Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Lisa Vanderpump

Episode Date: January 19, 2021

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Here's Caitlin. Welcome to Off the Bind. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. And today on the podcast, I have an entrepreneur. a true queen, an author, a philanthropist, and well-known TV and now podcast, personality, who probably has entertained you these past months as you've been stuck at home. And I have to say the two of us have a lot in common. We're both obsessed with dogs.

We both made appearances on several reality shows, including Dancing with the Stars. We both like to indulge in a glass or two of wine while we podcast. And if that didn't give it away, or you missed the title of this episode somehow. Yes, it's the one and only legendary Lisa. Vanderpump. I fell madly in love with this woman. We had so much fun talking together. And you can actually catch me on her podcast coming up soon called All Things Vanderpump. You guys are going to enjoy this. Oh, I love to talking to her. She's such a true queen boss. Everybody enjoyed the podcast. Usually if this was later, we'd obviously be having wine, but it's quite early in the

morning today, isn't it? Well, you're about lunchtime. So you can go ahead without feeling guilty. That's true. I've got 13 minutes to it. it's past noon, and that's when I decided that I don't feel guilty anymore. But if I drink in the day, I want to go to sleep. I mean, when I lived in France, I would drink in the day because I lived in France for six years. And then it was just, yeah, you'd take a little siester or whatever. Isn't that the way to do it?

I know. What's wrong with America? America's just like, everybody's so kind of angry now with what's going on. And it's just that everybody needs to relax and calm down and enjoy a beautiful. lunch together and you know it's so divided it's so aggressive it's scary i agree i i lived okay so i lived in germany for a little while and i really loved europe and i loved the european lifestyle because it was just even though germans are quite aggressive and they can seem angry they're not it's just who they are the language is very kind of officious isn't it i mean yeah yeah whatever they say

they sound angry yes i i always joke that this guy at the grocery store was yelling at me once and i was like, are you flirting with me? I don't know. I can't tell. That's so funny, but I love to like so. Everybody just goes and has like a glass of, actually, I was all my way to the gym once. It was like nine in the morning and I had a mug and the guy comes in the elevator and he goes, beer. And I'm like, no, it's coffee. You like, I didn't understand. I know. Well, I lived in France for seven years. Wow. Yeah. It was really beautiful. We lived in the south of France. It was really, but the crime was pretty bad. Oh, really? petty crime, like the handbag stealing and the opening your car door and taking a handbag out of

your, all that kind of stuff was pretty bad in the South of the Times. That's scary. Beautiful, but scary. Yeah, because wherever the money goes, you know, like in the South, there was a lot of problems there with house break-ins and things like that. Did that ever happen to you? I had, we had that kind of carjacking, you know, where they take your bag out of the car. That happened a couple of times to us.

We had a break in before we moved there when we wrenched a house where they just kind of come in and grab whatever they can. But it's not kind of like guns or, they do this thing where they gas people. They put the gas through the air vent or under the door. Everybody goes to sleep. Google it. You'll see. This is in the South France. Everybody goes to sleep.

And then you wake up and your butt really hurts. No, it's not. It's not your butt. I'm just joking. You wake up and all your stuff's gone. That didn't happen to me, but that happened to either side of us where we lived in the South. Yeah. Absolutely terrifying.

Was this you and your husband were there for that long? Yeah. And the kids went to the International School of Nice. You know, niece, when you joined, niece, it's something. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That is terrifying.

That is, you know what? That's six years. That probably hardened you up. You're probably like, bring it on. I can take anyone. I mean, I'm always scared, but there's other things to be scared of here. The earthquakes here terrify me. After the 94 Earthquake.

which actually was this week, which was today. Oh, really? Yeah, in 94, the Northridge earthquake. You were probably in diapers. But, yeah. Nine. I was nine. Yeah, exactly.

And that was so scary. So that terrifies me, that whole feeling being out of control, the whole house shaking, and the fires. I mean, both things. Yeah. In England, you don't really have to deal with any natural disasters that might, apart from Brexit. Right, right.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it is scary. I've experienced my first earthquake for the very first time when I was in L.A. for dancing with the stars. And I did not know what was happening. Like the pictures were banging on the walls. And I was like, what is this? And then I was like, wait, was that an earthquake? And then I googled. Oh, was that just an attempt. Yeah. Well, it's definitely not me because I was exhausted and sleeping and definitely not having any walls. I feel your pain. I remember that very well. Gosh. Okay. So I would say nice to meet you, but we just did your podcast.

and have such a nice time. So tell me about how, because you just started this podcast recently, right? Yeah, because through, you know, COVID, I really wanted to be proactive and to do things that I hadn't necessarily had the time. I'm actually writing a book, my second book, because my first one was on entertaining,

but that was like nine years ago. Right. And I'd been approached to do a kind of book about inspiring young women and talking to them on a business level, emotional level, personal level. So I hadn't ever really had the time to do that. I've done something like 400 episodes of reality television over the last nine years

and been opening restaurants and opening the Vanderpump Dog Foundation. So in COVID, I actually, even though I took complete care of the house, and normally we have two or three people to kind of help. I had nobody in the house for nine months. Yeah. And that was kind of empowering because I felt that, okay, how am I going to cope with all of this? It's a big house on my own, but I kind of really, you know, I did everything. I love cooking anyway, but the laundry, the cleaning, I kind of totally took control of it.

But it also gave me a chance to reflect and to write a lot. And then I thought, I really love talking to people. And I'd been asked to a podcast and I kept thinking, I just don't have time to do this. But I've managed to get it off the ground during COVID. So it's also been a great thing for me mentally connecting with people. Because we were so isolated and I really didn't see anybody hardly at all. Yeah. And when do you really get a chance to just sit down with somebody? No distractions and have a genuine like conversation about important things. And that's what podcasting does. And it forces you to just have this authentic conversation that is so in the moment, which is what I love. I've had. Yeah. And I've met so many wonderful people that had so much fun doing it. One of the things I have to say, Caitlin, is I really like is I've used FaceTime as well, much more. Because I feel that you do connect. more with people.

