Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Mary Lawless Lee

Episode Date: March 10, 2020

Kaitlyn is joined today by founder and face of the influential fashion blog Happily Grey, Mary Lawless Lee! Mary tells Kaitlyn about how she got into fashion, her incredible blog and her how she decided to get into retail by opening a store. Then Mary talks about how difficult it is to be a working mother and the guilt that moms can feel when they go back to work after leave. Later they discuss how Mary certified her dog Miles in therapy before finishing up with some confessions! CRATE & BARREL – Create your Crate & Barrel registry at crateandbarrel.com or at a store near you. GEICO - Go to geico.com, and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance HULU – Hulu has the reality TV that you love so start your free trial today at Hulu.com PERSONNA – Right now you can get 25% off your first order with code VINESHOW. Feel the difference with Personna razors today! DUNKIN – America Runs on Dunkin’See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. My guest today is the founder and face behind the popular fashion blog, Happily Gray. Her brand has grown from its early days of focusing on fashion to now include lifestyle, travel, fitness, decor, and recently retail. She's always a go-to source for inspiration from life at home here in Nashville to her travels around the world. I'm so excited to hear her story about how she got to where she is today and find out her biggest pieces of advice when it comes to living our best lives. Please welcome to the podcast, Mary Lawless, which is a power name, by the way. Hi, thank you. That's a good name. Lawless is my maiden name. Yeah. And Lee is the name, my husband's last name.

Right. Yeah, it kind of just flows. It really does. I actually took Lawless as my middle name because I wanted to keep that. Love that. What a gangster middle name. Lawless. My brother's nickname is Johnny Law.

Yeah. That's just so good. Yeah. I love my last name so much. I don't really know. It's not like a badass. I just love it. Yeah.

And so anytime, if I have a kid, no, when I have a kid, I can't wait. I'm going to, their middle name will be Bristow. I love that. I think that's really cool. We've talked about using Lawless in some way. Yeah. It's just so good.

And it just married Lawless Lee. It just flows. Okay, I have to tell you something. So when I first came off, Bachelor and Bachelorette, which was almost five years ago now, you were the first person for inspiration for me. No way. Yes, because my girlfriend, Clio,

who runs, media company. She's really into that stuff. And she was into blogging and kind of helped Jillian Harris when Jillian Harris first came off the Bachelorette. And she was like, I'll help you with everything. But we need to find some inspiration for what your page would look like or what you like. Let's just like get started with what is like pleasing to your eye. And I, she gave me like 10 different accounts to look at. And I was like, well, the happily gray one's so cool. And then why happily gray? What's your story behind that? So a lot of people think it's related to the color and that I only like muted gray tones, but not true at all. Like I actually love a good pop of color.

But so growing up through my 20s, I'm from a tiny small, small town in northeast Texas. And just like kind of in that bubble, small town bubble and grew up with like parents that were really conservative. And so started happily gray very candidly like no like real intention behind it. It was just a creative outlet eight years ago. Okay. And at the time, I was going through my 20s. I'd moved to Austin, Texas, like from small town, like more diverse, bigger, bigger city. And kind of through that transition, realizing, like, life isn't so black and white.

It's actually gray. And I was in between, like, the daily gray or happily gray. And then ultimately, happily gray kind of was like that gray space was the creative space. And I felt more comfortable and, like, relieved that life isn't so black and white. It is actually really good. gray they're shit that doesn't make sense you become adult and and that that's just like a lot of times we're living in the in between and that's where I felt the most creative and the happiest and so like that that's a good story it very like candidly was like well I'll call it this because

this is where I am in my life and without knowing like this was going to actually be like business and what it ultimately did but I think that was honestly the best thing that could have happened that I didn't over thinking it was just where I was in life that's that's So because, like you said, like you did it as a hobby instead of thinking it and you turned it into a career, which I'm always such a big believer in for people to, I always think eventually at the end of the day you're going to make more money and you're going to be happier if you just like do the things that you love. Yeah. And it's obviously terrifying to do that for people. But it really, if you just stick to it and do what you love, you'll just, you're just creating more success for yourself. No, I think that you're so lucky too when you get to do what you love.

Like, I don't ever take that for granted. I went to school for nursing and worked in critical care for five years. And while I did love that, like being able to have the autonomy within your own company and, you know, now having like, especially with family, like I have more time for my family and I'm not having to like go to a black and white job, something that don't take for granted. I like that because Jason, my boyfriend always says about like breaking the blueprint of what you're supposed to do in life. And somebody, what did they say to him?

I'm like, oh, your grandparents must be like, what the hell are you doing for a job? Yeah. And he's like, that means I'm doing something right. Yeah. I'm afraid my parents still don't understand what I do. Which means you're doing something right. Yeah. No, and that's the thing with like digital media and blogging, like there, especially eight years ago, there wasn't a like blueprint.

Like, here's what you do. Here's how you do it. And you kind of, that's the beauty of it is you can just kind of do whatever you feel, you know, know, is your creative, like, naturally wanting to do. And I think that's the part that I enjoy the most of it. There was no, like, formula or layout. Yeah. All right.

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The fact that their dishwasher safe is such a bonus, too, because who really wants to worry about delicately handwashing glasses? Not I, people, not I. Create your crate and barrel registry, crate and barrel.com or at a store near you. So did you grow up being creative? Yeah, I did. It's always like fashion, particularly design. Like I've always had that, like not DIY, like definitely not crafty. I'm terrible at that.

Me too. More of the design, fashion stuff I've always, like, read, followed, loved. Happily Gray kind of started off of, like, loving to write. I love to write about fashion. There was never, initially there was no visual with what I'd write about, but then I quickly learned, like, people who need a visual. And so then we added that. But, yeah, no, I've always had that creative side.

