Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Lauren Akins
Episode Date: May 1, 2018Kaitlyn is joined by Lauren Akins, wife of country star Thomas Rhett, to discuss her journey to adoption and then birth, working with orphans in Uganda, and life on tour with her husband and ...family. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Podcast One presents Off The Vine with Caitlin Bristow.
Caitlin is creating a space where girls and gents
can feel empowered to be themselves.
Get ready for lots of laughs.
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Here's Caitlin.
Welcome to Off the Vine.
I'm your host, Duh, Caitlin Bristow.
So excited to take.
have Lauren Atkins in the studio today.
Did I just say Atkins?
No, you said Atkins.
I said, okay.
I say Aiken's.
Do you say Aiken's?
I say Aiken's, but I think that our family is the only family that pronounces it Aiken.
Stop.
I'm not kidding.
I always make fun of myself for butchering people's names.
It's like a thing.
You didn't butcher.
On my podcast and I was like double checking.
I even asked Sean.
He's like, no, it's Atkins.
No, it is.
I mean, it's, however you want to say it.
Aikens, Ackons.
But you say Aikens.
I say the hard A.
Well, then I'm going Aikens.
because that's how you say it.
All right.
I'd be down for that.
If someone called me Caitlin Bristowie, I'd be like, excuse you.
I'm going to pour us a little wine.
Again, you said you have never been to the winery in Nashville.
No.
Now, why is that?
All of my friends have.
It's so beautiful there.
I didn't ever, like, when I moved to Nashville, I was like, Sean was telling me, here you go.
Thanks.
Sean was telling me that there was a winery.
And I'm like, really in Nashville?
And then I thought it was city winery, like the restaurant.
And I'm like, that's not a winery, babe.
And then he took me to it.
And I was like, oh, my gosh, it's beautiful.
It's amazing.
From what I've seen and heard.
Yeah.
I was really impressed with it.
And we're really big winos, and we've not been.
Interesting.
I know.
We want to.
We want to go.
We don't have anything against it.
We just have seriously not, I don't know.
We don't do fun things anymore.
Well, you're a little busy.
I get why you don't now.
But before, if you ever have the time, which you probably never will, pack a picnic
and go out there on like a sunny little afternoon.
Yeah.
You would love it.
You'd absolutely love it.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for being here.
Thanks for having me.
I've met you twice.
Yeah.
Both times on red carpets.
Yeah, like in passing.
Yeah, in past.
I'm like, hey.
Because, okay, so when Sean was on the show, he used to come over to your guys' place
and watch.
And I just found this out today.
He was like, ask her about, well, I knew he'd go over to your guys' house to watch, but he's like, ask her what that was like watching it, knowing, or not knowing that you picked me.
With no idea.
I thought you guys would have known.
No.
I mean, okay, based on his reactions, we were like, oh, dang, like, he totally gets far.
Like, he's really invested in this girl.
Right.
And we were like, maybe this is a bad idea that we invited him over here to do this.
Yeah, because it gets real.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Chris Stranberg was over with us, too, a lot when he was living in Nashville.
And we loved the show and just, like, seeing all the different things that they do every week.
And, like, talking like, oh, my gosh, what do you think it is when Chris Harrison's, like, giving you the teaser for next week?
What does it mean?
And they would just, like, they would never tell us anything.
And we were like, right.
But, yeah, I just, I remember him getting, like, really a couple of times he was like, he would casually walk out of the room.
and I was like, do you think he knows something's about to happen?
And it would be like some dramatic something.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
And then when we found out, I was like, poor guy.
Like, he's just sitting in a room full of people that have no idea.
Yeah.
I felt so bad for him.
And I was like, dude, like, if we were ever annoying or like clearly not giving you space
and be like, tell us more, tell us more.
Well, he came over there.
He knew there he was getting himself into.
That's funny.
Yeah, that's funny that he would get up and leave the room.
there'd be certain times because we had pre-screen I would get the episodes like three days before
they actually aired yeah so I'd have time to like talk through the episode I'd be able to like go on
FaceTime and show him the whole thing because you never know how it's going to be edited yeah so
I'm watching it for the first time being like whoa I didn't say that about that person or like this
is so crazy yeah so I can't imagine watch it I didn't know he wasn't telling anybody I thought like
him going over to your guys's place I thought you guys knew did you have any idea no I'm
I mean, we knew he went far.
Yeah.
Because we were like, he's like really emotional.
Yeah. emotionally invested.
Yeah. And Chris was not as much.
So I was like, okay, he makes it further than yes, totally.
But, yeah, I know, I know.
But we had so much fun with it.
I don't know how much fun Sean actually.
Well, if he kept coming over every Monday night, he was having some sort of fun.
That's right.
That's funny.
I always felt so like left out because obviously nobody could know.
I couldn't go come over and watch it with you guys.
I'm stuck at my apartment in Vancouver crying in a corner.
Not awesome.
It's awesome now, but not then.
I was writing my notes for this podcast.
I'm like, this might come on a little strong, but I'm going to bring it.
I'm going to say it anyways.
I feel like you're just the kind of woman that I would look up to.
Oh, my gosh.
Sorry, it's like I'm going there right off.
Like, this is aggressive.
But you just, you have like, you have a voice.
you have a platform you use it in such a beautiful way uh i feel like you're super humble like sean
and me like oh you would just love her like you're just they just pumped your tires the
whole time they would talk about you like they just adored you and then just following on instagram
and seeing certain things i'm just like wow like i do these things on instagram called realstagram
where i'll just post like yeah you know but there's something um just like so beautiful about
not having to do that like I have to try I have to remind myself and be like hey let's like post
one with no makeup and like let's you know I'm not going to edit this one and I'm going to sit
this certain way and I like I have to like point it out but there's something just more beautiful
about not even having to do that and just being yourself and and to me you are just yourself
and you're very comfortable in who you are and that's like the most beautiful thing to me
that's so sweet sorry am I creepy that's like the nicest thing anyone's ever said
Oh, well, it's true, though.
Well, you don't live with me.
I'll tell you that.
Well, come talk to me after a room case.
You have to be human to some point, okay?
Because I know you're like super sweet and humble, but there's got to be something.
I'm like, what don't you put on Instagram?
Tell us all because you can't be perfect.
