Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Kevin Wendt

Episode Date: July 10, 2018

Kaitlyn is joined by fellow Bachelor nation alum and Canadian Kevin to Wendt to talk about his past relationship with Ashley Iaconetti, their shared love of Big Brother, and answer questions from fans like you. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Who's down with OTV? Who's that with OTV? Podcast One presents off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Caitlin is creating a space where girls and gents can feel empowered to be themselves. Get ready for lots of laughs. Tabby topics. On filtered advice and wine. Lots of wine.

Get ready to shake things up. Here's Caitlin. Welcome to Off the Vine. Happy to have you here. Yeah, thanks. I love Nashville. I'm so happy to be here finally. It's so, okay, first of all, let's introduce you.

Winner. How much do you hate this term? Winner of Bachelor of Canada. Winner of Winter Games. Former firefighter, fellow Canadian. Kevin Went, the D is silent. Definitely silent. So people say where, so it's Kevin Went.

And then they ask where did you go? Where did I go? Kevin went where? I usually open with like something funny. I feel like that's a missed opportunity for me that I didn't think of that. But you're sick of it, aren't you? To be clear, I'm a current firefighter. Okay, I was going to ask.

I worked 24 hours yesterday I work. No, okay, I'm so proud of you. I honestly was like, that was on here of things to ask you if you are still firefighting. Yeah, it's probably the number one question I get since doing the shows. I try. I try so hard to like not ask the typical questions. No, that's okay. But I'm going to throw out this whole thing just so you know.

No, no. That's one that I get asked a lot. We work 24 hours at a time. So you can do shift trades. As long as there's a butt in the seat, you can shift trade with anybody. I should know that. I dated a firefighter. Yeah. Well, we have a very easygoing, like, brotherhood where if you need a day off, you just kick the day off. Okay. So it's totally, and so they're all on board with you having a crazy schedule now. Yeah. So when I filmed Bachelor of Canada, it was over two months and nobody knew where I was. Like, I was so scared by the non-disclosures that I didn't even tell anybody that I went away. No way. I just asked everybody for days, days, days. I ended up working. I think. think an extra 10, 24-hour shifts per month for three months after the show just to pay it all back. That's crazy.

Yeah. So you really had some confidence going into the show. If you, like, took the whole two months off, you're like, yeah, I'm going to be gone for a while. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, you've got to be confident going into those things. That's so funny. That's what Sean did, too. He, like, quit his job completely and was like, yeah, I'll probably be gone for a while. I was like, oh, I like your confidence.

Sorry, so you're still working. See, but it's funny because so many people come out of the shows and they don't work. Well, they, I mean, they do, but it's completely a different lifestyle. And it's really hard to go back to your regular life. Trista and Ryan, Ryan was a firefighter. And she said that people would actually fake fires and pull alarms just so he would go. Do people do that to you? I haven't had the fake fire yet.

Because that's pretty illegal. It's very illegal. I was like, that's crazy. But that was season one, like millions of views. Oh, for sure. So it's kind of different probably. No, ours is. How you did the Canadian thing?

Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. Go on. Hey. I'm going to call you out a lot for that. No, but I get a lot of it while we're in uniform. Yeah. I got a call. A guy was having a heart attack.

Yeah. And the daughter who called 911 asked for a selfie with me while we were getting care to her dad. Yeah. I mean, he was fine. It was a really minor thing. We were basically just waiting for the ambulance at that point. But he's like, excuse me, do mind if I just get a quick photo while you're here? And then she posts on Instagram.

No way. That's so wild. Like, people have balls. Yeah, they do. People have serious balls. That's crazy. So I really need this wine that we're drinking right now. I'm like, I'm such a hot mess today. You're late. I'm so late, but that's kind of, I'm trying really hard to work on that, but I shouldn't say I'm always late. I'm usually something happens in my day where I'm like, how the hell is it already this time? I'm supposed to be somewhere. So today, okay, first of all, I wanted to warn you even before coming in here. I've had such a shit week and not, no reason, like nothing happened. I've been like a crazy emotion. emotional mess. Is that, can I blame that? I don't even know what day it is.

No, you said you've had a shi week, but it's Monday. So when did the shit week start? When did the shit week start? Okay, okay. You know where it started? Brandy Cyrus invited me to her sister, Miley's Fourth of July party. That sounds incredible.

I was like, okay, I can hang. Like, Miley's pretty young. She's like 24, 25 or something. And I was like, and she goes, it's going to be lit. And I'm like, yeah, my middle. name's lit. I can hang. It turns out I can't. It turns out I was just like, I mean, I had the time of my life. I was like swimming in the pool, just feeling like, but I went swimming with

my phone. Ah, that's where it is. And you know the next day when you just have that like hangover anxiety? So is this the, when you and Sean, we're at that party, I saw some inscency and stuff. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I went swimming with my phone. The next day I'm feeling all the anxiety. And I'm like, My phone stopped working. I threw it in a bag of rice for four hours. It works. I was like, what? Who figured that out to, like, throw your phone in a bag of rice?

And then I was like, okay, and then it wouldn't charge. So the last few days I've been working with, like, a phone that I have to charge overnight, and it only gets up to 20%. So I had to go to the Apple store today to get a new phone. I went to the Apple store in Green Hills in Nashville, and they're like, it's closed. It's under renovations. And I was like, oh, my God, do I have time to go all the way? to Cool Springs so I went and I get in there and they're like it's like an hour wait I'm like okay if it's exactly an hour I could probably make it still on time let's do it so then we wait I go

sit in my car just drink coffee like hang out and try and charge my phone as much as I can and go back in the guy's just taking a sweet-ass time then the my phone won't work to like turn on to get like the recovery password or something and it was just like a crazy I'm being so dramatic. It's actually not that bad of a Monday. Just first world issues. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. My Apple iPhone is broken. I've been so dramatic, but I think the whole problem is I've been so emotional all week and weekend. And I'm like feeling sorry for myself because Sean like is now never

home and he like lives at this gym. But I'm like, duh, he just started a business. Like he kind of has to be there all the time. But I'm just having a pity party. I get it. No, I get it. I just miss them. Yeah, you miss it. That's fair, though. I think it's very fair. He's so dedicated and motivated to that right now, probably. Sean is like, I always call him Mr. Fitness.

Like, he is the most dedicated person to fitness I've ever met in my life. He's launching an app. He opened a gym. He's so, like, and that's great. I'm just like, hello. Yeah, his Instagram's got me to the gym a few days. I wasn't going to go. Really?

Okay. If Sean's doing this, I better go today. Oh, well, look at you. I mean, look at him. Motivating people. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what he wants. I try and let him motivate me, but it just annoys me.

I'm like, stop telling me. Like this morning, he was like, why don't you get up and go the gym? I'm like, don't you tell me to work out. You'll go when you want to go. I will go when I want to go. But yeah, I got lit and then I... So do you have a phone now? Phone works?

Yeah, except now. So I can't believe my phone, like, was at 2% and it finally backed up, like, from my iCloud. And now it's not working to get everything back on my phone. So I have all my contacts, but I don't have... Okay, so it's funny that you mention this, because this yesterday I did this. Oh, you did. I bought an iPhone 10 yesterday.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was six hours before my 14,000 photos moved over. So not everything moves at once. Oh, that makes me feel better. He says, as long as you're on Wi-Fi and you're plugged in, it will slowly grab everything from your cloud. So it's not like it's not there. It'll just take a while. Not only am I dramatic.

I'm impatient as well. Oh, me too. I was going crazy. I was like, why do I need these 14,000 photos right now? I thought I lost everything. I was like, great. It's all gone. No, it's there.

Okay. Because I have some pretty good pictures from the 4th of July. Oh, I bet. I found one where I was just, like, dancing on a diving board, and then I totally overshot my dive. And my legs, like, flung out over top of my head. It was pretty, pretty, it was good content for my Instagram. I'll tell you that. But I haven't set it up yet.

Okay, what was I going to, okay. Oh. It's good wine, mother. Is it good? Yeah, I like it. It's from Sterling Vineyards, where I was in Napa, and they sent me a bunch of wine, and it is frigging delicious. I like it. I apologize that it's not that cold.

No, it's good. I like it. What are you doing in Nashville? You a little Canadian? Yeah. You know what? I have a summer very packed with stuff, obviously. Yeah. After Paradise, there's just flight after flight.

I think I have 10 flights this month. What? Yeah, I'm just kind of all over. Like more than L.A. next week. For, like, media stuff? A little bit of everything. Everything. I guess, yeah.

Like pickups. Yeah, I got a little bit of touring around. Yeah, yeah. This was the one week that I head off. Yeah. And my friends and I from Toronto usually go away once a year. Yeah. In Nashville, we're all country music fans.

Yeah. So we just booked this before I even went to Paradise. We booked this. Oh, okay. And last time we came was this. The CMA Fest and the Stanley Cup finals. Oh, boy. I couldn't even walk the streets last year when we came.