And coming from a conservative background, my parents were like, you know, you should do health care, like, go to school for nursing. and you can always do whatever later. And it's kind of what worked out because thankfully, nursing, you work three days a week. You have 12-hour shifts. And so that gave me the time, the other four days, to work on blogging. I just started writing. You're happy.

Yeah. I'm just always so proud of people, even when I don't know them that they, like, went for it. Because I'm like, you turned it into a career with so many different avenues that you're going down now of so many things that you just love to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've done the same thing, though. I know, sometimes I don't even realize I've done that too.

I'm like, good for you. And I'm like, wait, I am so happy. I'm doing what I love too. Yeah. When it's you, though, it's hard to, it's hard to really, like, recognize what's... I know. I have a hard time pumping my own tires. Yeah.

Yeah. And obviously, people were drawn to your brand from the very beginning. So what do you think the key to your success has been to create such a powerful brand? Or is it just, do you think it's the work you put into? Or is it just because you love doing it so that you think it attracts people? Yeah. Like, I always say... even in life with relationships or business or whatever you're doing, you attract, you know, if you're

happy and doing things that you love, it really shows and it attracts people to you. Yeah. No, I genuinely like live and breathe. It's hard to turn it off. Like I love, love, love it. And I think, you know, in the beginning, like I would work until two or three in the morning. I'd get home. I'd do my three shifts a week with nursing. And I'd get home and those other days, I'd be like nonstop with it. And it was hard to turn off because I loved it that much. And, The more I learned about it and the more like creative we got and and it just, yeah, I know I fell in love with it. I would say like working hard and being and knowing like having like a bigger picture idea of what I wanted it to be, which I didn't have that until I actually was able to give up nursing and monetize. Right.

But I think that was like the pivotal point when it kind of was clear once I had the time for it and then we really like built a brand D&A and I was like, okay, this is the. what I ultimately want to be doing and then we kind of had that like big picture and then also the short term goals but like always like looking back on that big picture and what we wanted you must be just so happy that there's the space now because you started so long ago when you know was was blogging a thing when you started or like kind of but not really couldn't really make something out of it it was just an outlet a few in LA a few in New York um but not in the south because I started in Houston and that way no it definitely was like a new a new phenomenon like people weren't familiar with the idea and you're kind of starting to see it pop up here and there but

I was lucky because that's the timing of it I always tell people that like it was hard work but also I got lucky because the timing like trying to start a blog now it's hard oh my gosh yes platform like trying to do something different because you were just so drowned by everyone I mean there's so many people doing it at such a high level and beautiful content and you know really creative so I yeah it was there was not many people at the time yeah you really built it what is your favorite platform you know it's it kind of comes in waves instagram is like favorite but then like the algorithm and like numbers it kind of kind of can become a number game if you focus on that which i love that instagram has kind of like made some of the likes disappear to where

it's like less pressure on that but um i think at the end of the day like writing and blog content like us contributing to our own domain is really that's the only thing we own and so at the end of the day I think that's what I enjoy the most because especially because you're a writer you enjoy writing yeah yeah yeah and like photo editing and creating like I still love that but the social platforms can kind of come and go like are you on TikTok oh my gosh I was going to ask you that I am but I don't understand it at all like I've tried and I've tried and I'm like I don't I don't get it no I've been in my room trying to figure out like doing dances and I'm like the most on like coordinated dance person is TikTok only for dancing no like I have seen other influencers do it where they're like

in front of a mirror and they're like they jump it's one outfit they jump it's a second outfit which is interesting I guess if you're coming from more of a fashion background yeah but I'm just curious like I need to pull and ask readers like one do you want to see me on TikTok is that a terrible idea or would you kind of be into it and also then like what would you want to see yeah um I thought it could be interesting because I travel a lot. You travel a lot to do like a, from the moment you leave the door to like every kind of like little stop or like. That's a great idea. Like you're going to New York.

And it's like so you went, you did the show yesterday. And so it could be like from the moment you leave Nashville to the moment you get home. Like what did that look like on TikTok? So that's kind of, that's a great idea. What we've been playing around with. But have I done it? No. Well, it's also like I am such a.

Well, I mean, I'm pretty chill overall. like packing and traveling and getting to the airport and being that. Like, it always just brings me some level of stress where I also don't look cute at the airport. I remember I got a tweet once and people, people, one person was said to me, um,

saw Caitlin, she looked like shit at the airport and made me feel like more human about myself. And I was like, dang. Wow. That hurt, but kind of get it because I, I don't try and look good at the airport.

So whatever. Yeah. But it's funny because I'm like adding that one extra thing, I mean like, oh, I got a TikTok on every little part of my trip. I'd be like, ah. No, it's another level. I mean, at some point, you kind of have to draw the line and figure out, like, what works for you. When is it going to stop?

There's so many things to keep up with. Like, I used to, Snapchat used to be my jam. Like, I would only Snapchat. I even tweeted one time, somebody brought it up the other day. They're like, remember when you said this? And I said Snapchat over Instagram stories any day of the week. And now I'm like, I don't need to open Snapchat anymore. Now it's all.

But it's just so hard to keep. up with everything and I look at all the things you're doing like your your blog and brand primarily focused on fashion and at the beginning but now it's expanded to so many different things like how did that transition even begin I think you know too like well we're we're in this phase now where especially now becoming a mom I feel like I just feel more called to like I love that that new community and it's been nice really since the baby connecting with those new moms out there and that's a whole other world yeah yeah and that's I mean I think that our content has evolved with as like I've gone through all these life things um like I got married

and I kind of started more openly sharing about that and then we built a house and it was like okay let's let's let's start doing more interiors and home and that was like crazy like people love seeing that and then now with baby yep like they don't not only want they want to see what I'm wearing but they also want to know like where it's a navy's outfit from so I think just naturally as I've gotten older I mean I started this blog when I was like in 24 25 and it's just kind of naturally as I've through these different phases of live. Like, I hope that, like, I'm growing up with the people that are following along. Yeah, that's what I think that's such a cool part of, you really build, like, a community on,

on these platforms of social media. Like, you, and the ones that really stick around, they do grow with you. And they are just so invested. And you become friends with some of them almost. And, you know, you're, like, regular customers. And it is cool because you do get to grow through your different phases of life. It's really sweet. with your audience.

