Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Kelley Flanagan: Setting the record straight

Episode Date: March 16, 2021

In her first ever podcast interview, Kelley reveals what really went down with Pilot Pete and sets the record straight on where they're at today. Kaitlyn asks all the burning questions she knows her Vinos want to know, including what happened that first night they met (pre-Bachelor), if there was any crossover between her and Madison, and how she feels about him today.  You can find Kelley on IG at @kelleyflanagan  STRAIGHT TALK - Get the $45 Unlimited talk, text, and data plan with no contract on America's best netwroks for up tot 505% less. TALKSPACE - Get $100 off you first month on Talkspace. To match with your perfect therapist, go to talkspace.com or download the app. Make sure to use code VINE.  GEICO - Go to geico.com and in 15 mins you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance.  FITISH - Go to fitish.com and use the code VINE15 for 15% off your order.  BEST FIENDS - Download the 5-star rated must-play game Best Fiends on the Apple App Store or Google Play. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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welcome to off the vine i'm your host kately bristow i have been waiting for this podcast for a while and i know you have two so finally i get to ask kelly flanagan all the burning questions kelly was obviously on peter's season of the bachelor and their entire encounter was unlike any other because she had randomly bumped into Peter in a hotel lobby before the show had even started filming. She talks a lot about that, what that conversation looked like, their relation threw out, and then what happened after. So with this unusual serendipitous backstory, we all thought they would end up together on the show, but they clearly didn't. So in addition to having her on her first podcast ever to share what she's been up to, she is also going to set the record straight about her and Peter. She's an open book.

I love knowing the truth behind the rumors. So get that glass of Avino and let's get into the juicy deets. And I hope you enjoy my combo with Kelly. Hi. Hello. Oh, my gosh. You look so beautiful. Thanks.

I wish we could do this in person so badly because that would be awesome. It's been so long. And I also heard that this is your first. I mean, you kind of did a podcast with me. you, like, jumped in, but this is your first podcast. I am taking your podcast virginity right now. I'm terrified. I wanted to know, was there a reason you haven't done other podcasts?

To be honest, I just, I think it was just a little bit nerve-wracking and just didn't really do it. Like, I've been asked by a bunch of different people, and there was times where ABC were shutting them down. But then when it came to it as well, you know, they wanted me to do a couple of theirs. and I was like, I don't know about that one. I don't know. I've just been nervous. I've just been nervous. Like, I don't know what to do.

I don't know what to say. It makes sense, though, because I feel like when you have the experience, like you go on the show, your life becomes this whirlwind, everything turns upside down. You don't know what people are going to ask. You don't know how they're going to spin it. You don't know what media is going to pick up. And it's, it's like so vulnerable in a way that you can't control. And I feel like that's probably where the fear comes.

from and that's i like i even get scared to do people's podcast other times this one lady one time she interviewed me and she asked me so many great questions and she was lovely but she like went to or media picked up this one thing that i said i'm like really that's what you're going with from the pod but i mean media's going to do whatever they're going to do and i think you are no stranger to that and uh we're here to clear up rumors because how nice is it to have your own voice and not have magazines say shit for you to be completely honest that's been like the biggest thing that i struggle with is because like reading these articles it's it's it's a struggle and i don't think a lot of people and like bachelor nation even understand that like you know i was working in nine to five

at my family's law firm and just being like an average girl and doing whatever i want and then you get like thrown into this world where people know you and people care what you're doing and you're getting judged every single thing and it's like it's hard it's definitely hard yeah oh my gosh it's hard for anyone even if you have like the thickest skin even if you are doing everything right even if it's you're you're in a positive light it's still hard it's still super overwhelming um so let's let's freaking set the record straight let's hear it from the horse's mouth let's have let's share your story let's dive into it because obviously it's the elephant in the room it's peter like we're all wondering what the hell because we read articles

obviously we can't believe everything so how has your relationship with peter truly played out from the time you got together to the time you guys broke up because the rumor mill is overflowing left right and center yeah it is a complicated one to be completely honest like again kately i don't i wasn't the biggest advocate for the show to start off with and i'll be honest with that and i think i was pretty vocal with it and i just kept saying and truly i know this sounds a little cheesy but i was like there will be a sign. And I'm like, I don't know, but I just kept like literally praying at night. And I was just like, give me some kind of sign that I'm supposed to do the show. And then I went to one of my best friend's wedding in California. And she got married pretty fast. So it was like a six month span of engagement getting married. And she was like, hey, just show up. And I was in her bridal party. Go to an after party. And there happens to be Peter. And I remember like looking at him. And I was like, who's that guy over there? I was like, just kind of hot. And I didn't like recognize it was him at first. And then I was like, oh my God.

