Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Michael Ray with Brandi Cyrus

Episode Date: July 3, 2018

Kaitlyn and special co-host Brandi Cyrus sit down with country singer Michael Ray to talk about his new album Amos and his grandfather whom it is inspired by and named after. Michael reveals ...what he's picked up to keep him humble, and getting into the Guinness Book of World Records. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Who's down with OTV? Who's that with OTV? Podcast One presents off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Caitlin is creating a space where girls and gents can feel empowered to be themselves. Get ready for lots of laughs. Tabby topics. On filtered advice and wine. Lots of wine.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Get ready to shake things up. Here's Caitlin. Okay, welcome to Off the Vime. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, and co-hosting with me today is Brandy Cyrus. Hey, y'all. And, hey, y'all, you're so Southern. I'm always so jealous. I'm like, when can I switch from being Canadian to Southern?
Starting point is 00:01:13 It'll happen. I'm on year three. Year three. You're so early. But you don't sound that Canadian. You're right. It could be way worse. I've heard you say, y'all.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I'm trying to transition. I've said it once in my whole career. You could combine it. and just say, hey, y'all. And then it's a little Canadian, little southern. I'm doing that. That's good. And that, man, right there with the great idea, is Michael Ray in the studio.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Hey, y'all. I love clapping for everybody. Oh, okay, we'll clap. Hey, y'all. I have this rosé in my hand. I have to tell you, do you know I've interviewed you before? Now you put me on the spot. No, I didn't remember either, actually.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Oh, okay, good, okay. I didn't either. Because, okay, so I'm like telling Sean, and he's like, you've interviewed him before. I'm like, what, when? I interviewed you. On the red carpet at the 50th anniversary, CMAs, and we played the five-second rule game. Yes. And you couldn't name three animals in five minutes or five seconds and five minutes.
Starting point is 00:02:06 That would be awkward. I remember that. Yeah, that was me. That was my first red carpet. Really? The 50th anniversary. You had the green suit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah. How many years ago was that? Two, I see. Two or three? Three years ago. It was three? Two. Two.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Two. Because was that the one in Dallas? Well, the ACMs, 50th anniversary of the ACMs. No, we're talking about. It was Dallas. No, this. Oh. So this was a CMA, so this was my second red carpet.
Starting point is 00:02:29 So that's why I wasn't, now, now I could probably name animals in five seconds. Okay, go. What animal? Yeah, but it was like barnyard. No, no. Boom. See, same page. Yeah, but that's because you've been thinking about it since I asked you.
Starting point is 00:02:40 That was five seconds. You said a whole minute. You said, you were like zebras. Zebras. You said something else. And then you didn't even know you interviewed me. You can't, you don't remember that. I know, but then I rewatched it today.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I was like, I rewatched it today. I was like, oh, I did. And then you sucked at it. I said, hey, you got the nice suit and you got good hair. You got to suck at something. Thank you. Yeah. So it was like a little backhanded compliment.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah. But that's, now you know I'm going to put you on the spot again. We're playing the five second rule. Boom. Okay. You ready? Farm animals?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Nope. Yeah, right. Like, I'm going to give you that one. I'm just going to give you the trophy. Brandy, you're going to do it too. Oh, okay. Brandy, three things. You have to do three in five seconds.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Ready? Three things you love about me. Go. Oh, you're funny. You're pretty. And you're the nicest. person ever. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:03:30 How great of a friend am I? That was really nice. Thank you for your honesty. Yeah, you're welcome. Okay. Wait, do you ever go by Mike or is it Michael? Michael, yeah. Yeah, I don't feel like you're a Mike.
Starting point is 00:03:43 No, I feel like Mike sells insurance. He does. Yeah, that's my dad. My dad's Mike. Does he sell insurance? He sells machinery parts for the oil industry. Oh, well, that's a whole, that's cooler than insurance. Yeah, but it's Mike.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's a big Mike. He's my size, but we call him Big Mike. I feel like that's a normal thing. I feel like people always call their dad like, you know. When you get older, it's like, hey, Big Jay, my dad's in his Jerry. Actually, that's true. Do you call him Big Jay? My friends do.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I've called him Dad since I could talk. Oh, right. Yeah. Oh, yeah, me too. Since I could talk. It's a common thing. That is, I just realized I call Sean's dad Big Steve. You do?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah. Hey, Big Steve. What's up? Yeah. Interesting. All the time. He loves it. The dads love it.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I bet he does. Dad's love that thing. Dad's love it. Okay, three things that are on your nightstand. Go. Coffee cup that was in my... See, this is where I messed up. I explained.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I explain. Don't explain. Bible, book, picture my grandfather. Oh, geez. That's a lot of things. My nightstand's not that big. That's very, like, I respect that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I thought you were going to be, like, condoms, vodka. Condoms, vodka, cigarettes. Yeah, and two cigarette butts. Two cigarette butts. And all the regrets. You're like there, that's four That's four In five seconds
Starting point is 00:05:00 Okay I feel like we should turn this around on you Oh, you can Go ahead I feel like you're probably better You think You think? Your shoes are incredible by the way
Starting point is 00:05:12 They are cute You always have a good shoe game Brandy's I was just about to say That her Instagram It's always like She's the only girl As a guy I go I wonder what shoes she has
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah Yeah you do always have That's always great That's true Thanks I love shoes Okay, you're stranded on a desert island You can only take three things What are they?
Starting point is 00:05:29 My dog A knife and wine You're pointing at you guys I didn't even say Sean You left out your fiancé And all I heard about The only thing I got out of this was you're going to get drunk And probably got to eat your dog
Starting point is 00:05:45 That's all I got out of it Tucker My dog a knife I would eat my own two legs Before I ate Tucker Same Oh, yeah, that was bad, but I did it. It was five seconds.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Okay, one more round. We won't tell Sean. One more. Sean don't listen to this one. He's a big off the vine guy. He listens all the time. He's a big. But you said things, to be fair, not people.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Tucker's not a thing. Don't ruin this for me. Tucker's a thing. Maybe. Tucker has a soul. Okay. Three ways, three other ways of what you would call making whoopee. Go.
Starting point is 00:06:20 three who's this director yeah who I don't know you go whoever's more awkward
Starting point is 00:06:27 yeah yeah okay we lost it's like 50 seconds okay I don't think I would have called it
Starting point is 00:06:37 that yeah why did that why did that come to my mind making whoopee I don't know I felt like wrong saying sex for some reason
Starting point is 00:06:43 no you wanted us to say what else I just think I wanted you to say sex so I said making whoopee so I kind of
Starting point is 00:06:49 there you go sex intercourse wanted hooking up okay yeah there's 15 seconds but you know what we got there yeah we got there hey cheers guys cheers cheers cheers cheers we're drinking wine at one o'clock in the afternoon this is so on brand the kately bristow way it is I'm like I don't care what time it is I always say someone told me it's five o'clock somewhere and I always say yeah no shit I know how time zones work that's the exact whenever I heard Alan Jackson sing this song I was like yeah yeah you're like Duh.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Learn that in school. I need to turn down the brightness of my screen right now because it's a little aggressive. Okay, so you don't remember me. I didn't remember you. We're off to a great start. Wait, how are you going to open the wine if you don't have a wine opener on the island? Oh, I know. The knife?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh, I know. Yeah. I know a trick. I know the tricks. I know the tricks of the trade. I want to see you open a wine bottle with a knife. Oh, I'll show you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Maybe on July 4th you can make that happen. Yeah, I will show you then. All I need is a shoe. Oh. And you hit the bottom of it. Yeah, I learned that on Modern Family. Really? What's up, Sarah Highland?
Starting point is 00:07:51 What up, Sarah? Yeah, that's how I learned it. I know you guys have seen these and heard about them everywhere you go. Sugar Bear hair. You always wonder why everybody, like, from Bachelor Nation or even the Kardashians, have such gorgeous hair. Well, it's Sugar Bear Hair. Picture any celebrity with amazing hair.
