Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Overcoming Adversity One Day at a Time with Jana Webb
Episode Date: February 22, 2022Jana Webb joins Kaitlyn in this episode to share the incredible story of how she continues to overcome adversity in her professional and personal life. To say life has thrown her some curveba...lls is an understatement, yet her mental and physical strength as well as her “determined to be better than I was before” mindset have pulled her through some very difficult moments. Jana is a fellow-Canadian gal and the founder of Joga, a hybrid of the science of yoga with the biomechanics of sport movement. @JogaJana has worked and continues to work with top athletes across the world to help maximize their performance, even in the face of major injuries she endured from a life-threatening accident. This episode is sure to leave you feeling motivated to take on the day and live out your dreams, no matter what hurdles you may encounter along the way. Although Kaitlyn was running a little late to the recording, due to internet issues (again, leave us alone Tommy), the two of them made up for it with a tall glass of wine, some valuable life lessons, and vulnerable moments. Everyone has their own story to share, and we thank Jana for sharing hers in the hopes of making an impact on the Vinos and beyond. PROGRESSIVE - Get a quote today at Progressive.com. AWAY - Start your 100-day trial and shop the entire Away lineup of travel essentials, including their best-selling suitcases, at AwayTravel.com/vine. BOLL & BRANCH - Experience the best sheets you’ve ever felt at bollandbranch.com. Get 15% off your first set of sheets when you use promo code vine15 at checkout. PELOTON - Visit onepeloton.com to learn more. CYRANO - Don’t miss CYRANO, only in movie theaters this Friday, February 25th. Learn more at cyrano.movie. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey, everybody, you're listening to Caitlin Bristow's podcast, Off the Vine.
Take it away, Bree.
Wine.
Lots of wine.
Hey, be on the mic, turn it up.
Let's go.
Hey, ramen.
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Everyone's welcome.
So come on in because OTV, it's about to begin.
Hey.
Welcome to Off the Vine.
I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow.
We all know I'm a big manifestation guy.
Currently living out my childhood dreams.
I do a segment on the tour where I come out there and I talk.
about vulnerability and how vulnerability led me to be living out these childhood dreams.
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Anyways, I've been wanting to bring on someone to the podcast who is inspiring, has also worked hard to live out their dreams.
And this woman's success story comes with a lot of adversity.
And to say life through her some curveballs is an absolute understatement.
I think most of us can relate to the fact that life's journey is not always as smooth sailing as we
imagined it would be. And so my guest today has demonstrated how mental and physical strength
has gotten her through some very rough times in her life. Joining me on the pod today is Jana Webb.
She is the founder of Joga, which is a fitness method that she curated that bridges the gap
between the science of yoga, breathing, and relaxation with biochemical of sports.
Jenna has worked and continues to work with top athletes across the world to help maximize their performance.
She's a fellow Canadian. She was on the real housewise of Toronto.
And Jana shares her story about how a horrible car accident allowed her to pivot and change the course of her life.
And Jenna and I talk a lot about how being adaptable can help you in every way of life, especially through COVID,
and how that got her through one of the worst accidents of her life.
Please welcome my guest, Jana.
I am so embarrassed of this situation right now.
But you're in Nebraska.
Look at me.
I look like, well, I went to bed at like five.
The bus got here at like 4.30 in the morning.
Went to bed at like 5 a.m.
woke up.
I tried to find a coffee shop.
and everything is closed and I was like what where am I and I just like went back to my room to like
try and get all prepped and get on the internet. Of course that isn't working. Now I'm in this like big
huge like conference room by myself. There's like no good lights. I saw on your Instagram story that
you were like maybe I'll open the ball of wine. So I went up to the lobby and I was like get me a
glass. Yes. I'm like I'm just she's delayed. I'm going to drink wine. Yeah.
I ran into a couple of the dancers and they like barely drink and they're like starting early today and I was like, yes, yes I am. And I have a podcast and I'm like, and I saw that she was drinking wine. So it gave me to get a glass of wine and I am ready to go now. I feel much better now. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Nice to see you. Welcome to Nebraska. What in the hell. Like where are you? What are you doing? Did you know that yesterday?
I went a whole day without knowing what city I was in.
Because of the bus?
I truly did not know where I was.
So the bus, we drove wherever we were yesterday, Iowa.
And I was about to go on stage.
And the crowd was like a little bit quiet on the quiet side at first.
And I was like, okay, I got to stay like where I am like, what's up?
Oh, did you get them hyped?
And I was like, wait, where am I?
And they were like, you're in Iowa.
And I was like, holy shit, I had no idea.
I was like, I literally thought we were still like somewhere like in Ohio.
And I had no idea that I was in Iowa.
And it was just comical.
And I was like, that is just so my life right now.
Don't know where I am.
So Ohio or Nebraska, is that like a two-day thing?
Like, how long were you on the bus?
Like nine hours.
Okay.
Oh, only nine hours.
It was only nine hours.
but I just didn't even look at what city we were going to.
Okay, I got you.
Okay.
And then I didn't even think about it until I was on stage and I was like, wait, I need to hype up the crowd.
Where are we?
And then I just couldn't believe that.
I had no idea where I was and that I was in Iowa.
And it was very comical.
But anyways, it's fun being a hot mess sometimes.
It makes stories and I'm journaling through it all and it's going to be funny to look back on.
Yeah.
And it's three months, the whole thing.
Yeah, yeah.
So I started January 3rd and then I will be done.
March 18th is my last show. Wow. I know I listened to your podcast. I think you did it on the bus
with, is it Emma and Brett, like two of the dancers? Yeah. I could hear the bus and you said something
about kind of reference in it to like athlete road trips or like when you were younger, right? And you're
like this is what it's like you're, you know, boys on the bus or girls on the bus.
It's so true. So many like like correlations that remind me of like athletes in their lifetime and
what they have to do. I'm so excited we get to chat today. I mean, the last, when was the last
time? Was it Toronto that I saw you? For that, that event, the Reebok event. Yeah, so we were both
Reebok ambassadors and got to do that event together. Obviously, you're very into fitness and
everything. And I don't know, I don't know how, I was like, oh, Reebok. I was like, that's so cool.
And then I was like, I should start working out.