Sorry.
Oh, that's awesome.
But I just, everything you deal with your platform is incredible.
You're literally changing the world.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, I wouldn't go that far.
No, you are.
You give yourself that credit.
You do that.
But anyways, yeah, I just always remember Sean and Megan saying that, and I was like, man, I need to hang out with this girl more often.
I know.
Not just on red carpets.
I know.
Red carpets are so not the chill, though.
Yeah, no.
No, not chill at all.
Not chill.
That's what I do.
Oh, sounds like Nashville.
I was interviewing people on the carpet.
And it's just, it's so funny being on this side of interview.
like even during this podcast or on red carpets or something because I know what it's like
to be interviewed and I usually don't like all the most typical questions.
So I try so hard to not be a typical person like who interviews people and just asks like all the same questions.
Right.
But at the same time like you kind of got to give the people what they want.
That's true.
Anyways.
Speaking of using your platform to make a difference, let's talk about your jewelry line.
Oh yeah.
Tell us everything.
because it's called Love One, right?
Yeah, so Love One International is the organization.
I serve on the board of that organization,
and one of my very best friends is the founder.
Okay.
So we created these necklaces, the jewelry, to raise money for that.
And I teamed up with Lady Bird jewelry.
Have you ever been in H. Audrey?
No.
In the Hill Center?
No.
Okay, well, she sells her stuff in there.
and I actually found her because I was looking for a wedding gift for my sister
and I wanted just to buy her a nice piece of jewelry something she could remember from that day
and I found her jewelry and I had no idea that it was Emily who worked at H. Audrey and so I'm sitting
there talking to Emily and I'm like where did y'all find this designer? I'm like oh my gosh these
pieces are beautiful and so I became obsessed and I don't even know if it was the first time I went in
there um at some point I looked at I was like who who is the designer and she and nobody would say
anything and I was like what it's like what do you not want to say and Emily was like it's me it's me
I'm the designer and I was like what oh that's sweet and so um from then on I would just text her
and be like hey I'm looking for a gift for um our manager or you know
know just the really special gifts and um when i um had both of the girls thomas ret
gave me um a ring for each of the girls and i wear them all the time i mean her jewelry is just
it's so beautiful but it's also something that i don't really ever take off i'm so bad with my jewelry
i will i'll i'll misplace it somewhere especially these days i can't keep a hold of my brains but i just
love her stuff. And so, and I was like, okay, and I got, I started thinking, like, I would love to
get with you and design a piece that is, that means something to me and that maybe could mean
something for other people, too, that maybe we could, you know, put the proceeds toward Love One
International. And when we presented the idea to Emily, she was like, yes, I would love to do that,
absolutely. And so we came up with this, this necklace, and it's just the symbols.
It's got a heart and a plus sign and a one.
That's so cute.
And tell us the meaning behind that, because I know because I watched your Instagram story,
but tell us the meaning behind how you came up with that name.
So the previous name was 147 million orphans.
Which, by the way, just random.
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I have a sweater.
I know.
Okay.
I should have wore it today.
I, like, found it at...
A red one, right?
Yes.
And I found it at a thrift store.
And I was like, that's the comfiest looking hoodie I've ever seen.
So I got it and then everybody was like, oh my gosh.
Yeah.
But they knew it was...
And everyone was messaging me, yeah, about you.
And I was like, that's weird.
Yeah.
So the co-founder of 147 million orphans, Suzanne, she texted me.
And she was like, um, Kailen Bristow is wearing our hood.
hoodie. I was like, what? And it was like a thing among like everybody at 147 because everybody
was like, how did she get this? Is she a fan? Do we know? Yes, but I didn't realize I was.
Like, I didn't even realize that's what the hoodie said. Yeah, yeah. So that's so funny. It started off
as that. And honestly, they, so they started that organization nine years ago. And it was when her and
Gwen were both going through their adoptions and their families. And they wanted just to raise
awareness for like the orphan crisis and and adoptions. And so they started to raise money for actually
Katie Davis who lives over in Uganda. They initially started to raise money for her. She
adopted little girls in Uganda. She lives over there now with her husband. They just had a baby not
too long ago um but it started off with her and then katy just kind of took off and so suzanne and gwen
kind of pulled away and and um really just remained good friends with her and but people you know still
kept donating money to 147 and um so then they transformed into 147 million orphans that you know
is providing care for vulnerable children around the world yeah um but when um as time went on
and especially when we came on board, I started talking about it and I had more eyeballs on me and ears listening and people started looking at the name and they were like, oh, assuming we facilitated adoption.
And that's not at all what we do.
But then they both had adopted from Uganda.
I was actually adopting from Uganda.
So it was like clearly sending a message to people.
They were like, wait a second, what?
So love one when we kind of re-adjusted and we're, her main thing, and this is kind of how I explain it to everyone too is like, and this is what I said on my Instagram the other day, you look at the world and like the kids in the world and you're like, okay, there's so much need.
It's like such a huge, it's an overwhelming need that if you look at it all as a whole, you're like, there's.
is nothing that we're going to do that's going to make a difference right there's nothing we can do
to fix that right so the idea behind love one is like okay maybe we can't put a huge dent in
the entire thing right now but we can love the one in front of us for sure like that's easy
yeah and whether that's um in uganda where we serve a lot of the time or maybe you have
another country that you prefer to serve in or maybe it's somewhere in the u.s or um even
like some of my best friends are teachers around the city in Nashville and like the things that
they're doing and their students lives is huge making such a bit yeah yeah and it's like okay so maybe
we can't fix all of them with just one of us but like if all of us team up and everybody loves the one
in front of them like what what huge difference can we make a massive one truly and so that's why
we we kind of rebranded to Love One International and we're still serving the same kids in
Uganda and doing the same things. But I think it's a clearer message. I think it's really
helping to show everybody while we're here, while we do what we do. And that everybody can do it,
whether you go to Uganda or not. Everybody can jump on board that mission. Absolutely. Have you
always been involved in stuff like this? Or like since you were little, have you had this passion?