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Starting point is 00:09:07 I mean, some of those songs we cut a year and a half ago. Oh, wow. And like, you sit on them and then you kind of, you know, as a record process starts growing and your songs, you know, the choices and and kind of going through of, okay, you kind of fell in love with this song earlier in the process, but then your sound kind of changed, or maybe where you're at in your life kind of changed, and you're like, no, I think I want to go more this direction. And then you finally get the group of songs that you want on your record, and then you can't play them out yet.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Right. You're sitting on these songs that you've been playing out for us for two years. That's wild. A lot happens in two years. Yeah. And so, yeah, like interviews that you forgot about. Right. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Exactly. You don't even remember stuff. All of a sudden, you're remembering songs. And so we're like, we were just so excited to finally get these songs out. And I just knew, I knew that I found my sound with this record. And I knew that I found what I wanted to say. And I knew that I was confident who I was for the first time, not only as an artist, but as a person and not scared to show different sides and going through this record of just want to be honest and go, hey, here's the last two years of what I've been through. Here's the last two years of my life and really connect my story better than I felt like we did on the first record.
Starting point is 00:10:16 you know the first record was great um we got two number ones off of it yeah that's amazing two gold singles it got me out of a freaking van finally and wow that's huge when i first moved to nashv i lived with my band five dudes in a two-bedroom two-bath apartment oh wow so it got me out of that so everything i'm very grateful for that yeah oh of course but uh but you know just growing touring um figuring out uh you know where we wanted to go live being able to tour with with artists that brought us album they could have brought anybody else out and sitting inside stage and watching them and learning um it was a two years of growth and this record i feel like shows it and i'm and finally i was like i got to get this album out and and and when we were trying to figure out what we're going to call this record we were
Starting point is 00:11:00 going through like trying to try trying to be cool and be like oh there's got to be a cool line in here you know or something like just be creative and and and nothing like stuck and somebody on my team was like hey man so my story i grew up in a small town in central florida and my family had a band My whole thing started with my grandfather. Yes. Amos. Who's the name of that record. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:11:22 That is really cool. And so he got out of the Army, married my grandmother. They were married for 53 years. And they had my dad and my uncle. My grandfather got out of the Army, he was an unbelievable guitar player. Not a singer, just like Chet Atkins, just an unbelievable guitar player. His passion for music, still to this day, is like nobody's I've ever met. I mean, he is the sole purpose why everybody in my family.
Starting point is 00:11:46 family has a guitar in their house, has a keyboard, has a man, has something, whether they play it or not. It's just like everybody had it. Right. And so he, he would sit my dad, my uncle, the cousins of that generation down and like try to teach them harmonies, teach them, you know, instruments and put instruments in their hands. That's, that would end up leading to the family band in the late 80s, early 90s, called the country cousins back then. I love it. I wish I could find merch. I love family bands. Yeah, it was like a redneck cartridge family. That's amazing. And so it was my dad sing lead.
Starting point is 00:12:19 My uncle played bass, sing harmony, cousin played drums. Grandpa played lead, and two other cousins sang harmony as well. Wow. That's awesome. It's really cool. I'm like jealous. Then I came along. Then I came along. I think it was like process of elimination really for my grandfather.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Like my dad had my oldest sister, Ryan, and I think my grandpa was like, let's put a guitar in her head. He just wanted everybody to have music in their life. Right. And then I don't think she clicked with us. And then Christina came along, my second sister, and then she didn't click with it. And then I came along, and I was the first boy at the time. My dad's still only some, but my dad, my grandfather has three other grandsons. But so anyway, I was just always on stage with him from when I was this little kid playing this little fake Kermit the Frog, you know, guitar.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And then about nine years old, I was finally made the decision. I was like, man, I want to really learn how to play guitar. And we were in North Carolina at my uncle Kenny's property in Cherokee where there's not to do. Yeah. Right, like, we weeded at the spot where we put the tent. And so, like, what better way to, like, learn guitar when there's not shit to do? I feel like that's where all the best musicians come from, like stories like this. Yeah. And so I was like, they were playing guitar, him and my Uncle Kenny and my cousins that were around the bonfire.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And I was like, damn it, I want to learn how to play. Well, I was nine, so I was like, dang it. Yeah. Dang it, Papa. I was like, I want to learn how play. And so he taught me my first set of chords. And it was that moment, my family, my picture. went through a divorce around that time yeah and for me and it wasn't like it was not like the hey it's just not working like it was an okay it was not the the easy split you know right right
Starting point is 00:13:55 and so I started learning guitar by the time and then for me like I had my youngest sister so I've all sisters yeah and so you're a gentleman is what you're saying yes and uh I knew it and so for me it was like I could just lose myself in this and then whether I was in my room practicing um for that point on, I was with my grandfather playing shows Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, sometimes twice on Sunday. Wow. Real traditional country music, it was like bluegrass festivals through Florida as much as I could because for me it was like if I was on stage or if I was playing with my grandfather, if I was
Starting point is 00:14:30 in the bands with him, if I was in my room, none of that other stuff was going on. And I could just kind of lose myself in that. And I still kind of, that's, that's, I still have that outlook when I go on stage now. I mean, obviously my parents are fine now. It's not the divorce thing. But, you know, it's just like with that moment of time, like I can go there and there's not emails, there's not anything. I can just escape and I can take this crowd on this journey with me and I can hope what I want to do is take them out of whatever they're going through as well and take them out of it and we can just all be together for one reason and that's country music and they can make memories of their friends and family and like, you know, afterwards go, man, we got to escape and make a night out of this, you know. Yeah, it is an escape.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Music is, and especially country music, I find, everybody's got a story, and they tell their story, and some people, like, harp on country music for that, like, oh, your dog ran away and all that. But I'm like, no, country music to me. Oh, it's like storytelling and it's best. Yeah, and it always means something to somebody, and it always relates to everything other people are going through, and it can mean so many other things to different people, and you just all connect, and I just love it. Yeah, and that's the best thing, too. Like, we could, all three of us could listen to one song, and all three of us will get a different feel out of it. But we'd all love it. And so for me, like, I started playing with him, and it was like every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, all the way up until I was like 16, 17.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Then I started playing bars. And it was like, it just, that was the growth of my music risk where it all started. And it was like this obsession with traditional country music. And like, I joke now. I'm like, I know I don't look like the dude jamming Ray Price hearty by the number, but like, that's what I love. But it's 2018. I love traditional country music and I love bluegrass. And that's what I was raised on.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And so when we were titled on this record, when I really felt like, you know what, as a, as a, as a. man as an artist as everything this is me i can i can hand you this record and be proud as hell of this album and go yeah this is me and then i wanted you know the fact that i knew that it was the story that i wanted to tell and i really felt like people would hear a lot of that influence in this album yeah we wanted i wanted to take them back to the man that started it all and for me it was i i feel like my musical journey started when he planted the seed with my dad and my cousins of that generation because if it wasn't for them starting the band to put me in this. And so when it came time to name the album, it just made sense. That makes a lot of sense. To name the record after him. And he
Starting point is 00:16:42 passed away a couple years ago, right in the middle of radio tour, right in the middle of a big, you know, big moment of our life. And so it was just, it was just a, we just made sense to title and it's like a tribute, too. Like, that's amazing. I love that. And it's a great name. Yeah, it is. Yeah. It is a solid name. It's a solid name. Yeah. I wondered where it came from. Yeah. I'm glad you just launched him to it. Oh, that's so interesting. And I feel like I just really got to know you in that in that five minutes span there that was wow see I need five minutes not five seconds there you go well now we know now we know now we know and also I don't know if you talk about this or write about this but you're open with having anxiety um do you feel
Starting point is 00:17:20 like this is just something I feel like it's like our surroundings I feel like a lot of people have been struggling with anxiety lately and you know some people like oh that makes me anxious and they don't mean it but like some people really truly I suffer from anxiety but it doesn't, like, cripple me and I don't suffer that bad, but I still get it, and it's a new thing for me. I've never had it my whole life except for, like, the last two years. But don't you feel like even music for you to write and share your music helps other people with anxiety and that you can all talk about it and share that same? Like, I feel like music helps anxiety.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, it was the fans that gave me the confidence to even say anything. You start meeting fans out and meeting greets or wherever, and then they go, man, you start, realizing that, you know, we're all cut from the same cloth, but I got this platform where I can say something, and as a, I get it, like, you know, a lot of guys, a lot of dudes are like, oh, I'm a man, I'm not, come on. Being a man is called being honest. Being a man, it's called being honest and being open with where you're at and what you're doing and, and how you're feeling for the longest time. Like, mine started when my parents got divorced. And, and I was
Starting point is 00:18:26 helping take care of my little sister. I was, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on and, and that all of a sudden your whole life just gets the floor just gets the rug gets swept up from my ear and you're young and you're young and I was like eight years old and when it happened and it's but I didn't know it at the time I was just like I just always felt kind of my insides was just always kind of like a rushed feeling of not really chill yeah you can't really comprehend that as a year old yeah and then I was like I got older and then signed a record deal you get the stress and the pressure of putting a single out you get a stress and pressure start realizing a lot of the work that you didn't know goes into yeah when you're playing in Florida. Yeah. You know, like all the other behind-the-scenes stuff that you don't know. And it just starts adding on to a point to where, like, I would literally walk into a restaurant and go, please, God, I didn't not want to see anybody. Like, I would get anxiety going, what if I say the wrong thing?