I think I know who that is. And I just went through the final rounds of casting. And I was like, this is weird. What do I do? So long story short, I was actually one of his best friends came and started hitting on me. And he was like, hey, we're going to an after party. Like do you girls want to go? You're not from here. And we're like, oh, sure, whatever. And gave his best friend my number. And then long story short, I see him come around the corner and I like immediately just went over there and I was like, hey, I got to tell you something. I was like, I just went through the final rounds of casting. I might be on the show. I was like, I know that you're not allowed to share with me.

It hasn't been announced if you are the lead or not. But I'm just letting you know, I think it's you because there's a lot of rumors going out. And I was like, and just to let you know, I might be there. And I was like, you know, him and I sat down for a couple of hours and we started talking about it. like how was your experience? Was it good? And he was like, best experience of my life. And I was like, all right, you know, he's vouching for it pretty hard. So we just started chit-chatting and like got to know each other. Um, nothing crazy. Like his friends were around. My friends were around. And we were chatting. Like his friends would interrupt. My friends would interrupt. I don't know why. Like people

were doing yoga around us. People were dancing. We started dancing. And this was an hotel lobby. This wasn't like a dance floor. So it didn't really add out. It doesn't make sense. But I remember at the end of the night, it was essentially like, hey, nice to meet you, hopefully see you soon type of thing. And I was like, wild. Nice to meet you as well. And yeah, you know, it was. So you guys didn't hook up that night? No. Oh, okay. I would have guessed, but that's crazy because you asked for a sign. You're like, I just want to sign. The freaking bachelor comes and sits in front of you saying that it was a good experience for him and that it might be him and you're like he's cute i'm cute i'm going on like that's so wild that you asked for a sign and that that's what happened no i know and i know his

buddy had my number so i was like he's got my name i was like this guy's probably going to do his research but he couldn't because i was private on instagram at the time so okay um couldn't even really do much with it if he had my name and i was like all right well that's that and i remember being like super giddy in the hotel room with my girlfriend after and i was like what is happening to me i was like what is going on but yeah it was and and essentially that was that but i was i was terrified because after i was like oh my god what it like is production going to want me are they not going want me is this a good sign is it a bad sign like i don't know right but yeah and that's essentially how it started there and then what like on the show i know that it was very clear to

people that were watching that you weren't going to play the game. And that's kind of what I think a lot of people have to do when they go on the show is play the game. And you were just like, but this is, it was just more real for you. You're like, I'm going to, you know, this is how I'm feeling. And do you think that got you sent home was, do you think it was really Peter's decision to send you home? You can't really say. I just didn't get much time with him on the show. And like, you need to be in good graces and kind of like work with them to an extent which i did you know i got along with all of the producers i got along with everyone on the show but you could tell i was very outside my comfort zone and um i didn't see him for a good three weeks

literally like not once um on the show while on the show correct okay so and i think that was essentially kind of played out to an effect of kelly's trying not to put time in effort in here and doesn't give a shit. Yeah. But that wasn't necessarily the case that I felt on my end. I just couldn't really get to the position where I need to be to get that time. Yeah, of course. I mean, it's I, some people can only speak from experience, which I can. And it's sometimes feels impossible. And like, it's kind of not up to you how much time you get. Otherwise, you would have got that time, right? I know that for a fact.

You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. So after, let's talk timeline from after the show to when you guys got together to what was happening because I had Madison on my podcast. I had Hannah Ann on my podcast. Now I have you on my podcast. And there was like this weird timeline where people were calling him out, but then he had reasons. And I feel like there's not like a clear timeline of what the heck was happening. And when did you guys start hanging out? And I don't know.

I don't even know. Like I have so many questions. When did you start hanging out first of all? And was there a crossover? Because I want it to come from you because obviously Madison said something. And I want to hear your side of the story. To be honest, if there was a crossover, I don't know about that. And that's not something I could necessarily answer.

But, you know, I did run into him at Super Bowl, which was, again, crazy. because I'm from Miami. So I was going out with all of my friends that I grew up with. There's a nightclub there called Live. And then there's a little section within Live that like all the locals go to. So I'm sitting there, parting with my friends. Actually ran into Tyler Cameron. And he's standing right next to me talking to Tyler for a bit.

