Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Nicole ‘Snooki’ Polizzi & Joey Camasta | Friendship, Fame & Life After Jersey Shore!

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

#946. Nicole Polizzi (Snooki) is here with her real-life best friend Joey Camasta—and we get into how they actually met, why their friendship works, and why Nicole still gets jealous when he hangs out with other people.We also talk through Nicole’s two decades on Jersey Shore—from what she tells her kids now (yes, “mommy’s an actress”) to why she can’t watch reality TV the same way anymore.She also shares what it feels like heading into the final season of Jersey Shore: Family Vacation as that chapter starts to close… and what could be next.Nicole also opens up about her recent health journey, why she chose to share it publicly, and the message she hopes other women take from it.And Joey gets into his hair transplant and gives Kaitlyn a reality check on what it’s really like living in the ‘big apple.’If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE!Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these AMAZING deals!Knix: So head to KNIX.com and use code VINE15 for 15% off your order.Zenni Optical: Go to ZENNI.COM/PODCAST and use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order. DirecTV: Go to directv.com/genrepacks and sign up today to get MyEntertaiment for just $34.99 a month.Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on your car insurance!Apartments.com: The place to find a place!EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: (0:27) How Nicole & Joey met—and how it turned into a real friendship(17:40) Nicole on the wild Wendy Williams moment while she was pregnant (26:26) What Nicole tells her kids she does for work (“mommy’s an actress”)(36:26) Nicole opens up about her health journey and what comes nextSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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You were, because you were your makeup artist. Yes. What year was this? 2010, 12? Nine? Nine, maybe. Oh, my gosh. So you guys have been through a lot together.

Like, obviously, like having kids, health journeys, like, all relationship stuff. What is something that would surprise everybody about your friendship? I feel like we're an open book, so. Yeah. Nothing. No, we're very, we get very emotional and we cry to each other a lot. Yes. Like, we love crying and sending each other crying pictures.

Like, the last one I cried. When you just leave your dog. Oh, I left Rocky at my dog at the pet hotel because I had to go to cheer. And I dropped him off, and he was, like, scared to go when the lady had to, like, all him. And I was like, bye, like, pretending him all good. And I get in the car and I broke down, like hysterically crying. Aw. So then I sent Joey a picture.

We send each other crying pictures and it's like we, it's not a good hang if we don't like hysterically cry or make a speech or just do something that's emotionally draining. Like we like it's just it's like unsfilled. Oh, I also love doom and gloom. Yep. That's so funny. My girlfriend and I do that. Actually, my sister and I do that a lot where we send each other crying photos. And it's like so funny because you're literally in the middle of a breakdown.

I do this on the internet too. I'm like, like yeah. I do it all the time. But I do that with my sister. And I feel like it's a bonding. thing and then you You get it out and then you move on. Yeah.

We didn't have videotapes back in the day to record ourselves crying. Now these teenagers now can do it all the for attention all the time. Also you are having a little glow up. I think you. Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah, calm down.

Well, I exclusively eat at C-rated health restaurants just so I can stay sick and you know, lose all the weight. I can't. I'm doing, you're getting malnourished. I'm doing the snacks. I'm doing the parricis.

The parasites, the peptides, the peptides, the parasites, the, you know, the self-tanners, the hair transplants. Oh, did you get a hair transplants? Yes. I want to get one. Dr. Chutella, he'll do it for you. In the city? He'll do it in the Jersey.

My hair is like always my biggest insecurity. I was like, your hair is always so iconic, by the way. It's thick, though. Yeah, I know. That's what I want. It's like a lot to maintain. That's why I cut it so short. But would you rather have thin hair?

No, I agree. I'm like wildly insecure about my thin hair. And I want a transatlore. one. Oh, it's the best thing ever. Okay. You can wash and go. He's the best. Really? Yes, you don't have to go to Turkey. And he's, that's my thing. I'm like, why does everyone go to Turkey? It's,

I don't know, cheap, I guess, but. Yeah. Oh. What was the hardest part of getting a hair transplant? Honestly, the numbing. Like, once the numbing hurts the worst. Like, everything, after you're numb, it's a free, like, you know, you don't feel a thing. Yeah. Okay. The needles are numbing.

When they have to numb your scalp, like, yeah, that hurts. Okay. Yeah. But then after that you don't feel anything. And then the other part is just having to sleep upstairs. Like, I was sleeping upright for like two weeks. It's like prop yourself up. So like all the. For two weeks?

I mean. Oh, then your face gets bruised. Yeah, because all the like. Oh, and then yeah, your face swells and you get like a, you look like a jellyfish. Yeah. And you look like you got a facelift too because you're all your bruising and swelling. Yeah. And then how long does it take to actually grow back?

It takes like a year. Oh, shit. To fully grow. What did you do yours? I did my last February. Oh, I kind of remember this now. Yeah. Because you posted about it.

Yeah. Yeah. It was sick. I want to do like under here. Under here and like bring it down. Would they have to shave though? Just a little area underneath they'll do for you. I'd have to shave.

Just a tiny bit. Yeah, I feel like you have to like make sure you have a break. And then does it grow back the same as what your other hair? Like it won't grow back all thick and curly under the two spots that I do it at and it'll grow back the same as my regular. I think it grows. But yeah. It's your same hair. Same hair, yeah.

It's your follicles. He's just placing it in different places. Okay. I'm like, can try not to get the gray ones? And because if the gray is then you got all gray in the front. I'm starting to go gray. Are you guys going gray? You're not.

I am. Oh, you are. Yeah, I'm plucking like four grays. You don't pluck. Well, I don't want them. But isn't it if you pluck, you get two times more? That's a wise tale. Oh.