Yeah, it's sweet getting to do events and meet people face to face. Like, ultimately, most of the time I live behind a computer or a phone. And it's nice, like, meeting people that have followed for five or six years. And they will bring up things like, yeah, remember when you wore that or remember when your hair was this? Good or bad. Like, you're a friend. You're not a celebrity. So you get good and the good and the bad, which is always fun.

But, yeah, I know I love that. I love that side of it, which is ultimately why we had kind of decided to open a store to give that, like, more of a face. like a face to the brand like to have that more connecting that's what I was so I was going to ask what made you want to do retail and open up a store but that makes so much sense yeah do you spend a lot time in the store I mean it must be impossible you have a family and work to do but yeah we I'm there like once I would say once a week I'm in the store and it's hard to you know to always be there but because we're we're working or my baby I usually try to like wrap the day around four or five so I can actually be with her but yeah

her name's Navy yeah Navy James what a great name I maybe James I we like randomly thought of Navy and it was like my dad my dad initially was like you can't name your child Navy like absolutely not and he's like I'm gonna and he still does he calls her Navy Blue

like all these nicknames off of denim but he's like you can't name your child a color and I'm like yeah you kind of can it's not like it's it's not like it works dad but we were set on James because it's family on my side and my husband's side and we were between Stella James or Navy James and we really didn't know

and then we kind of were like maybe we call her James like a girl is James and then when we met her it was like okay you're Navy James I absolutely love that name thank you I don't know I think I just have like baby fever so badly all the time that I'm constantly I love hearing baby names I love hearing, like, the smell.

I was, whose baby was I holding the other day? Oh, we were in Buffalo visiting Jason's friends and family, and one of his friends' wives just had a baby. She was eight weeks old. Oh, my gosh, tiny. And she was 4.6 pounds when she was born. Oh, she was really little. So she's just a little peanut, and I was just like,

I can't even handle the smell and the cuteness. And just like, something about the whole home becomes more calm and just like, I don't know. I love babies so much. I'm like, I can't wait. I was the same way. Really? Baby fever my entire life.

Yeah. I'm obsessive about babies. Yeah. It's specifically like little babies. Yeah, we do. Yeah. And it is, it's the best thing of life. Like, if you're already love babies, you're going to die.

Like, it feels like coming home from the hospital, I will never forget that feeling. I feel like we were stealing something. Yeah. This precious little life. You're like, this is mine. It's so, it's the sweetest time. I mean, challenging. Of course.

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Okay. We met and within about three months, we're like, okay, this is it, we know. And got married within seven months. It was crazy. It was so fast. But yeah, like I feel like my. My mom has always said when you know you know, but that never made sense to me until I met him. And I dated people in the past and it was just like it clicked.

And so we got married and then we built a house. And then it was like, gosh, now we're having a baby. But that's so, I love when people, you know, it just, things fall into place when you're doing what you love, I believe. And so you've done, you've worked so hard on this brand that you've built and you've just absolutely killed. it with so many things that you're doing that you I think you're just so happy in life that you again attract that kind of person that you're meant to be with and then that everything falls into place and all of a sudden you're married in a house with a new baby and you're like how did this happen yeah but things just fall into place when you're when you're you know it's it's gone by

in a flash like it's we just haven't stopped since since we met but yeah no he's he's he's amazing and um like it's just like I was saying it's so it's such a sweet time yeah having a baby like it makes me want more babies oh i hear you i don't even have any and i want more you're gonna you're gonna die you're gonna love it i really am i really i've all my best friends have babies two of them my sister as kids i'm just like okay my time is soon you're you're ready i'm i'm ready uh and it's funny because i'm such like newborn babies put them in my arms and jason's like oh does it scare him yeah it scares he's more like okay when they're a teen like I'm going to kill it as a dad.

And he's like, but babies and like toddlers, he's so funny. I swear though, you, when it's yours, like, Mad kept saying right before I was, we're about to deliver, like, he kept saying, like, I'm just afraid I'm going to drop her. I'm afraid I'm going to drop her. I'm like, you're not, you're not going to drop her. Yeah. It's okay. If you do drop her, she'll be okay.

Yeah. Like, but they, like, when it's your baby, like, he's so good with her. And I think, you know, you don't, he is a man. You don't, like, anticipate that. But it's true because you don't think it's going to come naturally to. you as a man. It does. Yeah. How did you guys meet? So I used to be with CEEA. My old agent introduced us. And so he also was an agent at CEEA. So we were just, I had met him before in passing, and I'd been kind of dating guys. And then, yeah, I was single. We were at a show

and my, yeah, my agent introduced us. And it was, yeah, from there. Yeah, we actually are from, we grew up within 20 minutes of each other. And we were, born at the same hospital. Very wild. Like I, yeah, we were talking that she introduced us and then we were talking and he was like, mid-sentence and I was like, wait, where are you from? Because I could just tell like that there's a familiarity there. And he was like, Shreveport, Louisiana. And I was like, what? Like, I never meet anyone in Nashville that even knows where that is. And then I was like, where were you born? Which sounds so creepy. I didn't even think about that. That was like impulsive. And he said, well, it's night in North. And I was like, oh, dear God.