Starting point is 00:19:14 What if, I would sit in my house and not take somebody back? So I'm worried if I said something. It would, like, mess me up real bad. To a point of what? Saying the wrong thing, sorry, I'm getting, like, psychological on this now. When you say that, like, you're worried about saying the wrong thing, is that because you're afraid to, like, hurt somebody's feet? feelings or you're afraid are you a people pleaser like are you just stuck i wonder do you have an
Starting point is 00:19:35 idea with the anagram is i was going to bring this out i've talked about i don't i don't we got to make him take it okay deal i should you know what i actually almost sent a message to you to say to take it but i didn't want to put that pressure on you because it's like a personality like it's like who are you dig deep no i would love to do that do it we're going to send it to you that's send it to me yeah okay guys let's talk wells fargo it's a company with a storied past and a big part of that past was around building trust. I like it. Back in the day when the country headed west for gold, Wells Fargo was the bank trusted to bring it back east. But somewhere along the way, Wells Fargo lost their way. So now they're working hard to earn your trust again. They're making things right
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Starting point is 00:20:46 anxiety, which is wild for me because if you knew me, even three years ago before I went on a TV show, I was a performer. I love to make people laugh. I am so social. and now I'm like hiding and I get anxiety when I go out and like it's the weirdest thing. See, I've always been that way. Like as soon as the room has more than three people in it, it's not that I get anxiety. I just shut down.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, yeah. Because I just like can't. I can understand that. See, it's kind of weird for me. Like, the more people, I'm on. Yeah. But if like I've got to be like a one-on-one conversation with somebody like maybe I don't see all the time.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Like I think for me and as if I look back and if I'm honest, I think that's why I've always kept like a lot of my boys from my hometown with me. So like a couple of my band members have been with me since. day one. It's kind of like a little bit of home all the time. It's like a safe place. But like now, so I went to, when I went to a doctor, I was like, dude, I got, I don't know what the hell this is, but someone's got to be fixed. This isn't me. Like, normally, like, I'm, I mean, I don't meet a stranger. I'm always in. Like, I'm always down for whatever. But I just started noticing, like, as soon as I'd walk in, and I still battle, I'd battle yesterday
Starting point is 00:21:48 walking into the palm before we played the rhyming for the Georgia on my mind thing. It was like, I'd see people that are, like, friends of mine, but I haven't really talked to him a couple We're talking like, but now I know I feel it coming on, like, you know, put yourself down, everything's cool. Nobody's judging you. You're not going to say the wrong thing, you idiot. Like, stop being this guy. But so, but for me, like one day I woke up, I was like, man, I just felt this calling.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I was like, I need to make a video of this. And I need to tell people because the bad thing about anxiety is you can't get out of your own head. Right. And so if you don't do something bad or if somebody doesn't help you put a label on it, that leads to way worse things. And I just had it all my heart. I was like, I need to make this video. And so I made this little Snapchat video, not thinking anything of it. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And some fan saved it, cropped it or edited it or whatever and put it on YouTube. And then now, like, the fans that are coming up to me and guys that are coming up me going, bro, I needed that video. Like, I didn't know how I was dealing with this. And it's helped me, you know, it's helped me figure out why I don't talk to my wife anymore. You know what I know and all this stuff. And so it's been a cool thing for me. And it's all because, like, the fans gave me the confidence to go, because I think,
Starting point is 00:22:53 I don't know if anybody else battles this as far as, like, being in the, public eye but sometimes you feel you want to be like the cool person all the time you know like you only want to show like it's an entire podcast on this did you yeah yeah of like feeling like I have some I don't have no idea why I feel this way I have some responsibility to be the cool girl always yes I don't know why I feel like that I'm not wanting to show anybody like the the real side of things exactly right and I think and I think the reason why like a lot of people nowadays are about anxiety is we are constantly comparing ourselves to people we don't even know the hell they are Always.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So you go on Instagram, the next thing you know, you're, you're 24 weeks into some dude's page. You haven't ever, you don't know this dude is. You just happen to have a mutual friend that, you know, that you really don't even know who that person is. But next thing you know, you're like, I'm, man, he's less pretty dope. Oh, shit, he's 30. Well, I'm 30. He's way further than I. I know.
Starting point is 00:23:44 We all do it. And I do love that. Well, maybe it's just me, but I feel like we have conversations about it, which helps and talking about it. Because I'm like, why do we all continue? I call it. I call it like shopping for anxiety because you like go looking. You like know it's bad and you just keep scrolling and you keep comparing, but you know it's like not doing yourself any favors. But it's so weird.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I feel the same thing. Like I think I've always just told myself like, I've got all guy friends and I'm like the cool girl. And now as I get older, I'm like way more emotional, way more like in tune with myself. And I'm I'm different than I thought I was. But now I feel like this pressure to be like on all the time too. which I mean it is part of my job but also that's it is kind of a job and it's a responsibility and that's probably why you feel
Starting point is 00:24:29 that way because the people who don't know you and when you do have a platform that's what they come to you for and that they find joy in your joy and they turn to you for like a laugh or certain things so you do feel that responsibility and obviously we're also happy to be able to share that with people but it does
Starting point is 00:24:46 come with a little bit of anxiety. Yeah and I think I think too like going back to being a people pleaser it took me a long time to you know getting a record is you have a better shot of like being a starting picturing the MLB right now right so when you've went I'm from a double-wide trailer in a small town like the whole thing to me is like every day I go into Warner where you know play a show and people show up and it sold out somewhere and I've never even been this there I'm like what the hell it's still something to me that I'm like this is
Starting point is 00:25:13 insane like it's still it's not anything like you saying like people care about my scrunchies like yeah she like out of everybody that's come out of the bachelor franchise like I feel like you have been the most successful at like maintaining like a fan group and like really like making something out of it and like for you to be like they care like for you to question that blows my mind but like it's just natural to I think yeah yeah because I think I've always just really tried to be myself and I am honest with with people as well with anxiety or having like tough days because I'm like I can't always be on like I just can't yeah well and nobody can nobody can and nobody should no because it's when you do that and run yourself into the ground and and stay on all the time that
Starting point is 00:25:52 it drains you. Yeah. And like you can't constantly pour yourself out without like getting filled back up, whether that's spending alone time or with friends or like whatever. Exactly. 100%. And that's what took me a long time to realize that like for me to be the best for my team, for me to be the best for my fans,
Starting point is 00:26:05 for me to be the best for me. Yeah. I have to have that long time. You have to have a great team, which I have now between my management, my publicist, my label. Like just for right now professionally.
Starting point is 00:26:18 You've built itself a good team. Like having them there and having been. honest with them and then we all knowing each other and having more than just a business relationship having their they're great friends of mine you know and having that then also realizing that like for me finding that one thing whether it's reading a book whether it's meditating in the morning whether it's just going hey you know go for a 20 minute walk for me I tell my people I'm like hey give me an hour a day I just need to go to the gym for an hour yeah that's my time I'll give you 23 hours I will work my ass off for 23 but just give me that one to recharge
Starting point is 00:26:50 hour does I meditate in the mornings and then that little hour during the day is like I'm good yeah and and that's what I had to learn that's what settled mine and let me be in a clear space because I remember like I'm not an angry person right and I remember just like getting that like little things and I wouldn't but then I'm like too scared to say anything so I just bottle all this shit up you know and I'm like I'm dying to know what anyagram number you are he's a nine that's what I think he's a nine yeah I think but I don't want to tell you that before you take what is the nine's title again The peacemaker. The Michael.