Well, yeah, I think so. I always, for whatever reason, I always wanted to go to Uganda. Like out of all the
countries in the world i don't know if that's a thing but i we never had the money just to go
to you know third world especially over in africa i mean africa is like a serious commitment to
go over there um and so i did more like local work like with my high school with the churches
where did you grow up and where so i grew up north of the city and gillotsville oh yeah um and me and
my husband both went to good pasture the school um north of
town but so like through them we would serve in the city and and and then through our churches we did
a lot and I loved doing counseling every summer I was a counselor and then I moved to Texas one summer
and um to work at um a camp called Pine Cove and Tyler Texas and so that's where I met Suzanne's
nephew Landon who became one of my very best friends and um
I had known about 147 million orphans, just because they were based out of Brentwood.
We have a lot of mutual friends that know each other, so I knew who they were.
But I'd always wanted to go travel, I think, and that's why I chose nursing in college.
I thought, like, my dream was to do something with, like, doctors without borders.
Okay.
And so I knew that was my passion, but I never had the ability to go and do.
and then I married Thomas Wrette and then I didn't really have the time to go and do.
But thankfully, your schedule changed a little.
Yes.
Yeah, we were on the road a lot.
Yeah.
Sharing a bunk with 11 other dudes on a bus and it was a lot of fun.
What a life.
Yeah.
So I just never, I just thought, well, maybe that was just a dream that, I don't know,
maybe it just is something that's not going to happen for me.
And when his second album was coming out, Landon was actually living in Turkey at the time.
He had come home for like three days.
And of all the people in Nashville that he worked out of time to see, I was one of them.
And I was like, oh my gosh, I would kill just to have five minutes with you.
I just, you know, hadn't seen him in so long.
So we started talking and he was like, the Lord has just really put you on my heart.
And I feel like, I know I've told you this since we became friends at Panko, but he was like, dude, you have got to meet my aunt.
like Landon like what is it he was like I don't know but I just feel like there's something there
and I was like fine fine fine so he like connected us through an email and he was like they're going
to Haiti in a couple of weeks and I was like oh my gosh I was like first of all I don't know any
of these people right second of all it's Haiti like it's not like I can just call up Thomas
and be like hey can you send the bus down here like this is my cup of tea right and um not to mention
his album was coming out and if you know Thomas Redd at all like he
can be fairly anxious around big projects and that was like his baby at the time yeah exactly and he was
going to be like on late night shows and and morning shows and in LA and New York and yeah it was a lot and
yeah and he was not inexperienced but new wish at the time and it was a lot and so I was like okay
well he'll be my way out for sure um and when I went to talk to him about it I was like hey babe
you know they're taking this trip to Haiti it's it's Landon's aunt and they actually told me
they'd hold me a spot, but like, I don't know any of these people.
I don't even really know what they're doing over there.
It's medical trips.
Like, I can use my nursing, but he was like, babe, I think you should go.
And I was like, what?
I was expecting you to, like, hold me back.
Don't make me chase my dreams.
So, anyways, I end up going on this trip.
And seriously, first of all, Landon was right.
Suzanne and I are like two sisters that have just been separated for 25 years and then found each other.
Yes. And so on our flight back from Haiti, I told her, I said, listen, this is why I'm here. I know it. Like, whatever you do, wherever you go from here on out, if you book a flight, book me one with you. And she was like, I don't know if you want to do that. She was like, it's not real glamorous. Like, Uganda is forever away. And it can be expensive. I mean, it's an investment. And I was like, I know. But like, this is why I'm here. Like, this is it. I found it. Like, this is.
is this is it.
Yeah.
And so she was like, okay, all right.
Game on.
Yeah.
And so from then on, I've been on every trip.
The one I didn't get to go on with her was last year because of the baby.
Right.
And a lot of people, when people knew I was podcasting with you, a lot of people have asked, like,
how does she stay so humble and grounded when they also live this, like, glam Hollywood style?
And I'm like, I think that's probably why, you know, like you do stuff.
like this and you go on these trips and you you are helping other people along the way and
I'm like yeah no wonder you're so grounded well I mean you do you just I'll tell you a quick
story that like I remind myself of all the time and this might be good for everyone listening
across the world but so some of the little kids in Uganda they love to get a hold of my phone
and they've never seen snow they don't really know what it is so I was trying to explain to them
what snow was and I remember one day we were like sitting in the gravel and this big plane was
flying over and then so they started asking about the airplanes and and things that we drive and
things that we do and so then we started talking about cars and so I had a video of me driving
in the snow in my Jeep and I'm showing them the video and I'm explaining what a snowflake is and like
I'm like you know it's like rain but it's frozen it's really cold because they don't really even
use ice you know and so um they're just like all just like glued to my phone screen they're like
wow asking all these questions and then um i started talking about something else and i mentioned
something something in the garage and they were like oh um what's a garage and i was like well it's
you pull your car in there and your car stays in it it keeps it you know from weather things and
one of the little boys looked at me he was like oh so you have a house for your car and i was like
oh yeah like that's exactly what it is yeah it's just you think about the difference in in
what they experience and the difference in like our lives i mean even just you know like walking
red carpets and it's just such it's it's totally different worlds and it feels so um it's confusing
yeah honestly like people could ask me questions all day long and a lot of times i don't even
have a good answer sometimes you know it's just like you come
kind of just do what you feel is the best, what you've got, and, man, you know, and then you go
back to like, well, what do we really need? Right. What do I actually need? I think about
the whole time. Yeah, I know. I mean, it's human nature to like want things and do things and
love and whatever, but it's just, it's a different experience when you're close with people that
have a totally different life. But at the same time, like, you know, you can paint this picture
that they don't have some of the things that we have but if you've ever gone over and
spent time with them oh my word they are just the most joyful people isn't that i've i've
heard that so many times and i see it you know of friends that go and do those kinds of things too
and i'm like they're the happiest most joyful little children because all they know is love like
yeah it's so sweet and special and i'm like that's that's probably so refreshing um in a way
to go over there and do what you do
and that's obviously how you found
one of the loves of your life
I mean
tell me if I'm cutting you off
but I just can't wait to hear the story of your
adopting Willa Gray because
what a sweet little gem
She is something
Is she a character like just
Oh my gosh like you have never
Everybody's like uh that's a two year old
I'm like no I will give you my two year old
And let you tell me if that's just a two year old
Like, she is something else.
She really is.
She's brilliant.
She's beyond brilliant.
Wow.
And I have not even come to that on my own, like, conclusion.