Oh, no, lady's, old wives tail. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I just pluck them out. Oh, God. I go to Rita Hazon for my color. You go to where? Beyonce's hair colorist.

Stop. Mm-hmm. Here in the city? Yes, you have to go see her. She does Jessica Simpson. She does Jessica Simpson. She does J-Lo. She does...

Have you heard of Jenna Perry? No, I haven't. Oh, she's a really good good... Is that who does yours? No, but I want to go to her. You know. Imagine it was mine and I'm sitting here going how orange my hair looks. I'm really...

I'm really thrown off by how orange it looks at that. I don't even see that. Okay. It's the lighting. You're fine. Anyways. Should we talk about the elephant in the room that you didn't like me before? So I didn't not like you.

I always liked you, but I get jealous when he hangs out with you more than once. Like, you guys were hanging out for like two weeks straight. I'm like, let's go over it now. We did go on a bit of a terror. But that I was jealous. Well, okay, that I will accept because that's honest and I love honesty. Like we don't like sharing each other. She can't have another gay guy.

He gets so mad at me. Oh. Absolutely not. I'm the same way with my best friend. She just came here. She's in Nashville. And like I almost didn't move to New York because I'm like she's going to get a new friend. And I are.

And she already is. And they have the same age kids. And I super jealous. Oh, that's the weird. Yeah. It really is. I understand that. Okay, good. Yeah, I don't like sharing.

But yeah, she was sour in the GM. She goes, go be with her. Yeah, so go be with her then. Like, we got to. And then I followed you and you didn't follow me back so I unfollowed you again. Stop. Yeah. I didn't even realize.

This is girlhood. Yeah. We're just airing it all out here. Yeah, well, now we're friends. Yeah. Okay, good. Because I'm coming to your dinner tonight and I'm very excited. Yeah, I invited you.

So. I did get the invite, but my, ask my girlfriend, Kat, that I was just talking about. She gets so mad at me. She's like, you. never know what's going on in your own life. And like trying to plan anything with me is so impossible because I also think I committed to three different things tomorrow night. There's somebody, do you know Kelsey Knight? Yes. She, her, um, husband is like a manager for some music people. I should know their names because you want me to go to. And it's a moff,

but it's tonight. Oh. So I, and I committed to that also while thinking I had, and I told her I have a gala. I can't make it. I'm done. So you're mixing your days up. All the time. And that's so me, and I have an assistant that helps me with scheduling. So I don't know what my excuse is. So you know what I do? I have a physical calendar. And I write everything down. Because I can't do the Google Docs.

I can't do the electronic shit. Like I need to physically write it down like we're in 19. Yeah. So then I look at my calendar and I see everything that I have. Okay. Yeah. And can you guys give me advice for living in the city? Because I've, I asked my last guess.

I said, how many rats am I allowed to see before I was viral? You saw one the other day. I can't do it. Birds and the rats. You had a cockroach. I had roaches and rats. I mean, I've been here forever. So it's like, wait until a mouse crawls on your bed across your face.

I would burn the place down. Yeah. I mean, you won't happen to your house because you're rich, but it's like normal people growing up. It's like it's a badge of honor when the rat crawls across your bed when you're sleeping. I, it's like an experience. I started catching them. You had that? For sport.

I never lived here. but in Jersey it's different because she lives in a mansion oh yeah well the backlin movie theater mom I'm not so you're on the street but then it comes endearing

like it becomes fun it's like because they you know especially when you're drunk like when I get drunk I like to like play with them people with the land like I had a homeless lady that lived in a corridor by my house named Florence and I would get wasted

and just sit there with her and chain smoke cigarettes she died she's definitely dead remember she died so so I would sit there and then the rats it's like you know your pets at this, you know, when you're, when you're, when you're long, like, your boyfriend, like, breaks up with you and you're crying on the street, like,

in your 20s, it's like, it's like, the rats are the whole you have. And then you would like, like, oh, come here and you feel like, you know, motherly. I'll get used to that. I literally want to start smoking. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, try it for a little bit. I smoked a cigarette yesterday morning with my coffee. I want, like, a skinny mangle.

Yes. I have an herb garden now. Now, how are you been getting around? Are you taking Uber's? Yes, which I get bad car sickness. The Uber's here are like, if I get in a Tesla one more time. Those Teslas. hate a Tesla. I'm not being

bougie, but it's like if you're requesting an Uber black we had to roll up to, I'm not even kidding you, we rolled up to the VMA's red carpet and a Tesla because we called a black car and it was, we were running late and that's what showed up. We couldn't wait for 10 minutes. I'm like, how do you open the goddamn door? I hate a Tesla and they make me feel so sick. I'm not in the back.

That's not a black car. That's literally a roller skate, the remote control roller skate. Get out of here with that. That's, oh my gosh, my girlfriend, Cleo, one time called us an Uber and we were going to Carly Closs's party and like it was like they were all at the front. I did just do that. No, I love it. But this is what's humble about it. We showed up in like a Honda Civic. See that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That would be us. And I was like. And probably close at

ew. And then these losers. You guys were a pity invite anyway. It's supermodels only here. Yeah. No, you don't even go here. It wasn't. And then I showed up in a Honda Civic. It was quite embarrassing. But I just feel like New York. I'm so like soft from being Canadian. But then I'm even softer for moving to Nashville because it's like land and quiet and peace and like I'm like all about sacred energy and then I come here and I'm like, you're definitely getting mugged and someone's going to steal your purse. Oh my God. Somebody told me.

They're getting randomly punched. Yeah. She's definitely getting punched. She's going to be the frazzled Canadian girl. Oh, I'm sorry. Should I be carrying pepper spray in my purse? Yes. Yeah.

Free a gun. Oh, my gosh. My God. A blade. Okay. No, you live in a nice, upscale neighborhood. and you're going to be, you have a dorm man, I'm sure.