So we said, let's go Monday through Thursday this time and keep it just a little more trip. That is the best decision you've ever made. Nashville on the weekends, especially when CMA Fest and freaking, yeah, that's nuts. Yeah, so we thought Monday through Thursday, we're just going to hit some patios and just have some, I just love this place. I love the, isn't it fun. Oh, my, I love broad. I just love that everything is live music. Everyone's happy.

You know, we don't get that in Toronto at all. No, Toronto's very different. Yeah. I was just there. and it kind of like, it gives me a bit of anxiety. Like, it feels like, well, they call it a mini New York. Yeah, but I don't feel like people are like friendly there and I'm like, hello, Canada. Like, I feel like people are always just like on the go, on their phone, not like enjoying life.

I feel like if you stop someone on the street in Toronto, they will always guide you in the right way. They'll always be polite to you, but they're just very busy. It's a very big city feel. Nashville, I swear I could walk down the street tonight, high-fiving everybody because I will. Yeah, because I will. And I will. That's what I do. Once tequila kicks in, that's what I do.

Oh, yeah. And I just love that every rooftop is packed with fun people. And I think the least talented person here might be the most talented person I've seen in Canada live yet. I know. It's actually insane. Do you ever throw out high tens while I'm thinking about it? I'm going to start that tonight. Yeah, you should.

I feel like high fives are like just, they've been done. Not enough. You got to do high tens. Okay. I'm going to text you a couple of high tens I do tonight. Please do. You need to prove it. Yeah, I agree.

I'm like, sometimes I work on music here just because I've always, like my whole life I've done like musical theater and singing and all that kind of stuff. So I always, like I have friends that are songwriters. So I do some music. But I'm like, and then I go out to like a honky talk and I'm like, yeah, I suck. They're incredible. I'm telling you. They're so good. There was a girl in the lobby of the hotel.

Oh, yeah. And she could, I swear, be the headliner in any bar in Toronto. Like no problem. Oh, yeah. And she's in the hotel lobby. They just look like Taylor Swift saying, you know what I mean? It's incredible. Just waiting for her mom.

moment that she deserves that she deserves that's why I love this city even like the airport I'll walk in like and some band is just playing like when you go to get your luggage and I'm like you guys are incredible like I could sit there and I hate airports and I can sit there forever and just listen to them it's wild everybody is talented and and I feel like they don't get a fair shot because there's so many people that are good I guess it's like the actors going to L.A you just have thousands that come because this is where you're going to get your break yeah exactly you need that break to happen right it's I mean the same thing is like being an athlete all those you know The dream jobs. You need the breaks. Yeah. What else was I going to say to? Anything you want. Anything. Open book.

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in smaller, I guess, smaller timelines. We can get a lot more time off work. Right. But if I had any other nine to five job, but no way. No, no way. There's no way. Oh, so you have, you must love what you do. Yeah. It's the only thing. I mean, don't tell my boss. I would do it for free. So it's like, your boss probably listens to Off the Vine. So you're screwed. You're screwed. Like six-year-old Grumpy Man, definitely sister out, Elizabeth and Caitlin. Hey, you never know. I bring smiles to everybody's face, okay? Don't underestimate off the vine.

Yeah. So you won two Bachelor shows, but how weird is the term winning? Like, when it comes to, like, relationships. Worst thing ever. Isn't it the worst? Sean always hates that term. They're like, winner of the Bachelorette. He's like, winning just seems like money, which I have a question.

Did you guys win money on winter games or just love? You know what? They took the whole money thing out after. They did? show called? What? Bachelor Pat. Remember that one?

You could win money on that one. Yeah, you could like pick between the relationship or money at the end or split. Remember? And didn't one guy grab all the money themselves? Oh my gosh. Yeah, that was a big thing. That is actually so funny. I forgot they did that.

Why did they change it? I don't know. They should still do that. I feel like the show is so big now. Yeah. The premise of the show is so interesting to all of us. Yeah. If they're going to do it, if they're going to just pay us a daily rate to come, we'd all

say yes anyway. Yeah. That's true. Why pay us if they don't have to? That's actually a great point. It's actually a lot of fun and we all enjoyed going. I was just with Ben a couple days ago and he even said that was a great time. We just had a really good time.

Really? Yeah. On winter games? Yeah. Oh, because he looked miserable. He did. Yeah, he was a little bit. But I understand how the editing works.

And he was a little bit off, but he says he looks back and it was still just a lot of fun. Yeah. Good group of people. Yeah. And that's a kumbaya experience. That's the thing. Yeah.

One of my favorite life experience. was being on the Bachelor, not Bachelor, but the Bachelor, just because... So I watched your season? I didn't watch your Bachelor season. Like I watched The Bachelor, but you didn't watch me on The Bachelor. Yeah, like I watched Sean and you. I didn't watch you before that. Oh, I was a real treat.

A real treat. But, yeah, I had so much fun. Who is the Bachelor? Chris Souls. So is that the one that Ashley was on? Yes. Oh, okay. Yes.

That's how we met. He's the farmer guy. He's the farmer. Yeah, I never, okay. I only seen the highlight pack. Oh. The highlight reel from Chris Soul season, I should go back and watch that. Sometimes I just like turn it on to see, like just to reminis, but I'm like, I can't, I can't do it.

It's too weird. And weren't you the first one to have two women on the first night and all that stuff? Yes. Okay, see, you were the first season I fully watched. Oh, yeah. With like the girlfriend back in the day. And now Brits married. Oh, is she?

Yeah, and I'm like, oh, you beat me. So she was on the same Bachelor season as you. Yes. And they just got the two. Right. That's insane. It was insane. I'll tell you, you want to kick somebody while they're down, put them against another woman and let the men decide who's better.

The vote off. But I was. But I was better. No, I'm just kidding. I actually love Brit, but it's, it was a crazy. People always forget that my season had two bachelorette, but I don't. People don't forget. People never forget.

Oh, gosh. Okay, so what else did I? Oh, I wanted to talk about the Canadian Bachelorette. Yeah. Because I want to know the difference, like, between, because now you've been on both sides. Are the Canadian producers just way more, like, easygoing, nice? I don't know how to word this. Yeah, no, I know what you mean.

I know what you mean. You kind of have, like, a love, hate with a lot of the producers, right? Like, you really, a lot of them are your friends outside of the show. And a lot of them, you know, they're just working. They got to do their job. Which is great. Like, you respected, too. The difference with the Canadian one, and I get asked to comparison all the time. is that the first one I went on was The Bachelor of Canada.

I didn't know anything else. I didn't know what producer's job even was. Yeah. And I didn't have anything to compare it to. And I was madly in love in like five days. Yeah. Like actually. So my whole thing is so clouded that people always say,

what's the difference between Paradise Winter Games and The Bachelor at Canada? Yeah. Like I'm sure if you and Sean ever went to, like, compete in another fun, like, parody show, you would never compare it to that first experience. Yeah. But when it comes to the actual production, it's exactly the same. Like, do they look? Really?

They came out. I think it was Jojo and Nix. They, like, shadowed, like, Alon, and they shadowed them to, like, get to know how to do it. Yes, I do remember that. Yeah. So they, it's exact same. We traveled the same. The interviews are all the same.

Everything's exact same. What about time off camera? Did you ever get time? So you were on, so Jasmine was the Bachelor at Canada. Yeah. You went all the way to the end. Yeah. Did they ever let you have, um, off camera time with her?

Um, besides the fantasy suite? One time. Oh, for how long? Um. I broke my foot. Yeah. Playing football in Montreal on a group date. Yeah.

And it was the next week that we were in, or two weeks later, we were in Marrakesh in North Africa. Yeah. And I was the only one that wasn't allowed to go shopping with the boys because I had a boot on, like a big boot. Yeah. And they said, you need to rest. And they knew that I was like, hometown was next week. Right. And I was on the fence.

I was still unsure of the process. Yeah. So I think they just wanted me to have some. So they put us on the rooftop for a couple hours. We just got to hang out and talk in the sun. Which is all you need. That's all, I'm telling you. And then I was so motivated leaving there.

Yeah. And then I will tell you, now that enough time has passed, I can say this. You're out of contract. Yeah, I can say this story. There was one time, it was right after hometowns. Yeah. We were in Vancouver. Yeah.

And we just did our rose ceremony up top of whatever hotel we were at. And I got on the phone. And it was the premiere. I'll never forget the night because it was the season premiere of Jojo's season. Yeah. And I called every single hotel and asked under Jasmine Lorimer, Betty, Lorimer, every single name, and then I found one. No.

And I called her room. And she was like, she thought it was Michael or Claire, like one of the producer or directors. Yeah. And I said, hey, what room are you and I'm coming over? And she's like, no, I'm kidding me. I said, I'm going to cab over. That is amazing. I went downstairs.

I got a cab. I snuck out of my room. I put my key in the door. Yeah. So that it would just almost lock. I grabbed a cab. I went, I cabed like a $40 car right across Vancouver, snuck up the service elevator to her room. and she opened the door in shock that I had done this.