Sorry, it's like my dog's apart. Oh, that's okay. Background. It's like always. So that, what was hard as well was losing Jiggy through this because Jickey was just our love dog and he was the face of our foundation and so much of what we did. In fact, I'm going to show you here. I'm going to turn around here and you'll see I still have a shrine to him where he died there,

those flowers there. So it's been like only just a few weeks. but we still have where he died just a little shrine to him because that was a place he always was there in his basket so we just kind of yeah it was very difficult losing him he was our love dog totally i cannot even imagine like i obviously dread that day and i try to not think about it but it's like that it is such a part of your family it's this unconditional love that people who don't have dogs you if you have one you know what we're talking about but people who don't And he was so small and he was so challenged.

He was so compromised and he needed so much looking after. You know, in the end of his life and the last three years of his life because he had a heart problem, he was actually on Viacra. He was taking Viacra to open up his blood vessels. I kept saying, Ken, you do not touch any of that shit. Like you put that in the, and Jiggy's food. You did not be going in. No way.

That's a thing. Yes. Yes. Well, Jiggy, also his name was Jigolo. It's only natural. he would end up on Viagra at some point. I mean, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Initially, they discovered Viagra for opening the blood vessels or for some other and then everybody's walking around with a hard on. So not the jiggy had Arda. Does Viagra do that to

dogs too? Yeah, well, I would chalk to his nuts off anyway. So there wasn't much going on there. And speaking of dogs, because we talked about this on your podcast, but just for people who aren't listening explain everything that you have done with the with rescues and because you do so much important work and it's very impressive what you've done and it's i can only imagine so rewarding but you were saying that you've found loving homes for over 2,000 dogs and i'm just like bow down to you for that that is incredible but i want people to know even though i'm sure everybody knows because you are well but tell everybody one of the most incredible things that housewives gave me i mean the whole experience on housewives I really, I do still kind of revere the fact that, you know,

it was such an incredible franchise and everything it gave me. And people, even in Congress, were watching Housewives. So they saw our march, you know, against Hewlin. And they contacted me. We passed a resolution, House Resolution, 401, which condemned the dog meat trade. We were involved with the Pact Act, the prevention against cruelty and torture of animals, bleaking it, a felony instead of a misdemeanor.

We did a documentary called The Road to Eulin and Beyond that I produced with Ken and my partner, Dr. John Sessa, who works in the, is the sected director of the Bannepump Dog Foundation. And that's on Amazon, right? Yeah, that's on Amazon. And that really is a true insight to what's going on. And it's hard to watch it, as we talked about, my podcast, don't look away, you know. Yes. And then we opened the Bannepump Dog Rescue.

Initially, what we wanted to do was we wanted to get into the bum part of it, create business and dog clothes because jiggy was wearing before we got into dog rescue. And then we saw Yulin and we got so sidetracked by that. Then we just started thinking we wanted to do something domestic. And finally, we've just brought Vanderpump pets, the collars and the leashes and all the things and the clothes. And we've just launched it on Zappos, which has been really exciting, start a new business venture. But everything we sell in the band of pump pets in the center,

all the profit goes to the dogs. Because to keep that dog rescue center going in Los Angeles has been really, really challenging because financially our restaurants are being closed and that's been really stressful. And so to keep the dog foundation, one of the things to, you know, these dogs are expensive that we find them on the side of the road.

They get brought in, broken bones. They need spaying. neutering and a lot of medical treatment to get them up and running. And, you know, we kind of rely on donations. I fund a lot of it personally as much as I can. Ken and I do that. We've been doing a lot of cameos, which have been great. I've done something like 650 cameos and all the process. I have time for this. You are amazing. I literally like, hey, hi, happy birthday. And all the proceeds go to the Band of the Dog Foundation. I want to thank everybody that's kind of booked our cameos.

So 100% of that goes. And that's really helped. But yeah, we've saved over 2020 dogs in 2020, ironically. But we've also got hundreds of dogs in China as well that otherwise would have been tortured, slaughtered. And a lot of people don't understand because they'll say, you know, it kind of makes me crazy. And people say, don't you care about humans?

yes that's why I've been awarded ally of the year for supporting LGBT community yes that's why I've worked with children burns unit that's why we fed their homeless for 12 years every Monday before housewives and everything you know from our restaurant in Beverly Hills I do care about humans but this was a cause that I chose and I'm available to support and do support other things and a huge LGBT activist but this was something that's close to my heart. And I just want to encourage people, choose something that you love or get involved. I don't mean when celebrities say, oh, I'm involved with this is walking down the red carpet or showing up an event. We can all do that. But do something proactive, you know, whatever it is. I mean, the homeless

situation here, we cook meals for 12 years from our restaurant, Bill of Blank. Why do more restaurants do that? You know, more restaurants. I don't know. Just we brought our staff in like a couple of hours early every Monday. We'd cook all soft food because there's a lot of dental problems with. I used to serve it before I got so crazy busy every week and that was pretty sad to watch.

There's a lot of people that, I mean there's some people that want to be homeless, but there's a lot of people that, you know, just living below the poverty line. So we'd always kind of be involved with that. That was something that was really close to our heart. But yeah, the Dock Foundation, I digress, but the Dock Foundation is

you know what? If you come in, I I really want you to come in. I will. And we do the Dog Foundation gala every year, which is a real, feel good, very glamorous. We have unbelievable help. Mario Lopez hosts it every year for me, who I have to say, is probably the nicest person on the planet.

Really? And the lowest maintenance person on the planet, Mario Lopis and his wife, Courtney, this is what they're like. You know how some celebrities are like, oh, I need this, I need blue M&Ms, I need this bullshit, that bullshit. I'm not like that. I don't even madness, isn't. But they're like, Mario's like this.

yeah okay what time do you want me to be there uh yeah uh do you need a no we're fine um okay tell me what he want me to say and he hosts it every year and he is i will never forget his you know him and his wife they're just such wonderful people so yeah we do that nice when you hear those stories too because i i actually have met him and he seemed so lovely and i love hearing that because i just think it's so important when you know people everyone needs to be a little humble here but that's so great that he hosts it because what a great host to have for that. Oh, he's perfect. And we have some unbelievable, you know, performers.