I don't reach any more living here after. You're going to be fine. It's going to toughen you up. Okay. Well, that I will say, I'm excited to get a little more like rough and tough from the city. Yeah, like a boss such a fraud. I always act like I'm such a like badass and I'm not at all. I'm not.

I'm such a like little wimp. And you'll be an East Coast girl soon. Oh gosh. I'm scared. Anyways, tell me about your guys' podcast. Do you like revamping it? What are you doing? Yes.

It's new and improved. Okay. Tell me. So we've been we've been slum in it for about 12 years now. Because when we started our podcasts, we were in the first celebrity podcast. Yes. When it first came out,

there's like three of them. It was the girls next door from, Playboy Mansion. It was us and then like Heather McDonald. There's the first three. Nobody had a podcast yet. The first three. That's crazy.

I remember when I started mine was eight years ago and I was like, oh, what's this new podcast thing about? And I remember you had one. It was obviously with you, but I didn't know you yet. Yeah. And the lady gang, which was Kelty. Yes, Kelty Nightly.

Yes. And I remember being like, what is a podcast all about? Because growing up, I always wanted my own radio show. And I was like, well, this is exactly like that. Yeah, literally. Okay, so then what did you guys talk about back then? So we didn't have, it wasn't videos back then. It was just audio only.

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You're both entertaining separately and then together it's like a whole other thing. And you think we're too big personalities would clash, but we don't. What are your signs? It's like we never clash. Capricorn and Saj. Yeah. Okay. I love a...

You're a Capricorn? Yes. Oh, I love Capricorns. What are you? I'm Gemini. Okay. I don't know a lot about Sagittarius. Oh, we're boss bitches.

Oh, I love that. Spontaneous, too. Very spontaneous. Very spontaneous. We're a fire sign. Okay. Yeah, everything makes sense about me. Yes.

As a Saj. Okay. And then, I mean, how long has Jersey Shore been on me, by the way? Since 2009. Holy shit. I know. I mean, that's crazy. It's the most, like.

iconic reality show. It's the longest running, I would say, of like... Yes, with the same recurring cast. Right. We never switched. Because, like, Bachelor is always someone different, knew everything. You guys have had the same. To keep that dynamic and then still be doing it to this day is the craziest thing. Now, I always said if I was filmed in my 20s, in my party days, like, I would have been canceled. But you guys got so celebrated and everybody saw themselves in you. And what is... Well, we got a lot of hate. Okay, so we got hate for a while

But like what was the hate like back then Was it on like threads on like There was it, it was only Twitter There was no Instagram back then Twitter just came out So social media wasn't really a thing But I mean the news like hated us Like I mean the fans loved us

But like the outlets and everyone Just talked massive shit about us So how did you get through Like did it affect you then Does it affect you now? How did you? Because you've stayed true to yourself And that's really hard to do in that world

Yeah I've seen so many people changed just from going on The Bachelor once. You stayed true to yourself. How have you done that over the years with that much criticism? I feel like just our personalities and how strong we were. We never really cared what anybody thought. I love that. We were like, this is us.

Yeah. And, you know, the show is working because we're being ourselves. So just keep being ourselves. Don't care what anyone is saying. Yeah. And that's it. That's, I mean, if only, we could all think like that. Yeah. I mean, some stuff, it's like, oh, that hurt. But I mean... Well, it must be hard. Well, I remember the one time I did try and change my image, remember Wendy Williams?

Yes. Tell me more. I wore like this because was it before I was a mom or no? Yes. Maybe it was after. I don't remember. You tried to reinvent. Yeah, I tried to be more classier and it just wasn't working.

Like I was like talking proper and she was like you're acting different. Wendy Williams said that? She has sport length now. And after that I was like, that was not me. Never again. That's like hard to do. That's awesome. So I tried to like mature myself overnight.

which would take like a process. So I just let it ride. But I did try and be so classy and it did not work. What is it like getting called out by Wendy Williams? She was wild. She was intimidating for sure. She made you drink when you were pregnant.

She made you drink when you were? Well, she was secretly pregnant. Well, she heard there was a rumor that I was pregnant. So she made you? She brought out beer for me and Jenny. And she goes, well, let's see if you're pregnant. Like so crazy. And I was like, that.

And we saw her in Target two weeks later and you shunned her. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's like some, like, I feel like Ellen DeGeneres was secretly a bully. Not secretly anymore. Everyone thinks she is now. But if you look back on the clip, she's saying like really nasty things to people. Yeah. But like everyone's laughing.

Like it's a joke. I know. And she would like take their biggest insecurities and fears. She was like the tire of banks of like daytime TV. Yeah. It's crazy. And would just like put their fears right in front of them and laugh so hard. And I was like, that's so mean.

Do you know what I just found out about you? What? They were talking about you on a podcast the other day. And I was like, that's my friend. Stop talking about my friend. Oh, God. On your season of Bachelorette, no, on her season of The Bachelorette, you know, there was two Bacheloretts originally, and then the boys all had to vote on who they liked better. And then the other one got, had to go home and got kicked off. That night really? Yeah. Did you know that we didn't do that? Yeah. I almost, well, I said no at the beginning because I was like, I'm not doing that. First of all, like her and I were so different. And we were like, not enemies, but we weren't like super tight. We just, we liked each other. But I was like, she voted. Yeah. Did you have to. Did you have to. Did you? Did you have to. Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did. Did you? Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did she? Did she? Did she have a plan in your own head to win like you're like I'm going to be extra sluggier or extra like extra like

like to get this bitch out of here so I can win you had to have yeah I was definitely trying to be more hot charm and like trying yeah yeah because because we're so different I was like this like more edgy tattooed um like Canadian and she was more girl next door typical bachelorette like more like on the religious side and so we were so different that I was like well I'm gonna really just put on my edgy charm and like if those guys are here for her then like we would never work out anyway but what I really negotiated was the contract because I was like if I go home I still want money Oh yeah