I ended up staying for like two hours. We talked about everything. It was the same kind of conversation that made me go to Cuba for the final and now 100% I want to propose to her. It was just that two hour conversation we had. And I snuck back down, got a cab on the street, and I made it home just in time for the crew to be packing up the truck in front of the hotel. And nobody saw you? I walked up with a 7-Eleven coffee and they knew I was an early riser. So I said I snuck out to grab a coffee and they never asked me anything of it.

And I saw her. I saw her in the airport the next morning, and she kind of gave me this funny look, like, you f*** her. Yeah. But how did you not get caught? And that was one of those moments, too, where I knew I wanted to marry her when I had that. That's so crazy. Yeah. So that was the only off-camera time I got I kind of made for myself.

That's what people don't even understand is the lack of time you get with somebody, and that sometimes all you need is, like, no cameras. And just that's why fantasy suites are so great. And everybody just assumes what it is. But it's actually the best time to get to know somebody and talk for, like, as many hours as you possibly can. because that's all you need is like this real time. Yeah. So our fantasy suite in Cuba was actually so short because we got stuck during our final date that we actually said during our fantasy. I'm glad we had that time last week because our suite was so short and we were so tired.

And you know, like you were the lead so you know you got to wake up at six and do pickups for five or six hours. She had to get up and do that. And I was still laying in bed. Like, we'll tell them to leave me alone all day. Yeah. be in bed. Yeah. That's it.

You get zero like downtime as the lead. It's crazy. And then that's people wonder why you break down so much. It's, I mean, the leads and the contestants, like, you're just under so much stress and pressure and everything. But that's, when you guys were on the Canadian one, it was, I was like, dang Canadian budget. Like, you guys traveled better places than I ever have on the show. What up course entertainment? They got behind that shit.

Seriously. What is it? Sunwig, was that? Sunwing was our sponsor. Yeah. Yeah. We went to the same sandals that Ben's season went to, like the one in Jamaica. Yeah.

Yeah, it was the same one. Yeah, the thing is, we were in Vancouver in April. There's no mansion time because it's too cold. It was like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so we did the one mansion night. We flew to Jamaica the next day. Oh, that makes sense.

I didn't even think about the weather being a problem. Yeah, we waited three extra days in the hotel for the weather to clear up just to do the limo entrances because it was raining for, it was April. No way. Oh, yeah. Always raining. Yeah. That's so wild because on my season, not my season, Christmas. soul season of The Bachelor that I was on, we stayed in the mansion for like five weeks.

Like it was like, we're like, get us the hell out of here. That's crazy. And the mansion is gross. I'm touring that mansion. I'm touring it next in two weeks when I go there. Well, actually, it's like now when I go back, I just went back to Beyond Becca's night one. Oh, I saw that. Yeah. The smells like give me like stress.

PTSD. Yeah, I like walk in and I smell the mansion and I'm like, oh, God. Like, it's so crazy. And there's like rats. It's gross. Yeah. A couple that owns it, right? And they, like, rent it out to the...

Yeah, that's pretty cool. And people can rent it out to, like, party and do whatever, do events. Like, a lot of people do events there at the Bachelor Mansion. But I wonder how much that costs. Just prom night in the hills or whatever. That would be so fun. Could you imagine? Yeah.

Could you imagine being a super fan of the show and being able to, like, tour the mansion or having a party there? Yeah. Yeah. That'd be great content for the Instagram stories. For the Graham. For the Graham. It'd be great. Do it all for the Graham.

So I remember seeing. senior in Toronto Oh, that was the Mayweather fight. Yes, the Mayweather fight. I had a little too much to drink. Yeah, we all did. I had a great time, though. That was a good time. Well, you didn't get to work. You were just DJing and VJing during the workout. We were all

Yeah. Oh, yeah, you guys... We did Sean's... Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. You guys worked your asses off and I was like up there, like, ones and two's not actually just pressing like playing stop on my computer, but it was that was so much fun. And then we went out after. And you I remember you telling me that you got approached by producers to go on winter games. And we probably weren't like the most like, yeah, do it. We were probably like, be careful, man.

Yeah, that's pretty much what you both said. I just always, like my girlfriend, Rachel, right now. Yeah. They like are talking to her about going on the show. And I'm like, obviously, like, it's up to her and it's up to people to go on. And it can be like the best thing ever. But I just always want to warn people that it can be really hard. You have to have thick skin.

You have to like, like it's more than what you think. think it's more than just like a cool opportunity it can actually like really affect you yeah um i'm telling you the the more time you spend on it like i'm where i'd get one comment from a canadian when i have like 20 000 followers one comment would say you're ugly yeah and you stick with me for like two weeks oh i know now i scroll through like so much hate and you're like i'm somebody i'm still relevant like i had the worst like the photo of me on the people magazine photo that was released for the cast. I just laugh because I remember doing that...

Oh, I bet people just rip you apart. And it's just, I just... Because it's supposed to be cheesy, right? It's supposed to be cheesy. Isn't Paradise like everything about like the intro and the... Wait till the intro. Like my intro. Let's just say I brought my fire helmet to Mexico. I was going to say you for sure played the firefighter card.

And some of the other guys, like now that I'm watching Peckis season, I know the plot. I'm watching these guys do their intro from like Fitz is down the beach doing it with them. I'm laugh. I'm literally laughing out loud because I, now that I've seen... Oh, that's so funny. But that's what it is. It's like a... There's still a lot of love.

Like, this is a really good season coming up. There's, like, a lot going on. I have questions. Okay, I get it. First of all, you won The Bachelorette. You won Winter Games. Did you win Paradise, you a little overachiever? I don't think there's such thing as winning Chargers.

I know, I feel like everybody. I'm not going to ask you if you're engaged because I know you can't answer me on that one. Right. I know how this works. I definitely met someone. Are you engaged? Oh. Definitely met someone.

You did? Yeah. Are you happy right now? That's what people always ask. Are you happy? Are you allowed to tell me if you're with someone? somebody? No, I don't think I can tell you that.

Because, yeah, it's a long season. I'm just got to get you drunk. Yeah, I just keep the wine flowing. I know, I'm like, where's your wine? You know what? It's looking a little empty. Let's pass that on over. Okay.

Okay, so you met somebody. But did you meet more than one? Because you... Who am I? I hate when people do this to me, and I'm just grilling you right now. I feel like, I think Paradise was... Probably, like, it's a really cool experience. Yeah.

It was actually the first time I met Alon. Oh, what? He didn't do winter games. He didn't do winter games at all. Oh, yeah. I remember that he didn't. Yeah. So it was the first time I met him was in the hotel before we filmed and everything.

Is he just a character or what? He's awesome. Oh, my guy. That's the weird part. We're the exact same age. Oh, you are? Yeah. And we just have a, yeah, he's just a really interesting.

Very interesting, but like his humor is really good. Like he makes him. Oh, he's very witty. Very witty. And he knows when he's around other younger guys, like guys from Becca season, a little more relevant, the kind of chirps he says towards him. You just laugh. He's just really funny. He is.

I'll give him that. He's very witty. And like very, like his humor is, you can tell he's like an intelligent person. Very smart. Yeah. That's the other, yeah. He's not the dumb humor. No, no.

He gets it. He gets it. But the thing I liked about the Paradise Experience is they leave you alone. Yeah, that's what I've heard. I'm telling you, I've never, like even winter games, it was a new thing. I remember when Chris Harrison came in the first day with a beard. And he's like, we don't know what we're doing. We're just going to film and make this cool.

I was facetiming with him before he went. He was in the back of a car. And I was in New York doing my Broadway show. And we were FaceTiming with Andy and him. And I was like, what is on your face? So good. But I kind of like it. Yeah, it was so good.

Yeah. But they didn't really know what they wanted to do with the show yet. They had a lot of freedom. But Paradise is such a well-oiled machine. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That they just leave you alone. They just leave you alone.

There's cameras everywhere that they will just, if you want to walk away with a girl and go spend three hours alone with her somewhere, there's a camera on you and they just, they don't even produce, they just let you be. And that's why I loved it. Oh, that's amazing. I'm telling you. Because then you can really get to know somebody in that's in that's in that situation as well. Yeah. More than on other shows. There was one point with a certain woman on the show. Yeah. I literally had, we went and got, you know, went over to Wells, got a tequila soda. Yeah. And went and sat on the daybed and five hours had gone by. And we hadn't even. stopped the conversation. Wow. The camera is right above us. Okay, that means it was Kendall for sure because she can talk. She can hold a conversation. She can definitely hold a good. She's very smart and beautiful.

Oh, yes, I get to see it in your eyes. We'll see. We'll see. But yeah, you spend hours of someone there and obviously you know by being the bachelor's right, you don't ever get that. Like you and Sean never spent five hours talking on camera. We didn't even get like 30 minutes. They'd be like, all right, that's it for your date.