I actually think when I signed with Vivac was I was like I should get into exercising because I really wasn't before and obviously my ex was a trainer and he was so involved in fitness and I was like I guess I'm on that page like I should probably get on the same page and start working out and that's actually when I started liking working out but yeah yeah that was when we first when we first met so that a lot has changed since then obviously I have so many questions for you but I just thought the best place to start
is to kind of give us your story for people who are listening who don't know from like your earls days
in edmonton which is so funny because i too worked it which earls were you at in emminton so i was at the one
is it jasper ab or whatever the main jasper yeah i was there and then at the tin palace in calgary like
i was oh i was an earl's girl oh yeah you were i do want to say and i was telling cleo this
i was like i don't know if she remembers this but i actually met you like almost five years ago
and it was at in Kelowna at a wine event.
You had just finished the bad at and we did this wine event.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I was like, who is that?
Because Dina, my publicist at the time.
And she's like, that's Caitlin Ristow from the past.
I was like, oh, okay, cool.
Because I had housewives had just come out.
Yeah, and that was kind of like.
I actually do remember that.
And I'm blanking on the winery's name right now.
Do you know it's Perseus?
I think it was.
Perseus.
Yes, yes.
And yeah, I brought my mom to that event.
and I do remember sitting at that table and talking to you and Aaron.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wild.
Okay, yeah.
I do remember.
So that's interesting because that was like the first event that I did after my accident,
which we'll get into in a little bit.
But I remember I was so sick that night and I was so faking it.
I was like, and like it was awful.
But we'll get into that.
But I was happy that I had that memory.
And then I texted, Dina's like, do you look, picture?
And she actually, I have a picture.
I'll send it to you of us.
No way.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's so perfect. We'll use it to get on my off the vine page, a little throwback. Oh, that's so crazy. Yeah, what do I mean, the world is small, but especially when you're Canadian.
Yeah, exactly, right?
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So, I mean, getting to my story, I've tried to make this, like, as concise as possible.
But I think the part that you'll appreciate the most, and I'll start there, because I wasn't always an athlete growing up.
And so I, you know, played basketball, volleyball, ringette.
I grew up in small town, Alberta.
My brothers both played, like, hockey.
One played semi, you know, like typical, like Alberta, Western California family.
But I always wanted to be a dancer.
My best friend was a dancer.
And I think my mom did put me in a dance class, but like I was so horrible that she's just like,
you just stick.
And then so years later, I was actually working at Earls in Calgary.
And this guy approached me.
He's like, you're way too, like, talented to be working at Earls and offered me this job
with like Corona Canada.
And so I got this job.
And one of my job was basically to go.
and if anybody was drinking a soul
yeah a corona and like basically just exchanged their beer
and we did this all throughout western canada and we were just leaving peach
fast which i know you know what that is in the neoccanoggin
i got in like a little accident i don't even like call it an accident because like
because of now the situation i'm in but we got in this little like fender bender
i'll call it anyways it was enough of an accident though that i couldn't work and i like
i couldn't really walk more like soft tissue damage and at the time so quit my job i'm living
in Calgary in an apartment and Oprah was really big at the time with like our aha moments. And I was like,
this ain't mine. I'm like, I'm not working. I'm like lying on the coach. And it like made me stop and
pause in my life. At that time, you know, I had traveled Australia. I'd kind of done this job.
I had worked in advertising. It had my own business at a young age. And I was 24 and I was like,
what's next in my life? And this thing about being a dancer kept like coming up in my head.
And so I called my best friend and she's living in L.A. at the time. And she had gone to do the Randolph
Academy in Toronto here, which is like triple, right, like singing, dancing, acting, but
primarily a dance school. And I was like, hey, buddy, I was like, what's that school that you
went to in Toronto? She's like, the Randolph? And I was like, yeah. And I was like, I think I'm
going to audition. And she's like, oh, buddy. Oh, my God. It's like you have to actually like
be talented. Like, well, it's like I'm going to learn. Like, it's a school. Like, don't you
go to learn it to do all these things.
And so I put all my, you know, submissions in.
And at the time, like, you're using VHS and they're like sing a song and do like a monologue.
Like, I didn't know what I was so green.
I didn't know what any of the stuff was.
I sang the rose by Ben Miller.
Stop it.
Because that's a song I used to sing to my mom and dad or to my grandma and grandpa.
And then the dancing I couldn't do because I didn't dance because you had to be good at one thing.
And then I did a monologue.
And then they kind of, they didn't let me in.
And then they called back and they're like, well, we're doing this show.
And it's like a reality show at the school.
And like you'd be like a really good character.
And I was like, because I would basically embarrass myself on national television.
I'm like, I'm not doing the show.
Right.
Somehow or another, I ended up getting into the school.
I was persistent as like I will like work extra hard.
I'll do everything.
I just wanted to prove to myself that I could like do this thing.
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
When I drove across Canada and my Jada and we get to the school and I'm still kind of doing
physio and stuff for my, this car accident I was in.
And so I'm in school every day and I'm doing these vocal tutorials, which like I suck at
singing as well.
Oh my gosh.
I love that you just went for this.
I had no business being.
You were there.
The first day I showed up to school, you look for your name and all the classes and there's like
elementary, you know, jazz and then like advanced and then like advanced and then
there's beginner and then there's pre-beginner and there's pre-pre-beginner.
It's like me and one other person.
I'm 25 years old.
I'm buying a leotard for the first time, like my tap shoes and my pinkling.
Oh, that is so cute.
Anyway, so I did it.
I went to school.
But the point of this story, which I wanted to emphasize the dance part for you, but the second part is, is like during that time, my vocal tutorial, this girl, this lady started to give me all these stretches in the room.
And I was like, what is this?
It's like, it's yoga.
And it was this thing that, like, started to make me feel better.
And so that's when I started to get introduced to yoga.
And that's kind of where my story of like the creation of yoga and, you know, all these years later, I just, you know, I was this person trying to like, you know, do things that my body just shouldn't be doing.
I mean, I'm tight.
I can't, you know, touch my toes.
Like, I'm that typical athlete, but I had that athlete mindset.
So I'd go into those yoga classes and I'm like, I'm going to do it.
Like, I'm going to like stand on one finger and like do the bird or whatever else, right?
