Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Masters of Flip

Episode Date: May 21, 2019

Today, it's a double date as Kaitlyn and Jason are joined by HGTV's Masters of Flip Kortney and Dave Wilson! Join in all the fun as Kortney and Dave rehash their love story and backgrounds as musical artists. Kortney also explains how she and Dave have gotten married 5 times, including her plans for another wedding this year. And it gets real when Dave confesses to Kortney for the first time what he and their son Sully really did on their trip to Boston. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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real estate power couples they are both originally from canada which i love moved to either high-fiving over being hot. No, we're high-fiving over being from Canada. Oh, yes, yes. They're originally from Canada, moved to Nashville to pursue careers in music and ended up falling in love and then falling into the world of home renovations

and together they have flipped over to 125 houses in Nashville and counting. Please welcome to the pod. Hosts of HTV's Masters of Flip, Courtney and Dave Wilson. We can't clap for ourselves. Yes, you can. Okay, we are to come.

I always clap for myself. If I'm on another podcast or anything, like they're not clapping. I am. I'm here. The show started. Yay. Thank you guys so much for being on the podcast today. Thanks for having us.

Very excited to have fellow Canadians on, which I also, I've been doing my research. And Kathy helped me and my stepmom and my dad are here. And we've discovered that you guys didn't meet in Canada. You're both from Canada, but you fell in love in Nashville. So tell us that story. You screwed that out. I know we really did. I came all the way.

here to meet myself an American. Get a visa and I'm not another Canadian. Son of a. Timing sucks sometimes. No, but I did. I was 18. I moved here from Canada and I told my parents like at December, just before Christmas, I'm like, come January, I'm moving to Nashville.

I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do when I get there and I have like $300 Canadian, which as you know is like $9. $9. $9.00. So when I got here, I had one name. This professor in Canada at Fanshawn London had given me a name of a guy who was a songwriter.

And so I called him up because I didn't have any money. And he was like, yeah, you can stay on my sofa. And when I showed up, Dave answered the door. And I thought Dave was gay. Oh. No. You wear one dress one time. And everyone's like you're gay.

You wear one dress. What a curveball. So I, you know, of course, was a little scared and a little nervous, but I knew I had to stay. And not because he was gay, because I was moving from another country. And my mom was like, you know, We haven't found you a place to stay. I was like, you know what?

Dave seems really sweet. So within the first week, Reba McIntyre had offered me a production deal. And I had a management deal and publishing new and all this stuff. And so my mom flew down again. Now, a week after I moved here, I realized right away he wasn't gay. And I kissed him. I was really into him. Oh, amazing.

I know. But my mom, I had not told that cert. I kissed her back. I know. Even better. Even better. I turned the gay guy. Everybody wants to do that at least once in their life.

Bucket list. Bucket list check. So my parent, my mom came down and she had already told my dad, like, Dave would make a great roommate because, you know, this is their oldest child and a gay guy is really appealing to them. So they found us an apartment, and we moved in together, but not knowing that we were together. Wow. Yeah, that's a great story. You guys need to make a movie out of this.

I know. It's crazy. movie. Okay, write a book. You need to write a book. We did. Oh, not about this. Oh. Well, you need to write a book about this. So your parents thought he was gay when they were in the apartment. Because I told him that he was when I said, I think Dave is gay, the very first day. But within 24 hours, I was like, okay, he's not. Gotcha. But that's, it's just crazy how it all happened. And then, you know, we ended up moving in together. And then about a month after that, I was like, oh my gosh, this is not just like some short little thing. I love him. Wow. And my dad was coming to visit,

and I was calling him baby every other day like every other moment and so I was like how am I going to get around that of it I better tell them and they were not happy oh they weren't no they were extremely upset

because I had just signed a record deal with Disney and I was like you know on my way and I was there I'm the oldest of four kids I just turned 19 years old like they were scared to death think of you know I was a parent I'm like oh my gosh she's going down this path

she's going to get married and have kids and she's 19 right I understand She's probably not in love. Right. What happened. And look what happened, baby. I think they were most, the dad, her dad was most worried.

The dad? It's 20 been 21 years. I don't think he's going to be excited about it. You calling him the dad. The father. The father. Of my bride. Yes.

I think he thought that I was hitching my wagon to like, it was going to be like a sugar mama type thing. And weren't you? And that's exactly what I was doing. Right. See, I would think they'd be upset because they thought like, dad had that thing to move together. Yeah, like you lied to them.

They weren't really crazy about that either. Thank you for bringing that up. Double whammy. Yeah. Yeah. So, but my dad called me a couple of days later and he said, you know, I love you and I've always trusted your decision making. Oh, you know, I had moved. They didn't were, oh, stop playing the violin over there.

Great for a little. Yeah, that was an actual air of violin. Yeah. Supposed to do it like this. Like a little, like a fingers, finger violin. A baby one. I like your air violin. That was good.

I was very convincing. Do you play? No, but our daughter does. Really? Yeah. Your daughter plays violin? Yeah. Oh, that was always an instrument I wish I could play.

Well, she can come and practice at your house. And all I could, yeah, all I could do is hit a good G chord on the guitar. I just live on the G chord. That's easy. You can play, we can teach you three more chords. You got a whole song. You have actually thousands of songs. Okay, I light.

I could play G, D, D, C, and A. E minor. Okay, A. And E minor. That's pretty much every song. Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I am a musician. I'm officially a musician.

I would rather you just strum the G chord over and over it than listen to the violin. Do not. My daughter's not listening to. She won't listen. Yeah, she's 10. Well, that's, it, a violin must be a tough one to hear when they're learning. Like, like the recorder, too. You know the, yeah.

Hot cross buns. Dave, yeah, that's actually the first thing they played on. But Dave leaves every morning. And it was like, it was actually kind of annoying me because we'd come down in the morning, I'd be getting the kids ready for school, and she does her violin practice in the morning. He was always gone. And it occurred to me like two months after this, that that's why you were leaving. You didn't want to hear the violin. Smooth. I can't admit that, can I?

Well, she's not listening. We've already, yeah. You could just give us the nod, and then I'll call you out on the microphone, and then it's on me, not you. So I have been looking for ways to get more vegetables into my diet. I know a lot of people make green smoothies, but only putting vegetables into my smoothies can make them taste not so great. That's why I love dull fruit and veggie blends. They've created amazing balanced recipes of frozen fruits and veggies. So I know I'll always get a delicious smoothie. All the work of pairing great tasting fruits and veggies is done for me. I can blend great flavors like berries and kale or fruits and greens in with some almond milk. Then seconds later, I am sipping on a tasty smoothie and getting essential nutrients into my diet.

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And I lost the record. I know. Well, so I actually had asked for a release from my record. record deal, right before September 11th. In fact, I was the last act ever to play the World Trade Center with Rascal Flats in between the towers a few days before it went down. Oh my gosh. And so the timing, obviously that was, you know, it was, everybody was devastated and it changed the world forever. But in my own little world, it also changed music for me because nobody was going to sign an artist after that, a new artist after that. And so we decided

to start playing music together because he was coming out of his deal. and I had just lost my deal and I wasn't getting re-signed as I thought I was and so yeah so we started playing music together and as it turns out that's harder to do

we did it together for many years we played music together and we've always worked together but it's hard like on our relationship it's hard because we're together all the time

and we still are can I just get a dumb question for some people out there that don't know including me when you get a record deal like when you say I got signed to a record later what does that mean

so it usually means that they give you some money like some holding money at advance and they're going to invest in you as an artist so they're going to let you make a record and back when I was signed and I hate saying that because that makes me sound

extremely old but it was 20 years ago when I was signed I mean you got a bigger advance and it was a commitment because they didn't sign just anybody it was a commitment there was no YouTube really like it wasn't that's not how you broke a record they committed to millions of dollars right when they did that

okay um to get put you out a radio tour and to make a video and that's when videos were like a really big deal and now um you know now people are discovered on youtube right so it's a little bit different and when you say they drop you does that mean they just can end the contract at any point kind of i mean they can it's well i'll tell you how i got dropped um please tell us i spent um what uh almost 25 years or 28 years trying to get a record deal when i finally got it it was this massive it was like a bible size book of contract.