We'd be like, what? Kiss her again. We need it. You're good. Yeah. That was the craziest part for us is we really did not spend a lot of time together. Like compared to all my other relationships, they just knew that my mind was so strong with him. Yeah.

That they actually made me spend more time with all the other guys. Yeah. Which is, doesn't make sense, but I guess it does for TV. No, it does make sense. And I mean, only because you definitely know the producers and stuff from Canada as well. Yeah. They had extra audio of Jasmine speaking about me that they would use for the other guys. Because similar to Sean and you, we were very much connected from the start where she needed more content with this guy and this guy and this guy because they're just kind of existing until they're gone.

There's so many times where I was like, wait, I said that about that guy? And then I was like, no. I totally was talking about Sean. You called Sean he. Not his name. You called him he. Yes, exactly. So they can say he, blah, blah, blah.

Exactly. And then poor Sean like doesn't understand the editing yet. Now he does. But like at that time watching, he's like, how could you feel that way about that guy? I'm like, I really didn't. Sean and I and you and Jasmine have a lot in common because that was the months after the show. I just, I was so concerned with how she felt about so many other people. Of course, because you're a human being with feelings.

I remember, like, I was not totally in love with Chris Souls. And I remember watching it back being totally fine with like that I didn't end up with him. And I was so happy for Whitney and because I was really good friends with her and I knew that he wasn't my person. Right. But it still killed me to watch things back. Yeah. Even though I wasn't in love with him. So I can only imagine when you feel.

the actual feelings of being in love with somebody and then having to watch that back. Yeah, and we were on different time zones at the time. So she was three, I was watching it well before her. And then I'd be sleeping by the time she's watching it. And I remember just being a nightmare. It's so hard. You're not looking forward.

You figure being engaged and you're happy, this will be fun to watch. It's actually miserable watching it after. It's hell. Yeah. It's actually hell. And anyone who could ever say that they've been in love would never want to watch their person,

dating and making out with all these people. And especially because you don't know, Like, it's not like she's going to sit there and tell you, like, okay, I'm this far with this person. I've done this with this person. You don't know until you're watching it back. And then she doesn't even know how it's playing out because of editing. Right, yeah. Oh, God.

I thought I was the only guy. Like, seriously, when I watched it, I said, that guy was even a really person. But you probably were. Yeah. And I would never think twice as she's going on a one-on-one tonight with someone else. I wouldn't even think, that would even cross my mind. Yeah. I'd be in my bed.

Like, it was a good date. I rocked that date. Yeah. And you're like, well, I know it's me. So. Yeah. You don't realize until later that she was with another guy that she was really feeling. Yeah.

Ah, it's so hard. It's a weird thing. Even when I was on dates that I was like, I may look like I'm like feeling it so much, but sometimes you're just going through the motions. Like, you're like, okay, well, this guy's fun. I'd like to keep him like as long as I can because I know I'm not in love with him, but I really like him. So I'm going to, like, keep this relationship going.

I can't act like I don't like I don't like him or he'll freak out and, like, want to leave. Like, you have to really play out each relationship. as far as you possibly can go to, A, like, know if it's what you want, and B, just you're playing the role. Yeah. Like, you got to do what you got to do for the TV show. You kind of got to play the part. Yeah, I don't know if I envy that part yet.

Like, the lead role. Honestly, I don't think I envy that part. I will tell you that it was, well, I mean, hands down, the hardest thing I've ever done. For sure. The most draining, like, in every way possible. And I am, like, so bad if people are upset with me. Like, I'm not good with that. Right.

And so I'm just constant. hurting other guys that I care about. Every other day, you're hurting somebody. And then, you know, the one that you're going to end up with and you, I mean, I knew from night one and I was just like, you have to just compartmentalize everything. And it's, it's, that just sounds like, oh, you know, you just. No, it's not that easy. You can't.

No. It's so hard. You're not getting any sleep. Yeah. You're just like, I mean, on autopilot. Like, it's, it's rough. But on that note, would you ever be The Bachelor? Why is that's such a common question?

Because it just... I get that quite a bit right now. I've gotten the Canadian one for a long time. Right. Well, that would make sense. But just to be clear, for whoever is from Canada listening right now, I was never approached. I never asked. There was nothing to do with, even when Jasmine and I split up, never once was at a talk.

To be honest, my timeline with the TV shows was when Jasmine and I split up, I spent three, four months doing the typical, like, I was heartbroken. Yeah. I stared at my ceiling and didn't move and drank a little too much. It was real heartbreak. And it wasn't until the producers reached out and just said, hey, if you're willing to do a show, it's not until December. Yeah. This is right before I saw you and Sean. Right.

They said, it's not until December. You got lots of time, but it's a parody on the Olympics. And right there, I'm like Canadian, skating, skating. I was like, this will be great. So I refocused all my energy. Yeah. But I never once talked about Bachelor, Bachelor Canada, and never once. Yeah.

No. It's rough. I got asked that a lot. I never, we never discussed it. I think just people, like, if you're well-liked on a show, they automatically assume that you could possibly have the potential to be a lead. Right. So, I mean, it's so crazy, too, because it's like, do you even know how you're going to be portrayed on Paradise? Do you have an idea?

I have an idea, but no, I wouldn't know. I mean, Jordan told me over the phone on my last podcast. Who Magnum? Like Jordan, the model? Yeah. Okay. Told me that he's the king of paradise. Would you agree?

So I, first of all, Jordan's probably listening to this. It's not the king. I put him in as the mayor of paradise. Oh, the mayor. He was the mayor because everything he says is so political sounding. Really? Even though it's not. It's like he wrote it the day before.

But when he speaks, everyone just looks up at him like he's making a speech. Yeah. So I called him the mayor of paradise. And he brought that up numerous times that he was the mayor of paradise. Wait, the mayor of paradise sounds way cooler than the king because I'm like, you douche. Yeah, you're not. The mayor's like, yeah, okay, okay. King, I'm like, calm down.

I called him, I appointed him, the mayor of Paradise. Oh, hilarious. What were you of Paradise? What would you call yourself? You know what I was? I was definitely like the big brother to women and men. I was kind of, I don't know if it's because I'd been on a show beforehand. No, it's because you're Canadian.

And it's because I was polite. Yeah, it's because you're polite. Yeah, exactly. Respect people. Yep. And I also had been on the show, you know, they knew my story from Ashley and I in the Winter Games and stuff. Right. That they just looked at me.

When they showed up to Paradise, they had only. one episode on TV. Yeah. So they still had a, like they only did the opening night. We left the next day. They had no idea that, like, what was even going on on Becca season. Interesting. Yeah.

Okay, can we talk about that? Were you, was it real love with Ashley I? Or were you guys just like in a fun relationship and it just didn't work out? You really like the long distance relationships, apparently. Isn't it just the worst? The worst thing ever. Pick someone in your damn. That's what I'm like, I'm like, if you end up with somebody in paradise, you're doing long distance again.

You do realize that. Okay. So to be clear. Yeah. First relationship around the talk about moving east was always there. It's the only reason why I went as far as it did. Yeah. And she will agree to that.

Yes. It just didn't work out. Yeah. With Ashley, I think the premise of the show, I think if I met Ashley in Paradise, we never would have left together. We would have, like, maybe clicked and had some great times together. But the premise of the winter games was so couples-oriented, like Dean and Leslie. And everyone, like, teamed up.

You teamed up. And Ashley and I were just best friends. Yeah. Every day. We talked to what everything. And we left Vermont. I remember thinking, where's this going? I'm not moving to Los Angeles any time soon.

And she's not moving to, imagine her downtown Toronto. No. There's zero for some chance. I'm not happening. There's zero chance. And I remember her giving me some really good advice. And she said, we don't really like each other. Can we just wait until after the show?

Because I was coming to L.A. for all of February. Yeah. And she said, why stress every day in December, January when we could just wait until March and just like played it? So when I came to L.A., we just had a lot of fun. I wouldn't call it love. I wouldn't even call it something. I think we both knew it had an end date. Yeah.

But I treat women with respect. I don't never want to screw her over. I just wanted to, like, play it out. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, there was a few things that came to light after that I didn't know about. Yeah. And they're constantly brought up in my life and I've never commented on them.

Yeah. Except for maybe some lonely ITM nights. So hopefully those are buried in, buried in. Oh, boy. Yeah. Well, apparently there's just too much content with Bachelor in Paradise. So you're probably good. There's a lot of content.

You're probably good in that. Yeah. There's a few things that went on. I have seen Ashley, I guess, just once since we split up. But there's a couple things that I still am unsure about that happened and timelines of certain things. I was going to say the timeline is probably a little sketchy if you think about it, like from your part, if you're like, wait, I was showing you respect. Were you showing me respect? So, I mean, the thing is, is I look back at it, like I didn't lose my fiancé or the girl that I want to be with forever.

