Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Lindsay Ell

Episode Date: August 25, 2020

Kaitlyn is joined this week by country music singer, songwriter, pianist and guitarist, Lindsay Ell! Lindsay tells Kaitlyn how she loved music and songwriting from a very young age and always knew that she wanted to perform. She also talks about her new album, Heart Theory, and how it cycles you through the seven stages of grief that someone goes through after a breakup. Then, Lindsay opens up about sexual assault and how talking about difficult experiences allows her to connect with her audience and possibly help and inspire others. Later, Kaitlyn spills a hilarious confession and Lindsay answers a round of hypotheticals! GEICO – Go to geico.com , and in fifteen minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance OXICLEAN – To Work your Magic with OxiClean, go to OxiClean.com/tryme and order a free stain-fighting sample while supplies lastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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She started recording music at such a young age and her first full-length country album, The Project, debuted at number one on the Billboard country album sales chart. Not a big deal. She is currently nominated for two ACM Awards, new female artists of the year, and vocal event of the year. And thankfully for all of us, she just released some new music. Her new album, Heart Theory, came out August 14th. It will be out by the time you guys are hearing this. It was so fun to talk to her on catch up. I finally have a confession for you guys. It's, it's been a while, and this one is a doozy. So please enjoy the podcast today. And here's Lindsay out. Wait, oh my gosh, I look like such a little turd right now you look so adorable what does your hoodie say love yourself

before loving amen sister yes three steps oh my god love that oh my god love that it's so funny um i also think this is so funny to do a podcast with you like over zoom when we've been going to patio dinners and i know and because i research on you and i was like dang funny out all this about you that I didn't even know yet. It's going to be so fun. Very adorable. I'm so good. I know.

I was thinking the same thing. I was like, should I drive to you and we should do this in person or not? Because then we could have drank my wine. But also, I plan on going to bed right after this. I don't know what. Do you get fifted by the moon? Yeah, yeah, I do.

And I don't know enough about moon cycles to know. how that's going to mess up my sleep but i'm sleeping horribly like i slept for five hours last night maybe maybe what do you usually sleep for what do you need to sleep to function well that's an interesting question because last year we were on the road 280 days holy shit and like we had a bus for some of that but a lot of that was slide aids and so i like to get eight hours of sleep Yeah. But for a lot of the year last year, I mean, we'd play the show. And by the time we'd like, I'd sign up merch and we'd cash out and finally get back to a hotel, it would be like midnight 1 a.m. And then we'd normally have a 6 a.m. flight every single day. So you were waking up at 4 to get to an airport by 5. And so I was getting consistently like 3, 4 hours of sleep a night last year. Yikes. And I think my body just hated me. Well, I don't even understand because as a singer and performer, like, how does your body just work off adrenaline once you get on that stage? Yeah.

Yeah. Honestly, there have been, yeah, there have been moments where I don't have a voice. Like, I was, you know, allergies used to, like, command my life when I moved down here because of the Canadian moving down to Tennessee. It's like, good luck. I didn't even know that until I got here. And I was like, oh, apparently I have allergies. now. Me too, like year-round, like all the time. And yeah, so there would be some days where I did not have a voice. I would be like, hello, I'd be talking to my band whispering. And then miraculously,

I walk on stage and I'm like, you just figured out. You figured out. That's so wild. I always think about that with performers or like, like, I always get, oh, here, you know, I always get a, I always get a, I always get a, like, frog in my throat or I like choke on something. Like, What happens if that happens on stage? You're just like, and then you just move on? Yeah, you just get used to going forward. I mean,

I've been playing on stage ever since I was 10 years old, and I think everything that has possibly could have gone wrong has gone wrong. Like, I've had PA systems die, like amps flow up, monitor speakers go down, mics go down. I once parked my car.

This was like early on in my touring days. I was probably like 17 or something. And I accidentally parked our band band, a really sexy 15 passenger band band, which was my first car ever, um, in like the fire lane or something. And I didn't know. And so in the middle of our show, like the band's playing, the club is packed. The bar manager comes on stage and takes my mic, like, in between songs. And it's like, would the owner of the white van please move it? And I'm, I'm like, that, that's me. And so at the time, like the boys in my band didn't know.