And they were like no we thought you were in it for love I'm like well I'm not I'm definitely in it for money Yeah if I fall in love bonus Wasn't Colton Underwood trying to go with you Was he on your season? No he was after me Oh

He was it's so what do you guys think about this Gabby Windy Love Gabby Wendy I'm obsessed with her Yeah She always says she had a whisper that she was gay Like there's a little going on that she was gay

but she goes on the Bachelorette has all these men like whatever and then Colton does it comes out and everyone's like you how did you go over that many women It's the curse She didn't get that though No everyone celebrated

I was glad because I'm glad she got celebrated for coming out and not you know But it was interesting dynamic that Colton got absolutely shit on for many things but for the one thing that he came out as gay and then put all those women through it

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I'm like, he's too pretty and put together. I mean, he was hot. So handsome. So handsome and so tall and so charming. But I think there's a few bachelor people out there that are still closeted. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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Because I think there's always a bachelor person on... Oh, yeah, who was on yours? Was there a bachelor person from... Oh, God, I don't remember. Who's... Remember there was Christina Million. Oh. Corbin-Lia Riemony.

Lear Remini. That's when she came out with all the sign talk. Dr. Phil. Dr. Phil? Oh, Dr. Drew. A Bill Nye, the Science guy. That's who it. Our cast is great.

Oh, I saw... She won it. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. So hard. But wait, were you at the reunion when everybody was there for like the 25th anniversary? No, I wanted to go, but I was filming.

Okay, because now that you said that, I was like, wait, Bill Nye was there. And I remember geeking out so hard that Bill Nye, but everyone was geeking out very hard. One of the ones I was at because Dylan Efron's brother, Zach Efron. Yeah. He was so good. He was sitting right across from me and I was like, I love Zach Evern so much. Yeah. But did you find that show so hard to be on?

Oh, it was so hard. It was draining. But I loved it. Yeah, that's how... It was like one of my best experiences. Yes, that's how I feel. And as someone who's been in the game for so long on reality TV, do you watch other reality TV shows? Like, what's your guilty pleasure show? I mean, I do love Love is Blind. You do. When that comes out, I'm watching it right away. Yeah. But not really all the other shows. I feel like reality's ruined for me. Yeah. Because I can tell if it's set up. I could tell if like a producer goes over it and says something to them. I could just tell if it's a producer goes over it and says something to them. I could just tell if it's a not genuine or someone's not acting like themselves or they're trying too hard to like be the main character. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes. So as a reality star, it does ruin it for me.

But that's kind of like our world on social media too. Like everybody's trying so hard to be somebody on social media, which is also draining. But yeah, that's, I even, I mean, I had one year experience on, not even a year. I was The Bachelorette and then I was on The Bachelor and it changed how I watched shows. So I can't imagine. and consistent because you've seen behind the curtain with so many things. And actually the show that I just did was the same production company that does Jersey Shore and does your show. 495? Yeah.

Oh. Yeah. I feel like Jersey Shore is like the most iconic. You are the most iconic out of everyone, in my opinion, from the show. And you've just created such a cool life for yourself and like now a mom of three. Does it does how is the dynamic of having kids starting to figure out like that you're a reality? icon. Like, are they like Well, my oldest, obviously, you know, my youngest

is six, so he has no idea what's going on. Yeah. But they know what I do and they hate when I leave. Because when I do leave, it's like for four or five days. So they hate when I go for work. Yeah. But I mean, they know Jersey Shore, they see it on TikTok. But it's like the old episodes before I was a mom. So it's like me getting arrested on the beach.

I tell them that I'm an actress. And I'm like, they made me do that. It's not real. But then my oldest son, like he's 14. so he sees me after a couple of glasses of wine. She's like, Mom, that's how you accidentally drink. She finds vodka bottles under her bed. Well, how much of Jersey Shore was like, not scripted, obviously, but like set up? None of it.

And I believe that because there's so many shows where, like, even Summer House, with all the drama going on right now, I'm like, gosh, it's, it must be so crazy because we still don't know everything. A Summerhouse person is coming tonight, I think. Oh, there is two of them. Who? I don't remember their names, but it's not the scandalous couple. I need to watch that show. It's not of the fourth scandal people right now. That show, because I feel like it's kind of similar to like they're partiers.

They're going out all the time. They're like trying to make it kind of like a Jersey Shore, but it's like in the Hamptons. But I keep wondering, I'm like, there's the whole dynamic of Sierra, obviously, who is with West. And now he's not even with Amanda, but they were having something behind the back. But I'm like, everybody at home. I talked with this on my last podcast, fills in the gaps of what they already think. And then they put their own story together.

And on reality TV, I'm sure that's happened to you a million times where people just fill in their own gaps of who you are and what you do. And then I'm like, do you care to ever... Because I'm like, Sierra's just obviously taking the high road. She's such a queen.

And she's getting brand deals out of it and going to the Met Gala. And she's going to be on Dancing with the Stars. And she's going to be on Dancing with the Stars. And I'm like, yes. But also at what point does Amanda and West come out and be like, but this is actually what happened? Or do they just stay silent?

Like when people are making up their own stories about you, do you just let them or do you go on social media and be like, no, this is actually how it is. I feel like that's never happened to me. Really? Yeah. Right? About not relationship wise. I mean, if anything, you know, it's more about her. But like assumptions?

Hmm. I feel like no. That's amazing. Yeah. She's so real. She never puts a facade on. She doesn't have to. She celebrates who she is in all aspects of life, whether it comes to her career.