I mean, Leone Lewis has been a big supporter of us as well because she's got her own animal rescue in England. And there's just a lot of people just have been extraordinary, you know, and I'm really thankful for that. But the animal, the dog rescue center in LA has got a real feel-good factor about it. I mean, you walk in, there's music playing, the dogs from living rooms unless they're in isolation before you know that we know what's going on with that they're in living rooms the music's playing and sit down on the couches and you can kind of in track with the dogs it's not a sad

situation where they're going to be euthanized all the dogs we've I mean we have a couple of dogs that've been there a long time because they can't get adopted however much we want to you know I've only ever taken one from the rescue center binky boo that I've got here she was so depressed we thought she was really she couldn't communicate at all she'd been in a cage for so long but she now is the naughtiest little scamp she's a wheat mix and she's really really come into her own so they're just looking for a second chance even that true it's like you can the dogs can seem so depressed and all they need is like love and I just think that is the most magical they just need love and then they're like a new dog it's so that's so true that's all they want they just want

to be loved, fed, that's unkind hands, you know? And my rescues still react differently to me. Like, I've got, you know, one dog that was gift by Cocker Spaniel that you saw shagging me in my focus, right? Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, it's always like that. But I can smack him hard on the tail. I can chase him.

I can run around after him. And he's just so secure, but my rescues, if you kind of even put your feet near them as you walk apart, they're kind of like a little scared because of what they've endured. And I wish I could talk. I wish I could, you know, but we see a lot of very, very hot, you know, heartwarming, but heartbreaking stories as well. Of course. And so where can people go to, you know, I know you said that the cameos help and that you,

you know, fund a lot of it yourself, but obviously it can always take all the help I can get with helping these dogs. So where can people go to? To vandapumpdogs.org. And I'll tell you what, Caitlin. even when we have the dollar donations every because we don't have we don't take any money from the foundation we don't have a big board of like so many and i'm not knocking other organizations but we don't have people sitting there with wages and stuff like that we're involved it's our foundation um but it every penny and especially you know that we earn in the rescue goes directly to the dogs and it makes a lot of difference yeah that's i did some work with the covenant house in vancouver And I remember, because we do a sleepout every year where we talk to homeless youth and we sleep out. I know Covenant House so well.

I've worked with them so many times and they've been on Vanderpenterpuncles and it's such an incredible, you know, this halfway, the transition and what they do. It's brilliant. And that was really awesome to me because I lived in Vancouver and there was a lot of homeless there. And I've talked about this so many times on my podcast that I always was so naive and had that like, well, what, like, why are they just. asking for money on the street. I was so naive. And then being involved with Covenant House, my eyes were really open to everything.

And so I've loved doing any kind of work with them. And that was what I did with my Instagram story. I said, if everyone watching right now just donates one dollar. Yeah. And they did. And it was incredible. Well, thank you for that.

And if everybody, yeah, watching, like, donates the dollars of the Vanhumped Dog's dot all. It really, really does help. But with Covenant House, you know, another thing they really need, we donate a lot of clothes. We, like, take our coats, which they're always so well received. I've done dinners for them and sir. You know, some of the kids have been to a restaurant and stuff. We've highlighted them on Vanderpump rules, but they're really truly. And they help the kids learn how to manage money and save and things. It's a very, very, very, very clever, good, wonderful organization. Thank you to them from the Covenant House that you don't even learn in school that are important things to just about life. I thought, I find that so interesting but I mean you do so much important work and you and your husband are so

involved in so many different things and I know dogs would help during a pandemic but I always want to know how people's relationships go through the pandemic because you guys have been together for 30 how many years? We've been married 38 years yeah I listen I'm being honest he's lucky he's still alive right now because I tell you I've been I think he really does appreciate because I really did say okay we're not going to drop our standard of living we haven't got anybody here to help us and it's a big house that needs a lot of work but I enjoyed I actually enjoyed kind of taking care of everything even though it was very much a full-time job I love cooking I'm one of those women I do not see cooking as a chore I could make something different

every day so I love that um I think that yeah it was good to be able to talk to other people because, you know, and Ken doesn't talk as much as me. Sometimes he just grunts. And I'm like, this is a conversation, Ken. It requires more than just, oh. So a bit of that. But I think, I mean, we know each other so well because we've been together so long. Hey, you've been together so long. Was there anything that you learned about each other through the pandemic and, you know, being just the two of you and having more time and all of that? Or were you kind of like yeah we've been together this long you know i think i we no i don't think we learned anything about but i i need a lot of stimulation and i don't mean sexually i mean i need a lot of stimulation in fact

i like to talk a lot so i did kind of get busy i have a couple of great friends that i would soon for but yeah i mean we spent a lot of time together you know on our own before but this has been a different thing but doing things like laundry i'm being honest, I'm hands on. Everybody knows that I don't even have an assistant and I'm really a hard worker. I haven't done my own laundry in years and I was just like, I was doing this laundry and I said to my friend, I don't get this drier situation. You know, like this, why is it? Well, the clothes still wet. I've been doing this like three months putting it. And I realized it had a filter. I hadn't changed a filter. I'm lucky I didn't burn the house down. Hey, my gosh, fire hazard. I know. And it's like,

they were like have you changed a filter and I'm like what filter and they're like the filter and I pulled it out and I swear to God it was about that thing and I suddenly realized that I was lucky we didn't burn house. It's funny though because you are such a hard worker you have so many things going on you do you're such an independent woman who just you know I feel like like with laundry you're like well if I have to do it I'm going to do it but you have so many things on the go I find it's so funny that laundry is one thing that you have never you don't do yeah and I start to okay this is a science. So I'd be doing a spray and wash. I'd be separating the this and that. I'd be like a real pain in the ass. As soon as I know what I'm doing, then I'm the authoritarian on it. Like, don't put that

in that machine. I got this. But I was ironing everything. I on. He's like, why do you need to iron my underwear? I'm like, iron everything. Really? I don't even know how to iron. Oh, I like the ironing actually. And also the ironing, I would take my tablet downstairs. Not my pills. I meant my my iPad and I would either watch something or talk to somebody and I found that quite therapeutic. So yeah, I, yeah, but the most difficult thing for me was closing our businesses because there's a lot of people, you know, that have worked for us for years and it's just, it was hard to close down. You know, it's everything we know. It's not just our livelihood.

