Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Live Show With Nick Viall

Episode Date: November 19, 2019

Kaitlyn takes the stage in LA with Nick Viall and Blake. The two have wild past to dig through together. They talk about being friends with your exes and drama from Kaitlyn's season. We hear about the behind-the-scenes of their notorious on-screen break-up. Why was Kaitlyn cold on After the Final Rose? How did Nick feel that day? Stay tuned to find out! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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The front row is always so lit. I love it. One girl puked the other night. I was like, okay. Okay. Oh. Speaking of. I'm getting drunk.

All right. What? What? Oh, do we need to sit everybody down? Yeah, sorry, guys. We need to sit you guys down. It's okay. Here's how it goes.

Every single show. Yeah. Every single show, everybody gets hyped, which I love, and then everybody has to sit down. But you know what? Let's just keep it standing and then sit down because let's introduce my guests. he used to be one of my TV friends you could say somebody I like to finally be able to call a friend we're here in person on stage for the first time in years I couldn't be more

excited he's the topless guy you guys all follow on Instagram he's the host behind the vial files we've got some serious Nick fans in the house he's He's the founder of Natural Habits, Essentials, oils, who, that helped me with my anxiety today, by the way. He is also The Bachelor, still one of America's most eligible men. I can't wait to see what tonight has the store for us. Please welcome to the stage.

NerdVo! What the f, Blake? Get a song? I fucking try. I tried. Blake's really pissed at me. I don't even get a song. I'm going to have to get you to go back.

You need a song to come out to. I tried. Real cool, boy. Real cool. It's... Guys, guys. Oh, baby, it might seem like the crush, but it doesn't mean that I'm serious. Come back, come back.

Rewite. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome. Yes! Halen, I got to say when you walked out, you had some really great dance moves. I feel like you should be on Dancing with the Stars. Like, what the f***? Wow, Nick, that's never come up before. Have you been?

Oh. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. You should do it sometime. Right, yeah. I mean, I would love to, but there's a whole thing. Did you guys watch Nick on Dancing with the Stars? I have a funny story that you actually don't know. Okay, here's my story. So I moved into this house in Nashville three years ago. And I'm there and I'm like, look at me living in this nice little rural neighborhood. I'm just chilling. All my neighbors are retired. I really have no business being here. And I mean, Rosemary, my neighbor is probably listening to this podcast. So Rosemary, do not take this to heart. But she doesn't realize that she's living beside me who she watched on TV until 4.4.

months in so four months in she's like realizes and she she comes over and she rings the doorbell and she has half used soaps and half eaten dog treats and the soaps are from Christmas it's February and she goes well that's my program you know it's the bachelor's my program and I'm like well nice to meet you too I've been here for four months but okay it took you knowing that I was on the show to be a nice neighbor. Okay, so she brings me these half-eaten treats and the soap, and she walks in my front door and Sean's there, and she goes, I'm watching Nick on dancing with the stars, you know. I love Rosemary. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, can I not talk about that? She's like 79. What a sweetheart. Rosemary, we love her. And then she was like,

do you go to church? And I was like, no. And then she was like, you should. And then she was like, you should come with me one day and I was like great and that's how I met Rosemary but she came in and she talked about you the second she walked in my front door about rooting for you I mean I'm biased I love her but she kind of sounds like a little bit of a B you know oh no she well she just she she means she knew what she was doing no I don't think she knew what she was doing you don't think so no she's 79 she just it's her program she was trying to save you like she thinks we're characters on a show not real people. And now fast forward

to three years later I'll like do an Instagram store I'll be like Rosemary can you take out my garbage because I'm not home tomorrow and she does

she does she's a great neighbor anyways give it up for Nick everybody you should do an Instagram series with Rosemary wait what

you should do like an Instagram series with Rosemary like questions with Rosemary you little content creator of our generation that's what I would do if I live next to Rosemary

that's actually a great idea I have thought about having her on the podcast Yes. Stories by Rosemary. And she told me, she said, Caitlin, you come over one day. We'll have wine and I'll tell you stories. And I'm like, I would actually like to hear

what kind of stories Rosemary has. Probably pretty good. So anyways, hi everybody. I just want to thank you all for coming here. I'd like to thank the popsicle sticks with Nick's head on them for being so creative. I can't see you, but I love you very much. We are going to have a lot of fun tonight.

We've got some questions for Nick. we've got some funny things to discuss. We've got some confessions to confess. We've got games to play. It's going to be a really fun night. Buckle up. Girl on the phone in the front seat here if you'd like to pay attention. Up here.

I'm totally joking. Listen, she's on her phone a lot, too. I am. No judgment. It's one of my favorite things to do, like, heckle people, because it makes me feel like I'm like a comedian. I'm like, ah, you're in the front. Or like, if people go to the bathroom,

I'm like, oh, am I boring you? Because I think I'm funny. Anyways, I think we need to clear the air real quick. Nick, you chirped Blake a little bit on the internet for... I've been hard on Blake. A little bit. A little bit. Nick was a little bit hard on Blake. But was it out of love?

I would say it was out of love. Yeah. Yeah. I will say that, you know, as you know, having a podcast and we are on the franchise. You give your opinion. And just because you don't necessarily agree with someone or you even like what they did

doesn't mean you don't like him as a human being. It's true. So, yeah, was I tough on Blake about his time on Paradise? Sure, but I think he's lovely. Yeah. He's lovely. Listen, I mean, we've all made mistakes. You have made mistakes on that show.

You have said things that you wish you could take back. I know I certainly have. I don't want to speak for you. I'm like, maybe. Maybe you have. Maybe you haven't. I don't know. Now we all make mistakes.

We all make mistakes. So, but I was, yeah, I'll definitely tell if I'm Blake. I have a question. Blake, do you feel like you made mistakes? I mean, yes, I have made mistakes. Clearly, stagecoach was. I don't know if you guys heard. Blake, are you going back to stageco?

Yes, I'm going back to stageco. Hell yeah, he is. And has. I'm not going to let people sled. shame me into not going to a music festival. I will go to that music festival every year now. Blake, as someone who

does care about using human being and wants you to have unlimited success, are they paying you a buttload of money? Yes. I will not disclose the amount of money. You should have like a security. I would give all that money back to not go through that bullshit that was paradise.

I would give all of that back. Absolutely. I really would. I swear God, I would. That's smart because if he had not done that, he'd probably have like three to 400 more thousand followers, and then he would make that in the back end. And then he would have maybe been the bachelor. You can't say that.

Sure, maybe. Yeah, we all have a chance. But I think, sure, but I think they had a lot of, nothing against, they had a lot of great options from Hannah season. Okay, but wait. Who was the bachelor before you? Ben.

