, that would be nice.
Starting point is 00:28:16 With the right person who's consistent. who matches your vision on your vision board in your head who checks some boxes doesn't need to check all of the most important ones they're non-negotiables and then some what are your non-negotiables my non-negotiables would be someone who is getting consistent someone who's loyal somebody like reciprocity is like a very what is that somebody who reciprocates oh yes that's a good word god you use good words things yeah you do i like somebody who's you know honest that's a big one clearly loyalty. I want somebody who's, I'm like on the spot now. What have I said? Consistency, reciprocity, honesty, loyalty. Those are, you know, two and the same. You want a good person.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Just like to the core, just like good. Yeah. Would you date another Bravo person? Probably not. No. I. I. What? No. No. No, I just don't know. I want like somebody, like, I think somebody who like can get me on the like similar level, but not the exact same level. I think that would be kind of a nightmare. It could be. If you started dating someone, would you introduce them on the show? Like, would you have them on the show? See, that's the thing is that I never imagined me ever being single again. So I never had to think about like, oh, my God, dating and doing reality TV.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Like, that's crazy. It's funny because I was watching the Kardashians. And I was like relating so much to them. So no, whatever. But they're talking about dating. They're talking about dating. And like, the fact that, like, it comes, like, eventually it has to come up. But like, when you're trying to, like,
Starting point is 00:29:48 just get to know somebody and get to like a real place and figure out like if you even like like the person right but then you're also like okay well I do this thing as my job where I put like my life on a show and part like and yeah dating somebody that is a big part of my life and I don't want to have to like keep that so hidden and away from things because like then you feel like you're hiding parts of your life but it's also like but I just want to like keep this a little bit protected until I know it's a thing and I totally get that and I also don't want to put someone in that position. if they're not completely comfortable with it and i also want i just want to and you're probably i get the protective thing because you also like what if they're entering a world where like people don't like them and then they only see this one side of them and then they get hate on online and you've like brought them into that world yeah no i know it's like you want to keep it a little sacred for yourself and for them well a little secret until i just know that like are is this going to be something real do i like you is this a thing you know before i go okay well how do you feel about filming on a television show
Starting point is 00:30:49 if that's a non-negotiable to them then you probably shouldn't bug me you know why would you even come around me knowing that like I've been on a television show sharing my life for 10 plus years like if that's not your cup of tea then I'm probably not for you
Starting point is 00:31:05 a lot of people are asking how we met which I'm like podcast yeah this podcast and then that's it sometimes that's just how people in our world meet podcast and then nails Podcasts and nails. Because when I did your podcast, honestly, I was like, oh, are those?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Well, I think I was like, did you say something about my nails? And then I said something about your nails. Yes. And then mine were pressons. Yeah. And you're like, oh, quickies. I'm like, I know those. And then you did a collab with them.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. Somebody wants to know if you lurk in places like Reddit. Totally. You do? Yeah. Oh, Katie. I mean, let's not call it lurk. I don't lurk.
Starting point is 00:31:41 But you check it out? I often get links to that shit. So I'll go like, look. But then if I don't spend too much time. But there's stuff I don't like to see it. I'll, like, leave. The minute that it's like, it becomes off-putting. But, like, no, like, sometimes it's fun just to, like, kind of, like, go and, like, look.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But lurking is not really the, I don't like to use the word lurk, because it makes it look like I'm like, ooh. Lirk is funny. Lurk in places like Reddit. But no, there's, you know what, there's, that's how, like, we've found out some of the, the racial and Tom shit was on there. I mean, they're good. Reddit people can figure out anything. Yeah, but no. There's so much on.