It's our life. We're always in our restaurants. Yeah. I mean, that's the one industry that is pretty much affected. you know, during the pandemic, the worse. And you guys... A lot of people won't come back from that, Caitlin. A lot of restaurants will not reopen because...

It breaks my heart, because I worked in the restaurant industry for 12 years, and I loved it. It's what I wanted to do. I was trying to work. Oh, what did you do? A waitress. I did everything. So I started as a hostess, then I went to a waitress, then I was a lounge server, then I was a bartender. Then I did ship...

Did you watch Vanden Pub Rules then? You know what's so funny? Is that show to me is one that I need to watch. You know how you don't watch The Bachelor or Bachelor? Right. Oh my gosh. I have, everybody in my life has told me Vanderpump is a show that you would be so obsessed with because I love the restaurant industry. And I know the show and I know the people. But oh my gosh, it's just, it's so funny because I would have thrived on that show. I love you. I should. I would put you on that show. Come on then. I need you to. I think it's so sad about the, you know, the restaurant industry and what's going on. And I know you guys had to permanently close one of the restaurant. And so what are the status of your other ones? Well, Villablanca, the lease is up like this month anyway. And we knew it was impossible really to, you know, it wasn't set up for takeout.

And it couldn't possibly survive just on takeout. I mean, the rents, I mean, extraordinary there. And the lease was coming to an end. So we knew that basically it's been a 13-year lease. We've had it for 13 years. It actually expired during COVID. so that was just going to happen anyway but obviously it was kind of, you know,

accelerated because of COVID. And also it doesn't have huge outdoor dining whereas Tom Tom, Pump opened for a while and Sir was open for a while and then they shut us down again and we had very strict guidelines. And I'm not sure that they've made the right decision in California be so stringent.

But I think they were so scared with the hospitals and everything being so full and just thinking shutting down, But what we saw, and I don't want to be an advocate for opening up, I think that's got to be, we just got to follow guidelines. But I see your dog behind you. That's so funny. I know. So me.

It's just like, I'm sitting on my dog. Yeah. I think that we were very, you know, stringent and strict with the rules. And everybody was very safe and the distancing. And I've seen a lot in California, you see people having parties, their apartments, and things like that, or is at least when the restaurants were open, they could actually go out, sit outside, and actually interact and be social without being endangering. That's a good point, actually. And I also wanted to ask you, how do you think people should be supporting their local

restaurants right now? Well, I think that as soon as the vaccine gets going, I think we're just going to come back stronger than ever. I mean, it's been a very tough year because we're still paying rents and insurances. What makes me laugh is that people think, you know, they talk about me like, like I'm made of money. We work. If I made money, I would be sitting in bed with a box of bonbon, you know, whatever, or sitting in the Caribbean doing diddly squat.

Yeah. But we have to work. We're working people. Yeah. So, yeah, as soon as that gets started, I think the restaurants will do very well because we've got big gardens. Vegas has stayed open and that's been busy. I'm opening another restaurant in Vegas. actually I'm in the middle of designing that, so I'm very excited about that.

That's awesome. I know. The news hasn't come out. And then I'm doing other stuff, other TV, which I'm not allowed to talk about, but that would be announced in the next week or two, I think. Well, I feel, are you allowed to announce the new ABC show? Yeah, that has been announced. Oh, that's good.

Yeah, so I'm excited about that because we're big advocates of dog. Yeah, that's going to be all about dog grooming and that's going to be a lot of fun. that for me, it's just a pleasure. One of the executive producers, Ilan Gale, have you met him yet? Oh, he's the showrunner, right? He's the showrunner. Okay, he was, he's somebody I'm still very close to,

but he was the executive producer on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, and he's brilliant. Yes, I met him on Zoom. Love him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fantastic. Oh, that's so exciting. So you're going to be one of the judges on the show.

Yes, yes. And then I've been doing another dog show of NBC Peacock, which was announced. so we've been doing that. And then there's something else very exciting that's just about to happen. I think they'll announce in a couple of weeks. I've been busy. I have been busy.

All right. I'm going to take a second. And I'm sorry to get all nostalgic on you guys. But lately I've been thinking about how far things have come since we were little kiddos. I always think back to my favorite childhood TV shows and movies. Like some of them hold up, some of them not so much. But they're definitely classics. I also used to love playing classic games, doing puzzles.

and one thing that has definitely become a new instant classic for me is Best Fiends. The top-rated mobile puzzle adventure I'm sure you've been hearing about. I miss that, you know, that excitement of winning a card or board game when I was little, like Little Caitlin. And that's one of my absolute favorite parts about Best Fiends. I just get the best little rush of adrenaline every time I beat a level or find a new move and a puzzle. And I also love that feeling of telling my friends who also play that I'm further than them.

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Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. You probably love being busy because you do so much and it's just, it's honestly so impressive everything that you do and all these shows. And I wanted to ask too because you were on Real Housewives. Obviously, there's not going to be as much drama on the doggy show because. because it's dogs. Yeah. But how did you deal with all of that?

Because I, I mean, just from even talking to you on your last podcast and seeing, you know, you're very, you have a good sense of humor. You, I feel like you just wouldn't, you know, start the drama. I hate it. I hate it. Yeah. How did you deal with that? And I mean, obviously, it was such a good business opportunity because I love that they

were able to showcase like your important work and get, you know, another platform. to have that be talked about on and that's incredible, but how did you deal with all that drama? Well, I just you know, I'm very honest person, so I think when people think the drama's manufactured, it's not. Right.