Yes. And then his girl, Jojo and then she picked oh you're right they didn't have good options from that season well they I mean they did in a sense they turned out to be bad yeah they turned out to be bad but like you know Jojo's season was very popular I think they

they definitely were planning on having Luke he has kind of proven everyone they probably made the right call but yeah he kind of he f***ed up like he could it could have been Luke and he uh he messed it up he messed it up and then and then they were kind of like about that but like coincidentally people got

surprised they liked me on Paradise and I was like well I'll just make Nick the pastor I have to tell you a funny story Blake are you having issues with your mic I dropped all it works oh we're back oh we're back okay funny story about when they announced Nick as the Bachelor so I'm sitting in Canada as I do every

August and oh are you guys Canadian I love it thank you for being here I'm gonna just tell myself you flew here all the way from Canada you don't live here they did they're like silent

birds just say yes so Nick gets announced as the Bachelor and I'm talking to one of the executive producers Elon who were all friends with and I'm like

ha ha ha ha that's a really funny joke and it was live and so they're like yeah our Bachelor is and you came out and I thought they were doing a joke I thought they were pretty

they actually did that the year before yes that's why I thought is this the same joke I was like you can't make the same joke two years in a row on this is stupid and then he's like ha ha it's funny right he actually is and it took me the second

I was like wait Nick's the Bachelor and it really I think it shocked a lot of people because I mean same thing with Ari sometimes they don't go with who you think they're going to go with and you ended up having a really great season thank you I didn't watch

I didn't watch but I didn't watch I didn't watch but I heard it was great I mean do you guys have a favorite from his season Who? Raven. We love Raven. Rachel, obviously. If it's not Rachel, you're wrong.

Yeah, Rachel and Raven are amazing, in my opinion. Anyways. I still want to find out why they're fighting. Oh, my God, I was going to ask you. Did you guys see on the... On the internet, there's some, like, Rachel and Raven have... No, is that who it is? Yeah.

Yeah. Demi told me that she found out, but then... was drinking and forgot so that was like useless um wait who told you that demi well okay so we have a question the question that everybody's screaming and that i'm going to say is are you dating demi okay well well then no no not a liar because i heard you're dating a girl crush that i had from the oc rachel bilsen who is like everybody's like girl crush girl next door sweetest and i heard she's like that in person

can you confirm her tonight the only thing i'll say about rachel i did not get to watch her on the oc but i have heard like you said, I became very aware very quickly after her and I got to know each other of how beloved she was. I'm obsessed. I mean, just kidding. She's okay. I will say my personal interactions with Rachel, she far exceeds her in person. Wow. And on the show. She's one of the most nicest and warm-hearted people. And she's like, she's so normal. Yeah. I picture her being normal she's more normal than you would even picture her being normal like if you watch the show and everyone tells me she's like the girl next door but she's even more of the girl next door and her

heart's even like too big for her own gift oh my god you love her you love rachel belson she's a wonderful person i will i will say that okay that's all you're gonna tell us did you do you get turned on when she does her like ice cream commercials have you guys seen that where she like bites into the like chocolate ice cream i know you know what i'm talking about i'm aware yeah she does that what is it? Magnum? Magnum? Are you sure? Yeah.

I'm turning to Google for this one because I thought that was a condom. It's definitely a condom. Magnum, ice cream, Rachel Bilsen. Oh, your name actually came up when I did search that. That's funny. Oh, yeah, here it is. It's so hot. I even, like, I don't like ice cream, and she makes me want ice cream. Look at her just, like, jumping on top of cars, fighting all the po-po just to get her little

fucking magnum in her throat. She wants it. She wants the magnum. Magnum, there you're right. It was. Anyways. She's great. Anyway, she's great.

I heard. She's really great. So, I mean, as everybody knows, we were on the same season of The Bachelorette. Oh, I haven't seen them all, but one of the best seasons of all time. It really was. Everyone's like, eh. What the f***ed guys? Like, what a...

We can hear you. We can hear it. We're right here. We're right here. We had a really... We all love Jason. What does it have to do with Caitlin's season? Yeah, Jason has nothing to do with my season.

We're going to get there. But we're at my season. And by the way, I did Nick's podcast, too. think we like both obsessed over jason we did yeah he's very pretty we were both like oh he's so good looking and confident and he has a nicest body keep it Caitlin too it's so Blake and I joke every podcast we're like I'll literally get out on stage to be like hey everybody thanks for coming and everyone's like Jason and ramen and I'm like every show every show I'm like would you rather them now we're at the end where you guys are like a little

weird, he'll get a little more weird, we could all ask him some weird questions. Like last night, what did we ask him? We asked him who his weirdest fantasy was ever about. Do you want to know what he said? Super weird, but also a good answer. I was like, what is it? Tupanga.

Do you know Tupanga? The city? The town? Yes, yeah, Nick, take a guess. Outside of L.A. You're never going to get it. Topanga from Boy Meets World? Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's hot. Yeah, and it was... She's a bachelor fan.

Yeah, it was the pink Power Ranger. That's a... That was his fantasy. That's a fetish. Totally. That's definitely a fetish. That's a weird.

There's no face. I can't wait. I can't wait till Kate was the Pink Power Ranger next Halloween. He liked the girl, not actually the Ranger. So it's the girl who played like... Kimberly. I don't know. I don't...

So if he was going to hook up with the Pink Power Ranger, she doesn't have her costume out. Oh, that's a great. great question. We'll ask him that way it comes out. I did last night. I'm in the room next door. I Amazon Prime that shit.

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So anyways, we're on the same season. we have not really spoken in four years. It's been a while. It's been a while. I think it's really nice, because I would like to know if anybody out there has had an ex or someone that you have not been able to be friends with, and then you've been friends with them once the time goes on. Is that? Okay, there's... Only two.

There's two of you. I highly recommend it. It's very therapeutic. It's totally normal. Four years later, we do a great... podcast on Nick's podcast called The Vile Files Tea. We drank wine and tea. Yes. No, we drank wine, we spilled tea.

Oh, is that how it goes? I don't know. I think that's what the people want to hear. But it was nice. It's cool. It's like we got to like... I found it therapeutic. I really did. To your point, I think sometimes it's easy to want to resent your ex or have reasons. And sometimes you are dating someone who like feels like it's like I have to pick sides.

And it's very nice to be able to acknowledge and just remind yourself that while you're both moved on, you're like, you know what, this is someone who at one point of my life, I really thought was pretty great. And it's nice to feel the freedom to continue to feel that way. I totally agree with that. And it's like we can all be friends now, and hopefully I can be friends with Rachel when you guys come out to the public um but yeah it is it's it's free and and it's funny because i mean it's so long ago now do you guys even remember that season that just kidding that was me fishing

they never forget you're like a pro fisherman you know i am i am i know how to fish i'm like you guys don't even remember my season do you i got can i ask you a question though because in and And regular years, four to five years isn't a long time. But will you admit, because I feel the same way, but it's just like, we're getting fucking, like, in bachelor years? Like, we're fucking old news. Old. Okay, so Demi was obviously backstage.

And I'm sitting there and I was like, she goes, oh, how much is it for a bottle of your wine? Which is a great time to do a little shameless plug here, which is online, Caitlin Bristow.com. Has everybody tried this rated Sparrow? This is Nick's reaction to everything. He drinks it, and it could be the best wine of his life. And he goes, it's nice. It's good. It's good.

It's good. It's great. But Demi was like, oh, this is very drinkable. I really like this wine. Drinkable's a great tagline. It's very drinkable. Hashtag drinkable. And she goes, what's the price point?

And I said, oh, I wanted to make it under $20. I like to spend a little over $20. But under $20 is very reasonable. So I said I made it my birth year. 1985 and she goes 1995 that's the year I was born and I was like no no that's cute

85 yeah and I mean it feels so old because I realized that everybody coming now yes 84 one girl yeah early yeah 84 it was like every you know that movie with what's his name Matthew McConaughey when he's like, I keep getting older.