Yeah, contract. Probably looks like your bachelor. Yeah, I was going to say that sounds familiar. It has first album with the amount of money they're going to spend and it has seven option periods. Yeah, it's crazy. So by the end, you're making like millions.

Right. And I was so excited. I was like, yeah, this is it. But after 9-11, when I walked into the office for my meeting, they said, we got to let you go. and that was it. Wow. So I suppose they could tie you up forever,

but you wouldn't want that. No, no, no. I would love to be tied up forever. As long as the numbers are there. Yeah, that's true. And I get to make a record and go tour it. That's true. But they won't.

They have the option to just say, hey, we're not going to make the record. So you started making music together and then tell me more. Yeah. So we actually, we started making music together. We had deals together. We actually had a record deal. together but we had had our son jet and right after jet was born you remember that show

nick and jessica jessica simpson yes okay it was on um like m tv or one of those okay um i can't remember the tuna chicken thing yeah yeah the tuna chicken she will never live that down for as long as she exactly so we we were watching that and i was like be her instagram bio so we were um we were watching that and i was like oh my gosh we could be like the country version of that. Now again, this is very naive because we're nobody. Nobody really knows who we are. I just had sort of thought oh, well, we both sing country music and

we have a child. And you're both very entertaining. Well, but we thought we were. You have great hair. You have great hair. Great hair. That's on TV. That works on TV. So I wrote a treatment. I googled how to write a treatment for a TV show. Really? And wrote a treatment and pitched it around

Nashville and this production company called us back and said, hey, come on in and meet. And they were like, we really love you guys but it's I don't think the timing's right and I was like well we're about to have another baby and we eventually want to adopt a baby and they're like yeah yeah yeah the timing's not right but we really like you yeah so we had sully our second child and then we actually had a failed adoption and right after the failed adoption they called us and said hey the timing's right we didn't they didn't know about the failed adoption but they're like everything's coming around to more family television again instead of that like redneck trick my truck stuff that was going on and so we did

We signed a production deal, and CMT picked up the show called Meet the Wilsons. Right. And they picked it up just in time to follow the adoption of our daughter Lennox. Wow. Perfect. Yeah, it was crazy. Like the week before contract was signed, we started filming, and she came, and it was amazing. It's like the best home movie ever.

I was going to say that that is ideal. Wow. And that just goes to show that timing is everything. Yeah, it is. Universe. Universe. Yeah, and now that just evolved. We were flipping house.

Like, we'd flip a house. really to make ends meet like one house a year you know back then that's how you got into it yeah well we actually got into it it was it was sorry sorry yeah tell them how we actually started to get into it so we um we were broke yeah we had just lost all our income our deals every deal gone and i was managing i was managing fan clubs for like toby keith and kennie chesney and lady anabellum and all these artists yeah what a funny little life we've had and so we had lost all of it and we and we We owned a house in East Nashville, and we had equity in it because the market had boomed. Right.

And we went home for Christmas to see her family, and I shut the heat off. Like a moron. Yes. No, no, I wouldn't say like a moron. Yes, no, it was like a moron. Like a frugal guy. No. Purps.

Yeah. It never freezes in Nashville. Well, it does because it did, and we came home to two feet of water. Oh, boy. So you're welcome. We're here because of me. So our pipes burst, all of our hardwood floors buckled and flooded, our house flooded. We came racing back.

We took the insurance money and renovated our own house. It was the first time we renovated anything together. Okay. Our agent came in, house sold right away. She was like, you need to do this. Yeah, you're like, wait, we're good at this. And so we did. We borrowed all the equity out of our new house, flipped our first house, and David,

was working as a waiter as a server at Demas's downtown and he was an awful awful awful server awful not awful not if you served alcohol to an alcoholic honey that's an awful server oh no well don't order a virgin margarita well that's what he order because he was an alcoholic oh I don't think you should do that that's rough there's a lot of room for error I always thought about that with children too ordering like virgin cocktails I was always like oh what if the bartender Give them alcohol. You got to break them in young. 12, yeah.

Hey, that's when I started. Oh, boy. Hi, dad. Okay, so you were serving, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, I don't know it's politically correct. I don't know either. But I was making, it's just, politically correct is a server.

It is? Are you sure? I don't know. This makes stuff up. So that was such conviction. Yeah, I believe you. I'll probably be one again one day. But then, so I would come home and tell Courtney that I had made a whopping $120 and she'd be very excited.

But even though I'd made like... 70 and you'd had a tally in your head of how much more money had that week. I had this like a little, like today would be like a spreadsheet. Yeah. But back then was just my head. Yeah. But we were broke. Yeah.

And so when we did this house flipping thing, when we bought our first house, we made, I think 30 grand. Yeah, like 25 or 30 grand in about four weeks. We were like, okay, this is better. Yeah, I'll take that. The agent brought it into Dimas's for me. Yeah. And I was like, I'm out of here.

Wow. Take your spaghetti. And you're virgin margarita. Wait, that's amazing. You guys have written music together, sang together, flipped houses together. Yeah. You're married and been together for that long. Like, how?

I'm not going to lie. Like, people say, people say, because you know what social media is like. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh my gosh, you know, dream couple, couple goals, like hashtag all this stuff all the time. And it makes me feel weird about it because, and I'm very open about this. I'm like, we do. We are, we have stayed together 21 years and I love him. He's my best friend.

It's amazing. But no marriage is perfect. And, you know, you can, we also flip a house in 60 minutes, which also doesn't happen, you know. It takes like two or three months. Yeah. And so they think they see everything, you know, in a thumbnail. And so it's not. What do you mean the marriage isn't perfect?

Yeah. Go into details on them. I want to go back on that one? I'm perfect. I feel pretty good about it. Tell me more. Yeah. Isn't that exactly the truth?

There you go. The guy's always like, everything's great, right? Everything's great. I'm like, what? Yeah. Are you crying? No? Okay, perfect.

Let's move on. Everything's perfect. That's hilarious. Yeah, no, I feel the same way, just the social media bubble and everyone's seen what they think is real life all the time. TV, Instagram, whatever. Everybody always thinks they know just from these 10-second clips

on Instagram stories, but the truth is nobody wants to see your shitstorm on Instagram anyways. They're like, if you put your arguments on social media and it's funny though, when you're self-deprecating on Instagram, I feel as long as you're not doing it every day when it's like, you know, a drop in the bucket, I think it's good and I feel like people respond

to that because they're like, oh my gosh, things are being real, it's relatable. We always joke. We wrote this song, Dave wrote this song actually for me, I marry me again. I marry me again. Just marry me again. Marry me again.

And he surprised me. We were doing a show and he surprised me on stage and proposed to me and we got married again. Not on this spot, but we got married again. Anyway, it's so romantic. It's so romantic. We've been married five times. What? Yeah, really.

And we've got. And it's been years and we're due. So we really, we are due to get married again. We're going to try to get married again the next year. But the point of this is that at the end of the video. Well, now you do. Exactly. I'm the planner.

There you go. But we have this song called, Marry Me Again in it. We shot at the video in Cuba. And at the very end, there's this beautiful shot. The whole song comes together in this shot, and we're in the ocean,

and the cameras are circling us. You're not going to say what I think you're going to say. Okay, what am I going to say? Go, you say it. If I say it, then we've said it. We were fighting. We were fighting so hard. Like cats and dogs.

No talking. No talking. There were waves coming up over our heads. There's a dude with a, you know, holding the music. box like so that we can actually lip sync the words the camera you know the director's up to his like chest in water and every time we watch that video we laugh yeah because that's real life and

that's real marriage and the thing is is for a lot of that well for some of that trip we weren't fighting but we were fighting for a very specific reason because you kept going out with the director every night and I had to get up early what a fun guy it's right from day one you're building relations It's called Networking. I'm networking, Courtney. Yeah.

I know my eyes are bloodshot, but I'm networking. Oh my gosh. That's so funny. It's nice that you can laugh about it now, though, watching the video back. It's real, and it doesn't mean it's the end. And sometimes people say things that they don't mean, and they're like, oh, my God, I can't do this.