Starting point is 00:27:22 The peacemaker, yeah. Three is the... Three? It's me. Why can't I think what it is? You're a three? Yeah, I'm a three. Yeah, I'm a three.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Okay, because I see a lot of four in you. Three is... We still talking about this or shoes? Definitely an eagram. Yeah. What the heck is the three? I can't remember. Two is the helper, right?
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah, that I'm not sure. Is it good to be a nine? Like, is that a good thing? Yeah, they're all, all of them have good. It was like, hey, what yours is nine, oh, shit. Well, I would, what I've always said about it is it's, it's the achiever. The achiever. Yes, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It's easy to read the results from anything like that and only see the negative, right? Like, it's not like human beings, so we do. But, like, I try to remember the positives of it. Yes. It's like, I don't know. I'm excited for you to take it. I am too. I've heard of this, but I've never.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I actually talk, my therapist is like so in tune. She studies the Enneagram numbers and she knows you should. It's honestly, like, I get. I like skip into therapy because I'm like so excited to talk about it because I've learned so much about myself and how other people and other people and how to communicate with other people and how like they call it your impaired self like when you think in your impaired self how it's like unhealthy and how you can shift it to think in your like healthy self and it's honestly life changing you have to take the test I'm in it was Russell Dickerson who got me into it what is Russ what is Russ? Oh, he is a three. He is a three. Okay, he has to have a four wing, too. I think he's a three.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah. That makes sense. He is a three. Yeah. And Kaylee, his wife, is a nine. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah. So do I need to marry a three with a four wing? Is that what I need? No, they all work differently together. It's about how you think in your number and how that person thinks in their number. Like, Sean is a three and I'm a three. Oh, yeah. We talked about that.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And so we both are like overachievers and we're like, but we can also, when we're in healthy mindset, we can be very supportive to each other or we can get competitive. Yeah. But so as long as you're just, it's just about how you are in your number. But I just, we definitely encourage you to. It's fascinating. Amen. But that's, like you say, you go to the gym for your one hour.
Starting point is 00:29:35 This leads me into my confession. Oh, gosh. It's not that bad. My confession, I usually have some pretty, like, raunchy ones. This one's gross. This one's tame. It's gross, but it's tame. I did a spin class this morning.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And I get, like, aggressively sweaty. Like, so. Like, girls come out and they're, like, all cute and glowy. I'm like, I look like a drowned rat. Same. And my face gets furnace face. Like, it's just, like, bright red. I look like I'm like, people are like, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Like, that's what happens. Yeah. And so that was me today. So gross. And I got home and I realized the time. And I'm like, I blow dried. my soaking wet sweaty hair I threw on some fake eyelashes
Starting point is 00:30:20 and I'm still in my same sweaty workout top and pants that's what's so great about this job though I know this makes me feel good because it doesn't matter I was almost in your situation so I was with my trainer this morning and then I had these radio interviews
Starting point is 00:30:36 which I had to do in the back of an Uber which is always fun yeah been there and I get to the house I have to have a lunch meeting I have 15 minutes to get from my house changed and into at Warner for this lunch meeting. And I didn't know what this setup was going to be like. So I was like, I'm going to have to, I got to throw jeans on, I guess, but I literally, I almost just had to show up.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So you would have been in the same situation. That's what's so great about the pod. It is my favorite. But then we take pictures. Yeah, we do. Yeah. So it's hard. But that is something that I really love because I used to always think I wanted to be on TV.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Like all growing up, I was like, I'm going to be on TV. It is not all it's cracked up to be. No. No, no, no. And then I got on TV and I'm like, extra hard on myself I've never been hard on myself I'm like nitpicking myself
Starting point is 00:31:20 I'm doing it and now I'm like podcasting is where it's at because no cameras I know you can just be comfortable pound rosé at noon pound rosé at noon just living the life you know it really is
Starting point is 00:31:34 dry sweaty hair and all I am such a sweater too and like being with Olivia all weekend yeah oh you're like hiking we did a 10 mile hike and we booked it like we were up and down in like four hours I think like 10 miles and she gets up to the top and she just like takes her hair down and it's like okay photo time and looks like so she's so hot I'm like how are you not sweating how do you look perfect meanwhile my hair is so wet it literally looks like it's been raining oh I she's like do you want a photo I'm like no I cannot take pictures up here I'm like drenched I know you do sweat a lot but like you're supposed to sweat it makes me feel good if I don't sweat then I'm like well that was a waste of a workout. Like, I love getting that sweaty, but I'm like, it's very
Starting point is 00:32:18 inconvenient. It is inconvenient. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm a sweater. Yeah. But like, you're supposed to. Just sweat out toxins. Yeah. And I got to sweat out all my rosé that I drink every day. It's about balance. Release, replenish. Release, replenish. My, that is my, like, what did they call it? A mantra, mantra? Mantra. Mantra? Mantra. I don't know. I don't know. But that's mine. Balance. Like, drink, drink. I'm so. We could have just said that. Drink the rosé, work out. Your motto? Eat the burger. Work out.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Don't, I never work out. Who said the Savannah, Christi? I think she's, I saw it on a Twitter. On a Twitter. On the Twitter. She said something like, I work out to eat, not to look good. Yeah, but she's also 19. Is she 19? Skinny no matter what. She's 19? Maybe 20 now. She's not 21 because she can't go anywhere. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:33:11 She's so, yeah, her body's insane because she's 20. yeah my body was not insane you hear the shade my voice right now I was speaking I was so much shade I was trying to think I was trying to think of
Starting point is 00:33:24 me at 20 I will find a photo I was a cheerleader in British Columbia Canada for the felines and I I'll show people the picture and they're like
Starting point is 00:33:35 did you just get your wisdom teeth out because I was just chubs like no I'm telling you brandy there's no way well I mean not chubs but like, like, round, like super round face. Well, I'm engaged to Mr. Fitness.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I got to set, like, being naked around him, I'm like, dang, I better, like, step up my game. I just don't know if I can be with somebody that ripped. I mean, I like, I like, I love fitness. I love to work out. But, like, I, at 40, might not want to do that. And if I'm married to somebody whose life is fitness, they might not be okay with that. I always would. I'm letting myself go at 50 for sure, whether they're in it or not.
Starting point is 00:34:13 You deserve it. I'm going to give myself 20 years of being my best and then I'm coasting the rest. That is me right now. I keep thinking, like, I want to have the best body I could possibly have before I have a baby because, first of all, I want to be healthy. And I just want to feel like my best self through my 30s, through my 40s, 50, f*** it. Yeah, no, 50's out. It's all down. And I'll love going downhill.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I'll enjoy the ride. I'm going to snowboard. I will go downhill on a bitch sled and I'm just going to fifth gear hair back. Woo! Yes. Downhill. Oh, man. I've spent my mom.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I'm going to give myself the best I can't until 50. That's your mantra mantra? That's my, that's whatever that word is, yes. My mantra mantra is, I better look like freaking tish Cyrus if you are. Seriously. Have you seen a picture of my mother? It's stupid. It is dumb.
Starting point is 00:35:01 She looks great. It is so ridiculous. Like by 50, I better. And she does nothing. She does not work out. She eats like abs. Well, then it's in your G-X. Then you're good.