know, like, where my keys were in my purse. So I just made them, like, play something. And I had to go run out in the middle of the show and move the cart. So, yeah, I'm just used to pretty much everything going wrong that could potentially go wrong. Because you're like, I've probably been through this before. I mean, that's crazy. You grew up in Canada. You have been, didn't you, didn't you start playing piano at the age of six? Yes, you're so smart. Um, no, I Google do. Um, I did. And then guitar at eight. Yeah, piano is my first instrument. And I'm so thankful that I learned piano first because it's like it's different to learn music like when it's all laid out in front of you compared to like on the neck of a guitar. And so at six years old, I didn't really think classical

piano was cool. I actually hated it. My brother and I hated it. But I'm so glad my parents put me in piano lessons when I was little because now I use that theory all the time. Right. And so you stuck with piano it wasn't just like a one because I'm always impressed by the kids who stick with it because my parents got me to play piano too but it was two years and I was like get me out of here and now I'm the same way I'm like why didn't I stick with it I know it's weird because like the minute I picked up guitar I liked it better immediately I was like this is so much cooler I can play whatever and so I definitely focus more on guitar but now I just approach piano differently like I play a lot more by ear. So it's different like writing on the two instruments because I just write a completely

different song. So I, I freaking envy people who can make instruments. I just think it's the coolest thing. I wish I would have, I mean. But you can. What do you mean you wish? You can. I can teach you. Okay. I'm going to hold you to that. And then you enjoyed that you said that to me because I'm going to texting you every day. Can you teach me how to play guitar today? I would love to teach you how to play guitar. Really? Okay, because I can play like a G. I can play. I can play. a D. That's amazing. I can play a.

Okay, see, with those chords, Caitlin and a capo, you can pretty much almost play any song. Yeah, the capo is where you lose me, though. Then I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. I can play what's Wonderwall is my go-to, but I think that's everybody's go-to at a party. Hey, but that's a start.

You need to start somewhere? You guys know this one? Wonderwall. Yes, Caitlin, we know you can play Wonderwall. I flip in love. it's amazing favorite song to play on guitar oh my goodness um that's a good question i mean i loved like my dad was huge into classic rock so i loved like hotel california or something yeah of course that song never gets old i'll never gets old never gets old that's um that's my dad's favorite song

as well did you really was your family into music as well did they all do music they all did nobody did it professionally. I was the first one crazy enough to be like, I want to do this a job. I want to drop out of school, mom and dad, and go be a musician. So I was the first one crazy enough to do that. But yeah, everybody played an instrument. My dad played like everything with strings on it. My mom played piano. So that's amazing. That's, I mean, your parents were probably like you can because at six and eight you're doing it. And then at 10, you were starting to write your own music. Now, this is what blows my mind because at like, okay, you were 10. You What was I doing at 10?

I was probably like picking my nose and eating it. And you were like, yeah, but the songs I was writing were so lame. Like, you're 10. I mean, like, what was like a line from a song when you were 10? The first song I ever wrote, this is so cheesy, was called That Place in My Heart. And I wrote it to my parents.

And it's like, you, that place in my heart is so cheesy. So sweet. Did they cry? Because if my child wrote me, song and saying that I that is beautiful my dad definitely cried that's so cute I just I don't know I think like if you're writing music at the age of 10 you are you are supposed to be in the music industry if you're learning instruments at 6 and 8 and writing music at 10 like you're you're exactly where you're supposed to be um did you yes did you have school girl crushes that you wrote

about I mean for sure absolutely like did you perform them for them because I always think, like, if I had that skill, I probably would have, like, tried to swoon guys with my music. You know, it was weird because, like, I went to a high school in Calgary where you taught yourself. Yeah. So it was, it was called Bishop Carolyn. Like, it was like going to homeschool, but you'd actually go to school. And you'd, like, take out your books and teach yourself and then sign up to write all your tests. So it was kind of crazy.

But I finished high school year early because I just wanted to get through it and get on the road. to play shows. So I had a lot of friends, but not like friends, friends. I was such a nerd. Caitlin, I was such a nerd in school. I just, like, would sit there and, like, study and, like, I don't know, work ahead.

So I was pretty lame. I'm so confused by the school system. Yeah, it was crazy. It was made for a lot of kids who did sports or, like, in performing arts. yeah and so you'd go to like you'd go to school and there were resource centers they called them so there was like math and religion and english and social and then chem bio and physics and you go into the resource center and there were teachers in the room that you could ask questions to but um but you just basically open up these these units that you take out like a library and teach yourself okay that you know what you're impressing me you taught that That's so crazy. And to have that, like, self-discipline to do so. It was a really good, like, set up for college or university because you just become really, yeah, self-disciplined and proactive. And the cool part about it was, like, you could schedule your test.

So if you were doing something fun on the weekend, you could finish a test on Friday so you didn't have it on Monday morning. So, you know, you didn't have to study all weekend or whatever. And so I loved it. I mean, there were definitely kids. who were on the standard three-year program, I finished in two years, and then there were kids who took five years. That would have been me. I would have been like, well, I don't know.

I would wanted to get it over with, but at the same time, I would have just put everything off all the time. My dog just sneezed all over my ankle. Oh, my gosh. Pino's so cute. Pino is such a nut. Ramen has been like off today and yesterday,

which was really scary me. He was like, why? Because he started dry heaving, and then he had diarrhea, and I'm like, this ain't right. And then I was like, okay, well, if he doesn't want to eat, then I'm going to be really concerned. But he, like, gobbled up his food and he, like, still has energy, but then he'll, like, go out and have diarrhea again. And I'm like, are you okay or no?