But that's where I was forward. Wow. That's crazy. That is, I mean, stuff like that, you can't ignore it. Yeah. And then our parents had mutual friends and kind of knew each of each other. And, yeah, it was crazy. And then we just kept hanging out.

And, yeah. What has been for you, like, the most unexpected challenge as a mom? I think the work, well, the guilt. Oh, yeah. You know, that's real. I've heard, like, all of my friends that have kids, they, I've heard. them say that and struggle with that and it's true like it's tough with with the work mom balance and um trying to do it all and and then at the end of the day like even when you do it all you still feel

like you should have done more and and and like trying to not have those feelings of like of of guilt over you know because i think you know working full time and and being a mom it's it's hard it's nothing easy about it but um i think that's That's just been, it's just, and then we're still going through it, trying to get, figure out, like, what, what works best. Yeah. How old is Navy? She's eight months. And so for the first six months, we, so we just moved into a new office.

My whole team did. But before that, we were working out of our bonus room. Oh, really? But the first, literally the first six months of, since she's been born, we all worked there. So in a way, it was kind of, even though it was crazy, like, two weeks after I got home from the hospital, my team's, like, back in the house. Oh, my gosh. We're all working. Yeah.

On a given day, there's, like, seven. people in the house like yeah kind of crazy but I'm thankful for it because I being able to be there and like I did a lot of the feedings myself and kind of like popping in when she was crying or even though we we have a nanny it was it was nice to be in the house to always like care so now it's been a bit of adjustment because now I'm going into an office and I'm gone for eight hours a day right so it's just been I just had to get used to it but thankful I had the time because I know a lot of moms like they have to go back after after three months so that's wild to me because it's a

different in Canada, it's like a year maternity leave. What? You guys get that long? Yeah. That's crazy. It might even be just over a year. Wow. And in the States, it's three months. Yeah. That's amazing because I can't imagine that three months flies by. I mean, you're still trying to figure out what you're doing. Like, their schedules are still in limbo. Like, it, I can't. Three months is just not

enough time to just, you know, like that, I remember that one thing like about moving to the States from Canada. That was something that stood out to me of being like that's not okay like it's that's why it makes me so thankful to do what I do to wear like in my team knows like at 3 o'clock 330 Navy comes up to the office and she's like hanging out with the girls the rest of the day so I kind of leave the house around 830 and then I know like in my mind by like 330ish I'm going to be able to be with her to me that's so special too that you have a little girl you have this like team of is your team just women it's all it's all women and she's going to grow up with this you know like I just

that's if I'm going to have a daughter I always want boys but again at the end of the I don't care or what I have but like if I have a little girl I just want her to you know like have this supportive women group that's just they're working and doing what they love and for her to grow up and see that that's so special it's you know too I think one of the things that's helped me with dealing with like the guilt and trying to balance it all is no knowing that she's seeing me go and work and do and then like she's coming up the office and she's seen us kind of all grinded out like I want that I want to send to have that message and for her to feel empowered by that.

Yeah. Oh, she will. And that's, you know, something that a good friend of mine that also does, does all of this, like, had passed along. And that's been a sense of relief knowing that, like, I'm sending that message. Yeah, it's such a good message. I think it's great. And you also recently launched Happily Gray Heart, which is a fitness, fitness vertical, right? Yeah.

Well, so it's actually, it kind of started that. It's actually a service arm to Happily Gray. So it was around fitness events. Yeah. And we've kind of opened it up a bit more. So it's, HG Heart is the service arm to happily gray. It's where anything philanthropic that we do is kind of under that umbrella, which we launched it with fitness events. And so we would get like 50, anywhere from 40 to 50 people together and work out together and partner with a brand and everyone's wearing the gear.

And then there's a trainer, local trainer that is leading it. And so it's really, really fun. It was a way for women to connect. and we did it in like five cities, and we're still working. The whole idea of that program is for it to be open to the public. Yeah. And the ticket sales are 100% given to a local charity in that city. That's what we're actually working on for it to eventually be that.

Oh, that's incredible. Good for you. We've done it with just select people to kind of work out the kinks and figure out like what the program is really going to look like. Yeah. And then also under that umbrella, we just launched Miles Smiles. Yeah, you have pups, so you'll really relate to this. Tell me everything. So I have two great dames

Oh my gosh, yes One of them is, his name is Miles He's two years, two and a half years old He's 150 pounds Oh my gosh Like big gray teddy bear And we've been taking him to Vanderbilt And he goes to Sea Crest Studios

And sees all the kids And the kids will come down from their room And meet Miles And it's just been a fun thing We call it Miles smiles Oh wow The last time we did it One of the kids that was there

The month before Was still in the hospital But like came in And it was like, Miles, I know Miles. Like, loved it. How special. It's been, that's been really fun. I want to do that with one of my dogs.

You absolutely should. We did, we just had to get him certified a specific certification and then we were able to. So what, but what are the things that your dog had to prove? Like, I was reading up on therapy dogs and that's the kind of stuff because we've been trying to train ramen, but he. Ramen, what a great name. Yeah, ramen and Pino. And ramen. like licks too much

like he's just such a liquor and but Pino would be absolutely perfect for it so I want to get him certified because I would love to do that same thing it's well there's it depends on the place where you want to take them like Vanderbilt

only required I forget the name of the certification but it wasn't like a therapy level certification and so it wasn't that difficult we're still working towards getting him certified on a therapy level it's just it's hard it's extensive it's a lot of hours it's a lot of it's a big commitment on the owner because you have to work with them on all the stuff but most places do

require it to be that level of certification but it was interesting in Vanderbilt doesn't because that's I mean I would love to go there I that's where the Seacrest he does like a radio station out there and so yeah I've been there before it's so cute it's so cute and I just Pino and ramen and I'm sure your dog is so they're so good with kids yeah no Miles is the is the best and kids like you mean he literally looks like Clifford but he's not red yeah and they like light up when they see like I bet a big monster dog yeah absolutely oh that's so sweet all right so mr. Chris Harrison was telling me about this crazy party Hulu through in Beverly Hills with all the biggest

reality TV stars from like every show and now I have to watch the commercials to see what happened like everyone else I don't usually get FOMO but in this case I have extreme FOMO here Luckily for you, Hulu has the reality TV that you love. So start your free trial today at Hulu.com. Gosh, you have so many great things going on. What's your favorite part of it all? Is there something specific that you... I still, I mean, I still love the styling aspect and the fashion.