But the truth is, we can. Yeah. We're built to do this. You know, like, we can. And I'd rather do it with him than anybody else. Yeah, I hear that. Keep, when you watch the video back, though, can you tell, or is it like a magical moment?

We can tell because I, like, we have, like, nuances in our... Because she's punching me in the side of the head. But from our perspective, it looks like flirting. Yeah, it looks like we're making out. Really, I'm biting him. And I hired a guy in Cuba to bring in, like, 35 jellyfish and they're like, send it her way. It's sicker. Let's see.

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and I don't know why we were really arguing like crazy it was just we were both annoyed at things and the picture is people are like you could just see your happiness like this is so genuine hashtag couple goals hashtag in love

hashtag oh my god people always say mom and dad what's that yeah I don't know what that is I don't get it yeah but the photographer's like okay guys fake smile and she's like I'm so fucking annoyed

I know. I'm laughing. I know. She's like, your breath smells. I know. It's like the most unromantic conversation we've had

but we're laughing at our ass off. And now we look back at the pictures. They're great. And there's a story behind it, right? That's the thing. Is there a story? I think I actually, right before we got in here,

I was looking at your Instagram account and I saw that. Is that the one with the bracelet? You had a bracelet on to you? Yes. The stupid resort wristbands just did that. I just got back from Jamaica and I was like, please do away with the wristbands.

Like, can't we even do it on our phone or something? I was thinking of the same thing. The phone. There was a, it opened up a whole thing of DMs when I put that out there because women were like, my husband forgot to take his off at our wedding on the beach and all the photos and, yeah. I know. You see, a husband would never say that to the wife. No, he wouldn't notice.

Exactly. He'd be like, good one. Now's quick. She's quick. She's quick. I'm good. My daily struggles right there. She's quick.

So what do you guys do when you're, okay, wait, first, how long have you been together? Not very, very long. No, not long. Seven months. Okay, so long enough to know what your like little things are. Six months. Six months. I don't know what month it even is right now.

June? It's almost June. So it'll be six months. Six months. So what's the hardest part about when you are working together? Or how do you resolve it? See, the big thing for us and you get into it is just that our communication, I was just telling Mike about this or father is that it's just so open and so direct so that like

when we have issues or we're annoyed, we don't. hide it. We don't let it bubble up. We're just like, I'm annoyed right now. Let's address it. Let's get to the bottom of it. This is what's happening. The only problem is I get a little defensive and feel insulted where you can take any sort of criticism and you're totally fine. And he'll like, I'll be like, this is bothering me. He goes, okay, I will be cognizant of that and change. And then he does. That makes you want to punch him more. I want to do it. I wanted the fireworks. I know. Thanks. Like last night, last night was one of our biggest fights because he spilled wine on my puzzle that I've been working on.

You would have think the world turned up. Oh, and also, you puzzle? I want to puzzle with you then. Okay, let's puzzle. Because he doesn't like to puzzle. I love it. I'll sit there until, I'll sit there all night long and until it's done. I ruined my whole sleep because my back and neck hurt from just like being hunched over doing my puzzle.

We can have drinks while they puzzle. I was going to say, maybe you and I can go and hang out. Yeah, exactly. You guys can go network. We'll network. We'll network. I'm in, salt. But yeah, he spilled wine.

And you're very clumsy. You will admit that. I'm not clumsy. What? In seventh grade, I won Mr. Smooth. Give me a break. I think that was for a different reason. Do you have an award?

Yeah. Wow. I'm a big reaction guy, and she's quick, so I wanted to see your reaction. She didn't give me one. No, I'm giving you when it's just a facial expression that nobody else can see. Because you would remember that you won Mr. Smooth in the seventh grade. Guys remember everything they win. Yes, it's so true.

And girls remember every argument you've ever had. Girls remember everything. Everything. Like, I remember all of it. There are very few things. things that I don't remember and we have to we're built that way like yeah you know what this is not a therapy session yes it is but I'm gonna say that like that's one of my biggest frustrations is that there's so much to remember constantly I even have to remember the things that he I put in

his calendar for him I'll put it in his calendar all he has to do is open the calendar I'll have to remind you to open the calendar like if you're a big calendar guy well Jason's a big calendar guy if you open your calendar right now it probably says repurpose again We have a wedding coming up. No, if I open my calendar right now, it says not linked to Google. Oh. That's how bad it is. He's changed his phone and hasn't linked his calendar to his new phone.

Oh. And that's... But I do. You know what? It's exciting because I open my calendar every morning and there's nothing in it. And I'm like, yeah, it's a great day. And then it starts with, hey, Dave, don't forget about this. Don't forget about that interview.

Do you remember that we have to, like, meet for... He's like, no. What did that happen? I'm like, it's in the freaking calendar. Yeah, but we're married. We're partners. Which means what? That I'm your secretary as well as being the wife and the mother of your children and the boss lady?

Yeah, get it, girl. Tell them. Can I say yes to them? Is that wrong? Sounds like you need to network. That's what I'm going to start calling a cocktail. I'm going to go for a network. Networking on a call.

That's, hey, why do you think I built my whole podcast around wine? It's me working. Yeah, no, it's a great idea. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I think on that note, I can talk about how my wine label is coming out this month, which I'm really excited about. Yeah. So I'll send you guys bottles. Yeah. Yes. Oh my gosh. Are you having a party? Yeah, but it's in L.A. Will you be there? When is it? Maybe I will. I don't know. I don't know. Okay, let me know. That's exciting. You guys kind of have a lot going on. How do you do that? Like, you just sign up for like I want to own wine company and I say, hey, I have 1.7 million followers on Instagram.

Do it. No, I'm just kidding. Well, I mean, but seriously. You know. But seriously. You have a brand and you should use that. Well, I've always, I think just for the last four years, people have known that I like my wine. And so that's why I started off the vine, did the whole wine thing around the podcast, and then everyone has been like,

when are you going to have your own wine label? And I've been looking into it and doing research and working on it for a really long time, probably two years. And just in the last year, I've really buckled down and then everything's finally coming together. So what makes it different? Or what is it?

Like, I'm very big, because I have a scrunchy line too, And I'm just very big on the branding of everything. I think people like to drink and have nice things. Like if it looks nice. And that's how I get my wine. I don't know about you guys. But I also obviously wanted it to taste good. And so we did.

I care less about that, though. Isn't that interesting? But I'm not a wine connoisseur. So like when I go in, I'm like, oh, that's pretty. Yeah. Or that's funny. Or that's whatever it is. Yeah.

And so, yeah, it's called spade and sparrows. And it's a rosé, a pino grillo, and a cabs. Sav and it's just honestly I wanted it to just kind of be like something that represented me like bold and sassy and it's just it's really good wine we tasted a lot of wines before we narrowed it down to this and so I don't know if it's actually that good or I was just drunk so when I test I got to taste all the different bottles they had and I went right into like corporate bank or business mode like where is the supplier what's the cost what are the margins what's the price point the first thing I took away is that the actual cost of the wine

line aligns with the quality and it's much greater than the price point because your demographic has a lower willing to purchase price point. So actually I think the quality compared to price is in a good spot. I got to take him with me on all my interviews. You're like, so tell us about your wine. I'm like, it's good. Yeah. It's good. The label is pretty and I got drunk. The label's pretty and I get drunk of it. It's really fun. It's amazing. So if your wine tastes amazing, Yes. And you have 1.7 million followers. Yes.

If I get a wine deal. Yeah. I have 20,000 followers. Okay. So what would my wine be? And he's not on Instagram. Yeah. What would it be like?

Would it just be a lot of tannins and just full of tannets? Yeah. It might just be water. Dave's headache. Oh. We'll do the mad dogs of wine. I mean, that doesn't sound very appealing. That doesn't sound very appealing.