I'm not sure. Weird. Well, at least he's eating food. That was a major sign for us with our dogs. The minute they stop eating, it's like, okay, we need to address this. No, I'm the same. I was so nervous. I was like, please eat, and he was so excited to eat, so that's good.

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been a better time to switch to Geico. Save an extra 15% when you switch by October 7th. Visit geico.com to learn more. okay yeah so you grew up in calgary which is crazy because that's it for people who don't know um that's like two hours from where i grew up and what how old are you what you're where you were i'm 31 i was born to 89 okay so you're a little bit younger than me but i think that's so wild that like now full circle in nashville we are friends i know how crazy right no and i was thinking i'm like looking up on um internet let's see if i have here okay i was looking up words that only girls

or guys from Alberta would know. And I was like, wait, okay, first of all, what do you, what is a bluff to you? B-L-U-F-F-F. Oh, my gosh. Is it like a thing of scenery? Like a bluff, like a, I don't even know how to describe it. Not a cliff, but like a flat. It's like trees isolated by prairies.

Okay. Wow. Did you know what a bluff was? I didn't know what that was. Bluff. I thought that was like, you're lying. You're bluffing. I'm like, everyone is that. We're best Alberta. Um, okay, this one I know you'll know. Um, what is a bunny hug? Uh, is it like, is it like where you, I don't know what a bunny hug actually is. Is it like, where you like, no, with your noses? What's, this is a bunny hug. Are you serious? I had no idea. Oh my gosh.

The alberton and me.com article is wrong. I know. Is wrong. That's what I always called hoodies is a bunny hug that's so funny what about gonch no what's a what's a ganch is men's underwear i always call jason's underwear ginchy ganch he's like ginchy ganch oh my gosh that's amazing i mean we we obviously said tuk yeah and like me cutlery which when i moved to the states everybody's like what's cutlery and i'm like what do you mean what's colory silverware like yeah that one i was bulls yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. I always say silverware. What about a porch climber? Man, the Alberta in me is falling down. What is a porch climber? Moonshine. Really? Yeah. Okay, I'm glad you know some of these because I'm reading them. I'm like, oh, I'm going to come up with like these funny scenes in Alberta. I'm reading them. I'm like, what the hell is a? What is it? Jambuster? Do you know what a jam buster? I have no idea. what Jam Buster is. It's a jelly-filled donut. I'm like, this is a lie. I've lived over for 20 years and I have no idea what some of those. But a bunny hug I thought you were going to know. I know. That's so

funny. Yeah, I guess, I guess my parents just still call them hoodies. I'm going to ask my parents if they know what a bunny hug is. And I'm going to be like, I should have known this word in my childhood. Ask them if they know. What, when did you go, when did you move away from Calgary? And what did that look like for you? Like, what age were you? I was 20. I spent about six months in L.A. first, just writing. And then somebody was like, I think you should check out Nashville. I think you'd really like it there. And so I came to, I came to Nashville for the first time just before I turned 21. And I knew one person's name on a piece of paper. I knew nobody. Stop. Really? Yeah. And I remember getting up the plane being like, all right, well, if any time is going to happen now, I was as good as any. And so I would, I didn't. I didn't have a visa at the time, so I couldn't make money. And I would go to Nashville for two weeks and book triples, which people don't know what triples are.

It's like where you write three songs a day. So I'd write from like 9 to 1, 2 to 6, and then 7 until 9. And then I'd go to a writer's round at night. And I'd do that every day because I knew nobody. And I was just trying to meet people. And so I'd do that every day for two weeks. And then I'd fly back to Calgary where I was. waiting tables and playing shows and going to university UFC at the time.

And then I would save up enough money for two weeks and then go back down to Nashville. And I went back and forth for about a year and a half. Oh, my gosh. You are such a go-getter. That's awesome. I just didn't know how else to do it. And I didn't really know anybody. So I was like, okay, well, this is the only way.

You're like, you're clearly taking risks. you're going outside your comfort zone you're trying to meet people and you're like working your ass off doing it so um what was what was the point where you're like hey i'm doing this i'm i'm in and i'm going for it now it was about that year and a half mark where i i think i sounded really canadian there about i didn't notice okay good um yeah that year and a half mark where i was just starting to meet like um my first production company that i teamed up with we were starting to cut a few sides, and then I got offered my first publishing deal. And when I did that, I was able to get my first visa and actually make money as a working songwriter. And I was like,

whoa, this may actually happen. Like, I'm moving to Nashville. When did you move? Mine was four years ago. And I was like, I've never been going to move for a guy. Cool, cool, I love it. I love it. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad I did. It took me a long. And now you can never leave. Well, no, I will not leave until you do. Okay, perfect. We'll be back with more Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Let's talk about your new album, Heart Theory.