Like, that has been my girlfriends and people around us that are like, what did she just say?
Or, like, she remembers that from when?
And she's just, she's two.
She's almost two and a half.
But she's like, I mean, she's so smart.
Wow.
And she's, oh my gosh, she's so strong-willed, so hard-headed.
I mean, and very independent.
I mean, she will, like, do something huge one day, like, run some company and take down all of it.
I mean, she's like, that is her band.
She's going to do big things.
Yes, she will.
Did you always plan on doing adoption from doing the kind of work that you do?
Or was this, like, out of the blue?
Yeah.
So, I, my mom is actually adopted, but she's a white girl and with white parents.
So looking at her family, you wouldn't go, oh, she's adopted.
Right.
So it's different than Willa Gray for sure because you look at her with us and you go, oh, something
happened there, you know.
But I am a product of an adopted family.
And it's a very normal thing for me and my siblings and my mom especially.
So I'd always, it's always just been a normal thing for me.
Right.
I think a lot of people look at it like, oh, gosh, what happened?
like what what made you have to adopt or like what went wrong you know they just assume it's some
negative something that and I from the way I grew up it was just like my mimi and granddaddy were
my mimi and granddaddy and my mom was my mom and they were their family and now we're brought
into that family and it was just very normal for me so I think um as I grew up I think that was
something I always entertained the thought of because I thought it was really cool
yeah it is and i'd mentioned it to thomas read a few times but he um never was against it but
he was just kind of like yeah maybe like had never really thought about it yeah yeah and so
i think that i just was kind of like well if it's supposed to happen it'll happen i'm not going
to like push anything um but when i went to Uganda for the first time um Suzanne had told me
about um a baby that was there she was like one of two at the time
and we had been you know sending money for different we were helping with their feeding program at the time and so we had to start raising money and sending money for formula because they were babies now right so I'd known about her but um I just had never been to Uganda so I wasn't thinking about the baby I wasn't you know we were going over there to like check in on our business like it was a work trip so to speak um but it's just crazy and
that the one time I went over there and the first time our team met the baby that that we were we were meant to be the right place at the right time and out of everyone in the world I became best friends with it's Suzanne Marnick who took me all the way to this little bitty town in Uganda that took us five hours to drive to once we landed after our 24 or however many hours of flying oh my gosh and so
the thought of like being like just by chance is absurd to me because it's like okay obviously like
she was destined to be our little girl right from the beginning um but to be honest I wasn't the one
who was pushing to adopt her right I um actually FaceTime Tom Stratt that night and was like
um you know talking about the day and he wanted to he wanted to know about the baby and the photo I
posted and I was like what like you don't even care about kids half the time why do you want to know
about this baby but he just kept talking about her and so I was like well since you brought it up
it's a good time to mention that I want to find her at home like I don't want and were you thinking
in that time that you would find you would be her home like it were you hoping I was thinking like
it didn't even cross my mind really didn't even cross my mind because I think I thought like if
if that child was going to be mine like my husband would be 150% on
on board and I didn't think that he would right and that wasn't a conversation I wanted to
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and like we can find her a home like I know we can find her a home and she was sick and
at the time and so the sense of urgency was was really something that I was just trying to put on
him yeah and um without even like blinking he was like we'll do it we'll bring her home she's ours
oh my gosh and like I think my jaw hit the floor I was like what oh my gosh this is by the way
number two times in my marriage that my jaw is at the floor with him where I'm expecting the opposite
Right. But both times it's been, I truly believe both times he has gone the opposite direction that I anticipate, it's been to take us to her.
Yeah. And so I know it's all part of the plan. And it's just, it's crazy to look back and think about it now. But yeah, so at that point before we flew out from that trip, I'd started whatever that paperwork looked like just to get the ball rolling.
Right. And we came back and told.
told very few people about the potential of bringing her home.
Because have you guys even been talking about having kids at all?
Yeah, we had.
And we had kind of been trying for a little bit.
But with him touring and me being in Haiti and Uganda, it was like, you know you have
to be together.
Like at the right time, the right place to have a baby.
So we hadn't gotten pregnant yet.
Yeah.
And so it was obvious why because she was supposed to be our first.
Of course.
Yeah.
I love stuff like that. I'm such a believer in things taking you on the right path.
So cool. Yeah. And then you got pregnant, which was that a surprise?
Yeah, large, a very big surprise. So you're like, how far in between? Like, what was that?
Their timing. Oh. So Willa Gray came home in May and Ada James was born in August, so three months apart. Oh, my gosh. That's amazing. But then I got pregnant.
November of 2016. So when did I go to Uganda? That same year, 2016 in April is when I met
Willa Gray. And we got pregnant in November. Yeah. Wow. That's wild. And then I'm sure you can't
imagine life any other way now. Oh my gosh. No. But people were like, do you know what you're about
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Do you always call him Thomas Redd?
Yeah.
So, okay, so when you called me Lauren Aikens, Atkins, Aiken, same thing.
Damn it.
Most people call me Lauren Red.
Okay.
They assume our last name is Red, but our last name is Aiken.
Yeah.
But it's like the Southern double name.
Is that what it is?
Is it a Southern thing?
I think so.
I mean, it's my cousin is Ali Brooke.
He's Thomas Red.
I'm trying to think of my, I mean, I know so much.
people with double names i was wondering if that was it because every time you say it i'm like i think
this you're not just saying it like because people don't know who you know like they're like oh cool
she's like name dropping in front of like no that's just what you call do you call like to his face
it's like how i call sean sean b yes i call sean b all the time yes so like his mother when
she calls she's like tom's rat every time like he is thomas red to his best friends to his family
wait so wait you guys went to the same school i'm like that just clued in right now
Now to me that you said that like 10 minutes ago.
You guys went to the same school in what grade?
I think since I was, I'd been a good pastor since kindergarten.
He came in first grade, I think.
You've known him since the first grade?
We were not like close friends in first grade.
I mean, you knew each other?
We knew each other.
I think it's the most romantic.
Middle school was like when we became really close.
Really?
Yeah.
So you've been together since that?
So, well, not together together.
We've been friends.
We dated when we were 15.
Yeah.
Total disaster.
Well, you're 15.
Bad.
So we were much better off friends.
