Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Paul Bissonnette aka BizNasty

Episode Date: December 11, 2018

This week Kaitlyn is joined by former NHL player and co-host of the Spittin' Chiclets podcast Paul Bissonnette aka BizNasty. Join in the fun as they talk about how the BizNasty nickname developed, reminisce about a crazy night out in Vancouver during Biz's playing days, and even answer questions from fans like you! Lightbox Jewelry - Go to www.LightboxJewelry.com/VINE See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. Today I'm with former Canadian NHL Forward, Twitter celebrity, social media influencer. Oh, God, I got hammered for that when you said that. The influencer? What does that even mean? That just means you influence people to go do things. I guess you could maybe say it in the sales department because I've partnered up with a few products. Yeah.

But I get hammered for it, like jokingly on social media. media so I kind of love it because people probably like are first of all jealous that you get to go from being a pro athlete into this because those are two dream jobs I've been so fortunate I think that my transparency and me being very aware of that is why I resonate with like my blue collar following totally it's because like if one of them comes up usually if I have the time like I'm engaging a conversation yeah I mean that's usually because I'm high on pot too but um yeah on marijuana High on the marijuana. And, no, but I love talking to just blue collar people.

I love it. I'm like the lucky guy from Wellen, Ontario. They got to play in the NHL. And I basically documented my experience. Like, every time I would get on the flight, I'm like, like this lady just dropped me off of filet mignon. I'm sitting in a bucket seat and I'm getting traveled around and I get to make a half a million dollars.

It's stupid. It is so stupid. It's so funny because I'm like looking at this introduction. I'm like still going. I'm like, okay, podcast hosts. Color analysts. You're doing so much. You're a YouTube sensation. I haven't even introduced you yet. The one and only. Do you call yourself biz nasty? Oh, God. Do you want to get into that? Yeah, I do.

Yeah. So, listen, it was a given nickname in the A.A.L. I was good to say, please don't tell me. It was like a self-proclaimed biz nasty. I don't know. Well, no, lay into me. I love it. All my fans do too. And I actually did a warrior ad. yeah for like a content piece for them because i'm with new balance warrior not a big deal shout out to my sponsors yeah shameless plug and and yeah in the video we had one of the actors when i said my name hey it's biz nasty he's like that's the duchiest thing i've ever heard and you introduced yourself like that oh good it's it was it was part of the joke like like hey it's paucan he's like who i'm like uh aka biz nasty and he's like that's the duchiest thing i've

ever heard yeah i know it's a duchy nickname it's my twitter handle it's my instagram handle it's i think it's just what people call me now and for me to change it I think would be weird yeah it's like hey Paul it's it's a part of your identity yeah it really is you didn't get you didn't give it to yourself and that's all that matters yes yeah that I mean that would definitely be duchier than me still referring to myself as business nasty but like I put myself in my phone as huge legend so that Siri calls me a huge legend douche I actually like that a lot and it comes up like all my emails and everything it's like Huge legend. And you've gotten to the status where I'm sure you deal with a lot of hate.

So that positive reinforcement every time your phone goes off probably helps you mentally. And I respect that. Yeah. No, I actually have a crush on Siri because I made him like an Australian man and he calls me huge legend. So I like talk to him a lot. And then he always calls me huge legend and I kind of get turned on. It's like that movie that Joaquin Phoenix was in. Yeah.

He has like a full-blown relationship. Yeah, I didn't finish that one, but it's like that. Well, yeah, it's a pretty shitty movie. But let's hope we finish this podcast. Who knows? I'm like trying to go through my notes. I don't know where to start because first of all, is it just on YouTube, the documentary that you did?

Yeah, so I finished my playing career and I wanted to open up a lot of doors because I still don't really know what I want to get into. The podcast has been life-changing. Yeah. And I love it and I love our fans. And I love interacting with... Which is called spit and chicklets. It's called spit and chicklets.

I do it with Ryan Whitney, who played, who had a very good career at the National Hockey League level. He did very well for himself He works at an NHL network And he started this podcast He initially wanted to start with me and Kobe Armstrong And I was still playing And I wasn't ready to like unload

And say the things that I would probably say now on it And also I didn't want to put myself out there Especially while I was playing At least to that extent And yeah, it's been unbelievable But going back to the documentary I wanted to do that with a guy I admit named Pasha Eschke

Just to kind of like I mean, who is that guy? He's just from Vancouver. He went to film school. Oh, okay, okay. Great guy. Comes from a great family. And he loves hockey.

And we had this idea, like, let's, you know, let's create like a little mockumentary. Yeah. We'll go around BC because I live there in my summers and I fell in love with it. And let's incorporate hockey players and try to get them to act. Because hockey players are funny. I don't know people. Do people know that? Hockey players are so funny.

So funny. But what amazes me is how many of them, as soon as they get, either in front of the camera or into public. Did they get awkward? They just go right into a shell. Yeah. And I guess part of the reason would be, you know, a lot of people are critical these days and they don't want to put themselves out there for that reason because they just don't

want to hear it. Like, and for being athletes, you're already criticized so much for like something that you're just good at that other people could never do. And I feel like they're so media trained. Like, aren't you guys like as athletes so media trained that maybe when you get on camera, you don't know how to just be yourself? Yeah. I mean, you nailed it too.