And I'm like hurting myself, but I kept going back because.
like the breathing and the relaxation, all those different components really, I was like, wow,
as an athlete, I was never taught these things and they were very powerful. And so I ended up
graduated from school. I ended up doing a double pirouette. Like I did it. Get it, girl. I love it.
I still like, I don't know if I can do a double pirouet to this day. Yeah, I mean, it's the only
thing I worked on for three years, but that's okay. Anyway, so we did all that. Yeah, and then I just
started, yeah, and then what, and then this is where my memory goes a little bit weird, but I
remember I graduated from school and then I got married in there too by the way and had a baby
a bunch of things. Yes. Yes. And then I ended up in Japan and that's where I did my yoga
certification. And from there, started teaching yoga back in Calgary and got an opportunity to
coach the Calgary Stampeders. And that's when I had that like lightball moment I taught. It failed.
It was awful. I had a whole football team pretty much like walk off the field because they're like,
yeah, for the for people who are listening or don't know who the Stampeders are. It's the Canadian
in football league, the CFL, and it's their football team.
So you were training them?
So I was training them, but it was awful because I was trying to teach them yoga.
And these guys can't do yoga, right?
Right.
I was like, I had this, like, aha moment again.
And I was like, I have to change this.
And so that's what I've spent the last 15 years doing is taking all the science of the
breathing and relaxation, but really looking at, like, I started to study biomechanics and
how athletes move and train.
And so taking yoga principles, but actually, you know, making them the movements cohesive
to what these athletes actually need in terms of, like, power and speed and agility to perform
better. And so, you know, here we are. And the name Joga was completely, you know, made up not by
me. It was one of the athletes. He was like, you should call this something. And I was like,
you know, jocks and Chan. And he's like, how about Joga? He's like, as a dude, like I feel good saying,
like I do Joga. Yeah. And that's where it started, like 12 years ago.
Wow. Okay. So, I mean, that's quite.
the story of how you got there, which I love because it really, there's people out there
who have something that they want to do and they will not give up until they get there.
And it doesn't matter if you are doing at the age of 25 or 35 or 45 or 55 or 65 or 75 or 75,
I think it's so cool when people have like a dream or something that they love to do and that they're
like, I, like, you didn't dance and you said you couldn't sing, but you got into a school with vocal
and like dancing because of this you know mindset that you have and I just think it's so cool like
me personally thinking about I felt like I had to give up on dancing and then like you just never
know if you hang on to something or still have passion for it when it's going to come in your life and
now I'm touring with dancing with stars like it's completely insane but do you think you're born
with that or do you think it's taught oh yeah I've never known anything different I feel like my whole life
has been just like this I think one I was the youngest of four so it's always used of like having to fight for everything that I wanted in general I think that's important so I think it's I think it's an environmental thing I think it's like an upbringing thing for sure yeah but I yeah it's just always been in me my mom said since I was little like if I didn't get my own way like I'd hold my breath and turn blue and like she'd have to like shake me in the bathtub and like I saw my like full on tamper tantrums if I didn't get what I wanted so
I think I was born with this drive or this thing that I just couldn't stop until I get what I
hope that I want. Yeah. Right. And then you got there and then you had an accident, which again,
I'll let you tell it because it's your story, but even still through, you know, a pretty serious
accident that you probably thought, people thought you couldn't walk. You, you know, got through all of
this probably because of the mindset that you have, but tell everyone what happened with that.
Yeah. So, you know, is that really the height of my everything? You know, you work, like,
you, you know, and maybe that always changes. But for me, this was like the height. I'd work so
hard to build yoga as finally training like MBA, you know, training everybody, built my business up.
And I had just signed my first lease to build my first studio in Toronto in Yorkville,
got an offer to go train a professional team down in Dominican and said, yeah.
just finished filming housewives, which I did completely strategically for marketing for the business.
Like, you know, of course.
Yeah.
Oh, that's another thing for people listening.
You did the real housewives of what Toronto is that?
Yes, not bad.
Oh, my God.
I love it.
I love it.
Okay, yeah.
But, you know, and literally, like, all those things were happening and this opportunity
came up in Dominican.
And I really didn't want to go, but I'd also just signed this like million-dollar lease.
And I was planning on bootstrapping the business.
So I said yes, they were offering me quite a bit of cash to go down there.
And literally, I finished the contract.
I trained the players every single day.
And then I was on my way home to the airport from Santa Domingo to Punta Canna.
And I don't know if anybody knows this, but they should know this.
It's one of the most dangerous highways in the world.
So don't ever take that highway.
And I was hit head on by a cement truck, a drunk driver, a drunk driver.
And like he was drunk and a cement truck head on.
And yeah, I mean, it was awful.
in that moment, I remember I had said by to my son before I left.
How old was he at that time?
He was eight.
Yeah.
Eight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was just little.
And I remember, like, so when the accident happened, well, first, I thought I was going to die.
Like, that's the first thing that came.
And then I remember being alive and I took a breath and I was like, okay, I'm alive.
And all I could see is I took a picture of him before I left Canada.
And he was sleeping because I always had to leave early for flights.
And he was sleeping on his little pillow.
and I just, the last post that I had was ate my angel.
And I remember, like, when I knew that I was alive, I had this, like, moment.
And all I could see was his little, like, cherub face.
Yeah, that's the first memory I have afterwards.
And then everything was chaotic.
It was just, like, people trying to get me out of the car.
Like, it would have been a Jaws of Life situation in Canada.
But there is, there is no, like, handsome firefighter that shows up again.
It's like, you're on your own.
It was like a bunch of locals trying to get me out of the car.
And my back was broken and nobody knew.
And so they were trying to pull me out of the window.
So I think more problems actually happen because they were trying to get me out of the car.
But they were trying to get me out of the car because they thought it was going to blow up.
And so anyways, all these things happened.
I end up in the hospital down there in intensive care.
And obviously didn't really understand what would happen to me.
I had a neck brakes on.
But I could move my hands in my feet.