I was like, hey, yeah, like on the show, whatever from Miami. And just talking to him. And then one of my girlfriends bumps me. And she's like, you've got to look that way. And I like, look down. and I see Peter and I was like oh man I was like what is happening and you haven't seen him or talk to him since the show uh no so there was there was I think I think after the fact I like DM'd him Merry Christmas or something but that was it wasn't anything like outrageous was just like hey Merry Christmas hope about all as well and that was about it I think it was Christmas maybe Thanksgiving I don't remember but yeah but it wasn't anything it was just like hey have respect to you for you, sending out my Christmas text to literally everyone that I do just went through this really great experience with you. Merry Christmas. And then so Super Bowl, yeah, see him. And then

Tyler runs down to say hi. And then I was like, oh, man, I am in a, I'm in a very crowded place right now. And I do not know what to do because this show is airing. And so I went down there and I was like, hey, how are you? And he was like, great, how are you? And I think the first question he asked me was like did you even like me and i was like and i was like yeah no i did and that was about all the time that we essentially got to talk because i was i was so in my head and like nervous as could be yeah of course because you had thousands of people around watching you don't know who recognizes you who doesn't and then you're sitting there while the show's airing so it's like all right and i think he may have just watched the episode of him and my one-on-one and it just was very it was portrayed at

is me not giving you guys keep running into each other this is so wild like you keep ending up in the same place together and being like like it's just such a crazy story that one was weird that one a hundred percent is weird but then like after the show after the fact it like makes more sense i'm hanging out with bachelor nation people you're hanging out with bachelor nation people you know how it goes like all of you guys kind of rally together and you get together so katie agro i don't know do you know katie agro from colton season long story she's another miami girlfriend with my brothers and um i was out in l.A for after the final rose and she essentially was like hey we're we're going out like come out with us and i guess her roommate is christian haggerty so

christian and katie lived together um we're all going out together they were planning to meet up with dylan i guess dylan was with peter so then that's like how it essentially started and started talking and what actually happened on the show and what was actually going on and Yeah. It was it was very skewed in a lot of different like both of our minds to be like, oh, that's how you thought, oh, that's, you know. Isn't it wild to like sit down and actually talk about how you felt compared to what, you know, it looked like on TV? And just to like back up for one second, why were you at after the final rose? I wish that I had that answer. I wish I had that answer. I don't necessarily

know it. You get a phone call and say, hey, we want you after the final rose. I think, there was a lot of I think there's a lot of rumors going around that I was like pregnant with Peter's baby and since the yeah like people would not stop saying that I was pregnant like they all thought I hooked up with him in the hotel and I was like guys I would be like eight months pregnant by now that doesn't logistically make sense yeah I was like what is happening but no so I I think that they just wanted all the rumors to kind of swirl because no one really knew how the ending was going to end that's kind of what I was told I genuinely don't know if it was because I wasn't invited to woman tell all yeah I don't know the reason but

they called me and they said do you want to go and I was like why not so I and I went you know yeah did Peter know you were in the audience um yes he did because I think Chris Harrison said something to him on stage um they like pointed to me and I I gave a little wave um but that was about it so then okay so then he gets engaged I don't actually even so he got engaged but then broke it off and then got together with the runner up and then that ended now you guys are in a situation where you keep running into each other you would think it's all these signs slapping you in the face being like you two are meant to be like these things keep happening you keep running into each other you have feelings it ended weirdly

and he's now single and so that's when quarantine kind of started happening right so you guys probably had to all of a sudden get pretty serious because because everyone had to be kind of stuck with whoever they were with. And you start dating. And was it hard for you to move past that he had sent you home and that he was, had been with two other girls and then was like, or was it kind of like, yeah,

you kind of have to figure that out for your own. And here we are. Let's make the best of it. I mean, you want to believe what you want to believe, you know? And so there was a little bit of that in me. But at the same time,

like, it's very hard to like genuinely get to know someone when you're on the show. You know, you don't spend that many hours with them. And then truly, it's just like, you can't 100% be yourself. Like, you're going to be your best self, you know, when you're on the show. You're mic'd up 24-7. They're listening to you. Like, you can't sit here and say, you know, you're a massive part of here and you want to go out.

And no one's going to go on and say that. Like, not one person is going to go on and be like, hey, listen to actually how I live my life. Like, no one's going to say that. So it's like everyone presents them their best self. and you don't really get to know someone until after the fact. And I knew that because there were so many times when I was on the show where I was like, oh, man, like, you know, that could be skewed in this way, that could be skewed in that way. And it's almost terrifying to an extent and you just kind of sit there and you hold back on things.

Like I have a very sarcastic dry humor sometimes, but I knew it wouldn't translate well. And it's like, it's hard not to get in your head and essentially like, do the things that you usually would do in person and like when you're being yourself so it it would be harder it's like it was an actual relationship where he genuinely got to know these people but it was almost easier being like okay you've spent probably 40 hours with these people like that's so true i spent a weekend someone else that's so true and then now you say like you you know people put their best foot forward you're presented in this light especially leads they are put on a pedestal. You're meant to think they are just, you know, the best thing that's

ever happened to anyone. Now you're dating Peter in real life. And are you seeing him in a different light? And what did that relationship look like during that time? Yeah, 100% very different. Good and bad. You know, we all have our flaws. We all have our pros. But there was a lot of things where like you almost on the show, you like learn to like glorify someone. And you're constantly thinking of like this one person and how great they are. and like everyone's telling you they're amazing and all of this stuff and you put that in your head and then i think it's hard to like transition back into real life to being like okay let's actually like dig deep and see who you are and i don't think that it was ever an issue that peter