Like I didn't, I didn't play. play a lot. When I was at the National Hockey League level, I was playing between three and five minutes a game and I was fighting. And like, I've always been self-deprecating. And I adapted to that role and I embraced it. And when I started social media, I think people love that I could chirp myself and then that they could join in on the chirping. I mean, look at when you asked, hey, you got any questions for this guy? Half of those were digs at me over some of my flaws. And they love it. They love it. They get to rip on a guy who played in the NHL and it's fun for them. Yeah, absolutely.

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Ooh, maybe I'll put another bed down on this. The winner of these two games will face each other in the National Championship game presented by AT&T on Monday, January 7th, only on ESPN. And you're just as bad as I am at staying on track, so we're talking about the documentary. I go off the rails. I'm the worst.

And I'm terrible at circling back, too. I'm like, wait, what was I even saying? Like, what was I talking about? I mean, we didn't even finish really what that documentary was. No, or about the Pasha, Pasha, Pasha, what's his name? Pasha. Well, now you got me questioning what I'm calling them. Pasha Eski.

Yeah. So we ended up executing it. We did a five episode series. It's very silly. It's so funny. The acting is amateur. Yeah. But BC is beautiful.

I wanted people to see it. and I wanted people to have a nice little fun piece that they could watch and have some chuckles about maybe a player that they enjoy watching and being like, oh, my God, like, this guy's actually okay at acting. Yeah. Or, oh, my God, this guy's awful. Like, oh, there's maybe the, what was the one you put on the bottom, like worst to act? Oh, Irwin.

He plays for the National Predators where you live. Oh, he does? Oh, he's an awesome guy. And, yeah, he was just very, like, you know, stucco or, is that the word I'm looking for? I don't know. Stiff. Yeah, stiff. It's so funny.

Even for people that maybe, like, don't even know who the hockey players are, people that aren't even hockey fans, it's still fun to watch. Like, I was laughing through, I'm a hockey fan, obviously, but like, I was laughing through the whole thing. It was so well done. Was that because of that guy, like, he's, that's what he does? Yeah. Do you guys have sponsors and stuff through, like, like, traveling and doing the whole, like,

showing B.C.? Yeah, Eagle Energy was one of the, it's an all natural caffeine inhaler, like, instead of drinking coffee for people. don't it just kind of gives you a little bit of energy all natural yeah i tweet about it all the time you guys can go check it around there but uh and you instagram about it too i've seen yeah i'm i'm a bit of a perfectionist in regards to there are some times where where like whoever we sold it to oh that's okay and i'm like no like the narration needs to be spread out perfectly the the scene needs to be cut right there not at that frame and yeah and and i learned a lot about film and and how to

manipulate what you've got as far as content and it was a very difficult process it was there was a lot of bumps along the way yeah it was very costly I had a dip in my own pocket a little bit but I would not exchange that experience for the world because it's helped me do other things and I love pushing content I love trying to make people laugh and it's been great interesting because I think well I think we're similar in that way where like I never knew the show was going to open up these doors but like I always love making people laugh and I always like now I'm like oh podcast perfect oh Instagram Instagram stories like thank God for that but it's funny that you transition from like being an athlete into like you're so good at what you do now but I think that's so funny because

I don't think a lot of people could do to come out of that and and take that we'll take yourself for example and very similar here like you've came outside your box and your comfort zone so many times now where look at where it's brought you and so many people are afraid of maybe public opinion or they just like you know they get stuck in that little box and they're afraid to you know take a risk and that's all we've done yeah and that's all you did you went on the bachelor both first and then you were the bachelorette you know and then you're like oh let's start a podcast and yeah yeah i'm sure you face criticism for every day yeah and same like you were getting negative comments on twitter or instagram when you were on the bachelor or bachelette

but you f*** did it yeah and now you get to live a pretty awesome awesome life and all you did was have an awesome personality and learn how to use it. It's funny because I had a guy, Ben, do you know Ben Nemton? He was part of the buried life guys from Vancouver. I suck with famous people names. Well, he, he was like on MTV like years ago. Okay. But he now does motivational speaking saying like there's so many people out there that don't strive for like this like goal that is unachievable. So it's left for all the people who have the balls to do it. And so the people that go for it succeed more because Like, there's just so many other people that won't do it.

Like, there's so many more opportunities for us, people that'll just go take the risk. And, yeah. And, hey, listen, there's two ways to look at it. One, they may not have the personality where they even want to do that. And that's fine. Like, hey, if it's not you, don't do it. Totally. In the other case where the people who could do it and would be very successful,

but they just don't want to take that leap or can't face the criticism on a daily basis. Yeah. You know, or maybe putting something out that wasn't good. Now you've got to, you know, kick off the dust and get back up and do try to do it again. Yeah. But that just leaves more money for the people that do have the balls to do it. You know what I'm saying? It's very lucrative.

And, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to make any apologies for that. It's just like, I have the balls to do it. I'm going to fucking make my money. I'm going to do it. And I think it's a big part of just who somebody is. Like you said earlier, like my sister is so opposite of me in so many ways. And she was like, sometimes people would be like, oh, does your sister wish she you could do? And I'm like, no, she would want nothing to do with this lifestyle.