Starting point is 00:35:09 It better be. My mom and your mom, are a lot of like in that aspect of my very beautiful women like just like it's like a fluke of nature it's ridiculous yeah like I want to see a picture your mom all right I'll show you yeah she she's like your mom like you're how many times you hear it from your friends like she doesn't look like she would have kids oh yeah people think she's my sister yeah like who's older I literally for a while like I'm single I can't have my mom like my mom we can't walk in a room at the same time because they think you're dating
Starting point is 00:35:37 like you ruin my game you know what I mean like I can't be like and she has like she works at the hospital back in my hometown and people come in and be like, oh, are you dating Michael Ray? Yeah. No. That's my son. That's my son.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It gets real weird. And like, it was one of those things like as a guy, like you didn't realize it, but then all of a sudden you just start noticing around high school, all your buddies want to hang out, you know, way more. And I'm like, wait a minute. That's so weird. To this day, all my, every single guy I've ever liked has been like, your mom's really hot.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And I'm like, that's great. Yeah, but your dad's pretty hot too. Yeah. He's getting, he's, I just called your dad. Listen, he's hot, but he... He's a stud. He's a stud. He's looking a little tough these days, I think.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I love it. But, man, you can't. But, like, he's really let himself go. Oh, if Billy Ray listens to my podcast, I've made it. I've made it. I've made it. Bitch, like, down. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Start the downhill now. Billy Ray Cyrus listens to my podcast. He just really let himself go, though, I think. Like, he's, so he used to be, like, when I was... Yeah, I was just going to say it. Am I being the Ray name? Am I just being the Ray name? He's 56?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Oh yeah, I'm with you Billy And get it Billy When I was younger Like my dad lived in the gym Like we had a gym in the house And that's what he did all day Every day was workout He's ribs is such great shape
Starting point is 00:36:53 And he's always like It's been so important to him Yeah Then all of a sudden I think around 50 His back went out quote unquote And he has not He does not done a sit up since He won't even walk around the block
Starting point is 00:37:04 Because his back hurts And I'm telling you it's like I saw him play softball His back looked fine And he left the game early. Oh, yeah. Billy, I got your back, bro. I got your bad back.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I got your bad back, man. 50 years old. I'll keep the red name strong. Yeah, there you go. Week, I guess. I'll keep the rain name strong. That's funny. Keep it weak.
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Starting point is 00:39:02 podcast one podcast one dot com and apple podcasts also remember to rate and review now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. You guys can't think you're getting out of a confession. I've been thinking all morning what mine is. I'm bad at this. I'm, well, I'm good for like the first six weeks of podcasting
Starting point is 00:39:20 and then I run out of confessions. I always steal them from Olivia because hers are really, really good. Tell us one of hers. I was about to say, do you call her out or do you just put yourself insert into the confession?
Starting point is 00:39:28 No, I just insert it. You're like, steal it from her. You're like, listen to this one. Get a load of this one. Gosh, I don't, I don't. You go first. I'm bad at this. Um,
Starting point is 00:39:38 I have a really lame one Did you guys ever listen to like I have a lame kind of I have a lame one Did you guys ever listen to like emo rock Like taking back Sunday Are you kidding me That's like all I've been listening to lately
Starting point is 00:39:54 I armor for sleep Take back Sunday Listen to me That was my jam I love the used I saw the use in concert I actually did too I'm bored with all this new music
Starting point is 00:40:07 Virginia. There's nothing good out. So I'm going to listen to taking back someday and they used. That's all I was right now. I started thinking, is that what our parents thought? Like when we were younger, like, this music. Yeah. Yeah, of course. And I'm like, you don't understand. But I still don't think that. Good Charlotte was going through dad issues. Yeah. Your band on their shit. That's so, I actually. Your band's from a cul-de-sac. Do you guys, have you guys ever heard Alexis on fire? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:31 They're Canadian. Oh, I think I knew that actually. Yeah, Dallas Green. He's amazing. Is he a babe? No. Oh. Is he over 50? No. He's just, he's like the, one of my favorite, like, singers, songwriters. He's amazing. But he's, he's, um, city and color is him, like, solo.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Oh. Because get it? Dallas Green. Yeah. I didn't know that. And then. Oh, very clever. Very.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And then his scream emo band is Alexis on fire. And I like know every word to every song. I still know all the words to the music I listened to in like ninth grade. Yeah. How's that possible? Because your brain is still a sponge at that point? You weren't drinking rosé at noon. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:12 You're very right. You had made a whole lot better choices. Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah. Although I can't remember, like, any of the two years of French I took in that time. Yo, two years of Spanish. I can't tell you. That's same with me.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I just started retaking. I'm taking Spanish. In my defense, my Spanish teacher was white and was learning it with us. So, like, I think this is it. No, I was, two years of Spanish. And in Florida, that's like a language you should probably know, at least a base. Right. You know, the basic Spanish.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah, nothing. She did not. I know, like, Cerva and. Is that mean drink? That means, yeah, beer. That was like me. I don't know, I just said that confidently, and I honestly don't know if it's beer or drink. I think it's beer.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I don't think it's beer. I think it's a drink. Is it a drink? That was like me. I lived in Germany, and all I could say was, can he haban ein mal drink better That's how I sound after I drink There you go
Starting point is 00:42:10 I feel like you would have learned French Isn't French more commonly? Yeah and I took French for nine years And I can say bonjour Oh my God That makes me feel better Yeah I'm good now we're good Brian Yeah you guys are fine
Starting point is 00:42:23 I went to Paris and I was like Well Canadian French French Canadian And Paris very different And Paris people do not like french canadians yeah and yeah but i still i'm like i don't know i don't know anything yeah same except all the words too cute without the e oh great tongue great tongue that's actually one of my favorite songs wait that can be a confession of mine i wrote on my wall this is so weird who just told me this that oh um my girlfriend tanya was just on the last podcast
Starting point is 00:42:54 she said that she wrote um not backster voice new kids on the block lyrics on her headboard i wrote cute without the e lyrics on my wall on my wall in like nice writing well i would have thought you were cool back then i was like 19 i still do it's okay no 19 i was still in the emo phase for sure oh i was oh really i was in yeah all my friends so at that point all my friends including russ dickerson were in metal bands fun fact russickerson was in a band did i tell you this last time no called buried under broken glass that was his band what that's kind of a good name together and he his band practice in a storage space and that's what I would do every night's like go watch the band practice that's so funny that is very emo so when he told me he was going to be a country as I was
Starting point is 00:43:40 like say what that is really funny yeah although he did always have a weird obsession with hanging out with my dad so it does make sense it all makes sense now yeah I would too uh tell me your lame confession um I think I kind of have too so I had a birth from like middle school was very awkward for me yeah had a stuttering problem i had speech impediments i was in fourth grads in speech lessons yeah yeah it's front tooth uh fell out and didn't come in for two years and then i had that brace as oh it gets better um and then my dad probably thanks to your dad um gave me uh one hell of a mold from birth to i was like in second grade right please tell me you've shared a photo of oh i got one i look like i look like i look like i was working security for my preschool
Starting point is 00:44:21 because i was this little stocky kid like i was a little chubby dude and like just the photo it's not And then if you ask my dad now, he's like, no, bro, it was cool. Like, he was like a flat top in the front, but you had long hair. It said a lot about your confidence. Dude, that was, that, I didn't have it. That's why I got into music. There was no comedy. You stuck a strong, suck the confidence out of all of them.
Starting point is 00:44:41 You can't walk around. Like, one tooth miss and stuttering problem. I couldn't say my ours. And then, like, my, you know, I, like, waddled because I was a little heavy. And then, like, a mullet, you know what I mean? So, like, you paint a pretty picture. He told me that, he told me, yeah, close your eyes. Yeah, I'm like, I can see it.
Starting point is 00:44:56 He said that when I got home one day, and I was like, Dad. You got to cut my hair. The people at school call me a girl. So that was my one convention. And also, I have a Guinness Book of World Records. What is it? It's for nothing, like, super cool. But I played that show in Haynes City, Florida.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And I've always wanted a Guinness Book of World Records just because I was like, I don't know, I thought it'd be cool. I was assumed it'd be, like, hopefully something with my talent. Yeah. No. No. I played this Fourth of July show in Haynes City, Florida a few years ago. And my tour manager, who I grew up with, comes up to me. He's like, hey, man, two things. Mayor wants to give you a key to the city. And I was like, all right, cool. Pretty cool. And he goes, second thing, one of your childhood dreams are going to come true. And I was like, Christine Aguilier here? No. He's like, he goes, he said, they're trying to break the world record, a world record tonight. So with the Guinness, one of the Guinness ladies, here. I go, for what?