It's all about the volume. Headache in a bottle, nah. Paper bag it. on that one my party would be very different i am he doesn't why would you say that because you're i posted the other day you posted on mother's day but you can't post on mothers day once a year and call that on instagram oh but that was very sweet that you did post him wait do you like that he's on not on instagram well i mean from a business standpoint i don't right um because a lot of the the deals that we do you know as you know like i don't like muddling out my feed

at the checklist here's the business standpoint i don't want him to do anything I mean, you have, like, I take the brunt of, like, the post. And I love that for, on one hand. But on the other, like, I try to keep it real. And I don't want the feed to be, you know. Just, like, aesthetically teasing. Yeah, too inauthentic. And so, like, sometimes, and sometimes it would be nice to play off of him because he's really funny.

Yeah. And when he posts something, it's freaking hilarious. And so, like, I want to play off of that. Wait, well, let's tell everybody that's listening to go follow you on Instagram. There you go. And then you have, you have to be funny. What is my Instagram? Yeah, what's your Instagram?

The Dave Wilson official. Dave Wilson, yeah, Dave Wilson official. The Dave. I'm not sure. You are crazy. But I have it in my phone. I'm sorry. You don't run his social media too.

Dave Wilson official. Dave Wilson official. Let me pull up my calendar. Yeah. Oh, my God. Nothing. Is that link to your Gmail? Yeah, exactly.

And what's your Instagram handle again? All things, Courtney Wilson. Courtney with the K though. And do you guys have one for your show? And we have Courtney and Dave. Courtney and Dave. Yeah, Courtney and Dave. And you run all those?

I run those. I'm actually, it's getting harder. Like, again, I try to respond to everybody personally, especially Facebook and Instagram, but it's getting harder. I actually also have something coming out later on this fall under the Cort and Co brand. So we have, like, linens and pillows and accessories, and I'm working on a furniture line right now. Wait, what, I love that stuff.

I know. I'll buy everything. I know. It's going to be like T.J. Max and Marshalls and Homes and all those places. So I'm excited. As you know, it's a full-time job to, you know, when it was just social media, it was fine, but social media and design and real estate and mom, and I was homeschooling for a bet. So it's just like kind of.

I was just going to say, I heard you're homeschooling, too, like, how do you even, I mean, and you look so well rested? I do see. I actually, I sleep really well. When I talk to other people and they're like, I don't, you know, I'm an insomniac. I've had, you know, two handfuls of days in my entire life where I couldn't sleep. Oh, okay, that's so lucky. That makes a big difference.

Yeah. That's incredible. You need that. That's incredible. So, you know, even if I go to bed at 11 and wake up at 6, I'm still getting, you know, seven hours of sleep. And it's a good sleep. And it's a good sleep. Oh, okay.

So, but yeah, I was homeschooling the kids, which is crazy. And we were doing that while filming. So, like, I would, we had a nanny at the time that lived in our guest house so that we could, I could, I could work all morning with the kids until noon. And then she could come in and watch them do their projects and just be a person in the house while I filmed. Yeah. And so that was awesome. But now the boys are back in school, and Lennox is, we hired a full-time teacher. Turns out mothers and daughters.

Oh, yes. It's not as easy to homeschool, at least not for us. I can't imagine. And so that I didn't, you know, bury her in our backyard. And she didn't, you know. Barry you in the backyard. We decided this year to hire a full-time teacher. It's been like, seriously.

And that's probably good for your relationship, too. So much better. My mom tried to choreograph one dance for me and my dance. because my mom was a professional ballerina and dancer and so she tried to choreograph one dance for me and I didn't want to speak to her for the rest of my life I know it's there's something about it yeah it's the mother-daughter thing it's yeah she actually

she said some of the cruelest things that she's ever said to me as a kid as a person when we were homeschooling her and all that's kind of gone out of window so that's thank God now she says them to me but dance could take it we do nothing Can I ask you a quick personal question? So what makes you, like, so you went from homeschooling to hiring a full-time teacher to then, I mean, obviously the other options are private school or public school.

So, like, what's the thought process as a parent when you're thinking about those things? Oh, my gosh. No, that's a Courtney question. Yeah. You didn't even know why I had kids in school. That's a beauty. I just drink wine. I wake up, coffee, wine.

Courtney takes care of me. I see plenty of double dates in our future. I'm sold inside me up. You guys are my favorite of people I think I've ever talked to. I'm Ozzy. She's sharing. I love that. I love that.

You send us the Gmail in Bible except. Yeah. When you have kids, I'm your person. Yes. Okay? So, because it is, there's a whole lot of stuff. And I will say this, and I'll probably get a bunch of messages about this. I'm going to say it anyway.

Living in the South is also another layer of stuff. Because a lot of the private schools are all white here. unfortunately. And our daughter is black. And we also don't want that for our own kids. I mean, our biological kids either. We just talked about this. And so diversity is a really big thing for us. And that doesn't exist as much here. Having grown up in Canada, I felt like it was it was more diverse than it is here. So that came into play, which is why we opted to homeschool instead of, because the homeschooling network in Nashville is insanity. Our kids every Friday would go to the homeschooling or the community center with all the other homeschoolers

and there were hundreds of kids. Hundreds, like hundreds in our own neighborhood. They actually went to a homeschooling school on Wednesdays where it was a full-on school of homeschoolers where they learned science and like an astrophysicist at Vandy was one of the parents and taught science and like all the professors at Vandy that were parents would teach classes.

It was insane. So Nashville, when we say this, I think a lot of Canadians and even people in other country, they hear homeschooling and they think like, oh, like, I mean, do you live in like, Like, are you a pilgrim? Sure. Yeah. Like, they really, they do.

Social. Right. People just don't have the knowledge. They don't have the knowledge. It's a huge thing here. Right. And because the school schooling system is messed up in Nashville. And I will be the first of a thousand people that I know that would say that.

Yeah. So that's why. But there are a couple of schools doing it really, really, really well. Gotcha. But then it's a lottery to get into some schools. Yeah. So then what do you do? So we, anyway, the boys were extremely happy where they are.

They're both in very diverse. schools, which is important academically. It's awesome. And then Lennox, for the time being, because she has some other stuff that we're working through, from an educational standpoint, she has a full-time teacher. So I think it's not one-size-fits-all here. And that's what's really cool. And there are a lot

of really good private schools. Wow. That's so good to know. I'd like to add also, you didn't mention this because you probably just want to keep it quiet, but I teach them law. Oh, okay. Yeah. Can you give us a lesson? Okay, one second. I went away on

press to her, and Dave posted the one time that year on Instagram, a picture of the kids watching Law and Order, saying that he was teaching them law. That does not count. Neither does criminal minds, which was the next thing that you let them watch. I love criminal minds. I love criminal minds, too.

And so do my kids now. Our 8-year-old daughter and our, you know, 10-year-old son and our 12-year-old son, and our 12-year-old set at the time, no, that is not count. Don't, don't... Yes. Lennox asked me the other day if Dexter is still on TV. Did you let her watch Dexter? Oh, boy.

No. Dave, he's like burying bodies. You cannot do that. But he's doing it for a great reason. It's his intention. He's not killing good, he's not killing bad people. Sorry, good people. He's going to bad ones.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Tough life lessons we need to live. He's young. Yeah. I love that. You guys sound like fun parents. Fun friends.

Fun parents. We were talking actually before the podcast that we took our kids to a lady boy show in Thailand on Christmas Eve. I think that makes us parents of the year. I agree. Also probably. In some market. Small felony.

But yeah. But yeah, it's fine. Kids are stronger. Oh, right. It's strong. Well, in our defense, it was Vegas style. It wasn't like a strip club. It was a Vegas style show with like costume.

You know what? They're going to be so well educated with all of the stuff that you're doing for them. Images I have my head of what a Vegas show style lady boy. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. thoughts rolling through all right we're going to take a quick break jason you're going to be really into this one are you ready let's hear it honey roasted flavored almonds oh saracha flavored almonds love a good spice wasabi and soy sauce flavored almonds do i have your attention you have my attention

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Are you guys filming still? So we just wrapped season four of Masters of Flip, and we are starting a new show. And the working title is called Make Your Move. Okay. But I don't know if that's going to stick. Okay. And I'm not actually sure that I like the title yet, to be honest. Do you?