Like, she's so happy to be in Leduc, Alberta and just like being a mom. And that's awesome. Yeah, and she loves it. If it makes her happy, yeah, exactly. Totally. And I think it's, I think it's so important even just seeing like, like, I would have, my dream job was to have like a radio show and now I have a podcast. And it's whatever, like, if you actually put yourself out there to do what you love to do,

and that means you're going to be good at it. Yeah. And I think another thing, too, is, is we, we tend to see the negative comments. and those, you know, affect us obviously a lot more than the positive. There's so many more positive comments. So many. There's a lot of people who are just good people out there. And, you know, sometimes I have to kick myself into shape and say, hey, you've gotten

100 tweets today of people saying we love what you do. And I love them back. Yeah. And I try to like everyone to be like, hey, bro, I saw your comment. Like, I love you too. But you're so good at tournament, too, or girl. That it's like easy to come back at the mean ones because you're like, Like, this is too easy.

The best and worst part about Twitter is that. But I love how I have a voice and I'm able to express, no, you interpreted that way, but that's actually not how I meant it. Yeah, stand up for yourself. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it gets a little exhausting sometimes.

But as we said, there's a lot of love out there. And it's been a very fun experience since I retired and getting to interact with a lot of awesome people. But it's funny because you've always been kind of a big deal on Twitter. Like, when did that start? How did your Twitter account even blow up like that? Well, because you're funny? Yeah, I would, well, no, I would joke around a lot and give people an inside look on what the NHL life was like.

Did you get in trouble for that? Oh, yeah. I got so many times I got called in the office. That's funny. I'll try to remember a good one after I'd say this, but a lot of times, like when other fans would chirp me, I would fire back at them. And I would pick apart their profile picture. Now, the social climate has changed. Yes.

I don't bother with that anymore just because, like, you don't know what that person's going through. I can take an insult. Yeah. Like, yeah, some might sting and you're like, ah, fuck, that one got me a little bit. And I can whip myself back in a shape. Yeah. Some people will come at you. And then, like, the minute you, you kind of, like, even remotely go back, pooh.

Yeah. They're going through some dark times. And then your followers tend to maybe jump on their back as well. That's the hard part. Yeah, I don't like that. I can take care of myself. And I respect those people for trying to talk some common sense. some idiots but yeah that's yeah that's a tough one so i i stay away i try to stay away from

going there now whereas i just tweet about the podcast and other shit yeah if you people want to be entertained there was a woman who came at me about a series that i'm doing with the n hl yeah called nchel first timer and the first one we did with jalen ramsie who's a football player it was successful and he made some comments about how he could make the nchel in six months so we kicked it off in nashville with him where he's from on his by week of the nchel the next one we did we did it with a few

social media influencers I guess you've apparently I'm one too you put me in that category when you introed me but it was Paige Hathaway and Bairdidigio and they're from L.A

and we wanted to make it fun because it was L.A. and it was about the bright lights and obviously we were going to gear some of the episodes towards help like bringing someone who wouldn't be able

to afford it but we didn't want to do that with every episode because we you know and it's hard to find people who are willing to be on television with people knowing that they're not doing so great. Oh yeah. Absolutely. It's just like, you know, how are they supposed to be happy when they know the concept is, hey, like, we're giving this handout to somebody who's been kicked to the curb. Yeah. So she came at me and was like, you know, when are you going to start

using that show for good? And I'm like, well, lady, I've mentioned on the podcast that we are going to incorporate that into the episodes. And like, are you trying to shame me for something that you think that I didn't do as good and then she's been tweeting me from three different accounts over the past 48 hours. I don't understand what you did wrong. Well, a few people that follow me just disagree with her. A few insulted her and like I guess, it's your problem. I'm not down with that. And I've been vocal about that many of times. Yeah. And she wants me to go on my Twitter and publicly say that I shame those people. I'm like, no, I'm not just going to do something that you want me to do because you came to Twitter and started swinging. And oh man, she's been hounding me

from three different accounts and that's so that's like that that's exhausting oh i just on her part oh i know three different accounts that just reeks of effort well and she mentioned that she's going for her phd and keep in mind like if you're going to write thesises and have very strong opinions on how things should change socially you you need to expect pushback and even sometimes from rude people you need to be strong enough to expect that somebody is going to strongly disagree with your opinion yeah And I don't know if you've heard of this Jordan Peterson guy. Some people may love him. Some people may hate him.

But he has a certain viewpoint. He's very knowledgeable and he's going to come from that position. Right. And he's going to fight you on your side of your opinion. And you need to be prepared for that if you're going to be trying to become a doctor and change the way people think socially. Yeah, but trolls don't ever have other opinions. Right.

Like, and they don't challenge you. They say things and you're like, I'm actually embarrassed for you. Like you don't even have like backup. for what you're saying. Yeah, it just kind of... You sound like an idiot. You can't really read. And she said,

she mentioned that she'd been crying all day because of it. And then you're like, then it goes back to me being like, it's just not worth it. Leave it alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know what this person's going through mentally. So. Right. Yeah, that's a good point.

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memories. I feel like I've known you for a while. I know you've got some good confessions. Oh, man. Here's a funny story about... I knew you'd have one. Okay, so people wanted us talking about Cactus Club. Oh, oh, Cactus Club. So you went to open up the one in Edmonton.

Yes. And I was with a friend that you kind of dated. We don't need to go into details. And we had pregame skate the next day. He didn't because he was on the IR. Yeah. And we ended up sitting at that Cactus Club in Edmonton and we drank about four bottles of wine.