So I knew I wasn't paralyzed, but I couldn't move my body.
like it was the most scariest from somebody who uses the body every single or anybody you know it was just
yeah do you remember do you remember people pulling you out of the car like you have memory of that
yeah i do i have memories just like it was chaotic but i remember them trying to like grab me from my
shoulders and pulling me up but and i couldn't speak the language just say don't do that because it was
hurting so bad in my back so they didn't actually get me out of the window but they were like trying to lift me
up. I have memories of that. I have memories of getting to the hospital. Yeah, it's crazy. And actually,
you know, a funny part of this story. And I have to have like laugh at it now because, you know,
it's the only way to get through this stuff. But I remember the team I was coaching down at the time,
the general manager's wife, she was very religious. And because I was by myself, she used to come and
sing for me and pray for me in the bedroom. And I was like, this is so lovely. And then another day,
all the players came over to say, hey, Jan, like, we're so sorry this happened to you.
And I was like, oh, that's so nice of you guys to come all this way.
Because I was a bit confused of where I was to.
Maybe I thought I was in Canada and like the play came all the way.
Yeah, I thought, I didn't know I was still in the Dominican.
And they're like, oh, the fields just across the street.
It's like, oh.
Oh, my gosh.
That's, here I am complaining about not knowing I'm in Iowa and you are, you know, like, that's wild.
Oh, my gosh. So how long were you in the hospital for?
So I was in there, down there for a week. And I kept thinking I was going home.
People were trying. My best friend did come to see me. But like, I was like, oh, no,
mom and dad don't come. Like, I'm going to be home tomorrow. Like, I didn't realize what
it happened to me. I'm just like, no, I'm just going to jump on a flight and get home.
Right. Nobody would fly me home because when you have a broken back, there's too much risk
because I could become paralyzed. And so eventually I got air ambulance back. So it was just me
in a doctor and a nurse in one of those little airplanes.
And I had to sign this thing that basically said,
if you, like, if anything happens to you in the flight,
like nobody's responsible.
The team's not responsible, blah, blah, blah.
So I ended up flying back to Toronto and ended up here at Toronto Western.
And then, yeah.
And then that's when this whole, like, shit show began,
like this last five years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is, I mean, I mean, everyone's listening,
wanting to probably know what that shit show is because,
it's like at that point I hear that story and I go oh my gosh like that sounds like how do you recover
from that how does your body recover from that how do you keep going physically um your son like
how scary was it for your family to I mean these are like a million questions at once but
like when you finally got home what did that look like for you when you finally and maybe you
don't recall this but what what was going through your head about how you were going to
proceed as an athlete, as a fitness trainer, as a mom and everything that you were doing
in your life? Like, how did you adjust and what did you do? Yeah, you know, and I do remember because
it was such a monumental moment in my rehab. So my mom wouldn't bring my son the very first night
because it was just too traumatic. And they're like, okay, your son's coming tomorrow at 11 a.m.
And so this is going to be the first time that I'd seen William. And so I was like all excited and
he came in and I just saw the look of like sheer tear in his face and I remember tears just like sprang
from my eyes and I was like oh my God my son is so scared like I'm his is everything and here his mom's
all laid up and you know what I mean with a neck break you know like the whole thing yeah and so he
laughed and I said to the nurse I said when he comes back tomorrow I need to show him that mom's
going to walk and so the whole day we practiced and I was like I was like I hadn't even like
even sat up at this point. But we sat me up. We figured out how to get me kind of off the bed and onto
a walker. And then I, you know, when he came the next day, I was like, Will, I was like, look,
mom can walk. I was like, take a video. And he took a video of me and I just kind of put all my weight
on the walker and just kind of faked it. You know what I mean? And shuffled a little wrong.
But then, you know, from that day, the reason it's monumental is like, oh my God. I'm like,
I just got out of bed. And I just did that. Like, I just walked that walk.
And then I didn't stop walking from that day on.
And I mean, it was excruciating pain.
And it's just interesting in philosophies and treatment, though, too, because in the Dominican,
they're like, your back's broken.
We don't know what's wrong with your neck.
Like, I had a brain injury.
All these things is like, stay still.
But you come up to Canada, and the philosophy is a bit different.
They're like, move, like sit up, like get her moving.
Like, that's better.
And that's kind of how I think, too, in terms of recovery is like when you move, your body can
heal and repair itself.
And so that, you know, and,
And to be fair, like my back, I mean, my neck is still a mess, but my back healed very quickly.
It's the brain injury and the concussion.
Like, this is the long outstanding injury.
I'm still in rehab five days a week.
Like, it's a real.
Wow.
Yeah.
And this accident happened in 2016, was it?
Yeah.
And you're still working on this every day.
Wow.
Okay.
So you're back healed, but you still, like, so what does the rehab look like for you at this point?
Yeah. So it's just like a lot of it's just getting that next strength. I mean, just kind of, you know, learn. So I do like so many different things. So a big piece of it is like cognitive training like right after the accident. Like all my words. Sorry. Oh, I just have to laugh because I can't even think people who are talking to me. Like I used to think I spoke very eloquently. Even like I've done a TED talk, right? But all my sentences were in the wrong order of my words. So that part took a very long time.
So I work on my cognitive stuff.
I have a neurologist that I work with.
And that's just like on placement and then like on my vestibular system.
So understanding where I am in space because there's so much injury in my neck,
that affects my eyes.
And so it's all that the symptoms are, I feel dizzy all the time.
I mean, I vomited for three years straight.
Like just like.
No way.
Yeah.
Like so when I met you that night at person, like I was like, this is so much.
It was just, it was so hard for me to manage all that.
Then I do like strength training, but not.
really. It's just, but it's all like based on physio stuff. And then I do a ton of osteopath. I do,
I mean, my rehab schedule is very busy. But I'm getting there and I'm determined to be better
than, you know, what I was before. Like that's my. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Every, I mean,
if you're working on that five days a week with your drive, I have full faith in you that, I mean,
you're still, I mean, are you still doing yoga?
Are you still being able to be active?
How are you maintaining, like, a work life while doing all of this rehab when your job is so physical?
Yeah.
So right when the accident happened, I went and released this space.
And so I built that space while I was in the hospital.
So I still built it and went through with that gun investor basically, like, begged this guy to give me money.
I'm like, I can't move, but do you want to invest in me?