It came out, well, when people hear this, it will come out. Because August 14th, it's super personal to you and takes you through the seven stages of grief through the tracks, which sounds. so interesting. Can you tell me a little bit more about that? Yeah. I mean, originally when people read about the record, they're like, whoa, the seven stages of creep, this sounds really heavy. But yeah, I was, I was halfway through writing this album. I've been working on it for like the past three years. And I was like, you know, I'm writing these songs in the, in the order of like what I'm going through right now. And I'm like, wouldn't that be cool if I wrote kind of a concept record on the seven stages of grief.

And the seven stages of grief is just one way of saying, like, this is the process of how human beings feel things and go through moments of their life, whether that's going through a breakup or losing a loved one or losing a job or moving, whatever it is, going through a flipping global pandemic. I mean, we all go through like moments of transformation in our lives so many times.

And I'm like, wouldn't it be cool to write a record that's in order? So from track one, it starts in shock. And then it goes through all of the feeling, shock, denial, anger, bargaining, all the way down to the last stage of acceptance. You can fully look in the mirror and accept yourself for everything that you are and everything that's happened to you. And so I did just that. I wrote a record that is like you can slowly hear me unravel through all the tracks as you listen down.

Wow. What a great idea. And like you said, well, that sounds so deep. Well, it is. But that's like what people I think crave out of music. is like deep musical lyrics so I love that you did that was it do you do you get like emotional during your writing process like when you're going through all this because it's got to be therapeutic to write it out and like go through that oh my gosh you know how people talk about journaling and

how that yeah or just writing out your feelings or writing out your goals or writing anything writing down so when you're writing and you're talking about because obviously they're from personal experience yeah emotional to to write very much so and I have probably saved. I mean, I'd spend thousands of dollars on therapy, but I have probably saved thousands and thousands of dollars of therapy because of songwriting. I mean, I am also in for all of it. I love journaling. I love meditation. I just, I love all of the things. But songwriting is so therapeutic. Yeah. There's just something about getting your emotions out, especially where you can sing them. It's, um, it's just one of my favorite kinds of therapy, truly. And,

And I mean, from the beginning of this process, I wouldn't even necessarily say this album is written about one relationship in particular, but more just heartbreak in general. And I just hope that people listening to the record can like get support from it if they're looking for support or maybe it can inspire them to go through their own process because I just wanted to be like, this is my journey and this is what I went through. And I'm in such a good place now. but you sometimes can't get there until you feel all of the little parts and you're able to like meet yourself in all of those different areas you know people always want to jump from step one to step seven without going through all those feelings which would be nice if you could but people have to understand you have to go through all those things so that's cool because they can like kind of see your end of the album and have hope for themselves if they're going through like stage four right now or whatever it is that they're going through because who doesn't go through hard times whether it's, you know, like you said, pandemic or relationships or jobs or whatever it is, you're feeling lost about. Exactly. I feel like every, like every year at minimum, multiple times a year, maybe, like we're just always, life is hard. And, and we're always kind

of trying to get to that next level. And whether it's, you know, in our careers or in our personal lives, I mean, we are constantly being tested. And, and through all of those things, we're constantly like getting to know ourselves better just like your your funny hug says love yourself is it all comes down to finding deeper ways that we can love ourselves and truly get to know ourselves and and be able to just be like unequivocally us and that's a hard thing to do because we're just feel like society is so good at filtering our our viewpoint and are the way we speak, you know, especially like even social media. I mean, we're accustomed to just thrown on a filter on everything. And I do it every single day. But it's just, it's so hard to then

try to show up authentically like yourself when we're so trained at always having to filter to be this like perfect little thing all the time. Yeah, especially in any sort of spotlight too. like because you want to be on and you want to be this you know performer and be this you know almost character in people's lives but you're also a real person and you want to just shut off sometimes and you don't know well and i feel this way like i don't know how much to share how little to share or like when to you know because i also want to inspire people with going through real shit but it's it's like once you do once you do show up as your authentic self people people can see that and they appreciate it and I think people want to see that and hear

people's stories and the more I open up about difficult things the more closer I feel to my audience and realize how everybody has gone through something which I know that you you talk to people magazine recently about your experience with sexual assault and you opened up about being raped at ages 13 and 21 which I just applaud you for talking about because you've probably held on to that for so long. And it's, again, writing lyrics or talking about it or speaking your truth is always inspiring and brave, but I'm sure it's helped countless people who have heard your story. So what made you decide to open up and share this and how has it helped you move forward? Well, first off, I completely agree that being more vulnerable, like the

most vulnerable you can be helps you connect to people because I feel that you know we're all human we all put our pants on one leg at a time every single day and this thing is hard this thing is hard that we're all navigating through and so when we can just show each other that we're all fighting the same battles maybe in different little ways but we're all fighting the same battles um it just it brings it to like a human level and yeah my story is a little girl I um I didn't want to talk about it for the longest time because I didn't want it to be just a publicity stint and this thing that, you know, was just sitting up in a cloud somewhere. I wanted it to truly be able to help people. And so I just really didn't talk about it much.