We stayed, like, super close friends.
And then we dated other people for, like, five years just about.
And even double dated, like, our sisters were best friends.
And we went on family vacations together.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, so we stayed close.
Oh, that's really sweet.
Even though we weren't together.
Yeah.
But that's really sweet.
Yeah.
And now you're a little family.
Aw.
It's just so romantic.
I love stories.
like that. I'm like, I met on a TV show. I met him on TV three years ago. Well, I know,
but you get it all documented. Like, how cool is that? You get to be like, hey, do you remember
this date? And then your husband's like, no. And I'm like, let me rewind it and show you. Let me pull up
YouTube. Yeah, except then I'm like remembering our engagement. And he's like, yeah, but you just broke up
with a guy five minutes before that who also proposed to you. Like, is that romantic? And I'm
like, oh. So sometimes I want to take off my ring and just like put it on his night.
and then be like, okay, let's, like, you, I won't know, like, you can take six months.
Whatever you want to propose, you just do it.
You just do it again, because then I'll be surprised.
I won't have broken up with somebody five minutes before.
You know, we've been together for, like, a real amount of time now.
We actually know each other and live together instead of just being like, hey, what's your middleman again?
Which I did.
I remember we were playing, like, a newlywed game and we're studying because we're like,
people are going to ask us to do this newlywed game all the time.
because we just got engaged on a TV show.
So we're like, let's make sure we knock it out of the park.
So we would Google like newlywed game questions.
And we had been engaged at this point for like, I don't know, like a month.
And it was one of the questions was like, what's their middle name?
And I was like, uh-uh.
No.
And he was like, oh my gosh, you don't know my middle name.
And I was like, wait, is it?
I think it's Michael.
I like didn't know, but I guessed Christopher like second.
And he was like, yeah, I'm like, oh, okay.
I'm like, maybe I subconsciously knew that.
Oh, I do love you.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
We are meant to be.
I know your middle name.
Like, not knowing each other's phone number when we got engaged.
Like, it's the weirdest concept in the world.
It's just modern.
It's just modern, modern age.
I mean, people meet in all sorts of ways these days.
So is it that weird?
Nah.
Yes.
Yes, it is.
What was your reaction when you did find out you guys were pregnant?
were you like wait something's off i need to take a test here i thought i've just had like food
poisoning we were in um gosh where were we Tanzania I think we're in Tanzania how do you even keep up
with where you've been and where you were and have mercy yeah I just don't know I don't um we were
I remember this because we were positive that one of our best friends was pregnant so we were on
vacation um while we were over in Africa we were like hey let's just pop up
on over and like do some sightseeing. So we went to Tanzania with some of our best
friends, Haley and Tyler Hubbard. And um, Haley was late. Yeah. And we were all like,
oh no, like you're totally pregnant. Yeah. You're totally pregnant. And so she, um, and then I got
really sick one night and they were started joking with me. They were like, oh, you're pregnant. Yeah.
And so we were like, oh my gosh, what if you're pregnant together? But no one ever actually
thought I was pregnant. Right. But we had to call in.
Because we were on Safari.
We had to call in a pregnancy test, and it looked like a test from the 80s.
Like it was this little cardboard looking, just teeny tiny stick with like three little dots of color on there.
And it's like, if you saw it.
Somebody just cut this out and like draw on it.
I'm like, there's no way this is accurate.
No way.
So I was concerned.
I was like, she's going to be pregnant.
And this thing isn't even going to tell her.
And then we're going to like be drinking.
And she's going to be pregnant the whole time.
You get home and really find out.
yeah and so um he brought all like four tests and she was like well you just take one with me
and we'll just do it together no way and that's how you found out yes so i was like ha ha okay
and i did kind of get nervous because i thought what if i was actually yeah and then i was like
oh my gosh that's absurd so she goes in her little hut and ours was next door to there so i go
to mine thomas drette's in the workout room yeah and um he was like uh he was like yeah
let me know what you find out that's how like not serious this was like yeah
He posted.
Yeah.
So Haley goes over there.
Tyler runs back to their room because he's like just can't wait because he's like,
I think we're having a baby.
Yeah.
You know, he's so excited.
Yeah.
And so mine, the line showed up.
I'm talking like almost instantly.
And I wasn't even like a week late at the time.
I was like, I just felt all the blood just like.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I was just, oh my gosh.
I was like, there's no way.
There's no way.
There's no way.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, God, you're not going to do this to me right now.
please and so I run out of the house and I'm like I've got it like I'm shaky I'm like kind of weak
and I'm like looking around for anybody of course Thomas Stratt's still in the gym yeah and so
they're like these Tanzanian men working something had broken on the hut and I run out and he was
like are you okay ma'am I was like yeah I got to go like I just was like I can he cannot be
the first person I tell it's got to be somebody that can hug and like that's going to yeah
feel excited for me and so Tyler like I guess heard my door shut and he was like Lauren and I was
like are you all pregnant he was like we're having a baby I was like what and so I ran over I was like
me too and I tackled him and like at in midair as I'm going to like embrace him his face totally
changed like wait a second you really are and he was like wait you're really pregnant I was like yes
are you not because that's not a funny joke and he was like no we're not pregnant I was like what oh they weren't
no they weren't it was awful it's like the worst I feel like I'm on a roller coaster right now
the most roller coaster of emotions so then he's like we got to go tell TR I was like oh great so we all go
waltzing in the gym and he's like on this elliptical and I was like babe he was like are they pregnant
I was like no and Tyler's like but and Thomas shirt was like what I was like I'm pregnant
He was like, no, no, no way.
And so the whole rest of the trip, he's like, yeah, but you told Tyler first.
It's like, it's not cool.
So he was like, I feel like we got to name him after Tyler or something.
He was convinced.
That's so funny.
Yeah, so that's how we found out we were pregnant.
Wow.
It was.
That's wild.
Yeah.
What a story.
What a story.
I bet you wish that was documented that you could watch that on YouTube.
I do.
I'd have so many hits.
Oh, my gosh.
Just so I could like see.
out reaction all over again. Yeah. I can feel it. I can feel it still. I felt that. I felt that just
hearing the story. I'm like, wow, that must have been so overwhelming. I have a lot of
girlfriends. Like, my best friends are all moms. And so I know that comes with some good
confessions. Oh, yeah. So I call this segment the confession booth. Oh, nice. See what you did there.