Wow.
that's amazing that he did it. But I mean, I couldn't ever get that thing. It was, it was sad for me because that was, you know, my dream was to have the studio in Yorkville here in Toronto. And so I built it. We put a ton of money into it, but I just wasn't able to be there physically. So that was almost two and a half years ago. And then we actually had to shut it down right before COVID hit. So it's kind of a blessing. You know, there's always a silver lining, right? I did this thing. And then thank God, I didn't have that overhead and that space during COVID. So it worked out. But in terms of physical,
of it. I can't do what I used to do. I mean, I have like different levels of yoga and like different, you know, appratt like yoga sliders and yoga balls and all these things that require me to be a lot stronger. I mean, I used to do like handstands and, you know, all that funds. There's no way so that I can do any of it anymore. Yeah. So when I met you at this Reebok event, you had just gone through this, like the through your accident? That was probably, yeah, three years ago. So I was about two, a year and a half in, two years in. Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. And so that's that, like, that part, like, I've just been, like, faking it, you know? Yeah.
I mean, that's a, that's a big way to fake it. That's not something small.
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That's, it's just so wild to me that you still, you know, like, if we were to just, you know,
hear you speak right now and see you and talk to you, like you would never know that you've
been through all this and that it's something that you're still working on.
And you must have learned so much about yourself in that time of recovery and,
finding your strength and what do you think was the biggest lesson that you learned from
all of the adversity that you faced? I think it's a compassion thing. Like I've always had
passion and drive, but now I look at people differently because I've always looked fine. And
like when I met, no one would ever know that after that event, I've gone home and puked for three
hours, you know what I mean? And I wouldn't be able to do anything the next day. And so I think
my biggest lesson that I've learned is I look at people differently. And I acknowledge that
everybody's got a story and I acknowledge that it's not just me like I had this accident and this trauma
and adversity that I have to manage every single day but so many people have so much worse and so
when I look at people I'm just like I just know that they're battling something everyone you know
and so it's this aware of this mental awareness piece and I struggled big time I you know and it's
interesting because the athletes that I used to train you know a lot of them had concussions and
you know, I didn't really understand it. I didn't. I actually didn't understand it at all. I remember one time one of the Argos came up to me and he's like, hey, Jay, again, Canadian football team. Yeah. I can't do yoga today and I was like suck it up by and your cup. Like I had zero idea. But everything that they say, you know, the temperament, your mood swings, like you forget, like all of that is very, very true. And it was really hard for in all of my relationships with my family, my friends. And yeah, it's been, it's been. It's.
It's been hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you've been with the same person since your accident and he's been through all of this with you.
He must, you know, as a fireman he is, right?
So he must have a lot of like understanding maybe or empathy towards like when you do go through hard times in what you're dealing with.
Yeah.
Well, I met him six months after.
So it was like 50 first dates when we first started dating because I didn't remember who he was for like three months.
No way.
Because, like, I had zero, like, Kailen, I can't even, it's embarrassing, but, like,
I couldn't, like, William would find, like, but, like, it's just, like, it's funny now,
but, like, I literally couldn't remember anything.
And so I was dating him, but I would ask him, like, the same questions every time.
And, you know, we had, like, our relationships been interesting because I met him at this,
like, this very difficult time.
And, of course, yes, he was very patient with me and tied my shoes up for, like,
an entire year because I couldn't bend over and my shoes up.
but he also like went through a lot of this stuff that I'm talking about like this mental you know piece where I would just like lose my shit in this like in a second and and and and then like the next day I'd be like oh my god what happened like it's it's weird because it's like you know you're you're not yourself and I'm like no no no this isn't me and he's like this is the only you that I know right so I kind of felt like I was like digging myself out of a hole all the time because I'm like no promise you like I'm like about peace and love and like I just want everyone to do good and
and then it's like, yeah.
So has that, because you do rehab and work on these things five days a week,
have you noticed that that piece of it has gotten better or easier for you and your relationship?
Oh my God, yeah.
Like I'm so like 80% better.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, that's incredible.
And so it's interesting to me that you, I read an article that said you feel the need to
always have to be strong and feel the need to like shield your vulnerabilities for, you know,
your son's sake, employees, you run a business. So how do you allow yourself to be vulnerable?
Because to me, it sounds like you're a very vulnerable person. I mean, you're able to talk about
what's happened to you, talk about your feelings that you did have this struggle with your
relationship. Like, how do you allow those moments for yourself to be vulnerable if you're trying
to shield it? Yeah, this is just new though. This is like a working progress. So this is maybe the
first time that I've said this out loud. You know what I mean? Like it's kind of like my, my progress.
my progression for myself, because I think I've been shielding just to protect my identity.
It's embarrassing. I didn't want my work. You know, I worked so hard to build Jovan to get to that
place in my life. I, and it felt like it all got dismantled in like 30 seconds. And I was like,
I worked way too hard. You know, and in the industry that I'm in sport, there's no days off. Like,
you know, I can't, if I'm not there and I'm not hustling and, you know, I miss out on those
opportunities that I've worked 12 years to create for myself. And so I kind of kept up this like facade that
everything was good. And, you know, but at the end of the day, I mean, those years, those first couple
years of trying to continue this, this workload, it's just, it wasn't sustainable. You know,
my threshold was limited. I was in pain. I couldn't function. And so when COVID happened,
it was like, honestly, a saving grace for me because I had to stop hustling.
you know, the year before COVID, I did 56 flights and 52 weeks.
And so then, yeah, because I would like fly to L.A. to a meeting or, you know what I mean,
or go train an athlete in New York in the morning and then be home to drive William.
You know the hustle.
So, like, it's like boom, boom, boom, when you're building something and you say yes to everything.
Yeah.
You know, and then the border shut down.
And at first I was like, oh, my God, here we go again.
It's like the Smith truck being all over again.
Yeah.
I'm like, really?
Gosh. But then the first few months I was having a bit of a pity party. And then I was like, this is actually really good for me. Yeah. It's allowed me to really focus on my rehab, really focus on my family life, focus on being really grounded. Like to the point, like, I don't even want to leave like the bottom of my street. Yeah. Yeah. So many people have taken away life lessons or perspective from the last couple of years. But that's, of course, like you said,
There's silver lining, and that has allowed you to be more present in, like, your day-to-day life
and things that are actually good for you, mental health, you know, being home.