But the girls keep saying the same age. When I first saw that movie, I was like, oh, weird. Now you get it. Now I'm like, I totally get it. I totally get it too. Jason's like four years younger than me, and I'm like, all right, all right, all right. You know what? Good for you.

Thanks. Thank you. That's a flex. How old is Rachel Bilsen? She's 37. Oh. Good for a gal. Are you the same age?

Now I'm a little older. What? You 38? Sure. Sure. Hey, guess what? I heard 40s are the best ages of our lives. I've had a, I've really enjoyed life.

You also look 30, so that helps. Thanks, Caitlin. You're welcome. Hey, all. We're friends now. And you look 22. Somebody the other day ID'd me, and I was like, well, how old do you think I look? And she goes, well...

Wow, you're getting an objective here. No, wait, this is funny. It was at a Predators game in... No, it was at a concert in Nashville at the arena. And she goes, well, I know who you are, but you looked a lot younger with brunette hair. What a bitch! Can I say bitch?

It's 2019, but that's a bitch comment. No, it's a bitchy thing to say. It's a bitchy thing to say. Even if it was a dude. Wait, so you already know I'm of age, but you just wanted to throw that little jab in there to tell me I look younger as a brunette. Okay.

I have found, in my experience, while I'm sure none of you in the crowd are like this, you're all, you seem very delightful. But there seems to be a certain type of bachelor fan that wants you to know that in case you were wondering, they want you to know, that you don't look the same as me. Yeah. Just so you know. I'm not sure you're thinking of it, but I want you to know that you're not better me. So I need to neg you just a little bit. Yeah. So I feel like she was doing that.

She was. And to be fair, she was Burnett, and she looked great. Very nice of you. You overcame. And that's what I said to her. I said, oh, I get it, because you're Burnett and you're beautiful. And then I think she felt stupid, and that was my goal. That was a nice, smart.

Because I'm passive-aggressive like that. Do you think that's passive-aggressive? I think that's a great, you couldn't have handled that better. Well, I didn't mean it, though. Doesn't matter. And that moment, as long as she didn't know. Yeah. Then that's okay.

Then you win. Yeah. You won. Um, she felt like an asshole. Did you know for a second I forgot what city I was in because I've been doing this for only. I act like I'm like on tour like a rock star. I'm like, where am I? Caitlin, it's your life.

You're the best Detroit. I'm like, give it up Detroit. No, just kidding. L.A. Are you guys? And I'm happy to call L.A. home at this point in my life. Yes, this is your home. Also Chicago.

Also Milwaukee. You know, I got to say, I'm really getting drunk off your wine. It's, it's, it's you. up. It's the weirdest thing. Very drinkable. It's very drinkable. And Jason's mom likes to say it gives you a good bristover, which is a hangover from me. But I will say, you lived in Milwaukee, or just outside of Milwaukee. I grew up outside of Milwaukee, and then I lived in Milwaukee.

You're one of 11 children, am I right? Indeed, yeah. How is Thanksgiving for you? Historically loud. Loud? Okay. I'm quite looking forward to this. this Thanksgiving. It's my mom's birthday on Thanksgiving.

She's such a sweetheart. She is a gem. And I will say my mom, as you can imagine, being the mother of 11 kids, has most of my life been one of the most selfless people I've ever met. She's amazing. Good for her and her, as she gets older,

has learned, and this is a weird thing to say, but has learned to become more selfish in a positive way. And I feel like some people are just so selfless. So for her birthday this year, she has asked that we do not celebrate Thanksgiving because she wants it to be about her which I think is great I think I think that's well deserved for someone who's given birth to 11 kids and and while I love all my siblings I'm quite looking forward I also I'm probably don't comment and don't hate me but I think the Thanksgiving meal in general while I love the holiday is a whole

overrated meal it's I'm sorry I do okay I agree if it's if listen if Thanksgiving is about Thanksgiving and indulgence There's a lot of things I'd rather eat than turkey. Right? It's just, it's a, it's a peasant meat. It's fine. It's totally fine. I would rather have pizza or sick.

So, on Thanksgiving, and because we're not celebrating Thanksgiving, we're going to make homemade pizza together. It's fucking delicious. And it's going to be me and my mom and my little sisters. And so my older siblings are going to be with their, like, husbands and wives, families. And it's going to be like, I'm selfish. It's going to be kind of quiet, which I'm really looking forward to.

It's a very different Thanksgiving because usually. I actually like that. It's quite loud and wonderful, but yeah, it's loud. I had a family therapist on my podcast once, and she talked about, like, family get-togethers, Thanksgiving, Christmas, how awkward it can be. Because I think everybody has this vision of what Thanksgiving is supposed to be, what Christmas is supposed to be.

It's supposed to be turkey and the stuffing, and everybody's supposed to get along and say what they're thankful for. But if you just go into it with no expectations, be like, actually, we're fuck it, we're going to make pizza and, like, do what our family is. family likes to do. So I totally agree. You can boo and you can like jerky. And I, I actually kind of envy that. It's fine. It's fine. I don't hate it, but like, it's fine. I don't eat meat. So I'm like, yeah, toe furkey for the win. Ew. But, but I'm just saying that I read, no, I

didn't read. It was on the news the other day that Thanksgiving is a very overrated meal that people just do for tradition. Yeah. Most people in this crowd agree with us. They're just, it's heart for them to admit. Okay. Thank you. Like, wouldn't you rather have like a nice steak or ribs or whatever your favorite meal is? Have you ever?

She admits. She admits yes. How many people here if you're on death row for your last meal? You'll be like, you know what? Nice turkey. Thanksgiving. Turkey and mashed potatoes and stuffing.

You're right. You're right. It's just tradition. It's tradition. Anyway, so me and my mom are making pizza. It's going to be great. I tell your mom and I say, Happy birthday.

Oh, you corrected yourself. Mom and I. Mom and I. You're like, I'm going to get called out. What would be your meal on death row? Probably pizza. Pizza and spade and sparrot wine. He's good.

Blake, what would be yours? Is your mic working? I didn't have time to think about it. Chicken chalmane. He's like vagina. Chicken chagina. I will say, if you live in L.A., there's this amazing restaurant called Dintai Fung.

And I would. If I could have it fresh, because it's only good, like, coming immediately out of the kitchen, I would probably maybe have that on death row. The soup dumplings are a goddamn dream. So, anyways. My death row meal, since everybody was asking. Sorry, Caitlin. What would your death row meal be?

We're all dying to know. Can I have two? Well, you're about to die. No, you die once. You die once. Okay. I would have the best sushi you could ever imagine. Like some nice thinly sliced sashimi, maybe a spicy tuna roll.

And then like the... Maybe a spicy tuna roll? Maybe if they felt like throwing it in. I'm okay with or without it. I just want the sashimi. But I would really like the biggest bowl of just like the greasiest pasta. Like just butter, garlic, noodles straight out of Italy. Where they do the thing where they cook it al-Dante and then they put it in the pan and then they put it in it.

and it's like all hot. I'll be honest, I really thought when you're like, I would just love a big fat, I thought you're going to be like Jason. Oh. A little bit of like, a little... You didn't let me finish for dessert.

And for dessert, I would have Jason's penis. Just a little D. Same. A little D. A little D. Just a little side of D. Wow. I'm so glad you guys accept me for who I am.

This is, I always trying to. tell the guys in the crowd, I'm like, you will get at least a blowjob tonight for coming here. At least. Maybe a hand job if those things are still in, I don't know.