Starting point is 00:32:17 there that you can't even like see it all but like i like there's always like links that i get sent from stuff they're like ha ha this is funny and i'll go look and i'm like great what is the craziest like conspiracy or thing you've seen on reddit that's like that our sandwich shop is like a front somebody wants to know what your perfect sandwiches oh depends on like what i'm in the mood for okay yeah i get that i'm because i always love like a great like simple sentence like i was telling you like those those like baguette ones yeah you can get in paris that just have like the ham and I'm a sucker for just like a simple Italian with a soap risada and like a like a mixed green with like a maybe it's like a top and odd spread. It's just watered and like like a like a rustic kind of some kind of crunchy roll or something.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah. But then I'm also like a sucker for like a really solid deli style with like maybe like a turkey and some sprouts and a really great like mustard and nice. cheese like what kind of cheese would have like a gure gory gray what have how the fuck is that i don't know gray gray gray gray gray gray i don't even know what that thing is it was just like fresh and there's a little bit of crunch that sounds yummy that's sweet i kind of want a sandwich now your lunch is not satisfying it really wasn't a lot of people think we're dating this is hilarious we are everyone welcome this is the hard lunch this is our hard launch is our hard launch was on Instagram last night. That's right. I did want to say for that was so scary last night the tornadoes and I'm like so sad of
Starting point is 00:33:54 this is like three times now in the last seven years that I've lived here that it has done like destructive damage to the city. It's so sad. It is so sad. So for anybody that was affected by the tornado. My gosh. Crazy. I mean first of all, I've never experienced any type of like tornado tornado weather. So like wow. Yeah. That's not. I mean like we have like. earthquakes in California which are really scary because they come out of nowhere like you are just yeah you are like what the hell's happening and we because we don't have like warnings for them so to have that kind of like anxiety of just like it's coming and you're watching and you're like take shelter put on your helmet now but the helmet thing I was like I'm like I kind of I don't know if I wish that we had those I'm kind of glad that we don't but also not having any kind of preparedness is like
Starting point is 00:34:40 a little I know and in a new house where I'm like there's a lot of glass windows so like we You didn't hear the sirens or anything at your house where we were, but when I went to the bathroom at Jeff Ruby. Jeff Ruby's, I was like literally on the toilet and I was wearing tights. And you know when you're wearing tights, like that's not a quick job. I was wearing the most complicated outfit you could possibly be wearing like a belt with tights, like the lights that go flash and then the siren goes off. And then they're hearing the voice comes on. It's like, I don't know what they say. It was like emergency.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Emergency, please. Evacuate. Evacuate immediately. And I'm sitting there being like, um, no can do. I'm going to need a minute. Inching the tights back up one by one. I'm just like, uh, here we go. But I could hear the girls going out.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They're like, um, is this for real? And no, I just sat and drink my espresso martini. Of course. And then I go out and there's like ladies, of course, waiting to use the restroom because I was in there for nine hours. And then I go into the restaurant and like everyone's just like business as usual. I mean, you can see the light's flashing, but you couldn't hear the alarm the same, I guess. But I was like, all right, well, I know, it's so scary.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I guess we'll just say, you're like, I know, because I'm like, we were all okay, but there are people that weren't okay. So maybe we could do like in the show notes could do like a website for people to donate for. Oh, yeah. To help put the community back together. It really did some damage. It's freaking scary. Went like north of here, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It was like just past here. Yeah. Well, whatever that video. that you pulled up. That was bananas. It looked Johnny bananas. It's catastrophic. It's really scary.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. Yeah. It was terrible. But the weather is okay. We're back to, well, not everybody gets to go back to normal life, but we get to go back to Sunday, Fonday. And we're going to go listen to some live music now. And we're going Christmas bar hopping. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah. I'm really, like, I got in the holiday spirit last night at that bar, the pop-up bar we went to. It was a Christmas story. up bar, Ralphie's bar, and of course they had the leg lamp and we did jello shots. We did these jello shots. We just freaking jello shots. That was hilarious. Okay, well, for anybody who is in Nashville, go to pop up Christmas bars because they're so cute and so fun and tell everyone where they can go follow your sandwich journey and everything else. Okay, we can follow something about her, add something about her and you probably just follow me. Yeah. Because I'll be updating
Starting point is 00:37:10 eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later because I think I have some info waiting for me somewhere, but just at Music Kills Kate. Music kills Kate. I like it. Okay, thank you. Let's go have some Christmas Godfills. Okay. I'm Caitlin Bristow.
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Starting point is 00:38:16 Vee, do you think we give too much advice on this podcast? Girl, this is a podcast. The advice does hit way harder when you cuss with it. Yeah, and we do plenty of that. This show, it ain't for kids. Definitely not for the kids, but we do talk a lot about family. I mean, it comes with the territory and with a show called Baby Mama's No Drama. I just wonder if people get the gist of the ad we just did.
Starting point is 00:38:39 You mean, like, the massive billboard in Times Square, that one? Well, yeah, that one, but also this one, right? I guess I should introduce myself. I'm Kail Lowry. And I'm V. Rivera. And we're the host of Baby Mama's No Drama Podcast. The Webby Award-winning Baby Mama's No Drama Podcast. Two Baby Mamas chatting it up about life, bedroom talk, family, and whatever drama we are trying to get out of the way.
Starting point is 00:39:03 All while being just a little bit explicit. A lot explicit. So listen to us, the Baby Mamas No Drama Podcast. wherever you get your podcasts.

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