But do you have any advice for those who feel like maybe discouraged over the last couple
years or lost in life?
Because you just, to me, you're just like a person of, well, obviously you're an inspiration.
Like you just, you have shown that you can go through anything and get through anything.
And I think a lot of people over the last couple years have felt discouraged or lost.
do you have advice for people? I always like to give advice once I've been through something
and on the other side of it. And so right now I will say like honestly, I'm still kind of in it.
Like I'm in this whole like, you know, not find it in myself. I mean, I know my business and I know
what I want to do. But definitely these last two years have been hard and we, I haven't been able
to push the gas pedal the way I wanted to. And so I think the most important advice that like I'm that I
can give and that's what I'm doing for myself. It's just to kind of sit in it and like,
like learn all the lessons. And it's, you know, when in our life are we ever going to have
this time to reflect and like really truly be authentic to ourselves? And so it almost gives you
an opportunity to reinvent yourself, you know, and I think the way things used to be, especially
for us up in Canada, I mean, you know it's been like crazy up here. I don't know how how much we can
look forward to our lives being like they were before. And so I've kind of wrapped my head around
the idea of okay so this is like everything's now different and I mean I don't need I changed my
whole business model we do everything online now I'm training more I ask yeah yeah I'm training more
athletes now than I ever have in my entire life because we flip on the computer I don't have to
fly price point is different yeah it's just you know everything has changed and so I think the
best advice I can be is just like you have to kind of adapt adaptability and I say this to
athletes all the time too. You have to be able to adapt to your environment and to the situation
because nothing is ever the same. Like the past is the past. Even if it, you know, even life was
not a COVID life, right? The past. And so I would say give it some time, take it all in,
sit in it. Like sometimes it's like, you know, when you're in a crappy situation, you just got to
like sit in whatever it is. Yeah. See what comes up. Because that's when I think character development
happens. I think that's when learning about yourself and authenticity happens. Yeah.
Be patient. Yeah. What is the difference between yoga and yoga? Oh, good question.
It's hoping you to ask that. I'll give you a picture like an analogy so you can kind of wrap it
around your brain. So I always say if I'm pitching an NBA team or basketball team, I'll be like,
have you ever seen your basketball player stop in the middle of a game, mid-court,
and do tree posture.
Do you know what tree posture is, right?
Like, no, you don't ever see them doing postures.
What you see is these athletes in this cadence of movement.
And so what yoga is, it's the hybrid of like the breathing and relaxation of yoga,
but with different science around it for performance and recovery,
hybrided with like the biomechanics of sports.
So how they actually move it in terms of cadence, how they train in the weight room.
So it's all based on like neuromechanics and biomechanics.
And it's this idea around.
getting athletes to invest in the education about themselves and their bodies because
yoga it's so technical and you'd appreciate this from being a dancer it's rehearsal like
it's the same program over and over and over again so it's no different than a basketball player
who does skills and drills like shooting hoops you know since like eight years old doing the same
move every single time joga's the same movements over and over in this three-dimensional
plane so they come they know what to expect it's not like they're just going to go they go
to a yoga class and it's like a yoga teacher's guessing of how to train them, right?
Everything that we do is programmed. It's either, you know, based on their periodization periods,
like whether they're in season and off season. But most importantly, like the fundamental piece
of the program is that all of the moves you would see in sport rather than doing a posture
or a pose that really makes no sense in terms of like their neurology or how they move. Right.
Yeah. That's that's really brilliant.
Brilliant, actually. And it's so how cool that you can do that online now for so many more athletes than ever before. Like I think that's something I learned even in the podcast space from having to, you know, switch gears and to have everything online now. And we're living in this virtual world where everything is over the internet. But I at first, I was I was like, I hate this. I hate this so much. I love human connection. I love talking to somebody in person. I would obviously rather do it. But it's turned into the.
this like the convenience is obviously amazing unless you're stuck in Nebraska in a hotel where
you don't have Wi-Fi. But like it's it has opened up so many other conversations. Like I might
not have even sat down with you unless I was in Toronto and we were in the same city to have
these conversations. And so now I have a different appreciation for every conversation I have with
every different person and like for your business, you can do everything online. So I mean,
with your accident and with everything that's.
happened, you've had to just kind of roll with the punches and the changes and adapt your business
to this life and to everything that's happened to you. Has there been like memorable challenges
through that? Or have you been found the like silver lining and all of it? Gosh, I mean,
at the beginning, you know, again, we, I kind of, you know what's interesting is prior to the
pandemic, the December before, I started to work with a technology company to do online training
because of this situation, I was like, well, I need to duplicate myself.
And I have, like, coaches all over the world.
But to get to the level where you're able to work with that level of athlete,
it's a lot of training, as you can respect.
And so I was like, how can I be more places at once?
And I was like, well, if I could be virtual, then I could be everywhere.
And so I started to work with the technology before COVID started.
So we were already working on this technology.
But we wasn't ready to go.
Again, it required financing all of these different things.
we were in a pilot stage.
But then one of the teams,
the New Jersey Devils actually called me.
And that's one of the teams.
I used to fly in and out to train.
And he was like,
hey, he's like,
is there any way we could do like a yoga session on Zoom?
And I was like on Zoom.
And he's like,
I do it at my yoga studio.
Like, all we do is like,
you go on Zoom.
And then there's this like spotlight feature.
And he's like,
you could just spotlight one of your coaches.
And you could coach.
Like you could watch.
Because really, like, I like to coach and like
watch their form and everything.
Yeah.
And the players could watch this.
the one of your joker coaches on the spotlight. And I was like, that's brilliant.
It really is. Yeah. And so, you know, they had, and he's like, Janet, he's like, we have no other
options right now. And I'm like, I'm glad I'm the no option person, but great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But for the first time ever, Caitlin, I was, I had this like kind of this moment, this lightball moment.
I was like, oh my gosh, for the first time in my career, they need me. Yeah. Or it was like me
trying to get in the door and hustle looking at me to make an introduction. And now it's like,
oh my God, they need me because they can't go anywhere. They're in isolation. They have no
equipment. It's all body weight. So we use that example and then, you know, kind of push forward
with that. Yeah, I guess the silver lining for me and all of this whole pandemic has been that.