A tuggy? A tuggy? Is that what you call it? An H.J. A good old-fashioned H.J. I'll be honest. Overrated. Blake? What was the question? Are hand jobs overrated?

Blake's like, I wouldn't know. I don't like sex. It's fine. Our hand job's overrated. Underrated. Underrated. Wow, you two really do have not a lot of comments. You've met some very gentle women, Blake. Underrated. Oh my gosh, I feel like I'm like you, it's two guys and I'm like, oh, I usually have women as guests.

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podcast what is your podcast about because do you did you did you really get inspired from your instagram stories also how do you how do you pronounce your last name vial sorry vial oh so i've been saying it wrong this whole time well have you been saying it Vile. Sure. Is it the vial files? I'll be honest. I do not know why I called it vial files because no one can get it f***ing, right?

Everybody just says vial files. It's fine. It's great. The truth is, like, I usually, my whole life, I would say vial. And like, when people say it real fast, it's a vial. And it's not vial. Yeah. It's vial.

And so I would, then I went up. You said, who cares I love you? I don't love you back. So, truth is, when I went on the bachelor, I started saying it, weird because no one can get it right so I was over-enunciating my last name. I get that. That's like when I went on and everyone called me out for

being Canadian so instead of saying a boat I kept being like a bow. Yeah and now I've a weird accent. I got in my head about it and it's it's... So it's the vial files. Oh, I said it right. It's great. Okay, so tell us where you talk about on it because do you guys listen? Oh my God, thank you like 30% of you.

You will now. Actually, I did that, my questions with Nick on my Instagram. Yeah, you always did like questions with Nick, and people got pretty deep. They got into it. Yeah. So you made it into a podcast. I kind of always wanted to do a podcast. I mentioned this to you when we recorded my podcast, is that there was kind of this running joke of Bachelor podcast, and you have always kind of been the gold standard in the podcast space.

and I don't like doing things half-ass and I didn't want to just do it to do it and I'm fully aware of kind of the obvious like low-hanging fruit joke so I didn't want to do one until I had a good concept for it and so I kind of on a whim did questions with Nick I kind of took off and I always kind of enjoyed giving advice to friends and things like that so it kind of started from that and I'm into relationships and dating and social dynamics and I just, I generally like asking questions that people sometimes have out, ooh, ramen. Ramen?

Jason was like, yes. So it's a lot of relationship stuff. And obviously there was always a little bit of bachelor low-hanging fruit, but it's kind of evolved into more like relationships and different dynamics. And it's kind of turning into like just anything interesting and topical because we do live in a time with kind of this like canceled culture and things like that.

And we're having a hard time. Sometimes we have a lot of water cooler topics that we seem to be afraid to talk about now. Every time we talk about things are like, oh, should I talk about this? Can I say this? And I think it's important in our time to kind of ask more questions

and try to understand things. We live in a culture where people are taking sides and then people just like to talk to people they agree with. I think I like having conversation with people I disagree with and I hope that shows evolving into something like that. And I just like having fun and relationships are always tough and so it's a lot about that

I don't know. Who doesn't have relationship problems? Oh, fuck you guys, geez. A bunch of liars. Congratulations. What? Have you ever had a relationship problem in your life?

All right. It should be a guy should be who does have relationship problems. Do you think they're getting harder? No. Wait. I have... What?

To date and... then what when yeah oh yes okay so as you get older in your life relationships get better I agree with that yes

I think it's harder harder in 2019 than it was in say 2000 I will I will agree with Nick I don't like to agree with Nick but I will agree with Nick but I will agree with Nick it's so much harder dating now than 2012

that's because you were on the bachelor yeah it's way hard now. No, it's way harder now. No, I mean, I like that we can all sit here and agree to disagree, but somebody just said, wait till you're 30. Do you mean that it's better? Yeah, but, okay. Oh, I think that's two different arguments, right? I totally agree with the audience and that as you get older, it's definitely easier to date. Because in theory, what is dating, right? Even the failed relationships, ideally, you will learn from that. And, like, when you're 21, you have no idea. So you're like, fuck, this is great. I love you.

And then, like, they break your heart, and by the time you're 30, you seem to have a better idea of what you want and more specifically what you don't want, right? In theory, so obviously it's better. You're more confident in yourself. I think in general it's gotten harder because, you know, 10 years ago, MySpace, dating apps didn't exist what they were now. And everyone was there being like, oh, man, I wish we had a dating app where I could just know who was single. We thought it was hard there. But now it's paralysis of choice. And now you're like, there's 17 different dating apps, and you have, you're swiping.

You're like, oh, I mean, I like this person, that person. And now, and I'm as guilty of it as anyone, is like we are making it harder on ourselves by feeling like we have so many, we feel like we have no options, and in fact, we have so many options, and that we don't know what to choose from, and then we kind of cripple ourselves. I think that society, we have too much access, whether it's social media and sliding into the DMs, et cetera, et cetera. And on that note, it's not even just that.

It's then once you're in relationships, you have everybody has problems in relationships. Even if you have the healthiest relationship on the planet, you still have struggles to get through. So it's like, I think that's what we're trying to say. But thank you guys for having an open mind. But is there anyone that wants to ask a relationship, uh, really, wow. Is there anybody that wants to ask a relationship question out there? Right there in the middle. We have one hand.

I see you, wrist hand. I see you. Yes. One over there too. Does she get a mic or something? Does she come up? Yeah, yell it and I'll repeat it. Well, my mic's connected to a cord, otherwise...

Can she come out? Do you have a wireless? Oh, yeah, come on. Blake, go down and... I have a wireless mic. Go on down and feed her your mic. What? What's your name?

Hi, my name is Brittany. Hi, Brittany. Hi, Caitlin. Hi. Oh, hi. Anyways, yeah, so I just broke up my boyfriend last month. I'm sorry. Did you break up or he broke up with you?

I broke up with him. Great. Congratulations. This asshole doesn't want me back now that I was. I was like, I was a mistake, and he's like, no, I don't want you back now. And I'm like, well, that guy, you're an... Wait, wait, you broke up with him. Yeah.

I broke it with him, but he's like, kind of an alcoholic. Okay, I'm sorry for that. So it's just like, I don't know. Like, I don't know what my question is. You just want, that's fine. Okay. Are you happy? We're here?

Well, I don't know. That's what I'm trying to ask. Like, do you know right away if you're happy after a breakup? No. I think it takes some time. It takes some time. I think when you break up with someone, there's two kind of stages. Right? Because if you've dated someone, how old are you?

I'm 26. 26. You're definitely at the point of your life that anyone you're dating, you're thinking about maybe marrying them and getting engaged. You have all these dreams and hopes. And then you have this, like, tough realization of like, I don't know, I don't feel like we should maybe be together. And then you do the tough thing, you break up. And then there's kind of this grieving period.

And, you know, like whether you broke up with someone or they broke up both you and they broke your heart, what do we do when we have a heart, we kind of pine over them, we think about the Sundays and all the good time. And we sometimes do that even longer than we really want to. Even though when we're complaining our friends, like, I just want to get over them. I want to get over. In fact, you actually really don't sometimes because the memory of them

is the only thing we have left of them, you know, in the sense of like, oh, you know? I'm afraid to let go of missing them. And so there's that phase. And then there's you day you wake up. You're like, well, actually, I don't really care anymore, and it's liberating. But there's kind of stages.