Like, oh, I was drunk and like foul. whatever, like, moving on. Like, that's, like, the only, like, horrible thing. Yeah, that's so terrible. Like, getting arrested on the beach. And which is amazing, because I feel like, with, what do you have, like, 16. point something million followers? That's a thing. Well, we all just lost millions of followers. I was 17 and now I'm 16.

I lost 3,000 followers overnight. Wait, why? They delete all the boss. They all delete all the boss. Highly general lost 15 million followers. See how many followers you lost? Oh, no. I was at 17.

It has to be at least a million. Well, I mean, let me tell you that I was at 2 million at one point. Now I'm at 1.8. See? But no, 1.8 I've been at for a long time. Okay, let's see. How do I see that? Just, I had a profile.

I know, but then what? It's right on top. See, followers. Oh, no, I know, but I didn't, I can't tell if I lost any. Yes, you can. The number didn't change? No. Oh, so you're just refined that.

Oh, then you're good. Oh. So they cleaned house and did some bots removal. I guess so. Yeah, because I had a lot of people who paid for bots. I think those are the ones. That's what I'm saying, yeah. So if they paid for it, those are gone?

Yes, you never, that's why you never buy follow- No, no, no, I know, but I know so many people that have And I'm like, that's so... They're screwed. Oh, crazy. Well, okay, so if we clean bots, then we don't get those messages that says you're going to go to the bathroom after you see my story. Do you guys get those? No.

Nobody says that on your posts? No. Oh, yeah, I get those. Yeah. One person... What do you mean? They're going to poo after they see them? It's like the sex ones.

Yeah, it's so weird. It's all the sex box. Okay, wait. Somebody said, uh... Let me see if I can find one. there was one the other day where she was like nobody will believe that I was related to Hitler until you look at my stories and it's her like bent over

without a microphone and I was like oh my God and I went ma'am I got drunk it and start typing back I do create a dialogue because I'm always like who are what does a bot actually mean like is it like it's like it's probably AI technology oh it's not an actual person oh I hope not I thought it was just annoying people yeah that's what I thought I think it was just like, didn't have anything else to do.

Yeah, that's what I thought. The final season of Jersey Shore, this is like family vacation possibly coming to an end or is coming to an end? So it's the final season on MTV. Okay. So we've been at MTV for 16, 17 years now. Yeah. So, I mean, we knew it was going to come to an end eventually. Right.

And we've done more seasons of family vacation than the actual original series. So Jersey Shore, we did six seasons. And then I did a spin all snooking and jowow of like me having babies and all the things. And then we did, I think this is eight seasons or nine seasons of this. So I mean, we did a ton of seasons. I didn't realize that. And then what, so what do you feel like? Because obviously, is it closure or is it just going to the next thing?

No, yeah. I feel like it's just a bittersweet ending. I mean, we knew we weren't going to stay there forever. Right. And now with like networks changing and MTV actually did a final season on a lot of shows. Yeah. Because they're moving in a different direction. And then how many years did you guys film without Sammy?

Oh. Seven seasons? And what? Six seasons? Why did she leave and then come back? She just didn't want to be a part of it? Yeah. Just to get away from it.

I mean, there was a lot going on with her in the original series. Okay. She just wanted like a break mentally and she just wanted to live a normal life. Yeah. So she finally came back. And how has that dynamic been with having her back? Oh, it's great. Yeah?

Yeah. Yeah, we missed her. Yeah. She says she's a sweetheart. And then how has it been just like navigating real life struggles on camera and stuff? I mean, you guys feel like you're just so used to that. Yeah, I feel like it's just like second nature.

It is. It's like our diary. Like when we go into confessional and we're talking about it or like doing interviews. I don't know. It just feels normal to us. It's like therapy. I get that. Yeah.

Only because. So again, doing this recent show that I filmed, there's a lot of housewives on it. And they're so used to like the cameras and being that. And I'm not. And I was thinking about Jersey Shore just being like, when it's that long running and you're so used to just sharing whatever, you know, it's kind of nice because people feel like they,

well, they do really know you. They don't get to make assumptions because you guys go in and talk about everything. And it's not scripted. From being there, my jaw was on the floor the whole time because being around housewives, I thought it was a joke. I thought they didn't actually behave like that.

That's just for TV. Oh, they're messes. And that's why we love them. Yes. Oh. Yes. I fell in, there was not one person I didn't love.

They're built differently because it just doesn't affect them. Just to get into a wine glass thrown at them. It's like they're ready to end all times for battle. I could. And the reunions are the worst. I could. There was one, like, women got up and were in each other's faces. And I was like, holy shit.

Love it. I was just. Grab the popcorn. Yeah. I was like, it's so, it's so good that you can just be who you are and not give a shit. about what other people think because that's what makes you authentic. That's what makes it good TV. But it's hard to do.

Well, there's some stuff. Like, this past season, I got drunk and I was, like, doing cartwheels and a split. And I was like, don't put that on. Like, I was like, don't put me doing a split because you might, like, see, oh, like a cheek or something. Oh, do, on MTV, can they show cheek? Well, yeah. Oh. Like, as a mom, I don't want that.

Oh, yeah. So I was more of, like, monitor. me as a mom like I don't want to embarrass my kids. Are you allowed to have some level of creative control? Now they're like, okay, we get it. Totally. So like you can keep my cartwheel in. Totally.

But like a split. Yeah. So we have a great relationship now. Back in the day, Jersey Shore. No, they left everything in. Oh my gosh. Do you get to be a part of like a lot of like a try. Yeah.

I come to a thought of things. Last time we were together filming, she fell off a cliff. It was a, that's this season. I know it's this coming season. He's going to be in the season when we go to Boston. Oh. I go to Boston. Yes, years ago.