And I went to this place called Youth for Tomorrow three years ago. And Youth for Tomorrow is an organization in the States that they have a bunch of campuses, but their biggest one is just outside of Bristol, Virginia. And I went there three years ago to help them launch their music. program and they deal with youth aged 12 to 18 who have just gotten to the wrong scenarios or a lot of them are survivors and victims of sex trafficking and rape and so I went there and they first started the day with me sitting down at this conference table with 12 other little girls and I sat down and told them my story and then they told me all of their stories and Caitlin it was like horrific hearing the things that would come out of these little girls' mouths. And there was this 12-year-old

girl sitting beside me and she was like, yeah, Lindsay, my parents told me to a sex trafficking company when I was little. And she's 12. And yet she had so much light in her eyes and in her heart. And she's had like such a deep and dark past already. And she's 12 years old. And yet all of the incredible people at Youth for Tomorrow have really helped her just see her own brilliance and help her heal. And it just inspired me so much. And I left that campus that day being like, if I don't talk about this now, I'm holding back the opportunity to help other little girls like that or little boys like that or grown adults like that. Because I feel like this happens far more in our communities and in our cities and towns than we want to admit.

It always just seems like a, you know, a storyline from a movie. Like, take. you know that we're used to seeing but when we really do the research i mean like one of the biggest sex trafficking hubs in the world is portland like yeah and it's just like these these issues it's it's a hard and heavy thing to talk about i mean hence why it took me so long to talk about it but i feel like it really needs to be talked about and especially you know if i would have had somebody to hold my hand when I was 13 and be like, Lindsay, it's going to be okay. Or hold my hand when I was 21 when I was a lot older and still say, Lindsay, it's going to be okay. You didn't do anything wrong. I would have healed so much faster. But I didn't. And, you know,

every survivor has their own journey and has their own timing. But I wanted to finally write a song about it. I called one of my friends Brandy Clark because I feel like she's such a great songwriter and so great with her words. And so we wrote a song called Make You about it. And then through that song, I was able to launch my own foundation. Yes. It's awesome. It feels so early in my career to launch a foundation. And then at the same time, it's like, this is the perfect time because I feel like I just need to put my money where my mouth is. And I really do feel that music has like very wide arms that it can help people and it's the unifying language to kind of bring us all together and so yeah my foundation

is called the make you movement and it's focusing specifically on disenfranchised youth and survivors of sexual violence and domestic abuse that's incredible so how can people um like can there is there somewhere that they can go look um do more research about this yeah absolutely all the links um to my foundation are on my website as well as you know in my instagram profile or whatever and um and And we also have other links there where they can research up if they want to learn more just about, you know, it's crazy too when I started talking about this and I released the song, Make You, I got thousands of DMs from girls being like, I've never told anybody this before and sharing their stories with me.

And it was really heavy at first. And then I felt just such a huge responsibility because I'm like, wow. like this is sometimes the first time they're telling anybody and yet they're trusting me with their story and so um it's been incredible and i also am just so sensitive to all of it because i i really want to help people like the main intention of my foundation is just to help people know that they're not alone and to help them like progress their healing a little bit faster with however i can help. That's incredible. Good for you. I think there's so many people that don't want to believe that stuff happens. And I think same thing with, you know, racism even. People want to turn

eye to things that they don't want to believe is happening out in the world. And I think that this year has shown us that we can't do that anymore. And what happens when you do open up and, you know, people come together. Like we said earlier, vulnerability creates connection. And that's just what we need right now. It totally is what we need. Yes, everything with Black Lives Matter and everything has been such a good inclination of we need to be vulnerable. We also need to use our voices for good, whether you're talking to two people or two million people. I mean, by talking about things, it helps us connect with each other. And I mean, when you're a survivor from something, it like normalizes that shame. Right.