So my advice to you is just take it easy on yourself, you know? Yes. Yeah, I like that. Take it easy on yourself. self and and just feel your different phases because did you know how long were you together four years so did you know the last year it was not going to work but it was like phases like every like some nights would be good but deep down exactly you kind of know deep down so give yourself the forgiveness to be like I think for that last year I knew so then you can

grieve through the next the next phases because just just repeat to yourself I knew for a year So now the next phases are And be sad and be and go flirt with guys Whatever you want to do But just like forgive yourself for all of your phases Through this next couple of like And just one more thing You definitely want him to get help

And become sober for himself And not for you Because it probably won't happen In the time frame which you'll find someone else I agree with that I agree with that. Thank you. You'll be great thank you for sharing and thank you for sharing your story oh don't throw it and uh well uh i'll catch it

thank you thank you for sharing your story make sure you find blake at stagecoach yeah blake single if you're looking uh there's a young lady with her hand up oh yes come on up young lady with your hand up i feel this is going to be a good one yeah We're here for you. Blake, I really like your shirt. Thank you. It's a really great shirt.

This is from paradise. I almost burned it, but... I was getting to you. It's the best shirt I've seen so far. V-I-P. What's your name? My name is Katie. Katie, nice to meet you.

Give it up for Katie. Katie. So my question is, how do you deal with a man where you've dated for several years? And you kind of are blindsided. and it's sort of you are not the person that I love anymore. And you wake up and you're like, I plan my future with you and I banked on everything sort of with you

and we got a dog and all sorts of shit. And then it's just sort of how do you sort of recuperate yourself and sort of recenter yourself to be like, okay, I am still who I am. and I have the dog that barks just like ramen how do you sort of recoup okay are you still with this person

no no we yeah I broke it okay okay I need to say one thing although I love Jason with all of my heart and he is my everything don't ever say find a Jason find yourself first because finding yourself he's taken because

back off no but if you find your find yourself first and you're happy with yourself the jason's come to you so my advice for you is that you realize that it's you know it's him not you right yeah you gave all that you could yeah is there anything you regret i don't think i left anything out on the table that i didn't and if you did you learn for the next relationship but my advice you would be to know that that's a a lesson for you and that it'll just make you appreciate the next person more but you have to absolutely fall in love with yourself first and be like that I'm this and then you and then you'll

attract the right people I'm sure you can add to that great thanks so I mean you broke you we have more for you we have more for you yeah did you break up with them I mean I'm good with that yeah how did it she's good with that how did it end did you break up with him or did he break up with you because that could go two ways I mean I I I I I'm going to totally transparent here. We dated for almost three years. He woke up one morning and said, I'm not in love with you.

To you? To me. Oh, see, that's what I... Thank you! Everybody say f*** him on three. One, two, three. Yes. It's very difficult.

Yeah, I think it's important information. Listen, I kind of agree with Kaelin said, but knowing that information, it's just like, I think you just kind of, that hurts. That hurts the ego. It's very difficult because you've built. yourself up and then... If I were you, you probably

spent a lot of time knowing that you deserve better, but I have a hard time believing that sometimes because he hurt your ego, would be my guess. I would make a list objectively about all the things on a day-to-day basis, even little things that really pissed you off.

Because there's probably a lot. And then you try to think of all the things that he did to actually make you feel good. Not like all the things you liked or things that you thought were looked good about him, but things that he to make you feel good about yourself, and my guess is one list will be longer than the other. Yeah.

And then, you know, that will help you make you feel better, and then, you know, take time. Because that hurts, it hurts. It hurts. And it's okay. Be okay with being hurt. Yeah. Because we all get hurt somehow,

and no matter where you're at in life, you could look at somebody on Instagram as we all do and compare ourselves. You're like, they would never get hurt. We all get hurt. We all hurt in some way. Yeah, Caitlin. Yeah. I'm sorry, that's too easy.

It was too easy. She lined you up for that one. I really teed you up. But we all get hurt and, you know, we go through things and you just have to know that there's light at the end of the tunnel and you go through things for a reason. And it's all learning lessons. I think it's really hard in this generation

where we are so public with what we are willing to share. I mean, tonight I maybe snapped or Instagramed, like, 40 photos tonight. That was like, look at where I am. You know, and so it's sort of... And look, you're so confident up here. Yeah, I mean, it's like it's her show now. I love you.

So good for you. And like, this is cool to me. I'm like, look at you. You just fucking walked right up here with your confidence. And you're like, let me share my story. Ah, yes, she is. Tell me your name one more time. Katie.

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something good. It has to, okay, well, Blake, do you have a confession for us? Blake always has some good ones. I do. I do. I will say it. I do. So it was two... Bring us back to 2000 and...

I wish I could know what I was doing. I know. Bring us back to 2000. No, it doesn't work. I don't know of the year. So I was like 14, probably. Why is it so quiet? 14.

14. And... That young, wow. I'm nervous. I'm nervous. I was 2014. I was 14. It wasn't 2014.

And you know when you go to like slow dances in like middle school and and it's, I mean, it's, no, it's good for the boys. Okay. No, it is, though. They just like, you look at me and I have a erection. Yeah. Every. In 2000. Yeah.

When you're 14, the wind would blow, and it would, yeah. So, it's going to be hard to follow, Nick. So you had a lineup of girls today. So I'll never forget this. I will actually never forget this. So I was at a house party. I was at a house party. I was 14.

I was at a house party. And I was dirty dancing, which is. Show us what that looks like. No, but in, yeah, when you're 14, it's one of those like weird. Yeah, yeah, it's super weird. It's like eye contact and it does it. Yeah, that's weird. I can't believe I'm...

What do you mean? How do you get me on this? Okay, so, but I remember grinding and... I had a blue, blue compression shorts on, blue, bright blue. Get to the good stuff. And I came. Wait, did you just... Did you just...

Is that the end of the... Mid-slow dance. Was that the confession? You came? Mid-slow dance. At a house party. There was no room for... Jesus.

It was... So, you've always been a horny little son of a bitch. It gets better. That's not my confession. What? That's not my confession. So there's come on your pants, and this is not the confession. Go on.

So I went into the... the bathroom oh my god me I didn't do like just say it so I went into the bathroom after I came in my compression shorts

that were bright blue and went in the bathroom I took them off I threw them in the tub shower that was a basketball toss by the way three-pointer yeah

go on I thought I was safe I was like I safe yeah I was at the same party Oh, Jesus. As my sister. And she went to the bathroom, and she was like,

I bought these for Christmas. And I straight up... What was she doing digging through the garbage? Well, nobody would have found it. Yeah, but I f***ed up. I threw it in the shower tub. And she was like, I'm pretty sure I bought these for you for Christmas.

it was one of those weird things where she was like I found a bright blue compression shorts in the shower at the house party It still had like the tag that said Dear Blake love your sister And so No it was one of those What did you say the other night?

Like when you can break the Oh like he Break the blanket Like you could break the blanket Because of all the Say it Say it Well it was from the movie

bridesmaids when she was like it's so hard to have a little boy she goes they just jerk off on everything she goes I cracked a blanket in half the other day so the best part is my sister has no idea so when she listens to this she's going to be out

your sister is finding out so much shit during this tour because the other day I'd played a game that we're about to play called truth or drink and and I said Blake truth or drink you took a vino from the crowd home the other night and he drank and his sister and his sister goes well I'm on

Caitlin's Facebook group for off the vine heard you took a vina home and now she's going to hear about your cumundies cool my sister Blake my sister texted me was like yeah so I read the Facebook group yeah and you hooked up with somebody and super awkward yes it's all Confessions are meant to be awkward, am I right? Have you only took one viner home? One vino. How many vinos have you taken home this whole tour? No, technically in zero.