Like, it's forced me to adapt my business. I will say the challenging part is then they open,
they open everything up again. And we think, oh, we're going back in person. And then close everything
back up. So I was like, you know what? Let's just go with like the common denominator here
is like we're not going anywhere. So let's just like stay online. And so yeah. And you're like,
like so everything is online now business and you've been vocal about how Instagram shouldn't be
just an Instagram real where everything looks perfect and that it's a platform to also be
authentic and address issues like depression and mental health, mental illness. So as we talk about
vulnerability and you know how it is for you to share some of your struggles on social media
your business is social media now you know like that's part of the empire that you've built so
to be authentic and vulnerable and share your struggles on social media does that come natural
for you or is it hard for you to share or balance that life of you know being a business but also
being a human being it's really hard for me and actually I admire you for this you're really good at
being your I will say this Caitlin like when I go on your
Instagram and like she's just like she just does it like she just turns on her camera and she just like
yeah what I mean and it comes across very naturally and authentically and I really appreciate that
about you thank you it is hard it is hard for me and I think um you know and I'm working to get past
it because I know that when I do post authentic stories and I am myself that's when I get the
most engagement and when I really connect with people so if if my whole goal for social media is to
connect with people that it's kind of like kind of unveiled itself that this is what I
need to do. And so I'm trying, you know, I'm kind of in that position right now. I'm trying to figure
out, you know, I just launched, you know, this new brand. And it is about this. It's about giving
people, you know, kind of that permission of being authentic, but what does that even mean, you know,
to you? So that word gets thrown out everywhere. What does it actually mean? And so I just launched
this brand called Roots and Wings. And it's all about like my parents teaching because my parents gave me
those roots, like those fundamental like morals and values. And then they really didn't
care what we did in our lives. We're just like, here you go. Yeah. Yeah. They're like,
we can only teach you so much and then you're on your own. Yeah. And so this whole roots and
wings idea is just like, you know, hoping to that I can share a story. I mean, I think it's
important to share people's stories because I know I've got my own story. But I really think like
somebody will hear this and be inspired to keep going. And so those are the stories that I want to
hear about and know about because I just know that's how you make true impact.
Sorry, tell you the name of it one more time.
Roots and what?
Roots and wings.
It's just, it's a Jana.
It's under my Jana web brand, but it's just kind of, you know, the whole essence or the,
you know, the funnel to what everything I'm going to do in this new chapter looks like
and where.
And where can people find that if they want to look it up?
Just on my website, like janaweb.ca.
Yeah.
Okay.
That sounds nice.
Yeah.
And then what of your, you did a TED talk like you said earlier.
I heard you say how social media is like an addiction and I find it I try and deny it like I try and be like I'm not addicted to my phone like I don't have an addiction problem but I really do like I cannot go poop on the toilet without thinking about like if I don't have my phone I'm like what am I going to do sit there for one minute and not look at my phone or scroll like I'm actually I try and say like I'm inspired on social media I follow accounts that inspire me I follow accounts that challenge me I find tickets.
talk to be educational and it can make me laugh like but it is a total addiction for me and and
you you know you're a mother and I'm sure because your parents have taught you these values that
you carry on and now you have a son who has social media how do you have these conversations
or how do you how do you manage what could be an addiction for yourself and for teaching your
son yeah I think it's you know and it goes actually when I did the TED talk I did a like a pilot project
with myself because for the reason that you just said, like, I found, like, I just could not get off
my phone. I was like, it was like a tap. It was like it was like a part of my body. And so I, you know,
did this thing where I would like leave it, you know, in a different room for like five, 10 minutes. And then
I started to get like anxiety. And I was like, oh my God, like what's happening? And so that was kind of
the first step. And then what I realized, this TED talk just to kind of preface this is was about the topic was
what do I want to be when I grow up. And so that was a pretty vague topic. And I was.
speaking to a bunch of, you know, at that time, kids that were between 22 and 25 years old.
And I was like, how am I going to make impact on these kids? And how can I tell them what to, you know, what they want to be when I don't really know the answer for that. And so I did this project with myself. And what I realized was like what social media was doing for me was taking me out of the present moment. It was, I was comparing myself to other people. I was doing all of these things that really in a moment kind of change your whole brain.
chemistry and make you think you do something different.
Yeah.
So, and then there's this whole thing about dopamine and, you know, all the things like
the love drug that the social media does for you.
So by reverse engineering all that, I came up with this thing about authenticity.
And I was like, well, how can these kids who are on their phones all day long
influenced by other people's ideas make any decisions for themselves?
They can't because they're not their ideas.
These are some else's ideas and somebody has his thoughts and dreams.
And so the whole TED Talk was like, put your phone on.
way, get in your body, and it goes back to what I teach. It's like, get in your body,
become aware, like, who are you? Like, what fuels you? And the only way you're going to know
that is by not attaching yourself to other people's ideals, thoughts, or dreams. And, yeah,
so in our home, I mean, we're all, we're all on our phones all of the time. I'm not painting
in the picture like we're, you know, right? But we try. Like, we have moments, like when we're up
at the cottage with the kids.
Ryan has two boys as well.
So there's like,
we're like this big blended family now.
So when we're up at the cottage,
it's like no,
no phones on the boat.
Like whenever we're doing things or activity,
and the boys are really good at it,
they're sick of it too.
They want to,
they keep life and feeling and,
you know,
they're actually better than we are,
to be honest.
Yeah.
I love that because at the end of the day,
there's still, you know,
young souls who are probably curious
and it's so hard for me because I'm like I totally understand that so much we get so much from our phone
and there are benefits to having it and even for kids and what they do and for entertainment.
But I love hearing when like kids are still kids and they like going out and doing stuff on the boat
or going and doing stuff outdoors and not needing a phone because I do think that's just like
something that's just in you as a child is curiosity.
and I love hearing about like still like because you're how old is is William now he's 14
14 and so it's cool that I well that's like the prime age where I feel like kids are either playing
video games or on their phones and you know I think it's it is up to the parents to take their kids
to a cottage to take them outside to do things with them where they can enjoy life and get
curious and not be attached to their phones and I you know I'm not a parent so I can't say how to do
that and I'm not sure how I will you know handle that when the time comes but I think it's cool
hearing those stories yeah no and I mean we yeah they're good like we were just in Mexico and
you know phones were in the rooms or on the on the on the suntan beds whatever and they're like
all in the beach and we're like digging and burying one of the boys and like making sense like you know
if you give it's all like what you present right yeah yeah that's amazing and I heard that your dad
has always said something to you that helps you get through tough times.