of you. I mean, I'm such a Brene Brown fan and she's like the shame researcher or whatever. But, but she says all these things and it's so true like to to really voice something that you feel shame about. It all, all of a sudden just brings it into the now and the present. And it kind of normalizes that feeling so you don't need to carry the weight of that every day. And it is so freeing when you can finally garner up the courage and it takes time. God bless. I mean, I didn't tell my parents for seven years after I was 13. So it takes time. But it is so freeing when you finally can get to that place to be like, okay, I'm going to own this. This is part of my story. This is a scar I'm going to wear proudly because it's made me who I am today. And it's made me appreciate

things in a different light than I never would have seen if I hadn't gone through that. And it also makes me grateful for, you know, the people, incredible people in my life and, and the fact that I've become stronger. Like when I was little, when I was in my teens, I, you know, I told my best friend, maybe, and that was it. And so I just felt like I always had this, like, big secret, but it was like this human superpower that, like, made me stronger somehow. Yeah. Isn't it wild to be in a place of acceptance and, like, self-healing, where you get, where you, where you, you can look back and say that happened for a reason and it made me who I am today. And like, there's so many people just stuck in the thick of the nitty gritty right now that don't see that

light at the end of the tunnel. But it always seems to come around and, um, you just have to really work on yourself to get to that place of acceptance. And that part of that is opening up and talking about it. So totally. It's like it's so hard to see that light at the end of the tunnel sometimes. But it is um it's so incredible to know hindsight's always 2020 but everything that happens to us whether it's bad relationships or relationships that didn't work out or difficult things from our childhood i mean they all carve us into the humans that we show up as every day you know in in the most beautiful way we're like messy puzzle pieces that wouldn't be the same without all of that crap.

It's like scary and also exciting to know that there's still so much more to come. Like we're in our 30s, we're only going to grow more and go through different experiences and ups and down. It's like, oh gosh, it's like scary, but also so exciting at the same time. It is so terrifying because, yes, you're like, oh my gosh, I haven't even gotten to the tip of the iceberg yet. Like, what more could there be? And then also the other half of me in the same moment is like, bring it on, universe.

I've got this. Yeah. Whatever you throw me, I mean, I'll figure it out. I got this. Now we've gathered all the tools we need and we have resources and we have Bray Brown. And we have Bray Brown. Hallelujah. God bless.

Renee Brown. My gosh. Sometimes I've just sat and listened to her or watched her YouTube or just anything. Like, she is so awesome. Like, I just love the way she carries herself. She has such important things to say. She's so humble and like just, I just, I mean, I have a crush on her, I think. I think I do too, actually.

And she just doesn't care what anybody thinks. She just kind of is like, this is who I am, this is what I do. And I'm here to talk about it. And I just, I respect that, you know? I respect the hell out of her. Yeah, that's Renee Brown. All right, wait, I have to tell you guys something. So the other day, I was wearing the cutest new white shirt.

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funny one to tell you i never have confessions because every week i podcast well i can't possibly have something crazy embarrassing to say every week but this time I do and I saved it for you so excited please do okay you know I've been working out really hard before leaving for LA so you've been crushing it what yeah oh I've been crushing it thank you I've been working so hard and this guy that I've been training with well we you know worth but I also trained with this guy Kevin and um he's like he's very proper like I don't want to say proper he's so nice he's so kind but you can tell like like I got out of a workout and I went oh god damn and he goes she threw out a GD oh man oh lord like he's like that he's he's he's a big tough guy

but he's like really you know just this kind soul I went to send him send him a Venmo for the workout for the week and you know how you have to write a little note or a memo of what it's for yeah i always try and say something funny and this time i wanted to say this is for kicking my butt and i put kick in my butt and it changed it to lick in my butt and it said this is for licking my butt and i hit send without realizing it and i after i like looked i was like looking to my and i went oh dear god Like, okay, and what's so embarrassing, the worst part of this story is I had just told him something about a girl I had on my podcast. She was confessing something to me that she accidentally sent a picture of her boobs to her trainer. And he was like, I would not be able to look at her again.

I just wouldn't be able to train her anymore. That'd be it for me. And then I send him a freaking Venmo saying, thanks for licking my butt. That's amazing. amazing. He, I mean, obviously, he thought it was funny after I said it. Obviously, he didn't like my butt, but like, holy hell. Like, right after I said that, and you go, oh, I wouldn't be able to trade her anymore. And then I said, look my butt, God. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Okay. Well, I had, oh, gosh, I have so many stories. I have, like, a reverse confession that I want to say

after this. It was something that was funny that happened on the road. But you made me think, okay, kind of along that line. So I think it was Dan and Shay. And it was like their first number one or something. And I was so excited for them. And so I tweeted, I'm so excited at Dan and Shay. Congrats on your big song. Oh God. Did it say Don't? It was typing so bad. And I tweeted, congrats on your big time. And then I didn't realize it for a while that I put D instead of S. And so I think Dan replied back, and he obviously knew what I meant to say. But he was like, thank you.

And also, thank you. He, like, totally leaned into it. It was amazing. Yeah, not to you. Please tell me you got, like, so many retweets and you didn't believe it. Oh, my gosh. I don't think I did delete it because by the time it was out there, I'm just like, it's out there. I'm so embarrassed.

You got to watch, like, those little typos. At least Venmo's not public. but I was like, oh, I put it on Twitter. Yeah, Twitter. Okay, if I would have said that on Twitter, actually, I probably would have loved it even more because I would be like, oh, my God, that stuff. No, it would have been amazing.