Technically. Technically, technically. I'm like the water boy, okay? I'm like the water boy. When I see my player being dehydrated, I got to fill him up. He's talking nonsense up here. We'll be back with more Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Hey, everyone, if you like my show, then you're going to love adulting like a mother-father.

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That's what I was going to say. You're known for being very real and honest and up front, and you don't keep a lot of secrets in a positive way. It must be tough to have a confession. Yeah. I find myself feeling the same. What topics do you? My Kardashian confession is on today's podcast and tomorrow, so.

If you were a vinyl, you know that. No, I'm just kidding. It's on the podcast. So I guess if I could think of a confession, um, can you go first? Sure. Do you have a topic you want me to, I mean, I'm trying to think. Like, something from your season or something that people would be shocked.

No, I think, Kailen wants me to share it. I'm just kidding. Yeah. Go ahead. See if I like her. No, it's fine. You should check out my episode. Yeah.

Plug. Listen to his episode. There's a lot of confessions. I'm trying to think of mine. My confession would be that maybe Chicago. Yeah. Okay. It's not as crazy as you want it to be.

So do you guys remember when during the season I accidentally spilled the secret of who won on Snapchat? I know I do. So it was obviously a very big. mistake. I could have been sued $5 million. They were like, Sean, we're going to take you back to Nashville. You're going to shave your beard, flirt with girls. And I was like, oh, well, what do I get to do? So they're like, where does Nick live, Chicago? Who's Caitlin's, who's Caitlin's friend, Whitney? Can't you want to go visit Whitney in Chicago? And I was like, yeah, sure. A big hockey fan went to Chicago. The Blackhawks were playing for the Stanley Cup. It was really fun. So,

we had not obviously talked since you broke my heart since he proposed and I went first two confession two part confession first confession maybe just for ABC is that they didn't let me tell you I wasn't

going to pick you because I said I'm not going to do the thing where he comes up and asks to propose that's so mean and I was like Andy didn't have to like why do I have to I'm glad at the time I was very mad at you but I am glad that they made you do it.

Yes, because they said, hey, look, that's already happened. Give him the chance to speak. He has a lot to say. America needs to hear what he has to say. And it's the least you could do. And I was like, that's fair. I still feel like a piece of shit. I mean, I was really mad at the time.

But over time, I appreciated that you let me do it. And then he became The Bachelor. And I'll let me back. And it all works out for everybody. But then. your second confession you were going to say. The second part of that commission is that I then went to Chicago

to hang out with Whitney and he lived in Chicago and so people were like, oh my God, why is Caitlin in Chicago and Sean's back in Nashville and it was this whole thing and this is actually kind of a stupid confession because really the whole thing is

he was at a pizza joint parlor. Was it a confession you were a whole thing you ran into me? Yeah. So I was like I was going to the parlor too and then this girl that we were both mutual friends with was like yeah we're here with Nick and I was like this could be a very

interesting interaction and so I went there but we got kicked out because there wasn't enough room and here's my confession I tried to name drop myself and I was like look I'm the Bachelorette okay

yeah not your best moment no very low point for me I haven't done it since and I I didn't do it before, but I did it to try and get in the same room as him. I remember that vividly, and I remember finding, like, you know, everyone's, like, texting me when you and Sean spoiled the ending, and first it was harder to see, but then it was a bit of a weight off my shoulders, because for those... For the diehards out there, when I first wanted an ante season, someone recorded me, like,

right after I got on a plane, and, like, I kind of spoiled that show, and so it was a big weight off my shoulders. That I spoiled that. Like, I can't fuck up this time. But then I knew you were in Chicago, and that really fucked me up. And I was with a friend who, like, ended up, who was your friend, Jacqueline, and she ended up meeting up with you. So I was, like, trying to pretend I didn't want to run into you, but constantly, like,

just trying to, I was just, like, bar hopping, like, crazy, just hoping I'd run into you. And then I will remember it was a month, then it was like, it was a Monday night. And I didn't know if you were still in town in the Black Hawk, because we were playing in the Stanley Cop. And we were at this bar called Parlor. And it's really pathetic. It gets worse. and at the time we're at a bar called Parlor and it was halftime

and my co-worker for whatever reason I don't know he needed a new shirt or something and I lived like a block away I'm like we'll go to my place I'll loan you a shirt or whatever and my other buddy text me he's like Caitlin just walked in

which I did no you didn't there at parlor? You were gone then I got kicked out he was fucking with me he was being a bro and so I was like

pretending my other I'm like, I didn't care. But it was raining and I sprinted back to the bar only to realize that he was just f***ing with me. And I was, and I just, I wanted to run into you. I wanted to have like that moment because in fair, like it, the tough part about the show in the, in the Bachelor show is you don't, like we talk about, you don't get closure.

You don't get to have that conversation. It's all on camera. And even though like we did talk for like a good. 20 minutes they share, you know, maybe aired five of it. You're aware that you're miced up. You're aware that you're on camera. And sometimes you want to be like, what the f***, you know? Like, um,

and, uh, yeah, I, I ran there like a, like a, like a, you wanted to have his like, what the f*** moment? No, I don't know. I, I, well, I, I, I, I envision that. I imagine what I would say. I don't know that I'd say. I probably would have just stand there. It'd been like,

you know, um, um, you went on Bachelor in Paradise after. And my girlfriend from Vancouver, Jamie went on. She was only on for like a hot minute. And she said that you were there after the season, that you're like, fucking Caitlin, I wanted to push her in the pool after she like. True, true.

That is. At the best of mention. I will, like after I left and I was, you know, again, I thank you for letting me do what I did in the moment because it was probably one of the better moments I had. And when I watched it back, it was like I felt like I got to express. myself but I mean before I got to see it

I had a million different thoughts because I remember like after I was super pissed and you were like oh can I walk you out and I was like sure like whatever it and then first I was just like no I should just said no I'll walk myself out or whatever and then there was this one time I'm like I would have never done it

but man I would have fucking love to just push because when I came out we were right by the bachelor pool so it was like we're in the back yard of the batser event the pool's right right here. You could have just been like right there and I would have just been like fucking loved and just been like you know what I'm good and just been like

boosh because gently, very gently they kind of just nudge her into the pool and calmly walk away. I very much thought about that I will admit. And when she told me that I was like that would have been great TV and surprised I didn't do it. But I would have been like I would have lost that moment.