I think down to the core, like that's what I enjoy the most. But honestly, you know, I think now there's five of us. And I, the most exciting thing has been just having an office and all of us working from one space. because I've kind of had employees that have worked remote like from different cities and I think it's been really exciting that we're all together in one space

and like just the energy of coming to work with a lot of females and like talking small talk about what everyone's wearing or what everyone watched last night or this or that like it's just that's that synergy has been really really nice and fun

that's I said it I've said it millions of times on the podcast and just in life there's something magical happens when a group of creative women or you know come together it's really wild yeah yeah um what's what's the topic in the office now like what's the what's the show everybody's watching i need a new show to binge honestly i think the most the most talk lately has been about shits creek oh it's a great show i was canadian yeah i'm

obsessed with it yeah i like we lately there's one emily one of the girls in the office hasn't watched it yet and we're all like okay what are you waiting for we all come in we talk about it and like you've got to you now have to yeah you're gonna have to get in to watch I'm like, everyone knows I go back. I'm back to Grey's Anatomy. I've never watched it. I've never watched it. What?

I've, I think, you were a nurse. So, coming from a nursing background, it's really cheesy, though. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. It's kind of like, oh, this never happens this way. Yeah. And not that you, like, don't watch it, but you kind of roll your eyes. And so I don't know. You're like, this is more of like a cheesy soap opera.

Yeah, I never watched it. Which it's funny that you're saying that because my husband the other day was like, we need a new show. We need something to. And he's like, it's like, it's like, It's going to be Grace Anatomy. I was like, oh, no. But it's so good. Yeah.

No, that's what everyone's like, no, you just need to get in. Yeah, I'm on season, end of season six. And I just, I try to watch other shows. Like my girlfriend was like, you have to put on cheer. It's the best show. It's amazing. And I did. I watched the first episode, and I absolutely loved it.

I went to put on the second episode. And I just keep being like, yeah, but what's happening in Grey's Anatomy? And then I keep going back. I'm like, it's six episodes of cheer, Caitlin. You can get through it. And you need to finish that. before you go, what is it, like 25 of Grays? Like, it's crazy.

It's insane. And every season on Grace has like 18 episodes. It's not like a quick... It's a big commitment. Oh my gosh. It's insane. Okay, so everybody, when they come on my podcast, has to confess something to me. I know.

And people get so nervous for this, but I get so excited. It's nerve-wracking. No, I'm like, I'm like, well, usually I'd have rosé for you to drink. Like, I missed my shipment because I was traveling yesterday, and they were shipping a whole new thing of spade and sparrows, my wine to my house. And I got the notification on my phone, like, your doorbell rang. And I was like, no, I missed it. Otherwise, I'd have a bottle of rosé for you. I'm dying.

I'm dying to try it too. Oh, I'll send you. Yeah. You love rosé, right? I love rosé. Okay. I mean, in a given day, my team will tell you, like, we generally drink rosé almost every day. Oh, that's amazing.

I drink red wine every day. But, yeah, okay, I'll definitely send you a bottle of the rosé. Okay. Okay, yeah. So confess to me. Okay, so the best confession I probably have is about a year ago, Matt and I, we're at dinner. Yeah, Madison, my husband. We're at dinner with two of our best friends who are actually not Navy's godparents. Okay. And this is actually, yeah, this is two years ago. This before I was pregnant. So we're all drinking, having a good time. We had a ton of wine. And we were like, you know what? Let's. Let's just go, I'll go get tattoos together. Oh my gosh. That's something I would do.

Which we're not really that kind of, like, I have one tattoo and it was like a really big deal. And like my mom was distraught about it. So we were like, yeah, let's just go. And our friends are like, yeah, you guys are crazy. And then Matt, I were like, no, let's do it. Let's go. So we are like walking on Broadway, which I'm not proud of this. Walking on Broadway, we go into like a tiny little hole in the wall tattoo parlor.

And literally both got tattoos Stop This is the tattoo Oh it's beautiful though We said We're standing there And he's like What do you want?

We're like We're like how both of our name Sarth M Yeah This thing is forever Let's just And this is before we got married Like we would been

We'd been dating for I mean we knew we were getting married But we weren't engaged And How much did you drink? Oh no like a bottle each probably Yeah Like quite a bit

And we were like Let's just do always M which actually is very cheesy um but it's like let's um let's just do it in the script and you kind of can't tell and we just told the guy we that we wanted this we had two different guys doing it like it would have made so much more sense if one person was doing both of them so they looked the same yeah no i was laying on one then she's laying on the other and we had two different guys and we kind of told them just like a man descriptie yeah so yeah that's and our friends were like looking at it's like what

the hell just happened what are you guys doing and we were so happy and proud and then woke up the next morning and we're like oh dear god this is real this is like yeah that doesn't come off that's funny do you know how many of my tattoos start with that a bottle of wine yeah it's probably honestly it's probably the best way it's really well done though it's really pretty well i like the spot and i like you i can give you the name of the place we went yeah i mean i'll probably i'll have a bottle and go tonight i'll do it don't tempt me with a good time i all of my i did the same thing my so my ex-boyfriend who is um Like my high school sweetheart.