Yeah, hit me. I was like, oh, good one. I'm not sure. And so what's the... So we're going to be flipping other people's houses. So we're going to like, you know, when they take on sort of a fixer-upper or something that needs to be completely renowed, we are going to come in and take over that project. so they really don't have a whole lot of say.

Now, is this for people who are a little less fortunate, or could you come and do my house? No, no, anything goes. Could you do like a reality TV? You know what? Washed up star. We're actually filming Washed up star, 1.7 million. Come on, I'm playing a pity party for you.

She was talking about us. Washed up stars, renovate our homes. Once had a record deal, but lost them. We like to call ourselves Z-listers. Yeah, I'm right down at the bottom of the alphabet. We'll be Z-listers with you. Okay. Perfect.

We'll start our own podcast with Z-listers. We're filming in, starting in September. We're going to be filming in Canada for the summer, half the season. Awesome. Here in Nashville, starting in September. So we're going to be finding five homeowners. Okay. I wouldn't call them lucky homeowners.

Okay. I'll just call them homeowners. So you just get to come in and take over. We come in. And, I mean, they'll have some. We'll get a feel for what they love. Yeah. But then we'll do what we love

Yes And by we I mean Courtney will And I'll be in the green room See Caitlin's parents are like nodding Because they watch the show They're like yes That's amazing

Dave will have no say Well I was I was going through questions From people on Twitter And they are so funny I mean you I actually was surprised I always get people like

I'll get a couple of questions People are just pouring in for you guys Yeah yeah People really love you And I think they love your dynamic And the relationship on top of everything. Are you sure it's us?

Yes. Chip and Joanna. He's like, what are your next podcast? I love her brown, their long brown hair. Wrong, come on. Next one.

That's funny. And so I always do this segment on my podcast where we confess. Anything you want to get off your chest to us where you feel like. How long is this show? You know what? As long as you've got, I will take any sort of confession and we wash away your sins with my wine and whatever you feel like you need to. Any confession. Do you have one?

They're good ones. Like you got to tell us what I want to say. That's the best kind. I'll tell you, the one I told was about when I faked myself as a stripper to beat a line into a strip club. And then we got pulled on stage and had to do a more strip routine with the boys. So we go there with confessions. Caitlin goes.

And that's, I'll say, that's PG-rated to some confession. So open up, make it a good one. Oh, gosh. I'm like a bit of a goody two shoes. I need to come up with like a... Well, you don't have to go there for you all. You've probably done something horrible in your life you want to admit to. Anything.

Yeah. I mean, there's a hint with the lady boy show. Well, that's not a confession. It's not like I was like backstage with the lady boys. Yeah. It's not like your shame. It would have been a great history story. Come on, I'm sure.

Yeah, I feel like Dave has a good confession. like Dave has probably a list like a whole you know maybe preferably one that Courtney doesn't know about so we can oh why didn't you guys give me this question before well I would have come back I would have like yeah we can come we can come back to this and okay we'll come back to this because that's all I'm going to think about right now that's on my podcast team they're supposed to prep you for that yeah so we'll come back to have all the shows real quick have they all been real estate focus because I know you said that you had mentioned that you started to write a script for a show and then you pitched it when you wrote this script for the show was that because it sounded like you flipped

your first real estate deal after that no we had already flipped a house before um well maybe maybe we'd actually actually you know what i think you're right i think we actually probably the very first um treatment that i wrote we had just had jet so we actually hadn't flipped a house yet we were about to flip we had just flipped the house that it's flooded that's okay so yeah it's it's it's been like a long journey what's the oh you have a confession Sorry, no, go ahead. Go for it. So I'll real estate.

No, we got the answer. Let's go. Oh, geez, I'm scared. Okay, should I video this? No, no, no, no. Refill your wine. Yeah, would you like to more wine? Go with your confession.

Oh, no, I'm good with wine. Are you sure? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, but bring it on. Hand me your cup and confess to me. That's amazing. I'm scared. I paid for 24-hour parking, so.

Get your $10 worth. Let's take a quick nap in there. Okay. Call it a day. Are you good, Courtney? I'm good, thank you. I'm a cheap date, so I have to drive home. Okay, perfect.

Really? Yeah, because we took two cars because we're not really married. It's all for TV. It's all for TV. Ratings. That explains so much to me right now. It's in your calendar. You didn't see it?

What calendar? Okay, so here's my confession. Okay, go. And it's going to haunt me for a bit. Okay. Later, when you guys are gone and back in your cozy. little bed with your pillows. And you're 11 a.m. wake-up call.

Yeah. Yeah. So I took my son to Boston. Courtney had this great idea for Christmas presents. Instead of gifts, we would take each kid on a trip, like one-on-one. I love that. Yeah, it's a beautiful idea. That is beautiful.

Yeah, depending on the kid. And so Courtney took Lennox, our daughter. To Texas, took Jet to New York City. Yeah, and my role was to take my son Sully to Boston. Okay. And so Dave Wilson? We travel very differently. So, and this is why the boys, not so much Lennox, but the boys love traveling with me because there's really no rules.

We live like college kids. Okay. The room's trashed. There really are no rules. Okay. Not to get grammatically correct. Yeah, no. Fine example of how it is to travel with Courtney.

So anyways. Before we're leaving for Boston, Courtney has a list of things we should see. Museums, architecture that would be beautiful to take pictures out. Did you lose that list? No, didn't lose it. It's right up here. And so, Sully and I, we get to Boston, and we know that mom's going to want pictures of us. So we spent a couple hours going around to every monument.

You did not! Those pictures you did not go in? All fake. Check the credit card receipts. There's no entry into any museum or monument. That's amazing. She wanted, like, take the subway. Got to take the subway.

So we took the subway and got lost, made a mistake, and ended up right back where we started within 10 minutes. But then we had all these pictures banked, and we would slowly send them to her. Are you kidding me? Wow. So he didn't go to any of the monuments or any of the museums when you were there? Yeah, you can Google them. Do you get some of my God?

Wow, that is a great confession. Got a good confession? That's amazing. Okay. So I got a question. Yeah. So what did you do with all the rest of the time? Okay, so.

Part two of the confession. Part two. We had a great hotel. Which Courtney book. Thank you. Thank you, Courtney. I love of my life. Right downtown.

And also, on the list of things we had to do is eat authentic, you know, food from Boston. Yeah. Well, we were in, we were in Little China. And so all we ate is Chinese food. What? Oh, it's amazing. You didn't get the chatter. And then Courtney's one request was, you know, Sally needs new shoes.

I did not say it like that. You did? I did not say it. Well, you didn't check the head, but that was me. First of the hips. She said, Dave, Sally needs new shit. And so we're in bed I get the text

I'm like Sally we've got to get shoes for you He's like okay We're just like Yeah So we finished our Our first movie of the morning Yeah We leave

You went all the way to Boston And you watched movies in your hotel room Oh this is great This is a great movie It was a great hotel Yeah Oh my god We watched every diehard

Oh my god That's father father son bonding I failed you I failed you Then he rented TED movies. Oh, that's great. I mean, that's... Oh, he's 12.

He's fine. And it's Boston-related. I know. Yeah, exactly. Mark Wahlberg. Yeah, it's the whole Boston. So we walk out of our hotel room and we're on a mission. I'm thinking this is going to be like a two-hour commitment to find them all.

We walk down our street, maybe a block and a half. Pay less. Perfect. Walk in. Second floor. We were out of there like a minute and a half. And those shoes lasted about a minute and a half. And he told him how to be thrifty.

It was great. 50 bucks. We were back in our room watching Ted too. And I'm not allowed to bring this up with Sully, I suppose. No, no, you got to keep it. No, don't break our secrets. That was a bonding experience. Here's another secret.

That explains why this year when we were going to do it again, he was like, can I go with dad? I was like, well, you know what dad lost? That's exactly why. He didn't want to go with me this year. No. That's amazing. This is amazing. We're tethered now.