and i didn't get along like we got along great we had so many fun times together we had a lot of fun together um but you know sometimes that's not necessarily enough yeah and you don't have to answer this, but when you said just a few seconds ago, you know, you learn who somebody really is, and they party and they, is that somebody that you have experienced? Is that something you experienced? Because that is shitty. That is really shitty to fall in love with somebody. They are this glorified person. You do get along with them. You do have fun with them. But at the end of the day, if you're looking for a relationship, those things are qualities that you would probably get concerned about in a future partner. Yeah. And I'm not sitting here insinuating

anyone's like that. I'm just essentially saying like that that's the biggest misconception coming off the show when when you do get to even even the girls, you know, like you don't know them. I'm not just saying sitting here saying like, oh, that was me and Peter's issue. I'm just saying like that's not something everyone would put themselves forward and say, hey, this is who I am. That's just the biggest picture that I could like give people to be like, yeah, no one would ever say that. Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Yeah, so what was the issue for you guys? Why did you essentially break it off and how come it didn't work?

If I could put it in the best way, I think like on my end, there was just a lot of like non-negotiables in the relationship that they essentially were seeing worked on or saying that they were going to be worked on or changed. And actions kind of speak louder than words. And it takes a long time to figure that out. You know, if there was something that I saw as like disrespectful in a relationship, I would speak on it and I was pretty vocal. I think communication is huge in a relationship.

And there was things that essentially I would be like, hey, look, this does, this makes me feel like shit. Like this makes me feel this way. Like I would always try to talk about my feelings to be like, this is how I'm feeling and like this is how I perceive this. If I'm out of line, tell me I'm out of line. but I don't necessarily like my needs aren't necessarily being met when all of this continues and it was something that it took me a while to sit there and kind of figure out that um that they

weren't really changing and there's like a point in time where you just kind of have to accept that you know and it sucks but well that's hard to accept of course and it's I mean I know you and we've talked and I just did he hurt did he hurt you in weird ways in weird ways like everyone gets hurt in relationships you know and it's it's just essentially something that you're like shit like I feel like crap but no I wouldn't say there was like something massive that I was like oh shit like screw you blah blah blah like but no within the relationship like it was it was fun it was it was great but yeah there was a lot of little things that I was like dude I this doesn't make me feel right. Like, this doesn't make me good. Yeah. And, and if somebody isn't paying attention to

that, obviously, that's not going to work out in the long run. And then I think everybody was starting to wonder what was going on and rumors were starting. And then Peter just dropped it on Instagram, the bomb of like, we're not together anymore. And did you see that coming or were you aware that he was going to post that on Instagram? Your split? Or were you like, oh, damn? Yeah, I was aware of it. And, you know, we were definitely struggling and having, like, hard times during that time. And there was a lot of pushback from both ends. And I essentially asked him if, you know, I could have a couple of days to, like, process it myself. And before we let the entire world know.

And I, like, wanted to tell my family and tell my friends and, like, just, like, be able to process it within myself before I have it on blast within everyone. And that necessarily was. wasn't granted. I think there was like some kind of mental thing going on essentially saying like I have to do this in 2020. And I was like, hey, look, if you really have to do this on New Year's night, like I would love to go out with my friends and I would love to go out with my family and like not be looked at weird and not be like judged. If you feel it's necessary to do it on New Year's night, like go ahead. But you know what? I'm going to take a couple days for myself and post it when I feel comfortable. So that's on your page. Like, you do whatever you want, but I'll post it when I feel

comfortable. Right. So he wanted to leave that in 2020. You're like, well, two days isn't going to make a difference, but okay. And now obviously, I got to ask about Barb, because everyone's going to want to know. But she always said that you were her favorite when she watched the show. And I know that like so many people have this vision of her perception. And obviously, people wanted to know, if that was part of the breakup or if you still chat with her at all. We don't chat. I think no contact from either end is, you know, we got along and, yeah, we don't chat. That's right.

And how accurate has the, have the, is it, first of all, I don't even know if it's US or us weekly. But anyways, do you think someone is really feeding them to make one side of the story look a certain way? because whenever they say sources say or a source close, a friend, whatever, you're like, who are these people, are you making that up? Is it really a source? Is it like, who is spinning the side? But when you read it, are you like, someone's feeding them information to make it look better for them? Yeah. And I think this is like something that I've definitely struggled with. Like, again, Caitlin, I think it's very hard for us to come off the show and like have people so invested in our lives. And like, I'm grateful for it. You know, if there's one girl,