I was seeing things out just until it was, till it ran its course. I didn't know Jared had spoke to her I didn't know And I haven't really spoke on this So you're getting the first Oh hey oh headlines But I didn't know that they had spoke I didn't know

I knew they went to St. Lucia She invited me on that trip many times I asked me to go She was going to book me a ticket And I was the one that said I really want to meet Jaden Tanner I really want to go But it just doesn't

I'd be secret I can't even show that I'm there Because it's still a secret from the show I said you go have a good time I had no idea that Jared professed as love for her, that he kissed her. Man, that's kind of a kick in the balls, though.

I didn't know any of that. And this is the part that, this is probably the only part that I'm disappointed in is I didn't know that until another cast member from Winter Games texted me the day after their 45-minute video. Oh, God. And asked about it. And I still hadn't know. So that was the only, that's not cool.

That's the only part where I was like, we had already broken up. I'd already agreed to Paradise. Yeah. Everything was already forward. I mean, it wasn't going to change anything, but at the same time. Somebody matched me and said, did you know that Jared kissed her in? stuff at the airport. And I had no idea. I think that was the only part that kind of hurt me a bit. Of course. Because at the time, I still hadn't gone to L.A. for the full month to stay with

her and do all the media with her and talk about how great our relationship was. You feel like you have wool over your eyes that you didn't know that went on. That's the only part that hurt a little bit. But at the end of the day... Of course it hurt. That'd be weird if it didn't. I would just say that you didn't care at all if it didn't hurt you. I know. And I think just the way I've grown up through this whole thing is I don't want to dwell on it. And I'm so like, As corny as it sounds, I'm, like, a huge believer in when you find the person you want to be with, I'm happy for him. I met Jared. He seems like a great guy.

I don't have any bad feelings towards her. I think I was just more, maybe some people have less relationship experience and don't understand that if an ex-girlfriend professed their love for me. I would have told her. I mean, like, hey, just so you know, this girl from my past came out and she, and I'm thinking about it. Like, maybe just, like, keep me in the loo. Yeah, of course. And, like, she kissed me, by the way. Yeah.

So, I mean. Yeah, I hear you. I just don't want, and I'm not going to, I got, the comment or the, the media request for that after that announcement, because a lot of people put that timeline together. Yeah. And I just denied all the comments because I don't want her to ever get thrown. Right. And, well, I mean, I obviously am friends with her. And we're just, I mean, obviously both of us.

We're very Canadian and polite. We're just telling a story here. Yeah, we're just telling a story. We're just telling the story. And at the end of the day, I'm not just saying this. I'm actually very happy because she is a super romantic person. Yeah. And it's like her little love story.

It's her little love story. And I want her to have that. And she knows that I still care about her as a friend. And I want her to be happy. And it is different because you guys, you're not saying like she was the love of my life. So it is a little different that you can, you can probably be happy for her because of that. And I think after we broke up, there was that little bit of relief as well. Yeah.

Like, you know when some breakups, you're just torn and you're completely heartbroken? And then other breakups, you kind of feel a little bit of relief. Like, oh, that was going to happen eventually anyway. When she broke it off, I remember thinking. This is for the best. Yeah. Better now than later. Right.

I still would be more jealous to see a photo of Jasmine with a boyfriend than I would with Ashley and Jared. Okay. Like I still follow Ashley. I see all of their photos. Nothing bothers me. Right. I'm very happy for her. I just think I'm glad she's growing up a little bit with him because she had a little bit of, she should have told me a little bit more.

Of course. And hopefully, yeah, she learns from that. But man. Yeah, that's rough. It was an interesting winter. Very interesting winter and a probably more interesting summer for you. Summer's good. I can't wait to watch Paradise.

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Also remember to rate and review. Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Do they really have a two-drink limit now or they just let you go ham? I'm on the alcohol. No, it's a limit. Wells is a bit of a stickler. Yeah, he gets his book open, you got your faces in the book. He lets, he lets, you know.

The thing is, they let you have fun. Yeah. I think they just found a way to really make you not cross that line. Right. I definitely had fun. I wasn't like sober and just like boring all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I think they just found a perfect way to get you. I think that's really good. Yes. Because, I mean, some people just cannot handle their alcohol. Exactly. And that's got to be something that's on their radar because that can cause a lot of problems, which it did, obviously, and that's why they've had to, I mean, I can't believe it took like 30, whatever seasons for them to get to this point.

I heard about some of those first nights in the mansion. Oh, it's. Like, some of the guys were like, it was insane. It wasn't yours pretty clean. Weren't the guys like? Yes, there's a guy that, like, grabbed my ass. It was so drunk. He, like, fell out of the pool and his speedo and, like, Chris Harrison had to walk him out and

be like, you're not welcome here. Yeah, he would have if Chris Harrison let him stay, but the guy kicked him out. I was like, hey, where'd that big beauty go? Yeah. Like, that was a good time. John actually loved him, but, I mean, grabbing my butt was crossing the line a bit. But anyways, it was just so, like, people were just blackout, wasted on every season. Like, luckily, I mean, on night one of The Bachelor that I was on, I mean, I didn't even know the first impression rose was right in front of me and I talked about it.

Like, I had no idea because I drank so much tequila. But I was still like, do-d-do, like the next day, like, no. No problem. But yeah, it's, I mean, there was, like, if your drink was half empty, somebody was there to refill it. Oh, that's not the same anymore. And for, I'm talking, like, I don't know how many hours, like 12 hours of that. Like, like your drink was never empty. There was unlimited shots.

Whatever you wanted. They were, producer was right there with it. But, I mean, it was always up to you. Like, they're not, they're not like, yeah, like shoving it down your throat. Like, drink and get drunk. Like, it's up to you. Yeah. But I was wondering that about Paradise.

No, it's good because some people just need two and they're good for the day. True. And then there's other girls. I'll give you one example, Bibiana. Mm-hmm. Like, she's Miami. Like, she's a fun, fun time. Oh, yeah.

But she can handle her alcohol. So she didn't get to that point where she even said, she said, I can get to a certain lit point. I guess I call it the kids call lit these days. Yeah, I think I've said lit like five times this podcast. I'm super ashamed. Yeah, no, that's okay. I'm really embarrassed. I'm better than that.

But there's just a, they haven't figured out. It's actually really good now. Because I can still have a really good time. Yeah. But they know, like, even Wells looked at a couple people a certain time, said, no, I'm going to give you another half an hour. Well, you just chill. What is Wells scared of losing his job as the bartender? No, I think he just.

Was he training the other girl to be a bartender? I don't think so. Oh. She could not do her own. She couldn't. No, no. She could not. She can't bartend.

She can't bartend. She was doing. That's so funny. Did you meet Jorge? Yeah. Is that his name? George, Jorge? It's the same name.

He came in for, he came in, I think he had a Jorge Torhays. Is that what it's called? Oh, I don't know. He does like a tour company. That's why he actually gave up the bar. He has like a huge tourist company. Oh, good for him. And it's very busy because it's all bachelor, like it's a bachelor style thing.

Oh, he is living. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. He came in for an episode. I wish I could just come experience Paradise, not in any way with people, but like, like how Ben, didn't Ben come into like, hand out a date card? No. So I didn't know until I saw Ben last week in Montreal that he was even there.

He was there doing a commercial. Oh. Like him and Ari. I think they did like an actual back to a commercial. But he wasn't allowed to come say hi to us because I wanted to. I would love to just like even be behind the scenes and just like watch a day in paradise just because it's so foreign to me. Like I don't understand paradise.

So there are crabs. Crabb. Yeah. You heard about this? Like the size of my hand, they're everywhere. Really? Five in the shower at once when you're showering. Okay.

No. They were filming me, B-roll, getting ready for a date, and I put my shoes on the bench, and then a crowd the size of my hand came out of my vans. I got my slip-on shoes and just went down the bench. And they videoed it because they caught it perfect timing. They're everywhere. It is like a hand-picked boutique little spot that's so cool. I mean, that would be, yeah. No air conditioning, bunk beds.

Like, it's very cool. My hair would not survive. Girls love the frizz, like, humid. Oh, really? Yeah, but some girls get, like, really beachy, sexy, like, glowy look. I get like drowned rat, like furnace face, red face, and just like, it's not cute when I'm like in humidity. I'm like Monica from Friends. Like it's just, oh, I didn't know what to do.

It's not cute. Are you watching the season of The Bachelor? I just, I kind of binged it. Oh, right, because you're seeing who's on Paradise, right? You already said that. Who do you think? Top three. Or wait, do you know the ending?

I know everything. Okay, then don't tell me. Okay, I'll just leave it. I know the ending to you, but I just, I was going to ask your opinion. You know the ending down, like the whole thing? Like, right? You must. Jordan would have told you.

No, he didn't. I'm actually really good friends with Becca. We text all the time, but I don't want to know who her top. I don't know who her top three are. Okay. I just know who she picks. You know who goes home fourth? No.