Oh! Whoa! Well I mean it's Of course. I don't think we'd be here if we weren't. I will object to that because I will. I mean, thank you. I'm sure you love the fact that we're friends,

and we talk about this a little bit on tomorrow's podcast, but, and like we said before, like you can, it's a special place when you can care about someone and have a romantic connection, how short or how long it might be, and have enough period of time where you can feel comfortable enough to admit

the feelings you had and speak fondly about someone. And it's a very liberating feeling into a place where you're not ashamed to be like, oh, you fuck me off. Or like, you know, or like, I really cared about you and that's okay. And it's not in a weird and inappropriate way. It's just kind of a, it's

nice because like, I'm sure. It's honest. Here's where we are. Yeah. And we're sharing it with all of you. And when you have relationships in your life and you break up and sometimes when you break immediately, it's hard. Like you love that person. Maybe you imagine marrying them or whatever. And sometimes you want to like hate them or have

these weird feelings. And sometimes it's nice to just acknowledge, I cared about this person at one point where he's not, he or she is not my person, but like they're really special to me and I would do something for them. And so it's nice to be able to be in that place. Yeah. I totally agree with that. And I can only hope that a lot of people could have that healthy of a relationship like after a weird, hard time. But I mean, we share our lives with you on The Bachelor, and we share a lot of things that a lot of people wouldn't share in relationships. And

we, at this point in our lives, wanted to share this moment, too, because it's like this is where we're at, and this is what it was, and you guys were all part of that. It would have been so cool to push you in. I really forgot about that. I kind of wish you did, looking back now. Just like really gently, you know? Like, not

aggressively. Just like a little nudge. You're very small. And it wouldn't have been taken much Like when you're walking away, like, can I walk you out? You've been like... No, I'm good. No, I'm okay. Yeah. All right, guys, it's time for us to rethink the way we period.

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The show has gotten more progressive and rightly so, and we're glad. In the same way, I kind of joked about how, like, Peter's just fucking in windmills, and they're talking about having sex, and this new slogan, if you haven't seen it's like... His mom was raising the roof. It's like four times in a windmill,

like Mile High Club four times. And you had a hard time on your season, and for all that, like, you got shamed, and you're a rock star now, and people have come to, like, appreciate you but in the moment while your season was airing you got a lot of shit for being as progressive as you are and truthfully like do you

do you get a little envious and jealous because it's just like yeah you did have to walk before before Hannah got to run and it's like she's getting all this praise and like you kind of like you didn't get the credit you may be deserved I like it the way it is do you okay yeah why it took me a hot second to like it the way it is because at first I was like are you serious like we're celebrating four f***s in a windmill when I like you know like it's it was such a thing where I was shamed

and I was getting death threats and it was like this whole thing but I will say I'm glad that I was the first to just like be confident or or talk about it or do whatever because it's 2019 I think the show needs to evolve I think the show needed to evolve when it did and whether it be sex or politics or religion I think that show needs to evolve with the times you were ahead of your time but people recognize that yeah and I think people are so great about it where they're like the amount of tweets I get that said Caitlin walk so Hannah could run and I'm like that's the coolest thing I've ever heard in my life because same thing when people ask you know am I mad about Hannah doing dancing with the stars? Absolutely not. The whole reason I speak up,

the whole reason I have a voice, the whole reason I say anything that I want to say is so that people who come after me can have those opportunities or can be in a better position to not get the hate that I did. And so to me, I'm like, hell fucking yeah, she's on Dancing with the Stars. And hell fucking, yeah, we talk about sex on that show now. I hope it keeps going with the times. And hell fucking, yeah, Demi's relationship might not work out. But the hell fucking, yeah, we put a same-sex relationship on TV. Because why are we not going with the times?

Like that's, it's a very f***ed up show. I can say that because I'm out of contract. It's a very f***ing up show to say, one man dates this many women and chooses the best wife. It's f*** up to say one woman dates this many men. but then she gets slut-shamed for doing Fantasy Suite with three men. It's a whole gray area, so I appreciate that the show is going with the times. I appreciate that the show is evolving and that we can all sit here and have this conversation, and I hope it continues to do so.

So, I fucking love you guys so much. So to finish off, we're going to play a nice little game. of truth or drink. And I'm going to start it off by asking Nick a hard-hitting question about Vanessa. Whoa. Well, why not? Why not?

He's an open book. I have an option to drink, yes? Absolutely. Vanessa has spoken out pretty recently about not wanting to get engaged on the show. How did you feel about her talking about this publicly? Tell us the truth or drink. you want me to drink

no he's going to drink anyways you might as well tell us the truth well so the question is what did I think about it or not whether it was true yeah what do you think about it I mean it was fine right like was I your reaction everything it's fine you try to be level-headed

there's a slight irritation there for sure um I get it like listen we we talk about Sean and Vanessa on tomorrow's episode. And it is tough. I didn't listen to the podcast, so I don't know in the context of which it was talked about. But it is true, like, in the sense that it's a crazy season.

I don't know about you and Sean, and, you know, I'm trying to think about our conversations, but no one's gone on The Bachelor and gone to the finals and thought, I'm so ready to get engaged. Like this, you know, like, you truly love the person. You truly think I want to get engaged. But you're like, am I going to fucking do this? And so, um, definitely Vanessa had her reluctance.

And like, we were both like, I don't know, this is insane, but like, I really love you. And so I don't know her intentions, right? So I didn't listen to the podcast. If her intentions was to in any way or did you know, because we all heard the kind of clickbait of it all. But I didn't hear the rest of it. if the rest of it was I totally loved Nick and we were in a great relationship but like it seemed insane

to get engaged early then I'm totally fine with that if it was some sort of implication that she was stuck in this relationship she didn't want to be and then I have a problem with that because that would feel untrue but you know you're right you can never go by the headlines you never really know by the headline so

oh my God thank you oh thank God Oh, thank God. Yeah, I guess I try not to jump to conclusions because it's... Which is great. Because I do. Yeah. It's tough.

I saw headline once. I've seen a few. I saw a headline once that said, I don't think you said in this podcast. And it hurt. Oh, which one? Oh, shit. I didn't even mean to say which one. And I think I heard like the out of context version was,

you were basically saying I wanted to send Nick home before Ben and then you and then you said and I didn't correct me if I'm wrong because I didn't listen to it but I heard the out of con the in context was and I would believe this is that you didn't want to have me wait you know like you want to send me home because you actually felt the way you did and it was like well and I did say to you um off camera because like listen if if it's not me, just fucking send me home now. Like, I don't want to take second. I don't want to be there.

At the time, I was like, just fucking send me home. I get that. So in that sense, I totally understood. At the time, I heard it, and given the relationship you had with Sean, and I constantly felt like you were never validating that, it was just like, oh, are you fucking kidding me? Like, what? I was constantly trying to protect something while bashing you, but at the same time, yes. No, I just think I knew at one point, and they just didn't let me because they love the

Sean Nick view. They loved it. They loved it. like truth or drink no hey this game every time when is the last time you sent somebody a nude great question great question today that is a good question i will say probably last night because we had a conversation and i won't i'm not saying anything i'm not saying are you i'm no objection with a good nude now do you keep your face out of it no i'm so scared of nudes I'm so scared of nudes.

So when's the last time? I don't... Before the bachelorette. True sorry. Before the bachelorette. I got to say, Blake, I want to be honest, Blake, a little... Every time you look up into the left, I feel like you're lying. No, I swear to God.

Really? Yeah, God, no. Do you ever know? You think I'm that stupid? Well, it has not been that long for me, I'll be honest. Okay. Nick, if you could pick one Bachelor nation person to take on a date right now, who would it be? Ooh.

Do I have to go on a date with somebody? No, it's truth or drink? No. That's just weird. Stop making it weird. Drink. Drink. Drink. Just drink. I'll drink. Okay. Very fair. Very fair.