Starting point is 00:45:58 He goes, they're bringing the world record for the most sparklers lit at one time. So I said, Hey, that's kind of cool. Okay. So, right after the show,
Starting point is 00:46:08 like they get everybody together and there's like thousands of people there. We all light these sparklers. I jump in the cracks. I'm like, I want to be a part of this. And then I lead it. I help them lead it. Get it.
Starting point is 00:46:17 The lady's there. However, there's no way she counted. Like, if I think about it, like, I guess she did. Legally, she did. So we took it from Japan and then the lady comes to me, the lady comes to me and she's like, hey, where do you want your, where would you like your plaques sent? And I said, what plaque?
Starting point is 00:46:37 She goes, well, you led this. So you're part of it. So my name is in the book. So my name's in, yeah. Uh-uh. And it's for the world most sparklers. Yeah. That's my confession.
Starting point is 00:46:45 That's cool, though. That's pretty cool. That's kind of cool. I want to be in the book. Yeah. I think Sean just did. No. No, this is, this is my confession for him.
Starting point is 00:46:54 He just did a Guinness book thing. Really? World's largest group shower. Oh, that's not a good one. Was it bathing suits and full nude? No, bathing in seats. But it was for Irish Springs, and it wasn't as douchy as it sounds. It was like a music.
Starting point is 00:47:17 That's a clever dude. Hey, listen, we're going to do the world's largest group show. I know. He told me that. And then, and I couldn't go because I had to watch our dog. And I was like, you have fun with that. Oh, my gosh. Rope shower.
Starting point is 00:47:31 We've got it. Sean needs to come over so you can be okay with Tuck coming to my house. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My house is perfect for Tuck. Okay. Your dog's name's Tucker, right? Yeah. I'm going to take you up on that.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We call him Tucker Doodle, but it's turned into doodle that turn into nudes that turn into little baby. Now he's just called Jeff. We don't know. Jeff is a great dog nation. I don't know where they came from. Talk's quite the character. He is a character.
Starting point is 00:47:57 He is the neediest. Yes. Most loving. But so well behaved. So sweet. He's just such a sweet boy. So cute. He loves to eat things, though.
Starting point is 00:48:07 He's not supposed to. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm telling. He's almost 11, and he's a hundred pound gold retriever. Oh, okay. And he has puppy energy. He's so playful. So playful.
Starting point is 00:48:17 He always wants to just chew your shoe still. Like, he is. Look at this. In his mind. I have a white husky shepherd oh my god But he eats so much stuff out of the yard I was gonna I was gonna oh yeah
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's because there's deer And he likes to eat their The deer poop Sean's gonna be so mad at me for For embarrassing Tucker like that But he Tucker likes to eat deer poop I don't get it I mean he was
Starting point is 00:48:40 He was all about it and he would not like I There's nothing I could do Oh he is a he is a ton of bricks Like he's yeah he weighs the same amount as me Yeah He's full of shit He is let me That was gonna be another one of my confessions
Starting point is 00:48:52 He has severe diarrhea right now. So picking up his poop is like, oh, you have to. Listen, my daughter, so I have a white husky shepherd named Riggly. Yeah. And she's beautiful. I take her everywhere with me, and she's always with me. Yes. I got her back from the trainer.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I don't know what happened during that month and a half, but when she poops. Yeah, liquid. No, it's like, it's a human, I mean, it's like a grown man after Thanksgiving. Oh, that is Tucker. That's Tucker's poop. And then the smell. Yeah. I can't.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So, Madison, Wisconsin, right? We're playing this show. I walk off the bus. I was going to go to the gym. When she, I don't know if Tucker does this, when she has to use the bathroom, she gets, like, real annoying, right? Normally she's pretty chill,
Starting point is 00:49:34 but, like, if not, she starts barking. She's like, I got to go, I got to go. So she starts getting a little annoying, and I'm like, okay, so I take her outside and it's like this beautiful day in Madison, and I didn't realize that we were right on the lake with this running trail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:45 So I take her out and I text my tour manager. I was like, hey, man, I'm not going to go to the gym. I'm just going to run Wrigley on this lake. She'd been on the bus for like a day and a half. I'm like, she's one. So she needs to get some energy out. She pees and then we're by the lake. And I'm like, I want to know she'll jump in because she's never been by the water.
Starting point is 00:50:03 So she's sitting there chilling. I'm texting him. Right? And I look over. She is, she has shit right in the middle of the bike trip. Like on the pavement? In the middle. People are dodging it.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Oh, no. Like, and I'm like, oh, God. I don't know. I have no bag. I can't leave it. Oh, no. It's 10 in the morning. You know, like, everybody's seeing it.
Starting point is 00:50:25 So I'm sitting there. I'm in a little state of panic. And I'm like, and if this thing like smells, there's going to be puke everywhere then. You know, so I had to, I mean, I just looked over. There was this leaf. There was just branch with these two big leaves. So here I am. Well, that's better than leaving it.
Starting point is 00:50:39 It was a very humbling experience. I look over and here's a tour bus. The nine that wouldn't just leave it. Right. Yeah. This is the nine. Yes. So I'm like, I'm like, crap.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Can't leave it. Literally. So I'm like, it's a very, like I said, a very humbling experience. I'm like, man, I've come so far in my life. But here I am, just picking up dog shit in the middle of Madison. So I take these two leaves and I'm just like, scro it and throw it over. I wish someone had secretly been you recorded this. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yeah. You got to do it. You got to do. My dad, that's one of the, that's probably the number one reason he hates L.A. is because he has to walk the mate around the block and pick up his shit. Yeah. And he's like, he's like the fact that I have to pick up dog. It makes me so angry.
Starting point is 00:51:19 There's nothing more humbling. He hates it. And so when he comes home to the farm, he's like, mate, just shit all over the farm. Like, I don't have to pick up. Okay, you guys. He loves it. This is weird then.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Here's a confession. You love picking it up? I just feel like I'm taking care of him. Now, I feed you. You have a beautiful house. You're in a tour bus that took me 10 years to get. It took you overnight. I take great care of you.
Starting point is 00:51:43 You love it? I don't love it. But I like. She's like. forward to it. She's like, it's satisfying, all right. It's like smelling it. I'm helping him. I'm helping the environment. I just like taking care of him.
Starting point is 00:51:56 It's called it's called taking him to the groomer. That's taken care of him. Yeah. But I do all those things. I just love him so much that I feel like I'm like, and he like, I kind of get embarrassed for him. Like he's like, you know, he's probably like, man, mom has to pick up my poop. Like that's so embarrassing. No, I think they know. They're like, yeah. He's like, pick it up. Yeah, pick it up. Pick it up. Yeah. This one's going to be good. You're going to need two bags for this. Double beggar There we go
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Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah. Target. It's great. What does it say again? Wake up hug-dog hustle. I like it. Three things I do well. Oh, I know what I was going to say, because you, are you our age?
Starting point is 00:53:47 How old are you, 30? Just turned 30, yeah. Just turn 30, okay, I'm 33. Hoof, getting up there. Excuse you. I'm not far behind. I know. But I'm like, you also grew up in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I came out with a scrunchy line. I'm in a big 90s kick. Do you know what scrunchies are? You're a man, but you have two sisters. I also, yeah. Three sisters. Actually, I grew up, that's another confession. I grew up with five sisters.