No, literally last year. Oh. And I blacked out and all I wanted to see was Joey and all my roommates hated me. And how much? Do you just, do you love Billy? Do we say his name now? Yeah, we say his name now. Oh, yeah.

Yes, I love Billy. What made you decide to share? Um, I was, to me. I mean, I'm a kind of private person with everything like in that regards anyway. Yeah. Like my family and my close friends and things like that. I like to have that for myself, you know, as much of, I share and as outgoing I am.

I'm like the most outgoing introvert, I'd say. But a lot of things, I don't like, you know, to, like, be out there and have everyone know every single thing about it. I like to have, feel, I feel like I have something that's just mine. I get that. I did want to say thank you to you for opening up about your health journey because it actually made me go. Good.

It did. That was the whole point. I know. And I thought that was so important because, like, I literally have had one abnormal one. And then that scared me from going back. which exactly which we all like oh i don't want to deal with that i don't want to know what happens oh you have to take like a piece out absolutely not yeah and then you avoid and ignore which is so crazy my sister does does this all the time she's like i'm just too scared to go the dentist and then

the other day she's like i have to get a root canal i'm like that's because you didn't go the dentist i'm getting dentures and that's it so i actually booked an appointment when good i heard you talk about it and i was like that's the reason like obviously when people have a platform and you were saying i think that people don't talk about cervical cancer very often that's literally why i did it. Yeah. Because I was like, oh, I don't want to share this. This is like too personal and crazy and I don't want everyone to know. But like also no one's talking about it. So when I got the diagnosis, I was freaking out and I went right to Twitter and I put in cervical cancer state. Oh no. Oh, no. No, there was women talking about it. Okay. I thought you were going to say something bad. How everything's going to be okay. You have to get a hysterectomy or women did get the hysterectomy and they're fine. They just have to keep like going with the appointments making sure like it doesn't like get worse. So that. So that. help me. Okay. So I'm like, what if I talk about it? And it can help all these other women. And my doctor this morning,

my cancer doctor who's going to do the hysterectomy, he texted me, he was like, get me the date that we're doing it. But also, I just had a woman come in here and she was diagnosed with the same thing and she came in here because of you. Wow. And she like, your story gave her courage to like come in and get it done. Yep. And I was like, that was literally

the reason why I'm doing all this. So, it's so, I feel like it's. Like, nobody wants to get their pap smearer. No. It's the word. It truly, I have to take Xanax when I do it because I... It ruins my whole week. Knowing that I have the appointment. I also have vaginismis where my muscles literally clench up so hard when anything tries to go in. That's how she keeps her man so long. Yeah.

No matter what. And like, obviously I have sex. But it's every time, it's like a mental battle that I have to like... You get locksnerb? It literally goes... And it like... it's like you don't have to your key goals then nope it's but it's painful for me every time i have sex oh that sucks um until at three minutes in we're fine it's just the initial um so any pap smear i get i literally

have like the worst anxiety they have to use like a smaller thing for me not she's she's basically i'm saying i have a really tight vagina no i just but it's like us like it feels like i'm like my muscles sees up and it hurts that hurts worse so you're so you're so you're so test. So I have to take Xanax when I go anyways. Yeah, I'll say knock me out. Oh my gosh. I give you laughing gas. They should do that. I know. I had laughing gas the other day. It doesn't do

as much as you think it does. Because you're used to a hard drug. I was sucking on that thing. You're used to the big dog drug. But on that note, when is your hysterectomy? Do you have to, is that like soon coming up? Yeah. What is your main fear? Surgery and like getting my

womb taken out? That's terrifying. So there's a hysterectomy is they literally remove your uterus? Yes. Holy shit. You're going to lose it. But I can keep my, um, what are they called? Overees. Overey, so I don't go into menopause.

Okay, okay, okay. Because I'm only 38. If you had to take out my ovaries, then I'm going through menopause and then I have to take this shot or something. Oh, okay, so they can keep your ovaries? I keep my ovaries, but the uterus is gone. So can you still get pregnant and there's just nowhere for it to live? No, I can get pregnant.

But your ovaries are still there. There's no, boom. There's no where it's, that's where to live. It's not where to live. It's not anywhere. Yeah. So I think that's why I was freaking out the first minute because I was like, I don't know, I felt like I wasn't like I felt like I wasn't going to be a mom or like a woman anymore because I don't have my uterus anymore. You know what I mean? It's just like a weird thing. And I know I don't want kids anymore. So you won't get a period. You won't get a period. Yeah. Okay. And then what is recovery like? What does that look like on the other side when you don't have a uterus? Well, he basically said it's the same recovery as like a C-section. It's like the same far as a C-section. It's like the same far as a C-Sacion. section. Okay. So like I had my baby's vaginal. Yeah. And I know friends that got C-sections and that it was like the worst pain. So I'm not good with pain. I'm freaking out about it.

They'll give you stuff for them. No, yeah. I'm like, give me all the drugs. Yeah, you don't feel anything. And then are you going to have like relaxing? Like a night nurse and like people taking care of you? No, that's traumatic. What?

Oh, okay. That's, I've, yeah. Can you tell I've lived alone for so long? Like, when I got my boobs done, I literally hired a night nurse and it was the best thing I've ever done because I thought, I can do it by myself. Like, I'll be fine. No, you can't even open the pill bottle. You can't do anything. You can't open a bottle.