Oh. No, no. Or wait, did I see? No, I don't. I get the episodes a little bit early because they're good to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, like, have it for the podcast. But I don't know.

I try to not spoil anything. or read spoilers for myself, but... I kind of love all the guys this year. Not even the ones I've met. First of all, there's one guy on there. Yeah. I'm going to text you after it happens and say, this is the asshole I was telling you about it.

Oh, really? There's one guy that I can't stand. Oh, no. Was he in paradise? Yeah, that's how I know him. Oh. And I bet you I can guess. But you will like him right now.

Yeah, I bet you I can guess. Okay. I'll tell you after. Yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah. There's one, and then there's one friend I definitely made. who's still on Becca season now, and he's like a good friend of mine now. Okay.

Yeah. Okay, I can't wait to. Oh, everybody at home is just like, tell us, but we're like, no. Okay, wait, we haven't confessed yet. It's like the end of the podcast and we haven't confessed. Were you prepped on this that you had to have a confession? Yeah, you know who told me her confession on the phone yesterday? Who?

Vanessa. Her confession landed with everybody. Like, everyone was like, wow, like, slow clap for her confession. She told me it was on the phone. She was like, oh, my gosh. I guess what mine was. And she told me the poop, the pants story. Hilarious.

I couldn't believe. Because, I mean, Vanessa is so put together, and it's just hilarious to hear her about her shitting her pants. But are you guys good friends? Are you, do you have a crush on her? No. Oh. Why is it good?

Well, I kind of do. Well, everyone does. Because she's so, like, gorgeous and fun and Canadian. I was like, oh, that'd be a nice little match for you guys. Well, you post one photo, and that's the comments. I know. I posted one photo with her on Canada Day, and that's all the comments is, how are you two not together yet?

Well, because it makes sense. Yeah, I mean, I just met her. Yeah. I just met her. We shared the same publicist, so I just met her on Canada Day. Yeah. But we hit it off right away. I'm actually going back at the end of the month.

She's doing. She's great. She's doing an event. She's on Fear Factor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's doing a watch party with her and all of her students. Oh, fun. Oh, that's so great.

So I'm flying back for two nights just to do her event with her. Oh, that'll be fun. It's a lot of fun, yeah. Fear Factor. How cool is that? I actually shut that down. Come on. I swear to you.

Why did you not want to do that? I feel like that's right up your alley. Okay, number one. I would have took Sean with you too. I know. Sean's a little bit upset that I turned it down because I honestly was like, I don't know, but I'm like kind of over like, yeah. And I shouldn't say that because if the right opportunity came, I'd probably say like

even Big Brother, I'm like the biggest Big Brother fan and even now I'm like if they asked me to go on the quote unquote celebrity Big Brother, I don't know if I could do it because I'm just so jaded by, like, produced television. And that's insane. Yeah. Like, I'm watching the new one. Are you? Oh, yeah.

I watch every year. Oh, I'm so into it. Oh, my favorite shows. Oh, my God. Can we talk about it? Yeah. It's one of my favorite shows. And then don't think you're getting out of a confession.

But let's just talk about Big Brother 20 for saying it because usually I get super into it. Like, it takes me like maybe like 10 days. I can't get into. Like, I kind of like Tyler. That's like my one, the surfer dude. Yeah. Oh, really? He's like my one guy.

I'm like, I'm kind of in. Fessie guy, like the big... Oh, yeah, he's not bad. Fessie's good. And he's like a college receiver. Like, he's actually like... He's good, actually. I don't mind him.

I'm kind of rooting. It's Fessie, Tyler, and Sam are like my three favorites. Everyone loves Sam. Oh, you don't? No, I said everyone loves Sam. Oh, I thought you said I don't love Sam. No, no, I do. Everyone loves her.

Oh, yeah. You can't not love Sam. Like, if anybody out there doesn't, like, you're a monster. No, I love that show because you can binge watch it in one day. I just have like three or four episodes in a row from the week. I can't watch it every, like, I love the competitive, like, side of it. Yeah. So that's what Winter Games was. That's why I try to tell people if they add in some kind of sports element, it's actually a lot of fun. It would be a lot more fun. I remember Sean being like, oh, I wish they were doing, like, couples that are together because he's obviously super competitive.

But I'm like, no. You're good. I was actually supposed to be there for judging the kissing contest. Were you in that? Oh, I won that. Oh. Why don't I remember this? I remember watching, but I was supposed to be one of the. judges but I was in New York on Broadway and so I had I had to work every single day sometimes two shows a day so I couldn't come out there that was Ari Jojo and Rachel yes were the three judges yeah we won that I was like thanks for winning I don't know yeah I forgot

yeah it's because I grabbed her butt oh yeah yeah and they like and Jojo jumped off and was like booty booty everybody loves a little tush grab yeah that's what it was yeah you sold it with that yeah um wait what were we just oh my god I'm brain dead what were we just talking about Big Brother and Confessions Oh yeah, big brother Big brother, big brother Okay, so who do you think is going to win it all?

And I love that You can't get spoilers because it's live Yeah, you can't It just goes I love that I'm just like the fessy guy Just because he's going to get

into a showmance a little bit Yeah, loamance they call it The low man That's key though Keep that in the DL They won't No, they won't But I don't think he'll win

Because of the low man's Yeah I like that he was the least Popular trending person And then he comes back And then he comes back and wins That's how, yeah I like that too

A little, like, silent thunder. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Who do you got to win? I really think Tyler or Sam right now. Okay. But it's still so early. I'm usually in a Big Brother pool.

Tyler's so harmless that he probably will get far, even like, but he's good. But that's what I mean, he seems like a good dude. Yeah. And he also is like pretty, I mean, he doesn't seem smart, but he is. Yeah. He's like, I don't know. I feel like he plays up the dumb surfer thing, but like in diary rooms and like everything. You can kind of tell.

that he's, he actually kind of knows what he's doing. Also, Winston, he seems like a target just because he seems like he should be like, like a comp beast, but he's not. He's not, no. He's kind of like going under the radar right now. He's kind of floating. Is that what they, the floaters? Oh, yeah.

I want to do that show. I'm telling you, that'd be the only one. If they, I know, that's what I always thought too. I would do it. I'm just like. That Tyler guy, though, how was his intro video? Do you remember? Oh, yeah.

He was like Baywatch running. He's so dumb. So dumb. Yeah. And now you actually get to know him. He's actually pretty smart. But that's what they do, you know? Yeah.

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Yeah. Talking closely, I guess you'd say. And then all of a sudden it's like someone comes in with a date card. Yeah. And it was a new person coming in a paradise for the date card. So obviously, everyone's got to get out of the pool. Right. Are you a boner?

No. Yes. So everyone has to get out of the pool. Everyone has to sit around and like, what's your date card say? Like the typical, you know. I mean, that probably happens a lot. So I'm sitting in the pool. And the girl.

tuck because you're like in a bathing suit. There's no tucking in short short. Oh no. So the girl that I'm like hanging out with, she kind of looks to me. She's like, let's go. I'm like, I can't get out yet. And she's like, why? I'm like, I'm just very happy.

And she actually laughed. Well, I was completely transparent. And I told her that. She laughed a lot. She was the best into humor. She jumped out to the pool and literally everyone else stood out. And I stood in the pool by myself for the date card thing. Oh my God.

They're totally going to show that. Did you stand with your like hands over it? I was very guilty. Like, I was just going to sit there with this guilty kid face on. Oh, that's amazing. But I definitely was very excited that day. And I couldn't get out of the pool or would have made a really good TV. So I stayed in the pool.

Could you imagine they'd, like, have to do the blur, like the black box thing? And then they probably try and make it like a really small black box just to, like, make you feel ashamed of yourself because that's what they do. That's what they do. Oh, that's good. That's a good one? Yeah, that's really good. I think mine's embarrassing just because I'm like, Caitlin, you're 33, like, pull. it together. But mine is that I smoked weed the other night. Okay. Is it legal here?

Tennessee, no. No. That's your confession. You broke the law. Whoops. That's a bigger confession that I meant for it to be. But I was like, I never, I haven't smoked weed since I was like 26. And I was honestly, I looked at one point and I had like eight different tubs of Halo ice cream in front of me and I was just taste testing them all. Oh my God. While making macaroni and cheese, and then I ate, like, 80 almonds while, like, waiting for my macaroni and cheese. And then I melted peanut butter. Okay, why were you by yourself? I wasn't.

Sean was there laughing right at me. Perfect. Laughing at me. A couple goals right there. Yeah, yeah. Melted peanut butter, put it on top of the halo top. Wow. Yeah, I went for it.

And I was like, I was like, this is a low point. So was Sean just like protein shake in the corner? Yeah, exactly. It was a shaker cuff. He was like, well, I got an early morning at the gym, so I'm just going to down the this protein shake and call it a night. I'm like, fuck. That's incredible.