Starting point is 00:54:13 So I had two step sisters after my parents divorced, my mom, married this. are my YMCA basketball coach. Oh, there you go. Yeah. I lived an episode of Jerry Spring for about 18 years. Hey, it got to where you are. It really helped. Yeah, got me where I am.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Four of us picking up dog in Madison, Wisconsin. So, yeah, so I had two step sisters, one was my age, one of my little sister. There's two older sisters in my little stuff, all five girls, so. I'm highly aware what a scrunchy is. Caitlin's are cute. I'll give your sisters some if they want some. send them i love scrunchies i always have it so i'm like why don't i come out with my own but i'm a big 90s kick right now like i'm fanny packs are coming back yeah same your shoes always 90s
Starting point is 00:54:57 always 90s were just so great i mean anyone who if you grew up in the 60s you're like no 60s oh yeah you know but 90s but i think everybody i think everybody can agree that 90s were the best i think so too tv shows were so great tv shows were great music was everybody was rich like everybody It's so true, and nobody had, there's no social media, everybody was happy. Like, it was like, hey, I'm going to ride my bike, okay, be home before the lights, come on. Exactly. I love the old school, like 90s vibes. So I have some 90s questions for you.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Okay. The only 90s thing I can't get down with is the low-rise denim. Nope, can't get down. Why did we ever do that? I did get down with it. I did too, and I rocked them. Like, why? Another confession, I accidentally bought a pair of those.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I think of a dude's pants one time. Oh, and they were females. And I went, well, I was like, hey, this is fit. And then, and I went in a pocket could barely fit, like, we're like condom pockets. You know, I'm like, why would they make these? Oh, yeah, yeah. And then my sister was like,
Starting point is 00:55:53 Those are girls' jeans. Dude, I think he bought girls' pants. Well, that used to be a thing. It was a thing. You never got in on that? No, hell no. My brother, Trace, he bought girls, Hollister jeans all through high school. My tour manager, who was my drummer, he was in punk rock bands all through Orlando.
Starting point is 00:56:08 He wore nothing but girl pants. Oh, yeah, girl skinny jeans. That's what true makes us. And they, and like, and the carabiners oh yeah with all your with all your
Starting point is 00:56:16 tour yeah which you would never on tour none of us none of us had enough fans to need a
Starting point is 00:56:23 I've never heard of that yeah the carabiner and then with all the keys yeah it was like you want to show off I mean I still have a
Starting point is 00:56:30 carabiner on my keys do you so does my yeah so is my tour no that's no 90s you keep that
Starting point is 00:56:35 I mean it's so easy you just clip it it's just brandy and I are gonna start you can have your scrunchies we'll have a carabiner we'll have a
Starting point is 00:56:42 being interviewed. Okay. Cool. Cool. We can we can collab. We can collab. Who is your 90s crush? Topanga? Yes. Yeah. Topanga and Kelly Kapowski. One of my scrunchies is called the Kelly Kapowski. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Mine was Paul Walker, I think. Oh, me too. I watched She's All That Last Night and I got emotional. Because I was like, RIP, that is tragic. It was such a sad thing.
Starting point is 00:57:09 That is so sad. He was such a consistent. Babe, like through the 90s and 2000s, like very consistent, yeah. Yes, very badass. That's a goal. Oh, Paul Walker, that's a good one. Legitimately had his poster on my wall, so. I did too. Him, JTT and Andrew Keegan.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I wasn't that with the JTT. JTT. JTT was like too good. Blonde? Oh, I don't know. I liked the blondes. Too blonde. Yeah, it wasn't down with the blondes.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I will never forget a dream I had when I was in the fifth grade that he was an astronaut and he came and picked me up out of my seat. and held me and carried me out of my portable that I went had my grave or you guys say fifth grade in Canada we say grade five um and he picked me up and left and I remember waking up crying because it was real yeah that's a vivid that is very vivid you don't forget that but then I met him when I was working in Vancouver and I was like oh want won't disappointed he was short but he was not friendly no now I get it because I'm like well after he did simba I mean that's a big role yeah you know he was cocky yeah
Starting point is 00:58:12 I'd be cocky, too, if I didn't send it. Yeah, absolutely. That was a voice of a generation. He was the cartoon voice of our generation. Okay, what was my other question? Oh, favorite 90s TV show. Oh, that's hard. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Mine's full house. Hang on, can we talk about, can we bring back TGIF? It was honestly. That whole segment was my favorite family matters, full house. Step by step. Step by step. They swapped. Sometimes it was Sabrina Teenage Rich.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I loved the Wonder Years. Boy Meets World. That was my favorite, probably. I love Boy Meets World. I bought the entire, we were on the bus one day on this long ride and we were talking about 90s TV shows. And step by step is one like full house, obviously, this is a big resurgence, you know, and like Boy Meets World still comes on at night and like all those other, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:59 great TV shows, even like, even like Seinfeld, like all of them, friends, all of that. Still on. But like step by step, you can't find, right? I don't know. But I bought the entire, I bought every episode, right? And it's never showed up to my house. Oh, did it? Well, I got a little.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I'm life hack for you. It's on YouTube. Oh. I've watched it. Oh. Yeah. Life hack. Life hack, step by steps on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:59:21 That's amazing. Okay, favorite 90s band. Mine was Nirvana. Oh, man. And Backstreet Boys, very different. I think mine was Matchbox 20. I really liked Bush X. Rob Thomas was the man.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Oh, yeah. I'm up to agree with you on that. I'm freaking love Rob Thomas. Yeah. I mean, I grew up on a majority of like real traditional country music. Yeah. And for me, like, I was middle school that people were, like, buying, like, the new, like, you know, Incubus record or whatever. And I was, like, buying, like, the American Rejects.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Oh. Yeah, I was buying, like, the Earl Thomas Conley's greatest hit. So, like, I was, like, the weird kid. That's awesome. Yeah, but that's great. I like, I was a weird kid, though, like, I don't know. Like, he's not, he wasn't just pop, though. Like, I feel like he's skewed, like, in the different genres, for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah. That whole, that whole, just that whole era of music was fantastic. I'm trying to think I've had a band name on the tip of my tongue I just lost it It was when we talked about incubus I was like oh and now I forgot
Starting point is 01:00:19 Oh third eye blind I loved I still love third eye blind Their lyrics are genius He is so deep The Gougoodalls too Oh Gougoodle's great Oh my gosh
Starting point is 01:00:30 Who is your guys 90s fashion idol Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen Same Still to this day I love them I know To this day, I take pictures of their hair
Starting point is 01:00:42 They're like grun chic Yeah They're like grun chic wait Where do you go for your hair Allie Ryan at the dry house Oh she's awesome Is she? Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:49 But she just does bloods or does she do color And great awesome guy cuts Yeah she does she really Yeah She does like every guy I have a hair appointment after this I go to Jeremy at parlor three Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:00:59 I've heard things about parlor three Yeah yeah he's awesome I don't know I feel like dudes didn't have like the fat I mean like A.C. Slater was cool Oh yeah What about MC Hammer? Did you ever get into the MC Hammer pants?
Starting point is 01:01:13 Negative. No, I tried Jinkos for a day. What is that? I had Jinkos. The big baggy pants. My parents, this was actually kind of sick and cruel. So I growing up like very country, like for whatever reason, this goes back to, I guess I'd be in a nine. I was like, I want to be cool.
Starting point is 01:01:32 You don't even know the test. You don't even know. What if you're not a nine? He might not be. I'm going to change right. I'm like, damn it, Brandy, this whole time I thought it was a nine. I'm a seven. I don't you know what that is.
Starting point is 01:01:40 You've, like, lost your identity. Now I'm even more. Now I really don't know who I am. You might be a seven, actually. You never know. So, like, my parents let me get them one time. I was like, you know, come on, I want, these are cool. My dad's like, you like an idiot.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And they let me, and then we were walking around Walmart. My pants fell right to my ankles. And that was, I was right back to Ranglers. Walmart. Right after that. Straight back. You didn't have Jankos? Maybe I did.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Did you ever get into, like, when Averill were, like, dudes shorts? Avril were, like, dudes shorts? And she was like my hero. Dude, I wore boys cargo shorts for American Eagle. Solid two years. I was, I had a crush on Avrilavine until my little sister started looking just like her. And I was like, I can't. You're like, I got to move on.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I got to move on. Topanga. Topanga. Yeah, she's a baby. I would say, I don't know if you, but there wasn't really a guy that was a fashion trend, right? I mean, am I not thinking of one? Like everybody had like, yeah, like the baggy your shirts. Like, Boy Meets World had like the baggy sweaters.