this world that like looks up to me and I could be a role model too like I love that I love that like I'll keep striving to be a better person and guess what I'm human I'm gonna mess up I know that I'm gonna screw up in several different ways but there's like one person that I can motivate to be better like it makes me feel great but also it comes with a lot of pressure it comes with a lot of anxiety that I've never dealt with in my entire life before the show and actually the bar exam was that's I think where like the first time I truly felt anxiety and then after that I was the show and and it's something that I'm like man like where is this coming from like I had no idea what people go through I have no idea of this feeling like it's a weird feeling but it's also

hard because in terms of Peter like yeah we broke up and there was maybe like a week that um there was just not talking and then he essentially tried to like get back together and was trying to work on things and I was pretty pretty hesitant towards all of it a lot of like what was going on it was weird because you saw like a lot of people did we we definitely saw each other in Tampa and we definitely saw each other up until like right after valentine's day and then it's just hard because it was like reading a bunch of articles and know a lot of them from like us weekly and I'm sitting there like okay either you know he's telling me like I love you I want to get back together with you and then I'm reading like us weekly being like oh no

they're just very supportive of each other they're working on themselves they're not focused on a relationship and that's that and i was like okay is he lying to me or just like really not want me to be with peter like i don't understand and and it does a toll on you because like you don't know to believe these articles you don't know if they're true you don't know if like someone's making them up like it definitely messes with your head it definitely messes your relationship and it's like something screwed with me because i didn't know if i was getting the truth i didn't like i had someone in front of me telling me one thing and I'm reading an article saying the other thing and I'm like dude what is happening like what is going on and right that's just like what comes with all of this but it definitely

messes with your head do you guys still talk now did you get answers or is this relationship done like dinner burnt to a crisp and in the organics bin we did up until like after valentine's day And then, yeah, I don't speak to him. I don't think I will be in communication with him, you know, move on. It's my past is my past, focusing on my future, wish him. But I don't think it was the healthiest thing for me to keep your past and your future. And I wish him well. But, yeah, no, we don't communicate.

Was there something that solidified that? Was it just like a reoccurring thing that just reiterated things to you? Like, oh my gosh, these are all the problems that just keep coming up. And so let's be done. I think it was to both. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

To be completely honest, like, yeah, just like seeing how he's acting after the fact and all that stuff, it was just like it sucked. And it just kind of reassured me that I don't want to be with someone with, if that's who you truly are. I just, I don't want to be with that. And do you think he feels bad or do you think he's like, oh, my gosh, I blew this or is he is, well, I guess you don't know because you don't talk. But because you were saying he said, I love you. I want to get back together.

I'm going to work on things. And then it just didn't work out again. Do you think he's sitting there being like, I blew this or is he like, let's go party? I don't care. I don't even know if I can answer that. Again, like, you know, words and actions are different. And so I don't know. Yeah.

And I'll ask this just because I'm curious. Is there a reason that is, is it just because you have respect that you don't want to say, you know, things that really hurt you? Are you just like that is a respect thing? I'm not going to paint him in this certain light because I could tell that this bothers you. And I totally understand, but you're being very respectful. So you're a sweetheart. But, but I just, yeah, it's, it's so hard to navigate when you, and I'm speaking from experience, when you spend time with somebody, when everyone knows your relationship, when they think they know you, and you just have this so much info inside of you and so much anger and hurt. And you're like, I wish I could just say all these things because it's my truth and it's how I'm feeling.

And it's so hard to let people get away with treating me this way. but at the same time at what cost is it to sit and say these things about somebody. And as long as we're getting, you know, how you're feeling and what is going on in your life right now, that's all that matters. Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. I wanted to also clear this up because you did not move to New York to Chase Peter. You had plans to move there. He had plans to move there. of course you guys wanted to do that together when you were together,

but that doesn't mean New York is huge. You can go and do your own thing. You've wanted to do that. So I wanted to clear out that rumor that you are not, you're not moving to NYC to Chase Peter. No, and I don't think that we'll be hanging out in like the same crowd either. Right. No, it's a big city. We'll be fine.

But no, you know, I've lived in Chicago for seven years. To be honest, I wanted to move to London if I didn't do the show before. I'm all over the place in terms of that. I'm like, let's get up, let's go here. Like, let's explain something new. So London would kind of be hard now, but I wanted to go to another bigger city. It was L.A. or New York were kind of like the options that I was given and don't want to do L.A. I've not been the biggest fan of L.A.

So I was like, you know what? I think New York would fit my vibe. Like, I want people to just be blunt, open, honest, speak their mind. And it'll be new. It'll be fresh. I'll keep learning, like, in Chicago. and I know a lot of people there. I have five siblings in that city.

And I've, like, been there. I've done that. I've done it for seven years. And I'm, like, ready for a change. So I was like, you know what? Let's try New York. Like, why not? You know, there's a lot, a lot of opportunity there.