Now, when he's able to drink and you go. back to Chinatown for your next Boston trip those restaurants what they'll do is the bars close at like one in Boston but you go for late Chinese food and they'll fill up... Oh it's the fake tea. They'll fill up the tea. They'll fill up the tea with the beer. Oh, they do? Yeah, special tea. It's amazing. Yeah. So next trip, put it on

the studio. Next trip. He's 13, Jason. No, I said when he's legal to drink. I said when he's legal to drink. I said when he's legal to drink. I said when he's legal to drink. Roll the clip. Roll the clip. Oh my gosh. You guys. You guys. are amazing i think we need to play a quick game okay wait i have a question this has been on my mind this whole time what is the most important room in a house to you bathroom really the kitchen we'll wait from from like a buyer's perspective sorry i'm seeing efficiency what's the most

important room in the kitchen the kitchen okay nobody wants to take on the kitchen renovation is the thing you need every day what i'm about so if you can get do the kitchen in fact i say this When we speak, I tell this story first because our friends, Julie and Tim, if they're ever listening, they were in Franklin, or they live in Franklin, they asked me to list their house. I went out, I'm like, I'm going to use arbitrary numbers because there was about a $50,000 difference, but I was like, okay, we can list your house for, you know, 380 and if you don't do your kitchen. Because they bought the house five years previous to that, planned to do, hated the kitchen, wanted to do it, but could never agree on what to do. And by the time, you know, you knew it, it was time to, they had two kids and it was ready to, they were ready to make. move. So I said, if you do your kitchen, we'll ask 430. And they were like, so if you spend 20, 25 to do the kitchen, we'll ask $50,000 more. They're like, that's a no-brainer. Let's do it. And they

ended up getting overless price for their house. So the first thing they did when they bought their next house was did the kitchen before they even moved in. They did the kitchen because the thing is is people don't enjoy it. Like if you can do the renovations now and then enjoy it and sell it, do it right. So that the buyer still loves it, but you get to enjoy it. And so many people they take me through their houses and they tell me all the stuff that they didn't get to that they will do now in order to make money so it's kind of weird so yeah do your kitchen i'm doing it you're doing it doing it right yeah doing it doing it well okay that's so good to know because that's what i thought but i just wanted to hear it from a professional i'd also focus in the bathroom

okay okay you can eat in the bathroom oh you're good yeah you can do everything in the bathroom okay No, we should ignore that. Everything in the bathroom. I mean, I like the idea. Okay, this is a little couples quiz, which I'm sure you guys will pass. Maybe we should do it too and see. You'd be surprised. Oh, boy.

How many years have you been together? 21, 21. 240. Yeah, we're in dog years. You guys need a podcast. Okay, so we'll do it too. Don't look at the questions. Okay.

Okay, what is Courtney's favorite food? Oh, my God. I got this. Oh, my God. Wait, wait a minute. You don't have a favorite food. I would say chips. Oh, close.

French fries. Okay. Chips can be French fries. I went, ding, ding, that's good. What's my favorite food? Sushi. Yeah. Got it.

Oh, I love sushi. Me too. It's my favorite. You don't even have a favorite food. I know you don't. You wouldn't be able to tell me your favorite food. I would say pizza. You're right.

But what is it? No, the question is, what is my favorite food? Yeah. I would say pizza or sushi. If I have to pick one, pizza. Pizza. Okay. I would say yours is like Italian, something Italian, like pasta, pasta.

Yeah. What are you Americans say? Chicken wings. Oh, I actually knew that. Oh, so good. I take mine back. He's from Buffalo. They have to, if your favorite food isn't chicken wings, you're not from Buffalo.

I'm a vegetarian, so don't you eat? Me too. Really? Well, I eat fish, too. Pescatarian. I'm trying to eat less fish this year, but I'm still eating it, like, at least once a week. I saw something really, this is kind of sad, but also funny on Ellen, where it was like a meme, and she said, like, people are, everyone's going strawless. They're like, oh, save the water and save the fish, but then we're all still eating fish.

I know. So you don't use a straw, but you eat the fish. Yeah. That is funny. We'll go for me in potatoes. We can double Dave. Yes, we can. Yes, we can.

Okay. What color is Dave's toothbrush? It's white and blue. It's electric. Yours is just white and electric. Yep. She knows that because she bought that for it. Yeah, I bought it. We have the same.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, okay. You don't share the same toothbrush. Oh, yeah, we do. What? He gets mad at me because I never bring mine on trips. I was just using this. I will divorce him if he ever uses my toothbrush.

We don't share it, but when she forgets it, she uses it. I purposely forget it. So we only bring one. Then I have to put it under hot water for like an hour. That's what I do. I can't. And he's like, we kiss. We make out.

We do all these things together and you won't share a toothbrush. I can't deal. I can't deal. I have to, I have to like throw, put, run it under hot water. Oh, do you want to run the relationship thing again? Yeah, confession. Oh my gosh. If you say that, I swear, Dave, there are very few things that you can say.

So if you're going to say it, you're going to have to like live with the consequences. Listen, I thought if, I thought to myself, I said self, if you ever have to get a divorce, the best way to do it is tell her you're gay. Okay. Because then I'm out, right? You can't get mad at that. Is this your confession? No, no, this is your confession. I have forgotten my toothbrush on road trips, and I've used it.

Oh my God, Dave, I swear to you. And you've used her toothbrush? Dave, that is a huge deal for me. You cannot use my... I'm putting it in a case. If I have to lock the damn case, I'm going to lock the damn case. Do not use my teeth. You should always travel with a backup.

I did run under hot water after. No, you didn't. No, I didn't. Well, this leads me into my next romantic question. Where'd you guys first kiss? On the couch. On a filthy couch. Yeah, on a farm.

Oh, so romantic. Yeah, we were staying at the songwriter's house. I don't want to name him in case he doesn't want to be named. But he's also Canadian. Derek Kutian. He's written a lot of bit, a bunch of hits, and he would love it. He has written a bunch of hits. And he's awesome.

And we were staying at, well, actually, Margaret, his wife, he and Margaret's house. And that's where we kiss. And I kissed you first. And then after, I was like, why didn't you kiss me? because he's eight years older than me, and he's like, because I felt like a pedophile. And you're like, he's not gay, yes. I don't use those words. It was something like that.

It was uncomfortable, but a pedophile uncomfortable. Yeah, you were just being a gentleman. He was being a gentleman. Because I was 19, or I was actually 18, and yeah. Where was our first kiss? Yeah, where was your first kiss? Why am I blanking? Let's turn this over to you guys, please.

Come on. I actually am blanking. Denver. You don't know where your first kiss was. Denver? Oh, yeah. Were you guys high? It's so high, I don't remember.

That's why. I actually, oh, yeah, that was cute. Okay, I feel weird when my dad's behind me time on my first cast. We're cute. Where was your guys' first date? Ours was also 10. Oh, this is a good question. I'm glad I asked.

Okay. I'll let you take this one to start. Okay. So I know. our first date was at this place that doesn't exist anymore in Rivergate because we were staying out in this farm and you had to drive into Rivergate

and it was called like Ruby's Cafeteria or something and it was on Valentine's Day in 2009 and he says that's not where it was but I know that it was I know that it was in my calendar We have receipts here I mean let's go back to that pictures receipts

Go ahead Okay well Oh, boy. Our first date, and I know this for a fact. Oh, God. It was at the Rivergate Mall. Okay. We went to Claire's boutique and bought something.

Oh, Claire's. That's where I get my nose rings. Yeah. Yeah. And we did, we just walked around the mall, but we did not eat at that restaurant. We did eat at that restaurant. We did not. It was Valentine's Day, and I was driving into the airport after.

So we did. We didn't. Okay. We didn't have a first date. Okay. There we go. Okay. Yes.

Yeah. It was the mall. Our first day was in the couch. It was Clare's. Let's bring it back to Clare's. Yeah. You guys should get like a Clare's sponsorship, like that would be amazing. He actually, as a joke, because we had no money.

I was 18, just almost turned 19. I mean, we were here struggling, trying to make ends meet, trying to follow our dreams. And as a joke one day, he bought pearls at the dollar store and like these big, fat, cheap kids pearls at the dollar store. Yeah, and he had me enwrapping. And he was like, I can't give you anything, but, like, one day I'll give you real pearls. It's really sweet. And I still have them. Aww.