Maybe you would, you just say, just probably like on the battery, if somebody says, oh, come on you like him, then go tell him you like him, rather than you might keep quiet. You don't want to be quiet when the audience is thinking it. You know, you've got to so you kind of speak up. What I really hated more than anything,

thing and was really, really hurtful. I pride myself on being, you know, a good person, not when I say God-fearing, I hate to use that word, but a religious person and a mother where my children have been my absolute priority in my life. When you swear, you know, on your children's lives, that is not true. To me, any friend of mine that ever said that to me, that's enough. You never have to stay anymore. So to be called a liar by people that I don't really respect or a sniper, you know, things like that, you know, well, I mean, we've seen all the crap that's going down, you know, with her.

Right. And when I have all of them screaming at me, you're a liar. Yeah. I thought, no, I'm not, you know, and it didn't behoved me to have our Vanderpump Dog Rescue out there with one of our dogs ending up in another shelter. you know it so i was just like no that's everything we fight against we pull so i was just like and to have such a good friend like question it i no no i mean you're at a point in your life where you know what you need and you know what you don't need and that's something you don't need but she did that every season i felt kyle did that every season yeah that's so unfortunate i mean

you probably learned a lot and you know you you got to have your businesses be showcased in Like, you know, you did it, but you wouldn't do it again. I really have a lot of respect for the franchise and the whole premise of it. And what it gave me is I said, it really, you know, gave me so much. And I love that. And I love that experience. And I don't want to denigrate that show or the game. But I just got to a point where I was in an emotionally unstable place in my life.

And I've talked about that. I, you know, I talked about that at that time. It was for about four or five months, you know, and I went to grief counseling and I took some antidepressants and I kind of then understood you could see the light at the end of the tunnel. But I just wasn't in great shape when he died. It was so unexpected. And I think it was suicide. It radiates so many feelings. And being my only sibling, it was, you know, I met Ken through him.

He lived with me for years. It was, it was just, yeah, it was devastating. It was beyond devastating. I can't imagine and I'm so sorry for that and I think I love that you're open about you know there's so many people who feel shame around how they react or how they are when depression hits or medication or anything like that and I'm always so open with it and I understand that's hard for some people but I appreciate that you're also honest and open about that and how it did help you I yeah because I'd never I'm very English where you know almost um I remember here when the children went school and they said, who's your family therapist? And they wanted me to fill this form in. And I said, family therapists, we don't have a family therapist.

You know, in England, it's put yourself to that kind of thing. You know, you know. And so for me, I'd never had therapy. We'd never had marriage counseling. We've probably needed it. We've never had it. But it's like, so when I was just like, I cannot see my way out of this fuck. I cannot see.

And when I went to this grief counselor, one of the things he said to me, which made so much difference, he said, this is something that you're dealing with that is going to get better. And time is a healer. And I want you to understand that. And I want you to look at the light at the end of the tunnel because there is a light there and you will get there and you will start to feel differently about it. And that was really helped me, you know. And it was very difficult. I lost my mother a year later, which was, you know, it is a very tough year. And then Jiggy this last year.

So it's been a very strange three years. It's almost like when the phone rings, you're thinking, oh, God, it's like, and my mother died very unexpectedly, you know, so, but that was a very different thing. You know, she was older. She was 85. Right. But, yeah, with my brother, it was very difficult. And I encourage anybody, you know, mind you, say, encourage people.

sometimes it's expensive to go to this and people can't afford and right now they can't. But I do think having worked with the Trevor Project, suicide prevention, which I never thought it would touch my life for suicide. I just worked with them and did all their PSAs because I was such an advocate for people reaching out. And then that happened in my life. So my own brother took his life. So you said people can go there for help?

What was it again? The Trevor Projects are really wonderful organization. but it's for the LGBT youth people are struggling with a sexual orientation and sometimes, you know, way more likely to commit suicide than their straight peers, you know. So it's a really great organization

that I've worked with and I always do their PSAs or whatever they want. I just never expected, you know, suicide to touch my life. And I think my brother, it was, you know, it was a bit of mistake rather than he was more of a cry for help

that went wrong. Right. Oh, gosh. Yeah. sorry, that's, that's three lost. Anyway, I don't want to bring it down. I want to talk about the, you know, no, that's, we'll bring it back up. I think that's important stuff. And, and again, like, that's, that's a lot in one year. But, um, oh, in three years, in three years, over, yeah, three years since, uh, 18 to, yeah, to 20. Have you ever suffered any loss in

your life or not? I have. It was, um, one of my best friends, childhood friends, she was in a really tragic car accident when I was about 19 years old. She was 18. And it still affects me to this day. And I was saying this on Dancing with the Stars, I actually dedicated a dance to her. Did she die? Yeah. Yeah. And it was kind of like she was like a sister to me. We did everything together. And oh gosh. Yeah. Years later and I'm dedicating this dance to her. And it still feels surreal to me. It still feels like it happened yesterday. It still just grief hits so hard. unexpected times and you're right like i'm glad that the that therapist said that to you because the time does heal but grief still hits so hard out of nowhere and you just never know when it's

going to happen i don't think you ever get over it you just get used you just get used to it and yeah and it's just a sudden shock of there's no time but goodbye says nothing it was like a hundred percent and then it was gone it was yeah it's very hard so i think one of the things it makes you realize is that, you know, we have to reach out to either to friends or, and I think through the COVID, as I said, on my podcast, I've used FaceTime a lot. And I think I really encourage people to do that because it stops you feeling so isolated, rather than just being on the phone, connect to people. And, you know, it's very, very important.