There's a lot that I could do really well in. So I was like, let's just do it. Like, let's do it. And I wasn't going to, like, let myself get down on myself and be like, oh, I have to pick a new city because we broke up and he's moving there. Like, you know, I essentially, we had an, we had an apartment together and essentially we agreed I was like hey you take it over I'm gonna go I'm gonna stay with my family so you take that one over and I'm gonna go find my own thing and um so I still always had the

intention to go there but I've just been pushing it off to essentially find whatever I want but there was never a time where I was like oh okay well since you're moving there I'm not gonna move there like yeah I learned this new term called centering where when somebody says something and you make it about yourself. And I want to make it very clear that I'm not trying to make this about myself. I'm just saying I can relate to certain things like staying in Nashville after a breakup and being like, I don't need to move away because we're not together anymore. I don't need to. I love this city. I'm going to stay. And it doesn't have to be that way. Just because you guys broke up doesn't mean you need to change your plans and that you don't get to do what you love

to do and move to the city you want to be in. And of course, the narrative is always going to be the woman chasing the guy. It's always making women look desperate, pathetic, and whatever these magazines piss me off. They always do this. And it's, it's just so frustrating. Like, it's the narrative is not, Kelly, still an independent woman wanting to, you know, stay moving to New York and do her own thing. So let's create that narrative now. What are you going to do in New York? What are we, are you going to go on dates? Because Bennett really wants to go on date with you. He told me. But what is your plan for New York going to do? What is going to make you happy there um so just in new it's it's actually cool i was just there i was apartment

shopping there and just like so many cool opportunities come my way in terms of this life that i'm living in and and just to clarify a lot of people are very confused like what are you even doing like yes i'm still affiliated with my my my family law firm i always will be a lot of people get confused because it is a law firm but you know my family does a lot of things outside of that they invest in other companies. We have land that were essentially like when I was day to day in that law firm, it wasn't only law stuff and people don't necessarily understand that. Like there was toxic gas on one of our properties that I was literally calling people in Michigan to be like, how do I remove this toxic gas from here? And even on the other side, like I would have to go and go to these companies and

like try and girl shoes and stuff like that to see if my brothers who kind of have taken over everything, my dad's kind of older, so they're now in charge. But I had like a strange job, like day to day. Yes, I did do the law stuff. I was like helping my brothers just doing like weird errand. So my job wasn't essentially like just law. Like I'm going to the courtroom every single day. Like I was all over the place. And I'm still doing that stuff. Like in terms of investing, my brothers are helping me tremendously to essentially say, hey, look, I think that this company would be great for you. Or if I find a company that I love, like they're helping me on the back end because I don't necessarily know, all of the logistics and how it works and I'm like trying to get myself to a place where I

understand it. And the only the only way you could do that is by essentially going into it. So I am still doing that, but New York also provides so many opportunities there. There's, there's a company called Laws of Motion that my family is invested in and I'm obsessed with the owner. Her name's Carly. She's so sweet. And I was just there for a couple of days and she's like, hey, Kelly, we have a photo shoot going on any way you can make it. And I was like, done. Be there in a second. And so New York is providing that. There's a company that I personally invested in, again, on a very small scale. Like, I'm just starting to do this on my own and learning about this side of things.

But it's called Realm. It's a smoothie company. And I, like, put my own money into it. There, you know, everyone is like headquartered in New York. Like, everyone has offices in New York. And it's what it's, it's either New York or L.A. And so even when I'm there, it's just like all of these companies that I want to be affiliated with, all of these companies that I want to invest in or like learn from these people are in New York.

So it's like, cool, I'm going to move there. I'm going to like do my own thing. And I'm, I'm going to just throw myself and see what happens. Good for you. I love that. I love it. Just you have the ability. You have, you know, the knowledge.

You have all these things going for you to go do whatever you want in whatever city you want. And I just think that's awesome. And don't get me wrong. It's terrifying. Like, I am terrified. New York. Like, I am terrified. I'm moving there by myself. And it's just kind of like, oh, man, like, this is going to be an absolute change. There's going to be dark days. There's going to be hard days. But at the end of the day, like, I think it will be beneficial for me. I think that it

will work out. It will. And I'm going to bring it back to the whole, you know, looking for a sign. Even though that didn't work out, it still taught you so much about relationships, what you want, what you don't want, taught you about yourself, showed you how independent you are and showed you that you can do things outside of your comfort zone and figure it out. And that's what this all comes back to is even though you wanted that sign, maybe it wasn't that he was your person, but it was to teach you a lesson. And it was to push you in this direction to go to New York and do all these things that you're capable of doing. So I think it's awesome. Obviously, every podcast I make somebody confess to me.