Where did you get all the ice cream? You went after by yourself? Well, Halo Top was very generous and sent me like an unbelievable amount of ice cream. And I'm like, oh, it's Halo Top. Like, it's so healthy. This is your sample, all of them? I honestly looked. I think there was eight different open tubs.

And I was just like, like, taste testing each one. And Sean was like, what are you a friggin' taste tester for Halo Top? And I just like died laughing. It was a low point, though, because I'm like, Caitlin, pull your life together, okay? Just because you're having a rough week doesn't mean you get to be a stoner like you're 20 again. Was this not ad worthy for the ice cream? Yeah, Halo Top. Reach out to me.

I'll tell you about it. No, I feel like Sean recording you would have been fantastic for that. I know. At the time, I'm like, I don't want people to know I smoked weed. That's so embarrassing. Now I'm like, screw it. It's a confession. It's legal in Canada.

It's legal and I'm Canadian. So, basically. It comes with you. It's with your passport. Oh, my God, that's so embarrassing, though. Like, I honestly, I think I said out loud, I was like, this is a low point. I'm just crushing so much Halo Dom. Okay, we're going to play one quick game of would you rather.

Okay. Maybe answer some questions. Where do you get these from? Where do you rather? Right out of my brain. Your brain. Yeah, right out of my dome. Okay.

Yep. You ready for this one? What terms do you use on your podcast that people ask you? Like, you say chirp? Like, what else do you say? I said chirp all the time on, um, when I was on The Bachelor. Oh, you did?

Yes, and people always commented, and they're like, what's chirp mean? That's so funny. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, it's so Canadian. Like, I always said chirp. I remember when there's one guy that, like, he kissed me night one. And I was like, oh, man, that guy's got wheels. Oh, you said wheels.

And people didn't be, and they showed it. I was like, I can't believe they aired me saying that because I'm like, do people even know what that means if somebody's got wheels? No, they don't know that. It just means you're smooth. You're wheeling. You're wheeling. You're wheeling.

And if you are not smooth, your wheels are square. Yeah, I was just wondering. I say chirp all the time. I do too. I think people know now with me what chirp means. I go home to Canada and get kind of refreshed up on my lingo. Yeah, totally. To like L.A. or something.

They're only like, what do you say? Cherp. Yeah, exactly. I know it's so funny Canadians, I tell you. I'll tell you. Okay, would you rather? Are you ready? Yep.

Ready. How aggressive. Would you rather save Jasmine or Ash and I from a burning building? I'm just kidding. You don't have to answer. What from a bird? You incorporated my job? And your two ex-girlfriends, yes.

Okay. Oh, you have an answer. I have an answer. Okay. Even though I don't speak to her anymore, I would save Jasmine. Okay. Because I would hope Jared is there to save Ashley. Okay, great answer.

Okay. Because I was like, you don't have to answer that. That's pretty rude. But that's a great answer. There you go. Yeah, you're so Canadian. All right. Would you rather be the bachelor and not find love or be homeless on the streets and in love?

I would rather be homeless on the streets, poor, and fucking done in love than anything else. Yes. 100%. Definitely. Yeah, especially after you hear my stories about being the lead. You're like, yeah, I'm okay.

I'm okay. I'll be homeless, thanks. I'm good. Okay, would you rather have Chris Harrison's job or Wells bartending job for the rest of your career? Chris Harrison's job, hands down. Give me a private jet to a golf course

and then I'll come in with a day card and then go skiing the next day. And then be the host of Miss America. And then millionaire. Yeah. Like all these fun. I know. He's really good.

And he's a great family. And he's just like the most fun guy. I couldn't say enough things, enough nice things about Chris Harrison. Yeah, me too. Just love the guy. Would you rather be a bachelor producer like one of the really dark ones? Or a contestant who was made to look like an absolute idiot. I'd rather be a producer.

I think the producer job is besides firefighting, like one of my, I would love. No, Kevin. I would love. No, you're too nice. You don't have to be the, no, you can be a nice one. No, you can be nice, but you still have like a really black heart. like you're like no they're not all that bad no they're not all but 99% of them I just feel like when I watch them work I'm envious a little bit of like this is a pretty cool gig it's like creative it's like

it is creative click and I'm gonna see if we can get them over here and they are somewhat of matchmakers and they can really bring out the best in people they can also bring out the worst they can bring out emotions in people they're very talented and some of them are dear friends of mine yeah but I think I just had such a rough go on my season that I'm like meh but I'm not but I'm I'm starting to get over it. It's been three years. It's been a couple years. You're good.

Therapy. You're good. Can I be like one of those nice ones that doesn't have to like bring down the boom? You'd have to be. Okay. Yeah. Then that did. You'd have to be.

Okay. Would you rather get a huge tattoo of your face on your butt or a tiny tattoo of your butt on your face? This is where my brain goes, by the way. I would, as long as I can wear a tuxedo at my wedding, I'll tattoo anything. So I'm going to say keep my face in hands. Good. Okay, questions for Kevin. This is the Twitter question?

Yes. All right. Well, we've already talked about some of this. Carissa wants to know what you think of Ashley being engaged. I feel like we already touched on that, too. I feel like I have a... I'm laughing because I just already want to jump to the next one. Mary Elizabeth wants to know if you took Ashley's V card.

You don't have to answer this. I just think it's funny because it's very fair for... If somebody, like, her virginity was such a... a thing on all the shows that if you asked somebody that that wasn't like yeah but that's what her story was right you don't have to answer that so i'll i will answer it okay because i love every listener and person on twitter who responds to me um i did not sleep with her in the fantasy suite oh um and that was always the question right right when the show was on yeah and that's what like reality steve even said i was on in the fantasy suite and it never happened oh so it happened

after. No, no, I didn't say that. I just mean we were in a relationship after, so assume what you want. But I just know that, like, when the actual show was on, we did not sleep together. And that's people's main question. And then we were together after. Okay. Take it for what it is.

Assume what you want. Yes. And by the way, I'll never speak on another girl's sex life or virginity. That's, like, the worst thing ever. Yeah. It's been the hardest thing for me to, like, dodge around at all time. And count on Caitlin to make you real uncomfortable. There we go.

Feed you wine and make you uncomfortable. Yeah. Is Karen Murphy wants to know, is there any significance to your tattoos or are they random, especially love the stars and palm tree? Yeah, so every tattoo I got came from somewhere. The palm tree was the day I decided to leave the military. That was on the cover of the newspaper in Abu Dhabi. And that's when I was deployed. I just finished my tour in the Arabian Gulf.

I just got my war metal from Afghanistan. And when I was in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, that palm tree was on the front of the newspaper. And that was the day I decided. I decided to leave to become a firefighter. So I cut it out, put it in my wallet, and said one day I'll tattoo that on me, and I did like two years later. Oh, that's a great story. And each star represents different things. One was the first time I sailed across the equator.

One was 5,000 miles at sea. Everything is Navy-related so far. Okay. And I leave my right arm open for my future family. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I love that. I actually wanted, I have, I'm like, I love tattoos.

Yeah. And I wanted to have a sleeve so badly. I almost got one before the show. You did rock a sleeve for sure. Oh, I'm going to. I almost got one before the show. and I'm like, I don't think they would have taken me if I did do that, but I always had a plan. Like, I have a whole design.

Really? Oh, yeah. Black and gray? Yes. Nice. Black gray and a pirate themed? Nice. You got a pirate chip?

You do? Yeah, a huge one on my form. Oh, what? I didn't know that. I forgot in Hawaii. It's a sailor Jerry original with a Canadian flag. Okay, that's amazing. Canadian flag is in the American.

Send me your tattoo guy. Okay, I will. He's in Pearl Harbor. Oh. So we just head to Hawaii quick. Just a quick trip. That's fine. I like going there.

Obviously, your favorite, like somebody asked what your favorite show was to be on out of all three, I'm assuming, Paradise. Bachelor of Canada, for sure. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. Only because it was the first time. You know that, like, very first time's the greatest? Yeah.

I hear you. Your first. It's always the greatest. Anyways. Oh, Sarah Strum wants to know your best firefighter story. Um, there's probably not great firefighting story. Well, do you want to get, well, no. So, I mean, we have a very, we have a very.

Saving somebody's life probably is, yeah, I think the number one, it was on my birthday. And I remember Jasmine was flying from Vancouver to Toronto the next day to visit me for my birthday. Um, and a girl overdosed on fentanyl. And it was 8 a.m. It was my birthday. I always take my birthday off work, but I decided to work that day. Yeah. And I ended up with my crew.

We gave her CPR. She was 26. and we saved her. She was fully dead for four minutes, and she was fully alive in the ambulance with me by the time we were done with her. Wow. That's wild.

And that was on my birthday. So that's like, that's the most high. You're talking about being high. That is the highest you can get for the longest. I think a week straight, I was high on that. That's so crazy.

Like, the stories you must have, but it also must be really challenging to like shut your brain off. Yeah. From good and bad. Yeah. I've actually experienced in paradise,

I realized without therapy. Yeah. I didn't have therapy there. And I really, They should get you that. I think they probably would have. Like, there was a doctor. I think you're just in the moment so much that you don't think you need it.