We were together on and off for like four years. And he's a tattoo artist now. Okay. And so we still have the same like circle of friends that we grew up with and we're friendly and he's great. He's really talented tattoo artist. And we went out one night and I'm not even talking a bottle. It was a lot more than that. And shots and shots.

And then he opened up the tattoo place he worked at. And he put, I was like, I want like an old school. Like I used to want a full sleeve of pirate theme like a pirate. was fascinated with like pirate ships and like I just loved it yeah and I was like I want like an old school pirate tattoo like a sailor tattoo and he was like you should do like a swallow on your arm because those birds are like the only bird that remember how to fly home and sailors always have them tattooed and it was and I was like yeah do it and he free-handed uh-uh on my arm my my birds on my arms and then when the one was done I'm like do the other arm and so I got two

I have two birds, and birds are my biggest fear in life. I hate birds so much. And I have two birds tattooed on my arms. Another one, I have two teardrops tattooed right here so that when I do this, it looks like Oh, I love that. No, you don't. I love that. It's witty.

It's witty. I mean, it's got witty to it. I was drunk in 19. And there's so many, but I mean, there's only one tattoo of, I have about, I don't even know. I think, I have like nine. And there's only one that I absolutely hate. And it's behind my ear, so you don't really ever see it.

But it's like music notes and stars, it's so bad. And it's not done well at all. I think everyone, though, has, like, if you're getting tattoos and that you think, like, everyone's got one that they're like, that's so funny. How long ago did you say that was that you did that? This was two years ago. Yeah, this was the first one I ever got. Oh, yeah. Okay, so explain that one to me and to the listeners.

Yeah, this was when I was kind of going through a hard time. I got married and I was 20. Okay. And then we were divorced in a few years. And thankfully, it was like, as nice as a divorce. divorce can be yeah it it it parted pretty easily and so this was um kind of a go after going through that experience um being present was a really big um it resonated a lot with me at the time like stop living with regrets in the past um stop like obsessing about planning and planning and planning

and so this like yeah be period like that's it that's all just be like when you're walking into your convenience store and paying for your gas like just like actually looking at the person and talking to them and saying thank you know instead of like looking at your phone glancing up like and running out the door just like trying to be present in moments and yeah it just was something through my 20s this really resonated a lot and actually it's kind of become a theme with the brand too and in in the store we actually have this back wall that we're like what do we put back there do we put our brand i'm like ah no that doesn't feel right and um i worked with april tomlin a designer in town and um she helped me she was like why not just be like it's kind of everywhere

when i see be i think of your brand so that's just kind of become this message plus it's a good reminder to look up and see that it's on your wrist so you always is do you feel like you've really um like lived through that like yeah yeah no i mean i definitely think and that's why like it's it's like very visibly on my wrist like when i like turn my hand in i always see it um but i think through my 20s i'm 32 and i think through my 20s it just like that i through that like that's kind of like the overall message i i would like continue to work on and kind of resonated the most all right let's be honest for a sec we all know that shaving can feel like a chore. It's another task you have to take care of among so many others.

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are self-aware and know to work on themselves in their 20s. Because it's the most important time to do that. It's, you know, I actually had a dinner with some girlfriends last night and we were talking about, they're talking about on-site and how impactful it is. And it's like they were talking about like through your 20s, you kind of are just like running like crazy. You're trying to build your career.

You're trying to do this, that, this, that. And you think you're supposed to be here and there. Yeah. Yeah. all the check marks and then when you get to your 30s you're like shit like what's what's happened but then there's like your interkids and family and they were talking about how impactful like that self-awareness and not letting it get to like your 40 and then you're like having to like kind of do all of all this therapy and that's we're talking about how like most people go to onsite when they're like early 40s because they've like all this all this stuff has happened and damage has happened between 20s and 30s and then it's like it's just built up. Yeah. And then there's kind of like you hit a wall and then you have to. And so we were sharing stories about like doing, being proactive through your 20s and 30s to where, you know, not getting to that point. Because there's just so much stuff in life that happens in that, those two decades. It's so important. I mean, I'm such a big believer in therapy. I go all the time. And so on site for people who don't know. That's like a retreat almost in Nashville, right? Where you can go. And it's like, is it five days or? Yeah. I think they have different programs. I've never been. But it's like on my. my immediate list. I really want to do it. All my friends have been. And I can just tell just being around them, they're so changed. And they really believe the curriculum that they have is like

really, really intensive. And you can go four days or you can go like a week. And they also have single like focused or you can do couples. And so I think there's a lot of different options. But it's, it's really intensive therapy. And you totally turn off. Like you can't have your phone. And it's like out like nine in the morning until five at night. Yeah. Yeah. They say you get, I don't remember what they say, but it's a certain amount of years of therapy you get in these like four days. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's definitely they, and everyone that does it like comes back and they're like, I'm changed. Yes. A few of my girlfriends. I'm actually signed up to go in California to one. And I go in July. So I'm so excited to go. But my girlfriends have done it too. And same thing. Like I, you can see a shift in them. You can just tell their, you know, they've really done the work on themselves. And you can do it in this amount of time. time where it's like you know it's if you if you want that yeah and everybody should want that because again just all that self work just brings you success in whatever way I'm not talking

money I'm like success in relationships and with yourself and doing what you love and it's just so important to do that self work yeah no I mean it's like working out I mean you work out and you work on your physical physique like mental health is it just as important if not more important yeah I think Yeah, and I think what one of the girlfriends last night was saying that, like, she has her own company, and there's a lot of women that work for her. And she was like, yeah, my biggest calling, the reason why I did it is because I have these people that are looking to me and that I'm supposed to be leading and encouraging and empowering. And if I'm going to have that responsibility, then I've got to make sure that I'm straight and that I'm healthy. Yeah, and that really resonated with me. Yeah, absolutely.