Yeah. Someone else did it. I just took it.
it and used it as my own.
I was like, that's genius.
So, yeah, at this, I try and come up with confessions every week, but sometimes I'll
do, like, a few podcasts in one week.
I'll be like, do I really have to tell embarrassing stories every time?
So it's hard, but I've got one for you.
Okay.
Let's hear it.
My confession is that I cried watching videos of your family today.
I was, like, watching, like, the people, like, oh.
You know, doing my research.
and I cried
I was like
I was such a beautiful family
I'm a very emotional person though
I cry over like
Thomas Red is too
Really?
Yes
Can he teach Sean?
You can't teach that
Yeah
He's been trying to teach me
Has he always been that way?
Mm-hmm
He gets it from his mom
Really?
Oh yeah
See that Sean and his dad are like
The most cool
Like laid back dudes
Like
I'll
Did I already tell this story
Or was I telling the story
Of someone else today
I was trying on wedding dresses
for a photo shoot
and they're like
Sean will probably get
like emotional
when he sees you
and I'm like
it's a photo shoot
and they're like
yeah but most men do
and I was like great
now if he does
I'm really mad
and so I walk out in the first one
and he was like this
and I was like
what do you mean?
And he was like
I don't know
I've seen you in like eight wedding dresses
now
no
no
and I was like
can you give a tear
even pretend
fake it put some hot sauce in your eyeball yeah he did nothing he was like and then he like went back
to his phone oh oh my he's like he's like well babe it'll be different when i actually see you in
in the wedding dress and i'm like yeah but still fake something like at least pretend yeah i'm like
and then he's like you would know if i was faking it then he's like because you know i wouldn't be
emotional i'm like that's a good point he's got a point there he's got a point there don't give him that
But anyways, I cried over your videos today
That's my confession
That's a sweet convention
I'm like that and I was blaring party rock
By LMFAO on the way here
And like really enjoying it
Yeah
I'm with you on that
That's my other confession
I'm with you on that
I usually have better ones than that
But that's all I got for you
Well, your turn
So my confession is just going to go along
With my mom life right now
Okay, yeah of course
The hair you see currently is going on day eight
Oh nice
Yes
Well then what's my excuse?
This is like day six
What?
Oh, yeah, I never wash my hair.
What's the longest you've gone?
Probably eight days.
I've gone 11.
That's amazing.
That's probably why you have beautiful hair.
Really?
Yeah.
Because I feel like the natural oils, like, really condition.
I don't know.
Okay.
I've heard this.
But that's day eight?
Day eight.
You don't even look greasy.
Well, I got done.
Well, the dry house.
For whatever reason, when I go get my hair done there.
Oh, they really like, I don't know.
Give you the right products or something.
I don't know.
but I haven't even, I used dry shampoo once.
Really?
Oh, see, that's why I have to wear hats.
I wear hats all the time because my hair looks greasy and I don't want to wash it.
But I also don't have two children and a traveling husband and like, I have no excuse.
I go to the bun.
I just hate showering.
Yeah.
I don't mind it if I don't wash my hair, which is good because I do shower.
It's just, yeah, I don't.
Okay, I don't wash my hair or my body.
Just kidding.
I'm a big fan of baths.
I love the bath.
Yes.
Yeah, you too.
Bath bombs?
Oh, bath bombs all day long.
Or really after nine o'clock when the kids are asleep.
Oh, I bet.
And you deserve that.
I don't deserve any.
I'm like, I don't shower and I have nice long baths and I sleep in until noon.
And Sean's always home.
Is it, do you find that hard?
Does he travel?
Thomas Wrett.
Now I want to call him.
I'm like, what do I call him?
Dommie.
Dommie.
You can calm.
No, I will not.
Because he's probably gone a lot.
Yeah.
And did you, do you travel with him ever, or did you?
We do a lot.
You do a lot.
Okay.
I did like almost everywhere.
And then we had kids and, or I really got involved with, um, loved one.
And so I, we kind of, we travel a lot with him, but he, we kind of, it's mixed.
We do both.
But the kids do really well.
Um, they're good sleepers.
Willa gray loves the road.
She feels like it's a giant sleepover with all of her friends.
Okay.
That's so sweet.
I, that's, that's going to make such nice memories for them.
I know.
And you guys.
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I just bow down to mom.
We have so much help.
Like, and both of our families in town.
That's so nice.
Right now while I'm hearing my sisters at home with my girls.
That's so nice.
It's so nice that we've got people that are, like, in our inner circle that can help me take care of the kids.
Look, I can't even handle, like, a dog right now with how much we travel and we have Sean's sister that takes care of Tucker.
So I'm like, what are we going to do when we have kids?
I think it's almost harder with dogs.
Really?
Well, kind of.
I don't know about that.
Well, because I love my dogs and they're like, they are like my family.
And you got dogs.
Yeah.
How do you do this?
But that's why I'm saying.
They're harder to take care of than my kids because I just bring my kids everywhere with me.
And I'm just like, well, they'll adapt to wherever we go, whatever we do.
Dogs can adapt, sort of, but not really.
And like one of our dogs is really not going to.
She's super anxious.
So I have to be careful with who comes over and stays with her.
Right.
Oh, that's a good point.
If we take her on the road, like you can't really fly with dogs, not too big ones when you've got two kids.
And so that almost makes it harder.
Yeah, I guess.
Unless you're the family that's like, no, like, they need to stay home and, like, have their life here and then we go.
But then you're separated, which isn't fun.
But some people do that and that can be hard, I'm sure.
You just got to do what works for you.
We just strap them on and bring them with us.
I love that.
I want to be like that when I'm a mom.
I just want, like, when you were like, you know, we just bring them and they'll adapt.
I'm like, I love that.
That's what I want to do.
I just want to strap them on and just have that lifestyle.
They learn things and they see.