That's cute. Do you want the real pearls now? No, I'm not really pearls now. That's the next wedding gift. Yeah. And they kill fish, you know what I mean? Do they? Is that a thing?

And the oysters. Whatever pearls are in. Oh, yeah, I guess. Right. We're back at Jessica Simpson with the tuna chicken. Oh, boy. I don't know. You know what?

Full circle. Edit that part out. Edit that part out. Yep. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. if it gets edited it out. Okay, last one is

what are each other's biggest pet peeves? Okay, so mine is when you go to a restaurant or anywhere and they, you ask for water, any drink and they hold it from the top and they hand it to you. Oh, yeah, that is gross. I can't stand it and immediately, like, I'm like basically everything that you have ever touched, everything you've ever touched between, like the last time

when you wash your hands and now is on my glass and it's about to go in my mouth. I've thought about that, because I worked in a restaurant for so long and we were always taught and I taught people to not do that. Yes. Is this question pet peeve in general

or in relationship? Whatever you want. What's yours, Jason? Yeah. My biggest pet peeve? Yeah. Mine's when people have bad manners. You know, yours is chewing noises.

Oh, that is a bad one. A lot of people have that. Mesophonia. What is it called? It's not even misophonia. Misophonia is like chewing and drinking noises, but mine's just loud noises in general. Like, even when my mom goes up the stairs,

her knees crack, I get annoyed. See, I'm kind of half-deaf. I think living in a studio for my entire life with music, like... Oh, yeah, that'll do it. I can't hear anything anymore. Well, I wish I had that problem. Yeah. I think nothing fires me up more when someone's trying to, like, take advantage of someone

else. So, like, when someone, like, take advantage of the week or whatever it is, if it's business, if it's friendships, it literally makes my turn into a different human. Yeah. And I go into, like, a tag. I would say, I would put that knot in a pet peeve level. Yeah, my God. Yeah, like that's beyond a pepave.

That is beyond a pet peeve. You know, human kindness and all that stuff. Like, that's like a big thing. Pepiiva's like static. Like static is my... Static. I hate static. I don't like static either.

I don't like when people... So it's hard because now everything's... People do everything from their phone and, you know, series texting for you, voice text, but bad, really bad grammar, like using the wrong two and there. It kind of drives me crazy, but I'm trying to get better at it because then I realized that, okay, that person just didn't live. learn it properly or they should have but they don't and then do you call somebody out that's kind of you know an ass move to call somebody out on their grammar i did it today with dave but

he's my husband yeah you're allowed to call it and i do that with my kids because i don't want them but then i get that's what you know that's what partners are full that's true that's true and then how do people know they have to call people out for them to know okay so do you have do you have one Caitlin? Oh, yeah, you have one. Manors, sound, static. Static. Static. Static.

Okay, well, my pet peeve is going to cause me a great amount of... Well, then don't. Pick a different... Oh, boy, here we go. I'm just saying. I know where you're going on. Jeez, you already have a late reveal, but the toothbrush, I can't take any more. Okay, well, I washed it with hot water.

Okay. Well, you didn't. You said you didn't. Forgive. Forgive. Forgive. Okay, so my pet peeve is, um, you know, voice texting and voice email.

Oh, we saw that. My wife goes. I saw you. Oh, that's so funny. I do it from the car all day long. You'll be walking. It's so convenient, though. It'll be walking in the park, and it's just like, Jason, comma.

I'm going to be at the store later, comma. Period. Sorry, period. And then do you need no question mark? Oh, damn it. Okay. Hey, Jason. comma.

I know. I just saved you time to type it. Except that I am really fast, and I can do a lot of business now gets done, and it's weird to not use commas and periods when you're, like, sending a really, really long line. I know. Well, it's my pet peeve, not yours. So what I'd say is eventually you'll have a little microchip in your head. And then you can just, like, think it, and it'll go out.

I've heard that that's actually not sweet. That's Dave, comma, be careful what you say from this point forward, period. You have to live with me, exclamation point. Send. Send. Response. I don't check my text or emails ever, so I won't get this. Period.

You guys are my favorite people ever. That's amazing. I don't even want this podcast. I'm in so much trouble, though. I have no idea how much trouble I'm in it. Hey, you got 24-hour parking. Let's just stay here for a while. I'm going to be drinking in the car.

It's called networking, Dave. Okay. We're going to get to a few questions just because we don't have much time, and I could talk to you guys all day. Carrie S wants you guys to sing the Demo Day song. You know, when people ask us to sing these things, we don't remember. We do it on the fly.

So, like, when we're going through houses, I don't even, I wouldn't even. Demo Day song. I guess we sang on a song. That's Carrie, if she would send us a video for singing it, so we know. Yeah. Okay.

Oh. Yeah. Tell her, I'm sorry. We sing a lot when we're going through houses, and then people will sing it back to us, and we're like, oh, my gosh. That's the first time of. Yeah, like, apparently we sang in a church, like going, flip this church.

And people sing that to us all the time. I'm like, I don't remember. That's so funny. Oh, well, you make an impact. Freestyle. Here's one. Kelly says, how does she handle him exceeding the budget on every project? Oh, Kelly.

Kelly, no. Not now. Not now, Kelly. A can of worms open everywhere. Not now, Kelly. That's what I mean. Kelly. So interesting that you asked that.

Let me grab my wine, period, explanation. Point, parenthesis, deep breath, and parentheses. End of sentence. No, it is a point of contention for us because he is over, he has only not been over budget, or better said, he's only been on budget ever once in 125 houses. And so guess what happened this summer? Tell everybody what happened this summer. Come on.

Go ahead. Come on. Go ahead. Come on, little buddy. You can do it. Come on. Courtney has taken over. I have taken over all the budgeting for the houses we're doing off camera to show him how to actually create a nice little spreadsheet that we can stick to.

This is so funny because we all are so similar in very different ways. Yes. I live by the rule of wing it. Me too. Yes, you guys are very similar. I do too. I like wine and I like wing in it. I'm a little bit more structured.

I'm a little bit more structured. analytical, I think dad is there for us to learn from. I'm a detailed guy, I'm a planner, I'm the budget guy, yeah. But see, it wouldn't work like if there were two people the same in a relationship. I don't think it works. No, because we would kill each other. Yeah, exactly. I would, I could not date a Caitlin.

Yeah. No. I just couldn't. No, I find it hard to believe you can. See, if we're being honest here. Okay, Laura Ellen wants to know what's your favorite joke. Oh. favorite jokes. I usually tell jokes on the podcast, so we do you? Yeah. I don't know any jokes.

My favorite jokes are the jokes that my kids tell, which are really, like, they take, and I don't know if I can even remember them, but they tell mama jokes all the time. Okay. And they are hilarious when they're coming out of a 10-year-old girl. You know, I don't, I know that when they say them, it takes me a second to go, oh my gosh, like, you should be saying that, but then it's so funny. Like, my mom is so fat. This comes from Mike Bristow. He says, uh, edit that. out please? No, don't. Give him credit. All my listeners will love it. So is Pfizer, and if I tell it wrong, let me know, but Pfizer and Pepsi come up with an idea for a drink. Am I thought on it so far? Okay. This is also a terrible way to tell Joe. They're in the board meeting, and they say, at this all out. They say, we need a good soft drink. And Pfizer says, no, we're going to

make it real strong. We're making the stiffish drink we can get. No, that's, you definitely Butchered it. Can we get Mike on the mic on the mic? Yeah, Dad, can you just tell the joke quickly? Come up to my mic. Lennox told me a joke saying, your mom is so fat, even Dora can't explore her. Or what is it?

Or Dora can't explore her. That's funny. That was Lenny's. See, the ending was destroyed. Yeah, sorry. Okay, I destroyed one. Now, your dad, it's your turn. Here comes the master.

You got to get right up to the mic. It was Pfizer chemical or Pfizer pharmaceuticals and Pepsi got together and formed this drink where you were able to pour yourself a stiff one. is how it all came down. See, way more to the point. And you cannot relate this as a soft drink. Way better. Myristo.