Yeah, it's not natural to be locked up like this. I think it's nice to you, because your podcast, you do full video and you're so great at having conversation and you i love how honest you are and so people should definitely definitely be listening to your podcast because i even felt just talking to you on it that it was like hanging out with a friend or even people who listen and watch can feel like they're you know having some interaction or just i i realize this from living in germany and not speaking the languages you miss just hearing conversation too yeah for sure you know at the grocery store i used to just cry in germany because i'd be like i don't you're saying and it's nice into podcasts like that

where you can just feel like you're in on a conversation, you know what I mean? I've met so many wonderful people just on the podcast and people that you would never think that you would have anything common with but you want on the podcast just because you find them interesting and then you just connect on a certain level. I mean, I love talking. So I've just had so, yeah, such a great time doing it. But I also think it's very important because sometimes the life, we put forward is this one of kind of perfection like people are looking and everything's kind

of changed in instagram and body you know imaging and everything and i think it's good for people to know that even if you look like you've got your shit together most of the time most people haven't you know there there are things that are hard for everybody yeah and uh you're kind of able to be a little more raw and real yeah it and talk about those things and i love that podcast and just always authentic conversation and no drama. Yeah, exactly. And also, you know, coming from a good place, I think. I think that it's a time for kindness.

And, you know, it really is to look out for other people right now. You know, reach out to them and kind of try to listen a little bit more, if that's anything that we've learned. And there's so many people, you know, we were talking earlier about headlines and the stories and jumping to kids and the tough part about, you know, being somewhat of, I mean, I'm not on, I was on a reality show and then, you know, dance with the stars, but you're, you're dealing with that a lot and your shows are all so successful and everything you're doing is successful that everybody's constantly watching what you're doing. And there's a lot of obviously drama

in the past year with the cast of Vanderpump. And speaking of being there for people, like, how do you deal with that one? I mean, I know you probably don't have, or maybe you do have the power of casting. You probably have casting directors for the shows and stuff. Well, they could authentically work at the restaurant. I mean, of course, they're going to be people that come in that want to work at the restaurant because they want to be on the show. But if they're not qualified, you know, and they can't keep up with a pace, then that's not going to work. But going back to your point of things being written about, like I was talking just probably the only other time I've really spoken about it openly, was talking about

on another podcast a while ago and suddenly there's a headline out in one of the biggest news outlets saying Lisa Van Pumped depressed, taking medication, seeking counseling. I'm like, this was last week. I'm like, that is not true. That was then and it was circumstantial and this is now. So people are looking and because there aren't many people out and about now, you know, because all those stories seem to have gone away,

they're like, well, create bullshit. I've had probably three or four conversations in the last month of going, guys, take that down. Yeah, that is not true. And I will refute it and I will contest it and I'll tweet about it. Do you not make up crap. And I think, I don't want to say a victim. I don't want to be a victim of anything. But I do think we become a victim of bullshit.

And, you know, yeah. It is so unfortunate because that's actually something I fear when I podcast with somebody because I never want to take advantage of somebody. there's so many people that, you know, come off the Bachelor, Bachelorette, where they'll come on the podcast and they get scared because they've just, you know, gone through where they're a villain or they're this or they're that. And I always want to give people a voice for themselves to, you know, talk about what really it is and how this is really who you are and things that matter to you. And it's always my biggest fear that headlines are going to take something. Yes. And it'll be from my podcast. And I'm like, I don't want to be. No, that's not true. Like, listen to the whole thing. What's the worst thing that's ever been written about you? Oh, my gosh.

Probably that I cheated, which I never have, or that, like, there's a lot of slut shaming going on after my season of The Bachelorette with sleeping with more than one man. And I was like, well, it's The Bachelorette, and we all know that the fantasy suite happened. I'm the one that has actually been open to talking about it. Yeah. I was a lot of a lot of slut shaming going on. Do you think that is there pressure? How much pressure is there when you're on that show to kind of, you know, really end up kind of giving up more than you necessarily would?

I mean, they've changed the alcohol rules. I think, you know, you lose inhibitions with drinking. And I think that was like kind of an encouraged thing. It wasn't like they're pouring it down your throats or making you drink, but it was available where now it's not so much. and how have they changed it there's a two drink limit rule i don't remember the exact rules but it's like every hour you can only have like a specific yeah yeah yeah because they were just getting people were getting themselves into trouble and doing things that they wouldn't normally do and maybe i should implement that on bad at the pump rules i wouldn't

okay then people in the restaurant industry like they can handle or they can like handle more people without all but i'm actually surprised how much people can drink compared to myself i'm a bit of a lightweight i yeah i can't i can't drink that even when people start with a cocktail and then if i start with a cocktail i barely remember my own name through dinner i don't know where it goes my boyfriend always looks at me and says where does it go because i mean just drink like a bottle of wine and and a cocktail and be like oh really god okay i admire that. It's not something I should brag about, but it's... Well, yeah, I mean, drinking wine, for sure. We drink wine through dinner every night. I mean, people, yeah, we drink every day. I mean, yeah, especially

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The Vine with Caitlin Bristow. I was thinking because I always get people to do confessions on my podcast, which I'm going to make you do right now. But sometimes it has to do with drinking. Sometimes it has to do with peeing pants. There's all different kinds of confessions. To do with what peeing in your pants? Oh, people have told me some serious stories where I'm like,

wow, I can't believe they're actually sharing that with me on the podcast. But I wanted to know what kind of confession you had for me today that you are, it's like you're you're embarrassed but but you know that you shouldn't feel too much shame around it you're going to share it with me oh i've got loads of things what have you got a pen and paper okay well i do steal the products from the hotel room like well i i would like to try we used to be able to steal the bathroom just put it in your suitcase but now they've got wise to that and they'll charge you for it and i love a bathrobe so i'd like to steal that um i do take all the products and they probably think what a cheatscape and now the best way to do it is when

you see the trolley thing outside and they're cleaning the room yeah i love that i'm like all these little bottles i have a draw full of a little i like it when guests come over and then you have like yes exactly hell things for them to feel like they're staying at a hotel exactly thank you now i feel like you have indicated that's i am absolutely that's what confessions are for here So I'm stealing from my guests. That's what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah.

That's okay then. You know what? I do have a restaurant in Caesar's Palace. They're probably going to like empty it out now when I go in there. Yeah. They're like, on here. Watch out of her. Lisa Vandercom is on the way.

Oh, my God. Yeah, exactly. Well, I've got many more confessions, but you're only getting one. No, that's a great one. That's a great one. And before I let you go, I have a little segment where you do the same thing on your podcast where people ask questions. Of course.