And then you'll get into a certain interview with a certain producer and you'll realize, frick, I need some therapy. And my job just, it kind of accumulates in your brain of the things we see are pretty rough. You just know that everybody who calls 911, unless it's a violent crime, we go first. Yeah, that you're the first responders. It doesn't matter what it is. Right. So we see a lot. It's not just fires.

People always think it's just fires that you go to. 75% are medical calls. That's wild. Yeah. That must be so tough. I mean, like I said, like I know a couple guys who do that in Vancouver, and I was like, the stories. Yeah.

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Okay, that's just crazy. Those are my two numbers, if you want to know, Lindsay. I'm like, I can, like, maybe do, like, 20 pounds. You can do more than 20 pounds. Really? Yeah. If you can do one, you can do one. Yes.

I feel like if you're engaged to Sean, you better be able to do one. I can do one. You better be able to do a push up. I don't know about two, but I can, I can do one. Do you remember Sean and I had that plank content? Oh, yeah. Did you win? I don't think I don't think I really counted for him that.

Yeah, he was kind of, yeah. Yeah, he was like, yeah. I do remember that, though. Yeah. Maddie wants to know. He tweeted about International Women's Day, and I'm curious who is the strongest woman that has influenced him the most. Okay.

That's a good question. I tweeted about it because I, like, I feel like, can I go super cheese for a second? Yeah, of course. Like, the thing is, I hate when it's true and cheese because you have to identify that as cheesy. You don't have to. But I feel like my, like my mom. All the listeners love cheese here, by the way. But I feel like my mom growing up because she had two boys.

big athlete boys. My mom's 5-1. Yeah. You know, with, I'm 6-1, my brother's 6-4, and we're like big athletes. And it's always just, and she was at every hockey arena, every football game, every baseball game. She was mom goals. She's mom goals. Yeah. And just, you know, get off her 9 to 5, make sure she gets me to hockey on time and everything. She was always my number one. Yeah. But the crazy part is, now that I'm 34, it's like every girl that's a significant part of my life has kind of motivated and inspired me in their own way.

Yeah. Like, you know, a girlfriend of five years before I broke up with her, because I knew it wasn't forever. Right. And then I was cast for the show, like a year later, and I realized it's all kind of from her. Yeah. And then Jasmine, even though it didn't work out, that was the first girl I ever proposed to,

and I still love her. Like even right now, I still have love for her. I just feel like every girl along the way gives me a little more. That's a good thing to take from it, though, because a lot of guys get bitter and, like, defensive, but I feel like if you can just learn from each, because I feel like I've learned from each relationship, too,

like from guys. But if you can, like, acknowledge that with the, women that you've dated in your life. I think that's great. Well, I feel like the girl that I end up with now, whether I'm with her now or not, I can't tell you. But I feel like the guy that I'm giving her, I think, is the best me I've ever been. And it all goes back to the first girl that broke my heart, the first girl I broke her heart, the first, you know, all those relationships and I learned from it. And someone like Jasmine, that was my first real heartbreak. Yeah. But I respect her for it because it wasn't right. It wasn't meant to be. And the girl that I hopefully marry

soon or like. Or later. Or later. Oh, no. Never. I feel like it's, it all kind of stemmed from each relationship. So I kind of, you know, I felt like that post was kind of dedicated to all of them. That's really, that's really nice. I don't even think it's cheesy. I just think it's nice. And Karen Harrison, which by the way, her name. I love when you laugh when you read it.

Because they're so funny. Like, first of all, this girl's last name is Harrison and her picture on Twitter is roses. If he had to jello wrestle Jared, who would win and what flavor jello would he choose? We're ending it with that question. That's too good. Wait, is that a real thing? Yeah. If I had to jello wrestle Jared.

First of all, no one would beat me in jello wrestling. Jared especially. Yeah. So if Jared wanted to do it for charity, I will gladly jello wrestled joy. Oh, I'm going to set this up. Live podcast. Live podcast, Jello wrestling. Yes.

Kevin versus Jared. What flavor are you taken? I guess just strawberry? What's the red? No. Is there even a, is there even a, fruit? Or it's just red, purple? Have you ever had watermelon jello?

I've never really had jello. Oh, well, you're missing out my friend. Wait, what color is that one? It's like pink. Oh, okay. We'll go watermelon and Jared, you're going down. Okay, I'm setting this up, just so you know, in the least creepiest way possible. For the winner's charity.

What charity? I will do the burn unit or the sick kids in Toronto. Okay. Jared, if you're out there. Yes. Tell us your charity, and I am making this happen. Nashville. I'm going to have a big montage thing like Rocky, getting ready for it.

Yep. In Nashville. Sean can referee. Sean is definitely the referee. He might even need to take off his shirt and jump in. Just to separate things for a couple seconds. Okay, we can do that, yeah. Just to recharge the batteries. You can do that.

What a great question in a weird way. I'm really happy that that person asked that because this is all going to come to life. Yeah, and it's going to be a live podcast. Obviously with cameras, because what would be the point of Jell Wrestling without cameras? Was there any questions I missed on there that you wanted to answer? Um, whatever. I can't, I was like just trying to skim through them. No, that's okay.

I can't. I don't know if I missed any. If you want to answer, please be my ghost. I think one funny one is, is his mom actually that mean? Oh, yeah. Which, of course she's not. Can I just say, like, um, as much as I love and respect the fact that I signed up for this thing, and it's got me so much great experience. Yeah.

And it's some amazing people. There are, it still is entertainment. Yeah. So if everybody was. rainbows every day, it would be a very boring show. Plus, your mom's probably so worried about you. And my mom and Jasmine had a, like, she loved a Jasmine. Yeah.

The whole, so it's, yeah. It is what it is. They can make the families look however the hell they want. It is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. Your mom's not mean. Otherwise, you wouldn't respect her so much. Yeah, I think she's a lovely lady.

Yeah, and also, I'm a little bit guilty, too. Before we had hometowns, I got a quick talk with her, like right outside. And I just said, I said, don't take it easy on her and be cheesy boring. And I realized after, I'm like, frick, you're like, you set that up. I spiraled her in the wrong direction. She was like, okay, I'm going to be hard on her. Yeah, I think that's what she kind of thought. And if you've never been on TV before, you don't even think about editing, you don't think about what you're saying.

You have no idea. Yeah. And if I brought a girl home after five weeks and said, I might marry her, I might propose to her next week. That was a normal mom. Sean always said that. Sean's like, if my daughter came home, I was like, this is the guy I'm going to marry and I met him for five seconds. He's like, I'd be a huge dick. Yeah.

It's just because you care. So your mom's not mean. she's just loving and cares. And got caught up in the moment. A lot of cameras, first time ever and got a little caught up. And a lot of people are like, what are they talking about?

Because it's a Canadian bachelor and they don't get it in the States, which they should because it's a good. Right. So my mom was just to let everyone know, my mom was a little bit of like, not the villain, but she was like the harder,

the harsher, like the Jojo brothers. Yeah, but it's so funny. Yeah, but it's funny because at the end of the day, it still wasn't bad. It was just that Canadians can't handle like the harshness. A little bit of harshness.

No, It was all good, and she's fine from it now, yeah. I mean, I bet that was actually really hard for her, too. It was. Do you have any jokes? Any good jokes? No. What kind of, I...

Anything. Knock, knock, like, funny... Anything. I'm sick of coming up with all my own material. Well, you're the talent. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, this is my job. That's my damn job.

I love how I'm scrolling through these Twitter questions. What? And there's like... Would you see a new one? Oh, would you go on this show? Do you like this? And then it's like, did you take Ashley's ear speaker? It's like, that's where your eyes went to be like, I need to read this one.

I know. So good. That's what I went to. I was like, uh, do I have this one? Okay, I'm... Are we ready for jokes? Here's my joke. What do the mafia and vaginas have in common?

What? One slip of the tongue and you're a deep... Still funny. Okay. Okay, Kevin, you go. That's really bad. It's bad. Okay.

I like it. I like when it's so bad. It's good. Okay. What is the difference between a golf ball and a G-spot? What? A man will actually look for a golf ball. Yay!

We did it. By the way, you always look for the G-spot. By the way, I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy. Thank you so much for coming on the pod. I'm worried about your little. in Nashville, but let me know how it all turns out for you. Send out some high tens.

Also, huge shout out to Kevin. He brought me two huge bags of ketchup chips, which I have been craving for the, like, ever since Canada today, which for everybody out there was July 1st. Yeah. Thank you so much. You're welcome. You really made my week. I went out late last night.

I was like, can't bring her protein because that's weird. And it would be stinky in my bag. It would be pretty gross by the time you got here. Yeah. Catchup chips were the right call. Yeah. I'm Caitlin Bristow, and I will see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Off The Vine with Caitlin Briscoe.

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