I feel like you'd probably have. a good one for me. I can start if you want me to like warm you up and and make you feel better about your life decisions because this, I have a good one. Speaking of work, I think my thinking about confessions. It's just funny because I am extremely conservative, especially in terms of relationships. And I'm very conservative. I'm, I'm an old soul. Like I am, I'm an old soul, but I have this like rebellious side of me that it comes out of nowhere. And I don't know where it comes from. But yeah, I think my confession is just essentially like, you know, there was a time where I was working in the office. And again, I worked with all my siblings. So I was there and I was like,

you know what? I'm having a hard day. Like I just got out of a relationship. Like, I need to get out of here. Like it was, it was just, it was bad. And was going to travel. And next thing I know, my sister's in the office. And she's like, comes to my office. I'm not there. She's like, where the hell is my sister and my brother comes the office i'm not there and he's like where's kell like where'd you go and um i decided to get on a plane and go to the middle east and next thing i know my sister sees me and find my friends in the middle of a desert in jordan so oh my gosh spontaneous yeah ended up dating a guy there for a year which is very spontaneous Yeah. He was the biggest sweetheart on earth. But I don't know. You know, I'm very conservative. And then I just get this little wash of like, all right, just get up and go. My family hates me for it. They're like, get your shit together. Yeah, but that makes you who you are. Those life lessons always come in handy. And I love, I love being spontaneous. That's something I would have done. Yeah. So, yeah, it was, she saw an Instagram of me writing me.

these horses in the middle of the desert with these guys that she clearly has no idea of, you know, they were helping us. And she was like, what did my sister get herself into now? Like, Jesus. Oh, my gosh. That's, I mean, I now I have two confessions because you just reminded me of one of mine where I would do the same things. I would, I can't remember how old I was. I was probably like 22. And I was working at a restaurant and I was friends with these guys that would always come in and sit in my section and one time they were like hey this guy's family has a private jet and blah blah blah and we're all going to Vegas you should come but we're leaving in an hour and I literally was in my t-shirt at this restaurant I worked out I wore a t-shirt jeans and

converse shoes I looked at my manager and I was like I am so sick like I don't know how to like get out of this but I'm just so sick right now I don't even know what to do and she's like you were fine like 15 minutes ago I'm like I know it must have been something I ate and I literally jumped on a plane in my work outfit, went to Vegas, like, went to the clubs. My mom was probably like, who have I raised? Because I called her and I was like, I'm going to Vegas with like these guys that I served at a restaurant. Like 22-year-old Caitlin was such a nut job. But I feel like also those things in life, like I look back on now where I'm like, like, you were probably more responsible than I was.

I was a degenerate. But I look back on them and I'm like, good for you, Caitlin. Would I want my daughter to do it? Absolutely not. But good for you. that's okay my confession is way worse than yours this is so embarrassing that i can't even but also i can because it's me but i was driving the other day and i never get my nails done but lately i've been getting my nails done because i went to miami and i was like i'm gonna get my hair colored my nails

done spray tan i'm gonna do do it all and so i got my nails done and i just find myself like itching my arms or like scratching my head and i just love the feeling of them so anyways i'm driving down the street the other day and I'm going home and I'm in my car and we stop at a red light and I look over it and this guy was like in a bigger truck looking down on me and he was like kind of giving me like the hey like nod and I was like oh my god and so anyways this red light was really long I forgot he was like taking me out and he unrolled his window to like I don't know try and get me to talk to him but I didn't notice and I just realized I was scratching my crotch with my nails just like sitting there.

scratching my freaking crotch while this guy was probably looking down on me being like what the hell is this trip doing and i was like and then i looked i was like oh my god like who does that it was just this thing like i was in la la land just sitting there freaking scratching my crotch with my new nails and he totally saw me doing it oh what's wrong with me man so embarrassing but anyways i've got a game for you before we um before we end this still of rosé in your hand? I do. Okay, good, because this is a doozy. It's called, how do you proceed? I'm going to put you in uncomfortable situations and you tell me how you would proceed. Okay. All right. So Peter calls, assuming you pick up the phone,

he tells you he got himself into some deep legal trouble and needs to hire you as his attorney to defend him. How do you proceed? No answer. You just, you just, don't pick up. Okay, great. You swipe right on a dating app and match with what seems to be the most amazing guy, checks all of your boxes on paper. He seems even better in person in your first date. But after a couple drinks, he starts to bring up how he wants to become an influencer.

How do you proceed? Not my style, to be completely honest. Everything else about him is perfect, but he wants to be an influencer. You'd be like, this is done here? No, I can't say that. I can't say that. I think, like, it all depends on the guy. Like, they're, I'll be honest with you. Here we go. There's a guy that I've been on a couple dates, right? Ooh. Tell me more. Is he an influencer? Can I Google him? Can I stock him?