And like, Willa Gray will get to like see so much of.
the world. Lord, have mercy. She just flew from Yukon. Yes. The U.S. last year. Now she's traveling
the U.S. Living the life. Yes, she'll see so many things. That's true too. Just from traveling
with touring and stuff, they'll see so many places. You know, places that you'd probably
never just pick up and go to as a family. Right. Whether, you know. And family that lives
out of town. When we go to their town, it's like we've seen his cousin, who's one of his best
friends, like more than we've seen our family just because the places we've traveled, he's
been there the last few weeks. That's awesome. And so that's a cool element.
too is she gets to be a part of his life and get to know him and this makes me want to move back
to like closer to my family i'm like i can't do it without okay so sometimes i do actually sometimes
i've done it like twice uh would you rather a game okay oh i hate these games you do only because i'm so
indecisive oh i am too but i can i'll i'll do it okay i can do it we'll try um i just love games
in general me too uh okay
Would you rather drink your kids backwash or eat their chewed food?
Oh, eat their chewed food.
I just came out.
He was like, eat their chewed food.
Okay, maybe this won't be that hard for me.
Eat their chewed food?
If it's like real things that actually would have to happen, I think I can decide pretty quick.
Okay.
Eat chewed food for sure.
This is a real thing that you would have to choose from.
If I just see it in a cup, I have to throw it out because I'm like, oh.
Yeah, I hear you.
I'd pick the same thing.
Okay.
Would you rather wake up at 3 a.m.
to find that your bed is soaked in the kid's pee
or deal with an unfortunate accident at Target?
Well, it depends on if people are going to see me.
Like, if it's going to be documented at Target,
I don't really want to do that.
Do people like sneakily put up their phone
and try and document things the other?
Totally, totally.
So I guess it's a, if we're going to be documented at Target,
I'd rather wake up and see it and have it in my bed at 3.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Yeah.
Would you rather have lice go through your whole house or the stomach flu?
oh lice been there done that twice the stomach flu or lice lice
really yes that's because you don't wash your hair for 11 days I'm just kidding
I just kidding it happened when I came back from Uganda one time and and then at camp
another time oh so you're like you're like the lice queen dude I know all about lice
there you go yeah that's funny and there's a place I was not it's called the lice place
oh for everyone listening in Nashville I don't know if it's like a thing elsewhere but
It's definitely here.
If you ever deal with Lice.
I picked the right question.
Yes.
There is a place.
Listen to this.
So back in the day, when I had it like at camps.
One time.
One time people.
This happens like one time when I was young and then one time like a couple years ago.
So used to you would treat it with like this stuff.
So I bought that at Target or wherever and then treated it.
But the people were like, no, no, no.
Like you have to get every bit of it picked out.
And I was like, what?
That's going to take hours with my head of hair.
Yeah.
And so there's this place.
I think it's called the Lice Place.
They like specialize in getting it out?
Dude, so I think it's like nurses or some sort of health care professionals that are there.
And you have your own room.
You go in, you sit down in this comfy chair, but it's like low enough to where they can get to your head.
They sit behind you.
There is a giant screen TV in front of you with Netflix.
Yeah.
And they get, they're like, would you like a glass of wine?
What do you want?
I sat there.
I had a glass of wine for three hours, this girl picked through.
my hair and like sounds glorious it was unbelievable but i'm just saying that quickly you can get rid of
it and stomach flu not so much that just sounds like luxurious yep see there you go okay easy
question then that's hilarious oh okay well i'll keep that in mind uh would you rather always be 10
minutes late or 30 minutes early i live 10 minutes late so i would choose the other oh
30 minutes early
I have to wait around
I was 30 minutes early today
which is kind of weird that you
asked me that which is like happened
one other time in my life
Oh so you're always 10 minutes late
I'm constantly running late
But I would choose the early only because I hate
Making people wait on me
Yeah
And I always am doing it
I do it too I'm so guilty of it
Were you always like that or is this like a new mom thing?
My mom's that way yeah
My dad is not
But my mom is
I don't I feel like
I don't
know what my parents are like that way i feel like they're on time sean he's going to hate me for
saying this and he listens to every podcast but he usually is late and it'll be because he's like
picking out an outfit and blow drying his hair same with thomas trust really yes okay he he'll say
like bad no i don't like every time you actually do we have a straightener in our house oh yeah
and it's not for me yeah yeah yeah i'm same yeah yeah okay so we have some questions from listeners
and then we're going to wrap it up.
Cool.
I'm like, where are the questions?
Oh, yeah, they're on my phone.
Okay, so I feel like we actually did cover some questions that people already had.
I think we talked about this maybe before the chewing sounds, but somebody asked, what is her name?
Han Morrison asked, what is your biggest pet peeve that TR does that drives you bonkers?
Oh, it's the misophon.
Miso phoomia.
It's the chewing.
Dude.
I hear you.
Yeah, I can't handle it.
I figured that's what it would be.
Yeah.
Thanks for.
Does he eat cereal?
Teaching meat.
Uh, only if he sees me for a bowl of cereal, but I'm like, no, don't see me because then you're going to chew it.
This, see, this will give you like a little bit, like a piece of mind now, knowing that there is other people out there and that's a thing.
And you can just Google it and, you know, it's, it's all about having conversation.
Yep, yep, yeah.
Yeah, that, okay, sweetest Nick says, hey lady, uh, here's my question.
have you had any mom fails?
If so, what's your funniest one to date?
I mean, gosh.
I feel like every day.
That's a thing.
That's like, yeah, mom fails.
Mom guilt and mom fails.
It's just, that's real.
Yeah.
Oh, gosh.
This isn't really like, I feel like this is more mom fail because I feel like people are just
are watching me constantly.
But, yeah, that's, that makes it hard.
does it makes it hard pressure yeah so willie gray actually this happened a couple weeks ago which
is why i'm going to tell i'm sure i have a much worse one than this but this is the only one that
comes to mine because my brain is mush from being a mom right now yeah of course so a couple weeks ago
thomas strette has this part in his um set where he goes to the back of the wherever he's playing
and there's a b stage so he can see the people in the back and have a moment with them well where
we usually stand is somewhere around there and so it's a direct line for willie
great to see him and him to see her so um she started crying because during sound check she got to go up
with him and sing and play and do whatever on the microphone so she saw him and he's turning around
looking at us and i'm like giving him the eyes like listen she's about to lose it yeah if you don't like
at least acknowledge her yeah and so he pulls her up on stage and i was like oh geez this is
going to be bad when she comes down so she finally you know she gets up there says hello whatever she does
and it was sweet and she was like having the time of her life she's like I meant to be on stage oh yeah
and so but then she had to get off yeah yeah and of course I'm the one to take her off yeah
and she starts throwing the biggest fit oh no I mean like thrashing and like just tears and like
the saddest face and and when he comes back it's like the masses all gravitate to the back
and there are just thousands of eyeballs watching this
this whole thing unfold and I'm like, what do I do?