I couldn't do anything. Plus, I would take then. all these drugs and then I'd forget when I took the last ones. Yeah, so then you're like crazy. This woman was like feeding me crackers and drugs. It was amazing. I should hire one when I'm feeling lonely. Honestly. For seasonal depression. My mother's dead. Just hire a fake mom. You, I guarantee there's

I know. They'd be living with you. Guaranteed there's a service for that. There's, you can hire professional cuddlers. Yeah, I don't want that. Oh, that's weird. Oh. Oh, yeah. Just kidding. Maybe I'll have a color, but just just be there. Like I had to like call my, like, my, uh, my neighbor. yesterday to help me with something because I needed someone to hold something while I fixed it. So I'd have them come upstairs.

I can't. Okay, something that's great about the building I just moved into is they part of like being in that building is they'll like hang artwork for you and like put together a hand. Charge you? Do you charge? Are you sure? Oh, maybe. I don't know. Mama. Oh. That's another thing. It's a new york. You're getting had this. Nothing's for free here. You're going to get a bill somewhere.

I'm like, can I just do like a Instagram story? for them? Oh, maybe? A tradeout. Like Joey. If not, if you need a handyman, if they're throwing the eye of the best handyman. Oh, I know what? You would actually love my handyman. He just moved here from Nashville. Oh, my God. His name's Handyman Dan. And he's like a model also. Oh, my God. Does he do shirtless work? Yes. And he'll do your, he'll hang your curtain shirtless. He dabbles both sides. Okay, that's the last thing I need is a handyman that wants to hook up with me. Oh, well, maybe he won't want to.

But I'm sure he won't. I think he's more into women. But he's. Well, I can transition, so. Yeah, put on a wig. Yeah. I need powder. Wait, did I see that somewhere that you're transitioning? Didn't you say that? I said, no, I was thinking, no, they asked me if I would at this.

I said, not at this age. But I would do it back in the day for attention, but then I'd switch back. I like to speak people on their toes. Okay, we all know this feeling when your to-do list is so long. You don't even know where to start. Oh, I feel like that right now, actually. Work appointments, catching up with friends, remembering to drink enough water. Life is nonstop.

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Oh, wait. That just opened, didn't it? Recently. Last year. Last year. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it?

Is it the gulch? In the gulch? Where is it? It's near the gulch. It's a block away from Broadway. Oh. Yeah. Okay.

Now, it's a nice spot. I love it. I got lucky with the spot. So I'm busy with my stores. I'm four stores. I'm filming a ghost show right now. What's that? I'm being a paranormal investigator.

In Canada. In Canada. That's why I'm going there. Yeah. Well, first I went for the show and then now I'm... What part of Canada are they doing that one in? I keep going to Toronto and we go like, we just went to Niagara Falls. Beautiful. It's stunning there. Okay, wait. I'm obsessed with paranormal.

Yeah. Paranormal. We're Crave. We're Crave. We're Crave. Wait, I love this. Yeah, so it's going to be on Crave. Okay, so I'm going to go to me. And then I have the rights to sell it. Oh, my God. She's stealing everything. I'm just kidding. She's going to green lit a paranormal show. Yeah, she's going in and doing the ghost work.

Yeah, so. Tell the craziest thing that's happened. A lot of things. I'm being touched. So the main thing I wanted to do was because I'm like, I feel things. I feel ghosties. And I've been practicing like my mediumship and stuff to like read people. So this is like my test.

Yeah. Like trying to see if I can read the same thing that the medium that I'm working with can feel the same thing. It's basically a test for me. But also I always wanted to do paranormal investigations. So I have like a witch that's with me to like protect me. And then I have a tech guy. so like we use all of, you know, the things for like, you're the ghosty.

How? Fun. Yeah. So I'm going back next week and then the following week. So I'm like busy in Canada every single week. Well, I just feel like you're a busy work. Like, you just go. Ugh, I literally have no time.

Yeah. And then I'll be busy with our new podcast coming out. Yes. A revamp of ours. Yes. It's happening podcasts where all fine podcasts are found. Yes. And when does that restart?

Like, what date do you have a day? We're trying to find the time. I'm supposed to be soon. I'm supposed to be yesterday. I don't. have time to get it done. Wait, have you picked up anything with me being... Paranormal? Yeah.

Oh, no, I have to meditate first. Oh. I could do it for you though. Okay. Yeah. I would love that. I'm so into all that. What do you say when people, like, I'm so witchy woo love a witch? What do you say when people tell you you need Jesus, not a witch? People tell me that all the time. They go hand in hand, I think. I think spirituality

and energy is something completely separate from religion and beliefs. Yes, so I'm very universal. So I believe in the universe and I believe in aliens. and, you know, different worlds. And I believe in everything. Yeah. I grew up Catholic. I believe in God.

I believe in angels. I pray every day to St. Michael. But then I also believe in, like, the paranormal and the witchies. Yeah, same. I believe in all of that. Me too. Yeah. Me too.

Wait, that's really cool. Okay. What's the craziest thing a fan has done to either one of you in public? That's what Erica wants to know. Nicole probably getting punched. That was not a fan. Oh. You actually got punched?

Yeah, that was a vague. Horrible. Oh, God, that. Yeah, of course I've seen that. I thought you meant, like, in the streets of New York, but okay, okay, okay. I think the bathroom's crazy. Like, obviously, the bathroom's great for, like, girls and, like, you know, with your girlfriends. But, like, I'm peeing.

Yeah. And they're, like, looking at me through the thing, asking for a pitcher. I'm like, bitch, I'm peeing. Give me a second. Yeah. That happened to me. Yeah. In the height of Bachelorette.

I remember someone looking through. And I was like, you can't do that. Yeah. Or they go over and they take a picture. while I'm peeing. That's just so... How do you stay kind? Sometimes I don't.

Then they do a whole TikTok on how I'm a bitch. But I'm like, you took a picture of me peeing. I gotta say, you take a... Even on the worst days, like you still aren't kind to the fans. It's only when the kids are around

that you have to become mama bear. I'm like, no, not to be rude. Sometimes they'll like touch my kids and be like, hi Giovanna. And Giovanna's like, who is this person? Oh, that's so scary. So I'm like, oh, please don't do that.