This is the reason why I'm saying it. No, he doesn't even have the Instagram app. How great is that? It literally makes me feel so great. And I was like, thank God, you don't know this show that I'm on. You don't even have the app. I mean he has he was like I'm not a weirdo I have Instagram I just don't have the app because I could like be reading emails or I could like essentially be like reading those and I was like man you're such a nerd I love that um but it's so hot but no I wouldn't be fully against the influencer thing but at the same time it's so refreshing to like have someone you like you like that they're not essentially trying to like be you use you whatever it is um that they just care like they have their own and stuff going for them. And they're like, hey, I'm cool. I'm content with that. Like, you do you. I'm going to do me. See you later. I'm telling you, there's nothing hotter to me than when Jason has his glasses on reading the paper in the morning. I'm like, you, man, I love you. Keep teaching me. What did you read today? Yeah. And then I see them swiping and I'm like, no, you've ruined it. Okay, one more. The producers of the bachelor call to let you know that they want you on Bachelor in

paradise kicker is that peter will also be on it how do you proceed it's actually funny because i am at kelsey's house and i was like hey what do you think about bachelor in paradise and i don't know it's very hard for me um well it's it was there would have no issue okay let's put it this way if peter was there would have no issue there would be no communication hi how are you good to see you and proceed the concept in general might be different right because i don't would wonder how they would want that to look because obviously that would be a storyline. And if you don't care, how can they make that a storyline? Because do you think Peter would care or get jealous if you were there?

That's something you'd have to ask him. I don't really ever know what's going on in that head. Fair enough. Ooh, now I want to see you on Paradise. I'm like, this cast is going to be so lit. They have so many good people to choose from. I can't freaking wait. But so you would, you would think about going on if they asked you.

Well, I mean, why not? There's... Kaelin, this is how I see it. Like, you only live one life. Like, I've always tried to put myself out of my comfort zone because, believe me, I can be a little grandma and sit on my couch for every day, like, every night and be totally content doing so. But, you know, I'm going to get old and I'm going to look back and be like, yeah, not

happy with that. So I always try to get myself out of my comfort zone. Like, I've lived in crazy life. And that's by just, like, pushing myself out of my comfort zone and, like, trying to figure out who I am. Like, when you're putting yourself out of your comfort zone, that is. that's telling because it's essentially telling you like what you want what you don't want what you're comfortable with what you're not comfortable with and it's just like a lot of that was

for the show I was like hey look like I'm I'm interested in Peter this this guy seems great like this is a this is an opportunity that seemed really freaking cool like I don't even know what it entails I don't even know what I'm signing up for but like you live one life like just just try everything at least once and so it was like it all added up and I think that's just something you have to like live by it's like I'm not going to sit here and say no I'm turning it down completely because I'm not but I don't know I really like if I gave if I was given a contract to be like here Kelly here's your contract for bachelor in print ice I don't know what I would do well I would convince you even think out like who would I be interested in

Kate I don't know why Bennett reached out to me to say that he was interested in you have you guys like talked because he's like she knows I'm into it I was like okay so that I'm like, would that be someone you'd be interested in paradise? Or is there, there's really not one person that comes to your brain that you would be interested on paradise? I don't know. I'm very, like, I'm very closed off until I opened myself up. And, you know, like, for example, even the guy before I went on the show, I dated him for, like, a year, a little bit over a year.

And didn't date someone for a year and a half before I went on the show. Like, didn't talk to anyone, didn't really do anything. Like, I was, I was like heartbroken over him. I didn't talk to anyone for a year and a half and was like doing my own thing and then I'm very closed off but here I am I'm down I was down in Florida and this guy

rides by his golf cart and I was like wait I actually seems legit so like you never know how this world's going to work like it could after a breakup it could be one day two days which isn't healthy like you know feel your feelings and make sure you're going through the process but at the same time Like, it could be two years down the road that you find it on new. It could be a couple of weeks.

And I don't know because I'm, I know that I close myself off pretty hard. But like, it's always very easy for me to open myself up as well and what I recently learned. So if I went in Bachelor in Paradise, like, I don't know who I'd be interested in. I don't know, like, who would be able to, like, pull that guard down to be like, hey, Kelly, look, we would actually get along. Well, I'll tell you something that will give you, like, a little bit of hope. or encouragement is that you get so much more time with people out there on on paradise it's like you actually just get to spend the whole day with somebody you really get to be vulnerable with them get to know them feel comfortable with them and i feel like you just you get that time that you

don't get on bachelor bachelor bachelor so if that's encouraging to you at all it's i've heard really great stories and some really solid relationships have come out of that show so i do whatever makes you happy obviously but that is something that is different from the show yeah how long you in Nashville for? Until Tuesday. That's like one of my favorite things to do in Nashville is eat. Nashville has incredible food, whether it's freaking onion rings or like the fanciest sushi. I just find that Nashville has incredible restaurants.

Oh, totally. Kelly can give you my number and I'll send you. I have a notes in my phone of lists of like the best places to go in Nashville for food. We'll have so much fun tonight. I'm so jealous if I was there. I would definitely be joining you. I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you.

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