Starting point is 01:02:37 you know I don't know I loved baggy jeans I went through a huge stater phase well I saw the ones you put on your Instagram yesterday the drop crotch ones
Starting point is 01:02:46 or the other day I was like I like I like people were like people were hating on them even my friends my friends who I haven't talked to since like high school were reaching out
Starting point is 01:02:53 being like down where I thought oh my gosh I wanted to be like if you know one those I'll take them I actually love them I'm wearing them
Starting point is 01:02:57 I mean they're a little they're like not dumpy enough yeah so you just need to like pull them down a little more but then they become low rise Yeah, I've got a 90s joke for you
Starting point is 01:03:09 Let's hear it Why did Snoop Dog carry an umbrella We all know this one, don't we? For drizzle Oh wow That landed I didn't think that was going to land That's actually good
Starting point is 01:03:23 Really? That's good, it's good Okay Wait, I've got another one for you I had a broken vacuum But then I put a back street boy's sticker on it And it suddenly sucked again I don't like that joke
Starting point is 01:03:34 Because I have a big BSB guy You like their new single? I do. You don't? No. It's like retro. It's not as good as our old stuff. Well, it never will be.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I know. You just have to go. You have to listen to it with that mentality, knowing it will never be what it used to be. It's no shape in my heart, okay? Great tongue. Great song. But it has that vibe. And that was a couple skate go-to.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Yeah. It was a what? Or, no, what was it? Hang on, I'm having, I'm not the, who had to quit playing games. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wait. Aren't you going to play this song?
Starting point is 01:04:06 Well, okay, so my guitar has got it, the label. I just heard you singing, I'm like, wait a sec. But, yeah, did y'all go to Friday night roller skates? Was that a thing here? Oh, yeah. Not in Canada. No? Do you all ice skate?
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yes. I figure skated for like eight years. Really? Yeah. Yeah, Florida, not a lot of ice skating. No, we blade down here. Is that what you call it? Bladen?
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah, we be bladen. We blade down here in the south. We be blading. We be blading, Evan, no, no, that's what I don't know why. Like doing the limbo and then the dice game when you roll. Oh, everybody's at the corner. Wait, we can still do this, guys, like at Browood's Gate Center. I'm down.
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Starting point is 01:05:55 What did she smell like? She smelled great. She was awesome. Like what? Flowers or musty? Flowers. Flowers. Confidence.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Oh, yep, I picture that. A great perfume. Okay. Lop brandy. Thanks. My last question, nothing to do with the 90s. What's your favorite song on the album? My favorite song on the album.
Starting point is 01:06:15 The new single that comes out July 2nd is called One They Got Away. In the middle of this record, went through a pretty big breakup. I didn't see coming, so there's some songs on there. Like jokes on you. I'm about to have a number one song from this. Are you good for wine? Do you want a little extra sip? Yeah, rosé.
Starting point is 01:06:33 He's like, now I do. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. I'm just kidding. I'm like, I know how to fix this. Honestly, there's a song on there called Her World or Mine, which is probably the songs like that is what made me fall in love with country music going back to what we were talking about earlier, just that real and honesty and that you just kind of, some songs just like
Starting point is 01:06:49 are meant to kind of just put you in that story. And so that's probably my favorite song on the whole record, but. I'm going to listen. I'm going to go listen. I'm going to go listen. I assumed you already did, but I was wrong. You know what? Well, I listened to a.
Starting point is 01:07:03 a lot. I'm kidding. I was actually listening to it on my way. Her one of mine's my favorite. Thank you. Yeah. I was listening on my way over here. I listened to a lot, actually. Oh, you did? Oh, you did? I like fan girl. Thank you. Yeah. That song, that was one of the first songs we cut, because I felt like if I was to give, someone's never seen one of my shows and was going to go, hey, play me one song that just kind of puts me at your show. That's the, that's the song I wanted to play. You played that at the opera, right? No, no, no. I played the new single. I feel like I saw on YouTube or something. Oh, well, okay, so the grand old opera.
Starting point is 01:07:36 What you saw, what you saw was the first time. So the grand old opery is hands down my favorite place in the world. Oh. I love every, like I grew up watching old VHS is when my grandfather studying them, studying old, just old, the old skits, the old, everything, right? Yeah. I play it for the 30th time on June 3rd. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:56 And it's literally like, I go there early. I take it all in. Like every time, like it's something I don't take lightly. So at 15 minutes, like you're on there, like, you're not just like representing yourself and your music, but there's a lot of boots and heels that stood in that circle that got you there, you know? And so, like, there's a lot of history that goes into it. And the fact that it's, that it's something that, like, you get invited to play. It's an honor. You know, like, it's not like your book and age. It's like, hey, Michael's Free Saturday. Yeah. Like, it's, it's, for me, that's, that's the, that's the biggest thing I'll ever do. Yeah. So this, I mean, and you've saw a Master's Square Garden. The Grandad Opera is probably still going to beat it. You know, like, honestly, God, like, from me. And so the Opry was kind enough to let us be the first to ever debut a record. Wow. From the Grandad Opry.
Starting point is 01:08:41 That's amazing. Or do a premiere, I guess, I should say, of the record. And so it was one of the coolest moments. Actually, it will always probably be the coolest moment, no matter what I do. Yeah. Because for me, my grandfather never got to see me play the Opry. So he passed away June, or February 4th. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 And then I got an email three weeks later. That was, hey, pick your Opry debut date. And for me and him, it was always like, well, hey, if you ever get a chance, If I ever get a chance to play the opera, like, you're obviously going to be there with me. He was. He was, like, three weeks away. So it was, like, a very bittersweet, like, moment of, like, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:11 So I picked the date closest to his birthday. His birthday is April 26th. It was, I picked April 24th. Yeah. It was a day. And I got to debut with his guitar that he played for 60 years. Wow. And I did an old song.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Whoa, that he, uh, that, him and I, that the family band played together. Wow. Wow. So I bring Green Green Gras at Home, Porter Wagner's version of it. And so after naming the album, Amis and, and, kind of, you know, being able to play the Opry as much as much we have, they were kind
Starting point is 01:09:36 enough to let me be the first to a premiere record. And it was very intimate, maybe 70 people in the whole Opry. Wow. And so, we go out there and, like, it hit me that this is the first time. Yeah. And 90 years of the Grand Prix, it was the first time. And then, like, I saw my grandpa's name everywhere. And so for me, it was like, he made his debut, like, we did it, you know?
Starting point is 01:09:53 And then I cried, like, a baby all over the world. Okay, I, I, like, don't know you. And I'm, like, holy shit, that is special. So that was, that was probably the best. moment. No kidding. Wow. That's cool. That is incredible. I think that's where you heard Fang Girl. I was trying to think how I just got to that big deep thing. No, I think so you know I'm telling you my issues from third grade. No, we already know those braces. They didn't come till fifth. Oh, okay. Sorry. Don't get me started on my awkward ears. Oh, yes. I'm like still in them.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah. I'm still in mine. That's what makes you charming. I think it's charming. Okay, so we got to wrap up, But where can people find you? Tell us all the deets so that everyone can listen and follow you and all the good stuff. It's all Michael Ray music. Oh, perfect. So Michael Ray music, Instagram, Twitter. Actually, Facebook's music, Michael Ray, for whatever reason. So whoever the jerk is that has Michael Ray music on it, Facebook.
Starting point is 01:10:49 But, and then it's all over iTunes, Spotify. iTunes, Spotify, the records all over, you know, YouTube, Pandora, wherever you, however you listen to your music, it's all over there. Okay. But Michael Ray music. It's all me. And I'm not asking you for iTunes gift cards or money. So, blue check. There you all have these dudes, the fake accounts?
Starting point is 01:11:09 Yeah. The what? You all have the fake accounts hitting fans up for shit? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Probably. There is one. I know.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I've been sending you iTunes gift cards for two months. What are you talking about like not having or something about blue check mark? Is that what he said? Yeah. They're all fake accounts and they're hitting up fans for like money. Yeah. That's crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:32 How do people... People think that it's us. That's insane. It's happening all over the place of multiple people. Okay, well... But Michael Ray Music, Blue Check, Mark. Got to have that Blue Check. Don't be...
Starting point is 01:11:42 Don't be stupid. Get that Blue Chip. Yeah. You got to. Okay, well, I'm going to end it with this. It's not good. I just haven't, like, it was still on my screen from like... First Corinthians 13.
Starting point is 01:11:54 No, it's just a 90s saying. Oh, let's hear it. Because I like, you got to end it with a little 90s vibe. Yeah, got to. despite what you may have been told by a certain girl group, if you want to be my lover, please do not get with my friends. I'm Caitlin. I'm Caitlin Rose.
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