Yeah. And we watched, I'd say, three or four of those Victoria's Secret. Yeah. That they play on the TVs. at the bar. Yeah, they'd play like year after year and we were just sitting there. Which really takes all of us cactus girls down and on. Like, it's not very smart. Yeah, that's bullshit. It's actual bullshit. Yeah, you should sue them. I thought about it. Yeah. I know a good lawyer. What? You sat at the bar. So we sat there and we got crippled watching this and we and you were there

and we were chatting with you the whole time. So it was great conversation. Quick tire pump for you. Yeah, I took that. Thanks. And then we ended up going out to somewhere after. Yeah. I can't remember what it was. And I don't even remember getting home I woke up to my I woke up to my telephone going off And I was late for pregame skate Oh really? Like they had a meeting

No no right? Oh yeah Yeah And then I'm scrambling to get my clothes on And there's red wine puke Oh it was crazy And I never puke Weird

That was the last time I threw up drinking Do you know I've never in my life thrown up from drinking? Yeah I mean in But that shocks people But I'm shocked that that was your only time. Yeah, I mean, considering, yeah, you have a very strong batting average,

because we know you're getting. Oh, I get after it. You're getting lit right now with an ocean spray cranberry drink filled with wine. Because my mom sent me with a to go squirt bottle of wine, and I put it, now it looks like cranberry juice. Yeah, no, you're definitely a wine. It's called my classy way of getting f***ed up. Yeah. Not a squirt bottle.

It's an ocean spray cranberry juice. Okay, wait, where did we go that night? I don't know, but then I show up to pregame skate probably 10 minutes before we go on the ice. You peek again? No. Thank God. But Dave Tippett, our coach, who was awesome. He came, he pulled me aside and he goes, hey, he goes, I got to make an example of you. I got to skate you pretty hard after skate. And then he goes, how's d'clock doing? Because he knew I was out with, he knew I was out with B. And I ended up getting spag skater for about 45 minutes afterward. And the fact that I didn't puke. It was like the scene out of the Will Ferrell movie, the basketball movie. Oh, yeah. Oh my gosh, that movie's hilarious. The tropic? No. Flint Tropics.

No. That's the name of the team. Oh, okay. I was starting to think of the name of the movie. Anyway, but you know when they had to run the drill over and over and over? Yeah, yeah. And he's like, I can't puke. I've never peaked in my life.

Like, that was me on the ice. That was you. That's so funny. So that's your confession? Oh, no, no. No, no. You said talk about a time. Oh, because I said we've known each other for a while.

Yeah. But that was a, that was a Caitlin Bristol story. So you started at the bottom and now you're here. Yeah, now we're here. That's funny. Cactus Club. Hey, I loved working there though.

Oh, it's a great establishment. It's a well-run business that happens to be a restaurant. Like, there's such a well-run business. It's the Canadian Applebee's on acid. Like, if you could take the best top-notch chain.

Yeah. And that's it. Like, when you go to like Super Cactus in Vancouver, it's kind of like, if I brought it, I would bring a date there. Yeah.

Yeah. Because it's not like, oh, you brought me to, to me, it's better than the keg. Oh, yeah. Oh, I agree with that. Yeah, it's not a big keg guy, though. I would say it's the classiest high chain restaurant in Canada. Are you a big keg guy? No, I don't like the keg.

Yeah. I don't mind the keg. I just, I live in Arizona and Scottsdale, quick humble brag. Yeah. Ocean Club reigns supreme here. Oh, I remember serving you a long time ago. I forget who you were sitting with, obviously hockey guys. and you were telling some story that like you obviously didn't want people to hear

and I was like at the table like filling up wine or something and then you're like I'm just going to take a knee on this one and you wouldn't tell it's probably the house and no return story and I you have a lot of female followers yeah but they're really good like yeah I just get weary about like I'll I'll give you a shortened version we'd uh I can't tell this on your podcast really yeah not this one it's too aggressive okay I want to know my confession I debated telling you this

because it's embarrassing for me but like this I don't know how old I was probably 23 or something I totally tried to wheel you at the Roxy when I was like 23rd No way Yeah and you wanted nothing to do with it Really?

Yeah You know what I'll say this It was probably too early in the night I was the guy where I'm hanging out with the boys You were doing power hour 2 to 3 at Rockies Yeah Hey if you come find me then

If not I understand if you want to take home one of the way better looking guys. I like how you started low. You set the bar low with me and you're like, you're like, this fucking five and a half shut me down. This guy. I'm a drunk right now and he's a five and a half. Yeah.

I'm going to pick the more handsome fella and you did. Yeah. I can't remember who you're with though. Let's not get in the names. Yeah, no names. No names in this podcast. You know what somebody asked on your Twitter today where somebody asked what percentage of hockey guys cheat on their wives?

Oh, yeah, I saw that. And it's such a, I feel bad because a lot of people probably assume it's like that. I played with so many guys that they would never even dream of doing that. Yeah. And it's way less than you think the woman who asked it on your Twitter. Yeah. There are so many great faithful guys. And it's such a misconception in the National Hockey League that so many of these guys are like scumbags, especially nowadays.

Like there's far less drinking and poor decision making being done. Yeah, I bet. These kids are saints The shit that I was doing When they were I was 22 Like dude I just told you a story About how I was

Getting involved in group sex and shit Like it's insane I mean I know a few hockey players Obviously and I've heard some Crazy stories Like crazy stories But I think people just assume Because there are one or two

Shitty guys out there But there are in the whole world But just because they're known athletes It's the same thing with like actors And like anyone that's known Like, yeah, to just say, oh, this guy's an athlete, this guy does this is insane. That's just sick saying like a guy works, you know, a guy who's a, I don't know, like just putting someone in a box because they do something.