And I want to know if you would mind sharing that.
Yeah.
So he always says whenever I talk.
And actually my dad's getting out of surgery right now.
So I'm just like he had a great surgery today.
And he's been waiting for everything.
Today.
Yeah, just today.
Yeah.
He just texted me.
He's like, have a great podcast.
And he's like, he gets out of his surgery.
And he's like, wow.
Right.
So my dad's a farmer.
And, you know, we grew up in this beautiful, like, land.
and the sun rise and the sunset is just like what we, you know, live by.
And my dad, whenever I have any challenges or problems in my life, he's like, it's okay,
Jana.
The sun's going to come up tomorrow.
And it's so true because it does.
And a whole new day every single day.
And he's just like, life is full of problems and challenges.
And it doesn't matter because the sun just comes up and you just, you know, it's just going to come up again tomorrow.
So you just got to, like, face it.
I love a nice, simple thought like that with so much going on in the world and with all the stresses and just politics and everything that's going on, it's a simple thought like that can bring so much comfort that, you know, it's a, the sun will still come up tomorrow. I think that's really beautiful. I love that. Yeah. I'm glad your dad had a good surgery today and that that all went well. Our cats just so special. I just love a, you know,
I just love a dad, but my dad, it's his 30th AA meeting birthday tonight.
And so I have a Zoom that I get to be on with him.
Again, another reason where I'm like, you know, I wouldn't have been able to have
that experience with him.
I would have been on the road doing dancing with the stars.
And I usually try and make his AA birthdays.
And so tonight I'm like, I get to just click a link and be there for my dad and, you know,
hear other people's stories and feel inspired by them.
And I'm so glad your dad's doing well.
and I heard you had a confession for me for the end of this podcast.
Yeah, and like I was talking to Ryan about it over the weekend.
He's like, you can't say that.
He's like, you can't say that.
He's like, those are the best ones.
He's like all of, and I mean, you said the word poop already so I can say that again.
He's like, he's like, those all involved poop and pee.
And no, you're not saying that.
That's because there's so much shame around poop and pee.
And that's usually, you know, it's funny as so many of the confessions are about
that and it's but it just goes to show how we all have similar like embarrassing stories that have to
do with that and it's like it's just like it's so funny and I love hearing every every story yeah so
I'm not going to share that one this time oh no I'm going to share actually this is this is a funny
story and it happened over the pandemic and it brought light to you know my life and people around me
But I was online training, and I was training the Brooklyn Nets, which is obviously an NBA team.
And we kind of figured it out at this point that they were back in the facility.
So what would happen is they would put us in the big TV and the facility, right?
And so I'm training them.
I have my coach.
And all the players are like, you know, we do the session.
And then I do this like meditation at the end.
And I'm kind of like leaning in like I am right now because I'm like looking.
And then I'm kind of like getting into the meditation and I close my eyes.
and I will say I had just gotten a puppy at the time.
And so I closed my eyes and I kind of felt my dog around me,
but I was like trying to stay focused on the same.
And I finished the meditation and we do this thing where we rub our eyes and we open our eyes.
And I look and all of the guys are like laughing, like rolling on their mats like hysterically.
And I look in my big monitor because that was the big.
And my dog has his two paws up on my butt and he's like giving it to me from the end of
meditation. Wow, that just goes to show how in the meditation you were, like, really in his own.
Why was I leaned over like the whole thing? And I just thought he was like jumping on me, but I was like, whatever, I got to get, I'm focused, I'm in my thing.
Anyway, that is amazing. Does anybody have that on video? Because I would love to see that.
Yeah, you know what? I need to see if I actually have that because we record all of our Zoom. So I got to bring that.
Oh my gosh, please find that if you find yourself bored and maybe something to do.
Find that footage for me.
That's so funny.
Oh, my gosh.
That's a good one.
I feel like I've heard a lot of confessions on this podcast and that's up there.
That's a good one.
Good.
Yeah.
I'll save the other one for more wine.
Maybe if I'd had more wine, I might have said it.
We should.
Anytime.
I mean, I'm like rarely.
Oh, you know what?
I'm coming to Toronto at some point.
we should have wine and then do another podcast in person.
Okay.
Yeah, that's perfect.
Oh, that's so nice.
Guys, I really enjoyed talking to you today.
You're just like, you're a special soul.
And I feel like you've, like, even though we barely talked about like what yoga does for everybody, I'm like, I'm going to do yoga tomorrow morning.
Yeah, yeah.
Do some yoga.
I'll send you some videos.
Wait, people, can anyone do yoga?
Yeah, I could train you.
We'll do it online.
I'll train you.
Shut up.
Yeah, we'll do it with your Emma and Britt.
Oh, they would love that.
Yeah, let's set up a session.
I'll totally do that.
Dancers, I mean, you guys would love it.
Yeah.
Wait, that sounds like Kevin.
So I also have all my stuff on the FitPlan app kind of thing, but I will just like train you like in person.
You'll love it.
Wait, I'm so into this idea.
And so, okay, I was under the impression that maybe it was just for like professional athletes.
So anyone can do this and can people like go to your website and you have an app, like, tell us where we,
can find you with everything and you can go to joga world.com and you can find one of our coaches
and yeah we do online classes obviously right now so yeah that's amazing and what's your social
media so people can follow you yoga jana joga jana joga jana yeah i love that you can't change it
no why would you it's perfect mine's at katelylum bristow and it's that's that's just who you are you know
You're Doga Jana.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, that's amazing.
Well, thank you so much for sharing your story and for coming on the pod today and dealing
with my unfortunate lighting and circumstances over here.
But you're just such a delight.
And I definitely can't wait.
I'm so taking you up on this session.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Okay.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thanks for having me, guys.
Okay.
Talk to you soon.
Bye.
Bye.
I'm Caitlin Bristow.
I'll see you next Tuesday.
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