It would have been amazing. typo. There's so many out there, and I just, Dong is a good one. Dong's a funny word in general. Dong is a really funny one. I know. Congratulations on your big dong.

Okay, and then my reverse confession. So I hired this stand-in-base player once to just sub in for us for a weekend. And he was really, really talented. And, you know, I covered a John Mayer record. I covered continuum like a few years ago. And so I think I had like a John Mayer song in my set or something. So we hired him for the show and sent him all the songs.

And then a couple hours later, I got this long text. And it was like, man, I'm just playing with another artist this weekend who wants. to be John Mayer. Ugh. I hate this. I'm over it. And he sent it to me. And so I read it.

And then I was like, uh, and then I see the bubbles go up. Yeah. And he's like typing and then the bubbles disappear. And then the bubbles come up again. And then the bubbles disappear. And then they finally send. And he was like, oh my gosh, Lindsay, I'm so sorry. I meant to send that to my brother, not you.

And I'm like, you. so you could have said I'm so sorry I didn't mean to say that but you you were going to say it you just meant to send it to your brother instead of me oh my God and so then the only person I told

I didn't tell the rest of the band because I didn't you know want to embarrass him or whatever but I did tell my day to day and when we were on the bus driving to the venue he didn't know that she knew but she talked about John Mayer for four hours She was like, hey, so what John Mayer songs do you like?

And we were playing John Mayer record. She just like dug it in so, so deep. He felt so bad. But that's the other thing. When you send the wrong text to the wrong person, it's the worst thing in the world that could have ever happened. Like, the worst. I mean, it always depends.

But the worst would be sending something to, like, your parents that you mean to send to, like, your partner. Yeah. Exactly. I luckily have never done that, but... Knock on wood. I know, me either. Oh, my God.

But that would be so embarrassing. And I'm sure that's happened so many times. Oh, for sure. I'm going to do like a segment on that and sell on my podcast. I'm going to just look up the worst. That would be so funny. Because it's like when you're thinking of the person, sometimes you type their name into the two line instead of in the text.

Yeah. Yeah. Bad. It's bad. It's pretty terrible. I'm not going to lie. You know what's so crazy. This can be a good confession, too.

I've never told anyone this. But I meant to send Cleo, my girlfriend, Cleo, a message about Jason. And I sent it to Sean when Sean was questioning me about talking to other guys. I accidentally, because we were broken up. Right, right. He was like, I just had this feeling that you're talking to somebody. And I was like, well, to be fair, like, we can both talk to other people. Right. I mean, we're, yeah, exactly.

But this was so long ago, like, and, and I accidentally sent a message to Cleo saying, I'm just going to tell him, Jason and I talk about finances, because that's the truth. And then he was like, you didn't mean to send that to me. And I was like, nope. I'm like, did not. Oh, God, I'm not. Yeah, that was the end of that. Oh, no. Well, whatever. It was over anyways. Yeah. yeah exactly if it wasn't that would have been real bad yeah yeah yeah yeah that's okay so we'll play

one quick game and then i'll let you go i love it it's it's just a little hypothetical game of if you could who would you so okay um if you could go on tour with any one musician would it be john mayer and why i mean i would love to tour with john yes because he is i just I'm inspired by his songwriting and his playing so much. Like, he's just so creative and smart to me. And anytime I watch a show that's like a masterclass on, like, how to do my job. So, yes, I would love to tour with John. I would love to tour with Sean Mendez, Ed Sheeran, Eric Clapton.

I know. Sean Mendez is Canadian. Are they Eric Clapton? Yeah. That's amazing. I think Eric Clapton has been like one of my guitar idols and I know all of those artists are in different categories but I would love to play a show with Eric Clapton

oh my gosh that would be like fuck it Liz yeah I mean that's that would be incredible if you could be quarantined with anyone female or male celebrity who would it be Renee Brown for everything Renee Brown would be oh my god imagine quarantine with Brne Blaine

amazing. Any time you have a down moment, you're like, Renee, I just need, I need, just like a better human Yeah, that would be ideal. Didn't, how have you been doing, um, uh, what is your live quarantine thing that you've been doing on Instagram? Yeah, I've been doing this little show called, yeah, Living Well. You're so cute.

That's so fun. They do, so it's on your Instagram live, right? Um, I started on Instagram and then we've moved to YouTube just because Instagram can sometimes get like kind of choppy a little bit. So yeah, we pre-record it and then do it every week. But it's just been fun. I just wanted something to like talk about positive news. Because there's so much not positive news. So I just wanted to break it up a little bit. It must be hard to come by the good news. People need that. That one account on Instagram is my favorite account, the good news movement. Me too. I love that page. It's so good. That's awesome. Okay, if you could have

unlimited concert tickets to any artist of your choice. Who are you picking? Okay, I can't say John Mayer. Yeah, we can. I mean, this is hard. I'll probably get super muso right now, like music nerd. My favorite guitar player in the world is Derek Trucks. And I'm also super into a band called Volpec.