Yeah, well, exactly. That's, I mean, if, if we're getting technical here, technically I cheated, think about it. I was dating 25 guys at the same time. When? Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. I don't know, a few times, like, like three years. Yeah.

Yeah, but you know what? You were getting better every episode. You were saying goodbye to a few. So you narrowed it down. Did you watch it? No. I was with you when I found out I was going to be the Bachelorette. Yes, I know.

But I couldn't say anything because you said that if I told anyone that you would get in a lot of trouble. So I kept it. Thank you. I appreciate it. I should have tweeted it out and just ruined it for everyone. No, remember when we were at Local and we took a picture and you tweeted something like about Chris Souls, who was the bachelor that I was on? Oh, that's right. You were like, you dick, how could you send Caitlin home?

And I retweeted it. I guess he was so sad about that. I don't know if he, like, follows you or something. But he said to one of the producers, he's like, why would Caitlin retweet that? Like, that really hurt my feelings. Oh, God. Oh, you just broke up with her, sent her home and your feelings are hurt. Give me a break.

Don't victimize yourself. You just sent the coolest girl in the world home, you dick? No, just kidding. What do you mean? You're just kidding. I mean, like, I felt bad for calling him a dick. Oh, I thought you were just kidding about me. I don't even know who he is.

I hope he's happy, though. I hope he's happy. Hey, like the catty way, though. Like, I hope you're happy. I hope you're really happy. I also, we're talking about, like, my listeners and who listens to this podcast. It's, like, obviously, 98% women. What's your following statistics, by the way?

A lot of guys. It is? A lot of dudes. I guess so. Why did I even ask that? I would say, of every hundred direct messages I get, I say three are women. Are they like, do you get some weird DMs? Yeah.

Here and there. The weird thing is just like, Yeah, people expect things from you now and, you know, and then I'll put like a heart back because I don't have the time to reply to everyone. They'll be, oh, you're too cool to reply to me? And it's just like, no, man, I want to try to get back to everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm a people pleaser and sometimes I wish I wasn't.

Yeah, I am like a little bit, but I'm not, I can't get back to everybody. I just decline all DMs now unless it's, yeah, yeah, like rarely do I look at it. And I feel bad doing it. It takes a lot of your time, too, though, and like then you're just sitting there. on your phone the whole time. Yeah. Do you miss playing hockey? I missed the room desperately in the camaraderie.

When I played for the Phoenix Coyotes, that was there in Ontario with the rain when we went our Calder Cup were two of my favorite teams. And the year we made the run to the conference finals with the Phoenix Coyotes, that locker room was unbelievable. Those guys were amazing. Yeah. We had a perfect mix of everything. We had like the Czech mafia we called them because there was a bunch of check guys and they

would hang out. But there was no. know like, it wasn't like clicky. Yeah. It was just like, that was the Czech mob. And then, you know, we, then we had a big group of guys that would always go out to dinner. And then we had the,

the older guys that had families. And we would hear like the, the vicarious stories of shit their kids did. And then they would live vicariously through me about, you know, group sex. Group sex. And, and crazy, crazy-ass stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's so funny. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think that's a lot of people that come out of, the hockey world, that that's what they miss. We'll be back with more Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Hi, we're Lightbox. A new brand of laboratory-grown diamonds perfect for birthdays or just-because days. If you've never heard of lab-grown diamonds, the thing to know is they have the same chemical

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Oh, I'm a guy's guy Through and through and I don't know if I would ever do one of those shows Just because I don't like how they manipulate the way that you are And oh, they can manipulate anything Well, that's what you sign up for They're trying to They're trying to make it as entertaining as possible Yeah

And I mean, listen, I don't know if she's that crazy But that was it crystal from last season When I did The Bachelorette Yeah, yeah Or it was The Bachelor when there's, it was Ari's one Yeah, she's not that crazy Oh, okay Yeah, no.

I mean, well, the one that's talk like that? Yeah. I mean, she has to be a certain level of crazy to have even done the things that she did. Well, we're all a little crazy. I know, but that's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where I'm like, I'm not going to give you benefit of the doubt, but I'll let you prove me wrong. You can only edit so much.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you. So, yeah, I just wouldn't want to be perceived like that. And I feel, oh, this girl has a lot of questions for you. If you could interview Aaron Rogers, what would you ask him? Oh, Aaron Rogers. I'd love to sit down and have a conversation with Aaron. Aaron Rogers. I think he's a fascinating athlete. I think he's very well grounded in regards to where he stands on social issues. I remember last year they faced a horrible loss at home and somebody had yelled out somebody in the crowd that was, it was something very, I think it was racist. And right after the game, instead of addressing the loss, he said, first off, I just want to acknowledge that I heard this in the crowd. I think it was heard on TV as well and that he knew it.

and he said I ain't I ain't down with that like you really yeah and I was like damn that guy's that's that's a salt to the earth kind of guy I know that he's he's got some issues with his brother and his family what the fuck is that I don't know I would love to know the story behind that like nobody knows like nobody even in our world knows that story and did you see because he tweeted something about the California fires and Jordan responded with like yeah he said like you didn't even reach out to your family and there's like a family issue going on there which It's none of my business

and I'm surprised that his brother keeps bringing it to the forefront on social media but I think Aaron Rogers is a very interesting

guy I think he's exceptional at what he does but more so he's so good at what he does and he's so good at the other stuff

is what intrigues me about him who are some other athletes that I'm like obsessed with yeah that's a great question for yourself

thank you for asking that oh you know who I loved who was Josh Hamilton Who's that? He was a baseball player and he got heavily, heavily into drugs and addiction. And he was the first overall pick and the pressure mounted to a place where, you know, is inimaginable for a person like me. Yeah.