And so I went to my Off the Vine Facebook group to get some questions and people that need advice on everything from dating to business and beyond. So I have a few questions for you. Anastasia wants to know what advice would you give on starting to date again? I'm at a loss where to start and I'm not a huge fan of dating apps. Oh gosh. You know what? I was talking to Nick Weil about that. I just think it's it's so sad with this dating app and people constantly looking to swipe again and look for the next person.

and look for the next person. I just think that you've got to have really like thick skin to be in that whole dating arena and really not take it too seriously because it's so disposable. But I do think with friends it's important to, you know, one of the things when people talk to me about marrying Ken is we have a lot of common goals

and things in common that we love. And I think people should really search for, you know, go, they can't right now, of course, because of COVID, but in a normal life, get involved in things outside of your job, things that you're passionate about. And hopefully then you start to meet people through that. And there's some connection. And I do feel when there's a connection to something or a mutual friend, people are more responsible.

I feel when it's this swiping or show up here, that sometimes they don't even bother to show up and, you know, that kind of thing. There's no input. There's no, what's the word I'm looking for? There's, there's no investment in it. They're just swiping and doing this. So for me, I would, next mentality. Next. Yes.

Yeah, like, and also give people a chance, you know, because sometimes people will surprise you. And I think getting involved, find your passion. And I'm all about that. You know, I always believe that when you kind of fulfill your passion and like me, having creative foundations, not everybody's going to be able to do that. but find your passion and do something extracurricular, you know, and get involved with people and go out and meet them in that old-fashioned settings

where you meet for a drink and it's not like, oh, look at him and oh, yeah. And I think all this casual sexting and all that, I don't think that's really good. I really don't think that's great advice because, I mean, meeting someone when you're doing something you love just shows right there that you have the same passions and the same, you know, that, yeah, things. I think that's a, I think that's a great way to meet somebody and it's, oh, it's so hard to do these days. But I think that's really, really good.

Well, I think when we get back to normal, yeah, or even if it's a charity thing or something you really want to support, you know, have you always been like since, like, from a young age, have you always been like entrepreneur mindset, like wanting to do all these things? Have you always been this way or what really started that for you? Well, I bought my own apartment by the time I was 19. I know that sounds ridiculous. I had no help from my parents at all, not a penny. I mean, since I left at 18 or a man, I was like working two jobs.

I have a strong work ethic. I had a job since I was like 13 years old, even though it was just in holidays or Saturdays or after school or something. So I was always quite driven. I think financially I wanted to be independent. And I think that's really important. And I don't care what you do, whether it's your baby. be sitting or you know what a dog walking or whatever it is i think you know finances it's not about

the money it's about the independence that it gives you but i got married at 21 so i was luckily enough i i was lucky enough to marry somebody that had confidence in me and allowed me to grow because i'm not the same person now at my age 39 years later that i that i was when i was 21 but i've had somebody that's kind of basically empowered me and I think that if you are in a relationship where your partner puts you down and doesn't support you and I'm not saying every idea I have is amazing Ken's going to say okay you're actually crazy because my latest thing is I want a chateau in France I want to you know blah blah blah whatever but but I'm not saying that but when you're truly you've making sensible choices if they do not support you and

feel good for you you are in the wrong relationship yeah and If you are not appreciated and validated and supported, that's not for you. Right. It isn't for you. I love that. That's a lesson I've had to learn over time, but it makes all the difference in the world. I've never felt more myself.

I've never felt more empowered. I've never felt independent in a relationship. Yes, exactly. You know, one of the things I've really enjoyed doing is a kind of shortcut. I'm writing a book at the moment. but a lot of it is about my life experiences and about the things that I have learned that I wish I'd known when I was younger.

And I really want it to be a book that young people can say, you know, wow, yeah, I mustn't invest too much in this or this is important. And so I've really had an interesting time doing that. And also... I was a lot to write about that. Yes, also I didn't have the relationship with my mother

that I would have wanted, you know, even though we didn't argue or, you know what I mean, I just didn't have that kind of very supportive relationship, which I, or tactile relationship, which I craved, you know, so I changed that around for my kids, you know. Like, they had to fight me off. That's one of the things, though, you learned so much from, from your parents of how you're going to be a parent, so. Yeah, yeah, or how not to be. Or how not, absolutely.

Alicia asked, what is your advice on getting a job with your dream company even when there might not be positions available? How do you get that foot in the door? Well, that, I mean, perseverance, yes. I talk about this in my book. God, I don't want to sell my books. It's not even published yet, so this is not the right time to all. Yeah, I, I'm never that. Look, of course we're impressed by qualifications and everything.

thing. But I'm impressed by people's energy and commitment and their passion for wanting to be involved. And it's not necessarily, you know, of course, it's great if you go to college. I didn't go to college. Ken didn't go to college. I was working by the time I was 17. So even though my daughter went to college and, you know, she's valedictorian at school and that's great, I'm not all about that. I'm about look at the business. What are you going to bring to it? Try and, you know, approach look for the opening wait, you know, and sometimes I've met people that have just, you know, found out where I'll be at a certain time and they've said, I want to work for you and I can do this and I can bring this. And that really impresses me. Yeah, like I was just interviewing

for a manager at one of my restaurants. And, you know, when you see the light in somebody's eyes and the way they present themselves, that goes a long way. That goes further than a college degree. And it's great if you can have both. I'm all about having both because getting a degree in education is basically a competition to show you're committed to something and you can succeed and look, I've got this to show for it. So that's fantastic too. But yeah. I always think of that because I didn't go to college or anything either. And you went to this college of bachelorism. I did. Yes. Nailed it. That's it. You're very successful. There you know. Why do you? Why didn't you go to college? That's interesting. I was just so focused on trying to pursue a dance

career. I wanted to be, I was really into hip hop, and I really wanted to be a backup dancer. And I danced every day, worked at a restaurant just so I could, you know, live and have a flexible schedule to be able to dance. So that's fine. And your mother being a ballerina as well, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen the new show on Netflix, Tiny Pretty Things? No. Oh, gosh. It's intense. it's kind of about the dance world and it's it's it's a series it's not a reality show but it's actually incredible the dancing i love um oh really yeah yes what have what have you been watching through through covid i've watched bridgetons have you just finished it i'm obsessed oh those dresses that was the time i was made for like come on it was incredible i said the same thing

i was like the wardrobe on the show i know everything amazing and i love the modern day twist and i just I loved that. I can't wait for season two. Yeah. No, I know. I love that too. And I watched a film, Rebecca. Have you seen that?