I love it so much. I get so passionate about that topic. Okay, well, we're going to end it with your favorite things. So just like rapid fire, your favorite. Okay. Your favorite date night with Madison? At home on the couch with our dogs and a fire with wine. That would be my favorite, too.

And he's cooked. Does he cook? That's the best? Yes. He cooks more than me. Which I always envisioned that I was going to be that. But with work and stuff, he cooks a ton. Do you enjoy cooking? Yeah, I do.

And I know that I'll eventually get back into it when things slow down. but like I'm just it's like not the season for it and so and that's great that he does he he loves it and he's great wow personal favorite item in your new store uh Nunushka it's a line that we've brought in yeah from Hungary and their stuff is awesome they do like all vegan leathers and awesome their stuff is amazing ooh I can't wait I need to go check this store up um all-time favorite outfit the one you're wearing that um yeah I do love this I've had this for five years it's a jumpsuit it's the most fabulous denim jumpsuit It's kind of like the 70s vibe.

Like, if I had a fro, it would be cool. It's perfect. Yeah, this is great. Also, I'm obsessed with bombers in jackets and outerwear. So there's like, there's like five bombers in my closet that I've had for years. Really? Yeah. Have you ever, have you seen the Eritzia puffer?

Oh, no, I haven't. But I love a good puffer. Okay, Erycia. Do you know Ritza? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you do. So I'm, I lived in Vancouver for 11 years and that's where it started. Oh, I didn't know it was Vancouver, right? Yeah.

And they have, I have three different ones. ones of their puffers. They have the best ones. Yeah, I love a good puffer. I actually just got one from Chris Joy. Have you heard of that brand? It's UK-based. It's K-H-R-I-S. Okay. Unreal. Like the most creative puffers, you have to go look at them. Yeah, they're amazing. It's this multi-color paisley print puffer, and it's

awesome. Okay, done. I was actually going to do some online chopping today anyway. Okay, favorite style and trend of the moment? Hmm. Oh, boy. There's a lot. We just had Fashion Week, which I sat out on. You know, I love, I think, like, on a lot of the runways, I saw a lot of pistachio. So it's, I would say I just, I'm loving, like, more pastel colors. Like, I just got a new bag that is like, it looks like an Easter egg.

It's, like, very pastel-y. And so lavender and pistachio. What is pistachio? Like a green? Like a soft green, like very seafo. Oh, yeah. And I like it where when you, when they do it, like, head to toe. like a full pistachio suit.

Okay, I did a full like mint green suit yesterday. That's similar. Okay, okay. I mean, the fashion people got a pistachio, but same. I'm now calling it pistachio. I was like, what the hell's pistachio? All I'm picturing is like a brown nut. Well, yeah.

You're like, yeah, well, no. Okay, that's a good one. I really actually love pastels right now, too. And I used to be all black, white or gray. That's like all I would wear. And now I love, yeah, okay, good pop. Love it. Okay, favorite accessory?

Favorite accessory? I would say probably lately. I've just been stacking loads of jewelry. Yes, I love. I've been eyeing everything. Okay, there's this line. Some favorite accessory would be this line Drew. Don't look at my nails.

I need any manicure. Oh, gosh. So this line named Drew, D.R.U. And they have the most incredible, it's out of L.A. Her jewelry is amazing. this ring I've had one of my best friends gave it to me and it means you don't know if you can see that but it has like

Enthesios which means like the Spirit of God be with you and then she does like little studs but what's great about this ring is it's flat and so when I go to like side my hand in my pocket it doesn't catch and I like I'm a very low maintenance jewelry girl so I love her jewelry this one's also hers too Mad just gave me this when we opened the store but it's this cross that wraps so it's yeah

so nice I you know we're all my Julie's from. I got it from Aldo and H&M last night really quickly before or night before I went on the stray hand show. I was like, I need some cute rings. It's perfect to like pick up quick things. Oh yeah. But then in like five days it'll turn my finger screeners.

Yeah. So Drew, D.R.U. D.R.U. Okay. That's amazing. Is that like that's where you got the bracelets and stuff? No. So this one's John Hardy. I've had this for ages. This is Babel Bar. Bobbaar has some amazing stuff right now. I don't know anything about fashion.

Okay. You have. Bar is it's affordable it will not turn it's like nice enough but the price point is still attainable okay um and they have a good jewelry right now this is a larsen and jennings watch the one that you know we wore what daniel the new york influencer she did she teamed up with them and then this is a cardier nail bracelet that i literally like wear all the time yeah i love the stacking that you've got going on it's great but i used to hardly ever wear jewelry but i've like come to realize that it's i work in fashion i probably shouldn't pay attention to the jewelry so i feel like even if you're like dressed down or dress up

I love jewelry. It's a good pop Yeah, good accent. I, as you could tell like I like ripped jeans and like a baggy crop top. That's what I'm normally And a beanie. But I still love jewelry. Okay, favorite place or thing to do in Nashville? It could be a restaurant

or anything. Favorite thing to do is go listen to shows. My husband's a music agent. So we will go like he has shows late like after the baby goes down. We'll go out and listen to his show So, yeah, like, I like listening to the newer upcoming artist. He just started working on a guy named Jake Scott, and the guy is amazing. I'm so excited about him.

Yeah, yeah. He actually is from L.A., and it's kind of this more pop-pop-y alternative, but the music's great. So I'd see that that's our, like, because we usually do dinner at home with the baby, and then we'll go out for a show. Yeah, oh, that's great. Okay, and then favorite account to follow on Instagram. That's tough. The Cut, I think, is hilarious and funny. Really?