Okay, I guess I'll ask myself one. Caitlin can i get can i ask you one sure pick one out of these i mean some of them might be a little obvious like when jamaic out with someone last i'd be like five minutes go break okay here we go have you ever hooked up with someone of the same sex and by hooked up with we'll allow making out we'll allow first base hell yeah i have i i i was i'm not ashamed i was 21 i was 21 I was very curious and I found women beautiful and hell freaking yeah I did It's not a big deal

I have another one I want to ask you I really thought I'd get a bit bigger reaction But I'm serious It was like 21 and 22 I was curious if you don't get curious How would you not not know? I'm not still curious Thank you though

What's your name? Yeah Who's that? There was a man last night named Skip who's the fucking MVP. Your name's what? Mo. Mo. Have you ever gotten curious?

Is that low? Oh my God, Lo, I love you. I heard Mo, and then I heard your voice go, yeah, I got really, I'm curious. Low, everybody. Lowe is a very reoccurring guest on my podcast. You probably know him too

because he went on Ariel's all the time. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Lo. Love you, Lo. Actually, Lo, would you come up here for a second? Are there stairs? How does Lowe get up here? Oh, there's stairs, yeah.

Come on up, Lowe. You know you make me want to Kick my heels up and down Throw my hands up and soft Give it up for Lowe Hi Yeah Okay

What's that Hey beautiful Hey Bo So Nick I mean Lowe I mean Lowe always has the best Confessions on my podcast Oh

Thanks Clee So I guess instead of asking you a confession let's ask you a truth or drink okay yeah you guys know a little right from the podcast he's everything okay you can't look i just need a drink oh here you go okay has anyone drink okay excuse me um okay let me pick a good one oh oh okay um what is the biggest age gap that you've ever had in hookup. Ooh. Wow.

Whoa. Is that your guess or have you done that? Better him than me. No. What? I love you. You've done that? Get it.

Older or younger? I'm just kidding. No, that's better. She doesn't seem that old, so I really hope is older. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're like 20, so please. Okay.

Get it, girl. I love your energy I like it Anna Nicole Smith vibes Okay Anna Nicole Get it Booboo We see you Anna Nicole

Alright See you Nothing wrong with that I love her She's iconic The age gap Okay I'm trying to think

He was 74 I'm kidding Oh my god Can you amass Did it work? Did it work? No 74 is great

It's the new 54 I'm not like age discrimination. Like the 74 year olds are like, how dare you? No, the oldest I'd say is, and I'll answer truthfully, he was 55. 55. And you are? Well, I'm 30 now, but I was 21 at the time. Wow!

Ooh. Winner, winner chicken dinner. I like it. And? And? And. Do you want like a twist? No, was it good?

Oh, oh, oh. Did he teach you a lot? Do you still use things that he taught you at the time? He blew my mind. I was like in a wheelchair, for God's sake. You know, it was incredible. And I miss him every day. You know what?

I will say he passed. He's not with us anymore. RIP. He's only like 60 now. He actually never texted me back. He never texted me back. Hit it and quit it? Oh, wow.

Andy quit it. Yeah, I know. That was my first, like, rejection. Wow, well, that's actually really great. That was your first one. So, yeah, drink it up, buttercup. Thank you for sharing. I have one more.

Who should we ask? Look, yeah, it's this one. Nick, have you ever face-tuned or photoshopped an Instagram photo? I've used filters. I've never face-tuned. Like you don't face-tune the boss. You just like bright and whiten or use a filter. Okay, that's fair with them.

I've never changed my appearance. Okay. Raw beauty. Hashtag real Instagram. Okay. But I've definitely used a filter. Oh, yeah, of course. Do you double filtered?

What's that? You know, like in a story, you throw the paris on it, you save it, and then you paris it again. It's like two eye sockets. No, I find that to be grainy then. It's a little grainy. It looks like a dream. sequence i love it yeah i've not

done that but i think it's important to look like your instagram you never want to meet someone and go huh you know okay but you are a fan of enhancing your natural beauty i think you want to look on instagram the way you imagine you

look your very best in life yes i agree that's totally fine but you don't want to meet someone and go i agree i mean i get it i see it i see but like that's you huh you know yeah you don't want to go there and people do you people do and don't be that person it like when you look your fucking finest that's that's how your picture should be that amen nick nich nicholas uh okay blake are you ready for the last one no make it good i'm gonna go easy on you because there's really only that one or um no don't search there's only two

And I don't think he wouldn't admit that one. He wouldn't? No. Have you ever done that? No. I've been with someone who has. Don't group together and pick up.

This is not fair. This is unfair. Blake. Blake, be honest. So that's a bad lead in. Have you ever talked shit about one of us? Ever? In public?

No. ever even your mom yeah even your mom and like even if it's really i love this person but like sometimes you're a little shitty listen nick like when was the last i mean yeah he was like this no no well to who anybody who oh oh i would i have never gone on a podcast or like no to your mom Anyone? Yo, I've talked shit about my mom or about Nick to my mom for sure. No, my mom has talked shit about Nick to me.

Oh, well, that doesn't count because mom should do that. If you know your mom, I would hate me. Oh, my mom, my family hates Nick. If I like your mom, I would hate me. No, no, no, no, let me just... My mom loves everybody. My mom is like that person who's just like, I mean, she kind of as a bitch,

but like I love her. No, she's an angel. Yeah. No, but my mom would. would be like, my mom is so good at seeing the good in people. She would be like, that, Kaylin, real kind of not cool what she did to you, but like, she's fun. She looked at me in the eyes on the hometown day, and she said, please don't hurt him.

And I was like, fuck. And I was like, I loved her. I loved his whole family. And then, this is a funny story. And then, well, it's sad. So then on that after the final rose, it's like. like we all just watch what happened and I went to do Jimmy Kimmel and I walked out and your whole family was walking in and I was like and I ducked and I went behind a van because I was like they must

hate me which they didn't I know but I I hid and so I came back and I went to a producer and I said why is this whole family here my family was not invited my fiancee is not their family's not invited why is Nick's whole family here I feel so stupid and they're like look you put him through like a really tough time they're just here for support and i was like okay i get out on stage and everyone's like why were you so mean to nick on the after the final rows you were so cold and i'm sitting there on stage being like his little sister his mom his dad all your family's just sitting front row looking at me like this and i was like oh my god they lied to me told me they were just backstage hanging out with you but they were all front row when my whole

family was invited. And then everyone was like, you were so mean to Nick on the after the final rose. And I'm like, I was literally in shock and didn't know what to say. Because your whole family, and it was so cute because at the end, the whole audience gets to come up and say hi. And I was like, and I walked up, and this whole

film was like, Caitlin, it's so good to see you. I'm so glad you're happy. Like, they were the sweetest people. They're lovely people. I will say, I are lovely. I was like, in fairness to the show, I insisted that they be there.

I actually asked my... I was just like, listen, you guys really kind of like, f***ed with me for two years? Can my family come out that way for free? And I didn't want them there, and it was nice, but it wasn't the producer's idea, it was my idea, and then they quite liked you. And I didn't think you were that mean to me

in AFR. I wasn't. I was just quiet. I thought you and Shulmer very mean to me the next morning. But I blame Sean but hey but that sucks that was a dick move neither here or they're over it's fine I'm totally fine I'm totally fine I'm fine I'm fine

we don't care didn't happen it was him not me thank you guys so much for coming today bring out the dog can I just say one thing and then we're going to bring a rummins follow Nick on Instagram

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