That was all in Monte Carlo. Oh, because I used to live in Montecarlo as well. So I love saying that. Oh, that was beautiful. But what's, so, yeah, an army hammer. What's happening with him? All that crazy stuff. I have no idea.

You know me. I'm like, you're telling me about all these headlines. I'm like, I don't know. Well, I only know from what people tell me, because I never read it. Like, friends go, oh, my God, have you? Isn't it? Yeah, salacious.

But yeah, Rebecca's amazing. It's an amazing film. I love great visuals as well. I'm all about great visuals. Visuals make me feel better, you know? Oh, me too. Okay, I'll look that one up. Okay, and this is the last question.

Go ahead. Because Jackie says society has over the years told women that as we age, you know, our prime goes down. We aren't beautiful, sexy anymore once we age, and men always seem to, you know, be perceived. just getting hotter with age, for example, George Clooney. But this person was saying, Lisa is a certified sex symbol. I'm curious about feeling confident and sexy with all the BS out there about women and aging.

Gosh, I never really think about aging. I have to say, I really, that's something I've always been open with. I'm not somebody that knocks five years off their age. I've been married to somebody who's 16 years older than me, so I've always felt young to them. So it's the, but I have the same energy that I've always. did when I was 30, I do think absolutely a thousand percent and I cannot impress on you young people and I'll keep your face out of the sun. You will reap the benefits from that because that whole era of people like getting baked and gone and I saw that and I'm lucky I didn't

go with that. I think exercise is key and I'm not talking about killing yourself in a gym every day. I'm talking about just even walking 45 minutes a day. You've got to keep that up. I'm thinking dressing, you know, like, I'm not going to, I don't want to walk around in a bathing suit anymore. I did that. I stopped that. I think that like 45 and said, okay, we're done. You know, I'm also about being age appropriate and stuff.

But I do think I always looked at women, even that were older and elegant and beautiful. And I like that. I'd like it something about saying, you know, when I look at somebody like Helen Mirren and the class and just the way she holds herself and the beauty in that, I think you look at somebody like Raquel Welch, who looks stunning or Jacqueline Smith. And you think, how old is she because they defy, but without looking, you know, going down that whole plastic route, I think that's a big mistake to do too much of that stuff. do a little bit of the Botox and things like that maybe a laser or something about all that crazy

no and then you look at other people and I mean I love Bridget Bardot because of everything she's done with dogs and animals but she like and then you look at racco wash polar opposites of how good

you know so I do think it's about taking care of yourself if it's important to you if it's not then who cares you know like don't bother it's also like a mindset it's about confidence and like owning just where you're at in life yeah yes yeah and you know

and enjoy like building up your knowledge as you've got older right i love like being able to speak another language or i love cooking i love designing you know really like don't waste your time because i think if we've learned anything from this is that it can go like that and especially with covid we've seen so many tragically young lives just lost when They had so much ahead of them. So I don't waste your time. Really have zest for life and passion. My word of 2021 is perspective.

Everything. Have a good perspective and outlook on where you're at in life, what you've learned, where you've been, where you're going, where you're headed. It's all about perspective. And I just love your perspective. I love your outlook on everything. I'm just like, I'm going to end this podcast with bowing down to you because you're incredible and everything you do.

And I just, I'm so glad I met you. I'm so glad we got to podcasts on each other's. Oh, me too. I've had so much. I mean, also, I bow down to you because you are so humble. And when I say that, I mean, that you've achieved so much and you have this zest for life. And also winning dancing with stars. I mean, come on.

I literally nearly killed me. So whoever's done that, you're incredible. You've asked a long time on Dancing with the Stars. No, no, no, I didn't. I did five dances. That's great. That was, I was holding, hanging on for dear life. But I just think that you.

you're going to go a long way because you're smart. And also, I really love to see your energy. I love that. And just to see that you've already started to create your own businesses, which I think is wonderful. And I want women, you know, stop like second guessing yourself and everything. You know, nobody's perfect. Everybody has a dimple on their ass or a zit on that.

You know, who cares? It's just like, stop looking for perfection. Just get on with it and do it, you know. and be kind to each other. And, oh, I can't say anymore. That was everything I wanted to hear from you. Thank you so much. And just, I'm like, I don't know how you can even remember everything,

but where can people find what you're doing? Oh, gosh, well, go to my podcast because I've had a great time doing that. And I really love that. You're so good at it, by the way. Oh, I've really, I love talking to people. So that's been a huge factor in getting through this nightmare. As I say, I'm opening another restaurant. I'm excited about that.

I'm doing my book. I've got, I mean, I'm working on quite a few shows right now. So you'll see me. I'll be back on the TV in next few weeks. I shouldn't say that, actually. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait. Yeah.

And come to Van Pump Dogs, you know, and check us out, banpup dogs.org. See all the things we do. If you go to our website, the things we're doing with veterans, the things we're doing with rehabilitation. I'm so proud of the team there, what they do. They're incredible people that are really like for the love of dogs. so yeah and you i'd love you to come to our gala or present something or i would do something yeah

honored i would absolutely honored we will keep in touch for sure you are such late and i absolutely get my phone number so we can text and everything absolutely i'm going to dm you on instagram right now yeah absolutely and tell that man of yours yeah he'd better step it up yeah i mean god people like you do not come along very often oh my gosh You're so sweet. Thank you so much and I'll see you in the DMs. Absolutely.

All right, darling. Big kiss to you. Bye. Bye. I'm Caitlin Bristow. That was Lisa Vanderpump and I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Briscoe.

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