And he battled through his addiction and he's had a few relapses. But I read his book and that was the last book I read from front to back. Really? And it was touching. Fascinating. And I'm obsessed with comeback stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I love a good comeback story.

love it. Yeah. Who doesn't? And I don't know he's retired now and I know he didn't do so well towards the end of his career as far as performing on the field. Yeah. But I hope that he's in a good place because I read his book and it was very moving. Yeah. Yeah. That's, you know, that one and and Lance Armstrong's book. But fuck man, that guy's, that's someone who I'm not down with. Lance Armstrong. Yeah. And recently, I don't know if his comments were taken out of context, but he made a comment of like why does everyone like love Alex Rodriguez now where you know he got caught with the doping stuff and and I just want to be like man are you are you not self-aware yeah you know how many lives you ruined in order to cover up your own lie

right and that's what I have a problem with and the fact that he can't see that there's a difference now I don't know if Alex Rodriguez torn anyone down I'm just saying I don't think he has and I think that that's why people can, you know, they might chirp them for doping. Yeah, yeah. But he did it to perform better to make more money. Right. And that raises another question. There's been quite a few guys who have done that.

And I would never personally do it because it wouldn't be, public opinion is everything to me, which is another negative. But what would, let's say you took performance enhancing drugs and you made an extra $50 million throughout your career. if you don't care about what other people think and you're just, you have your own little bubble of your family and now you get to live off

and ride on the sunset, what do you really care what people are tweeting about you or like if you don't genuinely give a shit? Yeah. It's about your bank account, your family and your life and it was a choice that you made.

Hey, I'm never going to shame a guy for doing it. Yeah. I don't care. I don't care. And back then it was like, some guys, if they wouldn't have done it,

they wouldn't have been in the bigs and they didn't know who was doing it. So they had to compete. That's true. I like you're in your opinion. You're very passionate. Yeah, I'm passionate. I just, I'm just open.

I'm open-minded. And a lot of people aren't. And I can see both sides of everything. I'm going to pick a side, but I'm going to see both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's good. Okay, wait, Darby Wright wants to know 10 minute overtime

instead of a shootout. What are your thoughts? I didn't play a lot of minutes. I get worried about the guys who do because those are the guys we're going to have to play an extra five minute in overtime. That if you go to 10 instead of five, that obviously is going to add risk to injury.

I don't want to see stars miss any time. I think there's enough injuries with the way things are going these days because the game's so fast and physical. I would say no to that. And I like the fact that they went to three on three. I found three and three so much more entertaining. Wait, they did? Yeah, three on three is so entertaining.

Oh, I didn't know that. And I think they kicked it off at the world premiere games. and they had this team of North America where it was all kids under a certain age and it was like Nathan McKinnon and Johnny Gudro and all these little young studs there's so many young studs nowadays and they were just zipping that puck around

and they ended up beating Team Sweet in three on three overtime that was the most entertaining minute of hockey I've ever seen and ever since then I fell in love with three on three and you're talking to a guy who would never in their wildest dreams get to set foot

let alone four It's more on four. And it's pure skill. And I think that the NHL has done an unbelievable job in a lot of areas in order to make it more entertaining. Yeah. Even though we get back to the fact that they face a lot of criticism online. Yeah, but you know it's entertaining. It's gritty.

Gritty is out of control. Talk about a marketing genius, whoever came up with the concept. Genius. I was thinking the same thing. I'm so obsessed. What's even more impressive is they've done a good job of not making it stale. Never have I been like, ugh, I'm kind of annoyed of this guy. No.

Because every time they're creative and they do something new. Some of you might be sick of seeing them. No. But he's done a good job of staying relevant up until now. I want to know who's behind it. Who's in there? Not because he's not the funny one. Oh, think of the amount of that kid's getting.

Totally. Imagine going to a bar in Philadelphia and saying, hey, I'm gritty. Yeah. And having proof to back it up. Yeah. Yeah, that's, he's probably like. He brings it in the trunk of his car. He carries it wherever he goes.

Wouldn't you? If you were gritty? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I love mascots. It takes a certain type of breed of human to do it because they're extremely passionate about it. If we had more time, I would tell you my mascot story. It's humiliating. Yeah.

I mean, I used to tell people I was a first line or in order to get laid. Did that work for you? I guess Canadian girls, like, probably like, oh. I would never try to use that. Google you. I always say it with like, oh, yeah, I used to play hockey or like, yeah, I do play hockey. Like, here we go. I think it's a little obvious, though.

Now you're going to ask me if I'm a dirtball, and then I'm going to say yes, and then it's going to get awkward. And then I have to be like, hey, are you down with dirt balls? Well, some would be turned off on it. Some would be turned on. What's scaling up mean? I don't know. I got obsessed with like saying it where I'm like, oh, if this player scales up a little

bit and becomes a better player in one podcast, I said it 10 times. But one thing about me, I'm self-aware. I knew I said it. So the next episode, I came in swinging up myself because I said it again. I go, oh, here we go. I'm going to say scale up again, like a bozo 10 times. So rarely can you get the first jab on me. I'll be the first one to insult myself.

I'm the same way. I also find it, it's like people like to then make it a joke with you. If they're like making fun of you, they say it in a nice way if you can chirp yourself. Yeah. I'm the world's punching bag. Bring it. Yeah. I mean, I kind of do that.