Have you heard of them? No. They're like super muso. But, yeah, they're all just so incredibly. They all play different instruments. One of their lead singers, Theo Katzman, my band and I went out to one of his shows. And it was like just a religious experience. Like those concerts where you go to were just every note is perfect.

And so I probably would go like super music nerd and have unlimited concerts to like musicians that I just admire. Well, have you ever heard of Dermott Kennedy? Yes. I am obsessed with his music. and I've seen him live twice and that's like I feel every time I watch him I'm like he hits every note perfectly but so effortlessly and like maybe he doesn't hit it perfectly but just the way he sings it and is into it it literally sounds better than when I hear it like on I it's so funny what do you say now when I hear it on radio I know um streaming services when I hear it on my

computer my phone I don't know yeah but yeah he's incredible he's amazing i love dermot so much like his his writing yeah his voice is so unique he's he's incredibly talented oh he is uh okay if you could um i'm trying to pick because i'm only going to get two more in if you have to wear one outfit for the rest of your life what are you wearing great question i'd be wearing sweatpants yeah welcome to quarantine and like probably a crop top or a crop bunny hug. I'm going to incorporate this word into my vocabulary now. But yeah, I would definitely be wearing sweatpants, like some dope sneakers. Yeah. And like a crop top. I'm such a sneaker head. I mean, I love shoes so much, specifically sneakers. And

it's a problem. It is a problem, Caitlin. That would be me too. I would wear sneaks, sweatpants and like a crop hoodie and that would be like don't you love though that sweatpants is like a trend now like it's so in yes 100 percent i've never been so happy about a trend in my life like me too joggers like bring it on world thank you so much it sneaks that's like so cute now i'm like yes this is so my vibe me as well that's awesome okay why don't you tell everybody where they can find your music and the um is it is your youtube just under your name yeah it's just under my name so linds a l i n ds a y e l um i'm on instagram all the places youtube i'm trying to learn to be good at tic talk you're so good at ticot by the way i don't do it enough though i don't do it enough either

but i'm trying to learn to get better um and yeah heart theories out yes that's amazing congrats on everything you're just oh i forgot to tell you this last part This is a message from Brett Kissel. Oh, I love Brett so much. I was trying to get some dirt on you from him. I was like, do you have like an embarrassing story? Or can I like do a...

Brett knew my first boyfriend ever. Oh my God, he didn't even say that. That's so funny. He, of course, being the nice guy, he is. Brett, he is. He said, Brad Paisley said about Lindsay in Winnipeg. This girl plays better guitar than most people in Nashville and way better than me.

So I think that's a pretty epic question. quote. That's what he said. And he said, Lindsay and I have known each other since we were kids. We were both in a contest called Country Vocal Spotlight at the Canadian Finals Rodeo. We never won. We were both in a contest called Talent Explosion at Klondike Days in Edmonton. Both

never won it. We are both losers, but look at us now. Two Canadians crushing it. And her even more than me. She has a number one album, number one single with Brantley Gilbert, is BFS with Carrie Underwood, so fuck all the local suckers who won Talent Explosion. I love Brett.

He's winning at life. All the local. That's amazing. I love Brett Kistel so much. We have grown up together. We were in all of those terrible competitions that made me want to quit music when I was little. And yeah, I had my first boyfriend when I was 16

and we used to play this festival called Ivan Dane's music festival. And Brett, yeah, Brett knew my first boyfriend. We all used to hang out. That's so funny. Oh, God. I just adore Brett and his whole family. They're just real good. Just the best.

Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for doing the podcast. Thank you so much for having me. I cannot wait until we can have another porch wine hang. Yes, we need to do that because I leave very soon. We need to have another girl tonight. I am so excited for you and stoked for you and I'm so proud and we're going to have watch parties.

I'm going to leave the key in my lockbox and I'm just going to say whatever girls want go to my house and watch and then you guys can all vote and then we can send camera crews out because I think what this is my prediction I think they're going to not have a live audience I think they're going to um do live um remote audiences that's so fun though because then it makes it more personal yeah and then they could be like oh look at Caitlin's house we've got and then you guys could all be sitting there we look I love it yes and if it isn't that's what they should do but anyways yeah we'll have another girl's night I love a porch hang and wine and sushi and, uh, please, all of the things.

But yes, all of the things. Love you. And thank you for being on the pod today. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I'll talk you. I'll text you later. Okay. Bye.

I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Offre Vine with Caitlin Briscoe. Get new episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcast.1.com, the podcast one app and subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Who's not with OTV?