They got that comedic, Gene. That's so funny. You were like, now tell me if I'm doing this wrong. I'm not a joke at me. It's a hard corner. He's like, you know, what's the Viagra one? It's the Viagra. So tell me if I'm doing, so there's this.

I was trying to get him in the game. Yeah, okay. That was a good play. Good play. Okay. You got it. Nice got me. Okay.

Two more questions. Okay. Paige wants to know. Do you watch other shows about flipping houses or do you just chill out when you're done work and watch Game of Thrones? P.S. if you did, what do you think of the finale? But I don't want to know because I'm on season two.

Okay. I haven't started Game of Thrones. And it's on my list of things to start. I watched half of the first episode and it was so gory. I stopped and then realized I obviously am missing out on something. I was the same way. It was a lot in season one. So I need to start.

But right now I'm on other stuff. What do we watch? We do not, I would watch more householding shows than Dave. Dave has literally not seen most of our own episodes. So I watch them all before they go to air. Like I can actually give edits and feedback before it gets finalized. How is it? Dave has only sees it if it comes on TV.

And even when it does, it's really hard to get them to watch it. Yeah. That's exactly how you are. I don't like watching. I don't like listening. I will get Jason to listen and stuff because, yeah. Yeah. Okay, Kristen Kamer.

What's the biggest misconception people have about flipping homes? I'd assume a lot of people think it's quick and easy money. I think that's it. Remember, they're watching it on TV, so they think everything's flipped in 30 or 60 minutes. Totally. And, I mean, they really don't think that, but that's how they see the episode go down. So I give you an example. Right now, we're doing a different show or flipping other people's houses, but

while we're doing that, Dave and are flipping three houses this summer in Nashville. We're not even going to be here. But we've started them, and every other day I'm going to the houses and doing behind the scenes of the process. And I think people are really enjoying it, but the one feedback comment or something that keeps coming back to me is that, oh, my gosh, it's crazy to see how long everything's taking, like, oh, you've been demoing for four or five days. And they like it, but they get to see the true behind the scenes, all the issues that

actually happen. We have to decide, as you guys know with TV, they have to decide what storylines they're following. And then they kind of have to stick to that. Unless something else comes up, they kind of have to stick to that because there's a thread throughout the episode. Right. And there are story editors behind the scenes following that thread. So sometimes we would call and say, I think one of the biggest misconceptions is sometimes

the biggest drama that happens has to happen behind the scenes because we didn't start following that threat. Right. What about you? Do you think any, what's the biggest misconception? No, I agree with you. Everyone thinks it's easy, but it's not. Right.

There's a lot of financial risk and working with your wife risk. Explaining the toothbrush incident that we talked about in the car on the way home, thank God we drove separately. I was going to say, you're good. Oh, my gosh. But that's, yeah, I'm with her. Okay. And lastly, I wanted to bring up was you, you, you. You just turned 40 this year.

Yes. Happy birthday. Amazing. And you wrote a really wonderful blog post reflecting on what that meant for you. You said you wanted to surround yourself with people who live authentically. What do you think living authentically looks like and how are you doing it in your own life this year? Well, that's awesome. I love that you read that and I love that you're asking that.

It was beautiful. For me, I think you get to a place or a point in your life when you don't give a shit anymore about some little stuff. And you hear like, oh, don't, you know, don't sweat the small stuff. But it really doesn't happen until, you know, you have kids and you're following all of these other different lives. And for me, turning 40 was about living authentically and surrounding myself around people that or by people that will be happy for me when I'm happy. Because everybody wants to be around you and surround themselves around you when you're sad. That's human nature. But when things are going well, can somebody still lift you up?

And so for me, that's also about being a little bit more vulnerable, you know? And this is a conversation we have often because Dave doesn't always appreciate vulnerability when I'm doing that on social media. So for me to talk about what's going on in our own lives and what's going on with our kids and the issues, I think to me as a woman, I have surrounded myself with other women who want to do. do that and want to give that back to me. So I feel normal and I feel real because life is hard, y'all. Like, it's hard. Yeah. And it's also great, but to me. It's hard to be a man, too.

Perfection is boring. Just kidding. Yeah, perfection is boring. So for me, it's just about living, like, just, you know, being more vulnerable. And I'm definitely doing that, especially on social media, but also in my own life and my real life, telling it like it is and being okay to say, I mean, somebody said to me one day, this is a couple of months ago, actually it was about a month ago. And it was actually a client of mine.

I went to see her new baby. And she said, so how are you guys? And, like, how's life? And I was like, actually, the last couple weeks I've been really shitty. It's actually really. Because everyone just expects it to be, oh, how are you doing? Good. Good.

I'm doing good. You? Good. Awesome. And I was like, and so she actually took the time about two weeks later to write me a card, which nobody does. She just had her first or second baby, but she took the time, wrote me a cart about how special it was for her to hear, for me to be so open with her about, like, wow,

I'm really exhausted as a mother. It's hard. Everything's hard. but I was like, we're getting through it and it's going to be awesome. And so, again, to me, that's where the love is. I think it's so important because of how involved in social media, everybody is, everybody's heads down on social,

everybody's scrolling, everybody's, and everybody has this ingrained in their brain of everybody's living this perfect life. And it's so refreshing to hear somebody just say, actually I've had a really shitty couple of weeks and here's why, but everything's going to be okay. Everything's going to be okay. That's something that, I mean, you can agree with this

the way I try and live too. I mean, I'm 33, but I still feel like every year I just get more and more like that where I just want to be around authentic people. Why not? I find it hard to come by. I've found it really hard in Nashville to meet people. I don't know if you guys feel the same way, but I have felt that way. And I just feel like it's so important and refreshing to hear people live that way.

I just, Dave and I, actually, when we were in Edmonton, which is where you guys are from, right? Okay, so we just saw Michelle Obama. We were there speaking ourselves, and she was playing right after us. And so we went to the... You're in good company. Well, actually, what's funny is somebody had written on my Instagram saying, oh my gosh, we should give up our Michelle Obama tickets, Courtney and Dave are in town. I was like, um, frame that.

And can I, you know, don't ever do that. And where is she playing? And so we, um, we went and I, it was so refreshing to hear her speak because she actually talked about her in Obama being in therapy and she made, which I love that. And she said, Barack was not crazy about it being in her book. and she's like, why would you want to talk about that? And she said, if I'm asking other people to live authentically, I have to too. And she also tells a really funny story about she's like,

Barack went out and went golfing one day or for two days on a weekend vacation, came back and she said like, hey, how's Trevor's son? And he was like, I don't know. And she was like, I hung up with the wives for one hour for coffee and I know everything about their lives. And you hung out for like an entire weekend and you don't like Trevor's son has cancer. You don't know what you guys would talk about it? And so it's interesting, like, I think men and women and how they, you know, do things differently.

But for me, thank you for asking. I'm trying to live more authentically. I love that. Perfect. But it's, yeah. I absolutely love that. I just love you, too. Well, we love you too.

I'm kind of hung up on one thing. Okay. You had a bad two weeks, and I don't remember that. Yeah, we, maybe you were tuned out. Yeah. She told you. It was in the calendar. Yeah, it was obviously in the calendar.

I was golfing with Barack. You're networking at two weeks. Like, how's life? Great. Nobody wants to open up to Barack about their problems. They're like, let's just golf and say we golf with Barack Obama. We love you too. And I feel puzzles and, you know, networking in our future.

Are we done? Absolutely. Maybe we've got to go pick up kids. Yeah, you've got places to be. There's an Uber to pick them out. Can't they catch another frame? And there you go. There you have.

I step out here. I'm going to hear toothbrush for this. Cheers. Yeah, cheers to your new wine label, Caitlin. Let's play. Yeah, cheers. Cheers, guys. Cheers.

Thank you guys so much. Really, really loved having you guys on. And I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Briscoe. Get new episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcast.com, the Podcast One app, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Who's on with OTV? Sponsors for this week's Off the podcast.

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