Yeah. The cut? The cut, yeah. We will, like, repost quotes of theirs. It's just corky and funny. Following now. And then there's a handful of influencers, too. I mean, I always get inspiration from other influencers that I love to follow and that are doing

interesting things. Tezah, do you know the New York influencer, Tessa? We have different brands, but I'm always just really inspired by her. she's like the photography and just like the wit behind her work is really incredible yeah what was the name again teza like tez z z a yeah yeah okay and favorite piece of advice you've ever received probably be probably be i mean that's that's yeah that's why i ended up getting that as a tattoo um yeah and then most recently i would say with becoming a mom it's been give yourself a little grace um like like grace is kind of the name of the game so you don't like

ultimately just crush yourself and yeah that that's lately that's what's resonated the most okay all right take a sip on the bright side with the new duncan macha lattes you guys if you haven't already you need to try one asap try the refreshing combination of sweeten matcha green tea blended with creamy milk and you can enjoy it iced hot or frozen it's a delicious way to hit the reset button on your day and it's also just a really delicious way to drink something delicious okay i really do love the latte from Duncan because it's kind of a nice change of pace from ordering a coffee or regular latte and I've been obsessed with it lately because my favorite part is that you can customize it. So for me, that's typically a non-dairy milk. And then I order a hot one if it's chilly outside

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fall. So it's a journalist run page that reports on good news only and they share like these truly amazing inspiring stories from women a woman finding her long-lost dog soldiers using their arrest periods to feed koala bears in Australia, cute baby videos like... Oh my God, how inspiring

I love that. It's unreal because you know when you scroll and you just get like bleh and then you see that. I'm always like and then that's when I stopped scrolling. I'll be like okay I saw the good news movement. I'm going to go on with my day. I'm leaving on this note. I'm going to go on a positive note. It's the best. I actually saw

So the Duchess No What is the Instagram account for Oh the Dutch Judge of Seth I'm going to butcher it Of Sussex But I don't think

Does it still exist Because they really Maybe not But they were only following one person And it was the good news movement No way And that's how I found it And then I serve it

It's just honestly the best 100% I'm following this account for And it's just It literally changes my day sometimes with what they do it's really really wait there was one recently so this woman was breastfeeding at breakfast at a restaurant and it was like her and her baby were there and she her food had just come out and the baby started crying so she wanted to feed her and so she's breastfeeding and the dinner

or the breakfast place sitting there and a woman came over and cut it all up for her and like helped her eat and help the baby just because that's that's actually so amazing because anyone that's breastfeeding and all that goes into that and being a mom like you just like you cry when those things happen that's what you said you really appreciate the help and the extra hands and it was just such you know the woman that helped her was finished her breakfast and just was an older lady that just came in her cut up her food for and helped her eat oh my that's so sweet i definitely have memories when we were breast when i was breastfeeding where like little things like that and you do not forget that stuff because that's you're

just kind of at a moment of like you'll you'll you'll you're just kind of at a moment of like you'll you'll you'll take any and all help you can get, but the people that, like, that, you know, that occurs, that they realize, like, oh, I'm going to do this, that it's so special. It really is. Yeah, even just all that you'll, you'll see and you'll be like, okay, you're right. This is the best account I could ever call? I'm following.

Okay. And then before we wrap up, is there anything we miss that you want to share? Because you've so much going on and, like, what's something that you're really proud of right now? I mean, you should be proud of all that. Yeah. Yeah. More than anything.

I mean, we're, we're just so excited. It's meant to feel like this retail experience. It's meant to feel like you're walking into a. happily gray closet it's tiny and um it will set up that way so and like really like every detail of the paint color the hats on the wall the tile like everything was chosen like with the brand in mine so it felt like you're walking into this very happily gray experience so on that's yeah that's what we're most excited about where we carry low inventory and everything so there's like a momentum behind it and um hopefully every time you're that the customer's walking in that they're

seeing new things and it feels like fresh and and and also like i hope i hope i hope you that it feels like, you know, what you would see, that I'm, everything, the clothing in there, it's like what I'm actually wearing and then the accessories, like, hopefully feels very happily gray. That's great. That's amazing. I love it. And where can everybody find you? So we are in L&L market, which is the nations.

The dress is 3814 on Charlotte Ave. And then we are Sweet 147. Okay. And on Instagram? Happily Gray. And then your... And then my... Happily Gray is our brand account.

And then my account is Mary Lawless Lee. Okay, perfect. And then do you, what is your blog just happily gray.com? Yeah. And then you can also shop, we have a shop tab with all of our, everything that is in store is also online. So anyone that's out of town can also shop everything from happilygray.com. You'll see the tab.

Oh, amazing. That's perfect. Well, thank you so much for coming on the pod. This is so fun. Glad we can make it work. Next time we'll do rosé. Yes. But I will send you a bottle anyway.

I would love that. I'll come into the store. Last question is from me. Do you recline your chair on a plane? no what no I don't is that weird do you get mad when people recline into you no I don't because I also understand but like I'm I'm typically like have a laptop out and now have a baby like I don't know I don't even think about reclining my chair okay but as long as you don't get upset when other people were no I really don't no no I really don't but I'm passionate about this topic no I don't but I I think I mean maybe if you ask

me that like six or seven years ago I probably would have said yeah but I um no I have like so many of the things that I'm like trying to manage. I feel like with the baby, it's like you're just throwing as many toys and snacks and so they're okay and they're not annoying the people around crying. That's fair. So, yeah, like we just traveled home from Palm Springs and I don't think I

ever recline my chair. If you didn't have a baby and if you didn't have a work to do. Probably. Okay. That's all I needed to know. I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Offba Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Get new episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcast 1.com.

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