Like, do I act like we're this happy family where it's like, okay, everything's fine.
No, she's great.
She loves coming off stage and she's just going to sit here with me and be happy.
Or do I discipline her like I should and not let her be this way to me and be like, listen, sister.
There are some rules that we've got to follow.
And so she was like the point where I was like trying to hold her and be like, love me, love me and let me hold you.
And she was kicking and kicking and finally tried to get out of my arms.
And I had to sit her firmly on the ground and stick my fingers.
in her face and be like no man like I had to like get like serious mom face on and like discipline
her in front of I don't know how many thousands of people and everyone's just watching me and I was
like you know what maybe this is good no it's good that's not a mom fail but it was like one of like
the most uncomfortable moments in my mom life because it was like everyone's watching don't mess
it up but I'm also not going to let my child run over me that is a tricky situation it is yeah
good for you for doing the right thing thank you yeah proud of you
Thanks.
That's a good one, but I don't think that was a fail.
It's just tricky.
Yeah, just mom suck, maybe.
It just sucked.
No, you did the right thing.
You disciplined.
Well, you did the right thing for you.
I'm not saying what's right.
I'm not doing that.
Whatever your way is the right way.
Whatever your way is, it's the right way.
Abby Holmes says, my question for Lauren, I know they have been together for so long before all the fame and success.
So going through such big changes and being in the spotlight and gaining fame must have been crazy.
And I could see how it would be really hard at times.
So how did you stay so perfect?
I was like, well, you're probably looking at social media.
Did you ever struggle with all this, or was it an easy transition?
Definitely not easy.
No, that wouldn't be easy for anybody.
No.
I would be lying if I told you.
There were so many days where I'm just like, can we just go back to where nobody gives
a full lip about who we are?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, and I don't want to sound ungrateful either.
No, I know.
There's so much good that comes from what.
I mean, and the children, we've been talking about the whole time that we get to help because of everyone that does know who we are and wants to help.
It's amazing.
But you're a human being at the same time.
But we are human beings.
And honestly, when we, here is our secret.
It's not really secret because we talk about it with everybody.
But I'll let you think it's a secret.
Yeah, there you go.
It might be new to the listeners.
So you're filling us in on a secret.
We make sure to, A, keep our faith first.
be keep each other second and see just keep it about what really matters and um and in doing that
we we so we before you get married you know you get like a um a discount or something like
on your license if you go to marriage counseling yes so we started doing that sort of for the
incentive but also like this will be really good for us and i'm nurse so like going through
psychology and things like that and my nursing degree like I love the brain and like learning about
all of that and so as we really got into our marriage counseling I was like man this is amazing and
it's like so good for us and so we just like routinely see our counselor yeah and I think it's so
good to like have somebody just kind of point out you're like hey you know I think you you think that
you're right here but here's what he's saying.
and this is why it means so much to him.
This is what you're not hearing him say.
Right.
And it's like, oh my gosh.
It helps so much.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
And then you look at him and you're not like, oh, okay.
Like before this, I was just thinking, gosh, you're so annoying and you could not be more mean to me.
And I cannot believe that you blah, blah, blah.
And then we leave there and I'm like, I'm so sorry.
I'm the biggest jerk in the world.
No, it's so true.
We feel the same way.
Like, I think nobody comes out of counseling being like, I don't understand.
Like you're like, I feel more clear about what happened and who you are and why this happened.
And then you and then you start apologizing.
And then both of you were like, no, no, no, I'm so sorry.
And you're like, oh, let's hug.
I just love so.
Sean and I actually laughed so hard the other day because something happened and, oh, I asked him to do something.
I was like, do you want to put furniture together with me tonight?
And he was like, I don't have time.
And he like, you know, and I was like, whoa.
And then I thought about it.
And usually I would just blow up back.
But I was like, I'm really sorry you misunderstood.
intention of the question I actually just thought it could be something we could do together
and put our phones down for an hour and that was me wanting quality time and he was like
I'm sorry too because I should have understood when I was just stressed out at all my emails
and I was like did we just like diffuse a blow up did it and then we're like yeah we like
high five and we were like this is amazing and we learned it from our counselor it's so true
it is but yeah it's everyone should do it although nothing is perfect like no no marriage is
perfect no hair is perfect no and we're even on day eight yeah well it looks pretty cute if you asked me
but that's the i mean that's the whole thing with i'm the social media yeah trying to like achieve
perfection is impossible it's impossible and it's what will defeat you yes oh it's draining it will
defeat you every time every time all the time uh okay i usually end with a joke so i've got one for you
but you can tell me if you know the answer because i feel like it's kind of a lame one
Okay.
Wait, I have a question for you.
Okay.
Where did you get your jacket?
Free people.
Oh, I love it.
When I tell you, you're like the 12th person who asked me that in the last month.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of it.
I don't know what this jacket is, but everyone loves it.
Way to go, free people.
Yeah, I don't know.
It looks cozy and trendy and like a little badass.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I was going for that today.
There you go.
You nailed it.
What did sushi A say to sushi B?
I don't know.
What's up, B?
Oh, yes, it landed.
Landy!
Yes.
Oh, my gosh, that's awesome.
Oh, thank you.
Can I reuse that?
Please do.
I reused it.
It's not like I made it up.
Okay, awesome.
I have like a joke book.
You can recycle all of them.
I'll just send you it.
Oh, great.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much for being here and taking time out of your very busy schedule.
This is good.
Oh, my gosh.
Now, go wash your hair.
I am.
Just kidding.
I'm going to go home and I'm going to be like, Macy, can you stay in.
Another 30 minutes or just seconds.
No, I will go to the gym and then use the hair dryers in the change room to blow dry my sweaty hair and go do my next thing, okay?
So don't worry about that.
That is awesome.
Thank you, everybody, for tuning in.
I'm Caitlin Bristow, and I'll see you next Tuesday.
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