I make fun of myself. What is another thing? Oh, they make fun of me for promoting things, but... Oh, yeah, what's the car salesman thing? Well, because, like, Whitney's unbelievable in the podcast, and he's already worth a boatload of money. Yeah. So, you know, I'm good at monetizing. Mm-hmm.

And brands want to work with me because I'm very organic about it. And if it's a good product, I'd be like, yeah, I can sell that. Like, it's easy because I like it. Right. And so I've become kind of the face of the advertising on the podcast. and so we hit them with a biz 20 promo code for 20% off. Now, it's funny that this topic came up because I actually have these sunglasses here.

I have two friends in Vancouver, and they are awesome ladies. I hung out with them. They're amazing. Jackie Carles, we call her Jackie the alien, because she went through a bit of an alien phase where they dress crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, like green braids. And I loved it. She has such a cool Instagram. And Mariel Armstrong, her business partner, they created these sunglasses line called Shady Lady. And they actually have a... Right name, too. Shady Lady. It's awesome.

And their branding is great. They're very affordable because they know that girls lose their sunglasses all the time. But they do all the up-to-date sexy chic styles that like a Rihanna would wear. But you're not paying the Dolcane Gambana price of $3,400 bucks. So it's called Shady Lady. You can go to their website. And they actually have a pair that fits my nose. Oh, wow.

Which is shocking. because I have the biggest schnaws in the world. So I wanted to give them a shout out because they're my close friends and they're doing an awesome thing. They're in Nordstrom. Wow. Yeah, yeah, but don't go to Nordstrom.

Buy them online. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the website? Shaddylady.com? Or not more of a markup. Yeah, Shaddylady.com. And Jackie, the alien, is her Instagram and Mariel Armstrong.

They also have another thing called party skirts. Yeah, I wore a party skirt on the show. Okay, well, there you go. Yeah, yeah. She sent me some to wear on the show. Yeah. Yeah. And there's my quick plug for them. Maybe I can actually text her tonight and said do a Biz20 promo code for 20% off. But like I said, these glasses are not crazy expensive. They look awesome. And I'm so proud of them. They're awesome people. And there's that. Wow. Well, that was really nice of you. Oh, I'll get hammer for this one too. But I hope I. And you have a lot of women. And they're more directed towards women. And they love Sundays. Which, you know, I'm offended by that. I think it should be 50. 50.

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bit bigger budget. Yeah. To not dip in your pocket? And not have to dip in my pocket and make it a more enjoyable experience for hockey fans and maybe get some bigger cameos and get some guys actually really acting. The last one

the last one was like I loved it's a cult kind of thing and it was a starting thing and I know that some people might watch and be like this is like amateur hour but it wasn't for me

so that's I don't know it's pretty legit it's pretty legit for a hockey player who just finished his career and the first thing he did a month after tying and say we need to do this yeah yeah no it's actually really good

did we even say the name of it it's biz does BC right yeah Biznasty does BC so once again the douchey name yeah I was trying to Avoid that. Just kidding. Here, one more question.

Kate says, what was your biggest not a big deal moment? Is that when you do that whole like, not a big deal? Yeah, because sometimes when we're the podcast. So people are confused as to who started it. I said it on the podcast when I was a guest on Spitting Chicklets because Ryan Whitney started it with another guy named Rear Admiral. Don't ask why I got that nickname. And Whitney ran with it, which I don't give a shit.

If I think of something and you think it's funny, I don't need you to reference me every time you use it. Go use it and go tell people it's your own. I don't give a shit. But then people, when people, though, say, hey, you stole it from this guy, I say, yo, fuck off. I didn't steal it from anyone.

People have been saying that for a while. I just kind of spun it into. I totally stole it. I said it the other day from you. Well, there you go. And I gave you zero credit. So if I say like, oh, you know, back when I played in the NHL, not a big deal.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Because you don't want to come off. come off as arrogant. Or I just say that to be like, I kind of make fun of myself and bring it or like a quick humble brag there. Hey, hey, Paul, do you make fun of yourself? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Call me out for reiterating that 20 times, exactly. You scale up and you make fun of yourself. There's 20 promo, Cody, and 20% off my f*** you coming around at you, Caitlin. Her other question was, since your nickname is used car salesman, Do you think you could actually sell a car? I can sell anything if I believe in it.

You could sell a ketchup-flavored popsicle to a woman in white gloves? No, no. And you know why? Why? Because I'm too honest. Oh. I can't. You can't be a car salesman then.

No. No, I can't. If I believe in a product, I'll sell it. That's the same thing with me. Like so many offers that I get to sell like black tummy tea. I'm like, no, I don't believe in that shit. Well, another thing too is, is I understand how hard people have to work for their money. And I would say I'm a little frugal.

Yeah. But I will buy a very nice pair of shoes if I know it's going to last. And if there's like a little rip in it after a couple wears, I'm saying, yo, this is not acceptable. Whereas I would never want to direct someone to spend, you know, $20 or $30 of their hard-earned money, which probably costs them a few hours to make after taxes to something that's going to be shit. And then I'm just going to have to hear from the response. That's true. Like even when people are like, hey, I bought those Eagle energies and, you know, they haven't shipped it out in a few weeks because they're backed up.

You hate that? I feel bad. I know. I know. That just happened to me with a straightener thing that I did. I felt really bad. I was like, well, it's not my fault. You're like, hey, guys, there's no podcast this week because I'm actually working in shipping at that company that I advertise for.