But like, I get it because they see the kids on the show sometimes. But like also... I think that should just be like, PSA, like, common sense. Like, do not touch or acknowledge people's kids just because they're on social media. So that's when I'll get like a little, uh. Yeah.

But I try and be nice all the time. I mean, that's not. Yeah. Someone said, tell her I was too shy when she landed in Ottawa. But I love her and was starstruck. Oh, that was just my last trip, I think. If you're in Ottawa, go to the airport or airport lounge. That's what you'll find spooky drinking.

You'll find me drinking dirty bar cheap. Oh, I love an airport bar. I love an airport bar. I love an airport bar. I don't care if it's 7 a.m. I'm getting, I'll get a mimosa or a prosaacca. Absolutely. No, I am the same airport.

There's no time in an airport. I also eat whatever I wanted an airport. Do you like airplane food? I do sometimes. I love it. I love the salad. Yeah. Oh, salad scares me because I came back from Mexico once and they must have washed

the lettuce with that water and I got so sick. Oh, sick. Yeah. So careful of the salad. I know where the plane came from first before you have the salad. Ew. Yeah. Well, now I'm not going to eat the salad.

No, eat it. Just ask where the plane came from. Mm-hmm. Isn't it came from? I like the yogurt. Oh, the yogurt's good. Have you ever done a Biscoff, whatever that is cookie in the yogurt? Oh, no.

Tastes like cheesecake. Amazing. Yeah. It's a hack that I do on the airplane. Have you ever been asked to do traders? Yes. Three times. Do you not do it yet?

I got asked like two seasons ago. I can't remember. Oh, I had my niece's graduation and I refused to. miss my niece's milestones for me. I'm not famous enough. Well, I think you do it. Actually, you are because they had like a winner from

Big Brother from like 12 years ago on it. I'm hoping to get there. My people said I'm not, I'm too known for the regular one and too unknown for the real one. So like you're in the middle. I have to wait to either. But you'd be so good.

I'm going to be so good. You'd both be so good. If you went on together and you were both traders. I would never do it. Oh. Why? Because I can't leave my kids for more than 30.

True, true, true, true. I freak out. Okay. I can't do that 24-7 shit anymore. Mindy says, ask if she's jealous of your friendship with Joey. Yes. I was very jealous.

And obviously I knew who you were. So I was like, oh, she's like, famouser than me. She's more famous than me. And now Joey's trying to like replace me with someone better. I had to get you back. Last week,

there was a viral TikTok gay that she invited to her premiere party. And they were Kikiing all night, drinking panegreesia, making videos in the bathroom with TikToks. And I was like, well, I'm going to get this little bitch back. That was after, that was before. You were hanging out with her before that. I'm just saying, I knew this was coming.

Oh, that's why I did it. But you were always his number one. And he made that very clear to me when we met. He said, we can hang out, but I can't. Oh, good. Okay. Can't be your best friend. How have you maintained your friendship over the years?

I mean, I think it's harder for her originally. It was harder for her to make new friends, giving her, you know, her celebrity. Even in general, I don't like making new friends. Yeah, she's very cautious. She'd be very cautious of things. And we just kind of clicked right away because she knew what she saw in me was something that I needed.

And what I saw in her is something I needed. And I think we kind of needed each other in our lives at that time. I was like so lost about like so many different things about my career and just like my self-esteem and my family and just things like that. and she like automatically like we knew what we needed from each other right away and I think we that's just kept that around the whole time it's a great dynamic um somebody wants to know oh this guy not even saying his name he always wants to know these questions but um if you've ever looked up your wiki feet page like the autobiography no feet like feet like feet picks oh seat picks there's

a wiki feet page for like you probably have one oh i'm sure I have cute feet. Well, you're in the beach a lot. So you had your feet out there. I have cute feet. I feel like if I, like, had a feet page. Like, I would make a lot of money. Do you know, I understand why people like feet?

I realize, like, so many people have foot fetishes. It's because it's like a private part. You never really show your feet. If your feet are always wearing shoes. You're always wearing shoes. So it's almost like your boobs or your Pishadil are always hidden because you're wearing clothes normally. Shoes are the same way.

So they feel like they're getting to see you naked a little bit when someone finally takes her shoes off. It's like, it's like a revealing themselves. You have a top rated Wiki feet page. What? Yeah. Yeah, I have cute feet. 4.92 stars. Oh, wow. Yeah. And your shoe size is a five. Yeah, so I have tiny feet. Yeah. They knew that.

Very nice. It's a whole thing. I do appreciate when like women have very pretty feet. It's like you have gorgeous feet. Don't look at mine. That's why I have socks on. How long have you been married? 11 years. Oh. Okay. Somebody.

Somebody said, why didn't Snokey and Vinny ever date? Because I found Gianni. Yeah. But is Vinny now doing stand-up? He is. That's all around city. I've seen a couple of clips and I'm like, wait, that is so, I find that to be like one of the most brave things that you can do. Oh, I can never do it.

Especially coming from like, like, you already have this image and like what people think of you. It's like you got to break that. So like, take me seriously. Like, I'm a comedian. Yeah, and he does a really good job. He does. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, he's killing it.

I love you both, and thank you so much for doing the pod today. Yes. Because I know you have so much going on. So thank you for taking the time. We've been trying to do this for a while. Yeah. And now you have to come on ours. I would love to.

Yes. Can we be Instagram friends? Yeah, I'll follow you now. Let me see. We all need to follow each other. I didn't even know that happened. Well, that's because you're not, that's good that you don't know that happened. I shouldn't.

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