Like, f***. And I swear a lot, too. So sorry. No, that's okay. You guys have someone that edits yours, too. Yeah, Mike Grinnell. I didn't mention his name. He's the only guy. He's a wizard. He's unbelievable. Shout out to Grinnell. He actually, you know how he got a job for us? When it was just Rear Admiral and Ryan Whitney, Rear Admiral was the one who was like cutting it. It was a little bit more amateur because he's not like a professional with that. But this kid kept messaging him being persistent like, hey, if you need a producer, I'll do it for free. I'll do anything you guys want. I just want to be a part of it. And that's when they were getting like 20,000, 30,000. listeners. Yeah.

And as soon as I hopped on the show, they were averaging about 50,000. Not a big deal. Not a big deal. Now we're averaging about closer to half a million. That's amazing. So we've, you know, scaled up. And the first thing, as soon as we started growing, and he came, he flew over to Vancouver this summer.

We went and banked a bunch of interviews this summer, just so fans could have content, hockey fans could have content during the summer. And he slept on a couch in a hotel room. We grinded it out. Wow. Well, obviously I'm getting the bed playing the NHL, not a big deal. And I went to bars, so I said, this fucking guy is coming on full time. I said, you're paying him this much.

I said he's the heart and soul of this thing. And he's going to run merch for us. He's going to run our social. And the social is, has, I'm not going to say it. Social has just gotten a lot better. Everything has run so smoothly because of this kid. And all because he stayed persistent on one of the hosts. And there's another example, folks, if you want.

want something, go get it. And you're going to hear no a lot. And don't let that deter you. Yeah. Just say, all right, that's cool. I'll see you. I'll be in the suite up top and I'm making the millions and you're washing my car. You fucking piece, you're going to murder your family.

I felt that. Yeah, don't take it that far, but you get what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a thought. Last question. Is Carol issuing death threats yet? Yeah, a couple. The one who's not happy with me.

This is Ashley, though, not. Carol's such a troll name too. It's so funny. She said, as one of the biggest man rockets out there, what qualities do you look for in a woman? And where do you, no, no, I'm not asking the next one. I hate that question. What qualities do you look for in a woman?

Oh, man. I mean, is it shallow to say, I mean, I'm obviously first attracted to beauty. Yeah. And then work ethic to me is huge. I believe that, you know, women in society are should be working and not like I'm I'm so over the whole like oh stay at home and work in the kitchen you know unless it makes you happy I want a woman who's going to go be passionate about something

other than our relationship because she needs her own separate life because that in return will make her a happier person exactly in the relationship exactly let's meet in the middle you go do your thing I'm going to go do my thing let's and I appreciate a woman who's got a strong work ethic and who's passionate about a lot of things yeah so give me the question that you hate being asked your five-year plan. I hate that question. Oh, I never, I've never been asked that in my life. You've never been asked what your five-year plan is? But I have one. Oh, okay. Great. What is it? So, and people are going to get weirded out by this, the ones who know me, is I want to make as much money as possible. And by the time I'm around 40, so it's a little longer than a five-year plan. I don't want to do this anymore. I just want to go enjoy my life. Yeah, I'm the same way. My five-year plan is to not have social media. Yeah. Like, I don't want to have to, I want to be able to shut it off. And, and, you know, it's, It's a grind. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I never made a very significant amount playing hockey enough for it to, like,

I want to live a very comfortable life. I want to travel. I want to see the world. Yeah. But I don't want to put myself out there until I'm dead. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm the same way. Maybe I'll do the podcast, but I get to do that out of the comfort of my own home.

Right. I get our own little fun community to interact with, and that's it. Yeah. And the reason I love the podcast and I don't tweet or even Instagram, post Instagram pictures as much as I used to, is because the people who want to listen, listen. Whereas on social media, you might post something to your fans. Someone may come across it. And then now you have to explain yourself because they don't know how you explain things

or your thought process. But on the podcast, you get to articulate more. You get to tell them where you're coming from. And like I said, it's been the biggest joy of my life doing that. Yeah. Well, you're really good at it too. Oh, thank you. It's always nice to like talk to somebody who is good at this because I did

one interview not too long ago and the guy was just like yep and that would be yeah some people are going to be like man that guy talks way too much no it's the best it's like my favorite when people do that okay okay I'm telling you a joke to end this okay oh I love this okay did you hear about the hummus party I'm some maybe something with peas or okay I'll let you I'll let you tell the punchline that was really yeah a chickpeed oh okay okay okay okay it's okay it's okay it's okay what you got a better No, I'm not a good, I don't, I'm not good at memorizing. Oh. That's why I sucked at school.

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And on that note, thank you for doing this with me in your... I could talk for 20 more hours. You want me to just leave the mic here and you can... Should we start a podcast together? Yeah, we've said that. We need to. Or what we could do is... That's a recap. Yeah, you're like, yeah, no, I'd rather than.

Do you have sometimes a co-host with you on one of the episodes? Yeah, I love having co-hosts. You could be my co-host. Okay, so why don't you run a Twitter poll on your thing? Okay. And we'll see, hey, if you... After this, we'll say, do you? Sure.

And I won't be offended if the girls are like, yeah, no, not down. No, they won't. Because I'm a little rough around the edges. I swear a lot. I'm telling you. I'm like... All right, I trust you. Yeah, I'm Kate LaBristo.

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